side-step them which is exactly the freedom that i and others have argued passionately in this house over the years and which we now has a government wishes to enjoy if all goes well. but the honorable gentleman has said that these reductions could -- now, as a member of parliament believe it or not i didn't come here to have teachers sacked from my schools or doctors sacked from my surgeries. i want them to be well paid for, well funded and for there to be sensible growth in numbers where we have extra demand. where all of that view and it's quite misleading the party opposite suggest some of us don't appreciate that is well for our constituents. but it has to be affordable. it has to be within the power of the free enterprise economy to pay for out of reasonable taxation in a way which doesn't damage our growth, which is why it's so important. now, what is so crucial as the government has managed to find an extra 70 billion of cash spending for the fifth year of

the plan compared with the start year, it is crucial that we keep public sector costs down so that the maximum amount of that money can go to improving service quality and in some cases improving the amount of service and the minimum amount of it goes in extra costs and extra inefficiencies. and now all parties will say in office that they wish to have more efficiently run public services that they not only have to will the end but they have to will the means. that is why the reforms that this government is embarking on are so important. crucial that the government should listen. crucial that sensible criticisms are taken on board. but the public services had to be reformed so that we can say to people in five years' time, you are getting more for that extra 70 billion. we haven't had to cut things that really matter because we managed it better and we found a bit of extra money. >> i'm very grateful for my right honorable friend once again for giving way.

is he aware of the enormous interests that exists among the purified economy for reform of it itself. i have had a successive group of gentlemen saying why can't we be allowed to save money and the reason is because of this enormously expensive procurement process. in the case of schools, not a single school has been built recently which does not have an atrium and the reason is because it's been decided that schools which have not to do with corporations, nothing could be sillier or resistant to good government spending. >> i think my right honorable friend is quite right. improving the quality and cost-effectiveness of our purchasing is crucial in government. and there are many opportunities. and they provide some good examples but so does general purchase. i think it would be a good idea to speed the deficit reduction if there could be a stronger moratorium on purchasing items

and supplies where there are already stocks in any company undertaking that radical turn-around this country is trying to do would immediately freeze all unnecessary purchases and make people run the stocks down so that we could save some money. we see that the current rate of natural wastage of staff in the corps departments where i've got answers to questions is running about 6% per annum. we have 4% in the first 8 months. quite a number of those posts have been filled by taking on new people from our side. i would urge my ministerial friends on the front bench because the easiest way to reduce the administrative head on the scale, the least painful way for their staff who need to have their morale up is not to replace people who leave and not to make other people redundant. we can't afford the redundants and if we make great use of natural wastages. ministers can say to their save

it means better opportunities for promotion. better opportunities for a change of job. if it's not an essential one you remove the post. if it is a essential one you appoint someone from the inside and remove some other less important post. that surely is the civilized and sensible way to tackle the very necessary task of cutting the administrative overhead. if the government can cut its administrative overhead by the very large percent he's talking about it takes the pressure off in the cuts in the areas none of us which to see in the schools, in the hospitals and the front line services that matter so much. the question i was about to ask before the intervention was, what is the international context going to be like? how easy is it going to be for these government to have three or four years of above-average growth? and here i must warn the front bench that i fear that the world background is going to get more difficult going into 2012 and

2013 than it is at the moment. we had a very prolonged boom in the emerging market world and we now see china and india and brazil lifting their rates at very high levels and they are desperately trying to squeeze inflation out of their system and we must anticipate some falloff in demand on spending and growth rates in those big emerging market economies. the united states' economy is going to have a very good year by the looks of it on the back of a lot of money printing very low interest rates and other matters. that comes to an end in the middle of this year so i think by next year, we will be seeing a slower rate of growth in the united states of america as well. a worthy situation in the middle east to get worse and for the damage from oil fields outside of libya and we may have another shock on the oil price which could serve to impede the growth of the economy.

so the conclusion i take from this is that the world economy doesn't know if it's going to go back into another deep recession. we're not going to have another impossible situation but the world economy is not going to provide the impetus that it's currently providing. it may not feel that great but it is providing quite a bit of impetus at the moment. it will be providing less impetus next year and beyond. that means that the chancellor has to intensify his pursuit of measures which make the u.k. that much more competitive and that much more successful. >> thank you, mr. deputy speaker. and would my right honorable friend also comment on the importance of improving our import positions vis-a-vis the countries brazil, russia, china and what important part that could play in our recovery? ..

