questions about steven fincher about his past and financial exposure. >> i'm roy harris and i approve this message. >> people are hot for steven fincher. but a watchdog says he may be guilty of a felony. he broke the law hiding hundreds of thousands in debt, won't release his tax returns or explain the mysterious loan. fincher refuses to debate or answer questions but millions of dollars of financial transactions. steven fincher with a felony, hiding from the truth. no wonder he's running away. . .

bo >> it runs to the tennessee, arkansas border. it is traditionally democratic. he is considered a conservative democrat.

on issues, they are not that far apart. >> his party attacks his opponent. we have been helping crime victims. we have been helping children and balancing the budget. it has been accomplished when i have worked with members of the other party. >> this is about two guys. i said i will not reach across the aisle, i am it will not work with nancy pelosi. [applause] but i will work for you guys. i will work with conservatives on both sides. >> the deciding factor in this election will be the degree to which people do not like the

president. i think he is going to be standing out as the albatross around the errand's net. neck.around tharound the hero's both talk about balancing the budget, be more responsible, fighting crime. in that sense there is not a huge gap in their differences. heron has obama on his side. fincher has a more conservative constituency and a more conservative message he is trying to sell. for better or worse, that will bring out a lot of people in west tennessee. >> c-span's local content

vehicles are travelling across the country as we look at the most hotly contested contest leading up to the mid-november elections. for more information, visit our web site, c-span.org/lcv. >> in his weekly address, president obama and discusses his proposal for strengthening the job market. he is followed by house republican conference chairman who urges nancy pelosi to call congress back into session. >> after a decade of hardship for middle-class families and date recession that has cost millions of jobs, we are in a tough fight to put people back to work. winning this fight will not depend on government alone.

it will depend on the innovation of american ought to open doors, on the tribe of small-business owners, on the skills and talents of american workers. these are the people that will help grow our economy and create jobs. but government still has an important responsibility. that is to create an environment where someone can raise capital and start a new company. where ingenuity is pride and folks are rewarded for their hard work. i worked to pass a job passage and make more money available for an entrepreneur. it increased the deductions and defray the cost of starting a company. it gives credit to the people who need it. in the first two weeks since i signed the bill, thousands of small-business owners have been able to get new loans. we need to do more.

one of the keys to job creation is to encourage companies to invest more in the united states. for years our tax code has given billions of dollars in tax breaks that encourage companies to create jobs in other countries. i want to close these tax loopholes. instead, i want to give every business in america tax breaks so they can write off costs of all new equipment by by next year. that will help them expand and hire new people. promoting new ideas and technologies is how we will create jobs and retain our age. i want to provide tax cuts for energy manufacturing right here in america. that is how we will lead the world in this growing industry. these are common sense ideas. when more things are made in america, more people make it in america, where jobs are created in america, more businesses

thrive in america. the republicans want to keep these corporate loopholes opened. republicans voted 11 times to continue to reward corporations to create jobs overseas. that cost taxpayers billions of dollars every year. that does not make a lot of sense. it does not make sense for american workers, american businesses, or america's economy. there is no reason why our tax code should actively reward them for creating jobs overseas. instead we should be using our tax dollars to reward companies to create jobs and businesses within our borders. we should give tax breaks to american small businesses and manufacturers. we should reward the people who are helping lead us into the future. that is how we will ensure american innovation and ingenuity will drive the next

century. that is how we will keep people -- how we will put people back to work. that is what i will be fighting for in the coming months. >> these are difficult times in this nation. families are hurting, american businesses are struggling in the cities and on the forms. the economic -- wherever i go, americans say they are tired of runaway spending. they tell me they are worried that everything they worked for will someday be gone. this week the world rejoiced as 33 miners emerged from the chilean mine. today many americans still trapped. everyday they see washington putting our children and grandchildren deeper in a whole with historic debt. something has got to give. today our national debt stands at more than $13 trillion.

that is more than $44,000 of debt for every man, woman, and child in this country. the stimulus bill -- they said the stimulus bill would keep unemployment below 8%. today the unemployment is at 9.6%. this is the longest time unemployment has been about 9.5% since the great depression. the economy lost another 95,000 jobs in september. millions of people have quit looking for a job. the american people know more spending will not mean more jobs. but the president and democrats in congress are not listening. to add insult to injury, they want to add a tax increase to their failed economic plan. that is right. after months of deficit spending and government takeovers, democrats want to raise taxes again the worst economy in decades.

despite the fact that some in their party were willing to support net tax increase, democrats chose to leave washington to try to save their jobs without allowing a vote. if congress fails to act, every american will see a tax increase in less than 100 days. 88 million taxpayers in the lowest tax bracket will face a minimum tax increase of $503. small-business owners will face higher taxes on income, capital gains, and inheritance. washington, d.c., does not taxed too little, washington, d.c., spends too much. no american should see a tax increase in january and republicans are determined to oppose any effort to raise taxes on any american in this difficult economy.

uncertainty is the enemy of our prosperity. the american people should not have to wait one more day for congress to act to prevent what the largest tax increases in american history to take effect. nancy pelosi should call congress back into session immediately. the prosperity of the american people is more important than the political fortunes of any politician or any political party. this administration suggest that our choice is between the failed economic policies of the president and the failed economic policies of the past. there is another way. last month i joined might house colleagues to unveil our pledge for america. it is a set of proposals that could be enacted today to get federal spending under control and get this economy moving again. the pledge to america calls on congress to immediately cut spending back to pre stimulus, pre belau levels.

-- pre-bailout levels. we can get federal spending under control and reform congress. we can't let the american people keep more of what they -- we can let the american people keep more of what they earn. we will build a stronger and better america. our best days are yet to come. thank you for listening. >> sunday on "washington journal," peter baker on his article "the education of the president." then eileen norcross discusses our research on state pension programs and budgets. after that, ray cookliss and tony norman talk about the

midterm elections and the issues across america. "washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c- span. you are watching c-span, created for you as a public service by america's cable companies. next, remarks by secretary of state hillary clinton on a global leadership and iran's nuclear program. then, bob schieffer received an award. then, gov. mitch daniels received an award. >> next, remarks from secretary of state hillary clinton on u.s. global leadership and a ron's nuclear program. iran's nuclear program. this was at the commonwealth

cl ub >> as you know, secretary clinton has distinguished herself over four decades of public service as an advocate for human rights, skilled attorney, first lady of arkansas and of our great nation, and the united states senator from the great state of new york. [applause] secretary clinton joined the state department in january, 2009, and since taking on this very important post has visited 64 countries around the world, promoting global economic growth, strengthening america's relationships with other nations, and advancing the concept of democracy and civil society. please join me in welcoming secretary clinton.

[applause] >> i will take the blue one. thank you. [applause] good evening. this is such a great treat, personally, to be back in san francisco. it is somewhat disconcerting because this is only the third place in the united states that i have spoken since i became secretary of state. [cheers and applause] the first place, which some may question whether it still is in the united states, is of course, washington, where i have spoken several times, and in hawaii on my way to asia. i have been invited to come to

the commonwealth club many times over the years. i was unable to accept that kind invitation, but i thought it would be an appropriate time for me to have this conversation. i want to thank greg dalton who will soon join me on the stage to ask your questions and all of the officers and members of the commonwealth club. soon join me on the stage to ask your questions and all of the officers and members of the commonwealth club. it is a great treat to see former secretary of defense bill perry and his wife right here in the front row. i welcome them. [applause] and i know, even though i cannot see much beyond the third row, that there are a lot of other friends. i am so pleased to be here with

all of you. mostly, this is going to be a conversation. i wanted to just make a few points. i think it is important to give you a bit of an overview of what we have been trying to do since january, 2009. for me as secretary of state, it is a primary mission to elevate diplomacy and development alongside defense, so that we have been integrated foreign policy in support of our national security and in furthering our interests and values. that seems self-evident when i say it tonight in our gathering, but it is actually quite challenging to do. it is challenging for several reasons, first because the diplomacy of our nation, which

has been, from the very beginning, one of the principal tools of what we do, has never been fully and well-understood by the general public. it appears in the minds of many to be official meetings mostly conducted by men in three-piece suits with other men in government buildings and even palaces to end wars and resolve all kinds of impasses. and of course there is still that element, not only with men any longer, but nevertheless the work of diplomacy is in the traditional mode. it is so much more today. it is also imperative that we engage in public diplomacy, reaching out to not just leaders, but the citizens of the

countries with whom we engage. even in authoritarian regimes, public opinion actually matters. in our interim-connected world, it matters in ways that are -- interconnected world, it matters in ways that are even more important. we have tried to use the tools and technology to in -- to expand the role of technology -- to expand the role of diplomacy. similarly, i have been passionate about what our programs mean around the world, how they represent the very best of the generosity and spirit of the american people. u.s.a.i.d., which was started with such high hopes by president kennedy, did so much good work in the 1960's, 1970's. the green revolution -- the absolutely extraordinary commitment that the united states, our researchers, our agricultural scientists made to

improving agriculture around the world transformed the way people were able to feed themsevles and to -- themselves and to build a future. over time, u.s.a.i.d. became hollowed out, it became truly a shadow of its former self. it became not so much an agency of experts as a contracting mechanism. so, the work that used to be done by development experts housed in the u.s. government became much more a part of contracting out with ngo's here at home and around the world. the identity and reputation of u.s.a.i.d. no longer was what it needed to be. when i came into the office of secretary of state, i sort of followed the example of the

defense department, which has, for many years, conducted what is called the quadrennial defense review. when i was in the senate, i served on the senate armed services committee. i realized what a powerful tool that qdr was, because it provided a structured planning experience internally for the defense department that would then be shared throughout the executive branch, presented to congress, and to the public, and help guide what it was our country would be doing for the next four years when it came to the nation's defense. so i embarked on the first ever quadrennium diplomacy and development review, which will come out by the end of this year. it is quite an undertaking to do for the first time. you have to question all of your assumptions, presumptions, and try to figure out how best to present what we do in the state department and usaid, for which

i am also responsible, and to set forth a vision with strategies and objections -- objectives that will take us where we want to go as a nation. i am also working very hard to make it not just bipartisan, but non-partisan. certainly, our national commitment to defense is non- prison and has bipartisan support in the congress. i want the same for diplomacy and development. one aspect of what we are doing to promote diplomacy and development that is quite new and has special relevance for the bay area and northern california is oru -- our emphasis on innovation and our use of technology. we have been working very hard for the last 20 months to bring into the work we do the advances that many of the companies and

the innovators, entrepreneurs here in california have brought to business, have brought to communications, in particular. innovation is one of america's greatest values and products. we're very committed to working with scientists and researchers and others to look for new ways to wayshearti -- new ways to develop heartier crops or life- saving drugs for lower costs, working for new sources of energy and clean water to improve the living standards of people. social entrepreneurs are using the power of the free market to drive social and economic progress. here we see a great advantage

that the united states has, that we're putting to work in our everyday thinking and outreach around the world. let me give you a couple of examples, because the new communication tools that all of you and i used as a matter of course, are helping to and pat -- are helping to connect and empower civil society leaders, activist, and everyday citizens, even in closed societies. earlier this year, in syria, young students witnessed shocking physical abuse by their teachers. as you know, in syria, criticism of public officials is not particularly welcome, especially when the critics are children and young people. a decade earlier, the students would have just suffered those beatings and silence. -- beatings in silence. the students had the cell phones and internets.

