simultaneously complains that somehow we're hurrying and ramming the bill through. once the c.b.o. score was recalculated, demonstrating phenomenal deficit reduction, the complaint became that the c.b.o. is playing number tricks. of course, the minority trusts c.b.o. when the numbers work for them. the minority's plan is to allow insurance premiums to rise unregulated by government intervention. let a family of four's premiums double every decade and end medicare as we know it. if the health insurance reform debate want so serious these arguments would be laughable. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. mr. ryan: i'd like to yield two minutes to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. garrett. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. . mr. garrett: i rise in opposition because it violates

the u.s. constitution and will be found unconstitutional once it gets through the courts. while congress is given the power under the constitution to regulate interstate activity, never before were we required to purchase a product government-approved as a price of u.s. citizenship. this moves beyond the economic activity into the realm of regulating inactivity now. if we allow the congress has the authority under the constitution, then there is no limit whatsoever of washington's ability to micromanage our lives. in the future, if congress feels our car industry needs a boost, they can require us all to purchase a car from gm. that is not what our founding fathers had in mind. 37 states have filed legislation to challenge this bill. two states have passed laws threatening laws if this bill passes tonight. one state lawmaker has pointed out that's 2/3 of the states of this great country, enough states to change the

constitution. in addition, there is another reason, it puts us hopelessly in debt. democrats assert their bill would reduce the deficit in the next 10 years. utter nonsense. as the ranking member as -- has repeatedly pointed there is double-digit counting. and your own actuary. what do they say? the bill is, quote, unrealistic, furthermore, it would jeopardize care for senior citizens. so then, what can we count on after this massive program passes and we have $2.5 trillion in additional spending at an 8% growth rate? think about it. we can't even pay our own best bets today. please, don't add another unconstitutional economic burden to this and future generations. vote down this bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the

balance of his time. the gentleman from california. mr. miller: i yield for the purposes of unanimous consent request, the gentleman from texas. >> i ask unanimous consent to place a statement on the record in strong port of h.r. 3590 and h.r. 4872. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. miller: the gentleman from missouri. mr. carnahan: i ask unanimous consent to place remarks in the record in support of this important health care package. mr. miller: i yield to mr. tonko. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. tonko: we need to fix our nation's broken health care system. we deliver on that promise with a vote as historic. i will cast my vote in favor of putting the controls back into the hands of american families and small businesses and their doctors. no longer will insurance companies be able to hold people hostage by dropping and denying

coverage. small bitses will no longer see their premiums skyrocket and will not have to make the decision to stop offering health insurance to their employees because the costs have climbed too high. indeed, this bill is about freedom. every american will now have the freedom from control of insurance companies and their record profits and will have the freedom to access the care they need when they need it. our seniors will have the freedom to enjoy medicare for years to come and have the freedom from worrying about the costs of their prescription zrugs drugs. the bottom line is whether the people in the capital region of new york will be better off and my answer is yes, absolutely, yes. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from wisconsin. mr. ryan: -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. mr. miller: i yield for the purpose of unanimous consent request. ms. jackson lee: i ask unanimous consent to affirmatively support this bill for all of america. i ask unanimous consent

the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. mr. miller: i ask unanimous consent to inrevise and extend my remarks. i rise in support of this truly historic and great legislation that addresses two of america's greatest troubles. the costs and high obstacles to obtaining high quality health care and quality college education. our nation has suffered from long-standing failures to make college accessible to all american people. americans have waited a long time for health insurance reform, nearly 100 years. today congress and president obama will deliver on a central promise. because of this legislation for the first time in america's history, never again will americans have to worry about losing their health insurance if they change or lose their jobs. insurance companies will not be able to jack up coverage or deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions and not drop peoples' coverage when they get sick or need it the most.

