that universities are following in the middle east. it is going to be good for our foreign policy, but it is only because they are rich. we really need to do this where people are not rich. i think he should really look that. . .

>> it has been interesting. we have had a lot of european governments do the equivalent, there. again, the awareness of the program is not that broad. i think that over the next year, we will go to the u.k. and other countries and talk about that story. their generosity is important as well. global health is more visible today than it was 10 years ago, but not as visible as it needs to be so that people feel great that this budget item continues to grow at time when not much will be growing. >> i think that what bill and melinda have done is great.

i think that in order to build support for this, if we could humanize it, it would make a big difference. if you come to my office in new york, you will see a picture of a little girl whose mother and father are both hiv-positive and they became friends of mine. the child is healthy. you can see the picture of a beautiful girl that was so weak that she could not hold her head up at her school desk. she was the first person to get the aids medicine and we became friends and she has asked me to send her to law school. one of our remote clinics in rwanda, there was a man with a boy and girl living in a mud hut. the older sister was not hiv- positive and the brother was.

he miraculously lived until he got our medicine and now he has a third grade education at age 15 and he said that if he finishes high school, could he go to medical school so that he could keep other kids from getting sick. i think that if you can make this come alive through stories, we can get all the support we can handle. >> that was my next question. given the extraordinary accomplishments and the things that you have talking about -- that you have talked about, it is disturbing that we argued the way that we are. is there something more of the should be doing we argued that the way that we are. -- that we are viewed the way we are.

is there something more we should be doing? >> it is interesting. governments are not that good at telling their success stories. nobody knows if you should allocate talent for that or not. when things do go well, you've decide how to get that story out there. coming from a corporate environment, you think of the week it announced this. it is a feedback loop, where you get credit for the things that you do well and that helps you to pick from the right things. here, we have this phenomenal success story that everyone in the community is amazed. they were thrilled with the mall

area initiative. getting this done quickly with all of the complexities is very hard. these two w o surprised me in both cases -- these two surprised me in both cases. i am certainly a fan of usaid. there was a lot of great work of our foundation. i think that you have to do a better job of telling the story and i think that you will have to rely on people like ourselves to get that story out. in some ways, they have more credibility. we could take a five minute video and tell the story. even though we have about 50,000 people to look at living proof,

i went back to the foundation and said that i wanted 500,000 and then i'll ask for 5 million. we are not quite as adept in this environment. it should be so wonderful. you should be able to go right to that. the opaque miss bausch the opaqueness -- the opaqueness was authorized and never appropriated and now you want credit. it is really very hard for people who do not follow these things. what is the percentage of increase? there are five ways that you can look at that. >> it is hard for people to do follow-up. >>-- all its -- follow its.

gary worked with us in china where we were invited by the government to go out and reach these people in rural areas. this goes right to the point that you were making crude i had a fascinating experience. the chinese asked me to go out to these rural areas and go on television. they said that they know that they're just a communist country. i say this because this idea of selling it is a problem, everywhere. you do not want to be self- serving. most of the people that do this work do not care how much credit to get. they just want to save lives. but as a result, we are not very good at. -- good at.

-- good at it. the message you want to send to the rest of the world is that there is no way that you can agree with everything that we do. within our country, not all of us agree with what we do. but you should know everything that we do. you should view us through the lens of everything that we do and what we stand for. where we are wrong and where we are right. i think that if you do it like that, did you do not come across as self-serving. you're not trying to put a shine on people. you just tell people that they need to know. it is terrible that all this good stuff has been done that nobody knows about. >> mr. president and mr. gates, you made some important comments about climate change. there is a growing body of

literature and scientific evidence about the impact of climate change on human health. it has a direct impact on this global initiative. is that access to water or food security, can you share any observations that you have made or conclusions that you have come to regarding this interconnection and even anything that you have observed? >> i think that there is good news that if you want to help africa or any poor country mitigate the effects of climate change, the kinds of things that you need to do are exactly the things you would want to do otherwise. you want better seed that is more productive. you want better markets.

