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inevitable aspect of no stahl jay. an extraordinary experience for me is coming to an end. but my dominant feeling is pride in the great privilege to be a part of this very unique behind. >> hear from retiring senators on the c-span video library. with every c-span program since 177. more than 160,000 hours. all online. all free. it's washington, your way. >> you're watching c-span. bringing you politics and public affairs. every morning it's "washington journal." a live call-in program about the news of the dayal connecting you with elected officials and policy makers jurenledists. watch the house. every weeknight congressional hearings and policy forums. on the weekends you can see our
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>> diane abbott, what does it mean to shadow minister for health? >> when you mean shadow, what do you do? do you have a budge set in do you have a staff? >> sadly, i have no budget. but i am related house of budget and i have a small staff so i am the spokesman on legislation coming through on issues in the media. i'm part of the top team of the labour party now. >> why did you run for the house of champions in the first place? >> why did i sflun i wanted to speak up for people who didn't have a voice. and i became an m.p. years ago. there were very few women out of 350 there were about 20 labor women, and there no black people at all. and i was the first black woman elected to parliament. i was very proufment because i
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wanted to speak up for people who wouldn't have goten heard otherwise. >> first back woman to be in the parliament of this country. >> yes. >> and i was elected 150 years after the abolition of slavery in the british empire. 10eu9 shows you there's such a thing as progress. where is your constituency? >> it's in a very poor part of london. a very large minority community very high unemployment. when i was selected, which was all the way back in 186, that district believed that they wanted a representative who was selected from the district that had a wonderful member of parliament well into the 170's. but they felt in 19 6 that it was going to be a change of action. and they wanted a change candidate. but i should say that it wasn't
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an all-black district by any manner of means. that's never been the case in britain that black minority candidates can only get elected in black districts. it was a very diverse district and i got many votes. >> how many? >> about 65,000 people. >> what does it cost you to run? >> well, we have really tough campaign finance rules. when you're running. as a member of parliament. congress -- [inaudible] and the amount of money you can spend is fixed. and it's calculated according to your population. and -- nobody else knows political action. your national party is not
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allowed to run ads in your campaign. your can't buy television time if you're a british candidate. people can't buy television time on your behalf. and the fist time i ran for parliament which was years ago, i remember as if it was yesterday. it was 45,000 pounds and in the congressional election you can go only a few days on 4 -- >> you would have been close to $8,000. >> yes. >> but how do you raise it? >> oh, the party raises it. the party raises it through bake sales and -- i mean, the campaigns in this country are very much door-to-door. because you don't have television or a huge budget. it's about going door-to-door. nowadays of course, you can have like a campaign website,
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but the districts are smaller. so you very much rely on door-to-door. and the national party gets the business of the nation. -- if we're talking about local members of parliament, we have tough campaign rules. i can't imagine if i had to raise a lot of money that a radical young back woman would have gotten elected 22 years ago. >> to pour money into the parties, i mean, is there a limit to how much you can end? a cam pain? >> yes. my first campaign years ago was 4 1/2,000 pounds and it's very strictly policed because at the end you have to submit all the campaign accounts and if anybody can find that you have spent money that you don't account for then your campaign is automatically struck down.