recorded videos and posted them in facebook, even though that site is officially banned in syria. a public bath shot -- the public's backlash was so swift that the government had to remove those teachers from their positions. [applause] that is what the united states and the obama administration is such a strong advocate for the freedom to connect. earlier this year, january, and give a speech about our commitment internet freedom -- i gave a speech about our commitment to internet freedom -- the freedom to freely express your pself, the right of all people to share their views, participate in global debate. i am well aware that telecommunications is not any silver bullet, and these technologies can also be used for repressive purposes.

but, all over the world, we see their promise, so we're working to leverage the power and potential in what i call 21st- century statecraft. part of our approach is to embrace new tools like using cell phones for mobile banking or to monitor elections. we are also reaching to the people behind these tools, the innovators and the entrepreneurs themselves. for instance, we know that many business leaders want to devote some of their company expertise to helping solve problems around the world, but they often do not know how to do that. what is the point of entry? which ideas would have the most impact? to bridge that gap, we are embracing new public-private partnerships that link on the ground experience of our diplomats and development expert with the energy and resources of the business community -- experts with the energy and

resources of the business community. when my first acts was to prop -- one of my first acts was to promote a leader in this area. we have met with government officials and we have met with activist, teachers, doctors, and many more. this summer, an entrepreneur from frontline which designs communication tools for ngo's joined a delegation. he learned one of the biggest problems in the country's rural areas -- injuries and deaths from unexploded landmines. he was a move that he is going back to work with the government, local telecoms, and ngo's on a mobile app that will allow them to report the location of landmines so they

can be disposed of safely. we're bringing together experts from various fields to join us in working on some of these big foreign-policy challenges. last year, we held our first state conference. last week, sherry blair and the cell phone industry around the world -- we convened a group to talk about how to advocate for girls and women to get access to cell phones. the new initiative called mwomen will work to close the gender gap which has kept mobile phones out of reach for 300 million women in low and middle-income countries. [applause] at u.s.a.i.d., we're pursuing market-driven solutions that really look to see how to involve the business community. we have just unveiled a new

venture-capital style fund called "development, innovation ventures," which will invest in creative ideas that we think can lead to game-changing innovations in development. as part of our first-round financing, the fund has already invested in solar lighting in rural you gotta -- uganda, mobile health services in india, and an electric bicycle that doubles as a portable power source. the door is open to each and every one of you. i just met with a group from twitter. i know that there are millions of ideas that are born every day here. if you have a good idea, we will listen. despite all the progress that we have made, we cannot take for granted that the united states will still lead in the innovation race. we're working to foster innovation at home and promote it abroad. president obama has set the goal

of the voting 3% of our gdp to research and gdp-- of devoting 3% of our gross domestic product to research and development and moving our students to the top in math and science. [applause] by 2020, we will ensure that we regain that position that we held for decades, which we hav e lost, namely having the highest proportion of college graduates in the world. we need to make sure that american companies have the incentives they need to keep innovating. companies must be assured if they sell their products around the world, they do so without fear of piracy, that their intellectual-property rights are protected, and after rule of law uprise to everyone equally -- applies to everyone equally. in our efforts, we have been

raising these issues at the highest levels across the globe. but we cannot do this alone. we need your help. one way to contribute is by joining one of the new public- private partnerships i have described. we recently launched a new mentoring program called "tech- women" that pairs accomplished women in silicon bounty -- silicon valley with women in muslim communities around the world. women will spend five weeks gaining skills here in california. i hope that many people will join the program. i urge you to become involved with the social entrepreneurship movement which is proving every day there is money to be made through socially-responsible investment, putting financial and social capital to work is one of our goals. next year, we will host a conference for social entrepreneurs and investors in washington called "socap at

state." most of all, we want to let you know that, when i talk about diplomacy and development in the 21st century, it is not just what i do when i go off to asia or africa or latin america or anywhere else. it is what we all do. i am convinced that it is not only our connections through government that will really chart the course of the 21st century, but, indeed, it is the people-to p-people connections. it is not -- there is not anyone anywhere that does not know that our free, dynamic society, with so many opportunities for people, doesn't in some way holdout both promise and example for them -- hold out both promised an example for them.

whether you care about haiti where we have worked from the very beginning of the disaster there to help with relief, recovery, and now reconstruction, or whether you care about the violence in mexico from the drug cartels, where we're helping put together an anonymous crime-reporting tip line so that citizens can report what they see and learn without fear of being exposed, or whether you care about national treasures like those in iraq that were in danger over the last several years, and we worked with the iraq national museum and blue state digital and google maps and google street view and google to send engineers to baghdad to take 15,000 pictures to create a catalog of antiquities that were in danger of being lost, or

whether you care about empowering people for mobile justice in the democratic republic of congo, the site of some of the most terrific gender and sexual-based violence in the world's history, where we are planning a project to use technology to facilitate justice for survival. whatever it is that you care about, we want you to know that there is a place for you to become involved and work with us at the state department and usaid, because i believe strongly that he you each can play -- that you each can play a role in helping us chart a better future. thank you all very much. [applause] [applause] >> madam secretary, thank you

for coming. welcome to the commonwealth club. you know how to draw a big audience. you have mentioned freedom in your remarks. freedom house is an organization that does an index of freedom around the world. this year, they have actually said there had been four years of decline in freedom around the world, the worst they have seen in the 40 years they have been majoring freedom. they say at the world is free, 25% is partly-free, and 25% is not free. the trend of freedom seems to be going in a not positive direction. >> i think there is a worrisome trend that, despite a lot of the advances that i was just talking about and the tools of communication that have such potential for empowering and liberating people to pursue

their own goals in life, there are some counter-trends. and we see efforts by the government to prevent the access to information that we believe is a fundamental value and freedom. we see governments that believe democracy consists of having won election and that is it -- one election and that is it. so, a lot of the progress that was being made to promote democracy was not firmly embedded in the societies that had no experience with what it means to have a democracy, the habits of the heart, the establishment of institutions from a free press to an independent judiciary and protection of minority rights. we also see that, even in very developed democracies that have

always prized freedom and the right to privacy, there are new threats such as the threat of terrorism that have caused governments around the world to become much more cautious and careful and to try to keep their citizens safe by imposing certain rules and regulations that chip away at an expansive view of freedom. we know there is a lot happening that is worrisome, but i still believe that the -- as opposed to the headlines, the trendlines are positive, but you cannot take them for granted, which is why we're working so hard. >> thomas friedman said there is a correlation with the price of oil and freedom around the world. freedom house says where they

are most troublesome is in the middle east. do you believe petro- dictators influence freedom? is that not a factor? >> i believe there has been a correlation between the hunt for natural resources, primarily oil, and the attitudes taken by governments that have those resources to husband and pr otect them, but i do not think it is just that. there are other aspects of society that are rooted in their own history and culture that contribute to that. it is fair to say that there is a so-called oil curse. when countries discover oil, start marketing that oil, if they are not thoughtful, if they are not visionary, very often it

becomes a small elite that and if it f -- that benefit from it. the benefits are not broadly shared. the progress of democracy and freedom is halted, and the necessity for democracy to deliver services for people, in order to maintain the support for a new democracy, is, unfortunately, diminished. there is certainly a connection in some places more obvious than others. >> you talk about development as a key priority. recently, the united states announced a directive on global development in on market forces, self-reliance. you said that the seven d's were foreign aid and then aid lost it -- you said that the 1970's

were foreign aid and then aid lost its way. >> we need to rebuild u.s.a.i.d. as the premier development agency in the world. we need to have a clear focus of mission. in the president's speech at the united nations a few weeks ago in connection with the millennium development goals summit, the president laid out of focus -- a focus on trying to enhance economic growth, build middle classes around the world because that correlates with stability and increasing political freedom and democracy historically. it also means, though, doing a really hard scrub of u.s.a.i.d. the new administrator and i are working very closely to really

change procurement policies, personnel policies, trying to streamline the delivery of aid. we have 24 different agencies and the our government that provide some sort of aid -- some sort of development aid. it makes it difficult to speak with an authoritative voice in a country and to avoid redundancies. if you are an african woman in a rural part of the country in sub-saharan africa and perhaps you are hiv-positive, you might be able to go one place and get entire trials -- antiretrovirals. you may go to another place and with the u.s.a.i.d. program get your children immunized. you may go to another place to try to get health care for pregnancy and labor and delivery. you may go to another place and

try to get help with your crops -- to get fertilizer and seeds. we have all these parallel structures. the problem is that, if you are an ambassador or the secretary of state, if you call everybody who works either directly for the united states government or on contract for the united states government who is working in development to come together, as i have done in the past, i can guarantee that the people in the room often do not even know each other and rarely work with each other. at some point, that is not a sustainable model. in our own tough budget times, i have to be able to not just speak to the commonwealth club, but also make the case in the american public and the american congress that these investments are in furtherance of our security values and interests and that we're going to be good stewards of those tax dollars. we're looking through the qdr --

the quadrennium diplomacy and development review -- we're looking to start in motion reforms in how we do this business that will actually give us more in back for what we do and be very good -- impact for what we do and be very good stewards of the tax dollars provided to us. >> people talk about cross- agency collaboration. until you change the reporting structure, is it really going to change? >> i will give you an example. one of my priorities and the president's priorities was to figure out how to rationalize and better coordinate what we did to end hunger and promote food security. starting right after i got there, i ask my chief of staff to run a government-wide

process, which meant bringing the department of agriculture in, bringing the millennium challenge corp. in, bringing other agencies that have contacts with people in. we came up with a program we are calling "feed the future." it was hard. i'm not want to sit here and said that it was easily done. it was quite challenging to get everybody in the same room talking about their contribution and how we could better focus what we were doing to deliver results. at the end of the process, we came out with a program that is going to focus on improving agriculture so that people can become more self-sufficient. u.s.a.i.d., the state department, the department of agriculture, and other agencies -- we're working in a collaborative fashion. that is where i met raj shaw. \ -- raj shaw.

he was the designated person to come to these meetings. we're working very hard. bureaucracy is a challenge, no matter where you find it. we're conscious of that. you cannot just turn some key and change things overnight. we have emphasized our feed the future initiatives. we have emphasize better- organizing global health. we have usaid, the state department, health and human services, the center for disease control, all of these other groups that are working on this. we have a third whole of government initiatives on climate change. -- initiative and climate change did we want to change the way government functions, then change the way other governments function, and then deliver services in a way that makes sense to people within their own cultural and political atmosphere.

