came from online ads. i am not sure people would be as worried about privacy applications as they are now, where there is concern the sensitive data is being acquired and may be used, if they were not worried that data being collected for advertising purposes were being used for some other purpose. >> thank you both for coming on "the communicators." [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] >> and tonight in prime time, c- span intends to reassure all the 9/11 events from today. we will start at 8:00 p.m. eastern with president obama and defense secretary gates at the

pentagon. at 8:35, we take you to a tribute to the 40 passengers killed in flight 93. after that, an event from the university of texas at dallas with the pilots and air traffic controllers who worked on september 11 at nine years ago. you can see them tonight at 8:00 p.m. on c-span. now, the president of the john birch society. the group was founded in 1958. it described its members as united by a strong belief in personal freedom and limited government. he speaks about the 2008 financial crisis in the u.s. military system. this is part of a conference called "united in action." this is about 55 minutes. >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming to hear what we have to say. i am the president of the john

birch society. i was born and raised in brooklyn new york. i went to holy cross college. i served as a lieutenant in the marine corps. i became an electronics engineer. in 1966, i joined the john birch society, which means i have been at it for 44 years. i am glad to be here to talk about our subject. our subject is the economic meltdown and eight no-nonsense look at economic realities. meltdown, no-nonsense look economic realities. let's start with the first reality and that is the national debt as of 31 august a few days ago, $13 trillion. the population of the united states is 309 million coming each citizen share of this is $43,000. you all of that, please give it up to the government that needs it.

yet amid the national debt increases at approximately 4.09 billion per day, the cost of interest alone totals $1,400 for every man, woman and child in america, and we like to say no wonder a baby cries when he is born. the additional -- actual national debt counting on fund obligations, social security, medicare approaches $100 trillion and yet they still have a foreign aid program. you go to a fourth grader and say if you're heavily in debt should you give away money and a fourth grader would say no and i sometimes think we ought to have fourth graders in congress. here is a picture of how the national debt has risen and so you'll see it's not just the democrats that have done this to us. is the republican administrations and a republican controlled congress is have done this to us. $1 trillion is 100 billion.

a thousand billion, excuse me -- we talk about a billion. i remember it used to be sent a billion there, pretty soon you talk about real money and if he was still alive to talk about a trillion. a trillionaire. the realities in 2010, cost more every time i go to the supermarket. my pay raise doesn't cover rising costs. two incomes barely keep pace with rising costs and college tuition is out of sight. i heard it fellow got the bill for his daughter's college and he said i'd want to buy the place, i just want to send a child. good paying jobs are hard to find that there is a woeful lack of understanding. people say you mean there is no backing for the dollar? no, there is in. what is the federal reserve and how does this affect me? we need the fed because somebody has to manage the currency, one of the greatest lies with a separate country. and honest money does not have to be managed.

honest money is a commodity and commodities don't have to be managed. basketball's are a commodity in don't have to be managed and money should be a commodity and doesn't need to be managed. there's never been honesty in the management of money in all history. and we certainly are experiencing that in our country today. during the lifetime of many americans the u.s. has gone from the greatest creditor nation to the greatest debtor nation and with an increasingly shunned currency. we all recognize that now, we began to appreciate that. every talk about our country being a wealthy nation. what is wealth quacks who defines wealth? wealth is productivity. wealthy nation is on his people take the raw materials of the earth and fasten them to goods. that is what wealth is, productivity. so you did in manufacturing class and in a vibrant middle class and you need national independence. over the past 30 years the

number of manufacturing jobs in our country has declined from 90 million to 30 million and it's still declining. outsourcing, because of nafta, world trade organization and other international groups and then taxation and regulation, osha, epa, that other countries don't face is driving american industry out of our country as well. there are some experts to come along and want to change our country to a service economy combination of paper pushers not producers. no thanks. here is $2. first one says a dollar and is a paper dollar, it will get to one-and-a-half courts of gasoline and the second is a silver dollar and a silver dollar will give teesjxteen ports of gasoline. 4 gallons. but they both say a dollar. so how can one be a dollar and the other? they really can't be but they

are. the first one, of course, is a the federal reserve not in the second is a silver dollar. what has happened to the paper dollar is inflation. no inflation is not rising prices so don't blame the grocer and the gas station attendant, the landlord or employer. don't blame them. yes inflation is an increase in the quantity of currency. so who do you blame? you blame a counterfeiter, the government goes after the counterfeiters. or you been the government's partner, the federal reserve were flooding the nation with currency. we see what is rising prices isn't really rising prices but realization that the dollar's have lost value. how did they lose value? simply put the nation with them. go for a good definition and it's hard to find. you go to a current dictionary and will give a good definition but 1957 webster's new 20th century unabridged said inflation and increasing amount of currency in circulation resulting in a relatively sharp

