tv Today in Washington CSPAN April 19, 2011 6:00am-7:00am EDT
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to bust that strike. if we forget it is about a movement, every elected person, president obama, needs a fire under them pushing for justice. a broad segment of america to get people back to understanding. you always have to have direct action. you cannot leave that up to the people you elected. it is not fair to them. it is never successful. franklin delano roosevelt would not have done the new deal without the bottom-up pressure that was on him. >> your question sams where i started, that there were fewer union members. 12 million and to get members cannot be wrong. when you cut education, you'll not only put teachers' salaries
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and school bus drivers and their benefits at risk, but the children and the rest of america. the 13 million, we can work with, and we can speak for. all of the nonunion parents of those kids who are impacted, and we are getting that, and we are getting better at that. this is a can this operation, but it does not go to union households. it goes to nonunion households, and we find nonunion workers in michigan who think like us, and we signed them up, and they become part. this is growing, and i do not think it is stopping. >> to get to the technology piece, the innovation and technology in the last 20 or 30
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years that i have been a union member, it is absolutely incredible. i think what the technology has allowed organized labor to do is we have the ability now to reach out to our constituency, not only within our own membership but within the communities where we live and work, and social networking, like facebook, like twitter -- i am not an expert on any of that stuff, but my communications director is here. he is 25 years old, and he understands the difference that we have to make knowledge in terms of the tools we use to communicate with. all the facets of the work force that we represent. all of younger people, they do
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not read newspapers. they do not read print. they get their news off of the internet, so we have to capitalize on that and realize that the internet and all of the social networking tools not only give us the benefit to reach further, but there is an immediacy to it. you saw that with what went on in wisconsin in madison. the streaming video of this happening simultaneously was incredible, and that is powerful. it really gives organized labor the opportunity to really get the message out, on point, you know, immediately and enables us, like rich was talking, to give this grassroots mobilization happening, where 20 years ago, it would have taken us days to do that with telephone calls and writing
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letters and you name it, but today, it is a matter of minutes or hours. it just really has become a tool for us, and we really need to take and manage of that, and we clearly and stand what communication works for different segments of the work force. >> it has really made it easier for us. we no longer have to ask members to write letters to congress. it is definitely a tool, and it is definitely something we need to take advantage of. >> with all of the socially and the things talked about, the percentage of the work force that is in organized labor has been going down for a long time. as leaders of the union, how do
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you take that? do you try to focus on growing the numbers could >> yes. the absolutely focus on growing the numbers. in cwa, there has been a change in technology, and work has gone away. organized in 10 years 40,000 wireless workers who did not have a union, right? they did not exist before. we're continuing to do that. one story about organizing in the moment, t-mobile. there is the very conservative home town of the governor of maine.
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it was that they had no right to organize. it was not a certainty but the possibility that t-mobile would be acquired by at&t, which is committed to a majority signup and neutrality. today, there are t-mobile workers. for the very first time, -- that change and their ability to organize -- and obviously has to do with some changes in the industry. i think we will hear more about that in the months to come. >> first of all, i cannot let the opportunity pass to say that
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the decline in the labor movement did not happen by accident. it was a conscientious plan, just as there was a conscientious plan by the governor. neil liberals, ronald reagan, margaret thatcher -- neo liberals. you have regulations, and they affect the union, get rid of them. they understood something. they understood that we were the ground troops. there was a great teacher who said that every time you point the finger at somebody, there are three more pointing back at you. we let young people go off. we have not tried to address their needs. we have tried to shoehorn them into a model. and now, we are trying to change
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that. "tell us what you need us to be so that we can represent you, so we can bring you to the labor movement." giving people a permanent seat at our counsel, and we're bringing the men in an advisory capacity. i asked them continuously what we can do. there are millions who are excluded from collective bargaining. if you are an independent contractor, if you are a health- care worker, if you are a taxi cab driver in new york, and we are going after them. we're going after them and saying, "we are going to represent you." new types of organizing drives. the most exciting international organizing drive that i have heard of in a long time.
