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[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 201c mr. ram os the author often books including a country for all. immigrant manifesto. >> i have a twit another count and when you say where to you live. mostly in miami but either i'm mostly on the air doing news casting and television program or on the air traveling all around the world. my family. they live in mexico city. i have very good friends all

over the united states, my doubter is right now in paris. my girlfriend in los angeles. i don't have a home. maybe - maybe my only home was where i was born in mexico city, and it's the house where i lived for almost 20 years and i still remember the address and the phone number. and that's the only time in my life where i've felt at home. and now in the united states, this country has given me opportunity my country couldn't give me but still, i have the sense of i'm an immigrant and i feel like one. 27 years after getting to the united states i still feel like an immigrant. >> there's no home for me anymore. >> why did you become an american citizen and what year did you do it? >> 202008 for. me it was important to participate fully in this

country. it's truly wonderful country and my fight is this country would treat other immigrants the way they would treat me. the millions of immigrants that came after me. it's truly amazing. who could have thought that when john f. kennedy wrote this book nati of immigrants it was 1958. i was born that year and with those wonderful ideas and of course, he was killed 1963 but in 1965 with the immigration act of 1965, everything changes and because of that and him and the nation of immigrants, i am in this country. i wanted to participate fully. very concerned about the war and my kids. i have a 24 and nicholas is 12. i wanted to be fully part of the united states. that is a wonderful magnificent country for me.

>> those that don't speak spanish and don't watch yuan vision. lately you have a period on other english speaking networks. where do they see you night after night? >> i do news cast at 6:30 every night nation wide. going to not tonal united states but also 13 latino american programs and sunday mornings i have the political talk show so sundays are every night. what's interesting is when i first arrived in the united states in 1983. there were only about 15 million latinos in this country. right there are 15 million. and right now. in many cities like miami and los angeles and new york. chicago. we're news cast in spanish get

better ratings and more audience than english newscasters. something is changing in this country. latinos will be the majority in this country. we will be here 100 years from now. latinos will be the majority in this country. it's changing from the way we talk to the way we dance to the way we do politics. there's new rule in politics in the united states. without latino vote no one can make it to the white house. everything has been changed. >> i counted under the affiliates about 64. is that number close across the country? >> own and operated, less than that but operates probably the right number. >> how many people watch you at 6:30 a night? >> it's over 2,000,000 people. easily. we're the fifth largest network in the united states. people don't realize that.

in the mornings, on sunday, maybe a million people. new through there was a time when several people owned it. who owns it now? >> it's a new group. it's in charge of the group. and there's a group of in voss or thes that trusted us and i think they believe in us and the hispanic community and they believe that we're going to keep on growing. what's so interesting is while the networks constantly complain about the declining ratings, we're going exactly the opposite way. now with the world cup. we have a game recently. it was mexico playing against worldwide and more than 9 million people tune in. so something is changing in this country. something magnificent is going on in this country. and it also has to do with mass.

not only more immigrants still coming in. most of them speak spanish but we latinos love each other so much that we tend to have more children. three children per family in comparison to the th two per ref the american families. >> the company that owns you any vision. moved to israel, moved to france. moved to the united states. what was the mighty more fan power ranger thing he developed years ago. very active politically, democrat in the country. - big supporter of bill clinton. owned the spanish speaking network. >> this is based on the acceptance of immigrants and diversity and this country promotes activity.

what a wonderful experiment when the talk was - he was amazed by realizing it doesn't matter where you come from. there's this sense of equality. so it's his story and my story and millions of stories once you come to this country. everything up everyone was promised here all men and womanr created equal. unfortunately things are changing. i came from south africa in the world cup and i was - amazingly surprised to see how only in 16 years south africans not only have put aside but they are progressing incredibly against discrimination but when i came back and see what's going on in arizona you realize they're

going in the opposite direction of south africans. not saying majority of people there, for instance want to colcol create that system but the way they treat immigrants resembles the worst they've seen in south africa. >> in your book, no borders at the very last sentence. therefore for me the united states is an odorless country. neutral and so my nose is always pointed towards mexico. >> it's - yeah, when i wrote that, i felt exactly the same way. >> 2002. >> new - they're so annic dotele. i broke my nose three times and i cannot smell at all.