and sudden fall in its value and rise in prices. that's right. notice that the inflation is an increase in the amount of currency and the affected goods is a seven value -- loss of value in the dollar and rise in the prices. there are two features of inflation of have to be discussed and the press is inflation is thievery. here is john keynes who became a very important socialists, the man who came to the roosevelt administration, the one who said we can spend ourselves into prosperity. no, we can't do that. i've been told my wife we can't do that. what did it keynes say, which was solid and sound -- you said the by continuous process of in place and governments can confiscate secretly and improve part of the wealth of their citizens, the process engages all of the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction and does so in a

manner that not one man in a million can diagnose. that's not true because the john birch society have been telling about what inflation is so it's not a one in a million, it's still too many americans who don't understand this but we're working at. inflation is the report can also destroy the nation. here is henry hazlitt who was a decent economist in 1946. he said inflation tears of for the whole fabric of stable economics from a drives men toward desperate revenues come of these men to demand totalitarian controls, and invariably the solution and collapse. here is a chart that shows the value of the market in germany. at the end of world war i germany was required to pay reparations, they didn't have the money so they printed money. they paid off that way. so in january of 1922, one u.s. dollar converted 289 marks.

you can see what happened, and less than three years one u.s. dollar converted to 4.2 trillion marks. printing the dollar, the marks of that time became senseless so the government simply said it we're going to have a new currency and i came through and send 1 trillion reichsmarks equal one renton marked. what did that do to germany? what happened in germany is the people lost their homes and their businesses and farms and became very bitter. they gave rise to a fellow named adolf hitler. absolutely. this gave rise to the nazi germany takeover cannot cease taking over germany. here's an interesting pictures. a woman on the left heel in her home by putting bottles of rice market into the furnace. that is all they were before. on the right to sue some boys and there are making a fortress out of blocks of rice marks. that is all they ever before.

so inflation is the very bad inflation can destroy your country and it can destroy ours as well. here's an interesting letter from the deutsche bank in germany written to an american citizen in portland oregon in 1925. he had written to the bank and wanted to know and happen to his deposits of a million marks. well, he got back a letter, they were very kind and gentle with the letter but one sentence in the middle says, the balance on your account has, in fact, been wiped out. goodbye. he knew that but you just wanted to get confirmation. let's talk about money. what is money? money is a medium for exchange. that's all it is. there have been three times of money in all history. there is commodity money which is, of course, what we like and like to see and that is gold or silver, coins or bars, platinum,

could be anything at all. so commodity money. then there is fiduciary money, the word fiduciary comes from latin for trust. so fiduciary money is essentially into physically value as substitutes for commodity money. >> [inaudible] >> its value is based on trust and it can be exchanged for commodity money, gold or silver. so gold or silver certificate is a fiduciary money and i can live with that. as long as there's something in the bank behind the paper. then you finally get to fiat money, made legal tender by law that becomes money as a result of government edict. is not redeemable in the commodity or for duchenne running. we have gone in our country in my lifetime from commodity money to fiduciary money to fiat money. money must be an accepted commodity and over the course of

history there have been interesting things used as money. some of the commodities, cattle, seashells, salt, salt is used to inflate and i got away from that quickly, nails, tobacco. all of these have built-in problems and so over the course of history millennia people have decided to use what for many? may have used gold, silver, and why? well, gold is the best because it is divisible, durable, scarce. silver, also. that is the course of history period go to holy scripture and you'll read about gold and silver. in fact, judas' betrayed christ for what? for a piece of paper? know, for 30 pieces of silver. let's go to the constitution. what does the constitution say about money? very little. constitution article one section eight -- congress shall have power to coin money, regulate the value and a form point and

fix the standard of weights and measures. what's the power given? well, you could establish a man's, to stamp the people's precious metal and coinage of the weight and purity and they did so and they did so starting in 1792 writer way. u.s. mint was started and the people took their gold, silver and have a stanton to coinage of a fixed size, weight and purity. it was proper and you can get it done for no charge. you could pay a little if you wanted to go to the head of the line and pay a little and get service fast. that's what happened and the fact that we now have that currency was one of the reasons our nation took off. what else did it said? you can regulate the value thereof, regulated the value with a fixed size, weight and purity of the coinage. you did not have .65-ounce coins and .82-ounce coins, you had 1 ounce coins and so forth. made it easy to transact

