>> thank you. let's bring out our panel, shall we? all right. good morning, everyone. . . there should be four of them. good morning, everyone. our topic this hour, it is 6:00 in the evening for you. otherwise, it is morning. we have a great panel. we will start with the senior political analyst for cnn. [applause] as well as a director for the center for public leadership. david began his career in public service in the nixon white house back in 1971.

is that not right? he did go on to become director of communications in both the ford and reagan administration. he was the adviser to the 1980 george. w. bush presidential campaign. >> you left out grover cleveland. >> good lord. weave the junior senator from indiana. [applause] during -- he has written legislation calling upon congress to fully implement the 9/11 commission recommendations, help close the bermuda a tax loophole, and cast the tie- breaking vote to advance credit card reform. the senator also spearheaded the creation of an organization on developing common sense legislation solutions.

prior to this election and the u.s. senate, he served two terms as governor of indiana. >> we refer to that as the good old days. >> to my right, joe was elected to the united states senate for west virginia last month. prior to this election, he served as the governor of west virginia. during his five years as governor, he led the efforts to pay down a $1.7 billion in underfunded state liability and cut the food tax in half, saving west virginia consumers millions of dollars.

to my left, joe scarborough. [applause] serving as a member of the u.s. congress -- is this the young republicans club? >> there are three of them out there. >> not here, not today. it is not about labels. he was a member of the judiciary committee and the armed services committee. he was also part of a smolt -- a small group of republican congressmen that invested some surprising amount of power given their youth and lack of years in congress. he is 2004 book -- his 2004 book predicted the collapse of the republican majority. his recent book predicted that

democratic policies and massive spending would not revive the economy. today, a joke is co-host of a show that time magazine called the revolutionary morning. i want to start the panel. david, we will start with you because you have been around a lot is, obviously. [laughter] >> your day will come. >> i am already there. you worked forresidents of both sides of the aisle. is hyper ptisanship worse than ever? >> it is about 15 on a scale of one to 10. it is far worse than it was. i have reached an age -- it takes me an hour-and-a-half to watch "60 minutes."

i came to washington in the early 1970's. the world war two generation was running things. that generation -- it was a very civic experience. they consider themselves strong democrats or strong republicans, but first and foremost of americans. the country came first. richard nixon told me shortly before he died, one of its proudest moments in politics came early on in his career. nixowas part of the world generation. that was the year of the big republican sweep. harry truman really down in the polls. in 1947, he wanted to have a

rescue plan. he asked george marshall if he would have it under his name. it became the marshall plan. it was very unpopular. truman called in a lot of republicans. they gradually got public support. one of its proudest moments came when the marshall plan would to a vote on the floor of the house and heat stood up on one side of the aisle in favor of this democratic plan. on the other side of the aisle was another freshman member standing up in favor, john f. kennedy. the importance of american politics is when the chips are down, we stand up together. that was the spirit of the world war oii generation. [applause] >> i wonder if some of the worst

of it is in the echo chamber. maybe america does not reflect what we are seeing on television or hearing on the radio. there is a media component. >> one of the most fascining feelings that i have heard of our show was when pat buchanan and tom brokaw started talking in 2009 during the health-care debate. i sd, you guys cover the civil rights struggle, 1968. chicago was on fire. that was about as bad as it had gotten, right? pat buchanan said, nope. this is much worse. it is interesting now. when i thought the survors of the clinton administration and the new gingrich congress, but we got together, despite the

fact that it seemed so ugly back in the 1990's, we talk about how we did not like each other, when the chips are down, we had to do the right thing. balance forbes -- balance the budget for first time for the first time in a generation. we grow the economy. we did a lot of very positive things together. that is before the hyper partisanship really got fuelled by the new media components. i am not saying that it ishe responsibility of bloggers to be more tactful. the responsibility falls, the responsibility lies and politicians being grown ups and knowing what to filter out.