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that's happened once. a woman got elected and her own party members complained she used cars and hadn't put anytime her account and her election was struck down. so the trance parentsy makes it very easy to police and people can't put extra money into your campaign, because you'd have to declare it. >> we mentioned you're very much connected into the american media. >> yes. it all goes back to the democratic primaries and obama. i mean, i was so astounded. when obama ran. and i went online, and i heard him speak. i was completely spellbound. after that, i followed it relentlessly. i followed it on the b.b.c. and world -- but went online and listened to american media like
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p.b.s. and c-span, i had an would download it and listen on my mp3 player. >> how often do you do that? >> i listen almost every day to mpr, washington week with gwen ifill. and "feet in press" and cyst jan ahman pour. >> obama's made me rivetted. >> we found in our ar ky an appearance you made the 1994 on the c-span next, and i want to run it and let you see not only what you looked like back in 94 but what you were talking about then. >> diane abbott you are a member of the british champions and i happen to be a minority
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member here in britain. does it patter in you are an ethnic minority? any different from other members? >> well, you've got to remember when i was elected in 1987 to serve my colleagues, it was the first time certainly the people of african descent went to british parliament and i think there was a great deal of nervousness about her coming. in 9 7 there were irish m.p.'s and they disrupted the place and kept it generally created mayhem andty think they felt it was the second coming of the irish and the speaker took good care to give us all a drink early on when we all started and so -- that's the best part. they thought we were quite pleasant. so it is sort of calmed down
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but both by -- but i mean the thing to remember about the house of champions. it's not about color so much as it's about change. i mean, we every peg has a big loop of red ribbon and the little red ribbon is is to hang up your sword. no one's had a sword in 200 years but certainly having m.p.'s of color in 1987 was a big change. >> what's happened to the parliament since? 16 years ago in the way of minority members? >> well, there's a great many more members of minority now on both sides of the aisle. the conservative party now the ruling party has done very well actually. about half a dozen back minority members when they didn't have any when i first came in. on my side.
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there has been an advance. not as many as i think there should be, but it's a big advance since when i first started. >> well, you are aware of what goes on in the united states. we have over 40 members in the house of representatives out of 435. what's the total number? i think i read it was 3% of 646 members. >> i think it's about. i think that it's about 20. 20-something now. >> so under your system, how do you get more minorities elected? >> well, what the party did was put a lot of pressure on the local organization to -- but we don't have the united states which is districts which are almost entirely minority and will under most circumstances elect a minority member. we don't have that sort of district here, because we don't have the kind of history of segregation and so on. so in the labour party, progressive.
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then in the conservative party. i think they began in the 21st century make things more diverse. so they encouraged is probably the politest thing to select minorities and -- >> what did you think of what you said 16 years ago? >> it's true. they really thought. because the irish that came in in the 19th century were republicans, and they were terrified of them and they were terrified of us coming in. and were as i say thought we were going to be disrupting. >> what issues are the most important to you. what issues are the most important to you? >> the most important issues to me are speaking up for my district. particular, speaking up for the poor. the marginalized. i am very concerned about civil liberties. i was against the iraq war.
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and i'm very concerned about equality. and justice. >> so what's the district look like? we call themal districts. you call them constituency. what's the makeup? >> traditionally, the people that lived in my district worked in the dark and in small workshops. now have some very high unemployment. because part of the employment in poor districts have changed. and jobs have moved away. in materials of the makeup of my district, traditionally, it was actually a center of jewish migration. i have one of the oldest synagogues in london in my district. but largely that has moved away apart from those vibrant jewish community in my district. and the they are the largest
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community in europe. but because they like to live near their synagogues, because they have to walk to them, they stay put. so the traditional jewish are there. but like those you have in brooklyn are still there. but it's also hard to swing a large community of color originally a lot of people from the west indies, but now from south africa, south asia. vietnamese. they are in the district in fact, the real minority inmy district is white anglo sacksen. >> the paper, "the sun," and i just read this, white britain's the minority by 66 that's 2066. >> well, i think these are scare stories about migration are very wrong. and migration whether it's
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those who come to work in our financial services or french businessmen. whether it's vietnamese shop keepers. whether it's african parenters. london, like new york, is a great city precisely because of migration. i think there are right wing politicians that want to stir up concern but it would be surprising if epping land, which is the center of an empire and on a whole number of trading crossed the atlantic want very diverse country. >> what's the different feel for somebody in your position that you're now not only a minority but in the minority in the government. in other words, you were as a labour party members for years. 11 years that you were in the zort and tony blair was the prime minister. what's the feel that -- >> it is very different being
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in opposition. we were on the different side of the aisle. we were setting the agenda. dathe cameron and -- who does things that are very different but we're fighting to get back. i must say looking at the clip of mow in 1994, it did bring commands in the early 1990's. i had a brilliant intern called terry sule. >> now all these years later, she has just been elected as a congresswoman from alabama. i believe she's the first black congresswoman in alabama since reconstruction. and she was a brilliant young woman, and i'm really pleased to see that she's going to be serving her country at that level of congress. >> how did she become elected? >> she wrote to me. she was studying at oxford at the time and wrote the me she wanted to be my intern. she was a great person who except contact all these years,
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and i know she's going to be a bill i can't congresswoman. >> in the house of representatives, they have 18-30 members on her staff. when she was an intern how many people did you on your staff? >> about half a dozen now i would call her a friend. >> did you teach her anything? >> well, i hope maybe. maybe she picked up a little bit about what it is to be a black woman in politics and how you have to carry yourself. i hope i helped her a little bit. >> what's the difference in your opinion from being a black woman in politics and a white guy in politics. >> very hard to stay in obscurity. all your mistakes are made the public glare and the community has very high expectations. so it's a privilege and honor but also hard. >> are you aware you're in a minority as you walk around the house of champions?