business. then they have the power to determine and publish the value of various foreign coins. in our country spanish coins would be used, pieces of eight, a lot of other different kinds of points of the congress got together and said the spanish coin is worth so much over. some other point from some of the country is worth so much and that helped to spur congress as well. and then created a standard of weights and measures to facilitate normal transactions. there shall be 12 inches and a foot, 16 ounces of town and so forth and ladies and gentlemen, that is all the power that was given to the congress of the united states in the constitution regarding my. that's it. but we done the constitution now and find a states regulating themselves out of the business of making money. no state shall coin mining. show even have bills of credit.

the term for paper money. they had their experience during the revolutionary time, they didn't want to have anything to do with paper money and shall make anything but gold and silver coin and tender and payment of debts. this is amazing because here we had jealous guardians of state sovereignty in a to the 13 colonies, each of them willingly giving up power to coin money. it was amazing. it shows the character and the long-range thinking of the founders of our country. no paper money, only gold and silver recognize that the state level. was the attitude of our founders regarding paper money? elsewhere connecticut said it shut the door a desperate for money. james wilson of pennsylvania, remove the possibility of paper money. pierce butler, disarm the government of such power. langdon in new hampshire, i love this -- you said reject the whole constitution if paper money is not barred.

that's how much they think. we know what happened during that time. of the government of the united states issued the continentals and came from the continental congress first and the continentals that eventually were found to be worthless. they paid the troops in our war for independence with worthless paper money and it created a lot of bitterness. it gave rise to the expression that i use to hear my parents and grandparents say, something wasn't worth the continental. they were talking about an automobile. so we move on. the quick pictorial history of what's happened to the money in the united states. here we have the 197 gold certificate. it said on it, the certifies it's been deposited in treasury of in the state's $10 and gold coin payable to the bear on demand. the finest paper money the world has known completes fiduciary money. 197. it is gone. here is a silver certificate.

1935. the same thing. again issued by the u.s. treasury certifies treasury $1 and silver payable to the bear on demand. good money, gone, we don't have that anymore. let's go back. federal reserve was started in 1913. from 1913 until president roosevelt took us off the gold standard, the federal reserve notes had to compete side by side with u.s. treasury notes. so if you can read it at the top there, the top left, it says redeemable in gold on demand by the united states treasury or lawful any federal reserve bank. so this had the american people started to accept, federal reserve note is as good as u.s. treasury note. is redeemable in gold until results took us off the gold standard in 1933.

then what happened? years in 1934 federal reserve note -- this is legal tender for does public and private and redeemable in lawful money of the u.s. treasury or federal reserve bank. interesting thing happened here. fellow went to a bank, he had one of these $20 bills, federal reserve note 1934 and plastic on the table and asked the teller if you could have some lawful money. the girl said, do you want to tens or 45? he said, no, if you give me those it's says on them -- i was like some lawful money please and she went and got the boss. he came out and said what can i do for you any said alison lawful money for my 20. what do you mean by lawful money. gold. he said, i'm sorry, give me back my 20 and out the door he went. in have been confirmed through him that we have been taken off

the gold standard. so then the federal reserve started putting out the use and this is what you carry in your pocket or purse today -- federal reserve note, this is legal tender for all this public and private redeemable in nothing. zilch. and in my lifetime the above from the finest paper money the world has ever known to totally irredeemable paper. the value of which, the amount to which, interest rates on which are set by a private concern called the federal reserve. remember what i said -- private concern, it's not a government entity. now, every once in awhile to get help from places like the national geographic magazine in 93 put out an article called the power of money. the fellow named peter white from the magazine went to the fed, he ended up there from around wrote, in his article he had just been told by a the fed

official repurchased a hundred million dollars in treasury bills. he asked some questions. we have reproduced exactly what the magazine said. where did this bennett get that 100 million and the official said we created it. the fed official said any time the central bank writes a check it for its money, it's money that didn't exist before. he actually said this. so peter says is there any limit on that? did question. and the fed official says no limit, all with a good judgment and conscience of responsible federal reserve people. sleep well my friends, sleep well, you've got nothing to worry about. so where did you get that authority, he asks. end a the fed official said it was delegated in the federal reserve in 1913 based on the constitution article one section a congress has the power to coin money and so forth which is a

bald faced lie. that the fed official was probably just repeating bhilai, he did not create a lie. but it is just not so. the constitution gives congress the power to coin money, first of all, not to delegate the authority and second not to have somebody say that there's something in the coining of money that isn't there a. which is what has happened. now, the national geographic article, the fellow went to york or there is the debt clock -- i don't know if you've seen it. in actually exist and, of course, this was 1993 and notes that is at the national debt at the time was 3.7 and we have now gone to 13-point something. i can remember when they went from nine to 10, they shut the national debt clock down because they didn't have room for the extra digit. actually is shut down for a while until they rebuild it and now it has an extra digits.