i'm teaching my children to respect the roots and their history and i'm proud of having been porn in mexico and i'm incredibly proud of being a u.s. citizen. few years ago, i was talking to the chile an writer and she told me that for many years, she was having these conflicts. she didn't know if she was from chile or the united states. she felt she needed to choose. then 9/11 came and she realized she could be from both. i feel exactly the same way. i fortunately think that i don't have to choose. can i be both from both countries rom the united states and mexico and proud to be from both. >> let me read from dying to cross written in 2003-2004 after the victoria, texas trailer that

had 19 people die. >> trying get into the united states. >> the mexican government. your writing this. mexican government has never under any ad min administration made any serious effort to stop the flow of undocumented flow of immigrants to the north. that's because it wasn't and isn't in the country's best interest. the best effort of fox's is reporting the danger office crossing the border illegally but the end result was nothing more than thousands of posters printed up and tacked on electricity poles ands but stations. without the money sent home. mexico's economy would crumble. >> it's true. it's still the truth now. mexican government is not interesting in stopping mexicans from come together the united states. it's an economic problem. as long as there's mexicans making five dollars a day and

jobs where they can make the same amount of money in just an half an hour. they're going to keep on coming. look. in mexico. just to keep up, with a new workers coming into the job market, they would have to create a million jobs per year and they're creating not even 100,000. what's happening with the 900 thousand mexicans ev every sing year. young powerful mexicans don't have a job, they come to the united states. every single year we have an average. the numbers have declined lately but on average there's 450 thousand immigrants come together the united states illegally every single year and there's jobs for them. it's an economic problem. it's an economic problem that requires an economic solution. mexico right now, and i have to say that is not interesting in

stopping that. what are they going to do with these 900 thousand new workers every single year without a job. >> it's something that has to be dealt with, with both governments the united states thinks that they can deal with immigration alone by themselves and it's not possible. they have to deal with mexico on this issue. >> you mix up lively discussion and here's little exert from lieu dobs back and forth that happened after lou dobs left cnn. >> you insist on calling on undocumented immigrants illegal aliens. >> no. >> you just mentioned that. >> no. please. >> president barack obama, john mccain, newt gingrich they've stopped using word illegal immigrants. would you change that now? >> i don't see the point.

i don't see the point. >> you don't' the argument. >> please listen to me. >> the argument is your calling them illegal but - you want to have a conversation. >> i'm giving you the argument. >> but i want to talk to george ram os. i don't need a mouth piece for other points. i bring you mine i can't recollects bring me yours. >> look. ya'll calling them illegals but you don't call the american company that have hired them illegal company? >> i have said all the long the illegal employer the central issue in the entire mess. i call them illegal. i call them illegal employers and i taken to establishment. i'm not rolling over to play games here. i'm taking on the power structure. for what? you're trying what? >> what was that? >> he had left cnn, and we were

doing these interview for our sunday morning talk show. what's so interesting is that - i think there's a double standard when you recall illegals and undocumented immigrants and we don't realize that thousands of american companies are hiring them. still even now. millions of americans take advantage of the work and we don't call them illegal american companies or illegal u.s. citizens so, there's really no illegal human being. so what's so interesting is that i understand if your unemployed in the country. there's 15 million people unemployed and let's talk about the fears of many people. they're concerned that if we legalize 11,000,000 undocumented immigrants they might lose their jobs but the reality is all

immigrants contribute much more to the economy than what they take away from it. and that immigrants pay taxes and they create jobs and don't take away jobs from american citizens. i haven't seen thousands or millions of americans going to the farm fields picking up tomatoes and oranges the houses and apartments we live in were built by immigrants. when we had breakfast and lunch today it was harvested. it's something radio really interesting. president barack obama makes an effort not to call them illegal immigrants. >> let me ask you this. as i read your books i kept seeing undocumented immigrants. but i wanted to find out what the definition was. i got on the internet and got to wikipedia and it says. i want to red you what they say and find out why this is so offensive.

