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excluding the armed services. host: it is a lesson that private employers have had for the last several years. guest: if this happens, i think we will come out of it with a better, more refreshed perspective on what may or may not need to continue in a functioning government. if you look at the budget proposals for 2012, we are setting up a pretty interesting debate. host: ted o'keefe from the "washington post," covering the workers who staff the government. we will take you now to the house of representatives. on the senate side, harry reid will be on the floor making an updated state making a budget negotiation. and at a house you see the doors of our to open there. today, they are taking up a cr,
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which wilson -- fund the government through april 15 and it also funds the pentagon through the 15th. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] thanks for being with us on this thursday morning. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker: the house will be in order. the prayer will be offered by our chaplain, father coughlin. chaplain coughlin: creator of the earth and skies, to whom all truth and power belong, grant us your truth to make us wise. grant us your power to make us strong. we have not known you to the skies, our monuments of folly soar and all our miseries have made us truth ourselves the more.
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we have not loved you far and wide and wreckage of our hatred spreads. and those recoil under unrepentant heads. we long to end this worldwide strife. how shall we follow in your way? speak to mankind, your words of life until our darkness turns to day. amen. the speaker: the chair has examined the journal of the last day's proceedings and announces to the house his approval thereof. pursuant to clause 1 of rule 1 the journal stands approved. for what purpose does the gentlelady from texas rise? ms. johnson: mr. speaker, pursuant to clause 1 of rule 1, i request a vote on agreeing to the speaker's approval of the journal. the speaker: the question is on agreeing to the speaker's approval of the journal. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no.
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ms. johnson: i request the yeas and nays. the speaker: those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the journal stands approved. the yeas and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will please rise. a sufficient number having arisen, the yeas and nays are ordered. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, further proceedings on this question are postponed. the pledge of allegiance today will be led by the gentleman from georgia, mr. barrow. mr. barrow: i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the speaker: the chair will entertain up to five one-minute requests on each side. for what purpose does the gentleman from ohio rise? >> mr. speaker, request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered.
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>> mr. speaker, we have a national debt of more than $14.2 trillion and our unfunded obligations dwarf even that number. even american taxpayer share of the national debt is $128,000 and rising. our nation is broke. the federal government has maxed out its credit card. now, this house is listening to the american people and we put forth multiple plans to try to get our fiscal house in order but harry reid and president obama are still not listening. mr. johnson: the clock is ticking and because of their inaction we are hours away from a potential government shutdown. now, they'll deny this fiscal crisis is being caused by their failed policies, but americans are too smart to fall for that. americans want the tools to grow the economy instead of growing government. so when making spending decisions we should ask two simple questions in this house -- how much does it cost? who's going to pay for it? if we can't afford it and the american taxpayer is going to foot the bill, gentlemen,
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ladies, let's vote no. i yield back, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? >> i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. miller: mr. speaker, one year ago this house overwhelmingly passed bipartisan legislation that would have prevented children from being abused in classrooms, but unfortunately it never became law. in the years since then, children have suffered and been abused in school and parents have felt completely helpless. the 2009 government accountability office told our committee of the shocking wave of abuse by untrained school staff that were misusing emergency interventions. most of these victims were children with disabilities. some were 3 and 4 years old. in some cases children died. restraints seclusion should be used only as a last resort by trained professionals but the g.a.o. found that was not the case. this is an unacceptable and yet it is a reality for too many children across the country.
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a media report out yesterday highlights these horrific abuses continued through this past year. in chicago a 4-year-old boy's wrists were taped together because he refused to take a nap and didn't wash his hands. in if aetteville, north carolina, a teacher held him down. this abuse of children and the death of children has got to stotch. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from south carolina rise? mr. wilson: mr. speaker, i ask permission to address the house and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from south carolina is recognized for one minute. mr. wilson: mr. speaker, democrats in congress are trying to set up roadblocks to have a budget for this year. they refuse to pass a budget, threatening jobs. rather than mortgaging the future like the previous congress, house republicans have sent a commonsense budget to the senate 47 days ago.
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this plan limits spending in order to promote job growth. now we have liberals in the senate refusing to pass the budget. this is failed leadership. democrats in washington are out of touch with everyday americans who would rather play the blame game than offer real solutions. the liberal house majority last year failed to pass a budget. the new conservative house passed a budget but the liberal senate majority has failed to pass the budget. lib ralts are clearly risking government -- liberals are clearly risking government shutdown. in conclusion, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from massachusetts rise? mr. mcgovern: i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. mcgovern: of every 10 people going hungry, six are women. they have the least access to schools, lands and markets. but because every mother will go to bed hungry before her child does, h.r. 1 cuts
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life-saving food aid, humanitarian programs almost in half. these programs make up less than 1% of the federal budget. slashing them does nothing to help the budget but will be devastating to women and children. when food prices are at all-time highs and more people are hungry than ever before this is unconscionable. people are fasting in opposition to these budget cuts. hunger should not be a partisan issue. i urge my colleagues to reject these draconian cuts, support programs to protect the hungry and the most vulnerable here at home and around the world. learn more at hungerfast.org. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois rise? >> i ask permission to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the goldstone report following the 2008 and 2009 following
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hamas and the state of israel. well over 4,000 rocket attacks intended to terrorize communities in southern israel. this alleged a sickening conclusion that israel deliberately targeted civilians, an accusation grossly offensive to me as an american and to the only nation in the middle east whose commitment to humanitarian values we recognize and value as mirroring our own. the goldstone report is held high. now richard goldstone has publicly distanced himself from this deeply flawed conclusions of his own report. so, mr. speaker, i ask, where does a nation go to get its reputation back? i hope and urge we can begin to talk to the administration to inform the u.n. and the members of the goldstone commission to reconsider its own report, to block future u.n. actions based on its falsehooded and to expeditiously introduce a measure properly exonerating
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israel from this damaging libel. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise? mr. barrow: to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for one minute. mr. barrow: mr. speaker, i rise today to express my deep sadness over the passing of four people who perished in a test flight crash in roswell, new mexico, this past saturday. gulf stream is headquartered in my congressional sdrirkt and i know firsthand the hard work, discipline and dedication that gulf stream employees put into their work. last week four of those employees lost their lives in the line of duty. our thoughts and prayers are with the family, friends and colleagues of kent crenshaw, rigusa, david mccollum and rece ollenburg. they will be missed by their families, colleagues and communities and we have our deepest respect and appreciation. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the
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gentleman from michigan rise? >> i rise to address the house and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from michigan is recognized for one minute. mr. mccotter: thank you, mr. speaker. as we're all very well aware, we are on the verge of a potential government shutdown over the critical issue of spending. and for those who are confused by this that they hear from this chamber as to where the parties stand in relation to spending your money and the future deficits and debt of this country, let me put it as clearly as i can. as the democrats support shutting down the government for more spending, the republicans support keeping open the government with less spending. i trust your wisdom to determine which you prefer and which you deem in the interest of this country. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time.
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for what purpose does the gentlelady from texas rise? ms. brown: request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentlelady from texas is recognized for one minute. ms. johnson: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i stand here this morning very troubled because the republican budget will end medicare and eliminate the guaranteed coverage. this is un-american. it slashes medicaid for seniors in nursing homes, health care for children and americans with disabilities. this is un-american. it increases the cost of college education for close to 10 million middle-class students and their families. it gives away billions in subsidies to tax breaks to big oil. and tax cuts for the wealthy that would allow $1 trillion to the deficit -- that will add $1 trillion to the deficit. it gives tax breaks to corporations that sends jobs overseas.
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yes, we must cut but we must cut with common sense. we must not gut the future of america. it has to be sensible. thank you, mr. speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back her time. for what purpose does the gentleman from west virginia rise? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from west virginia is recognized for one minute. mr. mckinley: today, mr. speaker, i'm introducing legislation that will prohibit the e.p.a. from regulating fly ash as a hazardous material. fly ash is an unavoidable byproduct of burning coal to produce electricity. fly ash has been repeatedly tested and approved by the e.p.a. for america's customers. recycling fly ash helps keep elect trick generation costs down which in turns keeps electricity affordable for all our consumers. but if the e.p.a. persists with its plans to designate fly ash as a hazardous material, the
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expensive handling of the material will increase and so will our energy costs. why would this administration want to increase the cost of electricity on our senior citizens, hospitals, schools and american families? president obama's relentless war on coal has been an unmitigated job killer and will have a ripple effect on all industries, especially those that recycle fly ash. i am proud to introduce this legislation which has bipartisan support among my colleagues as well as over 200 special groups. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee rise? >> to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from tennessee is recognized for one minute. . mr. cohen: a shut down of government, why did it occur? it's going to occur because we don't have a budget. why don't we have a budget? we have a great deficit. why do we have that great deficit? bus the bush tax cuts got rid of
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the clinton excess we had during clinton's days. we had extra money. we balanced the budget. the bush years, a deficit for the tax cuts which have been extended with the majority of republicans and some democrats, and two wars overseas in iraq and afghanistan that were off budget and they cost us much. in the future, we are going to see a political armageddon here about this continuing resolution and the budget of this country. and the issue's going to be whether we deal with the superrich or guarantee america's past and care for everybody to have opportunity and a chance. whether we care about the oil companies that make record profits and give the continued deductions, or whether we care about people that need education and health care. medicare is at risk. social security will be at risk. and there's no jobs plan been forward by this congress. that's just the way it is. i yield back the remainder of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentlelady from north carolina rise? ms. foxx: mr. speaker, by direction of the committee on rules i call up house resolution
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206 and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the resolution. the clerk: house calendar number 27, house resolution 206. resolved, that upon adoption of this resolution it shall be in order to consider in the house the bill h.r. 1363, making appropriations for the department of defense for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2011, and for other purposes. all points of order against consideration of the bill are waived. the bill shall be considered as read. all points of order against provisions in the bill are waived. the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill to final passage without intervening motion except one, one hour of debate equally divided an controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on appropriations and two, one motion to recommit. section 2, requirement of clause 6-a of rule 13 for a 2/3 vote to consider a report from the committee on rules on the same day it is presented to the house is waived with respect to any
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resolution reported before april 11, 2011, providing for consideration or disposition of a measure making or continuing appropriations for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2011. the speaker pro tempore: so ordered. the gentlewoman from north carolina is recognized for one hour. ms. foxx: mr. speaker, for the purpose of debate only, i yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. mcgovern, pending which i yield myself such time as i may consume. during consideration of this resolution all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only. mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. foxx: house resolution 206 provides for a closed rule providing for consideration of h.r. 1363 which is a bill providing one week of continuing appropriations, a full year of
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funding for the department of defense, and cuts $12 billion in wasteful federal spending. mr. speaker, it's unfortunate that we are at this juncture. nearly seven months into fiscal year 2011. considering the bill that this house will soon consider, we are seeing a stunning lack of leadership on behalf of washington democrats, including senate majority leader reid and president obama who have refused to do the work that americans sent them here to do. they have exhibited willful disregard for our troops and their families who are uncertain about their paychecks with a government shut down looming. the bill we will debate and pass funds the department of defense for the remainder of the year while cutting another $12 billion in wasteful washington spending. lest we forget, the reason this problem exists at all is because the liberal democrat elites were so incapable of governing in the