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>> at cambridge, i -- years before it was common to see. so i long ago learned to just take notice of people looking at me. when my friends came in for coffee they said people are always looking at you. >> but i just ignored it. you have to do what you want to do. carry yourself in a humble but, you know, assured manner. and you can't let other people put you off. >> just a short time ago you ran for the leader of your party. >> yes. >> explain what you were doing. >> well, we had lost the last election and they needed -- so we had a leadership election. it was not quite the system you had in the united states. but it did mean traveling all around the country speaking to party members and trying to win support. now after the election there was three or four men
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[inaudible] but i was concerned that there was no woman. they were all guys. second of all, they were all what you would call inside beltway. sort of insiders. i thought [inaudible] parties of broader candidates but most important i had a political message that i wanted to be heard. a political message of the only ones of candidates against the iraq war that stood up for civil liberties and was concerned about equality and diversity. first off i had a progressive message that needed to be heard and put myself in leadership and went up and down the country for months. >> did the others go with you? >> yes. the way the party organized this was all the meetings we all went together. so party members would see or -- the platform and judge
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between the five of us. so although we were ogsing other meetingsing there were 50 meetings where we all sat on a platform and party members had opportunities to question us all and see us all side-by-side. >> i listened to the speech that you gave to party convention, and one of the things fetishes my memory -- you were talking about was it red head? >> or -- >> [inaudible] always has something to say saying he's a dangerous liberal and he's progressive it's not true and it's not fair. he's a map of center. i am a progressive. but i support [inaudible] >> what's the difference being a man at the center or being a progressive? >> well -- >> and the kind of things you're for that a center person wouldn't be for. >> well, i'm against the war. he supported the war at the
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time. i have set out against what i consider to be infridgement of liberties. the long campaign about -- in this country about gone gone -- gone gone moe bayh -- guantanamo bay. and i believe personally -- i think that coming out of the credit crunch. because we all that had same collapse. coming out of this credit crunch, we shouldn't be just expecting ordinary people to take a hit. we should actually be putting up taxes on bankers and making bankers pay some of the costs that its cost this country to
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bailout banks. i think we should bear down on bonuses. and [inaudible] >> you said something in your speech about this 90-day detention without trial. what is that? >> that was something that the last labor government tried to bring in on the backers -- on the back of 9/11 and the fear of terrorism. they wanted to bring in 90 days detention for terror suspects. i thought that was appalling and an appalling example to set for the rest of the world. and i defeated it. and the speech i made against this, i won an award for it as the parliamentry speech of the year. >> why? >> because it was quite a good speech. >> and when did you give it? >> when did i win the astpwhard >> no. when did you give the speech? >> in parol ment and would have been in 1998.
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>> so the idea was that -- one out things you talked about in your speech was 90 days detention without trial did not become effective in this country? >> we blocked it. we blocked it on the floor of the mouse. on the floor of the house. partly by opposition members but also by the labour party members who stood up to their own party and said we are not doing this. britain is better than this. we cannot detain 0 days people -- -- people for 90 days without telling them what the charges are. i think we were right. >> let me show a clip from that speech. when did you give this speech? >> i think it was 1998. >> i'm sorry. the speech you made for the party mom snation >> oh. i gay this speech this year in the summer.
