to get involved with the community and get involved with the police department and go in as a volunteer so that there is not a visible threat that is being perceived. it is a problem, it really is. one of the other things i have observed since obama is president is that we have so many people misinformed about health care and what the government is going to do and they get most of their thoughts from fox news or some of these other radical discussion groups that help perpetuate it. host: mark potok, your thoughts? guest: i could not agree more. i think the knitting together of communities one stitch at a time is the kind of democracy we need to do. i do not think the country is collapsing or that we will see a race war or anything like that. i think is worth remembering that with all the trouble we are going through right now, we are

a nation that went through 250 years of slavery followed by a century of jim crow. in your 40 or so years later, tends millions of black people in this country did -- tens of millions of white people in this country did vote for a black president. every generation in this country is more open to international -- interracial marriages and relationships and so on. i think we are moving to a better place. but you know, history does not move forward in a solid, unbroken line. we go through these difficult times and i think as the caller suggested, we are seeing one right now. host: you have the last call for mark potok. go ahead. caller: people like chris matthews and yourself, when democrats were voting against

obama, they were considered racist. it is not against the law to be anti-government. we are allowed to. daly, 24 hour domestic terrorism is happening in black neighborhoods with the christmas -- the crypts. you have only had 75 incidences of [unintelligible] these people are killing them daily. when i go after these domestic terrorists? guest: because they are not domestic terrorists and we are not a law-enforcement agency. i absolutely agree, violence in the cities and elsewhere is responsible for far more criminality and numbers of deaths than people who blow up federal buildings. there is no doubt about that. but the gangs and the mexican

mafia and the aryan brotherhood, these are fundamentally criminal enterprises. the are not seeking to -- they are not seeking to impose some sort of ideology. we also do cover hate groups of all kinds. the new dock panther party, which is utterly unlike end -- the new black panther party, which is utterly unlike the to original, is a racist hate group. but whatever it is worth, we try very hard