the loorger companies tend to go into brazil and india and china and set up factories of their own there. it would be easier to service those markets. but i a2003 with my friend, it would be good if we could help more and help those who don't have the capability to set up factories on the other side of the world, to do it on their terms. we have had one nasty result, which is a much higher

inflation result, but it's given us one pleasant result that it is easier to export, so we should have that on our side. >> it does need to find skilled engineers who want to want to work in an advisory background and then expand the capability of their companies as a result. modern manufacturing requires a very high degree of skill

input. it doesn't require so much manufacturers to operate the machines. the easiest way to compete on a german or british base instead of a highly-animated plant so your labor costs are low but your skill content and of course the equipment content is much higher, but it is affordable with a quality product. >> to the point you just made, one from -- gave a speech that he has many spots engineers can't fill. that's a legacy of too many years where we haven't

delivered practical education as required. >> i'm very happy with that proposal what i wish to stress is that the government is clearly on the right line. i hope it's going to be with cross-party agreement that we're going to raise our game at schools and training and those places where we would have a bigger advantage if we do more. yes, we need to review how easy it is to fill the factory and equip it and anything that can be done to lower the tax rate on business is going to make brit an more attractive place to be. and those members of common know i would like take the revenue and the lower rate you can set, the more revenue growth and overall growth you

are going to have. it would be a great tragedy to abort the recovery in certain sectors because tech rates are too high. we need to see the progress on the tax and look at how the carbon tax rebait would work, because of course if we went ahead as trail blazers in brit and set a high carbon price, we would turn it into a less-clean or less-acceptable venue. important that the rebates and discounts are properly thought through so at a time they are trying to promote industry, it is not taxing it too heavily. >> on c-span today, canada's government presents its government plan. then washington journal live with your phone calls. later today a round table discussion with the mayors of

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stream all the winning videos anytime online at student cam.org. >> members of canada's ruling conservative government took questions yesterday in the house of commons. this comes a day after the finance minute stir presented the government's annual budget, which all three opposition parties said they'll vote against. from the canadian house of commons in ottawa, this is 45 minutes. >> the honorable leader of the opposition. [applause]

>> there's nothing support our health system, and these are the priorities of canadian families. why is this prime minister out of touch and out of control? [applause] >> the honorable government house leader. >> mr. speaker, this focuses on the priorities of canadians. whether it's our most vulnerable senior citizens living inport, there's help for them. whether it's support for health care which will have risen by 36%, mr. speaker, an unprecedented -- you will not know because he was not here, cut health care by $25 million. and i know -- [inaudible]

>> honorable leaders of the opposition. >> mr. speaker, the priorities of this government make no sense to canadians. they spent more in a single day at the g-20 than they spend on seniors in a year. they are about to spend a thousand times more on check than helping students get a college or university education. nobody can understand those priorities. why is this prime minister so out of touch? [applause] >> order. >> the honorable government house leader. >> mr. speaker, the -- into a reckless election. that, mr. speaker in the interest of hard-working canadians. they said seniors needed to not live in poverty.

the volunteer firefighters need support and men and women in our hospitals need a -- the liberal leader should put aside his own narrow partisanship and support this budget. [applause] >> the honorable leader of the opposition. we cannot support this budget, mr. speaker, because these priorities are bad for canadians. why more for prison than youth crime sfleevepks nothing for day care but billions for jet fighters, megaaprisons and gifts for large corporations. why is this prime minister so disconnected from canadians? >> the liberal party cannot find billions of dollars for

these alleged prisons. let's look at what canadians are saying about the budget. -- for standing up for the opposition call to -- business tax relief. the canadian business congress. this is a win for every single senior living in poverty. mr. speaker. the honorable leader of the opposition. >> mr. speaker, we have another problem with this government. mr. carson is being investigated. a former chief of staff of the prime minister, for the prime minister's closest advisors may end up in prison for electoral