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last congress that they couldn't even pass a budget for the first time since modern congressional budgets were first created over 30 years ago. they didn't do that because of their lack of leadership then and their apparent realization that the american people had tired of big spending, big government policies streaming out of washington which is why the republicans now control the house of representatives. today with real leadership in the house we have real solutions to these real problems. house republicans have passed h.r. 1 which is a continuing resolution that takes us to the end of the fiscal year. the democrat response in another display of their lack of leadership, senator reid sits on his hands while senator schumer tinkers in his game of manipulating the liberal political message on a phone call with reporters. house republicans then took the lead in crafting two short-term continuing resolutions, h.j.res. 44, and j. h.res. 48 providing
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for an additional five weeks of funding authority while cugget $10 billion in wasteful federal -- cutting $10 billion in wasteful federal spending along the way. realizing the stubborn liberal elites in the senate and white house are using the threat of the government shut down to continue their failed wasteful spending policies, house republicans last week passed h.r. 1255, the government shut down prevention act, which provided for enactment of h.r. 1 in the event that the liberal malaise continues to stymie progress on fiscal 2011 appropriations. after all of these gestures of good faith made by house republicans, the time has now come for the hapless liberal democrat elites in the senate and the white house to make a decision. it's time to decide between acting responsibly, abandoning favored political alliances, and continuing their failed big government policies as a solution to all earthly problems. these points aside, there's one prove of thought which everyone
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can agree, the new republican house leadership has changed the discussion in washington, d.c., and across the country. whereas the previous discussion in washington revolved solely around how much more money we should spend, today the discussion is how much more money we should cut. americans can now rest easy knowing that their message was received by responsible adults here in the house and we will work to reflect their support for a leaner federal government focused on finding solutions to problems rather than political gamesmanship and perpetual misguided adventures in social engineering. speaker boehner told the president the house will not be put in a box and forced to choose between two options that are bad for the country. like accepting a bad deal that fails to make real spending cuts, or accepting a government shut down due to senate inaction and that this is why house republicans in lieu of an agreement in which the white house and senate agreed to real
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spending cuts are offering the third option, another good faith gesture that funds our troops through the end of the fiscal year while cutting an additional $12 billion in wasteful government spending and keeps the government running for another week. real leadership is long overdue in this congress, mr. speaker, and it's refreshing to see the new house republican majority step in and fill the void left by such a devastating lack of leadership that's resulted from liberal democrat domination of this city for far too long. let's start by voting for this rule and the underlying bill. with that i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from north carolina reserves the balance of her time. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the the gentlewoman from north carolina, my friend, dr. foxx, for yielding me the customary 30 minutes. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i rise in strong opposition to this closed rule and to the misguided underlying
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legislation. mr. speaker, enough is enough. enough political posturing, enough governing by press conference, enough finger pointing press releases, facebook updates and tweets, democrats have already agreed reluctantly to tens of billions of dollars in cuts, many of these cuts are from programs that are very near and dear to us. we have come more than halfway. and i'm pleased that speaker boehner agreed to attend a negotiating session with president obama and senator reid last night. the truth, mr. speaker, is that it shouldn't be this hard to come up with a budget to finish this year. president obama and senator reid are trying to work with speaker boehner to come up with a bipartisan agreement that moves this country forward. but that's not what we see coming from the republican party in the house. unfortunately, as of right now the republican leadership is continuing with their my way or the highway obstructionism.
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let's be clear about what's really going on here. let's at least be straight with the american people. this impasse is not because of disputes between democrats and republicans, it's because of an intraparty feud between sensible pragmatic republican legislators and angry take no prisoner republican activists. i know many of my friends on the other side of the aisle would like to accept the billions and billions of dollars in cuts that the democrats have offered and declare victory. unfortunately their republican party has been hydrogened -- hijacked by people who relish a shutdown of the federal government. people who refuse to take yes for an answer. they are more interested in making a point than making law. unless and until the republican leadership and this house is willing to stand up to that radical element and stop moving the goal posts, we will not be able to move forward. my friends on the other side of the aisle talk a good game about wanting to come up with a compromise. unfortunately, this bill before us today does nothing to achieve
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that goal. in fact, it is a step backwards. this bill like h.r. 1 before it isn't going anywhere. the senate leadership and white house have already made it very clear that yet another short-term continuing resolution is not acceptable. further, this bill continues the misguided priorities that we have seen from the republican leadership of the house for the last several months. it cuts vital domestic programs that families, communities, and states rely on during these difficult economic times. let me just give you a few examples of the cuts to programs that will be directly -- that will directly affect the people in massachusetts that i'm honored to represent. h.r. 1363 would cut the land and water conservation fund which helps preserve open space by another $71.5 million. it cuts $700 million from the clean water and drinking water revolving funds. i don't know of a community in this country that doesn't have infrastructure needs. and the state revolving fund is one of the few areas where they can get money to help repair
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sewers and deal with storm water and a whole bunch of other issues, but they cut it by $700 million more dollars. most egregiously of all, it cuts $390 million from liheap for the liheap contingency fund. that's fuel assistance for poor people, mostly elderly, who need it as fuel -- as fuel prices continue to rise. there it is, mr. speaker, there is the clear difference in priorities between the two parties. the republicans would rather shut down the government than provide heating assistance to some of the most vulnerable people in this contry. i should also note this bill would provide funding for the department of defense for the rest of the year, but nothing else. every member of this house believes that making sure our troops get their paychecks is a top priority. the men and women who serve this country in uniform deserve our support. but, mr. speaker, so do the seniors of this country. so do the children of this country. so do the poor and the hungry of this country. so do the people who can't
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afford hot shot lobbyists and multimillion dollar ad campaigns. we are supposed to represent them, too. a couple days ago we saw where the republican priorities are. they made them crystal clear in their budget proposal. eliminate medicare as we know it. eviscerate medicaid. cut funding for education, cut funding for medical research, health care, environmental protection, and infrastructure in order to make sure that the wealthiest individuals and companies can keep their special interest tax breaks. all companies continue to get their taxpayer subsidies. why? -- why they need them, don't know. they continue to get them and they are protected. donald trump continues to get his tax cut under their proposal. busm they lack programs for working people. that may fly on wall street but it sure isn't going to fly on main street. so, again, mr. speaker, i say that enough is enough. it is time for serious people to do some serious legislating.
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the bill before us is a million miles away from that. i urge my colleagues to reject this closed rule and reject the underlying legislation. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts reserves the balance of his time. the gentlewoman from north carolina is recognized. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker. my colleague from massachusetts and i are actually, i think, getting fairly fond of each other spending so much time in the rules committee as we do, however, i really have to call into question a couple of comments that he has made. is this bill really a step backwards from funding our troops for the rest of the year? taking away the uncertainty that they have just in case the government votes to shut down or the senate doesn't act as it should and allows the government to shut down? do we really not -- do we really
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need to continue all the appropriations for liheap, the funding for helping people pay their heating bills when we are in a full this year. this is money that goes into the end of september, i hardly think that we are going to have people freezing to death in this country between now and september 30. do we need to be looking after seniors and children? obviously we do. republicans are not heartless people. . but we have to look after them in a responsible way. cutting spending is the way to be responsible to them. and, mr. speaker, i have to remind my colleague again that we're here to fix the problem that they left for us last year. funding the federal government for the rest of this year. yesterday in the rules committee, one of our colleagues said, let's stop talking about the past and talk about the future, when we brought this up.
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well, mr. speaker, republicans would like nothing more than to do that, but we're doing all that we can to avoid a government shutdown and that is what this rule and bill are all about this morning. republicans understand that unless we change course higher taxes, inflation, interest rates and unemployment will cripple our economy and rob our children of the opportunity to pursue the american dream. let's be clear, we don't have deficits because americans are taxed too little. we have deficits because washington spends too much. we've got to stop spending money we don't have. right now we're borrowing 43 cents for every dollar that we spend. i want to talk a little bit about the long-term effect of what we're planning to do in this congress this spring under republican majority. the budget resolution introduced by budget committee chairman, paul ryan, and passed out of the budget committee last evening, will spur job
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creation, stop spending money we don't have and lifts the crushing burden of debt. it's a plan that puts the budget on a path to fiscal stability and our country on a path to prosperity by cutting $6 trillion in federal spending over 10 years and takes government spending below 20% of g.d.p. mr. speaker, historically our government spending has been between 18% and 20% of g.d.p. once we go over there we are endangering our country, and that's where our colleagues across the aisle have been for a long time. the white house predicts that their proposal will reduce the deficit by only $1.1 trillion over the same period of time. according to the nonpartisan congressional budget office, president obama's budget would generate more than $9.5 trillion in additional deficits between fiscal years 2012 and
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2021. i have actually a visual here, mr. speaker, that shows exactly what's going to happen under president obama's budget. in contrast, the republican budget resolution provides us with a path to prosperity by limiting the federal government to its core constitutional roles. keeping america's promises to seniors and unleashing the genius of america's workers, investors and entrepreneurs. the republican budget has a projected real g.d.p. growth of $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years. with this budget resolution, we're taking direct aim at wasteful washington spending as opposed to the obama budget that spends more than $46 trillion over the next decade. since january of 2009, there's been a 24% increase in nondiscretionary spending, a number that jumps to 84% when stimulus funds are included,
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mr. speaker. democrats promised if we paid for their stimulus unemployment would be below 9%. then it soared to 10%. americans know they didn't get what they paid for. the 2009 stimulus law has gotten the most attention with considerable focus on the billions of dollars it wasted on dubious government projects as well as the many promises it broke with respect to job creation and economic growth. the republican budget resolution projects an unemployment rate of 4% by 2015, mr. speaker. if we continue on the wrong path we're on now, americans will not be able to rely on medicare, medicaid and social security in order to plan for retirement if we don't take action. republican want to serve as good stewards as the investment of millions of americans paying into social security. republicans will save $750 billion through medicaid reform
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in the form of block grants to states giving governors much flectibility in their budgets. as it stands, the share of the budget that goes to these entitlement programs is growing rapidly, and demographics, economics and skewed political enincentives are driving social security, medicare and medicaid into bankruptcy. the former clinton o.m.b. director has called medicare's current policy, quote, not sustainable. cutting spending is about ending wasteful spending, making the government leaner, more efficient, showing respect to hardworking taxpayers and making the tough choices today that save our children and grandchildren from even tougher choices tomorrow. for hardworking americans, it's about their life and putting our economy and our nation first. with that, mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the
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gentlewoman from north carolina reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. mcgovern: i have no disagreement with the gentlelady from north carolina in terms of trying to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in government. i think we all -- are all for a leaner government, but we're not for a meaner government and that's what the republican policies is about, a meaner government. there is a story i'll submit for the record that -- g.o.p. medicare plan could lead to rationing. making it more difficult for our senior citizens to get health care by basically obliterating medicare. you can save a few short bucks in the short term but not help them in the long term. i don't know how that's right. i didn't talk about the past in my opening statement.