>> our guest today at the commonwealth club of sovereign is secretary of state hillary clinton. iam greg dalton. -- i am greg dalton. afghanistan is some place where the u.s. is trying to promote economic development and democracy. with a question from the audience -- how do you define success in afghanistan? >> i define it as a stable country that is able to defend itself, and is making progress toward institutionalizing democracy and better services for the people. in order to get to that, we have to work with thte -- the afghan government to build up their own security forces. we're seeing progress in that arena, not enough, but enough to be able to say that we can see a

path forward. we have to help rid certain strongholds of taliban insurgency ifrom interfering wih and preventing the gradual expansion of security and stability. we have to really help the government at all levels understand how better to function. and we have some effective ministries and others that have a long way to go. so, it is a multi-pronged approach that is both, from our perspective, military and civilian. when i became secretary of state, both are military and our civilian efforts were woefully under-researched. we were basically treading water -- under-resourced. we were basically treading water.

you either had to make the decision to try to move toward what i just said is a model that i believe represents excess, or not, and just try to pick off insurgents and leave it at that. it is a very difficult environment for all of the obvious reasons that this audience knows because you follow the news. it is not a hopeless one. it is not a failing environment. it is one that has a lot of challenges that are inherent, and inherited, that have to be dealt with. its culture is not our culture. the way that we have tried to approach the civilian side of the equation is to, number one, increase our presence. upon reviewing where we were, we

had fewer than 300 civilians. most of them were not in the country more than six months at a time. very difficult to build relationships, to mentor, to do the kind of out reach we were seeking. we are now over 1000. they're full-time, very committed experts, from agriculture, health, rule of law, and everybody else. it has been an effort. i will not sit here and tell you that i know what the end of the story will be, but i think that we have made a very effective commitment. we have an increase in -- increasingly effective strategy that we're going to follow through on pierre >> reportedly, the u.s. now has a dual-track -- through on. >> reportedly, the u.s. now has a dual-track strategy.

what are the conditions or expectations of that strategy? what is the endgame to negotiate with the taliban? >> this is an afghan-lead process -- afghan-led process, which we support. we have agreed on two contracts -- reintegration and reconciliation. here's the difference. reintegration is focused on the battlefield and the individual fighter who is ready to go home. we find more and more of those, as reported by our military commanders. these are mostly young men who were either intimidated into joining the taliban or chose to do so through family or a village or because it was a way to make a living. for many years, the taliban paid

a lot better than anything else in afghanistan. this was one of the problems as to why we lost the momentum that everybody thought we were building in the prior administration. there were no real -- there was no real emphasis in helping to employ young men and helping to build security force so that there was a choice. one of the first thing we did -- it does not take much to realize how important it was -- to raise the pay of those who joined the police and army. we began to get many more recruits. in reintegration, if they're willing to leave the battlefield, renounce violence, renounce any connection to al qaeda and agree to abide by the constitution and laws of afghanistan, we will help facilitate their reintegration. reconciliation is more along the lines of the classic negotiant among leaders, the leadership of

the taliban -- classic negotiation among leaders. the leadership of the taliban is looking to see whether or not they are ready to end their fighting. we are just ready to look at that -- at the beginning of that process. you may have seen where afghanistan has established a peace council under a former president, to lay down principles that will guide them in pursuing their discussions with representatives of the taliban. we have the same lines -- they have to renounce violence, give up violence as a means for pursuing their goals. we have to renounce al qaeda -- they ahve to -- have to renounce al qaeda. remember, president bush said if they would turn over al qaeda and bin laden, the united states

would not go after afghanistan. mullah omar would not. we have said that as part of the condition -- you have to reduce -- you have to renounce al qaeda and abide by the constitution and laws. you may have followed some of the recent comments by general petraeus where our military forces have been asked to visit it some of the meetings that afghanistan's -- facilitate some of the meetings that afghanistan's leaders have had. we're really testing the waters on this. it is very challenging because many of the leaders live not in afghanistan, but in pakistan. many of this insurance for the taliban in -- sanctuaries for the taliban in pakistan is where the planning and direction and coordination with al qaeda continues. as part of the review that the president ordered back in

january, '09, we have engaged much more intense the with the pakistani leadership, both the civilian government and the military leadership, and have made it very clear to them that we want a different relationship, but we expect their assistance in going after not just the pakistani taliban who threatens them, but the afghan taliban, the connie mack or -- the haqqani network, and the al qaeda. >> let's talk about the floods that is placed 20 million people. does that put pakistan as a potential failed state or complicate the process of making the regime -- , but if the process, making the regime more vulnerable -- or complicate the process, making the regime more

vulnerable? >> it does not make it a failed state. pakistan has some strong state institutions and some very strong cultural ties. the military is obviously the strongest, best-functioning institution in the country. we have worked hard to support the democratically-elected government, but we have been very frank with them about what they need to do to become an effective government. and, as you saw in the aftermath of the floods, the civilian government was very slow to respond. the military responded as they had after the earthquake of '05. the united states was very much involved in trying to help that relief and recovery effort. what has happened with the flood has set back pakistan's

development. the last time was there -- i was there in july, announced that, as a part of a multi-year aid to pakistan, some infrastructure plans focused on water and electricity that were very needed. now, following the flood, the infrastructure needs are even more pressing -- bridges that have been washed out, agricultural land that has eroded, other kinds of systems like dams that were providing electricity either damaged or destroyed. we're taking a hard look. next week, we will have another meeting of our strategic dialogue with the civilian and needed -- civilian and military leadership with whom we work. i have been really clear with this message to pakistan -- in pakistan as well as outside of

pakistan. united states cannot and should not be expected to help pakistan with its development needs unless pakistanis do more to help themselves and that includes reforming the tax system that does not tax the elite and the landed property class -- pakistan has one of the lowest tax per gdp percentages, 9%, in the world. we are working with them on reforming their tax system. some of the richest people in pakistan pay less than $100 in all taxes. when i was in london -- where was i? -- brussels, yesterday, i was with the newly-appointed high representative of the

european union. we did a press coverage about aid for pakistan. i said and she echoed our expectation that the elite of pakistan do more to help their own country if they expect us to help them. [applause] >> another nearby, also nuclear- armed country -- we have a question about iran. are we closer to engagement or confrontation with iran? >> we are hopefully close to two engagement on their nuclear program. when we started to -- tcloser to engagement on their nuclear program. when we started to put together a set of sanctions that could bite, most people thought we could not get china and russia to go along and we did. then the united states followed with our own sanctions, the european union, japan, and other

countries followed with additional sanctions. from all that we can determine from the analysis of economic activity and political debate within iran, these sanctions are having an effect. therefore, we are hoping that the recent outreach by the iranian government to cathy ashton, who is our representative what is our-- for +3.t is called e3 we hope to get a meeting scheduled. we have not had one for a year. it is by no means clear how seriously the iranians will engage. but if they come back and at least negotiate, that is going

to give us additional insight and information. one of the problems with dealing with iran in additional to the this -- in addition to the historical problems we have had is that there is a lot of debate and division within the government. trying to see them make a decision whether they will negotiate with us illustrates clearly the division between the elected leadership, despite the flawed elections, the supreme leader, the clerical leadership, and, increasingly, the revolutionary guard, which is playing a bigger and bigger role inside iran. we're watching this very closely and working closely with our partners in this process. >> another nuclear question about the s.t.a.r.t. treaty. it has been negotiated. when do you think it will get through the senate?

>> it got through the foreign relations committee on a bipartisan vote, which was very good news. we got three republican votes and all of the democrats. if there is a lame-duck session, we're hoping that the senate could take it up after the november election. we have a broad-based bipartisan support from people like bill perry and george shultz and others who have both written and testified about the benefits of this treaty. it is part of our broader effort to find areas of common interest in collaboration with russia. -- common interest and collaboration with russia. we have also broadened and deepened a strategic dialogue that is trying to build some bridges, not just at the leadership level between president obama and pregnant --

and president medvedev or me and my counterpart, but going much deeper into the government. russia is trying to gain accession into the world trade organization. we're supporting that. russia has opened up its territory for trends it of lethal -- transit of lethal weapons and equipment into afghanistan. russia is working with us on counter-terrorism, counter- narcotics. we're trying to find as many areas as possible while still speaking out about the occupation in georgia and about the repression of human rights inside russia, and other areas where we do not agree. the s.t.a.r.t. treaty is obviously a major result of that collaboration. >> during your confirmation hearings, alaska's senator murkowski asked if it would be a

priority to ratify the treaty which she wholeheartedly supports. what are you doing to support an advance the law of the sea treaty -- and advance the law of the sea treaty? >> it is one of the most important treaties that we need to ratify. we ratified -- we prioritized the s -- the s.t.a.r.t. treaty this year. we will prioritize the law of the sea treaty next year. it is critical to our credibility in working with nations in southeast asia are questions regarding china's activities in the south china sea -- over questions regarding china's activities in the south china sea. it is so much in america's interest. the objections to it are just not well-founded. i'm hoping we will be able to get a hearing on it early in the year and a vote on it as soon

thereafter as possible. as things stand now, it is more difficult for us to deal with what are becoming increasingly pressing maritime issues, both in freedom of navigation and in the exploitation of the seabed for -- searching for everything from oil and gas to minerals and all that else may lie there. i am hoping we get to it earlier next year -- early next year. >> another international issue -- the alberta clipper, a pipeline from alberta that brings tar sand into the midwest. it is some of the dirtiest of fuel in the world. how can the u.s. be saying climate change is a priority when we are mainlining some of the dirtiest fuel that exists?