with those with insurance today and those without it, we are pairing this historic health reforms with another opportunity, the chance to make the single largest investment in college affordability ever with no cost to the taxpayers. $61 billion that for decades as wasteful subsidies have gone to the banks and student lenders and recycle that money on behalf of students and families who are trying to pay for education to make that education more affordable and bay down the deficit of this country. we now face a simple choice. we can side with america's families and make health insurance and college more affordable and accessible while creating millions of jobs and reducing the deficit or side with the insurance companies and the banks. it's a very simple choice. one is to stand with the families and the students of this country to stand with our future, to modernize our education system, to make it more affordable and modernize and make more affordable our

health care system. i suggest all of my colleagues should stand with the american families of this country. and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from south carolina, mr. spratt, is recognized for 15 minutes as the designee of the majority leader. mr. spratt: 15 minutes is available on this time -- on this side? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized will be recognized. mr. spratt: the other side has accumulated quite a bit of time. mr. ryan: i'm ready to yield time to one of my speakers now. at this time, i would like to yield two minutes to the gentlelady from wyoming, ms.

loom is. loom loom the world is begging -- mrs. lummis: the world is begging the united states to get its house in order. americans are begging for jobs, careers and stability. this congress responds by hiring 17,000 people at the i.r.s. to enforce on americans government-approved health insurance. small business entrepreneurs beg congress to empower them to create jobs. congress responds with 20 new taxes in this health care bill, amounting to half a trillion dollars. our military families beg us to leave tricare alone. this bill transfers tricare out of the department of defense. americans are fed up with government takeovers of business, like the auto industry that closed dealerships and threw americans out of work. this health care bill includes a government takeover of the student loan business, throwing

31,000 more americans out of work. we republicans implore the majority for a bipartisan health care reform bill. the majority party responded with special deals cut behind closed doors to garner votes for its most reluctant members. america deserves better than this. america is better than this. let's listen to america. kill this bill. start over with health care we can afford. create jobs. and save our economy. mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back her time. the gentleman from wisconsin. mr. ryan: mr. speaker, at this time i would like to yield myself the remainder of budget committee's time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. ryan: we know the problems of its cost and we know it doesn't reduce the deficit and premiums will go up. the c.b.o. has given us this information and the bill is chock full of gimmicks and mandates. i'm not going to get into all

that again, but i ask, why has this decision become so personal to our constituents? why are so many people swarming the capitol today? why have we received 100,000 calls an hour from around the country? it's because health care affects every one of us, and yet here wer debating whether the government should have a bigger role in making those personal decisions. so make no mistake about it. we are not just here to pass a health care bill. we are being asked to make a choice about the future path of this country. mr. speaker, the speakers to my left left are correct, this is history. this is a major turning point. this is not a debate about prices, coverage or choosing doctors. this is ultimately about what kind of country we are going to be in the 21st century.

america is not just a nationality. it's not just a massive land from hawaii to maine from wisconsin to florida. america is an idea. it's the most pro-human idea ever designed by mankind. our founders got it right when they wrote in the declaration of independence that our rights come from nation and nature's god, not from government. should we now subscribe to an ideology where government creates rights and solely responsible for delivering these artificial rights and then rations these rights? do we believe that the goal of government is to promote equal opportunity for all americans to make the most of their lives or do we now believe that government's role is to equalize the results of people's lives? the philosophy advanced on this

floor by this majority today is some arrogant, it's condescending and it tramples upon the principles that have made america so exceptional. my friends, we are fast approaching a tipping point where more americans depend upon the federal government than upon themselves for their livelihood, a point where we, the american people, trade in our commitment and our concern for our individual liberties in exchange for government benefits and dependencies. more to the point, madam speaker, we have seen this movie before and we know how it ends. the european social welfare state promoted by this legislation is not sustainable. this is not who we are and it is not who we should become. as we march towards this tipping point of dependency, we are also accelerating towards a debt

crisis, as a result of politicians of the past making proposal mythses we simply cannot afford to keep. deja vu all over again. it is unconscionable what we are leaving the next generation. this moment may mark a temporary conclusion of the health care debate, but its place in history has not yet been decided. if this passes, the quest to reclaim the american idea is not over. the fight to reapply our founding principles is not finished. it is just a steeper hill to climb, and it is a climb that we will make. on this issue, more than any other issue we have ever seen here, the american people are engaged, from our town hall meetings to scott brown's victory in massachusetts, you have made your voices heard and some of us are listening to you.