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the gentlelady did. i want the record clear about the past and how we got in this mess. when bill clinton left office we had -- we eliminated the deficit and we were paying down the debt. we had all-time high job growth. george bush comes to office, his reckless tax cuts that are not paid for, hundreds of billions of dollars added to our debt. a medicare prescription drug bill that was not paid, wasn't paid for. more expensive than the republicans advertised, add that on to our debt. two wars that weren't paid for. you know, when the first george bush went to war against saddam hussein, when iraq invaded kuwait, he went around and got member nations in the area to actually pitch in and help pay for the war so the burden wasn't on the united states. george bush ii comes into office, two wars, we don't pay
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for them. they're all -- there's no tax on anybody. it goes onto our credit card. that's just not right. the men and women in our military are sacrificing. their families are sacrifices. nobody else is doing anything. it gets put on the credit card. that's not right. mr. speaker, i have a disagreement with the gentlelady, not over the issue of whether we need to reduce waste and abows in the government. i have an issue of their way to doing it. they protect tax breaks for big oil companies, tax breaks for donald trump, subsidies for corn ethanol. big waste of money. all that's protected. and the way they balance the budget is not going after that. they go after programs that help poor people, liheap, w.i.c., the women, infants and children program, of all things. pell grants. we all know that in this 21st century we need a well-educated
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work force. and they cut pell grants. they just slash them. that's where they're cutting. cutting programs that help average people, regular people and people who are vulnerable. that's what government should be about is making sure that those people are taken care of and not forgotten. instead, their budget and their priorities are protecting those who have a lot of wealth. you know, who don't need government. and i think this is -- i think what they're doing is misguided. and let me just read one final thing here. this is a story that just appeared in "politico," breaking news -- president obama is calling the house speaker, john boehner, and senate majority leader, harry reid, back to the white house to negotiate on the budget at 1:00 p.m. just before the announcement for the white house, senator reid said on the senate floor that the numbers are basically there but that the only thing holding up an agreement is ideology. he said he was not nearly as optimistic about reaching a deal as he was last night.
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so in other words, mr. speaker, this is no longer about numbers. because -- and i regret that so much has had to be cut in order to satisfy my friends on the other side of the aisle. but now this is about ideology. they have all these writers on this -- on these bills, writers that deal with abortion, national public radio, writers that undercut e.p.a.'s ability to be able to ensure that there are safe drinking water and clean air. they insist on all these ideological writers to be attached to any budget deal before they sign it. it's not about the numbers anymore. it's about a rigid right-wing ideology. so enough is enough, mr. speaker. i urge my republican colleagues to go back to the negotiating table, negotiate in good faith and let's get this -- a deal and move on to next year's business. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts
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reserves his time. the gentlewoman from north carolina is recognized. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. foxx: my colleague, again, from massachusetts knows that every time he brags about what happened when bill clinton left office and we had a surplus that he's going to get an answer to that because he knows full well that republicans were in control of the congress, republicans became in control of the congress in 1995 and they controlled the congress the last six years of bill clinton's presidency and it's republican who created the surplus, not bill clinton. and we have to remind them every time that they're trying to rewrite history. now, let me remind them -- and then they blame george w. bush. it's so convenient to do that. in january of 2007, the month democrats took control of the congress again, the c.b.o.
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projected the federal government would run a surplus of d $800 billion over 10 years, covering the period 2008 to 2017. but they took the congress that january, and guess what, the most recent c.b.o. projection available project the federal government to run a deficit of $7.4 trillion over the same period. mr. mcgovern: will the gentlelady yield? ms. foxx: it's an $8.2 trillion deterioration during democrat control of congress. you can speak on your time, mr. mcgovern. i'll let you do that. i think that my colleague across the aisle talks a lot about creating a nanny state, taking care of people from birth until death. that's not what the american people want. we see that over in europe and it's failed.
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what the federal government does and what schoolchildren should learn if they learn the preamble to the constitution, if they read the declaration of independence, is that we're here to secure the blessings of liberty for the people. putting -- creating a nanny state does not secure the blessings of liberty for the people. and he talks about how we're not now talking about numbers but we're talking about ideology. i am happy to debate ideology with my colleague from massachusetts any day. the american people do not want taxpayer-funded abortions. that's part of what we're talking about. that's part of our ideology. no, we should not be taking money from hardworking americans and using that money to fund the killing of unborn babies. that is our ideology, and i,
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again, the majority of the american people agree with us and we're going to stand on that ideology every day. the american people have, mr. speaker, the right to a fact-based conversation on the budget. we demand an end to budget gimmicks and accounting tricks used every year to make budgets look responsible when in fact they add to the debt and that's part of our problem with what president obama is recommending. he wants us to take mythical numbers that he projects and instead of real numbers that we've been using. passing a short-term measure is a step in the right direction to cut spending while keeping the government open, but it's far from being enough. excessive government spending has economic consequences for all americans. higher cost of living, higher interest rates, higher taxes. but, mr. speaker, we didn't get into this overnight and we won't get out of it overnight. investors in small businesses
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need confidence that congress use commonsense american principles to cut spending and ensure a secure economic future. the republican budget resolution can create one million private sector jobs over the next year. we're not going to create these high-paid government jobs that our colleagues have created. america's solution for job creation won't come by raising taxes to pay for even more wasteful washington bureaucracy. democrats tried that approach with the stimulus and it failed. republicans on the other hand estimate that with the path to prosperity budget resolution introduced this week and passed out of the budget committee, wages will go up by $1.1 trillion over the next 10 years yielding an average increase in income of $1,000 per year for each american family. mr. speaker, we need to do in this house what the american people expect us to do.
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be reasonable stewards, responsible stewards of their money and adhere to the ideology which has made this the greatest country in the world. with that i reserve the balance of my time. . the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern:00 i yield myself such time as i may consume. just two points on the issue of aportion, with the law of the land, no federal funds could be used to finance abortion. this is introducing abortion into this budget debate is divisive and doesn't belong there. it's all about ideology. i get it. don't say it's about numbers anymore. it's about this right-wing ideology, going after national public radio. there's a time and place to do that. this is not it. the other thing i say, i listen to my colleague from north carolina, i always -- the question i was going to ask, if republicans are responsible for deficit reduction under bill
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clinton, then who is responsible for the increase in deficit when they were in charge of the presidency, the house, and senate? i mean when they had all three branches of government. at some point you got to take some responsibility and at some point you have to live up to the fact that some of the policies that my colleagues pursued when they were in charge here drove this economy into a ditch and added significantly to our deficit. at this time, mr. speaker, i yield four minutes to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. pallone. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey is recognized for four minutes. mr. pallone: thank you, mr. speaker. i listened to what the gentlewoman from on the other side said and i was really amazed because she was harking back to when we had a democratic president, bill clinton, and a republican congress. and how we worked together to accomplish certain goals. well, that's exactly what's missing now. if you listen to what my colleague from massachusetts said, he said, once again, the president is calling the speaker , the republican speaker and the
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majority, democrat majority leader in the senate back to the white house to try to work something out. that's what's happening here. but it's the house republicans and their leadership that refuse any kind of negotiation. they keep saying, they are going to work it out, but they don't. they keep insisting on this draconian h.r. 1, this continuing resolution, that really hurts america, kills jobs -- i will not yield at this time. and kills jobs. i ask the gentlewoman, yes, let's go back to those times. let's have the republicans here in the house work together with the president and with senator reid on the other side. you said before that this c.r. that's up now would prevent a government shut down. just the opposite is true. it's a step backward. it's going to lead directly towards the republican shut down because the republican leadership knows this bill will not pass the senate. it doesn't have any cuts in defense. it actually says we'll keep the level of funding for defense until the end of the year. why aren't defense cuts on the
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table? it continues with this ideological battle. there's actually abortion language in this c.r. is my understanding. the gentlewoman actually said, that's an issue here that we need to resolve that we should deal with. no, that's not the case because if you continue on this path, no defense cuts, bring up abortion, this bill will certainly not pass the senate, the president will not sign it, and so we are just simply wasting our time. what's happening here is that the republicans are ignoring the fact there are democrats in the majority of the senate and there's a democratic president. you can't have it my way or the highway. and that's what we have been hearing for the last three months. my way or the highway. i just want to mention another thing, i was glad that the gentlewoman brought up the budget which is to follow because we know that this bad c.r., or spending bill that we are dealing with now, is the precursor to even worse budget bill that the republicans have proposed.
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and i want to tell you, you talk about a previous error, the problem with the republican budget, there are so many, but the biggest problem is it's going to put an end to medicare. i was here when speaker gingrich became speaker and he said he wanted medicare to wither on the vine. and that is what the republican budget will do. it will end medicare as we know it because there will be no guarantee. seniors will go back to the old days when they had to try to find their own private health insurance and maybe the government will give them some help with it, but for the most part, they won't be able to find health insurance. so there won't be medicare, they won't be able to get health insurance, what are they going to do? they are going to be out on the street, end up in the emergency room again which was -- what happened with the elderly before we passed medicare. and the gentlewoman went on to say she's going to reform medicaid. well, she's reforming medicaid by basically giving a block grant to the states. what does that mean? the states want to have enough
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money to pay for seniors' nursing home care. so nursing homes will close or they won't provide quality services. we'll see seniors getting bed sores again if they can even find a nursing home. essentially we are going to end medicaid. 65% of medicaid goes towards seniors and the disabled. you look at this republican budget, this is just a precursor to what we are going to see next week, it will end medicare as we know it by eliminating its guarantee coverage, it slashes medicaid for seniors in nursing homes, health care for children, and americans with disabilities. it increases the cost of a college education for close to 10 million middle class students. it gives away billions in subsidies and tax breaks to big oil. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from massachusetts reserves. the gentlewoman from north carolina is recognized. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker. i now yield such time as he may consume to the distinguished gentleman from california, mr. dreier, the chair of the rules committee. the speaker pro tempore: the
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gentleman from california is recognized for as much time as he wishes to consume. mr. dreier: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. dreier: mr. speaker, i thank my friend from grandfather community north carolina for her superb management of this rule and we are here with a couple of very important priorities. number one, we want to ensure that the government doesn't shut down. and that's why we have come forward with this continuing resolution that will provide funding to keep the government opened for a number -- another week. and first and foremost, to ensure that our men and women in uniform have what they need. and that their families are not going to be victimized by what has taken place over the past several months. mr. speaker, as i listened to my friend from new jersey talk about this, i don't like to engage in finger pointing. i really don't, but i think it's very key -- the reason i don't like to engage in finger
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pointing is my friend from worcester laughs at that is, the moment you point your finger at someone i was always taught there are three pointing back at you. i think it's important for us not to point fingers, but i think it's instructive for us to look at what it is that got us here. i suspect my friend from grandfather community probably explained the fact that for the first time in our nation's history since the budget act has existed, we went through a congress without a budget having been passed. that's what happened last year. and for the first time ever we had no appropriations bills passed. now, i'm not pointing fingers, but i will say that there was not a republican in the white house, there was not a democratic senate, and there certainly was not a democratic united states house of representatives. so this was dumped on to the laps of the new majority here in the house of representatives which, as we all know, if we look at the challenges ahead of us, we still have a democrat in the white house, we still have a democratic control of the united
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states senate. so of the three levers of power legislatively, we have control of only 1/3 of those. and in light of that, we are trying to do the best that we can under somewhat challenging circumstances. last november 2 the american people sent a very strong and powerful message to washington, d.c. my party happened to see the largest gain in nearly 3/4 of a century, 1938 is the last time we saw the kind of change in favor of the republican party that we did last november 2. and so in light of that, there is a powerful message and i'm happy to say that that message has been heard by both democrats and republicans. why? because with the 82% increase in nondefense discretionary spending that we saw under speaker pelosi, the american people said, we need to bring an end to that nonsense. guess what?