flaws. thoughts. government is just a breath away from being found in -- parliament. will they finally admit their responsibility for their abuse of power. the honorable government house leader. >> mr. speaker, we will not tolerate anyone breaking the law. we brought in top reforms, mr. speaker, to make canada's government more accountable. we believe in those reforms. when these allegations were brought to our attention, we immediately informed the authorities. that was the right thing to do, mr. speaker. another right thing to do would be for this leader of the opposition to put aside his calls for the government and get behind our jobs-creating -- contained in the budget. >> the honorable leader of the opposition. >> mr. speaker, the problem here is the government is on the edge of being found in

contempt of parliament. they are investigating the prime minister's former chief of staff four of the closest collaborators of the prime minister face election fraud. after the pattern reveals for the canadians, is it any wonder that this government will be rewarded with contempt in return. >> the honorable -- [inaudible] >> the honorable government house leader. the leader of the liberal party who is showing contempt for -- he doesn't accept the fundamental democratic -- he wanted to establish a coalition government to -- and now, mr. speaker, the coalition is back again, mr. speaker. that shows utter contempt for canadians. what would be the right thing for canadians is to get behind the people and create jobs and

opportunity. >> the honorable member for [inaudible] >> mr. speaker, the government tabled a budget yesterday that is indifferent to the needs of quebecers. this budget confirms what we've known for a long time. the conservatives let quebec down. does the prime minister realize this bad budget combined with many instances of discontent for parliament and democracy confirm one thing that the poem can no longer trust government. >> mr. speaker, my threag minister of finance, tabled a budget yesterday that perfectly matches the as operations and priorities of quebecers. economic recovery, job creation, mr. speaker. a low-level, accessible-level

of taxation. and in each case when we table a budget, -- the honorable member. >> well, what he's just said is false. 2007, we, after 3.7 billion, we got 3.3 and supported it. so he continues to spread lies. this government mocking the people and the house of commons . it spent millions of taxpayers none a pre-election campaign. it made sure it tabled a budge heat the would be unacceptable for the opposition parties and the prime minister has the gall to repeat once again that he doesn't want elections. does he not realize that by acting like this he's lost the confidence of quebecers. >> the honorable minister of foreign affairs. >> mr. speaker, for the past 20

years, we've heard the same nashing of teeth and the same peach -- same speech phiing from this party. what has he done for the quebec in the last 20 years? nothing. zero. >> order, please. order. >> the honorable member for -- >> mr. speaker, we don't live on our knees. we live standing up. this conservative government couldn't care less about quebec. nothing stopped it from the tax harm nighization, but they are just fooling around here in ottawa. if the government wanted to avoid elections, all it had to do was compensate quebec to the tune of $2.2 billion.

doesn't the prime minister realize his indifference to quebec will provoke elections and quebecers will decide. the honorable minister of finance. >> order. >> we've had good discussions with the government of quebec, the minister of finance of quebec. regarding the h.s.c. we hope it will have an agreement very soon. we will continue our talks. with the quebec government, the honorable -- >> mr. speaker, they have been fooling around here for 20 years. they continue to help the wealthy, and tax cuts are maintained for oil companies. the banks can continue to stock pile fortunes in tax havens. but government continues to to refuse to pay its dead. -- to pay its debt.

he can help his croneys in the banks. either he can or he's acting in bad faith. the honorable minister of foreign affairs. >> mr. speaker, the mats will fall. this member of parliament was part of the p.q. government. there are others in that government that were part of the p.q. government. never did they ask for this. never did they ever spend for quebecers. they were industrial league door mats. >> the honorable member for toronto and for -- [inaudible] >> mr. speaker, this government and err canadian knew where we stood.

we wanted to make sure that this budget would be addressing the needs of middle class families and give them a break. in fact, too many people are out of work. yesterday the conservatives presented a job-killing budget that sucked far more out of the economy than it put back in. they missed their own job target by more than 240,000 jobs, dorning their own figures. why is this government putting the needs of that street ahead of the -- those out of work? >> mr. speaker, the leader of the fourth party, if he'd bothered to read the budget, he would know only 480,000 jobs had been created in this country. this is the best jobs creation record in the economies of the world. canada says this is the best

place to invest in the next five years. they look at our financial system and say this isn't just the best financial system in the g-7 or g-20ing, it's the best financial system in the world. >> the honorable member of toronto and -- order. >> mr. speaker, the minister knows he's not telling the truth, because one of his own ministers was in the room when we were studying. he knows full well that is not true. >> the prime minister knows full well the part-time jobs are at a record high. there are 150,000 full-time jobs fewer than before the recession. they do nothing to help the unemployed. but the banks and oil companies are still receiving big gifts. why does the prime minister prefer to go into an election rather than help families?