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an international drive. so we are really trying to change what we do and how we do it to make ourselves more relevant to workers, and it is catching on, because more and more workers are coming our way. we started an organization four years ago. it has 3.5 million members right now that say, "i want you to represent us in the political and legislative aspect," and now, they are also starting to say, "and i also want you to represent me on the job." we have a lot of ground to cover. we sat back and let globalization come into being, and we kept denying it existed. now, we are seeing that it is here. it is not going away. >> it mentioned the need for the unions to more actively debt
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members. at the top of the discussion. why do the rest of you not china in on that discussion? >> -- chime in? >> to engage our membership and have them have an ownership. there is a powerpoint, and one of the things we said, members, in the 1950's coming here is what it meant. -- in the 1950's, here is what it meant. you have to be an active part of rebuilding this in america. and i think it is really important to point out one of the reasons why unionization has fallen so far. the national labor relations act, we had a campaign in north carolina, where the workers of
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reorganized down the road, one block away from where they were. they saw the significant difference we made in workers' lives. the companies continue to be very successful, and the company did not agree to any fair practice, so we used another fair practice. 221 to 223. massive violations filed by the national labor relations board with that corporation. you know that today, seven years later, every single member of the uaw at organizing person has been fired or driven out. we are taking direct action.
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we will not let them violate the first amendment rights, freedom of speech, the right to be a union and to have collective bargaining. our allies and friends, internationally, to join us in branding them human rights violators, and you will see this in the labor movement. t-mobile, all kinds of unions are saying we're finding other ways to protect labor rights because of the national labor relations board. >> if we put a cross section of the country out here, you know, bill hall represented group, what is the public perception of organized labor today in america? >> i think it is radically different. >> we have been doing polis for
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about four years. >> you have an interest in this. >> yes, as a matter-of-fact. about 10 years ago or 12 years ago, but people started saying "the unions are not so bad, but they really cannot help me." then about five years ago, something helped make -- something happened. "unions are not so bad, but they can help me." we set out to get that chance because of what bob talked about. the level of interest in unions, collective bargaining, understanding the process of what collective bargaining can do for you, whether you are a professional, whether you are a blue collar worker or a white collar worker or another worker. this has something to offer you. we have seen small business groups come up to was and talk
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about collective bargaining. to thank us for some of the things we are doing. if it is up to us to make sure that that fresh look is a good luck. about the things that we do positively, about the things that we help with. the minimum wage, health and safety on the job, protection, social security, an education for every kid out there, not where daddy and mommy's pocketbook will take them, and we are trying our darndest. >> this is to really reach out to citizens, to be equal partners in building a movement. there is a tendency to say --
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surprisingly, people did not line up at the door to do that. i think it is really important. a really good example is from ohio. a lot is involved. there are a lot of community organizations involved. to train 150 citizen activists. they see what is going on in ohio, and they wanted to become a part of that. and people on the facebook page, and there are now over 130,000 people. health care america now, a wonderful organization.
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they have 18,000 people on their facebook page. a great campaign, spending millions of dollars, and face a page of 20,000, an elected official. it is hard to keep track of and hard to know. the democrats, the republicans, independents. they are union members and not. having a strong community. having good jobs. they want to be a part of it. they want to be connected. to recognize that we have to do it now. we are trying to do that.
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to stand up for ohio and facebook is something you can check out. >> speaking for federal sector labor unions, our union was one of three unions that recently commissioned some polling, as well, to sort of figure out how we responded to this-media and congressional action that is happening with federal employees, and the results are pretty interesting, because the bottom line is when it is all said and done, the public in our country things pretty highly of federal employees. and yet, when you ask the question "what do you think about the unions that represent these employees?" their approval ratings when announcing the delay, and i think part of it is due to basically this notion that somehow unions are disconnected
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from the employees that they represent, and that is nonsense. they are one in the same. the very word "union" implies that it is individual employees that come together to form an organization to represent and bargain, so we have got this disconnect, where we think this union is this nebulous thing out there, and people do not understand that that union is, at least in my case, made up of federal employees. so what we need to do, and i think the message we need to tell folks, and what we are doing is we are taking the tack of having our members tell their stories. what is in, for example, we represent veterans in administration doctors and
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nurses who are held and the highest esteem of any federal employees in the eyes of the public. those folks went right at the top in terms of a positive impression that the public has of them, so we're asking our members who are nurses and doctors to tell their story, you know, what it is they can do, the health care they provide veterans, how does that contribute to the nation and to the economy, how does that contribute to making the community's stronger, and talk about, and, again, during the reference from how much money that are paid. it is about the work that they do, the accomplishments that they have, and focus on making sure that those folks have the resources and the tools they need to continue to provide quality care for veterans, so it is about remessaging and getting
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out of the debate of whether the debate -- the deficit is $1.60 billion. the public really does not give a damn about numbers. they can care less about where you got your data, and we can have a debate about whether your data came from the heritage foundation or the department of statistics, and the average person out there does not give a damn, so it is not about data. it is about the work that people do and how that contributes to the greatest in this country and to the economy to get us out of the financial mess that we're in and putting the 30 million unemployed and underemployed americans who need to get back to work back to work in this country, and that will go a long ways to taking care of this problem that we have in united states today.