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we have democrats and republicans alike talking about the need for spending. since we passed h.r. 1, we have had $2 billion in spending cuts every single week, but it is a drop in the bucket. it is a drop in the bucket. over the last two days i have had the chance to meet with a very bright, dynamic, new member of the british parliament, a man called matthew hancock, i just had a chance to meet with the facebook girl who was the -- one of the leaders of the tremendous, tremendous change and revolution that has taken place in egypt. i'm going to be meeting in just a few minutes with leaders from mongolia. mr. speaker, i have to say the world is looking at us as we deal with this terrible situation today and it's critical for us to step up to the plate and provide strong leadership. now, what has happened is we have, as my friend from new
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jersey underscored, come forward with a budget. it was just unveiled this week. mr. ryan, the chairman of the budget committee, is going to be bringing it to the rules committee and we will consider it next week. and it is absolutely horrifying to hear the carkizations -- characterizations that have been provided. mr. speaker, obviously encouraged by fear tactics, my constituents in california have been saying, please, please, please don't support the republican budget which will abolish medicare. that message overand over -- over and over again has been coming, don't support the republican budget which will abolish medicare. the thing that's so disturbing is there are senior citizens, elderly americans, who are out there and they are very emotionally distraught over the fact that people are telling them from the other side of the
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aisle, very close to the remarks that my friend from new jersey just offered, that we are going to abolish medicare. mr. speaker, i think it's very important for the american people to understand that we are seeking to save medicare, saving medicare is what this is all about. we all know if you look at the history of medicare, it was established in 1965, in 1970, mr. speaker, 78 the cost of medicare -- the cost ever medicare was $7 billion. in 1970 it was $7 billion. last year, four decades later, last year, 2010, the cost of medicare was $528 billion. mr. speaker, in light of that there is realization as we have seen medicare expand to address the needs of the disabled and so many other areas, there needs to be reform so that future
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generations will be able, since they are compelled to pay their fica tax, to receive the benefits that they deserve from medicare. mr. speaker, the idea of frightening senior citizens today by leading them to believe that our budget is going to abolish medicare is outrageous and i believe that the american people are smart enough, smart enough to understand that these fear tactics can't stand. we have a responsibility, i believe now, an obligation to counter the lies being put out there claiming that we are trying to abolish medicare. mr. speaker, the other thing that's important for us to note is that the american people are hurting. all the way across the board. we have an unemployment rate, which we are all encouraged by the fact that it's dropped by a full percentage point down to 8.8%, but it is still unacceptably high. and that's why we need to focus
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on job creation and economic growth. mr. speaker, if we had 2% more g.d.p. growth in this country, we would be in a position where we would in fact not be having to anguish over the kind ever spending we see right now -- kind of spending we see right now. it's important for us to recognize that the role of government has become way too big and needs to be reduced. not only because of spending but because of the encroachment on individual liberty that exists. we need to realize that government does have things that it needs to do and we need to generate an increase in that flow of revenues. $1.6 trillion national debt which is -- deficit which is in the president's budget coupled with a $14 trillion in accumulated debt is unacceptable. that's why our goal is to focus on job creation, economic growth, our colleague, dave camp of the ways and means committee, is focusing on reducing that rate on job creators in this country, the highest of any nation on the face of the earth
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now that japan has reduced their rate, and that top rate on individuals. doing that, cuppled with reducing the regulatory reform -- coupled with reducing the regulatory restraints that's imposed will reduce the needs of the poor. my friend from worcester last night in the rules commeel is talking about the fact that no one is focused on the plight of the poor in this country. mr. speaker, that is our priority to make sure that we have opportunity so that people who are truly in need have their needs met, but also to ensure that we have opportunity, creating jobs for individuals is what we need to do. so, mr. speaker, we are committed to keeping the government opened, supporting our troops, and bringing about with this continuing resolution a $12 billion reduction in spending. . it's something if we can pass it here the senate should pass it. people are saying the senate ain't going to pass it.
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the fact of the matter is the senate should pass it but we hope it's not necessary. we hope that speaker boehner, leader reid and president obama are able to come up with an agreement that will ensure that we don't go through what would be a very difficult thing, that would be shutting down the government. so i urge my colleagues to support the rule and i thank my friend for yielding. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back his time. and the gentlewoman from north carolina reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: yeah. i yield myself such time as i may consume, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i want to thank the gentleman from california, the chairman of the rules committee, for giving us his itinerary for the day. i'm glad he's meeting with the leaders of mongolia because this is a budget that the people of mongolia would love because it's a tough budget on the people of the united states of america. he talks about their commitment to helping the poor in this country. i don't know how you do that when you cut w.i.c., when you go after pell grants, when you go after liheap, programs that -- mr. dreier: will the gentleman yield? mr. mcgovern: i yield. mr. dreier: i thank my friend
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for yielding. i mentioned the nondiscretionary spending. if we take a look at the increases in w.i.c., liheap, the notion of slightly paring that back will in no way jeopardize the needs to be addressed. i thank my friend for yielding, mr. speaker. mr. mcgovern: reclaiming my time. i would just remind my friend. right now there are over 30,000 people in this country fasting in protest of the cuts that adversely impact the poor. our former colleague, tony hall from ohio, jim wallace, david beckman are highlighting the fact that the cuts in this budget will be devastating to the most vulnerable people in this country. what i said in the rules committee last night, sometimes we forget -- understand that there are real people behind these cuts and people are going to be hurt. and unfortunately the people who are sacrificing are the people who can not sacrifice. you're not asking donald trump
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to sacrifice. you are not asking big oil companies to sacrifice or these big agra businesses to cut corn ethanol. it focuses on poor people. i don't know when in the minds of my republicans that average working people and people vulnerable became the bad guys. it was reckless wall street behavior that created this financial crisis and they get everything and everyday people get nothing he except a bill. it's wrong. at this point, mr. speaker, i yield four minutes to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. andrews. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey is recognized for four minutes. andrews andrews i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend -- mr. andrews: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. andrews: as we meet this morning the top priority of the american people is the jobs crisis in our country. there are too many people out of work and too many people worried that they're next. last week the welcomed news came that last month the
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economy had created about a quarter of a million new private sector jobs. that's a good start but it's not nearly enough. shutting the government down just when the economy's starting it back on its feet would be the worst possible mistake. we're on the verge of that. it's important that people understand that the president has gone three quarters of the way toward the majority party to settle this matter. didn't meet halfway. he's gone three quarters of the way, but they won't go the full way because there's a fight here about values. this is a fight about what you value. ladies and gentlemen of the house, we value medicare. we believe that after someone's worked their entire life and paid taxes into that medicare fund that they should not have to worry, that a trip to the
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radiologist will be followed by a trip to the bankruptcy court. this is what medicare accomplished for our moms and our dads and our grandparents. it said that after a lifetime of hard work, if you have medical worries they'll just be medical worries, not financial worries because medicare will pay the bill. the gentleman from california talked about how they're not destroying medicare, they're saving it. let's talk about what they're really doing. here's what happens. today if a senior goes to the radiologist of her choice, medicare pays most of the bill and she pays a little bit of it. she decides what doctor to pick. she and the doctor decides what happens next and no private insurance company gets in the way. medicare pays the bill. what they are proposing is to end that system.
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now what will happen under their plan is that the taxes that we pay into the medicare fund will all be paid to health insurance companies. so we will trust the good hands that so gently guide our health care in the health care industry, we'll give them the money, all of it and trust them to do the right thing with the health of america's senior citizens. that is the wrong thing to do with the health of america's senior citizens. there is a fight here about values. it's a fight that shouldn't take place. we should settle the budget fight. the president's gone three quarters of the way to the republican proposal. settle it today on that basis. but by all means, we will never yield, we will never concede, we will never concede the point that medicare should be
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replaced by private insurance companies. the congressional budget office has said in analyzing chairman ryan's proposal that the out-of-pocket health care costs for most retirees in america will go up. this isn't spending reform. this is having someone else pick up the tab. the hospitals aren't going to charge less. the doctors aren't going to charge less. the seniors are going to pay more to get that coverage and he or she is going to have to go ask permission from an insurance company as to what radiologist they can see. then, the radiologist will have to ask permission for what test he or she can order. medicare's not perfect, but it works. we should preserve it and defeat the underlying bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from massachusetts reserves. the gentlewoman from north carolina is recognized. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker.
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i now yield one minute to speaker boehner. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from ohio, the speaker of the house, is recognized. the speaker: i want to thank the gentlelady for yielding. the house is preparing to pass a responsible troop funding bill that would fund the department of defense through september. it would also cut spending by an additional $12 billion and keep the government running for an additional week. there's no policy reason for the senate to oppose this responsible troop funding bill that keeps the government running. it reflect a bicameral, bipartisan agreement that was reached in december regarding the troop funding bill. and no senator has objected to the policy in this bill. i think it's past time that we get this responsible troop funding bill enacted, especially when the u.s. has become engaged in a third war. to support job creation in
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america, we're working to make real spending cuts. we're also working on commonsense policy restrictions when it comes to how taxpayer dollars are spent. talks to resolve last year's budget are progressing, but there is no agreement yet. no agreement on numbers and no agreement on the underlying policies that were passed by this chamber. now, i think we all know that no one wants a shutdown, and there's absolutely no policy reason for the senate not to follow the house in taking these responsible steps to support our troops and to keep our government open. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentlewoman from north carolina reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i thank you, mr. speaker, and i appreciate the words of the speaker of the house, but i would remind my colleagues that when we talk about national security it needs to include as well the
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health and well-being of our senior citizens here in the united states. it needs to include the health and well-being of our children in the united states. it needs to include infrastructure, all those things are part of our national security. so we all support funding our troops, but we don't support a reckless policies that are aimed at undercutting programs like medicare and putting our senior citizens at a disadvantaged where they'll pay more and get less. i mean, this is an ideological battle that we are unfortunately engaged in where my republican friends believe that medicare should be ended as we know it. medicare as we know it, they want to end. it is clear, and i -- if anyone doubts that, i will tell my colleagues, read the bill, read the step that is coming out of the budget committee. read the bill. anybody that doubts that republicans are targeting medicare, look at what the budget committee is doing. it will be there in black and white when it's published.