pretty soon i am hoping that we don't have to go and shut it down again for another digit. but the way there are going, who knows? okay, let's go to the federal reserve. here we have a man named paul volcker who headed the federal reserve in 1979 to 87. you join the council on foreign relations in 1970 and made himself available to the insiders who are running what i call it conspiracy. he said at one time during his testimony for appointment, asked to go before the senate for approval and said the standard of living of the average american has declined, i don't thank you can escape that. well, thank you very much mr. volcker. but i don't want my standard of living to decline and obviously you intend to do that. he certainly did. i should mention here that he was reappointed after his first term for another term on the federal reserve by ronald reagan. i know a lot of people have a lot of big high aspirations --

admiration of ronald reagan. i'm afraid i don't sherrif to. for that and for many other reasons. then we go to after volcker to alan greenspan. alan greenspan is a classic example of a man who knew the truth and then sold out in order to move up the line. because in 1967 he wrote the article called capitalism, the on on my deal, and in it he said true -- to the absence of the gold standard there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. absolutely true. but he sold out to come and join the council on foreign relations in 1978 and then tapped him to run the fed and he ran the fed for almost 20 years. he's the man would go before congress, he was a classic because they would ask him questions and he would give all kinds of a burbage and so forth and i was looking each other and

say, what did he say? it was deliberate obfuscations. they eventually started laughing at but wasn't a laughing matter. so alan greenspan has been followed by a disciple named ben bernanke and there's been no change. ben bernanke is very insistent on the fact that the fed should not be audited, that have to maintain our independence, and god bless our country. alan greenspan is an interesting man because of the prompting of an american citizen and the philadelphia area years ago he got his congressman to finally go through the fed and say where are you giving authority to do what you're doing. the congressman could not answer the question so he went to the fed and the fed wrote back, alan greenspan wrote this letter back to the congressman transferred to the constituent who wrote it. the last part of it is so instructive here. because he said in a letter

consequently well knows a government may emit bills of credit or make anything but gold or silver or legal tender in piven of debts which is accurate, the federal government is not limited in what may designate as legal tender. okay, now what he is saying there is if we are not prohibited from doing something we can go ahead and do a. that turns the constitution ride on its head. the constitution of the united states empowers government to do very few things, almost all of it is an article one section eight in the constitution. but what has happened is you go to some congressman today, where do you get the authority, he's liable to tell you we are not prohibited from doing it and therefore we go ahead and do it which is awful and part of the problem is so few americans understand the constitution enough to be able to say, hey, that's not what the constitution is about. so alan greenspan said on a lot of them will say banaa putin

printing. but he said it. the federal reserve, where did it come from? first of all, it is an unelected and then you come appointed to its board of governors by the president for 14 terms and i have been awarded completely unconstitutional power to decide the amount of currency, establish the value of the currency, said the interest rates, and create booms and busts. are we ever in a bus right now. yes,. this is all totally unconstitutional power. where did the idea come from? well, this federal reserve is the brainchild of edward mandel house, president wilson's top riser. he wrote in his 1912 book that he was working for socialism as jane doe by karl marx. this man house lived in the white house. he was president wilson's top man. wilson said of him coming use the first man i see every morning, the last and i see every night before i go to

sleep, and house was a brilliant manipulator. you would suggest something to wilson and then a few days later wilson would remember that he thought about this for a while and came up with this -- mr. president, that's a wonderful idea. go ahead with that. it was house who later founded the council on foreign relations. that is a story in itself. now, there were a few people in 1913 who saw the danger. senator henry cabot lodge of massachusetts, sr., this bill seems to me to open the way to invest inflation of the currency. read on, he knew it and could see a. charles lindbergh, father of the famous aviator was a congressman from minnesota, he said this new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation. again, right on. we move ahead in 1968 and we see the democrat from texas named it right packman of the chairman of the house banking committee.