[applause] >> well, there has not been a final decision made. >> are you willing to reconsider it? >> probably not. [laughter] but we have not finished all of the analysis. as i say, we have not yet signed off on it, but we are inclined to do so. we are, for seven reasons -- going back to one of your original questions -- we're either going to be dependent on dirty oil from the gulf or dirty oil from canada. until we can get our act together as a country and figure out that clean, renewable energy is in both our economic interest and the interest of our planet -- [applause] i mean, i do not think it will come as a surprise to anyone how

deeply disappointed the president and i are about our inability to get the kind of legislation through the senate that the united states was seeking. now, that has not stopped what we are doing. we have moved a lot on the regulatory front for the epa here at home. we have been working with a number of countries on adaptation and mitigation measures. obviously, it was one of the highest priorities of the administration for us to enshrine in legislation president obama's commitment to reducing our emissions. so, we do have a lot that still must be done and it is a hard balancing act. it is a very hard balancing act, but it is also -- for me,

energy security requires that i look at all of the factors that we have to consider whiel we -- while we try to expedite as much as we can america's move toward clean, renewable energy. the double disappointment is that, despite china's resistance to transparency and how difficult it was for president obama and i to drive even the copenhagen agreement that we finally got by crashing a meeting of china and india and brazil and south africa -- >> would have liked to see that one. >> yeah, that was something. china did sign up. they are making enormous investments in clean energy. if we permit that to happen,

shame on us. [applause] it is something that the united states should be the leader in the pit is one of the ways -- should be the leader in. it is one of the ways we can stimulate jobs. it is a small window into the dilemma we are confronted with. >> let's stay with china for a minute. the currency is not where the u.s. would like it. there has been some appreciation recently according to secretary geithner air. -- geithner. liu xiabao recently won the nobel peace prize. where do you want to go before the state visit? >> there is going to be a state visit. this is another example of our efforts to balance many competing interests.

we have committed to working toward a positive, cooperative, comprehensive relationship with china, which is certainly in the interest of cooperation on so many issues in the world today. we continue to speak out in this agreement with -- disagreement with the treatment of the dollar and, -- of the dalai lama and tibet. we continue to speak out in defense it -- in disagreement on providing capabilities to taiwan. we also speak out on human rights. we work very hard to have china on the side of sanctioning north korea and iran. working to implement those sanctions, participating in the international effort against piracy, looking for ways to

partner on clean energy, and finding some opportunities to work on development in africa, where china has many contracts in the exploitation of natural resources. we want to try to better find ways to assist the people in those countries by working together. it is a constant balancing act. there is no either/or. the relationship with china is and will remain a core, americanfocus of foreign policy for as long as i can see into the future. we support china's peaceful rise. we want china to be responsible member of the skin -- of the international community. i thought one of the most historically-significant actions

that just occurred was the statement by communist party elders in favor of greater freedom of expression inside china. there is no way the united states can force the kind of internal changes toward greater openness, democratization, respect for human rights that, of course, we would like to see. we can advocate for it, but ultimately it is going to have to be motivated and directed by people inside. and there will be a day of reckoning, just as there will be on the currency, that pursuing a policy of devaluing your currency is not a long-term strategy for economic success. trying to have economic freedom and growth without accompanying political openness is just a

recipe for an interval collision. -- internal collision. there are lots of trends that we can look at and see moving slowly but inexorably in the right direction. we have to continue to support that and at the same time take a very realistic view about what we can actually accomplish in the here and now that will improve security and deal with some of the immediate threats such as iran's nuclear program. >> we're close to the end of our time. we have a number of questions about mexico -- the gang and drug violence there. they're about to go from being an oil exporter to being an oil importer. what can you do about mexico, as our next-door neighbor? >> i care deeply about mexico. i am extremely impressed by the courage of president calderon in

taking on the drug cartels. [applause] this is one of the most difficult fights that any country >> we saw over the past couple of decades in colombia. we are watching drug-traffickers undermine corrupt governments in central america. we are watching the brutality of their violent assault on mayors and governors, the press as well as each other in mexico. it has been one of my highest priorities and we have worked closely with the mexican government to assist them in ways that they have requested. i went to mexico shortly after becoming secretary of state and said what i believe which is that the united states the responsibilities for the

violence that is plaguing mexico. [applause] our insatiable demand for illegal drugs, our unwillingness to crack down on thousands and thousands of weapons being trafficked across our border into mexico. [applause] i think it is an obvious thing to say, and i get criticized for it, but for the first time the united states was coming to mexico not to tell mexico what to do, but to say that we have a problem, not you. we have a problem. we want to help you deal with this very serious problem for the safety of your citizens and

the stability of many local governments. we are working hard. it is not just a question of providing blackhawk helicopters, which we have promised to do, or better equipment for the police. it is also helping them build the judiciary. build a correction system that can actually keep the criminals end once they are,. -- em, once they are caught. -- in once they are caught. they do not have a national police force. the are moving towards that under the president's leadership. every american should support what the government of mexico is trying to do and send a very clear message that we will be their partners and that they do need to win this struggle

against the drug traffickers. you cannot accommodate the drug traffickers. what has happened is that these drug cartels are now taking on the attributes of a lot of the insurgent and terrorist groups that we see elsewhere around the world. for the first time, mexican drug gangs are using car bombings that you would see in iraq or pakistan. you see them being much more organized in a kind of paramilitary way. one of the most violent of the drug gangs are former special forces members from the mexican army that won over to the dark side. -- went over to the dark side. this is of huge consequence to the united states. not just in our border, but foreign to our nation. i am glad that you asked me

about that because i think that there is so much more that we can do to help mexico. we are looking for ways that mexican-americans can be of help as well. i am going to will something like that out early next year. -- will something like that out early next year. -- will something like that out early next year. -- roll thing like that out early next year. there are so many ways that we can influence what goes on in other countries through technology. like i said, the anonymous crime tips line that we are helping mexican authorities set up. remittances to south america and africa and places in asia are often the biggest source of foreign aid. we just rolled this idea that we

unveiled at the united nations along with honduras and el salvador, which is to leverage the remittances to assist in infrastructure building in countries that are so dependent on remittances coming from the united states. we are coming up with lots of ideas. please take this as an invitation. let us hear from you about any thoughts that you have about helping us tackle this complex problem that we face. the good news about communications technology is that we can communicate. the bad news is that we know what is going on everywhere and there is no escape from it. it is not like i can just deal with the biggest countries in the world and call it a day. we know what is going on in every corner of the world and that requires that the united engaged across the

globe. you think that with virtual communications, our jobs might be easier, but in fact, it is more demanding. because of what we know and what we are called upon to try to do for the world. >> before we close, i want to remind you to please stay in your seats until secretary clinton has the part occured want to take those that pull this together. we have been camped out here for most of the week. the hotel staff has been fantastic. thank you all for making this possible. your staff is giving us the hook. i do not know if you have time for a question from a 10 year old and the audience? >> absolutely. this has been fun. >> i am 10 years old and and

concerned about the environment. what can i do to help? >> hi, ellie. i think that there is a lot that you can do. it has been my experience that young people are much more environmentally conscious and committed to protecting the world they are growing up in than some of us older people are. therefore, working on projects in your school, asking questions like this of people like me who talk about priorities for our country. i think that it is important to work with the environment that is right in your area. there are lots of ways and lots

of projects that young people are doing to set an example for what can be accomplished. i am out of politics, as you all know. the secretary of state is not involved in any political activity. certainly, not elections. speaking as a private citizen -- [laughter] [applause] >> i think that people running for office should be asked to explain their position in what they are willing to do -- are going to do. [applause] i know that from what i read in the newspaper these days, there are a lot of frustrations and anxieties and even anger in our country right now over

unemployment, over a feeling that our government is not working. there is a lot of concern. it is very real. i hope that people take some of that energy and focus it on the environment and on climate change because we really do have to have a longer range of view of what is foreign to make our country strong and rich and smart. [applause] i have no doubt that the united states, and i obviously believe that president obama is policies are going to be borne out and demonstrate their effectiveness. [applause] we did not get into the problems we are in today over night. we got into them over time.

we can get out of them. we cannot get out of them if we are not thinking, if all we are doing is reacting in being upset and mad and looking for somebody to blame instead of working together. that will require a renewal of american partnership about solving the problems that we face and not pretending that they are ignored or resolved in any easy way. i am hoping that your question will be on the minds of everybody. clearly, the air that we breathe, the water we drink, the food that we eat is all connected to our environment. it is up to us to give it to you in as good a shape as it should be. >[applause]

i think the -- >> i would like to thank the secretary of state for being here today. thank you all for coming. i hope you will come and see us again. [applause] >> please stay in your seats. >> in a moment, the national press club honors bob schieffer. then another awards dinner with governor mitch daniels receiving an award. after that, a discussion on the possible ramifications of an upcoming summit on plans for a transatlantic nestle defense system.

-- missile defense system. >> sunday on newsmaker"," she loved bair on how the fdic seized the foreclose a situation. she also talked about the dog/frank financial regulation law and future threats to the financial system. she is interviewed by deborah solomon. watch "newsmakers" day at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern on c- span. >> q&a sunday, justice stephen briar. >> it is sometimes hard to avoid your basic values, how you see the country. how you see the relationship between law and the average person and what you think lott is about. those basic, fundamental, legal, and political values are part of you and they will sometimes influence an approach

where the question is very open and where it admits to that kind of thing. >> supreme court justice stephen briar and his new book, sunday night on c-span. >> next, the national press club honors cbs news correspondent bob schieffer with its annual for the state award. it is given to members of the press in recognition of lifelong contribution to journalism. we will hear remarks from senator lindsay gramm, sean mcmanus and former senator sam nunn. this is a little more than an hour. >> we are enjoying the meal. we are thinking our servers -- we are thinking -- thanking our servers. we want to have as much time as possible for some music and this evening, so we will get our formal program started right about now as you finish up your meal and get going with your

desserts. bob has the black hat on. we know we mean business, now. we are here to honor the career of one of washington's greatest journalists. for nearly four decades, bob schieffer has proved that excellence is by no means incompatible with warmth, good humor and good music. combining sharp questioning with knowledge and dignity, bob has made himself one of the most trusted broadcasters in america. in doing so, he has made himself a natural -- and natural heir to an honor that first went to walter cronkite at this club 47 years ago. it is an honor that has gone to several of our guests tonight. i would first like to acknowledge previous fourth estate award winners that are joining us in the audience tonight. austin kipling year, the

longtime dynamo. [applause] political columnist william raspberry is in the house. i just saw him into the building, so i know that david broder is here. [applause] and longtime white house correspondent helen thomas. [applause] also, we are pleased to welcome several other important guests. first of all, we have several former presidents of the national press club of washington press club. what all of the stand for a moment, please. -- please? [applause] thank you for your

acknowledgement. the current generation of press club leadership is represented as well. with the members of the board of governors and our officers please rise? thank you. we certainly want to a knowledge of the widow of a name that embraces our library here the national press club. where is it? -- where is edith? [applause] theght's dinner benefits national journalism library. do not let that distract you from the feast that you are enjoying or the desert that you will be having. now, we are coming to the part of the program.

our first section is a video. we will start with a video that shows us some highlights from bob's career. it is a video that really shows why we are here tonight. >> please welcome bob schieffer. >> long before he took the stage for this crowning moment of glory -- align >> can i say something? i am bob schieffer and i am proud to be on the grand ole opry. i am going to sing you the story of my life. >> bob schieffer had a legendary career. is there anyone who has not heard how it all began? with a hungry reporter at the fort worth star-telegram. >> i picked up the phone and answer it and a woman asked if there was anybody that could

give her a ride to dallas. i said that this was not a taxi service and the president has been shot. she said that she had heard it on the radio. she said that she thinks that hers -- that her son may have done it. in the four decades since, he has witnessed all the big moments. >> bob schieffer, cbs news at the national championships in what bill maryland. >> that report did not receive rates back in taxes. his mother called and asked him to start covering real news. he did. on capitol hill, at the pentagon, at the state department and at the white house. it was there in 1974 as reports circulated that president nixon would soon resign and leave the white house because of watergate that our intrepid correspondent thought he had a huge scoop. >> a moving van has pulled up to the white house.

members of the crowd began to applaud when he did. >> bought -- bob had an exclusive. he is almost never had a loss for words. while there was at one time that he struggled to explain the ken starr report. >> the president was on the telephone, according to her, he unzipped his pants and exposed himself and they had sex. >> he has covered all the major beats in washington and he has anchored a renews broadcast that cbs. he returned to washington in 2006 where he continues to question all of the top newsmen. >> how are you? >> i am fine.