washington has not done a good job at distinguishing between ground noise and the signal. i think that it is beginning to change. i really do. there is no doubt that there is immediate compounded to this that we did not have during the clinton administration. >> be a found that -- we have found that our show has been a breakthrough in the national conversation. we did not attack each other. there is ultimately peace athe end, usually. >> it is not possible -- it is not personal and that is the bottom line. >> better, tired, cynical, but still idealistic. looking for a different role. tell us why. i want to hear from both

senators. why are you here today? this obviously resonates with you and it is something that you think we need as we move forward. >> i have the perspective of someone who grew up in public life by virtue of my service. i think we searched in vain for a golden era. it has already -- it has always been a rough and tumble. it is worse today than it was before. my father tells the story that in 1968, he is running for his first reelection. the republican leader -- he comes to my father in the floor of the senate and put to his arm around his shoulder and asked what he could do to help with his reelection. this would never happen today. you look for sharp instruments. it was different in those days. my message is that to -- there

are gathering challenges that will define the future of our country. my children, who are now 15, will inherit from me an america that is less than what we inherited from our parents. i fill a deep moral responsibility not let that happen. [applause] the current political process is not delivering the result of the american people want. to the unfortunate part is that that middle, at near where i'm from, they do not care what party he belongs to. they want practical progress. it also can be good politics. look at what happened the last couple eleion cycles. my party won independence by 9%. they are looking for something better, something different. that is what this organization

has the chance to deliver. we will make a remarkable contribution to public welfare. they said, what is your audience? we also have an inside audience. if itay out that sensible center, i will get shot from both sides. now there is a movement that will support you in during the right thing. that is very important. [applause] >> i sit here with a sign that says no labels behd me. was i wrong to label you as idealistic? we were talking about some of the things that you see in washington and tell separates the parties are when they're trying to work together. >> i was in the legislature in west virginia and in the state senate for 10 years and became

secretary of state and then governor. i've been in washington for three weeks. as soon as the election is certified, we take office. at 12:00 on november the 15th, i was governor. was gone.i i had four hours of transition. the first week, i was labeled a conservative and a liberal. >> that is a good day. >> my first observation -- i go to my first armed services committee and you're listening to the joint chief of staffs, and i'm thinking, here is the chairman. we have john mccain. then we have all the republicans on one side and the democrats on the other side. the body itself, i knowe will

have separation. in committees, we all sat together. we talk to. -- we talked. we started to build a relationship. what i've observed and three weeks is designed to push us apart traded as gone to the point where committees respondence is based on who had the best lobbying. not where you can make the most in plant and have more input for america. i ran on this, my observation of washington was that to ty put their party first, they put their personal politics second, and their government last. i put my country first and let the rest fall where it may. no labels is giving us the vehicle to do it. >> we also want to talk about how we can get the two existing parties talking again.

>> look at the tea party. the tea party had a movement because -- in my little state, people did not believe that you can spend yourself to prosperity. things are tough. the are having a hard time. -- we are having a hard time. we do not believe that in west virginia. >> this is -- i wrote aolumn about a month ago before the election. it made a lot of my republican friends very angry and a lot of my democratic enemies very angry. i need the overall point that nancy pelosi is going around saying, elected democrats for the future of our docracy is reing on it. then you have republican leaders saying, in socialism, collect republicans. at the end of the day, when you

talk about this issue, it is not that much of a difference. the bottom line is we have a deficit commission that work forever to pay down $4 trillion in debt. it got voted down and then the next weekend, both parties got together and agreed to a $1 trillion stimulus plan. this is what americans -- david, you have seen it time and time again. everybody is screaming and yelling and is calling on the other side. they are all working together to give us deeper and deeper in debt. at her -- it is a charade. it is a scam. >> all of us are discouraged about what we see in washington. at around the country, there are examples where government is working.

it happens in cities and states. you find this happening. here in new york city, mayor bloomberg has ge a lot of progress in schls, creation of jobs. it has not -- chicago has been an extremely well-run city. both of you guys had to learn to work across. it was much more productive in your state. it was a more satisfying job to be a governor as you got some things done. >> they are the most oppressed people on earth. >> they thought it was an upgrade. >> evan i do not know what it is like in the senate, not only do you get committee assignments based on the money you can bring into the party, but they see how

loyal you are. it is kind of like "the sopranos." you do not get credit for being loyal to the family 95% of the time. >> there areome important institutional reforms that should be ma. it is almost tribal. democrats have lunch together. we do not eat with the republicans. literally, in my 12 years, there have been three times we have sat down to actual listen to one another. first was when present clinton was impeached. there were no rules. it was a constitutional crisi we gathered in the senate chamber and listen to each other for three or four hours. the trial went forward. the balance of power was