look what he said it -- in the united states today we have in effect to governments, the duly constituted government then we have an independent uncontrolled and uncoordinated government and the federal reserve. .. we have a trust fund. people think that for all of the money that you put in the social security, that is in a drawer, they will start taking money out of my drawer and giving it to me. forget it. that is not so. why do i say that? when the social security signal was being challenged, the first challenge made it to the supreme

court in 1937. in 1937, the supreme court said the proceeds of both employer and employee taxes are to be paid into the treasury like any other internal revenue generally, and are not earmarked in any way. there never has been a trust fund with any money in it. there is a trust fund with a lot of ious in it, but there is no money in it. here is the communist manifesto. plank to -- a heavy progressive income tax. we have it. 0.5 -- centralization of credit in the hands of the state by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. we have it. it is called the federal reserve. marx said "in the hands of the state," and we have gone further. we have put it in private hands

-- unaccountable private hands who do not want to be audited, even though 300 congressmen in the current congress signed a bill and actually passed it in the house, that ordered -- that audited the federal reserve. that was taken out in a conference bill. a conference call and the fed remained an audited. let me stop a second here and tell you in 1989 i wrote an article in what was called the birch law. i used to a weekly column called the virtual. the title of the is audit the federal reserve. 1989. people think that ron paul and the movement that he started are the only ones that have ever considered this. well, sometimes we say the john birch society is a little ahead of the curve. and yes, it still does.

so playing two of the communist manifesto, plank 10, for education for all children in public schools. know, government schools. the government schools are not going to teach what i'm teaching. the government schools are dumbing down america. this edition of the communist manifesto that we show here is in german. you'll note that karl marx name does not appear on the cover. he was insignificant. he was a hired hack of a group of people who wanted very much to have this kind of control over people so that they could build total government. marx is now a great hero to everybody, everybody in school has heard of marx, very few people have heard of real solid good economists, and so forth. that's part of the reason why they took control of the public schools. income tax fax.

here's an income tax return. you have all seen that i'm sure. the hating here. what about it? karl marx one of the income, we shall not. and accounts for 40% of government revenue. where do they get the rest? they get from printing and they get it from borrowing. who do they ball from? now they borrow from communist china. and they borrow from japan. and they put our neck in a news, our nation's neck in the news and it continues to tighten, put it that way. i'm in favor of abolishing an income tax. but i would not want to see the income tax abolished overnight without a great deal of government spending been reduced first. i would not want the more chaos. there's something about the irs that is very important to know. and that is with his police like powers it is effectively a

people control agency. i've run into a lot of americans who say you people are doing a good job, you john purse, you do if i job, but i can get involved that i'm afraid the irs will come after me. people control. right. people fear and irs audit and do not speak against what they know is wrong. here's some amazing admissions. this is the front page of the "new york times," november 26, 2008. this is right in the middle of everything is going crazy. we have to have standards, we have to have this, we have to have that, everything else. look what this man wrote. in his very first sentence he said they would need to print as much money as needed. front-page "new york times." i thought the man would be fired. what happened? march 9, 2009, only a few months later another article by the same man, fed will inject 1 trillion more to aid the economy. and the second paragraph he said

as a way of getting more dollars into the economy, i tactic that amounts to creating vast new sums of money out of thin air. that man is no longer writing for the "new york times." in fact what is going on here with all of the creation of money that's going on, they are giving thin air and a bad name. you can find in us if you know what your looking for. this is a graph put together by a branch of the federal reserve out of st. louis. the federal reserve has branch banks around the country, san francisco and denver and chicago and new york, new york is the big one. new york is the one that really runs the show. this group let out this graph. when did they put it out? in 2009. and you can see it's the adjusted monetary base, and you can see it is flat through the '20s in the '40s, even during world war ii it hardly

move. then it started to go up as soon as we got taken off the silver certificate, the silver standard, and the gold standard totally by richard nixon in 1971. then it really began to shoot up. if you can see it toward the right there, it has gone straight out. that's the period we're living in right now. it's going straight up, and pretty soon it will go off this chart. this is just a demonstration of what's happening and why, what we think his prices going up, is it really prices going up? it's the value of the dollar going down. here's an interesting proposal. this is john birch society thinking. failing entities should be allowed to fail. [applause] >> and i'm talking about, i'm talking about fannie mae and freddie mac. and even talking about automobile companies.