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it will be there and it states unequivocally that medicare as we know it will be ended. senior citizens, according to the c.b.o., will pay more and get less. that is not what i think the american people want. i would just remind my colleagues that as a new poll that came out, 66% of seniors reject the plans to end medicare as we know it. so, you know, i think if you interpret the results of the last election to go after medicare and seniors' health care i think you misread the results of the last election. the last election was about jobs. we all need to come together and protect jobs and help creation of more jobs in this country. you want to end the deficit, put people back to work. here we are in april and yet you have yet to bring one single bill to this floor that helps create jobs and helps protect jobs. we need to -- my friends on the other side of the aisle need to kind of re-evaluate their
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priorities here. let's get back to what the american people want, a strong economy and good jobs. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts reserves. the gentlewoman from north carolina is recognized. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker. i'd like to ask the gentleman from massachusetts if he is ready to close. mr. mcgovern: i am not. we have a couple more speakers. ms. foxx: then i'll reserve, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from north carolina reserves. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, at this time i'd like to yield two minutes to the ranking member of the armed services committee -- appropriations committee, mr. dicks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. dicks: mr. speaker, how much time is left? the speaker pro tempore: 6 1/2 minutes. the gentleman from massachusetts has 6 1/2 minutes. mr. mcgovern: i yield him two minutes. mr. dicks: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. dicks: yesterday we met in
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the rules committee to discuss this potential c.r., and the point that i wanted to make was i felt that a clean c.r. -- i wish the gentleman from california were here -- but a clean c.r. would be more appropriate at this time, especially if we get an agreement because that way the president can sign the clean c.r. which would keep funding for the troops. i want to point that out, as the ranking member on defense appropriations. but this c.r. is troubled in that i believe that the president will veto it. i also believe it won't be passed in the senate. so why are we doing this? why are we wasting time here when we should have -- be focused on getting a clean c.r. through which the president said he would sign that would allow a little more time for
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negotiations on this agreement? now, we have got to get an agreement. the idea of shutting down the federal government in the middle of this economic downturn is just the worst possible idea. goldman sachs says you'll lose .2% of economic growth. this will hurt -- this will be -- will put -- lay people off. whether they'll get reimbursed or not is a major question for those who are not considered to be vital, and i think all workers are vital, but who are not in an essential kind of job. now, we talked yesterday to the f.a.a. they will keep operating. we have troops in the field. if we did a clean c.r. they would be paid, as i mentioned before. i think this is a waste of time. every ounce of effort to be in reaching this agreement and, you know, the administration
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has bent over backwards. the senate has bept over backwards. one more minute? mr. mcgovern: 30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 30 seconds. mr. dicks: to try to reach an agreement on this and the leadership on the republican side keeps changing the goal post. first it was $33 billion, now it's $40 billion, and they just can't take yes for an answer. the most important thing is this will hurt the economy. and also it shows kind of a mean-spiritedness here when you're going after medicare and the budget resolution and medicaid and in this deal you're going after women and infant care, this is not what we should be doing. we should be helping the poor people, not taking their safety net away. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from north carolina is recognized.
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ms. foxx: we continue to reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i yield one and a half minutes to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. an truse. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for a minute and a half. mr. andrews: mr. dicks has the right idea. what we ought to vote on today is a one-week extension that's clean that keeps everybody going in the government, including the military and resolve our differences. i think that's what we ought to be doing this morning. but what's standing in the way of that is this values debate that i talked about earlier. look, it's a position that we understand the majority party doesn't want to continue medicare as we've known it for all these years. we strongly disagree and we're prepared to have a fight to say why america needs medicare as it's always been but that disagreement should not shut the government down that disagreement over values should
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not mean the functions people have paid for in their taxes don't go forward. let's not shut the government down over the values debate. let's have the values debate as the government continues to orpe and by all means, let's protect medicare. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from massachusetts continues to resever. the gentlewoman from north carolina. ms. foxx: i continue to reserve, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: here we go again, a closed rule, put this one includes martial law authority. this means the republican leadership can bring any spending bill to the floor any time they want, so much for read the bill. this is not how the house republicans said they'd run the house. their record, mr. speaker, is abysmal. this bill is a perfect exasm of how they're doing things they said hay wouldn't do. a closed bill with martial law authority, i'm not surprised.
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yesterday a group of tea partyiers were -- partiers were protesting on the step of the -- steps of the capitol. that's a wonderful thing to be able to do but it's important to point out their protesting keeping the government open. they want to shut the government down. look at the front page of " c.q." today, a sign that says shut it down. it's time to act like adults and negotiate in good faith. it's time to come in good faith to keep the government open. to have a bill without ideological riders, riders that pretcht the e.p.a. from keeping our air and water safe, riders that prevent independent, nonpartisan agencies from reporting in afghanistan, egypt, and iraq. it's time the republican party do the right thing for their
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country not crust the extremist wing of their party. at the end of this debate, i'll oppose the previous question. the previous -- if the previous question is defeated, i'll offer a clean c.r. for one week. no harmful cuts like those included in the republican bill. the government stays open while we continue to negotiate. now that they're at the table, it's time to let them do their jobs and come to a deal without a continual move of the legislative goal post that's going on in the republican billism ask unanimous consent to insert the text of the amendment in the record along with extraneous material immediately prior to the vote on the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. mcgovern: i urge my colleagues to defeat the previous question and defeat this closed -- closed rule my friends on the other side of the aisle need to get serious about negotiating an end to this impasse and stop their ideological riders that are attached to this bill, get serious an let's get this
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passed. we can again to deal with -- we can begin to deal with next year's budget. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentlewoman from north carolina. ms. foxx: as our colleague aos the aisle said, here we go again. here we go again was the democrats misleading the american people about what this rule is about, what this bill is about, the underlying bill. mr. dicks said he wanted the rule as it is. our colleagues across the aisle don't want us to be able to take up another bill in case there's an agreement with the president on a long-term c.r. there's only one rider on this bill, mr. speaker. and that is to not allow taxpayer funding for apportions in beasheds. my colleague across the aisle said national security shouldn't -- should include paying for all these government programs. the federal government is the only branch of government that
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can handle national security and that means funding our troops. that's exactly what this underlying bill does. mr. speaker, our colleague said it's time feerm to read the bill. how interesting that when they were in control they didn't want anybody to read the bills and they said you wouldn't know what was going to be in the bill until after it was passed. i'm sorry, mr. speaker, there are words for that, i'm afraid i should not use those on the floor today for fear it might slow down our debate here. but i want to say i'm particularly concerned that our colleagues have brought up the issue of values. i'm pleased they brought the issue of values. our colleague from new jersey says what this is, it's about the value of medicare. mr. speaker, it show what is they value are government programs. what we value are life and freedom. there is a distinct difference,
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mr. speaker, in the values of the two parties in this country. one wants more government funding, one wants government control of our lives, the other wants freedom for the american people and life for unborn children. mr. speaker, they are misleading the american people, there's nothing about medicare in this rule or in this underlying bill. we discussed at great length why america needs this rule and this bill, in the face of a government shutdown, our my is struggling, people are looking for job, they demand accountability and belt tightening in washington, d.c. they need the federal government to stop draining job creating resources from the private sector to fund misguided adventures in social engineering. they demand action. it's for these reasons i urge my leagues to vote for the rule and the underlying bill so we can begin to restore the trust
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americans have in their federal government and restore this economy. i yield back the balance of my time and move the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on ordering the previous question. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the ayes have it. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, on that i ask for a recorded vote. the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman ask for the yeas and nays? mr. mcgovern: i ask for the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the yeas and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number having risen, the yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device pursuant to clause 8 and clause 9 of rule 20 the 15-minute vote on ordering the previous question, will be followed by five-minute votes of adoption of house resolution 206 if ordered and approval of the journal. this will be a 15-minute vote on the previous question.
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 238 and the nays are 185. the previous question is ordered. the question is on adoption of the resolution. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i ask for the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman from massachusetts ask for a recorded vote? mr. mcgovern: yes. i ask for a recorded vote. the speaker p tempore: a recorded vote is asked. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordere members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning
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in less than two days a decision must be made as to whether the government closes or stays open, whether we put the american people first and reach an agreement or have, as i will explain in a few minutes, issues having nothing to do with government funding to cause the government to shut down. we met last night, the speaker and i, with the president for quite a long time, an hour and a half or two hours. the meeting was initially one with the president, the vice
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president, speaker boehner and myself were present to try to work through these issues. we then went into a mting with our staffs to try to work through these issues. the numbers, mr. president, are basically there. that's where we a. my staff, the president's staff, the speaker's staff worked through the night to try to come up with an appropriate way to end this impasse. i repeat, mr. president, the numbers are basically there. but i am not as nearly as optimistic -- and that's an understatement -- as i was 11 hours ago. the numbers are extremely close. our differences are no longer over how much savings we get under government spending. the only thing -- the only thing holding up an agreement is
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ideology. i'm sorry to say, mr. president, that my friend, the speaker, and the republican leadership have drawn a line in the sand not dealing with the deficit that we know we have to dl with, that we've made significant cuts, not with the numbers that would fund the government to the end of this fiscal year. that's not the issue. the iss is ideology. not numbers. now, there are a number of issues, but the two main issues that are holding this matter are up the choice of women, reoductive rights, and clean air. these matters have no place on a budget bill, mr. president. this is a bill to keep the government running with dollars. they want to roll back the clean air act. the bottom line is this: if we
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are going to sit down at the negotiating table as we have and fund the government, it should be based on government funding. i know there are some rambunctious new members of the house of representatives over there, and there are probably some of there who have been there for a long time, who are more senior who are republicans, and this is their time to shine. but do that in a legislative manner. don't do it on a spending bill. they could send the stuff, we'll get to it when we can to show we can get to things, we've done it on this clean air bill, very difficult issues; dealing with 1099, governmen issues relating to the health care bill. tough, we did it. we had a bunch of votes yesterday on e.p.a. funding. we can legislate, and we can do that on issues that are difficult. we showed thathis week in the senate. but no one can realistically think that we can walk out of a
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room and suddenly agree on a matter that's been around for 40 -- i'm sorry. we can't walk out of a room and focus on an issue that's been around for four decades, issue relating to choice. this is a legislative matr. we can't solve in one night a disagreement this country has been fighting for for four decades. there are very, very did he have sides have been take -- very, very definite sides have been taken. i serve
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for what purpose does the majority leader rise? mr. cantor: i ask unanimous consent to speak out of order for one minute to inform members of a change in the upcoming legislative schedule. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized. mr. cantor: i'd like to inform my colleagues that the house will meet at 10:00 a.m. for morning hour and 12:00 p.m. for legislative business tomorrow. as the members know, this is a change from the original calendar. due to ongoing negotiations, mr. speaker, surrounding
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continued appropriations for the remainder of fiscal year 2011, i believe it is both appropriate and necessary for the house to be in session tomorrow. i expect legislative business to include but may not be limited to h.j.res. 37 a resolution of disapproval regarding the f.c.c.'s recent internet and broadband industry regulation ruling. votes are possible at any time ter noon tomorrow. at this time, it is too early to tell whether the house will need to be in session this weekend. in the case of lapse in appropriations, i fully expect the house to meet. mr. speaker, we will not leave town until we fulfilled our obligation to cut spending to begin getting our fiscal house in order --
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mr. cantor: mr. speaker, we are -- the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order. mr. cantor: mr. speaker, we are committed to getting our fiscal -- the spker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend. the house will come to order. mr. cantor: mr. speaker, we are committed to getting our fiscal house in order and keep the government functioning. therefore members should keep their schedules for this weekend as flexible as possible and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: i thank the majority -- m hoyer: i thank the majority leader for yielding, i share his sue we ought to keep the government running fonot only the sake of our economy but for the sake of all those that rely on the federal government. my friend has made the observation in the past that shutting down the government
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and i believe the speaker made the same observation, was not a national policy for us to pursue. i ask the gentleman because i believe that the resolution that we will be considering will not either pass the senate nor be signed by the president. in light of that, and in light of the fact that the majority leader of the senate and the speaker have both indicated that negotiations are ongoing, woul the gentleman agree to a unanimous consent that we, as we have done so often in the past, when the majority democrats were in control of the house and the senate, disagreed with president bush, that we would have a hold in place unanimous consent continuing resolution, not changing the status on either side of the negotiations, for
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seven days, which would give the parties the opportunity to come to an agreement? my understanding from the leader of the senate is that we have agreed to some $70 billion in cuts which is a substantial way toward what you wanted and a show that we share the view that we need to have fiscal restraint. so i ask my friend if i made a unanimous consent request that we continue the government authority to stay running until next friday without changing the status quo so that neither party would be disadvantaged and that our government would in fact, as the gentleman observes is his objective, be able to stay in service to the american people.