the honorable minister of finance. >> thank you. thank you, mr. speaker. once again, there is a tremendous benefit to reading the document. >> the very, as i said yesterday, it's not that long a read. it's one of the shorltest budgets that's happened in the last 20 years. there's a wonderful demart there that shows the job creation and shows what -- about 75% of those 480,000 jobs are full-time jobs. and high-paying jobs. >> the honorable member for toronto then for -- order. >> it just proves my point that they have not replaced the full-time work that was lost in the recession. and the middle class has suffered as a result. maybe he better read his own document. >> now the government has

prevented canadians from investing if the best retirement savings plan, the pension plan. the government wants to come up with their own scheme so -- street can get a slice. we proposed it. canadians wanted it. why wouldn't they deliver? >> the honorable minister of finance. >> once again, the leader of the fourth party is demonstrating his uncanny ability not to let the facts interfere with his argument. mr. speaker, we have negotiations ongoing with the government. taps member office should know, because he's been in this place long enough. he ought to know that the federal government cannot ewan laterally alter the canada pension plan. there are rules. they are constitutional. in a 2/3 of the -- and 2/3 in terms of population, we're

continuing to work with the [inaudible] >> the honorable member -- >> mr. speaker, on april 28, 2009, three months after bruce carson left the p.m.o., the minister of the environment had a bilateral meeting with the energy secretary. 11 people attended. senior officials were there with dr. which you, and two staff inductees. so was bruce carson, not the private citizen but introduced as special individualsor to francis. would the prime minister explain why he continues to enjoy access months after he was supposed to have left? >> the honorable government -- >> mr. speaker, there have been various allegations raised. matters incorrectly.

we -- every single canadian obey the law. matter of first priority. to table it. mr. speaker, we believe everyone should face a -- full force of law. >> honorable member from -- >> mr. speaker, five months later, the conservative sent mr. carson to yet another international climate change summit, this time as one of canada's four official delegates. mr. carson was there as a representative of the prime minister. but mr. carson's job was to advise the oil and gas industry, every canadian knows this is a conflict of interest. the prime ministero owes canadians an expla nation of hour, when and why mr. carson

was give then access in the first place. >> the honorable government house leader. >> mr. speaker, it's not unusual at times of change and -- to invite a number of people in the labor group. i remember when i was minister of the environment, even inviting the member from -- now the ditches is, when these delegates were there, they would spend half the the time there and go home. >> the honorable member -- >> he sfent rest of the year courting ministers. 2009, the department of energy and the united states lists mr.

carson as special advisor to the environment present during a meeting. mr. carson in september, didn't even take part in a multilateral state department meeting. carson went without him. when did mr. carson leave the government again? >> the honorable leader of the government. order. >> my friend has a rather interesting use of vocabulary. and a different sense of the word than i would have thought about in relation to this. here's what we know, mr. speaker, is serious allegations were raised. the prime minister did the right and proper thing and immediately referred the matter to the relevant authorities. i hope three things, they'll conduct an investigation of the matter and two, use the full extent of the law to anyone who broke it. >> the honorable member -- let's try something else, mr. speaker. the conservatives created the

canadian school of energy and environment. on its website we find carson's biography and i quote, since he joined the canadian school of energy he has had a number of roles at the request of the minister of the environment mr. francis and current and fortunatelier minister of natural resources. oops, the cat is out of the bag. carson now talks about the conservative quebecen and labor -- feel the need to confess to the house to tell them what's happening with their friend, carson. >> the honorable leader of the government in the house of commons. >> mr. speaker, these slanderous allegations made won't -- won't help a single senior living in poverty and won't help a volunteer firefighter. but -- mr. speaker in the liberal parties who get behind

us is the right thing for canadians. >> the honorable member for -- >> mr. speaker, the conservative government true to itself and continuing to ignore the you are intelligent needs of the unemployed and has set out nothing in its budget to help them. instead of improvements to the insurance employment program they will take money from the e.i. fund as the liberals did in order to subsidize those who are better off. does the government realize if it is different to workers in quebec, that could protect an election. the honorable minister of human resources. >> mr. speaker if the honorable member and his colleagues had taken the time to read yesterday's budget, they would have known that what was proposed in the budget is an extension of a number of things. for example. the two payment projects, for example, the targeted

initiative for a -- for example, the improvements to the program of work-sharing. which is going to help 280,000 people. but they have decided to vote against it. >> the honorable member. well, it's because we read it, mr. speaker, that we will vote against it. proposing reforms by the unions allow people to allow a year benefit for 360 hours of work that is not true, mr. speaker. for example, an unemployed worker who has just enough hours to qualify for the plan would only be entitled to three weeks. instead of masklinging its indifference with regard to -- the government to stop taking from the fund and instead improve the e.i. plan.