the people of the united states should not have to bail out failing entities. let's do a little history here and talk about a dollar. has the dollar ever been to find? yes, it was. it was defined in the u.s. mint act of 1792. it was defined as 371.25 grains of silver. that's about three quarters of an ounce. that's the only definition of the dollars that has ever been -- so that means that piece of paper you have in your pocket, or your purse, that says 1 dollar on it, it's a lie. the guy who printed it isn't doing the line. it is not 371.25 grains of silver. that's the only definition. if that definition would be brought back and understood, and a lot of people would begin to say, wait a minute, what's this paper thing, what's this all about? we have to get down to some answers here.

what must be done? first of all, restate the definition of the dollar. get people to understand that a dollar is supposed to be commodity, supposed to be so much silver. that would be very helpful if that would happen. second thing is allow private coinage. right now we have legal tender laws in the united states, and the legal tender laws allow only the federal reserve to be legal tender. federal reserve notes. that's tyranny, right? how about if we have private points? how about if we had a guy starting a minute here, gold and silver and so forth? how about another guy here? and you know what starting to happen, there are places where people are putting out one ounce coins. they are not calling them a dollar however because if they did the feds go after them. i mentioned this to people sometimes and they say, if you allow private coinage there's going to be some people who put

out a one ounce silver coin and it's not also be. a custom base metal in their and they're cheating you. i say good, taken to court. that's what you have a court system for. some people might be defrauded. i say okay, i'll accept that some people might be defrauded if you have private coinage. but if we stay where we are everybody is being defrauded. everybody. and you have no recourse, except to begin to start thinking about a ball should the federal reserve. what else should be done? canceled legal tender laws. yeah, that people, start put out money. it used to be the case. it got stopped. restate the ban on bills of credit. paper money. unbacked paper money. fiat is latin, it means make do. what else? abolish the federal reserve. don't do it overnight. start working toward the.

we've got to. if we don't our country will go down. commit unconstitutional programs, which are the programs that have the federal government so heavily in debt that they have to go to the fed as a print up some more money for us, please. unconstitutional programs, what are those? john birch society maintains is the federal government were limited by what the constitution allows, then the federal government would between% in size and 20% its cost. and i'll never forget being up in montana not too long ago, and i said that. afterwards a great big fellow come down to me and he said, you said 20%. five. okay, okay. he might be correct, i don't know. i've not done the odd thing on this. but the point is what should be abolished? how about the department of education and housing and transportation and energy and health, right? look at what they've done and

now they're turning over the health system of our country to the same people who have failed at everything else. how about foreign aid? wears foreign aid in the constitution? it's not there. finally, and we can cancel the income tax if we terminate the unconstitutional programs. restate in the definition of the dollar, allowing private clinics, canceling legal tender laws, restating the ban on bills of credit, that can all be done very quickly. and should be done. abolish the federal reserve will take a little time, a little determination, a little guts. commit unconstitutional programs, yes, let's start. i remember ronald reagan was going to do with the department of energy and the department of education. he never even tried. he never even tried. he signed up a man to be the head of the department of transportation, i got used to be the governor of south carolina, and the guy was laughing about the fact i'm here to abolish what i'm supposed to take over. and he lasted about a year, and

he said they don't mean and he got out of there and went back to south carolina. okay. and announces, how can all this be explained? the leaders of our country stupid? no. are they ignorant of facts? no. they know what i know. or are they involved in some sort of the design that's leading to total power in the hands of a few? well, you know where i am leaving, right? ic design, right? our leaders aren't stupid. they aren't ignorant of the facts. design equals conspiracy. conspiracy is a secret plot among more than one person for an evil purpose. you've got three of us in any conspiracy. secrecy, more than one person, evil. i believe was going on is exactly that. 1968 doctors explained why it is very good word conspiracy has

become such a lightning rod. he said the first job of conspiracy is to convince the world that conspiracy does not exist. and haven't they done that? and now if you going to start talking to people you know, somebody's going to say you sound like a conspiracy theorist. you're not. you're a conspiracy fact is, and tell them that you are. why should we lose a good word like that? how many years -- we lost the word comrade. we shouldn't have picked it's a good word. but it was appropriated by some people. look what they've done to the word gay today. i know a young lady named gay. she's not so young anymore. she's in her '40s. imagine the problems that she is face because of her name. so conspiracy is the ultimate reason for all of what's happening. you've got a book called tragedy and hope, written in 1966 by george to fester.