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>> i gave this speech in the summer. this year. >> my parents, immigrated to this country from jamaica. over 50 years ago. they were that generation of west indian ip grants that hoped the rebuild a public services after the war. and they would have been so proud to see their daughter contend for the leadership of one of the greatest socialist parties in europe and the party they loved. [applause] but we face now george osbourne's cuts which will be demailed a very few weeks, and these will become of the magnitude that we have not seen in our lifetime. and of course, there is no question that we would have had to have taken tough action on the deficit. but let us be clear and let us
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keep repeating. these are not inevitable cuts caused by labor [inaudible] these are ideal logical cuts. it is the intention to cut back the well fare states once and for all. >> there's a lot in there we can talk about. starting with your parents. when did they come to great britain? >> my parents were amongst the first wave of west indians that came to britain in 1951. they both came from the same village in rural jamaica. they came to britain separately but met and fell in love and married. my father worked in a factory all his life. my mother was a nurse. they themselves had left school at 14 but instilled in me the importance of hard work. the importance of as operation. and the importance of getting an education. >> so how did you get into
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cambridge? >> well, ip went to local public schools. ordinary schools. i was [inaudible] and in the books i read the people went to western cambridge. so i thought why not me? so i thought why not me? i went to my teachers. and i remember one teacher looking at me and saying i don't think you're up to it. which is very unusual for someone from my background, working class to go to the top university. but i looked them in the eye and said well, i think i am and that's what my decision is. so i wanted to take a special exam. go up and be interviewed. but i was successful. and i went up to study at cambridge university. the only black girl my year. >> the only -- and you went to
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an all-woman's school. >> yes. >> as a matter of fact i got a big kick out of this morning. i won't show it. but in "the sun" they have an article about the -- i can just flash it to you there. the 40th university of -- anniversary of page three. but the article was written by an alum of the same -- >> the college is named -- >> jermaine greer. >> for those who don't know what page three is in the sun every day they have a photograph of a bear-chested woman and every one of them were white. is that the case every day that they are white is this the >> very unusual to see one of those pin-up girls to be a woman of color. >> probably -- >> why is it so popular in this country? >> i think in many ways britain's more open around
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issues of sex than maybe america . but -- of course, [inaudible] and he'll do anything to get people to watch his tv station. >> that's his 40th anniversary. >> a lot of guys buy the sun just for the bear-chested ladies. form, they don't read the stuff in between. >> there were a lot of well-known names on that list of alums from your college. what was the nail of the college? >> [inaudible] all sorts of academics. and scientists have been there. it was -- it's been a leading women's college since victorian times. >> so how did you get interested in reading? >> always loved reading and loved books. my main ambition when i leave politics is to write. because i think there's something about the written word. even now. there's something about the
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written word. that's permanent. it allows you to reflect. so amazing ambition. when i leave politics is to write. >> i believe that if you don't know where you're coming from, you don't know where you're going. aye always loved history. >> what part of history is your snavert >> i suppose i'm interested in british history and 19th century history because that was when britain was moving from being a [inaudible] to being an industrial society. that was from socialism and organized labor. so yes. i nuned very fascinating. >> what part of american history have you read? >> well, i read about [inaudible] the trade union organizers and again that was when america sacrificed for their rights.
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people that had [inaudible] years what happened they used to call the [inaudible] of great wealth. >> so what did you learn in history that you've applied to your own life in the champions? >> i think what i've learned from history is the enact it can take an awful long time to make change. but change eventually does come. the soppings i associate with president obama's campaign and one was a sam cook song called "change is going to come." so change, but you have to be patient. the other thing i learned about history is that you have to hold on to your beliefs. in my speech to my -- this summer. i quoted from a page from kennedy, a speech he gave when he conceded the leadership of the democratic party.
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in that contested election. i think he finishes by saying the dream shall never die. even recent history can teach you. edward kennedy even at the point of his greatest lost loss, this is the beginning of his life as a tremendous speaker in american politics and i thought he couldn't have a more appropriate speech for a woman to quote from. >> who are the people in history that in the british history for that matter, that you're the fondest of? >> well, brits have some very interesting female political figures. there were queens, most of them. but queen victoria. mrs. thatcher. but as an extraordinary thing when she did it to -- her party. dominate all of those guys.