my colleagues, let's bring down this bill and bring back the idea that made this country great. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. does the gentleman from south carolina wish to yield any time? mr. spratt: could i ask again, we are trying to even out the time. and we had a 20 to 15-minute difference between us. after mr. ryan spoke, could you tell us what the differential is. the speaker pro tempore: mr. camp will have 20 minutes. the gentleman from sourget carolina will control 15 minutes. mr. spratt: would you like to use additional time? mr. ryan: my time has expired. it's the the gentleman from

south carolina's time. mr. spratt: i recognize mr. baca for a unanimous consent request. mr. baca: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute in strong support of this legislation. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. spratt: mr. israel -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman may extend his remarks. mr. spratt: i ask unanimous consent request to recognize mr. israel from new york to make a unanimous consent statement. mr. israel: i ask unanimous consent to place remarks in the record and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. spratt: i yield to the gentlelady from ohio for a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. >> i ask to insert supporting remarks into the record.

the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. spratt: i yield two minutes to myself. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr.ñ mr. spratt: we stipulated that reform had to be deficit neutral. we can say the house, the senate and the president have abide i by this c.b.o. found that the 10-year cost of all the bills before us amount to $78 billion. but the bills also include reductions, savings, and new revenues which include $931 billion. with the $931 netted against the $788 billion, the result is a net savings, which reduces budget deficits over the next 10 years by over $143 billion. that's c.b.o.'s siment of the first three years under this

reform. what about the next 10 years? c.b.o. estimates that these two bills together will save about .5% of g.d.p. over the second 10 years that may sound minimal but in that period of time, g.d.p. cumulatively is $2.7 trillion. 1.5% of that easily equals more than $1.7 trillion. this is what c.b.o. estimates as to the effect of these on the deficit. a reduction of $143 billion over the next 10 years. and a reduction of $1.2 trillion over the next 10 years. we've kept it deficit neutral, that's why it's important to vote for the bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves his time. the gentleman from michigan, mr. camp, is recognized for 20

minutes as the designee of the minority leader. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time, i yield 3 1/2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from indiana, our conference chairman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 3 1/2 minutes. >> i request unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. pen: this is truly a historic moment. some say we're making history, i say we're breaking history. we're breaking with our finest traditions, limited government, personal responsibility, and the consent of the governed. the first principle of public service in a free society is humility. the arrogance we witnessed in this institution is breathtaking. only in washington, d.c. could

you say you're going to spend $1 trillion and save the taxpayers money. only in washington, d.c. would you exchange the pro-life protections enshrined in the law for 30 years for a piece of paper signed by the most pro-abortion president in american history. despite overwhelming public opposition today this administration and this congress is poised to ignore the majority of the american people. let me say, madam speaker, this is not the president's house. this is not the democrats' house. this is the people's house and the american people don't want a government takeover of health care. i know they don't like us to call it that, but when you mandate every american have government-approved insurance whether they want it or need it or not, when you create government-run plan paid for with job-killing tax increases,

when you provide government funding for abortion, that's a government takeover of health care and the american people know it. american people want to face challenges in health care with more freedom, not more government. this really is about freedom. the more i think about this debate, the more i think about what ronald reagan said in 1964. he said then and now, it's about whether we abandon the american revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far distant capital can plan our lives better than we can plan them ourselves. you know, today we gathered in the old house chamber for a time of worship and prayer. members of congress have been doing that for 200 years. it's a chamber filled with statues of great americans, sam houston, lou wallace, william jennings bryant, soldiers, heroes of times past. i thought of the verse that

says we're surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses. standing here tonight, i believe we are as well. and not just those looking in tonight from here and around the country, but by those that have gone before. men and women who did freedom's work in their time. who persevered. who made this the greatest nation on earth, possible. now it's our turn. we can reform health care without putting our country on a pathway toward socialized medicine. we can reform health care by giving the american people more choices, not more government. so i say to my democratic colleagues, stand with those who have gone before, and made the hard choices to defend freedom in their time. stand with us. stand for freedom. and the american people will stand with you.

the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back his time. the gentleman from south carolina. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. spratt: i first recognize for unanimous consent ms. fudge of ohio. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. fudge: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks in support of this health care legislation. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. spratt: once again, can you tell me if the times are equal, more or less. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from south carolina has 13 1/2 minutes. the gentleman from michigan has 16 1/2 hins. -- 16 1/2 minutes. does the gentleman reserve? the gentleman from michigan. >> thank you, mr. speaker, at this time i yield two minutes to the gentleman from california. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. >> thank you, mr. speaker.