>> he sometimes even offers his own suggestions. >> if you should become speedster -- speaker, you can set an example by saying that you would stop smoking. maybe the two of you could find a way to stop smoking. that would be a good thing, wouldn't it? >> i appreciate your suggestion. >> it seems that bob has interview just about everyone in politics and government. he is always trying to develop new sources. a task that he seems to enjoy. he is hard to be on a story, but on rare occasions, his star has been eclipsed. for example, at the 2008 debate, a guy that was not even there stole the show. >> joe plummer. >> joe the plumber. >> to the plumber. >> it is that the best you can do?

>> he is never afraid to embrace even a flawed and new technology. i never thought we would have a blimp shot. >> it does not get any better than that. >> bob would be the first to tell you that. >> from cub reporter to broadcast eikon, from country music to his love, no one has had more fun than bob schieffer. though he absolutely refuses to act his age, he is beginning to look more like a senior statesman. [applause] >> bob, is a thrill to learn

more about you tonight an. that video did not tell us everything that we need to know about bob. we need to hear from people that know him most. we now turn to the co-chairman of the nuclear threat initiative, a fund topic -- a funny topic. former senator sam nunn, democrat of toward job and bob schieffer go along way he is -- a long way. he is a long-established washington wiseman. tonight, he be more of a wise guy. senator nunn, welcome to the national press club. [applause]

>> thank you very much. members of the press club, reliable sources, congratulations bob on receiving what all of us know it is a prestigious fourth estate award. frankly, it is long overdue. for many decades, bob schieffer has been poised on the brink of accurate and honest reporting. [laughter] i am honored to join lindsay and sean under this roast mandate, but i have to ask, where is the balance? [laughter] lindsay, thanks for taking the risk this evening. bob, i hope that you and pat and your family will your slings and

arrows in their proper perspective. this reminds a of a conversation that happened years ago with my senate colleagues and dear friend russell long and his wife. russell was the son of louisiana governor and senator huey long. my wife and i were having lunch with russell and his wife shortly after calling had seen blaze".ie "the bl she was a movie star and an attractive dancer and stripper in real life that have been strongly linked to russell's eccentric father. we asked again if he had seen the movie and we also asked

russell if it was really about his uncle earl. russell stoddard a little bit and said yes. he said that it pretended to be fiction, but it was really about uncle earl. i cringed and try to keep my wife under the table, but i saw that another question was coming and i only encouraged her. was all that bad stuff about your uncle earl true she asked? he said that they said a lot of terrible things in that movie and some are outright lies, but they missed a lot, too. he was willing to college even. -- call it even. [laughter] so, bob, we will probably miss a lot tonight, but i hope that you and pat will be willing to call it even. tonight, we certify that bob schieffer is a legend in the

eyes of his peers. [applause] i believe also in the eyes of the american people. webster defines a legend as an and verify the story handed down from ancient times -- and unverified story handed down from ancient times. his story started from humble beginnings in a texas town is so small and so in the country that even the episcopalians play with snakes. [laughter] in spite of his surroundings, bob was quickly identified as a precocious child. mainly because each time his family moved to a different location, little ball was always able to find them. -- bob was always able to find them. [laughter] as his brother, tom, said to his

biographer, "bob was a cunning little bastard." [laughter] that explains bonds -- bob's career choice. in college, bob also graduate -- gravitated towards journalism because he loved reading treatable others were partying in college, he read every night until his lips were exhausted. [laughter] being from texas was always a big evanish for bob. from the very beginning of his work as a reporter for the "fort were -- for worth star-telegram ", he came up with his model that he has used all these

years. that same texas experience even gives small and advantage over younger reporters in today's political turmoil. because he knows that the two y's issues are nothing new. bob decided long ago that politicians are like diapers. they have to be changed often and for the same reason. [laughter] [applause] bob has a keen instinct for what the american voters are really insisting on an hungering for this year, to get rid of the democrats.

without bringing back the republicans. [laughter] bob became a cbs anchorman when it finally dawned on him that the anchorman's job was simply to explain to millions what he personally does not understand. [laughter] he also became a tough cross examiner on "face the nation" because he learned early on in texas that it is hard to tell someone is telling the truth because if you were in their position, you would live. that brings us to the question that all of bob's friends have been wondering about for years. how was he able to persuade the beautiful and charming and brilliant pac-10 rose to marry him? -- pat pinrose to remain with

him all these years? decades ago, bob went through his midlife crisis. after being married for almost 25 years and becoming a highly paid cbs superstar, bob was really feeling his oats. he looked at pat one day and said that 25 years ago, we have a cheap apartment, drove a cheap car and slipped on a sofa bed and watched a 10 in. black-and- white tv, but i got to sleep with a hot 25 -- year-old girl and now we have a multi billion dollar home, a $70,000 car and a king size bed and a big screen tv and i am sleeping with a 50 year-old woman. it seems to me that you are not holding up your side of things. as a reasonable and devoted wife, she replied, "bob, one of you go out and find a hot 25 -- year-old girl and i will make

sure that you will soon again be living in a rundown apartment." [applause] [laughter] driving a cheap car, sleeping on a sofa bed and watching a black- and-white tv. [laughter] this may not be completely accurate, but as they say at cbs, it is too good to verify. [laughter] from this midlife crisis for word, bob gained a different perspective. of course, bob is now known as a unique, down to earth, one of us anchormen. most journalists in his position each day have to choose between honest arrogance and

hypocritical humility. a body has remained modest with good reason for the past has a way of continuing to get bob to climb down from his pedestal, including from even his most coveted recent crowning achievement, becoming a star songwriter and singer. when bob was asked to perform at the grand ole opry in 2008, he explained to pat, "did you ever imagine in your wildest dreams that i would become a star at the grand ole opry? that thought a moment and said, "bob, honey, you have never been in my wildest dreams." [laughter] [applause]

i am told that cbs polling data indicates that pat was speaking for the majority of women. since his appearance at the grand ole opry, bob seems to have become a sex symbol for women who no longer care. [laughter] which reminds me of his only real critic, bill reilly. bill has been a little rough on bob lately, but last night i think he went too far on his blog. quoting mr. o'reilly,"this just then, i have the lyrics from bob schieffer is latest song, which he has tried desperately to keep secret so that he can

unveil it if he ever gets invited back to the grand ole opry. here they are, folks. it reveals a lot about his background and his character. susie lead fell in love and planned to marry joe. she was proud and happy and told her father so. but her father said shall have to choose another. rather not know your mother not know, but joe is your half- brother. so susie planned to marry will, but when she told her father, he said there's trouble still. he said don't tell your mother, but will and joe and several more, i know your half-brother. but mama new and mamma said, do what makes you happy. mary will or mary jo because

kin to pappy. this concludes my serious remarks. now, a couple of observations about the bob schieffer that we know and love. t.s. eliot said many years ago -- he asked two questions which are more relevant today than they were then. where is the knowledge we have lost in information and where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? every day, bob schieffer uses information to help the american people gain knowledge and wisdom in the 24/7 information age and the era of bumper sticker politics, bob manages to bring principal and intellectual integrity to his profession.

bob schieffer has spent a lifetime helping americans get the facts that they need, to weigh the challenges facing our nation and to judge the action of our leaders. in the final analysis, bob has earned this fourth estate award because he has all the qualities he would hope to have in a journalist, courage, compassion, integrity and commitment to the truth. thank you, bob, for your leadership and our longstanding friendship and congratulations on this well-deserved award and thank you, pat, for keeping bob at our level. [applause] >> thank you so much senator nunn. are you finding it liberating to not be an office anymore and be able to tell it like it is?

someone who still is an office and giving us the republican perspective on bob schieffer is senator lindsay gramm, the republican from south carolina. he has served the state since 2003. ever since, he has earned the reputation of being one of the senate's most active and choral numbers. so, senator gramm, what about bob? [applause] >> you never know that that guy is in print, would you? good job. [laughter] he told me five minutes at off the record and nobody would be here in portent -- important. you're about to see the difference between current senator and a foreign -- a former senator. [laughter]

obviously, this does not take a lot of your time if you can write all that stuff. to my tea party friends, you're not missing a damn thing. it is friday night and it is two weeks before the election. what do we all have in common? a love of bob? no, we have no lives. i always wondered how bob chose me to be the republican speaker until i started thinking about the republicans. who was he going to pick? he could have chosen from a talented group of people with much diversity. a real deep talent pool. he could have chosen any angry white guy in the country, but he chose me.

a lot of them would love to be here just to tell all of you to go to hell. look to the passed over to get to me. sunshine jim bunny. a man with a soft touch and charm. the sparkling and charismatic jim in half who loves mother nature. finally, our leader, mitch mcconnell, who said no even before he got the invitation. [laughter] why stop a successful strategy now? he had a lot to choose from and he chose me. i am grateful. this is the night of your opponents dream of. -- that your opponents dream of. where is the fox table?

i did not think so. [laughter] everything you hear about them is true. he could have chosen any democrat in the world. what democrat would not want to be at an event with y'all honoring bob schieffer? they would have jumped at the opportunity, but he chose sam nunn and that says all that you need to know about the modern democratic party. [laughter] apparently, there are no acceptable democrats that serve after the fall of the berlin wall. [laughter] sam, you are a good man. your a good mentor. i guess that means that you are old. when i grow up, i want to be just like you. look who bought passed over to pick sam, al franken, the iota

of the senate -- the yoda of the senate. the inventor of the internet, al gore. but you did choose me and i appreciate it. if i thought that it would be this big of a deal would have thought about more about what i would say. as it has been mentioned, bob is a legend. if you have any doubt, just ask him. he went to texas christian university. a great school where you love jesus or else. [laughter] bob, how does it feel to be the most famous corn fraud in america -- horned frog in america? who the hell of that as your mascot?