in another occasion, i think there are some important things that the administration is trying to push forward. so, more investment, there. if we can get energy that is cheaper and does not emit co2, that is a huge challenge. the benefits of that would be very dramatic. it would be far more dramatic for the poorest. the richest can afford energy to get more expensive, but the poor cannot. that is why i love the idea of increased r&d, particularly on technologies that, while meeting the new constraints, have a chance to actually be cheaper than the ways that we get energy

today. on another occasion, i am sure i will be back here a labyrinth and -- be back here elaborating more. >> i am reluctant to talk about this because if you get into the idea that everything relates to everything else, you muddy the water. if i could just give you a couple of examples, number one, you mentioned places where the climate is getting hotter substantially and where water tends to be concentrated more in severe weather events, this will cause water shortages and could lead to standing water which bears water bearing illnesses. there is no question that malaria it is occurring at

higher and higher altitudes -- malaria is occurring at higher and higher altitude because mosquito's are going places they did not feel comfortable before. in the food area, this is important because most -- australia was the first place to be hit hard. you can see that their capacity to grow livestock and raise crops has been substantially alter current ironically, the places that have been identified by those people that study this are places that already cannot take care of themselves and two are afghanistan in haiti. in terms of energy in, i think that small-scale clean energy is

really important. it the best of cooper nor i work with in haiti races fish. more than half the fish on earth were raised instead of, naturally. he does a huge operation with a battery that stores excess over power. he has a refrigeration unit. i think that the whole clean energy thank and the climate change -- clean energy thing is both positive and negative. >> i appreciate that very much. mr. president, mr. gates, we are very appreciative. i will turn to my colleagues in a moment and see if they have any comments.

20 million-9 million is a reduction of proportion. these are extraordinary efforts of those of you have made. that both of you have made. together, i think you have created a unique team and have had a unique impact which has served the country and humanity in extraordinary ways. i am reminded that america is great because americans are good and he was referring to the natural charity that took place in america that help people take care of each other and how we reached out and built communities. he found it quite extraordinary. i think, in the best of ways,

the 2 w 0 -- be two of you are representing us in an extraordinary way. words do not adequately describe it. we thank you. it is really an extraordinary story. do any of my colleagues have anything else? >> if not, we are grateful to you. it did you very much we stand adjourned. -- thank you very much. we stand adjourned.

>> coming up next on c-span, president old, speaking in north carolina about the economy and

health care. following that, a look at the potential impact of the new health care law. then, another chance to see former president clinton and bill gates. >> this week, on america and the courts, a moot court on whether non u.s. citizens could be denied a life-saving vaccine. "america and the courts," tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> the minute of that the wall street firms were in the business of harvesting middle class and lower middle class americans for their home equity value, there was a natural risk

of abuse. >> sunday, michael lewis on the sub prime mortgage crisis. his latest is "the big short." michael lewis, at 8:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. >> this weekend, on c-span2's " book tv," rebecca skloot. his book is "super power allusions." then, nell irvin painter. on the entire schedule at book tv.org. but president old, told workers

at a manufacturing plant that the economy was beginning to turn the corner. the labor department shows that employers added 152,000 jobs. unemployment remains at 9.7%. the president spoke at a lithium ion battery parts manufacturer. >> mr. president, we're honored by your visit. on behalf of our company, we want to thank you for selecting our site to post your town hall meeting today. we are a global leader in technology and we are particularly proud of what we have accomplished. as a pioneer in leader in the development of high performance separators, we are one of the largest global suppliers in the lithium battery separator industry. we're the only supplier that

develop products here in the united states. we established operations in charlotte with the emergence of the industry about 45 years ago. today, the charlotte region remains a important part of our operations. we received a matching grant from the department of energy last year. the expansion includes this facility and another facility in concord, north carolina. both are aimed at enhancing our position as a market leader. when completed, this will more than double or global capacity for lithium battery separators. it is a very exciting time for our company. the opportunities we have in the marketplace are real and not would like to think our people .