preserved. three days after 9/11, the senators to could make it back to washington gathered in the senate dining room and nobody was thinking like a democrat or republican. you want to protect the country. about a month ago, when the midterm elections came by, it was immediately following the financial panic. weere called down and ben bernanke was sitting there. it will take millions of jobs with it, thousands of businesses. we looked at each other, okay. what do we need to do? it should not take a constitutional crisis, an attack on the nation, or a nancial panic to have our government function in a way that it is in the american people's be interest. [applause]

there are a couple of reasons why we got to this point. joe gives in coming senator and vice. -- advice. >> i do not need to give him advice. >> be your own man. do not sell your boat. -- vote. did not sell your vote to party leader. i see it time and time again they separate the freshmen and this aund them. this is about a movement. this is about freedom. this is about whatever. you've got to learn to see note from the one. >> it is also about -- if you want that committee assignment

-- they look that solidarity. that and then that you are bringing up, we might be able to find time for that. but we are counting on you for that other thing. those trade-offs are constant. but you have to have the strength of character. >> that is easy to say. in this atmosphere, there are a lot of different dynamics. years ago, you talked about how people on the hill interacted. they went to church with each other. they knew each other. they were not just competing megaphones. isn't that a problem? >> they moved their families to washington. i cannot call him a socialist if

i have to eat dinner with his wife the next night. that is a huge cultural disconnect. >> they talk about getting disconnected from your vors back home. in three weeks, i feel there is a disconnect. i felt like i had to go home. i went home this last weekend. you start -- the best politics isood government. what we ran it was a retail government. identify your customer. the government does not know who its customer is. they do not have to react to the bottom line.

most of t people that are in legislature have never been a in a business where they had to get a loan. they did not know the pressures. [applause] >> david, is and what we assault this week giving the customers what they want? >> -- isn't what we saw this week giving e customers what they want? >> i think that what has ppened is that the generation -- we lost a lo of that civic culture that was there. to me, you the question is not only what the folks in washington do. the real question is what you do. especially those of you are younger. my sense from teaching and i just talked to david brooks about this backstage, a number of us to have been exposed to the younger generation believe that you represent the new hope for the country. you are going to look beyond

partisanship. there are a lot of view that will be successful in making change. you have been out working. we have 24 -- people want to go out and work. we have all these military doctors coming back from iraq and afghanistan who are deeply committed to this country. a veryoyal. there is a culture of service coming up in the other generation that will save the country over time. you can bring us back to some sortf greater sense to commitment. we are all in this together. of course, we have sharp differences. at the end of the day, you need to put the country first. that is represented here on the stage. we need a whole flood of young people coming into our politics and into the political arena. if you could do that, you could save the country.

[applause] >> the message of no labels has -- has its time come? >> its time has come. this is an example of where the public is ahead of the politicians. the politicians are not done. they see this movement gathering force. they will tch on. i shar your concerns about the debt and deficit. i really do. i would look at the vote next spring on raising the debt levels. dy is going to want to vote for tha that might be the kind of moment that forces meaningful tax reforms and spending restraints that will have the added effect of getting the deficit on the right path. it may take that kind of

misogynist events to make it happen -- and misogynist to -- event to make it happen. >> you are exactly right. there is such a fundamental disconnect from more washington is and where in new york is compared to where most american voters are. we have seen it time and time again. we have gone out with a couple of different folks and given 200 speeches all across the country. it shocks me. it shocks m -- we give the same speech that we gave at pat robertson's university. people laugh at e same lines. they nodded the same lines. they agree time and time again. this country is a lot closer together than you would believe

watching television. are these republican issues or democratic issues? balancing the budget. the americans do not care how long it will take, they wanted done. most americans are tired of this fighting this war in afghanistan. we have been there for a decade. it is costing us $2 billion a week. i do not care if you are republican or democrat, we have people saying, let's rebuild our own country. let's stop rebuilding the other countries. energy and independence. americans want their