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mr. cantor: mr. speaker, first of all i'd rpond to the gentleman to say there's no indication in any definite way that the senate would not take up and pass the piece of legislation that we would bring up today. as a response to the second part of his inquiry, regarding our going along with the unanimous consent, i would say to the gentleman, no, we don't accept the status quo. mr. hoyer: will the gentleman yield. mr. cantor: mr. speaker, america is broke. that is why we are trying to address the need -- that is w we are trying to address the need to get our -- mr. speaker, the house is not in order.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. the house is not in order. mr. cantor: that's why we're trying to address our fiscal crisis and to get the debt under control. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, will the gentleman yield. mr. captor: i yield. mr. hoyer: the white house -- i want to inform the gentleman the white house has just issued an intent to veto the resolution you are offering. i tell my friend that if in fact the gentleman wants to keep the government running while negotiations proceed, we have already agreed to a substantial billions of dollars in reductions in spending for 2011. we did so and we've agreed on that. as the gentleman knows, i have voted for both of the previous resolutions. i believe that beth of those could pass and in fact i was
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correct they did pass. i tell my friend, this resolution in my view will not -- that both of those could pass and i was correct and ty did pass. i tell my friend this resolution in my view will not pass. however, we are having discussions. we never shut down the government when we had the majority and president bush was in power and the reason -- and i tell my friend the reason we did not shut it down is because -- the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order, the gentleman will suspend. mr. hoyer: we agreed with the premise you have stated and the premise the speaker has stated that shutting down the government was not a process that was useful for our economy, for jobs, for our people, or for the services th are expected of us. what is useful is for us to rationally provide a cntext in
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which negotiations which quite obviously have not yet been completed are completed. now, you've heard me talk about the perfectionist caucus. you can't get it all your way, we can't get it all our way, but in fact, the american public overwhelmingly elected president obama for a four-year term. he's in office. mr. gingrich said that we were ignoring the 2010 election results. we observe that the 2008 election results were regularly ignored by your side of the aisle the last two years. what i am saying to my friend, there is a rational way for us to proceed and very frankly, when we were in your shoes, we did so. when we couldn't reach agreement with president bush. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be come to order. mr. hoyer: the tea party on your side, as is so often the case --
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mr. cantor: mr. speaker, mr. speaker -- reclaiming my time. mr. speaker, reclaiming my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reclaims his time. mr. cantor: mr. speaker, i would say let us look at why we are mr. speake the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order. the gentleman will suspend. the house will come to order. mr. hoyer: we have lite doubt on our side of the aisle why we are where we are today. mr. cantor: reclaiming my time. the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. cantor: i say, mr. speaker, we are trying to do the business
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of the american people. we do not want to shut the government down. we don't accept the status quo. we don't want to bankrupt this nation. we believe there's a fiscal crisis demanding urgent action, mr. speaker. and with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. without objection, five-minute voting will continue. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, the unfinished business is the qution on agreeing to the speaker's approval of the journal. on which the yeas and nays were ordered. the question is on agreeing to the to the speaker's approval of the journal. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker pro tempe: on this vote the yeas are 307. the nays are 113. with two voting present.
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the journal stands approved. for what purpose does the gentleman from kentucky seek recognition? mr. rogers: may we have order, madam chairman? the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. please take your conversations off the floor. please take your conversations off the floor. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: madam speaker, pursuant to the rule just passed, i call up the bill h.r. 1363 making appropriations for the department of defense for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2011, and for other
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purposes, and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 1363, a bill making appropriations for the department of defense for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2011, and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to house resolution 206, the bill is considered as read. the gentleman from kentucky, mr. rogers, and the gentleman from washington, mr. dicks, each will control 30 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from kentucky. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on h.r. 1363 and that i may include tabular material on the same. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i
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rise today to support h.r. 1363, the department of defense and further additional continuing appropriations act of 2012. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend. i ask everyone in the chamber to take their conversations off the floor. i think our members would like to proceed but we cannot proceed as long as you're staying on the floor and talking. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i ask my colleagues, madam speaker, to support this bill so that we can avoid a
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government shutdown and provide the necessary time to finally complete negotiations on a final funding agreement for the rest of the 2011 fiscal year. this bill funds government operations for one week while reducing spending by $12 billion . these cuts include funding rescissions, reductions, and program terminations from nearly all areas of the government. virtually all of these cuts were also included in h.r. 1, many were included in the president's budget requests, the senate's alternate -- alternative to h.r. 1 or the recent o.m.b. c.r. proposal. most importantly, madam speaker, this bill supports our troops and our national security by providing funding for our
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national defense for the remainder of this fiscal year. our troops and their families deserve to have the financial security we promised them while we continue to work towards a final budget agreement. after months of uncertainty, it's high time we provide for our national security in a responsible way. this means commonsense funding that ensures the safety of our war fighters and the success of our missions abroad. however, while this legislation points us in the right direction on security and spending cuts, what we all want right now is to wrap up these negotiations, complete the process for 2011, and move our many other important legislative items on to the table. as i have said many times before, madam speaker, short-term measures like this
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are not the preferable way to fund the government. so while no one wants to fund the government in one or two week bursts, this short-term c.r. is one we must do to prevent a government shutdown and allow time to pass a smart and thoughtful bill for the rest of the year. mr. speaker, coming into this congress the democrats left us with a financial mess, soaring deficits, unchecked spending, and no budget, not a single appropriations bill for 2011. and now that we are six months into the fiscal year, the senate democrats have yet to produce any plan to help clean up this mess. despite all the roadblocks we faced throughout this process, we must continue down the path to fiscal solvency, and this
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c.r. both affords us the time required to complete negotiations as well as makes the spending cuts needed to continue to help balance our budgets. we are committed to making real spending cuts like these to reduce our deficits both now and in the future. we are determined to complete this work where democrats failed to do so. while answering our constituents' calls to reduce excessive government spending, this bill provides time to negotiate in an honest way to do what is not only right for our constituents, our nation, and our financial future, let's pass this bill and finally get this leftover work from last year behind us once and for all. thank you, madam speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. .
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the gentleman from washington, mr. dicks is recognized. mr. dicks: i yield two minutes to the distinguished former whip, mr. clyburn who is now the assistant majority leader. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. clyburn: thank you very much, i thank my friend for yielding me the time. madam speaker, my republican friends bring to the floor today a transparent political ploy that's an insult to our men and women in uniform and their families. it says that the republican majority is willing to put up the funding to arm and equip our troops fighting overseas for the remainder of the year. but they won't find a way to fund the rest of the federal programs that assist their
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spouses, children, and parents who are making significant sacrifices keeping the home front together while their loved ones give all that they have to keep all of us safe and free. no, they are happy to submit them, their families, to the whims of a budget debate that i'm concerned is rapidly moving toward a shutdown that many of their supporters are clamoring for and seem pleased to have happen. this is no peace of mind for a soldier fighting in the field to defend our freedoms and interest if his or her spouse or parents are being furloughed at home or their children are being denied essential services.
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is this bill going anywhere in the senate? i don't think so. certainly hope not. this kind of insensitivity should never be codified. madam speaker, the v.a.'s backlog is expensive and growing. let's stop wasting time and raising anxieties. let's get back to the negotiating table to avoid the government shutdown and the damage it will do to american families. thank you very much, madam speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: this keeps the government operating. i yield three minutes to the chairman of the defense propings subcommittee, mr. young of florida. the speaker pro tempore: the
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gentleman is recognized for three minutes. mr. young: thank you very much, madam speaker. make no mistake about it, this is a defense appropriations bill. this bill is based on one that was written under chairman dicks last year and should have been brought to this floor and passed into law last year. but for some reason, this one, along with every other appropriations bill, didn't see the light of day. this may not be the most perfect defense bill we've ever produced here, but it is a good bill. it will keep the defense department functioning. here's the problem that for those of us that work every day of our lives in national defense, we see what's happening. under a continuing resolution, the defense department is getting terribly close, dangerously close to affecting
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readiness, troops and their families. this is not something we can allow to continue. put away the politics. understand the importance of taking care of our soldiers and our sailors and airmen and marines. and their friends. don't make them go without a paycheck. because most of them move from paycheck -- live from paycheck to paycheck. that's not right but that's the way it is. let's pass this bill. put politics aside. let's move the department of defense away from a continuing resolution that's having a very, very negative effect on our readyness and training. i want to compliment senator rogers for the good job he's done to get us to this point today. let's pass this bill and let's get on to the business of the country and especially defending our country an defending those who defend our country. i yield back.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentleman from washington is recognized. mr. dicks: i yield two minutes to the distinguished -- four minutes to the distinguished democratic whip, mr. hoyer, my good friend from maryland. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for four minutes. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for yielding. how i miss my magic minute. i want to say to the chairman of the appropriations committee, how often he and i have said, you know, when we have these impasses, we need a clean c.r. this c.r. is unclean. this c.r. will not get us to where you say you want to get, mr. chairman, and that's not shutting down the government. because you know and i know the president will not sign this bill. why? because you put in poison pills that you know are unacceptable to him. why?