as sam said, bob is a -- as a young man showed a lot of promise he was a rising talented or vetoed -- horney toad. he is a true journalist. he entered the profession before good looks did not matter. as you can see from these clips, the things that i studied in history, he actually did. i'm just trying to do what he did. sunday talk is the last place you can have a good discussion. do you agree with that? it really is. bob's style of interviewing is something to behold and is becoming a lost art.

his inquisitive style makes a larry king look like a fastball pitcher throwing natcher head -- throwing at your head. bob like that. that was good. -- bob like that. that was the. he came from being a young horney toad to being a dean of an institution. that's another way to say that you are older than dirt. there are a lot of people that want to be like bob when they grow up. there are a lot of politicians in america who should want to be like sam nunn. we are two weeks away from a big election. if you were watching television, would you even know that we are at work? have you heard one commercial

about whether or not we should stay in afghanistan or whether we should leave? have you heard any serious exchanges about what happens to the world if iran gets a nuclear weapon? two weeks away and before we get done having our son tonight, most likely, some young american will have lost their life in afghanistan or iraq. what i like about you, bob, is that you do not let america forget the things that we need to be thinking about. i watch you not to listen to blowhards let me, and the reason i and nicer to you than sam is because i want to be on your show again. it [laughter] i am going to be on sunday. i watched the show for that last minute. -- i watch the show for that last minute. [applause]

speaking of impeachment, i did everything but the food channel back then. [laughter] there was a time when there seemed there was no way out and the whole place was collapsing around here and i listened to bob and he said that this is tough, challenging and i am not sure impeachment is the right answer, but we will are going to make it. this is a strong country and the senate will do its will and we will pick up the pieces and move on. that affected the impeachment management. you do not know how that affected the guy actually doing it because i was one that wanted to pick up the pieces and move on. two weeks ago, you said something about one of the most contentious issues of the moment. this group that wants to protest at funerals of slain

soldiers. god knows that we need to protect the first amendment. the people that know with the best of the slain soldiers. but bob was able, in about 30 seconds, to do something that no judge could ever hope to do. explain it. explain what the first amendment means. there has to be some limit. there has to be balance in this world, even when it comes to the first amendment. [applause] when bob schieffer said, "that just doesn't seem right, that tear theogroup could heart of the father while he is at his son's grave." i am for eliminating the death tax for children. in conclusion, i do not think i

have said anything that will create a campaign commercial for me to i was honored that you picked the but you did not have a lot of choices. -- picked me, but he did not have a lot of choices. as long as bob schieffer is talking to america about what is going on, i feel like we are in good hands. you deserve the award. [applause] >> thank you, senator gramm. nobody knows more about us in our workplace that our bosses and for that reason, we are very loud that sean mcmanus -- very glad that sean mcmanus is here. let's see where this is going. also the president of cbs news

and cbs sports. when bob said he wanted to retire, sean mcmanus said that he should stick around for the one last campaign. with words of wisdom for all of us, >> welcome sean mcmanus to the national health club -- let's welcome sean mcmanus to the national press club. [applause] those are too tough act to follow. congratulations, bob. when bob first asked me to do this backing jr. wary, i did not hesitate for a second to say yes because i figured he would not make it until october anyway. [laughter] i am not going to stand here and do a lot of old age jokes because i think that would be really inappropriate, but i did

some research into bob's background and i was amazed to learn that he started his career as a copy boy at the herald tribune. i know you were a young man, but your coverage was unbelievable. looking at bob's present, it is amazing that he has covered the horrors of the vietnam war, the kennedy assassination, the atrocity of 9/11. he is a real barrel of laughs, isn't he? i have an e-mail that bob sent me when he invited me to speak here tonight. when i got it i was honored for it i thought i would read it to you tonight. i thought that i would friend this in my office for the rest of my life. it said, dear sean, i would be honored if you would rest me on october 14 at the national press club. you're my first and only choice from cbs, so i am asking you

weigh in advance so you can clear your schedule. there is no more corporate or fitting person i can think of to possibly handle this task. i thought that was really nice. there were two other evils follow that pattern not think bob intended -- e mails below that that i do not think bob intended -- [laughter] the first is from our boss. dear bob, i cannot thank you enough for asking me to be one of your roasters at the press club dinner next october. i really appreciate the fact that you were the only one at cbs to consider asking. unfortunately, i have a cbs board meeting that week. might i suggest that you ask sean. on top of that there was a note from bob schieffer.

>> dear leslie, thank you for your reply. i am sorry that you cannot join me and your suggestion that i ask sean. i am much more inclined to invite charlie osgood or even- steven croft. [laughter] i want to make -- i want to thank you for making your fourth choice. on a more serious note, bob has been the epitome of a perfect gentleman at cbs. selfless and really only interested in what is best for cbs news. when it came time for him to relinquish the anchor chair to katie couric, he could not have been more gracious. i wrote down his response when i suggested that he give up the chair. i will paraphrase. there is no f-ing way i will

give up his chair. it is mine and i am not giving it up so get the hell out of here. [laughter] i do not think that bob actually does misdoing the evening news at all. i am not sure that is totally true. pat says that every evening, he goes into the basement and reads the news by himself. [laughter] i also give bob credit for changing with the times. our business has changed a lot in the last few years, especially when it comes to the commercial side of our business. bob has really gotten in tune with all of this stuff. i am told that after a romantic interlude with his wife, he said that this performance was brought to you by pfizer. [moaning]

>> i did not know this was on c- span when i wrote this. i believe that you are still the only guy that i know with a telephone in the bedroom. remember in the 1970's, on a lot of the news, there was a revealing report about the horrifying conditions at willowbrook and nbc looked at the california prison system and bob decided to do a similar story. he found a plush prison outside of dallas. this never aired on cbs, but i did find the transcript of his report and thought i would share a part of it with you. as bob working to the prison warden's office and started the interview, he said, "tell me a little bit about the regimen at this prism." the wharton set, "bob, we have

one of the largest libraries in the state of texas and visiting professors come from baylor. we have guest lectures from all over the world. he said that he would love mondays. >> tuesday was country music night and they have concerts' and people come in and the prisoners did to get up on stage. do you like country music? bob? >> yes. >> your to love tuesdays. >> wednesday is physical fitness day. do you love physical fitness? >> i just absolutely love that. >> will tell me about thursday. -- what happens on friday, bob

said? >> well, friday is romance day. everyone gets dressed up and we have a romantic dinner and people start to pair up. it is a very special evening. >the like bob or do you like women? >> bob said that he really likes women. the warden then said that he was more to really hate fridays. -- he was born to really hate fridays. -- going to really hate fridays. there is someone else. look at the tate. >> anderson, you are my new source. you are the trusted source that

i need on what is going on around the world. thank you about this big board. >> we are one to do one more. >> know. no. by the to the stupid things. >> this is for bob schieffer in washington. >> who is bob schieffer? i have never heard of him. >> he is a great writer from fort worth. >> oh, dan jenkins. >> no, not dan jenkins. >> he works for cbs news? >> he does a morning show on sunday you're talking about charles osgood. >> know, is the show after charles osgood. -- know, is the show after charles osgood. this is based a nation with bob schieffer. -- "face the nation with bob

schieffer." >> he as a legendary cbs news personality. >> walter cronkite, charles osgood -- >> he is in that category. >> does he go by bob or robert? >> he goes by bob. >> all right, let's do it. make sure your race all this other stuff. >> robert, i just want to say. >> no, bob. >> you are sure that he goes by bob? ok, another new queue. bob, i just want to say that i am such a huge fan of your sunday morning show "face the press." >> it is "face the nation."

go. >> bob schieffer, i just want to say that you are my news source. you are the man who tells me what is the went on around a world. i know you're getting this recognition today. your an unbelievable friend of me. thank you for all the you do for cbs news and all of america. god bless you. >> all right. >> i have never heard of him. can i do this for real? >> mr. schieffer, i want to say on behalf of my co-conspirators and fellow texan and sean mcmanus, we hope that you had a few laughs because we do admire you so much and appreciate your friendship and professionalism. you truly are the trusted voice. i have never felt that you got the recognition that you deserve. no one tells a story better,

honestly or fairly with the compassionate heart that we need than bob schieffer. i am lucky to have your friendship. i have enjoyed our times around golf. on behalf of all of our crew, thank you and god bless you and congratulations. no one deserves this recognition more than you. congratulations, bob. [applause] >> i told to that you would like that, didn't i? on a serious note, there is no one in this industry who i have more respect for them bob schieffer. it is really not an overstatement to say that in our darkest moment at cbs news, bob schieffer stepped in and took control of the anchor chair both literally and figuratively and righted the ship. that is something that very few men in his position could have done. he is the man in washington.

"face the nation" is better than ever. i admire him as a broadcaster and just as much as a husband, a father, a grandfather and a really good friend. he has made my tenure more manageable. i cherish his sense of history and his sense of humor. bob is a great journalist, writer and broadcaster and a relatively accomplished country singer. i guess we will find out tonight. he is an enormous asset to all of us at cbs news and a true legend in this town and in this business. one of my all-time favorites, congratulations bob. i actually do love the man. europe are a good man. . .

>> thank you to our roasters -- give them a hand. brought to you by pfizer. thanks, bob. the format is a little bit different for the dinner this year. things change from time to time. things change in the field of journalism. we've seen a lot of different winners in a lot of difference in tuitions and a lot of changes in this profession as well. -- the first night was a saturday night massacre during watergate. walter cronkite had people walking out of his speech. we hope that will not happen to you tonight. >> although if news breaks and duty calls we know who will be

in the seat first. one thing remains constant throughout these dinners. again, we are honoring a true giant of journalism. from the day john f. kennedy was shot to this very day, bob schieffer has been at the top of his game, at the top of his profession. he top of his profession. he's done it all over the years. he's moderated presidential debates, anchored the cbs evening news and won two emmys and sigma delta ki awards. he was awarded the 2003 paul white award by the radio, television news association. he's seen the journalism school at his alma mater, what is that again, texas christian university? [applause] >> he's seen that school named in his honor and through it all carried himself with the grace as extraordinary as his journalism. given the way bob has weathered the changes in his profession and challenging times he's been in, it was really a matter of

time bob would join walter cronkite, tom brokaw or many of the other great journalists who won the national press club's prestigious award which is the award we're honoring tonight. as behalf of the press club, it's my pleasure and honor to present you with this year's 2010 national press club stourt estate award. 2010 national press club fourth estate award. [applause] >> i'm sorry to barge in like this but i've been waiting for this a long, long time.