>> an alien that's present in a country which is foreign to him or her. unlawfully or without the country's authorizing is known as an illegal alien of the country. referring to a foreign national that resided unlawfully either of entering that place at an other place or a nonimmigrant visa. what's so offensive to be someone in that category being called illegal? >> even benjamin franklin when germans were coming in, benjamin franklin was concerned that the united states, and especially philadelphia would be germanized the way people think. i think if we can get into this discussion on immigration respectfully, changing the

words, i mean if we're able to change the words and - when you're saying i legal, brian. you think - many people think you're talking about tear ris and criminals and that's what we have to change. we have most of the up documented criminals are not criminals order riss and when people realize that immigrants create jobs, they pay taxes and don't take away jobs from people and when we realize they're not criminals the justice department in a recent study concluded that despite the fact that the immigrant population has more than d doubled the last decade. crime has gone down 35 percent. 25% to robberies. america's majority foundation is conservative organization in a study, they noticed that in the 19 states where is where the

large population of immigrants crime has gone down but in the other states it only went down 7 percent. even in arizona crime has been going down the fbi concluded. immigrants create jobs and the more immigrant use have thshgs less crime you have. once we understand that, i this is going to be easy to understand why we are so offended sometimes when people call them illegals because when you use the word illegal, many people think criminals and i think that john mccain doesn't use that word newt gingrich had made an effort not to use the word. maybe we can change the debate a bit. >> forget the labels for a moment. is there any country that would let, pick your number. 11-12,000,000 who are not documented go into their down

industry? >> yeah. united nations published a report saying there's 214,000,000 immigrants in other world. and we have only 11 million of them. >> how many are undocumented. >> yeah. and then overall probably the percentage of immigrants are foreign born would be about 14%. at this point. so yes, we're talking about 35 million immigrants. >> let me ask you this. i'm not on a side but i want to get to you're thinking. i've heard them. americans who are very much in favor of people from outside here and certainly people from mexico or anywhere, hispanics but when they don't like is the fact that they're not here with documents. i mean is it possible because this thing gets so emotional

that people have a legitimate reason for not wanting members or people here not documented. >> we can agree the immigration system is broken and no one likes undocumented immigration. i think we can all agree that people should not die at the border. i think we can all agree that u.s. should not separate families and it's impossible to deport 11,000,000 undocumented immigrants and the united states has the right to protect it's borders. and i understand that but we have to understand that they're here not only because they wanted to come here, they are here because thousands of american companies need them hired them, and because millions of americans are taken advantage of their work so. i think it's a double standard

and hypocritical. and many of the people for are criticizing them are being benefitted every single day by the presence in this country. so there's something that we have to do something. it's impossible, incredible the most powerful country in the world is persecuting and discriminating against 11,000,000 people going against the principals of the declaration of independence. >> you've had a little back and forth with the gentleman named hugo chavez. i want to show video of you on a news cast. public needs to read - it's not done in spanish but it's a couple of minutes but it shows your position on mr. chavez and is it chavez or chavez? >> in spanish it's chavez. >> not pronounceded - let's watch.

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playing in this town by oliver stone and every review says he loves the guy. what is going on? you hear a lot of americans - not a lot but you hear what a great president this guy is. >> he's not a democrat and that's the problem. it's that simple. president hugo chavez has concentrated the power. he controls the congress, supreme court and the electoral body and the army. he controls most media in venezuela. that's not a democracy. he's been able to win m.d. legislations. that's reflect on what he's done in venezuela but it's not only a corrupt government but a tired government. he's won elections because the

political base has disappeared because he doesn't allow candidates to participate in elections. >> have a sense why a man like oliver stone would like him? >> some people like dictators and yeah. - it's interesting. for instance, an interview. it fantastic to talk about chavez or talk with fidel castro. they're interesting people. i mean but the fact they're interesting - um... you can get away from the fact that they are dictators. >> i want to read something he wrote about interviewing. when i interview presidents or people with lots of power, i like imagining them with their big bellies and backaches. bags under their eyes balding with hair coming out of their ears and dirty nails that haven't been cut in other words i like lowering them to a managing and realistic level if