this is the people's house. we are sent here to represent the people throughout america. some are actually in the gallery. some have been marching around this building. some are sitting at home watching on tv. or they're in their car driving back from church and many have been calling this congress. they've been asking one thing. why does washington refuse to listen? they see what many on this side of the aisle see the arrogance of washington. we're here to represent our constituents, which is why we are asking, why are we voting on a health care bill today that empowers government instead of the people? survey after survey demonstrates the great unpopularity of today's bill, not only the substance of it, but the trickery, the deals, and the shortcuts that led us to where we are today. but this bill is being pushed through because the majority in this congress refused to listen to the people. the speaker has even said she

believes we have to pass this bill so people can find out what's in it. the logic here is washington knows better than the people. all this at a time when washington is borrowing 43 cents out of every dollar it spends. adding to our national debt, mortgaging our children's future, and this $2.4 trillion bill will steal even more money from our children's future at a time when this administration and congress are poised to run up a debt more than any administration combined. it doesn't have to be this way. we could have easily found a positive bipartisan agreement on common sense health care reform that reduces the cost, increases competition and increased access to all raising the debt. today is a legacy vote for members of this people's house and i urge my colleagues to start over and craft a bill to solve the problem. the speaker pro tempore: the

gentleman yields back his time. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. spratt: mr. chairman, i first yield to the gentleman from north carolina, mr. watt, for a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. watt: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks in support of the 32 million americans with will get insurance thunder bill. the speaker pro tempore: -- under this bill. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. spratt: i now yield to my colleague from south carolina, the majority whip, mr. clyburn. the speaker pro tempore: before the gentleman is recognized, under clause 8 of rule 16 -- excuse me, 17, members may not refer to the occupants of the gallery. mr. spratt: three minutes. mr. clyburn: mr. speaker, we have come to a defining moment in our nation's history. tonight i'm thinking about the woman who called into a talk radio program i appeared on

last august. she called in to take issue with the gentleman who had just called in earlier to say that he did not support our efforts to reform the health care system because he liked the insurance he had. the caller share herd experiences of having been dropped from coverage by an insurance company she thought she liked. just as she started her second treatment for breast cancer. she said to the gentleman, maybe he'd liked the insurance he had because he had never tried to use it. with these reforms, dropping people from coverage when they are diagnosed with catastrophic illnesses would no longer be allowed and denying insurance to children with diabetes and other pre-existing conditions will end immediately. these reforms will allow children to remain on their

parents' insurance policies until their 26th birthday. this bill will immediately begin closing the d doughnut hole for prescription medications for seniors. and eliminate burdensome co-pays or deductibles for their preventive care. despite deafening protests from the other side, the nonpartisan congressional budget office said the reforms included in this bill will reduce our deficit by $143 billion in the first 10 years and $1.2 trillion in the second 10 years. this bill will also create jobs, 400,000 good-paying jobs, reliable jobs, for every year and for small businesses. small businesses will get a tax break on their health care premiums with thail -- that will free up money for them to hire 0,000 more employees.

mr. speaker, we have debated this issue for several generations. the time has come to act. this is the civil rights act of the 21st century. tonight, we will take a significant step to move our country forward. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back his time. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: at this time, for just the purposes of a unanimous consent request, i yield to the gentleman from pennsylvania. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognize. >> i seek unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks in opposition to this bill. mr. camp: and i yield two minutes to mrs. mcmorris rodgers. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. mrs. mcmorris rodgers: i know some of my colleagues are still undecided and i urge you to

vote no. this is the wrong bill at the wrong time. at a time when 15 million americans are out of work, it is the wrong time to hit small businesses with more taxes and more requirements. at a time when premiums are surging for working families, it's the wrong time to pass a bill that everyone acknowledges is actually going to increase premiums. at a time that we have a $3.8 trillion budget, 40% of it is deficit spending, 40% of it is on the credit card. it is the wrong time to pass the new, massive government spending program. at a time when americans are losing trust in congress, it is the wrong time to strike backroom deals and pass a bill over the of the people. everybody in this body acknowledges the need for real health care reform. but this health care reform will make things worse not better for the people we serve. we should not let the hunger to do something, anything, trick us into passing a bill that will cripple