and in it he talked about powerful few who have formed the secret society bring all of the habitable portions of the world under their control. what a tremendous undertaking that was. so they founded the royal institute of international affairs in england and similar institutes in various as do many. he said in the united states is known as the council on foreign relations. he said that in his own book. you've got to learn about the council on foreign relations. he said the goal of this secret society, that this is kind of breathtaking, nothing less than to great a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and economy of the world as a whole. wow. what a goal. they become pushed much of it. the system was to be controlled in feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements arrived at in

frequently, frequent private meetings and conference. the trilateral commission, the council on foreign relations, all of it figures. they haven't invited me to any of these meetings. i don't expect to be invited. power of money. rothschild, great banking magnet from germany let me issue and control and nations by that i care not who writes the laws. because they were do what i say. and that's is happening in our country. david rockefeller wrote a book in 2003. on page 405 he admitted that he is part of a conspiratorial apparatus. he said some even believe we, my family, are part of a secret hard-working a best against the best interest of the masses. and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure. oneworld if you will, if that's

the charge i stand guilty and i'm proud of it. amazing. thank you for a little burst of honesty. we recommend the book, the shadows of power. i don't have them here but you can get them through the john birch society. president obama has a new economic team, doesn't he? geithner, summers, boulder, all members of the council. all part of the trilateral commission. same thing. what are these people doing? they are repeating the errors of japan. in the late 1980s, japan was considered an economic model. they even bought rockefeller center. the bubble bursting. the government and took action. is what they did. i've listed this because this is exactly what our country has done, and japan is due in the recession. more than 20 years they cut interest rates, massive public works programs, loans to businesses, increased the money supply, bailouts for companies and banks, numerous a stimulus

packages for the people. i mean, i'm only the president of the john birch society. i'm not the secretary or of the treasury. i know this, so do they. so do they. they actually are doing exactly what japan did. so how do we defeat them? you don't debate him. books and pamphlets, counting the falsehoods are good, but a realization has to be there. the enemy is not an ideology in which men believe. it's a conspiracy in which men participate at a conspiracy must be exposed. lenin said communism must be built with non-communist and. similarly, the conspiracy david rockefeller refer to has to be built with non-conspiratorial self-serving hands. there are very few conspirators. there are a lot of people who go along. for promotions, for salary, for stature, for rubbing elbows and going to cocktail parties, whatever. conspiracy is isa a house of cards and has to be done.

robert welch is a man who founded the john birch society. he started in 1958. he died in 1985. i worked with him for many years. he said in 1975 there is a conspiracy at work, asher as there is a law of gravity. to try to overcome its effects by and its existence is exactly the kind of opposition that the conspiracy has contrived and created for itself. so we stand solidly on our position that the only way to stop this conspiracy is to expose it. yes, and that's why there is a john birch society. what can every american do? you can be informed, inform others. you can read the new american magazine that we put out every second we. you can demand a return to constitutional limitations. you can combat falsehood with truth and openness to keep enjoying the john birch society. even realize that history has always been made by the dedicated few. and then you can praise if it all depends on god, and work as though it all depends on

yourself and do it at the same time. that's what we recommend. y. joined john birch society? lots of reason there. be informed informed, nuts and bolts dedicate 50 years of expense. long list of victory. preserve the constitution. concentration of effort. that's so important it don't everybody go off 75 different directions. except the leadership with some people who have been at it a long, long time. don't reinvent the wheel, and we also examine the routers. so robert welch at the end of his founding meeting in 1958, said the people come join us, and under at the undertaking. and, of course, that's what i says we'll. i want to show you something. the federal reserve recently published all you need to know about money and banking and so forth. and they did it with comic books. here are five -- toy four-page comic book that one is about money. monetary policy, banking, federal reserve system itself.

and the story of inflation. ladies and gentlemen, it's full of lies. it's full of lies. anybody who wants to come get ahold of the federal reserve in new york and they will send you copies. and you can see the lies for yourself. it's amazing. that there it is. i've brought a packet of information. i brought a packet of information. there someone the table back there. there are dvds of the talk i've given you, although not current that it's a couple of years old but it's the same information. a pamphlet that i wrote called dollars and cents. dvds about the immigration problem. dvd about obamacare. there's a new we from her magazine called new reasons to nullify the obamacare program. all this information and a little bit about the john birch society, all in that packet back there on the table.

please, and if you can, you can leave a 5-dollar bill for it, but that's it. so that's it. thank you very much for your attention. i hope it's been helpful to people to understand. [applause] >> i want to thank you. i'm the head of the tea party in california. we are using your materials to educate, and we have been amazed at the tremendous feedback. we do a combination of one of your dvds on the structure of the forms of government. >> that's in the packet. >> and the other is a dollars and cents. >> that's in a packet to. >> and we shall have your link linked to an people, well educated people. people have been at the graduate school with advanced degrees. >> that's part of the problem. i love these people have gone to college. >> exactly. here's my sunday was that standard, an economics major and he said i learned so much from those dvds.