you let them stand on their super human laurels you'll never have a good interview. >> i wondered what i should do. what your point here? >> the point is the most important mission as a journalist and in journalism is to con front those who are in power and question them so that we can prevent abuse of power. who's going to ask those questions to fidel castro and hugh go chavez? and for any president. that ours job as journalist to ask the tough questions and sometimes of course if you go to venezuela, the second or third time i talk to hugo chavez i went to there to talk to him. he said let's go to the border with colombia so i had to take another flight that by the way,

an airplane that almost fell because there was a - almost had an accident. when he decided to talk to me. he was surrounded by hundreds of people, so whenever i asked a question, i was booed and whenever he answered he got applause from all the people. that's difficult. so i would have to think of hugo chavez not as authoritative president of venezuela but i have to think of him as just a human being who is sometimes insecure and who has kids. just in order to have a conversation. otherwise i wouldn't be able to ask a single question. >> which american politician, you've interviewed almost all the names was the harder interview to get them to say anything or the toughest interview because - we'll say tough. which one.

>> you've done president obama and john mccain. >> all the u.s. presidents since - it's always difficult to go to the white house. and confront the president. it's never easy. >> why? >> it's always the most powerful man in the world. it doesn't matter that you know them during the campaign. once you go to the white house - and you talk to them in the height house, it's a different story. it doesn't matter that you might have had a good conversations during the campaign. i spent a lot of time with george w. bush in california where he was campaigning and it was a very different person in the height house. >> how? >> the power gets to them. and - they are very fast, completely isolated and they

lose touch with reality very fast. they tend to forget their promises very fast. and - there is a sense noticed in all u.s. presidents. their system is sudden and when they talk about having the life of others in their hands, their decisions to go into war especially with president bush and now obama. it's been a heavy weight on both of them. >> do you feel that with other sorry sen be fox? >> calderone. >> no. when a president goes to war, and there's thousands of lives in their and. you can have a great conversation with george w. bush or even president barack obama and we can discuss the economy,

but when it comes to war their faces change and you know this a sudden type of thing. there many thing this can't tell you but you just say war and it's - they change. it's completely different. it's something i don't think they realize until they're in the height house in the oval office and that sense of history, and really being responsible for the death of other people - i've never seen it anywhere else. not with any other foreign leader. it's not same. with u.s. presidents it's completely different. it's very different to be the leader of the world than be another person. >> back to one of your paragraphs. mexico, your home country. originally. in the early ages was suffocating me if i remained there i probably would have been a poor, frustrated censored

journalist or a psychologist or professor speaking out against those that censored me. what are there? 115 million people in mexico? >> 105 million. >> one of the ten biggest cities right on our border here. why is it so different there than here? >> we have different origins and different culture. different history. different priorities. >> why the censorship? why the fear? >> since- 1929, until 2000, mexico had only one party. pri. it was not a dictatorship but almost a dictatorship. as a matter of fact, peru writer, called it a perfect dictatorship because it didn't present as a dictatorship, but it was.

back then imagine growing up in a government like that that would not allow me, forget about the questioning the president to say anything bad or critical of the president? i was 23 or 24 then. i did a report on the presidency in which i in clund two member of the opposition party. two member of the opposition and they didn't allow me to run the report. it was complete censorship. they said you can't use them in your report. have to change it and not be critical of the president. you have to say he is a great president and then i quit. i was very young, i was idealistic and i still are and i decided to quit. i sold my car and got $2000. got accepted at ucla and came as a student in 1983. >> you say you're in 13 other countries.