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every company promotes they're satisfied customers, accept us. our folks need to talk about -- folks need to know that we handle more than grievances. we are handling grievances for the same 1% of the membership. leaders need to step back and led to our members tell their stories. when we do a press conference, it does not need to be us out there all the time. it is to be folks telling their own story. in detroit, we have hard times getting the media out and the media told me, that is because we do not want to listen to you all the time. we want to listen to your members. what other kids about facebook. i need facebook to tell the union story. i've gotten -- they have said, i
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read that on facebook. i did not know that was happening. everybody needs to use that. >> ok. one more question. practice for questions. last question for the panel, let's look forward 25 years. what is one big change would like to see the labor union accomplished? >> a couple of things. i would like to see a larger percentage of younger workers in my union and i have today. i think that is an untapped resource in terms of membership and in terms of future leaders. one of the things that -- we have an obligation to our organization to do some successful planning and make
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sure we have folks in the pipeline that have the tools and skills, the training, the innovation, the willingness to step into those shoes when the current leadership retires or moves on. i have to be honest, i do not think we have done a good job there. i think that is something that -- it is because we have not put a lot of energy into recruiting and organizing younger workers. that is something that we started -- we changed our emphasis last year in our new organizing plan, our strategy. we're putting a lot of energy into reaching out to younger employees to figure out what it is that they need and what it is that we can offer them. to see some young faces in leadership, that would be one of the things i would like to say
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it -- see 20 years down the road. >> we have to be speaking for and representing workers, even -- even workers that are not in the formal relationship. we should be the voice for the unemployed, for example courage we should be the voice for the untrained, for example. we could become the entity that people think of when they think, i need to change careers, or do i look for help to do that. i need -- i need better health care insurance and we need to have those offerings for these allies that we are -- so we can sustain that relationship. >> this was about the future of the labor union. the fact that you ask that
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question, i need to say, definitely, we will be around in 25 years, no matter what they do. we will be around. it may make it more difficult for us, but we will be here. in 25 years, i would like to see as using every single tool that we have. i would like to see us using our contingency groups better. i would like to see unions reaching out to each other to help one another. even now, we have those who have relationships with elected officials that can help other unions, and i would like to see them come together and try to use that. i would like to see them using the central labor council and set up a triage kind of thing are everything is centered in there and unions come together under that banner to help each other. i guess that is self-serving,
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but i truly believe that they are the organizations that are there to pull everyone together. unions are so concerned about their unions, as they should be, but we are concerned about pulling them all together to be concerned about everybody. that is what i would like to see. >> let me jump off from that. we need to get better at doing is working together. the labor -- in this moment, the head of -- we need to sustain that and in 25 years, at that will get taken for granted. that will not be something
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people even ask about. we need to restore the right of workers across the country to organize. in mississippi, south carolina. we need to put private sector workers everywhere. some of that has to do with figuring out how to do it and not waiting for someone to change a lot. the law will follow. that is really the top priority of the labor movement, to figure out -- i hope we would have figured it out in 25 years. >> i believe in dreaming beg. what i would like to see in 25 years is a global middle-class. i would like for us to of rebuild the middle class in america. working within and across the world.
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and it is possible. it has happened in brazil. 20 million people taken at a poverty and move into middle- class because they are -- there are extremely strong union at movement. it is happening in china, and in mexico. i think it is possible. international solidarity, there is more work being done by unions together around the world to give workers the right to collective bargaining. >> the first thing -- i hope i am still around in 25 years. [laughter] i would like to have us have been a part of creating a manufacturing base that is the world's envy. so that everyone who wants to work at the time has a chance to work at a union job.