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so you can get the votes on your side of the aisle to vote for your bill to keep the government open. why is that difficult? because so many of your folks, unless they get 100%, are prepared to shut down the government. you and i both know that, mr. chairman. i have great respect for you. i think you and i could go in a ram and solve this in 30 seconds but you and i are not in that room. it is time, as the speaker has said, to be adults. why is this a viable piece of legislation on the floor. -- on the floor? because you think you can hold the government ransom for an adecisional $12 billion. -- additional $2 billion. i said i would not support, after supporting the first two, which i thought were reasonable to try to give us an opportunity to solve the differences that exist between us, that i would not vote for a third onele.
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an i'm not going to vote for this one. it won't matter because it's dead anyway, you all know it's dead. but you're banking on the fact that you know we don't want to shut down government. what's the proof in the pudding? we did not shut it down when we had disagreements with george bush. because we believe that reasonable people elected by a diverse community in america who have different opinions were expected by our public to come together, reason together and act productively together. very frankly, i don't take a back seat to anybody on this floor in my support of defense or the men and women in uniform and mr. young knows that, my dear friend. not a back seat to anyone. and yes, we pass a unanimous consent request to fund at
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present levels, defense would continue. should we have passed the defense bill last year? i think we should have. i'm sorry we didn't. i urge that we do it. but the senate, as you might recall, would not allow any bills to come to the floor. any bills. that is the republicans in the united states senate would not allow that to happen. so now we are faced with not a let's reason together bill, but an additional $12 billion in cuts. which means that week by week by week, you'll think you will get to what you want. not a compromise, not an agreement, but what you want. and you'll do it $5 billion a week, $2 billion a week, this one is $12 billion a week. and you have no expectation that that will pass or be
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signed by the president. but you do it to pretend you want to keep government in operation. newt gingrich said, don't worry about shutting down the government as he shut it down in 1995 and over christmas for three weeks in 1995 and 1996. ladies and gentlemen, on my side of the aisle, we ought to reject this specious political act which pretends we want to keep the government open. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. hoyer: 30 additional seconds. mr. dicks: i yield the gentleman 30 seconds. mr. hoyer: we ought to do what you and i have done in the past as members of the appropriations committee. say we haven't reached an agreement, we do a clean c.r. at present level while we continue to negotiate on behalf of the american people to do what we all want to do, we've got to bring this deficit down, we can point fingers at one
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another as to -- mr. dicks: if we had a clean c.r., the president would pass it into law. mr. hoyer: and the president would sign it. i urge my colleagues to reject this c.r. and adopt a clean c.r. that will keep the government in operation. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. hoyer: i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the chair needs to remind members that remarks in debate must be addressed to the chair and not to other members in the second person. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: insofar as as the military is concerned, this is not a c.r., this funds the rest of the year. i yield three minutes to the gentleman from california, mr.
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mccann. -- mckieon. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mckeon: i rise in strong support of this continuing resolution to fund the rest of the year, cut federal spending and prevent a government shutdown. fail wrur to pass this resolution would intentionally harm those who made great sacrifices in defense of our ideals and values. we cannot have our fighting forces on the front line in iraq, afghanistan, and libya wondering if their families at home will be provided for. it would be a grave injustice and a gross affront to the civil-military relationship. their pay cannot, should not be disrupted. not for a week, not for a few days, not for a second. our men and women in uniform deserve better.
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i don't even want to contemplate a government shutdown. but if it should happen, people need to know that the pay to our military one suspended. this means we would have our troops on the front lines, risking their lives with their families at home with bills to pay and mouths to feed and they wouldn't get their paycheck. as secretary gates has said, many of our youngest sailor, soldiers, airmen and marines live from paycheck to paycheck. while wives and husbands are off fighting to keep this nation safe, we cannot have them left wondering what's happening to their families. i think we're mature enough to fix this problem, but if we don't, failing to properly resource the defense department during the difficult tries of war could arrest the momentum that's been achieved through blood, sweat, and tears of our troops. the military is already
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overstretched. overdeployed and overworked. should this resolution fail, they'll also be underpaid. we have too much riding on these young men and women to sell them short. let's work together to figure out this budget but let's get this military pay issue off the table first. i encourage all members to send a clear message to our military men an women supporting this -- by supporting this critical troop funding appropriations bill. this congress believes in you, we support you, we honor your dedication. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from kentucky continues to reserve. the gentleman from washington. mr. dicks: i yield three minutes to the distinguished gentleman from virginia mr. moran, the former chairman of interior, now the ranking democratic member of the interior and environment subcommittee.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for three minutes. mr. moran: i thank the distinguished former chair of the appropriations committee and now ranking member of the committee as well as defense. madam speaker, none of us want any of our soldiers to go unpaid for one day or one moment. obviously they should not. but there are also representatives of virtually every agency in the government that are working for our goals and objectives throughout the world in combat situations, many of them, many of them in hardship situations, and much of the essential work of the government, our people in the military would be the first to say, is performed by people who don't have to be in uniform. . none of them should go without pay.
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this government represents the most important nation in the world, and we are responsible for funding it. we represent the people and they work for the people. the problem with this bill is that the decision to bring it up now is tantamount to shutting down that government. what we should be doing is exactly what mr. hoyer and mr. dicks have suggested, bringing up a clean, continuing resolution, letting us get through the weekend, come up with a long-term resolution for the rest of the fiscal year. then fight out these ideological battles in the fiscal year 2012 appropriations bills. this is no way to run a government, madam speaker. but we do have some precedent. the last time the republican party took over the congress back in 1995, some of my
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colleagues will recall, we also shut down the government. during the christmas period, 27 days, and we know what happened then. 800,000 federal government workers were furloughed. it cost the taxpayers more than $1.4 billion. let me just mention some of the things that happened then and will happen again. the minerals management service had to shut down. many of the rigs that produce oil that powers this economy. it estimated that the companies who own those rigs had to pay at least $525,000, couldn't get any oil. they were shut-in. and in fact, we had 200,000 u.s. applications for passports which went unprocessed. 30,000 applications by
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foreigners for visas, much business, that had to be done in this country, was closed down. u.s. tourist industries and airlines sustained millions of dollars in losses. that's what will happen again. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. moran: can i have another 30 seconds? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for an additional 30 seconds. mr. morerian: toxic waste cleanup was stopped at 609 sites. 368 national park service sites were closed down. seven million visitors weren't able to visit the parks. there were more than two million visitors who couldn't go to national museums or monuments. the smithsonian will be shut down. federal contractors will furlough. throughout this country not just in the federal government, this economy took a deep hit. jobs were lost. money was lost. people couldn't pay their mortgage. the speaker pro tempore: the
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gentleman's time has expired. mr. moran: don't let it happen again, madam speaker. let's pass a clean c.r. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield two minutes to the member of our committee from texas, mr. cotter. two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for nts minutes. mr. cart -- is recognized for two minutes. mr. carter: thank you, madam speaker. thank you, mr. chairman. this past week or so ago we had the n.c.o.'s of the armed services come in to appear before the milcon committee and the question was asked, i believe, by my friend on the other side, that what is the number one concern of the united states military that are fighting our wars today? our wars in afghanistan, iraq, and now libya? what is their number one concern? every top n.c.o. of every service said, losing their paycheck. and not being able to care for their families back home.
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now, the democrats are holding our poor troops hostage so that they can have this agenda that will result in shutting down the government. let's make this clear. what we are offering today is to continue the government in action for the next week, but to make sure that our troops know that their pay will be save because we are going to fund the defense department for the next five months. this is intolerable. we have offered in house resolution 1 to fund the entire government and to fund our troops. the democrats reject it. we are offering again today to fund our troops and make sure that they are going to get paid and make sure the contracts are met and essential training services are there. they refuse it. we ask them -- we have a backup bill, 1297, which just
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guarantees the troops get paid. they refused it. now the commander in chief of the military in this country has announced he is going to veto a bill that would see to it that our soldiers get paid. what is the number one worry of men and women in combat today? will my folks back home have a paycheck? that's not me saying that. that's the n.c.o.'s. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. carter: we need to respect that. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized. mr. dicks: i yield three minutes to the distinguished gentleman from north carolina, mr. price, who is the ranking member on the homeland security subcommittee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from north carolina is recognized for three minutes. mr. price: madam speaker, i rise in opposition to this continuing resolution. all of us know we are having this debate at a difficult and challenging and tense time. we are facing an entirely
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unnecessary governmental shut down. a shut down that's already been disruptive to critical governmental functions and our communities and may become radically more so, but we all know, everyone in this chamber knows, this could have been avoided. this is a politically generated crisis. in december this house faced the possibility of passing an omnibus appropriations bill, 12 subcommittee bills assembled with party cooperation with substantial savings relative to the president's budget request, and republicans in the senate refused to even consider that omnibus bill. so failing that, we said, what about a year-long continuing resolution? again again -- again, republicans in the senate said they would filibuster such a bill. so here we are. what our friends on the other side of the aisle opted for instead was a potential march shutdown that they thought they
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could use to leverage the tea party agenda. now, i and many others on this side of the aisle, have been willing in recent weeks to vote for two short-term continuing resolutions to give the process more time. we accepted additional cuts, cuts that avoided real damage to the recovering economy. or to critical investments. but this resolution before us today, my colleagues, breaks with that pattern. it attempts to hold the house and the country hostage to an extreme ideological position to which the republican conference has unfortunately caved in. this resolution proposes $12 billion in unacceptable cuts, cuts that would damage this fragile recovery and cuts that would damage critical national investments. it would take $200 million from the supplemental nutrition program for women, infants, and children.
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it takes hundreds of millions from federal law enforcement. it would take millions from the department of energy's environmental cleanup programs. it would -- in the homeland security area with which i'm most familiar because of the subcommittee i chaired and now serve as ranking member, it would reduce fema's state and local grants by 20% below 2010 levels. and both the state homeland security grants and the urban area security grants would go to historically low levels. the continuing resolution would decimate the land and water conservation fund. it would radically cut the clean water and drinking water revolving funds. it cuts centers for excellence for veteran students. it cuts from the centers for disease control critical funds. it would cut a billion and a half from a critical national investment, high-speed rail. 20 additional seconds.