43 years and six months today to be exact. and they have been 39 of the happiest years of my life. i have been sitting on the sidelines most of this time practicing my adoring nancy reagan gaze. i never got it down just right. but give me credit for never falling asleep. that's especially hard when you hear those same old stories over and over and over again about mrs. oswald and lyndon johnson. trust me, i can tell them myself verbatim. but you've heard them, too, so i won't. but we've had a pretty good run. on our anniversary last year, bob said to me, is there really anything you've done that you wish you -- anything you

haven't done that you wish you could have done? and i said, yeah, george clooney. [applause] >> everyone always thinks bob is so self-confident but he's like most men in need of constant reassurance. he was looking in the mirror the other day and complaining about getting old. he was whining about his hairline receding and wasn't as white. he said he had those awful bags under his eyes and so many wrinkles and he said, please tell me something positive that will make me feel better. i looked at him and said, well, you have 20/20 vision. [laughter] >> the truth is, he's not perfect but he'll do until perfect comes along. so i think i'll keep him.

i might as well, at his age he doesn't have much trade-in value. but tonight, ladies and gentlemen, i will give him to you. [applause] >> oh, you've got to be careful in this crowd. thank you very much, pat. you know, pat and i have been married 43 years. and as you can see, i --? [applause] >> i think the reason for that -- there are two reasons. number one, she has a great sense of humor. and number two, i've never allowed guns around the house. i'm very strong for gun control. especially around the house. that, and i've had a lot of

fun. i tell you, you know, the girl is 71 years old, i mean, she's still going along and she's still hot. i tell you that. she said to me the other night, she said, honey, you want to run upstairs and have some fun? i said, you know, i can run upstairs or i could have some fun but i don't think i could do both. [applause] >> and i tell you, you know, i just -- having sam here and having lindsey here and sean here, who i must say -- i'm just going to suck up a little bit here. he's the best boss i ever had. sean, i really thank you all for coming. lindsey and sam, both of whom i've known for years, and you know, they practice this unique

thing in legislating. the two of them actually reach across the aisle and find ways to work together. we don't get to see that much anymore. but i am just really proud to know both of them and thank both of you for coming. you're two of my very best friends and two people in the congress that i admire most of all. i want to thank the press club. this is a great honor for me. i mean, any time to get mentioned in the same paragraph as walter cronkite -- walter cronkite was who i wanted to be when i was a little boy. i mean, he's still who i want to be and still who i'm trying to be and to win an award that walter won in this very room is very meaningful to me. and i accept it on behalf of journalism. you know, i'm going to tell you a secret. i didn't get into journalism for noble reasons. i got into it because it looked

like it would be a lot of fun. and you know, it has been. i'll never forget, i saw my biline for the first time when i was in the eighth grade in the school newspaper and it just looked so fine sitting up on top of that article that i wrote. i thought boy, i just love that. it made me feel so good. and that is really was the beginning of my wanting to be a reporter. and i never, ever from that day forward ever wanted to do anything else but be a journalist. and fortunately my mother momo wanted me to be a doctor so i spent kind of a two-year detour at t.c.u. doing pre-med until finally that summer i got a job working at a little radio station and said mom, this is what i want to do. and so i did. the result was i had to use all these things like organic chemistry and things like that for my electives. i had to take 21 hours to

graduate, and i did. i can say i did graduate on time, which is about the best i can say for my education. i was not magna cum laude, i was thank you laude. and i was proud to get out of there. but man, i tell you, i didn't even know if i was growing to graduate. i was in the graduation line and we hadn't gotten our final grades and i had to make a c in spanish. i was specialized in spanish when i was at t.c.u. i took -- this is true. i took nine semesters of spanish to get that required four semesters through spanish. but i'm standing up there in that line wondering if i'd passed p because my grades hadn't come and i actually made a c and i'm telling you, i got up on that stage and i got that diploma and got out of there before they came and took it away from me. all my life i have been a reporter. and you know, as i look around

this room tonight with the possible exception of dick morgan sitting here on the front row, dick and i played baseball at north side high school together in fort worth with a possible exception of dick and linda, every other single person in this room that i know i met because i became a journalist. and it's been such a wonderful life and i enjoyed it so much. and it's not the stories that you cover, it's the people that you meet along the way that make it so much fun. but let me say one other thing tonight in a very slightly serious way and this will be the last serious thing i'm going to have to say tonight because i still think journalism is about having fun. journalism is a noble profession. when it is practiced in the right way. and the reason that it is is because we cannot have democracy as we know it today unless the people out there

have access to independently gathered information which they can compare to the government's version of events. [applause] >> and that's what we do and what we ought to be proud of doing. and we're at a crossroads now. we don't know whether technology is going to take this profession we all in this room love. we don't know if we're going to get the news on our wrist watch or a piece of paper. but the important thing is that it be independently gathered and that it be accurate. you know, the internet is the only vehicle we've ever had to deliver news that has no editor. but the worst newspaper has somebody on the staff that knows where the stuff came from. the internet today, information pops up, we don't know where it comes from, whether it's true,

whether it's false, we don't know anything about it. the challenge for journalists is not where the technology is taking us, but is the product that we're going to deliver to the american people going to be held to the same standards that the mainstream media adheres to today? first and foremost, that we don't publish or broadcast anything unless we know it's true. [applause] >> so i'm just going to say to you tonight, be proud of what you do. we don't know where the technology is going but independently gathered information and access to it by every citizen is as crucial and as vital to a democracy as the right to vote. we have to have that. we have to keep it up. you cannot have democracy as we know it without it.

if we do our jobs, if we get independently gathered, accurate information to the public, that indeed is a noble thing and it's something that all of us can be proud of. i'm proud to be a part of journalism. i always have been. i thank you all for being here tonight. you're all my friends here tonight. [applause] >> and now -- and now, ladies and gentlemen, and now i don't want you to pay too much attention to what you have heard before, because right now i'm going to give you the true and accurate story of how i got into journalism and how i became a reporter. here we go.

>> mike sam gudall, john cowell, the backup singers, little lulu and sister hot stuff, sister hot stuff is the short one. and this is the story of how i became a tv anchorman. ♪ >> well, i was just a good old boy trying to get along, pumping gas, singing my song, had me a job at stucke yps, there's old bill stuckey on

i-95. a guy pulled up in a red corvette and said fill her up, but not just yet. first let me look deep into your eyes. i said excuse me, bud, before you intrude, i don't understand this interlude. i'm a cowboy from out at lonesome dove. son, that's not what i'm about, i'm a news consultant, a tv scout, we're looking for an anchorman, a guy with a girl. you don't have to know all that much, like names and dates and facts and such, but you've got a face that we'd like. i wasn't sure i understood, but in those words sounded good and he said we'll make tv history. i want to be a tv anchorman. want to be on the tv.

he's got hair and bems up to there. [inaudible] >> i bet this job i just took, i started practicing my sincere look. he said i had the face of a man with heart. they spoke me some lines, taught me a style, drew a happy face on the script where i said smile, and key demographics went right off the chart. i have to say they pay me good, lots better than old stuc, y ever would, now a cute little stage manager kissed me on my cue. >> you're on! >> selling tractor hats and dusting gas, that's all part of my long lost past now, i just sit there and read the news. i'm a tv anchorman. i joined the eyewitness band.

i've got hair and bells up to there. it's the american dream. no more -- [inaudible] >> we'll stay until dinner, by the light of the moon. [inaudible] >> he became a tv anchorman. i joined the eyewitness team. and the bells up to there. it's a true american, all american, true american dream ♪ >> all right! i'll be taking questions and making personal appearances, folks, this wednesday night.

>> next on c-span another award dinner with governor mitch daniels were serving -- kahnving the herman award. then, a look at the lives of children and immigrants in america and how their lives are different from that of their parents. c-span's 2010 campaign coverage continues with political debates and rallies beginning at noon eastern. senate majority leader harry reid and republican challenger sharron angle face-off in nevada's only scheduled senate debate. we then had west to california between -- for debate between candidates vying for the job of governor. after that, the only meeting between democrats chris coons and republican christine

o'donnell to fill the seat once occupied by joe biden. finally, a senate debate from missouri to fill the retiring seat of kit bond -- to fill the seat of retiring kit bond. what all of this sunday on c- span. -- watch all of that on c-span. >> middle and high school students, get working on those videos for student cam. c-span's annual video documentary competition. there's $50,000 in prizes. this year's theme, "washington, d.c. through my lens." on complete information on how to upload your video, go to studentcam.org. >> earlier this week, indiana governor mitch daniels received the hudson institute's herman kahn award. he is joined by dan quayle and this portion runs 40 minutes. he is joined by dan quayle and this portion runs 40 minutes. >> i wrote a letter to the then

prime minister of japan asking if i could meet with him. he didn't have the foggiest idea who i am but he remembered herrmann kahn, something of an icon in japan and he said, please come and see me. bring a copy of the book with you. and i did so. when i walked into his chambers , koizumi looked at me up and down and said you must eat more. based on the sumptuous meal this evening, i am trying. i have the distinct pleasure this evening of introducing a friend. let me be very precise, dan quayle. that was -- [applause] >> back in the early 1970's, i met a remarkable man named jim

quayle, dan's father. over coffee we discussed his son and his son's ambitions. he was obviously proud of dan quayle, neither of us realized the heights to which his son would rise. in 1976, dan was elected to the congress, and in 1980, he rode the wave of pro-reagan sentiments into the senate. in his eighth senate year he displayed a keen understanding of armed services matters and was recognized by members of both parties as a keen analyst of defense-related issues. in 1988 when dan was 41 years old, he was tapped by president george herbert walker bush to run as vice-presidential candidate. it was a controversial but wise decision, since dan served the president and the country as a superb 44th vice president of the united states.