the honorable minister of human resources and quoment. mr. speaker, yesterday in the budget, we have put forward four proposals to improve and extend benefits under e.i. in order to help the unemployed throughout dan da, but mr. speaker, like usual, the bawk said they would vote against it. and they have already voted against the program to help hard workers. mr. speaker, they will always vote against the interests of the you know what i mean quebec and the ranges. it is scanned louse. >> the honorable member for -- the budget has nothing to relaunch the sector. barely $60 million for research when the conservatives were able to find $10 billion for the auto -- ontario centereds

auto industry. it has been condemned that they have chose on the throw the poorest of the poor ooh few crumbs. failing the needs of workers in the region and those affected by the needs. the honorable minister. >> mr. speaker, this -- they are trying to make canadians believe that it was -- they are just spreading misinformation, mr. speaker, in the auto industry we are heroin partners along with american companies. we are working in partnership. so in the fourth secondor, however, we are competitors. when will they understand that? that we found an agreement to affect the industry. and the liberals heading northern from 2000 to 2007. the honorable minister. >> the conservative budget does

not meet the needs of quebecians. the government is working to improve and for s.r.m.'s and imposed $400 million in the agricultural sector. the government has tabled a budget that completely ignores the needs of producers in quebec. >> the honorable minister of veterans affairs. mr. speaker, what government in its budget said, no tax increases? the conservative government. a government that says no tax increases? >> the conservative government did it. which government invested $50 million in innovation to help farmers? this government, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, we have presented a budget, a budget that meets the needs of canadians. in their daily lives, we are

helping caretakers, and families and all kinds of other people. there are other measures in the budget. >> we now know how the conservative government is going to pay for their corporate tax cuts. american-style prisons and on fighter jets. they are cutting services. service canada sites. cutting $70 million to marine icelandic. cutting $3 the million to acoa. $35 to -- the atlantic problems of the economic council says quote, little in this budget had direct benefit to an land tick canada. my question, how did the conservative m.p.'s allow this to happen? >> the honorable minister -- >> i guess, mr. speaker, my question for the member is how the people -- how the small business people in her writing

would feel about her not supporting a credit for hiring new employees? how would the volunteer firefighters under her region feel about her not supporting a credit for the hard work and sacrifice that they provide? how would they feel for her not supporting the great investments we've made in marine atlantic and the great work that's being done to promote the economy in her region? >> the honorable member. >> i can tell you how they feel about the increase to payroll taxings, mr. speaker. not only is this government slashing and burning funding for atlantaic canada. now we find out more abuse of power. the conservatives are under investigation by the public service commission for stacking the atlantic canada's opportunities agency with political appointments. mr. speaker, is there no end to

what this conservative regime will do to reward their cell phone? have they no shame? >> order. >> there's a bit of news for the honorable member. we are the first government to commit stable funding to important alcoa program such as the atlantic innovation fund, the international communities fund. we're the first government to invest where her government failed when it came to marine atlantic, we delivered on this side of the house. we're going to continue to deliver and support her constituents, even if she won't. >> the honorable member. order. >> the honorable member for bra sar -- >> mr. speaker, this regime will never learn. everything they don't like, they hide or deny. why is the minister refusing to table quite simply the

diagnostics done to the prisons. at least we would have an opportunity to see what's happening. well, they spend more on fighter jets instead of investing on this bridge. one, mr. speaker, fwave the workers in the montreal region have to go to work by swimming across? the honorable minister of transport. mr. speaker, the champagne is extremely important for entrepreneurs and for the people in the montreal region and also for the people in canada. we have invested a lot of money in the corridor because the brimming is extremely important. at the same time, mr. speaker, i have spoken with the quebec minister this morning.