[applause] but they keep their head on that note, i am very pleased to introduce to you the president of united states, brought about. -- the president of united states barack obama. [applause] [applause]

>> thank you, guys. hello, everybody. hello. good to see you. everybody, please, have a seat. thank you so much for the warm welcome. to bob, thank you for the terrific introduction. i want to thank brian morehead for the great war -- for the great tour. we have the governor that is to win a best -- a great job on the behalf of all the people of north carolina. please give her a round of applause. [applause] >> i think it is important to note that the state of north carolina has provided enormous support for expansion here at

celgard as well. it is the combination of both federal and state that makes a big difference. the lieutenant governor is here. please stand up. [applause] >> the hot shot young up-and- coming mayor of charlotte is in the house, anthony fox. [applause] >> some outstanding members of congress. [applause] >> even though his from across the border, we love him. congressman john spratt from south carolina. it is good to be here at celgard. it is good to be back in north carolina. it is good to be back. we just concluded our tort or we saw some of the workings of

this facility where you are many-and components for state of the art batteries. you are building separators to make sure the diametrically opposed forces could work successfully together. i could not help but think that we could use your help in congress. [laughter] [applause] >> we could get one of those tried-part films and put it between the democrats and republicans. it would improve conductivity. but i did that right? ok. the truth is is have been a very tough two years for north carolina and have been a tough two years for the united states of america. we have been through the worst

period of economic turmoil since the great depression. keep in mind, when i first took the oath of office, we were already moving towards what some thought was a great depression. we're losing about 700,000, 800,000 jobs per month. the economy was contracting at a pace that we have not seen in generations, about a 6% contraction in the first quarter when i took office. i have often had to report bad news during the course of this year, as the recession wreaked havoc on people's lives. today, is an encouraging day. we learned that the economy actually produced a substantial number of jobs instead of losing a substantial number of jobs. [applause] >> we are beginning to toward

the corner. [applause] >> this month more americans look up, got dressed and had to work in an office, factory or storefront. more folks are feeling a sense of pride and satisfaction that comes with a hard-earned and well-deserved paycheck at the end of a long week of work. just one week we one year ago, we were losing an average of seven and a thousand jobs a month. the measures we took, even though there were sometimes unpopular, have broken this slide and helping us to climb out of this recession. we have now added an average of over 50,000 jobs each month over the first quarter of this year. this month's increase was the best news we've seen on the job front in more than two years. [applause] >> at the same time, it is important to have to emphasize

that we still have a way to go. we should not underestimate the difficulties we face as a country where the hardships that confront millions of our fellow citizens, some of your friends, some of your neighbors, some of your relatives that you know are going to a tough time. 8 million people have lost jobs over the past two years. that is staggering. economic statistics do not do justice to the pain and exile -- anxiety that results from unemployment. it takes a toll on families, marriages, it takes a toll on children. it stabs the vitality of

communities. being unable to on -- to find work, to provide for your family, that affects your economic security and your heart and your soul. it beats you up. it is hard. we have to be mindful that today's numbers, while welcome, they leave us with a lot of work to do. it will take time to achieve a strong and sustained job growth that we need. long before the recession hit, for decades, middle-class families have been experiencing a decline of economic security. paychecks were flat line, even though the cost of everything from college education to health care were all going up. this means that even as we pull out of this immediate crisis, we have to tackle some of the long- term problems that have been a drag on our economy. that is why we have been working so hard to turn this economy around.

it is not quick. it is not easy. the truth is, there are some limits to what the government can do. the government cannot reverse the toll of this recession overnight. the government, on its own, cannot replace the 8 million jobs that have been lost. the true engine of job growth in this country has always been the private sector, businesses like celgard. of what government can do is create the conditions for companies to succeed. it can help create conditions for countries -- for companies to hire again. it can build infrastructure that creates incentives that allows small businesses to hire workers, allow on to producers to take a chance on ideas, allow many factors to set up shop in places like charlotte. that is what we did through the recovery, also known as the stimulus bill.