any of those ever sensor your news cast? >> i'm sure they do. sometimes it's funny during electoral periods they don't run our news cars and there's many times when somebody decides that the interview or report is too strong and they simply don't run it. it happens all the time. even know, it happens all the time. so - i'm used to that. i fight that all the time, but it's a wonderful about the united states. i'm never seen another country that has such fantastic open freedom of the press. it's amazing how we treat our presidents here. it's something you would not see any almost any other country in the world. >> why do you think that is? >> first amendment. when, as i say a journalist it's such a privilege just to have first amendment and to be in

country in which it is not only possible but healthy to criticize your own government. remember during the health care debate when president barack obama called democrats and republicans to the white house and they were discussing openly in front of the cameras for how many hours? six, maybe more. talking to the same day, i was talking to dez monday due-due and the south african ark. bishop and we were amazed by the permanent experiments in democracy. the president would be confronted in front of millions of people by the opposition party and nothing happens? they go back to their homes and nothing happens. in other countries when you would do that you would have a military coo or demonstration in

the streets. no. you can do that in probably we're so used to that. but it's wonderful and a marvelous experience. >> the argument here is they're not open enough. >> they're not open enough and we would like - or even staged? >> and we would like it even more open, but still is fantastic if you compare it to other places. of course, in great britain they have these - their political culture is different and the debate is not only common but almost obligated by the politicians. i'm still amazed by what i can see in the united states. >> in your books you talk about your children and your wives and you mentioned a girlfriend earlier so your what? two wives? >> no. i have two kids. i'm divorced. i was married once. and i'm 52.

[laughs] >> the kids are where, doing what? >> my daughter is doing internship at the europe union. wants to get in politics. fortunately not into journalism and nicholas is 12. for many years he wanted to be a soccer player and right now in the middle of the world cup you can understand that. i brought him with me to south africa and we had the best time watching the u.s., great bli britain games. >> where do they live? >> nicholas lives with me in miami and paula is living in los angeles. >> in the newest paper back a country for all. immigrant man fess to. at the back in the acknowledgments you name great latino by nears and i want to go

through them and tell me why you think they're great. caesar chavez. >> he's the one who gave us this fantastic sense of the importance of being latino and being proud of our roots. - and he's the one who fought for latino rights and for immigrant rights before anyone else. and there's no question that because of him because of the caesar chavez i'm here. there's no question that because of caesar chavez now we can say no one makes it to the white house without the hispanic vote. he opens the way for many of us. >> died when? >> um... >> early 90's? >> yeah. >> his actual job at the end was what? >> i think, the most important thing when i think of caesar chavez, i think of latinos and

immigrant rights as a civil right issue. i think that - when we think of him, we latinos wouldn't be here. we wouldn't have progress so much without caesar chavez. that was his main job. delores hurta. it was that person that i had a conversation with during the campaign. >> who is she now? >> still working with immigrants in california. it's - she's the one that started this trace or phrase of, yes, we can. she supported initially hillary clinton and after hillary lost the nomination she went to support president barack obama. >> did president barack obama get that slogan from her? >> he did. he didn't know that. but it was her that started it. >> not so sure you say julian?

>> he was a professor of the southwest that - he's one of the first persons that denounced discrimination of latinos. i remember one of the paragraphs of this marvelous professor when he said he remembers going to parks and reading signs that would say, no latinos and dogs allowed the park. when you have that kind of experience, and go through the most difficult times in the united states against minorities and success, that's example you want to follow all your life. >> he's from colorado and he's no longer a professor. i should know this. how do you pronounce the last

name? >> ycuagr. >> he used to work for lula rosea and if we put everyone together. caesar chavez and all of them together. you want to find right now, the so-called father of all latinos it would be him. he's been fighting for latino rights all of his life even today. >> you hoe him? >> yes personally. he's been a mentor to me and to many, many latinos in this country. because of them, we remember that we latinos are part of this country, but at the same time we can maintain certain element office our latino culture. >> and the final name is henry seesnar seesnaros.