governments -- we a been saying this for two years. they wanthis government to invest in energy liked it is a sputnik moment. it is happening china, among our competitors, and we're going to be left behind. it does not. if you brought out some of those things to democrats, you'd be mocked. if you brought up and getting out to afghanistan to reblicans, we would kick you out. u have to set parties. >> you have to ve a vision where you want this country to be and how we will get there. i've been talking to all different -- liberals and conservatives. they all have a vision. if you talk long enough, you'll find out that everyone agrees on something. once you find that common denominator, you honan. you've everybody moving in the

same direction. it does not matter if you are right. if we do not bring together, we cannot fure it out at all. >> it is fascinating. we were talking about the fact that you got the endorsement of the chamber of commerce and it is not because they knew you were going to win. you did nothing before first bringing them into the room. let's find a common ground. we will build a better west virginia and it will be a west virginia were the chamber of commerce thrives. that is a revolutionary concep >> i walked into republican caucuses as a democrat. the last time i checked, we both

have the same decision. we are both serving the same people. this is a plan. let's see if we can work together. energy security, if you did not put security at the highest level, every war in history has been fought over energy. we are paying money -- they are using their money against us to rate hike. every state should be energy independent. >> this is where i get discouraged. i was in the white house when the -- i wrote a lot of those early speeches for president nixon and president ford, that we would become independent -- energy independent. we were 30% dependent on foreign oil at that time. where now 60% dependent. both speeches were very

effective. did those speeches were very fective. it is one area after another where the partisanship and the special interest have blocked our capacity to deal with the problem. we have almost 40 years of trying to deal with this energy problem. we still do not have a comprehensive energy policy. i was in the white hou when president reagan got the report on the terrible state of our schools. it was an alarming indictment. a lot of good governors went out and push on education reform. here we are, some 30 years later, and we still have not reached for schools. if we're going to get serious, all of these problems, they're

all coming down on us at once. either we're going to deal with them now and compete with china or we are going to surrender to these problems and we will go down as a great nation. it is about that simple. i think the reason this moment is here is not just because -- it is because the country is on the edge. if we do not deal with these problems now, we're going to condemn our future. i do not thi we have much time. >> what is the way forward? you have two parties that look very much alike. in terms of the way they follow therong policies. in spending, he really cannot see much of a difference. what is the way forward?

is it a third party? >> i just think that it is inevitable. i read a number somewhere or nancy pelosi into a dozen sex won independence by a 16 percentage points -- in 2006 won independence by a 16 percentage points. four years later, just four years later, republic -- -- republicans won independence by a 16 percentage points. that is still 32%. it is inevitable that is both parties continue doing what they have been doing, ignoring the challenges, ignoring the challenges of our deficit,

ignoring the challenges of grundy economy and bring our troops home, it is inevitable that to a third-party candidate start winning and breaking this 150 years old of power that the republicans and democrats have had. >> what is most likely is that because of the state of the economy and some of the unsustainable balances you mentioned it, what is most likely is that we'll have a sustained period of turning where there'll be a swing on the independent voters that you just mentioned. there is still in material chance that one of the portable parties -- they will change what they're doing credit all lot like when ross per ran. suddenly, deficit reduction became popular. they got it. there was a movement out there

and people were voting based on that. >> how did we go from barack obama being the candidate of change to 2010? it is mind bending. >> it might make you cry. >> on hold those two thoughts simultaneously. -- hold us to assaad simultaneously. >> there is a chance that -- i wish i could say that it was a devotion to higher ideals, but it is more likely to be self preservation, one of the two majoparties will get act and have a platform tha will embrace dealing with some of these sues.

the practical barriers to having a national third party are so sutantial, it is pretty difficult to pull off. one of the two existing policies will get it. >> david, do you agree with that? >> look for this vote on the debt ceiling. look for the credit markets reacting if we do not get our act together. look for a run on the dolla perhaps. an event is most likely to bring that about. >> the history has benwendy's popular movements, -- has been a when a popular movements have sprung up, anoth party has moved in. look at the tea party.