[applause] >> since his tour in the white house, dan has been an author, having written three books, a professor who taught at international studies at thunderbird, the american graduate school of international management, and a businessman who serves as global chairman of sirberth's investments. most noteworthy is his association with the hudson institute. it was dan who assisted with our relocation to indianapolis at a critical juncture in our history and i should hastily add he served on the board of trustees as well. and can attest to the fact that he was truly an imminent public servant and is, in my judgment, a man for all seasons, resourceful, devoted to this nation, and in command of the central issues of our times. it is indeed a unique pleasure for me to introduce the former

of the hudson board, a person i am proud to call a friend, and the truly great american, dan quayle. >> herb, thank you very much, thanks for the introduction, more importantly, thank you for a long time friendship that we've had. allen, it's great to be back, great to be back with hudson institute, have so many fond memories of the service that i've been -- and the association i've had with friends here and abi sahn, thank you, prime minister, for coming here. great prime minister, been a long time friend. i've been traveling to japan since 1977. i was very familiar and worked with his father when he was foreign affairs minister, and worked with him in the public

arena and also in the private arena. and herman kahn was the person that really discovered that japan was going to be an economic superpower. so your presence here tonight is very much appreciated by all of us. thank you for making the effort. >> so it's great to be back in d.c. let's see, i left this in 1993 and just to show you how times have actually changed a little bit, walk into the front desk there, escorted by a friend from hudson, he's in the back, and go up there, this guy he had a trainee badge on. he said, may i help you? i said, well, i'd like to check in. he says, well, what's the last name. i said, quayle. and he goes s is that with a k?

i go, you got to be kidding me, they're going to get into the spelling stuff right away? [applause] >> i just love this place. it's so great to be back in d.c.p. you know, herb was talking about my father, and my political career, many of you may know, my son is now running he got through a rugged primary and right after the primary, he's got a lot of name recognition now, so i called the local restaurant because four of us wanted to go to dinner. and i called down there and i said hi, i'm dan quayle, i'd like to make a reservation for

four, and i know it's really late but i frequent this place quite a bit and i know mark bhossee the owner, he's there, he'll give me my corner table. she says, just a second, quayle, dan quayle, she goes, are you related to ben quayle? >> i said, well, yes, he's my son. she goes, is he coming with you tonight? i said no, he's done. oh, darn. ma'am, can i have my reservation? she finally gave me my reservation. so now i'm using my son to get a reservation at a restaurant where i used to be taken care of quite frequently. so anyway, being back in this city, even though we got the midterm elections but, you know all the conversation out there, presidential politics, we're not talking about presidential politics tonight, but if you want to know, i can tell you how not to get elected president. what you do is get elected to

the house, you get elected to the senate, serve four years with a great president and then run against his son for president. that's the way not to do it. then you can come back and be a volunteer for your son's campaign for congress. but anyway, tonight is a special opportunity for me to introduce to you the recipient of the 2010 herman kahn award, mitch daniels. i've known mitch probably over 30 years. i watched him with senator lugar, went back to indiana, president of hudson institute, eli lilly, then came out and worked in the reagan administration, served as o.m.b. director under george w. bush. like herman kahn, mitch is an innovator. he thinks outside the box. and you don't see that too often today in politics. because, you know, you have the conventional campaigns, you've got all the consultants, and you've got the things that you

can do and can't do and it's pretty well many times scripted. but mitch has always been a person that would think outside the box. and that's why i think he's been tremendously successful in the state of indiana and has notoriety according to abisan in japan because of what he's done with the toll road and pro growth low taxes. so i think having been president and c.e.o. of hudson in the past, i can't think of a greater honoree than the governor of the state of indiana, the honorable mitch daniels. >> mark twain said that the perfect audience was informed,

intelligent, inquisitive, and drunk. [laughter] >> been a long evening, i'm thinking we're pretty near perfect here, which would come in handy. dan, thanks a million. ken, all my friends, this has been like a college reunion. you know, there are folks here that i have longed to see for quite a long time and you've made it possible for that alone, i'm incredibly grateful. it is an intimidating audience, though. you know, even as the man said, jefferson dining alone. he would have a hard time exceeding the candle power that's assembled in this room. and it's intimidating because i've learned in this job, first and only elected office i'd

of awards and recognitions you don't really deserve. and now for the second night in the row that happened. last night it had to do with education, something i aspire to contribute a great deal more to but we're a work in progress in indiana and they gave us a present -- one of these presence of somebody who's actually been there and done that, a tutor of mine, foreign governor jim hunt of north carolina. so once again tonight i feel like i'm out of my class. fighting above my weight class. speaking of weight, carol said early on, herman was probably three times your size. and i said, yeah, his brain was 33 times more mine. i'm advised the only previous recipient of this recognition

was bill simon. now that's intimidating. bill simon was a genuine giant, a lot to live up to there. i've always admired something about bill simon that some of us think george washington, greatest of countless contributions to our nation was his last one mainly, that he stepped out of the presidency after two terms when he might easily have continued and established the precedent, more regal than democratic. bill simon as the chairman of the olin foundation faithfully presided over the founder's instructions to spend that foundation down to zero and go out of business. i see some former grantees in the audience who really hate the fact that simon did his duty. but he always did.

and to be mentioned in the same breath with a person like that will leave you sort of speechless. but then, of course, to accept the honor named after herman kahn really does go beyond my powers of description, and the risk is that anything one says on an occasion like this will i read that honor another occasion in which someone was controversially, in that case graced with an award, andrew jackson was given an honorary degree at harvard, very much disputed by certain people who felt he wasn't -- didn't measure up to the standards, of demonstrating that challenged him to acknowledge

the honor in latin. jackson apparently drew himself up to his full height and said, e pluribis enum, my friends, sine qanoan and sat down. i'm sure you and i are wishing i had adopted a similar approach. it's a cliche of higher education to say that college, graduate school, so forth, people go to learn to think critically. you may not learn anything there but you learn to think critically. maybe you did, i'm not sure i can say that about either my undergraduate or spotty law school, night school experience but at hudson institute, that was my graduate school. if i learned anything critically, or to think more profoundly about things, it was there. and this, when i think about

the merry band who left rand corporation and who he assembled there, and then hudson, later in indianapolis, this is what i think about first. they thought in ways we should all aspire to think. they thought long term and wrote books with modest titles like "the next 200 years." [laughter] >> my current job gives me some opportunities for this, at one point until a couple years ago the two oldest people on the planet earth both were women, farm women who lived in indiana, about 30 files apart, they were both girlfriends of mine, i got to know them both pretty well. in fact, i got them together, edna's 114th birthday. bertha was a spring chicken of

113. some guy, some geek from the guinness book of world records showed up that day and proclaimed that the oldest combined meeting of two human beings in the history of the planet, 227 years, x months, y days. but on bertha's -- not on her birthday but new year's day, i took her lunch, new year's celebration in her 114th year -- 113th year. and afterwards, i overheard the guy from the local radio station interviewing her, and he asked sort of the obvious question, he says, oh, mrs. fry, all those years, all the history you've lived through, there must be things that stand out, what are they. she named a couple things, v.e. day and of course the fascination of the president. he said oh, yes, any american was alive remembers where president kennedy was killed. she said no, young man, mckinley.

she was 7 years old when mckinley got shot, went home to the farm, no one believed her, there was no -- and experiences like that help you, and listening to -- reading back through the work of hudson helps one to stretch your sense of historical perspective. herman kahn was a believer in anecdotal information, oh, yes, he was a great analyst and poured through the quantitative record and statistics but was well known. the history of hudson details how he would interrogate taxi cabdrivers searching for some nugget of insight you might not get elsewhere. now, my current job is like that, too, i cannot tell you the kind of anecdotal knowledge i have come by. for instance, i am probably the nation's expert at how to sign one's name on a goat.

you go to h-h -- 4-h fairs, kids want you to sign a lot of hats, shirts, animals. anyone who wants to know the technique, feel free to see me afterwards. two weeks ago in goose pond, indiana, i learned the following, you cannot faith fully neuter a hibernating animal. you cannot safely neuter a hibernating animal. in case this comes as news to you, let me inform you of it. there's something about the fact hibernating animal's kidneys shut down and testosterone is essential. the reason i know this is my friend dan gamble, down around goose pond who used to raise bears as domestic pets the way you might have a dog or a cat,

once neutered his favorite bear, the 7'4" odie, who eventually developed liver cancer as a result. very sad event. odie, while he was alive, by the way, is still remembered down there, for having gone into the bars of dugger, indiana, with dan on many occasions, one night had too much beer and knocked dan out cold with his paw. you're not going to find this in a think tank book anywhere. you've got to get out and do research. hudson always thought in a contrarian way, always thought the word should have been respelled k-a-h-n, contrarian, because he and his colleagues so personified the view that by the time everybody believes

something, it's almost certainly wrong. by the time wisdom becomes conventional, you ought to presume that it lost its validity. a great old -- one of the early hudson folks who i learned tonight, to my delight i didn't know, is still alive in his 90's, frank arm brewster told me about operations and analysis which hudson is a pioneer in. in world war ii a bunch of british academics came up with the idea to reassemble in a hanger, the pieces of r.a.f. planes that had come back -- the point was they would reassemble all these pieces and count the bullet holes and shrapnel homes and see which places in the plane might need to be reinforced. when they put it together they were going around counting and there was one piece of the fuselage where absolutely zero holes were found. and one of them said, i guess

we don't have to worry about that. some guy painting the wall of the hanger hollers down, well, you ought to. he says, why? and he said, those are the ones that don't come back. this is the way people at hudson learned -- this is how we were trained to think, perpen dick lear -- perpindicular. the people of hudson were trained by herman and his group to think in a way that was principled, yes, but immensely practical. will you indulge yet again the old hudson chestnuts, the story is comes the revolution and the intellectuals are to be obtain to the guillotine, the first one is taken up to the blade, the blade gets stuck halfway down, it's an act of god by custom the guy goes free. second guy is taken, put his head in the block, same thing happens, he goes through.

herman is third. they put his head on the block, he looks up and goes wait, i think i see your problem. [laughter] >> when you look at the old kinnescopes and read the old books and debrief the old-timers, herman and the folks who started hudson always had a bias for action, but thinking was never about scoring a scholastic or academic point, it was always about figuring out a better way forward. one of the beautiful little phrases herman came up with was the term "educated incapacity." it's been said there are some things so absurd only an american intellectual can believe them to be true. herman looked around and recognized that it is possible to spend so much time thinking

and studying and cogitating and analyzing you're not likely to produce a practice, commonsense answer to the problems that confront and bedevil us. we have in indianapolis still, thank goodness, this wonderful old jewish man who is one of the survivors of the famous bielsky brothers band of

>> a malbush was formerly an elite person before the nazi's came. but in the forest, in the fight for survival, these formerly leadership elites were now next to useless. they didn't have crafts, they didn't understand weapons, they didn't know how to fight or to do the things that were now necessary. and herman kahn and his kennedy rid -- kin drid -- kindred spirpities were never malbushes but were aapplying their great gifts to real practical outcome and to the human progress that could come from them. then as ken so well depicted, they were optimists. herman always said realists, he

lived in a world of pessimism, so he said in the club of rome environment of the day to be optimistic, simply be realistic. we're not going to run out of this, we're not going to run out of that. his buddy and my friend julian simon won the famous bet on the cover of "the new york times" magazine. does anybody remember this? [applause] >> mr. ehrlich, i guess, much celebrated author, got a genius award for being wrong every day of your life for 30 years. and julian simon said fine, you think we're going to go bust in this world, you think we'll run out of things? i bet you. you pick the commodities, i bet you $10,000 the price is lower 10 years from now. julian wins. that's the way people of hudson institute thought. they believed -- they understood this fundamental

fact, extrapolation always leads to a wrong answer, always leads to a dead end. history, particularly the history of technology is discontinuous. there will be breakthroughs, there will be discovers. there will be radical perpendicular turns in history and eventually lead upwards. so ken is right, we could use herman today. some of the issues he dealt with are back, but with a twist. he thought about the unthinkable, nuclear weapons and how to prevent their use. he was thinking about it in a world in which the possessors of those weapons, however evil were rational. and wanted to survive. how do we think about nuclear weapons when they may be possessed by people whose theology tells them that their own emlation