because he doesn't seem to understand it's the most important infrastructure -- but they don't care. billions for fighter jets and megaaprisons, no problem, but when it comes time for people to come home every day and get to work every morning, they are happy with the old bridge. this is nonsense. stop playing with people's safety. when will the new bridge be built? >> the honorable member of transport. >> that's why when i spoke to the federal bridge authority, the engineers a month ago in quebec, they said the investments we kept in the bridge will keep it absolutely safe for the next 10 years. at the end of the month there

will be give on the us options for the brim. everybody knows the bridge will be rebuilt but does it contain light rail? a rapid transit snoppings a bus option? mr. speaker, those options will be presented to us and we'll of course work and in hand. >> the honorable member remains with -- >> this time it's on the budget, mr. speaker. another thing, the minister of affairs tell the -- what's in the budget help all the regions of quebec. the honorable minister.

of course we have a budget that takes into consideration the needs of canadians in their daily lives. be it a couple with a child who are studying. one who is taking other classes or other types of courses. there's a tax credit for that. be it for our seniors who need more money. if they are getting a guaranteed income supplement. another $600 per year. there are a number of measures, including no increases in taxes. we are a responsible government. the honorable member. >> mr. speaker, canada is one of the richest countries in the world. and yet we have hundreds of thousands of seniors who are living below the poverty line. during our meeting, they insisted this was a priority to us. it is unacceptable that in a

country as rich as canada, seniors in the country are being allowed to live in poverty. why does the government prefer to support an election than help those who live under the poverty line? >> the honorable minister of saint. >> mr. speaker, our government is committed to supporting seniors. we are proud of the fact that our actions have played a part in cutting the low income rate for seniors to 5.8% in 2008. one of the lowest rates in the world, mr. speaker. we have increased guaranteed increase benefit is upments, introduced pension income splitting, investing in homes. and we will keep working hard to deliver for seniors. as was in our budget yesterday. >> the honorable member. order. >> speaker, we have to ask the

conservatives what they are thinking. is this a tough on seniors policy? is it more important for them to give even more money to the chartered banks than they gave last year? they made $20 billion and used half for executive bonuses. next year they want to give a further $3 billion in corporate tax cuts. for every dollar they came up with for imof rished seniors, they found $10 for them. a country as rich as ours, that's just not acceptable. >> the honorable minister. >> mr. speaker, this is coming from a party who has consistently voted against any senior's help. and it's shameful. what we have done in our budget yesterday is elevated the poverty line for seniors. there will be 60,000 seniors across the country that will benefit from yesterday's budget commission.

>> the honorable member for -- >> mr. speaker, in a letter published by the press, the minister of transfer. engineers stated some sections of the bridge could collapse. the minister continues to claim the bridge is safe and building a new bridge can wait. does the disciplinester of transport realize it is tapering to the different needs of quebec that could protect an election? the honorable minister of -- >> it's important. that's why we've invested almost $10 million over the next years to make sure it stays safe. i am not an engineer. who do we ask? the engineers who inspect the bridge. we ask the government that works with us to make sure the bridge is safe. of course it will have to be

rebuilt in a long term but it is safe and we will work closely to make a long-term plan for a replacement in the years to come. >> the honorable member. >> they also managed to find the funds to build a new bridge and advanced $550 million. the house of missions paid its share. however, when it came to replacing the most heavily trafficed bridge in canada, located in quebec, they were unable to find the funds needed. when will the needs of quebec get the same attention of those of ontario and michigan? >> the honorable minister of transport. >> a good question. how much money are we going to spend on the new windsor bridge? won't have a single dollar in it. but the reason we're not saying this is because we're going to wait for the report to be tabled in the house.