thank you for that. it's been an enormous, and enormously effective tool. >> thank you very much for your testimonial i guess i could say. i didn't pay her for that by the way. [laughter] >> but i might. anybody have a question? right. all right. i hope you understand a little bit more about what money is an about what is supposed to be and how we are being defrauded, because we sure are being defrauded. not only thievery, but inflation can destroy our country. and it's in the process. >> build is a commodity, goes up and down. >> gets caught up, up, a. it's not gone down. >> at times a goes down. >> it goes down because of manipulation. >> how do we protect ourselves to? gold or precious metals are a good store of value. but as far as protecting yourself, there is no alternative to saving the

system. all right, there are people have a cabin up in the woods and they of stored food and they have water and they have this and have a lot of coins and everything else. it ain't going to work. if we lose our freedom, their neighbors will be after them. because they have food and the neighbors don't. there is no alternative to saving the system, and i will be bold enough to tell you that i don't know any other organization in our country and was doing more towards saving the system than the john birch society. >> even if we own our own house, people think you stop paying your taxes, you will see real quick who owns your house. >> i raise a good-sized family. i have a home, i have an 11 home with just my wife and myself. how long before some government comes and says, you've got a lot of room in you. we're going to move more people and with you. that is down the road, yes, that kind of thing can happen. simply taking my home from a can

happen. all kinds of things can happen. there is no alternative to saving the system. >> who is your favorite writer? >> who's my favorite writer? i love what robert welch wrote. i love what some of the founding fathers have written. i've read a few books by good friend of mine named tom woods. he's put out some good books. he's got one called meltdown about the economic prevails. there are plenty of good writers. we have a biweekly magazine, and we've got a lot of different authors in their. you know, we wouldn't publish it if it wasn't some stuff that they're giving us. and we now have people clamoring to write for our magazine, which is a good sign, too. so that's good. you get a sample of our magazine in that packet back there. thank you very much. it's been a delight. [applause]

>> now, a look at ground zero over the past nine years on today's "washington journal." host: the paper had several photographs this morning of ground zero in new york and the current construction that is going on. this is the representational view used on the papers, giving pictures to give the world an update on the structure going on there. david dunlap is joining us from new york. if someone was to go to ground zero, what would they see as far as construction? guest: they would seek to towers. the world trade center is scheduled to rise at the site of the original tower. it is already one-third of the way up to that height. they would also see four world trade center, about six stories.

what they would not seek from the sidewalk but is very important to know is the space underground, including much of the shell of the memorial museum, and two enormous pools that are cited were the original taurus stood that will serve as the memorial. host: why has it taken so long to get to this point, as far as construction is concerned? guest: i do not think it has taken that long. i reject that idea because i think a project of this magnitude typically takes sometimes decades. the times square project has been going on for 30 years. i think the distinction here is that politicians and we ourselves have expectations and the need to both memorialize our terrible loss and to show the world as quickly as possible

that we are resilient and capable of rebuilding. in fact, an ordinary new york mega-project timetable -- ground zero has proceeded at a good clip. host: as far as the towers are concerned, how the different now than they were then? guest: one of the critical differences you can see from around the base is that it will be an extraordinarily fortified building. the core of one world trade center is concrete, including walls up to 5 feet thick. the stairways and elevators are enclosed within these concrete walls, rather than the particle board that separated the core from the outer spaces of the old world trade center. host: aside from the towers themselves, there is the memorial. when is construction expected to be completed?

guest: since 2008, the goal was to get the memorial open by september 11, 2011, the 10th anniversary. what meets my eyes is evidence that will happen. the memorial pools are almost completely clad in their dark granite. pumps are already installed. 16 of the 400 trees have been planted. i think it looks like it is going to make the goal. host: as far as the working pace of getting this done, what are you seeing as far as manpower and hours put into the project? guest: there are 2000 workers on the site any given day. they work to complete two shifts on the day. some were goes on overnight and on weekends. the pace is ramping up continually. in the course of the six or

eight site visits that i did to report on this story, the site changed each time i went there. i saw things i had not seen on my previous visit. host: david dunlap reports for "the new york times." >> saul alinsky is considered the father of community organizing. his book is still used as a blueprint for social change. >> was what a rabble rouser is supposed to be. >> nicholas hoffman writes about him in "radical." >> the c-span network provides coverage of politics, public affairs, non-fiction books, and american history. it is available onel