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she was really a little bit like the nancy pelosi of her kind. and in more generally, i [inaudible] political figure, and we have a quiet understated leader of the war -- [inaudible] he was understated but he was the most progressive leader that we ever had ae was the one that brought in [inaudible] health care. >> when you look across the pond to the united states. what do you make of president obama's victory? >> i thought it was incredible. i thought president obama -- first of all, president obama is like the clinton machine. extraordinary. i -- blow-by-blow following it on british media and did what people thought he couldn't do. defeated the most powerful machine in american politics then went on to defeat george w. bush and -- in the media.
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stuff about his past. rumors running on the internet. yet he drove through any one. and the night he won. the night he gave his speech, i was watching it at a friend's home, and i was in tears. and most people knew i was texting people across the world. and we were all in tears. a fantastically moving moment for people of color. >> what's the impact around the world that you know? what do people say who have followed that who are in minorities that the intact has been on the way people view the united states? >> first of all. i think people of color in minorities around the world. it's made them think a little better for america. because nobody believes it's been completely erat indicated. yet the majority were able to rise above the history and
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maybe some of their prejudices. but it says something about the american capacity. i think if you're a mother or parent, the idea that a black man can be the leader of a free world is a fantastic model and encouragement to young black men everywhere. and around the world people of color often have to read and hear quite negative things about black people in america and black people in generally. and here you have this wonderful family in the white house. michele. barack and the two girls. thavend marvelous black family is such a great, great thing to see. and i think all around the world, one of the thing that remains all around the world people of color have always had tremendous pride and a great sense of ownership in the barack obama presidency. >> what kind of special requirement do you put on yourself because you were the first black person elected to
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the british house of champions? >> well, the special requirement i put on myself and i have put on myself ever since i came down to university is i should the tpwhave such a way, take on the right battles. be brave enough. 3w courageous enough so that for the nextgen ration of black women that come after me, things will be a little bit easier. >> so what did you notice when you were in cambridge? >> there were black people at my college but most other black people were post graduates who came from overseas. i never met anybody who was actually back and brought up in britain who got there. it was a very kind of elite university. but it's snill good sted. because since leaving there i've had to [inaudible] and cambridge taught me thousand handled myself. >> give me an example of how you handled yourself in
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circumstances because you wore were in an elite -- >> you don't let anything intimidate you. it's just how not to be intimidated and how to give me the courage to let myself gnawed zaud so as a shadow cabinet member of the labour party and your responsibility is public health. describe it. what's that mean? >> well, issues around obesity, things like alcoholism. drug abuse. around maternity. about vaccination and immunization programs. dealing with health care in poor areas and rich areas. it's all all of the health issues that concern the public. all of those issues. >> you have on your website at
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the bottom i read this. this is what it said. advice surgery for con constituents. >> what that means is every week i have an open session. i'm in my office. and constituents can come to me with advice on their problems be it problems with their housing, police, benefits, their schools. it's just an advice-giving session. and we have it every week, and it helps me to keep close to what's happening on the ground in my district. >> because you say housing, immigration or health or welle fare or rights. what are they saying to you after the coalition announce fed here in and as you promised george osbourne the new government were going to announce the cuts, what are people now coming to you in this advice session that is a
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direct result of the cuts? >> they are frightened for their jobs. because one of the things the new zpwoft going to do is make very big cuts in scrobs in the publicing secter. and some government departments are going to lose 20%-307 and most people in my district who work, work for the government some form or fashion. hospitals, schools, government departments. and they are very frightened for their jobs. that's the big thing. >> so what special payments are there in this country for either children or older people. old people? >> well, in this country we have benefit payments for unemployed people, and obviously we pay an old age pension to the elderly. and again, the other thing people are worried about apart from their jobs is the fact that people are worried about how they are going to manage and how much worse the situation is going to get. >> so how much does an older
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person get? >> it's a standard. you get a standard amount of money. i think it's about 70 poucheds a week for a single person. >> so you're talking about $10 a week? >> well, they can also get ore payments. they can get a payment to help them with fuel in the winter. but the basic payment is about $70 pounds a week. what's happened is the basic payment but other pails they could get when payments for medical conditions or help with other things. they are being cut back and people are worried about them. >> what are some of the complaints you're geting in your office? >> they are just worried about how they are going to manage without a job. people are very concerned that the government has tripled the amount people have to pay. people are worried about the future. in my district we had an