>> not only i work with him but i'm completely convinced the first hispanic president has been born. there more latinos than african-americans and they already have their first president i think we should. having said that. he was the first person, we all thought was going to be the first hispanic president of the united states. and he has been fighting for hispanic rights and opening up possibilities. he's probably the first politician that opened up the possibility of having a hispanic president. >> mayor of san antonio and the mayor of hud. what happened here? >> for personal reasons, he didn't continue in politics but he's presence is felt each now. >> but personal reasons were he had admit having a mistress and all of that? is that fair that he has to step

aside because of that? >> i don't think so. i think he would have been a fantastic first president. >> he's still around. >> but i don't think he's interesting in running for public office anymore but he would have been a wonderful president, but now we're thinking about a new generation. the new mayor of san antonio or the george bush former son of jeb bush. democrat and republican. those are two great young possibilities for having first hispanic president. >> the most unusual thing i read in all of your background. talk about is mare sell spruce. >> why him? where did you come across him? >> well, has to do with my nose. i was born in 1958 and back then, i don't know why.

maybe the same thing in the united states here, but the medical fashion was to have a birth with fore septemceforceps. so i was actually pulled into live by my nose. my mom think i was pulled into life through my nose and, she still remembers having a huge scar on my nose for many years. so, little by little, i started losing my sense of smell. i was - i always had a crooked nose and then i had three surgeries to try to sort of correct that. and then i broke it again playing basketball and i had a fight and broke it again.

i've lost it so many times that my sense of smell is incredibly limited. so much to proof in his novel talking about the smell of how the smell would brings him back to his youth and sometimes just that little tiny sense of smell i still have. when i smell the grass after it rapes, it brings me back to mexico. it brings me back when i was five, six or seven. >> did raw read all seven volumes? >> no. probably just the first two. >> in college? >> i think it was in college. that image of him and his characters, smelling the motherling. he was so to my crooked nose. >> you also quote often, tot a totre

totreal. >> yeah. he was - the great adventurer. it would have been fantastic to be to talk about. sometimes we're off. when we just have the fourth of july i was in washington and new york. just imagine a modern 21'st century going to the fireworks here in washington or in new york? what a wonderful experience and again, the same ideal that he got that - what he was most fascinated of about this country was the equality. everyone is equal in this country. it's exactly the same thing we see right now. the fact that barack obama an african-american without a father made it to the white house is the best example we have that anything is possible

in this country. and i'm another example of that. >> back to your work, we see members of congress on the floor and in committees speaking english. lincoln diaz, lewis guiterrez and mr. diaz from florida. i believe is retiring. but you interviewed them in spanish? >> yes. >> i want you to see, or people to see what you do on your network. >> okay. [conversation in spanish]

>> you're in there and who's the woman? >> that's my coanchor. we've been working together for more than 20 years now. >> your bilingual. obviously. can you tell the difference? is there a different emotion in spanish than english? >> i hope you have the opportunity to watch up the work up through uni vision and you might think it's a different game and year because of the way

we express our emotions in spanish completely different than the announcers on espn. world cup. going beyond that, the u.s. is the largest spanish speaking country in the world with the exception of mexico. latinos are a growing factor in this country and they'll be the majority eventually. i'm not saying we're becoming a bilingual country but already part of the united states are bilingual in that part of our culture as the united states of america is just to have another language. this is the only country in the world who i know people complain that we speak spanish or french or other languages in other countries is exactly what their looking for. so - it is fantastic we have the possibility of speaking both english and spanish and yes, the

emotions are different. what you showed was a debate on immigration and in most members of hispanic heritage speak spanish fluently. >> what's the difference of the emotion of a cuban american and a mexican-american? this issue, why is one more often more conservative and one more liberal? >> has to do with the law. cuban-americans have been very successful in presenting their point of view in washington. they know how washington works and they've been able to protect people coming from cuba. so if your cuban, and you get into the united states and you're able to touch u.s. territory. you can stay here legally. but if your mexican, doing exactly the same thing and you touch u.s. territory, you're going to be detained and deported. >> what do you think of that? >> great.