it is a movement. the question is whether in an effort to revise this -- the center of our economy is that we have a vibrant middle class. our economic landscape has been hollowed out. the issue becomes, in time you get something that has enough spontaneity to which some of pele show up its various downhauls -- town halls, the voices they are hearing more from the ends of the spectrum. you are a republican, you are hearing mostly tea party voices. they can be intimidating. >> look at this last election. blanche lincoln in arkans, $11

million. that was a clear message to moderate democrats. if you are not with the program, this is what will happen to you. look at bob bennett in utah. look at mike castle. he is the state's ban. he would have won that election by 2. that is where a gro like this can serve a real purpose. [applause] >> it comes down to this crippling debts. my grandfatheras an immigrant and the had a little grocery store. he would also say, if you are inclined to want to help people, keep ourselves strong. -- keep yourself strong.

i mean strong financially. he would show me an example. how about old charlie of there? >> charlie is theest guy in the remote -- and the world. charlie does not have an extra shirt to give you. that was emblazoned in my mind. i'm standing there taking that of, keep yourself strong. indebtedness -- we are making cowardly decisions now. we will continue to make them. [applause] >> if it all comes down to the crippling debt, what in the world happened in the past week? it all sounds good. you are about to have your taxes increased. >> you are looking at the 700 billion extending any of the

tas. >> my biggest problem is -- i do not think the federal government should take a fair verdict -- 40% of our money. we are $14 trillion in debt. if you're going to extend tax cuts, and you are going to do all these other things i cost of $960 billion, and you are already $14 trillion in debt, you better pay for it. this is where both parties come together. it is a national emergency. we have to get people back to work. barack obamaaid two years ago, a national emergency, we have to do this to revive our economy. it is the same thing that we heard george w. bush say about

their tax cuts. we have to get america back to work. we have to keep americans -- and that is fine. we have all theseriorities. but the only thing that you -- they want something for nothing. they want a free lunch. [applause] they do not have the political coage. we were $14 trillion in debt. here is the reality. at some point, we will understand that if we do not start to saying that we have to pay for it, we will become greece, ireland, but worse, california.

>> you'll have quite a few states, up the stimulus of runs out 2011. all the states that stimulus money. it's a tough choices are not made, that you will have many states that cannot meet their general obligations. >> no doubt about it. we have the deficit commission get together and work for months to try to figure out how to trim $4 trillion of the debt. it was to have the left. after they adjourn, that weekend, they add another trillion dollars. >> i want to come back to you wall. here is the situation. some really tough choices are coming out on spending and taxes. everybody was looked at this and

said the only way you can get the financing of this country a better place is that you have to both cut spending and raise taxes. you have to do both. the problem is, if you are a democrats' anti-war past to vote on spending cuts, there is a real danger that they will run at you from the left about the trend the party. ifou are republican and your vote to raise taxes, you are guaranteed -- they are guaranteed to take you out. what these folks need, we cannot put the many situation -- a few votes to put the country -- if you vote to put the country first, you will die. what is needed here is some kind of move and that gives some protection to people to do the

right thing for the cotry. it gives them some kind of support that salutes them for doing something courageous. [applause] >> i think it was abraham lincoln that said we cannot escape history. we basically have -- we can either make these decisions ourselves and give them a way that is best for the american people. or we can wait for outside forces to force them upon us at a time where it will be more difficult and largely beyond our control. those are the two choices we have. expect to take the reins ourselves and choose our own destiny. my best guest is that perhaps -- look at great britain. we have a conservative party and a moderate party together in a coalition government. they have come up with a very aggresve package.

if you can do their revenue, there is another side tthat. if we wait for the markets to impose it on us, it will be all pain and no gain. >> that is what happens politically. leaders in washington have to follow up the governor's mansion approach great when you were governor, that would be extraordinarily difficult. figuring out to raise taxes. figuring out how to cut spending. these are all rails -- these are all third rails of american politics. you touch them and you die. you have to get everybody in the room talking. these are the challenges we face. china is destroying us.