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unprecedented high turnout in 20 years and i doubled my majority with an increased election and came out in order support me. also to support my party. because they knew that this government was coming in and it's not good for poor people. >> because you seem to know a lot about the united states and how we govern. what's the difference in the two countries? im, you started out by talking about the money, which is considerably different. what else is different about politics in this country versus the united states? >> we don't have a religious rithe. and issues like abortion are not part of political. we have -- [inaudible] this country. and people sometimes get to debate about the time because you can't have an abortion in this country easily. if the child is -- if the child
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in the wurem is too far advanced. but it's a woman's right to choose. they have a religious right promoting it. there's no idea in this country about the right to bear arms. gun troll control is not an issue in this country, because it's very unusual. outside of the country people need guns to shoot. there's no issue about gun control. the number of people killed by guns in london in a year is probably something like people killed by ghuns new york in months, i would have thought. 10 abortion, the right to bear arms. the whole issue of civil partnerships and gay marriage and we've had a form of it for years and years. these are not subject ins dispute. all of these, i pose lifestyle
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ethics issues are not politicized if this country. >> why not? >> because the british don't think it's right. they think these are matters of conscience. one issue of abortion came up before the british parliament and people were [inaudible] but the majority of m.p.'s are in faye of it. we don't have a death penalty. we haven't had it for years and years. because the british don't think it's right or humane. >> no death penalty. the abortion issue. has it ever been a political issue? >> no. >> have you ever had to vote on it in the parliament for anything? >> we've had votes on it. but the people that want to have the woman's right to choose have always won easily. >> why do you think there's not a religious right that's vocal in this country? >> i don't think the british think it's good mix religion
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and politics. and i don't see anything around the twhoorled makes me think it's wrong. >> how about the fact that you have an official church in that country and members of the anglican church or members of the house of lords and would that be a predominant religion by foreign country? >> well, many my district i have a fairly large jewish community. . .
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>> once you win the election, you have power. you do not have this power. we have an unwritten constitution but the party that wins the election provides the cabinet ministers. i think we will see a lot more activism and demonstration. i think there has been some anger. people will look for leadership from parliament. >> talk about money. are you saying that money is no
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issue when it comes to politics? we do not have the dramatizing. all you have in the course of an election is [unintelligible] it eliminates the need to spend a lot of money. on a local level, there is a limit on how much you can spend. money plays a much smaller role in this election than it does in america. >> how much do they pay you for
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your job? somewhere close to $110,000? is that enough to live on comfortably? >> i think so. >> you had so many differences to the united states, the monday in the campaign, no religious rights and gun laws, no death penalty, we have taken a lot of what the petition lines in history have suggested in formulated our own government. what is more alike than different?
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regulatory agencies that regulate the media, energy, the government? >> in the media, you can have -- you cannot have a specialized force. [unintelligible] >> do you feel that it is balanced? >> it is somewhat balanced in the news. >> americans say it is free to say what you want to say or have a gun in your house.
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the first amendment protects speech. you should be able to spend whatever you want on politics. >> it is a freedom at the expense of the poor. how many americans believe that barack obama is a muslim? people are accustomed to hearing things without contradiction. >> you see tight security in parliament. but when you ride the subway, it does not seem very secure. you had a tragic subway where a terrorist blew
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up 150 people or something like that. >> there is a different view with regard to the americans. [unintelligible] they had to get back on the savoy. british people are a little bit more pragmatic about the environment. we just get on with it. >> what impact did 9/11 half of the world? it was quite unpopular in this
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excitement about the sweating? they expect a billion pounds to come to the city. >> i wonder. the government is cutting back and wonder if they will have a more modest wedding. i am not sure that the country is in the mood for something very extravagant. >> what do your constituents think of loyalty? >> they have a lot of respect for the queen. she has been there for over half a century. the younger world is probably less respectful.
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