mexicans would have is same rights but it's a completely different situation. cuban's are coming from escape from a dictatorship and most are coming for economic reasons. i think the united states that is right to protect it's borders but we have to change the immigration system. it's not working and it's not right that some have certain rights and others are treated differently. that doesn't make any sense. i understand however why cue pans are doing it. i'm all in favor of protecting thoseest scraping that dictatorship? >> you live among a lot of cuban americans. >> my son and daughter have cuban blood in their vains so yeah, of course. >> that come from tu mere the . this is you in english interviewing an english speaker

of congress. >> with my english accent. >> let me start. >> no, they do not. [conversation in spanish] >> why you think he sat for an interview? >> they need latinos. the republican party has to make peace with latinos on immigration and republican party has to make peace with them in general if they don't, they're going to lose election after election after election. it's that simple. where is john mccain right now? i interviewed him many times, but once in september of 202008 and back then he told me that he was in favor of a path to

citizenship and he considered all undocumented immigrants as god's children. now he's rowing a tough primary and what happened? are they not god's children anymore? why isn't he - when we need republicans right now. president barack obama cannot do it alone. where are the 11 republicans that voted for immigration reform three years ago. the republican party doesn't make peace with latinos on immigration first and then on other issues they're going to lose them and they're going to lose the power for many generations from now. it's interesting. all latinos it was said are republicans, just they don't know it because latinos tend to be more conservative. they're against abortion and big government. very suspicious of big government so it's - in terms of

values latinos are close to the republican party and they feel in terms of history close to democrats. >> this the one that's the last of the actually, five. barack obama may 23rd, 2007. the time to fix the broken immigration system is now. what did you think of the speech? >> it was not only a good speech. i think the was a great speech with lack of action. it's not enough. >> being an american is not a matter of blood or birth. it's a matter of faith. fidelity to the shared values that we all hold so dear. that's what makes us unique and strong. that's what makes us strong. anybody can help us right the next great chapter in history.

now, we can't forget that this process of immigration and eventual inclusion is often been painful. each new wave of immigrants is generated fear and resentment towards newcomers particularly in times of economic upheaval. >> president barack obama running for office, he was running for the white house. he told me in an interview in may of 202008 he was going to have an immigration bill during his first year in office. 18 months later nothing has happened. president barack obama broke his promise. it's that simple. - and - the speech was fantastic, but we need action. he could have stopped the deportation of students or stopped the deportation of the parent office u.s. citizens. he could have called for a by partisan white house sum it on immigration or presented his own proposal and immigration bill as

he promised during that campaign and he didn't. so - the time for speechs is over. i mean the time for this is way over. we need action. >> question to you about being an anchor person in journalism and high you take sides. i want to read ely's exert from night. we must take sides. neutrality helps the o pre sore and never the victim. action is the only remedy to in difference. why do you take sides on this issue? >> i would say as an imgrant i take sides. i think it's valiant. i do my job as a journalist and every single night i'm not supposed to and i should not and will not give my opinion during the newscast, neither during my political show on sunday mornings because that's not my role. i was not hired to give my

opinion and i will not as a jaurp list. i think people at the same time understand you and i have opinions and that's an immigrant, i have the privilege of being an immigrant with a voice. not only because i'm on t.v. every single night but because i'm invited to programs like yours and because - there are millions of immigrants that don't have a voice. there's millions of immigrants in vice to be able the rest. as an immigrant i have to take sides and i'm taking side with those immigrants who came behind me. sometimes, it is giving voice to the voiceless and makes those not in. as an immigrant and journalist and writer, i think i have not tome right but the duty to do that. >> how many books have you written? >> ten. >> which one sold the most?

>> i wrote some letters to my children about three years ago and that was the most personal, the one that sold the most. hopefully, this one will sell well now. >> this is - was it in hard back? >> no. it was written in spanish originally and now it's updated with the arizona and hopefully, we'll need this or we won't need this book two years from now. it's a book calling for action. hopefully, well get immigration reform in the next two years and we won't need a book like this. >> you can watch at 6:30 east coast time? repeat and the west coast? >> yes. 6:30. >> on, uni vision. thank you for joining us. >> thank you and this is wonder full to be able to talk so much.

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