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mr. dicks: 30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has an additional 30 seconds. mr. price: madam speaker, these cuts are serious business. they have the potential to damage this fragile recovery and to compromise critical national investments. we cannot be held hostage. this country, this congress cannot be held hostage. this crisis has been artificially created for political purposes, but that doesn't mean we need to go along with it. we can pass a clean continuing resolution and continue the discussions, but we cannot do this kind of damage to our economy. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i yield two minutes to the chairman on our committee, the subcommittee for transportation and h.u.d., the gentleman from iowa, mr. latham, two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from iowa is recognized for two minutes. mr. latham: i thank the -- madam
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speaker, i thank the gentleman from kentucky. the idea that this is somehow artificially created is unbelievable. is there any memory over on the other side here about what happened last year for the first time since the budget act of 1974 that you didn't even attempt to pass a budget last year? you initiated what the majority on your side both in the house and senate and the presidency did not pass one bill into law. that's why we are here today. you know it's not artificial. and i'm glad they got the talking points out from senator schumer about being extreme. i'll tell you what's extreme is to continue to spend this country into oblivion. you're going to have our kids and grandchildren working for the chinese if you continue this. and that's why, madam speaker, today i rise in support of h.r. 1363, the troop funding bill. it's unfortunate that we have to
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be here in this way today, but we have no choice because of the inaction of the other side from last year. this bill will provide much needed certainty for our troops in the field and would keep the government opened for another week. it also makes $10 billion -- $12 billion in cuts in other programs. most of which were proposed by the president and by the democrats. the cuts that we are talking about that are so supposedly draconian out of a $3.6 trillion budget, we can't cut $12 billion apparently. now, many in the senate would like to see the department of defense budget used as an offset to continue the spending binge we are on here in washington, but we cannot allow our troops to be used as a bargaining chip in negotiation. it's time to take the department of defense off the table and fund our troops for the rest of this year. our brave men and women in the field engaged in three different wars, one just started again by
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this president, around the globe and they deserve to know that they have the full support of this congress. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. rogers: an additional 30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for an additional 30 seconds. mr. latham: we owe it to those sacrificing for us both home and abroad to ensure there is not an interruption of their pay. this measure continues to show the house republicans' commitment to our men and women in uniform. and while protecting the cause of freedom around the world as well as our commitment to fiscal sanity in cutting spending while keeping the government open. if this is reject the by the house and senate democrats and the white house, it's amazing the commander in chief of the military is going to veto a bill that will fund his troops. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. latham: i never heard anything more outrageous. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized. mr. dicks: i yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman
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from new york, mr. israel, who is a former member of the appropriations committee doing great things in his new job. two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized for two minutes. mr. israel: i thank my friend. i thank the gentleman. mr. speaker, republicans came to washington promising to change the way washington works, and what do they give us? this political stunt of a resolution. they came to the majority in 1994 and shut down the government. they came back to the majority in 2010 and they want to shut down the government, and they want to blame democrats for doing that. the american people see right through this. they know that you demanded $73 billion in cuts and we agreed to $73 billion in cuts. now you're saying you want more. they know that not only do you want more, but you want to add restrictions on a woman's right to choose. they keep moving the goal posts further and further to the far, far, far, far right.
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and it is enough. now, i keep hearing my friends on the other side of the aisle talk about their concern about debt and deficits, and we agree. let me remind my friend on the other side of the aisle that several weeks ago we offered an amendment that would have reduced spending by asking the top five richest oil companies in america just to forgo this year's portion of their tax subsidy. and they said no. let me remind my friends that several weeks ago we offered to reduce spending by eliminating funding for the bridge to nowhere, and they said no. . they seep keep spending on the top five richest oil companies, keep spending on the bridge to nowhere, but privatize social security, make senior citizens tighten their belt, make them sacrifice, but when it comes to our friends in the special interests, spend, spend, spend. we see through it, the american
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people see through it. it's time to do what we offered to do, meet you where you wanted to meet us until you moved those goal posts. enough, madam speaker. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will remind the members that remarks in debate must be addressed to the chair and not to other members in the second person. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: may i inquire as to the time remaining on both sides? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky has 16 and a half -- has 16 1/2 and the gentleman from washington has 14 1/2 minutes remaining. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield two minutes to one of my hard working subcommittee chairmen on propings, the chairman of the interior subcommittee, the gentleman from idaho, mr. simpson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes.
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mr. simpson: there's a way to avoid the consequences of a government shutdown my friend just talked about a few minutes, that's to pass this c.r. and put it on the president's desk so he will sign it. i believe he will sign it. the gentleman from north carolina said this could have been avoided. he's absolutely right, this could have been avoided. it could have been afreuded by when the democrats controlled the house and the senate and the presidency last year actually passing a budget or passing an appropriations bill on the floor of the house. guess what? that never happened you left us with thises me and now you complain about the way we're trying to clean it up. the gentleman also said this is an ideological position on which the republicans will not yield. he's right. and that ideological position is this country is in a fiscal crisis and we are going to get our house back in order. if that's the pgs -- if that's the position we're being criticized for, i welcome that criticism.
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nobody want this is government to be shut down. frankly, there's absolutely no reason to shut down the government, the smart thing to do would be to pass the one-week c.r. that saves the taxpayers $12 billion and addresses the duel goal ifes dressing the fiss -- the dual goals of addressing the fiscal crisis we're in and it funds the troops for the rest of the year, enables our congressional leaders in the white house -- and we the white house to cross the t's and dot the i's on the spending bill. many of these spend regular duckses are those that were submitted to congress in his f.y. 2011 or f.y. 2012 budgets. these are spend regular ducks that will probably be in any final agreement that is made between republicans and democrats system of the $12 billion is not extreme. it will be in the final agreement, whatever that agreement is. there's absolutely no reason
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why the senate cannot pass this bill and extend -- and send it to the white house. i believe if you put it on the president's desk, he'll sign society our troops are funded. i yield back. mr. dicks: i yield two minutes -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized. mr. dicks: i apologize. i yield two minutes to the gentlewoman from the district of columbia, ms. norton, who can explain why part of this c.r. is very ideologically driven and extreme. the speaker pro tempore: the jerusalem is recognized for two minutes. ms. norton: i thank the gentleman for his efforts. i'm here to say to my good friends on the other side, it's one thing to beat up on the district of columbia, it's another thing to drop a bomb on the city. that's what this c.r. does. it takes the route of authoritarian government and dictatorship, by dictating to a
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local government how it may spend its local funds and it may force the district of columbia government to shut down, although our government had a balanced budget, has had it since last spring, passed, has been passed by the committees in this house, but because the congress can't figure out how to pass its own budget, it now threatens to close down the local budget of the district of columbia which doesn't have a dime in this budget, only local funds, my amendment could have avoided all of this by allowing local funds to continue to be spent by the district of columbia. the other side is engaged in many attacks on the city's right to self-government, from taking my vote in the committee of the whole, approved by federal courts, to their ride for the h.r. 1.
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but their attack on local self-government is a virtual taking of our local funds by not allowing the city to use its own money to keep its own local government running. worse, there's an attempt to use the district of columbia as a bargaining chip in these negotiations. there have been no riders in prior congressional resolutions. shamefully, the district of columbia here is paired with a rider that no prisoners can be brought into the united states with another that says d.c.'s local funds shall be captured by keeping the city -- may i have 30 seconds? the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman is recognized for 30 seconds. ms. norton: by keeping the city from spending its local funds on abortion, how much more
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content can you show for those who live in the nation's capital. if they're going to require members to cite the constitution in introducing legislation, i ask them to stop tearing up the constitution and throwing it in the faces of the american citizens who live in the nation's capital. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: -- the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from washington rise? mr. dicks: i think the gentleman wants me to do another speaker, i recognize the gentleman from vermont, mr. welch, for two additional minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from vermont is recognized for two minutes. mr. welch: thank you, madam speaker. thank you, mr. dicks. there is something we have to acknowledge, whatever side of the issue we're going to vote on.
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we are playing with fire. a government shutdown will have two consequences, one the obvious that folks who depend on governmental services will be enormously inconvenienced. contractors owed money from the federal government won't be paid. our citizens are going to be adversely hurt and folks who work honestly and hard every day for the federal government are going to be out of a job. that's significant. but what's really significant in the long-term is that this is sending a signal to the world, not just america, that the american political process is fundamentally broken. if we're unable to reach an agreement on a one-week continuing resolution to keep government going, one of the prospects for us when -- what are the prospects for us when we face the challenge of a budget next year? what are the prospects for us when we face the challenge that looms ahead of us in maye of
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raising the debt ceiling so that america can honor the obligations that it has to pay its bills? when the world begins to lose confidence that america's political process can function, it is going to have a very dramatic and negative impact on the economy, interest rates are going to go up because the cost of borrowing will go up because the anxiety about whether america meets its obligations will increase. we are playing with fire here. the biggest problem i have with the proposals that have been made fiscally on the other side in my view, is that they're designed to fail. it's not that there isn't a legitimate concern about spending and getting our fiscal house in order. you're right about that. we share that. but if we're going to get from here to there, you cannot attack 100% of the problem on
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the budget. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i yield myself 30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. rogers: chairman simpson a moment ago referred and reminded us that we're in this mess that we're in because the other side when they controlled the house last year failed to pass a single appropriations bill. and left the mess in our hands when we took over in january. that reminds me a little bit, and now they're complaining about the way we're trying to clean up their mess. it reminds me a bit of abraham lincoln back in illinois when he was practicing law, spoke of a man who was accused of killing his parents. and in court, made a plea that he was -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. rogers: made a plea he was an orphan. i yield two minutes to the
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chairman of the subcommittee on our full committee, the gentlelady, mrs. emerson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from missouri is recognized. mrs. emerson: i rise in support of this resolution and really want to express, i believe, the opinion of all of us that we do not want the federal government to shut down because doing so means abrogating our responsibility. our responsibility to serve the american people from both the legislative and executive bramblings. we've -- branches. we've all talked about how it means the men and women in uniform will face the uncertainty of serving without pay. your phones must be ringing like mine are because we are hearing from so many military families we represent, they're facing uncertainty on top of uncertainty, posted overseas or with a family member away on active duty, in harm's way, they're trying to keep their households intact. and the president would veto such a piece of legislation?
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and so, this measure achieves two important goals. it assure ours military operations and the pay of our military and the pay of our military members are not interrupted and provides us another week to continue negotiations. no one in this congress should mistake this for easy work because it isn't. we're attempting to reduce discretionary spending from historic heights, control the growth and scope of government and give our children a future where the necessary functions we enjoy today exist for them tomorrow. we're also attempting to endow them with a future in which they can enjoy low taxes, keep more of what they earn and invest in new ideas and opportunities, those things that made our nation great. the negotiators and staff members on both sides of this effort are working late hours, weekends, and i'm convinced we all want to get this right but it would be more helpful if we could agree to work and find
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consensus instead of ripping apart a one-week bill that funds our troops. i'm not the only one to notice we began the budget process for 2012 this week. at the very moment when we're trying to r.v. -- resolve our responsibilities for 2011. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time is expired. mr. rogers: i yield the gentlelady another 30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. mrs. emerson: i hope we can achieve that goal this week to move on to the next order of business, serbing the people we represent through the budget process and making difficult decisions to curtail spending when we can't afford, we shouldn't borrow and we sure don't want our children and grandchildren to pay the bill when it comes due. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's -- gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from washington. mr. dicks: i yield two minutes to the distinguished gentlelady from ohio, ms. kaptur, the most
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senior woman in the house of representatives and on the appropriations committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from ohio is recognized for two minutes. ms. kaptur: i thank our distinguished ranking member, mr. dicks, for yielding me this time. madam speaker in our tender economy, where job creation should be our top priority, this flawed legislation moves us backwards. it gives us -- gives no confidence to the markets that anyone here in the majority knows what they are doing. this bill is partial, it is short-term, and it is a selective bill that leaves the vast majority of budget choices off the table. it is irresponsible. it selects only some of our valiant fighting forces, some would say uses them, and extends paychecks for some through the end of september. but it leaves out the majority of americans who expect good of americans who expect good government out of this congress

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