china is going to allow us in the next century if we do not stop investing money in wars and start investing in new eney sources. the way we do it -- the way you do it in was tradition is the way we need to do in washington. >> we wanted to cut the food packs. tax. it was a big part of our revenue stream. that is a big chunk of money for us. we will cut its one. a year and we will do it as we it afford to do it. we put a trigger on it, too. if we start dipping into our rainy day accounts, we might

raise taxes. the first indicator is that when your savings or your rainy day account starts dwindling, that means you went into the piggy bank and that is the trigger that goes off. that gets everybody's attention. >> ok. before we get to final thoughts, just a question. did the white house and the democrats miss a major opportunity this week? >> it is a wish list. they miss an opportunity to say, this is our iority. i heard about the purpose of

this. unless you take its stake to state and expand on this and you have real input and said downs with their elected officials, it might be the only chance that we have left to bring every ready together. [applause] >> we are going to take a few moments for some final thoughts. what i would love to hear is what is the way forward? it will start in order of seniority. david? >> i think we are at a strategic inflecon point for the country. we eat keep doing business the way we are doing it and we go down as a country. or that we change the way we

are doing it in washington. we cannot keep doing what we are doing. what we need is a citizen engagements. my plea to you would be is to have a lauh pad were you go from here and put real pressure on the political class to fix these problems and get support to those who are brave enough to take the right steps. to prepare yourself from this point, to get into the political arena and change the underlying culture. if you can change the culture, a lot of other things will follow and we can still change -- we can still save the country. if you just leave it, our future is very cloudy. if you get into the arena and you fight, we still have a shot. [applause]

>> i am the new guy. i is that all the senators and they are all great people. they are there for the right reasons. there is something that is driving them to make things that you normally would not do it every day life. the pressures of the meetings. the pressures of always chasing the dollar. you better tell your story before someone tells one on you. that happens. i am seeing the pressures from the outside turning good hard- working people into a political animal. it does not seem to take that long to do that. you might be becoming voice -- calming voice. >> i think the senator is right.

a lot of this has do with the 24/7 news cycle. you guys are selling portions. this organization is so important. to even with what we do every day, we had an idea several years ago that we would do something radical on cable news. we're going to allow peopl to talk. we're always going to respect what they d to say and it was born to be a safe house. it worked. like all of these guys up here, i know it is the reality. you go on the internet, your read articles about you, or if you see your child reading an article about you, you have to say, do not leave a comment. the hatred and the vitriol poured people who try to find a common ground -- you would not

believe what was launched against people who are trying to keep the conversation going. i know these guys have dealt with it. you get discouraged. we would go out on this book torras and people would come up and they would not say thank you, they would come up and how does. you find that time after time after time, there are normal people all their that do not live in their mother's basement blogging about what aid terrible human being we are -- what a terrible human being we are. i cannot state enough. all of these guys can put up with 100 people screaming them at a town hall meeting.

they s five people there in orange shirt saying, hold your ground. it has nothing to do with ideology. it has nothing to do with politics. did everything to do with civility -- it has everything to do with civility. that is the one thing that we have forgotten to do in washingtond.c.. [applause] >> the whole notion of compromise seems to of gotten a dirty name on both the far right and far left. we would not have a united states of america if our forbearers had not been willing to compromise.

small states against large states, north versus south. and almost fell apart. but they decided we had more in common. before chasing gold country. -- they forged a single country. it is american. i have been on the intelligence committeeor 10 years. i hope that is not it's an oxymoron. we are at an inflection point. you are privy to some information that you normally would not have access to. when you see and read what the chinese leadership says, they really do think we are a declining power. they think going forward, we will continue to be a military power.

but because of our inability to deal with our financial imbalances and energy independence, they think that we will be an eclipse and less and less significant. that has profound adverse implications for our future. we must not let that happen. that is number two. i am sometimes asked, what is it going to do to make things better? you have the far right out there and the far left. i should give you the names of the least half a dozen republicans. i can give you the name of lots of democrats, same kind of thing. what needs to change? if you see people out there who are being partisan or ideological, do not support them.

supports the same candidate regardless of party. that is what needs to happen. drawing the their raging center. harry truman used to say that the united states of america, it is not the politicians who run the government. it is the people the politicians, we are just a hired help. tell the hired help what to do. [applause] >> if youan believe this, there is someone by the name of show that wants to make one other point. but by the name oa joke. >> rick warren gave a sermon one time.

are you on the right wing or the left wing? they kept talking about the different wings. if a bird had just a right wing or left wing, what would it do? it would be going in circles. i want bad bird to have both wings. that is what -- i want that person to have both wings. thank you for starting this. let's keep it going. [applause] >> thank you very much. a great conversation am. thank you for having us. we appreciated. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] >> great job. thank you very much.

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