we will have offers -- options presented to us. they will be design ideas, whether it should include a railway or rapid transit. mr. speaker, there's lots of options, but we're certainly not going to go into this willy nily while the current bridge is safe. >> the honorable member for hall elmer. mr. speaker, on both sides of the river, yesterday's conservative bunches confirmed everyone's worst fears. a keen sense of smell already detected that if the air. >> the conservatives are creating an uncertainty about job security of thousands of families in the greater national council region. the conservatives are in the habit of laying off public serve n'ts who are doing their jobs but don't they think that this is -- that this is

beginning to be too much? >> mr. speaker, as we said yesterday, 11,000 jobs each year leads to public service, and my colleague mentioned the fact that there are times when there are jobs that have left the public service. well, it's liberal, mr. speaker. in high numbers, in fact, there were many jobs that were cut under the liberals. it was extraordinary. honorable member. >> we have seen that the conservatives are very keen on fair toing public serven'ts who do not follow their ideology. but this is getting a bit much. on both sides of the ottawa river, tens of thousands of families did not sleep well last night after the budget

confirmed 20,000 jobs would be slashed from public serven'ts. why aren't they threatening -- why are they threatening our cherished public serven'ts. >> mr. speaker, this is really taking things to the extreme. they ignore our budget and we get the highest levels for public health care, seniors, research, along with lowering taxes. now they are trying to frighten public serven'ts. there are about is 1,000 a year of public serven'ts. we have been very clear that we in no way and manner, shape or form are we going to replicate what the -- did, slashing tens of thousands of public serven't jobs. >> the honorable member for --

>> natural for us to work with conservatives. but because every canadian deserves fair access to health care, we tried to work with them to get results. the conservative budget had no money for doctors. they decided political gains were more important than the needs of canadians. can the minister tell us why there were banned more than 5 million canadians without -- >> the honorable minister of health. >> thank you mr. speaker. the members made -- the vote against the budget will mean that there will be no funding for newer logical health research. it will mean the additional funding for doctors and nurses will be not funded and it will also be a vote against the department and i guess, mr. speaker, that is a vote against canadians. thank you. >> the honorable member.

>> mr. speaker, in yesterday's budget, this government had the opportunity to towards needs of families, but they chose not tot . nothing for education. nothing to support friendship centers. nothing to provide clean water and nothing to provide -- their answers are projects that only reduce the government's own liability, like replacing fuel tanks. why did the minister controversy -- choose to ignore the calls? >> the honorable minister of indian affairs and northern government. >> mr. speaker, this will help improve the lives of canadians. this as we more than delivered on education, water, housing. economic development and human rights.

for long periods while the -- vote on all important investments. we're the party that delivers for -- [inaudible] >> member for -- order. >> mr. speaker, phillippe know canadians worked hard to build this country. we know nannies have substandard working conditions and have their passports confiscated so they couldn't flee. one of the nannies was forced into a gag order, preenting her from talking to media and law enforcement. it's all about -- a member. mr. speaker, can the secretary tell what the government's position is on immigration abuse. >> mr. speaker, let me declare,

would we enjoy the same rights as canadian workers. if they are being abused. they should report that abuse to the relevant agency. we ensure they know their rights. immigrant women have the right to speak out. the real question is would the liberal leader not take a stabbed on this issue and state treatment like this is wrong and unacceptable? >> the honorable member of. >> last week i had the opportunity to visit the diamond aircraft facilities in london. the company is still waiting for a decision on a $35 million loan from this government. the ontario government came through with its $35 million a year ago. meanwhile, hinging on this decision is 500 layoffs and 200

possible. why did this minister loaf around for a year, leaving others facing layoffs? >> -- the fact is this government has already give then particular company $20 million through our aerospace program, mr. speaker. they've asked for an additional on top of the $20 million. $35 million more. it's our responsibility as keepers of the taxpayer interests to make sure we do our diligence on a company like, this and that work is ongoing, mr. speaker. >> the honorable member for quebec. >> mr. speaker, i'm sorry that the conservative government is trying to disqualify the davy shift yard from more proposals. it's unanimously -- the conservatives had to stop.

sabotaging the discovery. why did the government remandatory a request for the proposal mid stream so as to give less time to the structure. the honorable minister of public works. >> mr. speaker, the policy requirement was not to change at any time in the process. for companies to be solve isn't par for the course for any government contracting. and let me say when this company was in a difficulty financial situation the government supported a 2 $270 million loan to help this company along. the truth is they are prequalified to bid in this. we hope they will be able to support it, if they are solven't. >> will draw from a conclusion our question. we will conclude this afternoon. >> former u.s. comp troller

david walker. then -- >> this would lead to new elections to be held in may. here's what we're covering on the c-span networks today. on c-span 2, hosted by the atlantic and american journal magazines begins at 8:45 a.m. eastern time. then the brookings institution looks at a company country trying to form a democracy. on c-span three the american's constitution society gives a