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that we have fully integrated are minorities, women, immigrants, and young people, that they are fully engaged in a labor union. they are fully engaged in society so they can reach their potential. that we have created an educational system and a skills- based educational system that produces the best workers and the world. -- in the world. >> your turn. questions? are we going to use this microphone? ok. identify yourself, please. >> my name is frank. i am probably the only person in here who has been both a union at stewart before a federal union and management lawyer. i'm currently teaching labor law
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here. i asked us to my class to be here. the hundred-pound elephant in the room is what happens -- employee pre choice act. you spend $44 million to get a lot -- obama elected trade he had supermajorities in both houses. my studies indicate that if it had gotten past, you would probably be at a 14% penetration instead of 7%. how did it happen that your investment was also pushed off into health care as opposed to getting what you -- it will totally turnaround a labor union? >> i have been engaged in this
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fight for a long time. there is no question that if the employee pre choice act had been passed, workers would have organized. they would have been able to do so without harassment, without intimidation, and without being fired. 25,000 or 30,000 workers get fired every year over exercising their rights to join a union. it creates fear. i go back to one thing -- there was -- there was united and fierce opposition from the republican party. the republican party filibustered over 400 built in the senate that the house of representatives passed. he needed 60 votes -- you needed 60 votes. we never had 60 votes in the senate because ted kennedy was sick. we never had 60 on the floor.
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had we had the 60, that would have been done immediately. that is not to excuse the lack of action and a lack of pushing for it because more should be done and we will continue to push that bill. do you know why? the vast majority of americans agree with that. a minority in the senate to can only support the majority will of the people for so long. you are seeing the support for collective bargaining right now growing. 70% right now the american public says people should have the right to collectively bargain. that is their right and they should have it. we will continue to push that and look for vehicles that will give us around a determined minority in the senate and the house -- a majority in the house to prevent that from happening bread what is happening in wisconsin and elsewhere is what happened at the federal level.
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you had which benefactors demanding pay back for their investment in the election. i received this as a warning. -- iac this out as a warning. because of the citizens united bill, millions of dollars were spent by corporations in the last election. that will be chump change in the next election. they will buy the best politicians they can get. they will use those politicians to try to take away rights for us. less taxes for them, less benefits for you. that is the fight that we have, and we will not quit. hopefully, we will get the employee. choice act done. workers deserve fairness and the current labor relations act is unfair to workers and is absolutely broken. [applause]
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>> in brad new immigrant here. i was nationalized last year. i may be having a heavy accent, let me know. somebody was talking about bringing manufacturing base again in this country. i was wondering, what has happened -- what has happened in japan is very unfortunate. i feel very bad about it. because of what has happened in japan, there are plants closing down because they do not have parts coming from japan.
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instead of waiting for japan to get back on its feet? is there some possibility of doing that here? >> there is a lot of that happening out of necessity in a number of meetings with chrysler, a general motors, ford credit they will not produce products unless they find ways that have alternative sources. there are suppliers in the u.s. or scrambling now. everyone is tied into this together and everybody is making a huge effort. the assembly companies go down, the buyer base goes down at. there is this great energy about suppliers and their customers to find alternatives are modes of production. at the same time, we are all very concerned about the people of japan and the devastation of
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the people in japan. we have to build a global middle-class. i do not want to read pitted against workers in japan or brazil or korea. i want our workers to make a decent standard of living so they can bite -- so they can buy electric or hydrogen vehicles, washing machines, build homes. the only way we will do that -- i want to build a better world. that is what we are all about here today. i wanted to add this opportunity -- i am proud of the labor union. -- the labor movement. we do not want immigrant workers pitted against u.s. citizens workers. we want everybody to have human rights and dignity and to build a better society great america
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is a country of immigrants. it is so outrageous to me that the thames by the wealthiest is to pit us against each other rather than building a better world. especially this week as the anniversary of the assassination of martin luther king. he always talked about building a world that was better for everybody. there is a small group that wants a better world only for themselves. the rest of the what america is coming together and saying, this is not right. we will build a better world so that everybody shares in the wealth of this country. >> ok. >> good morning. speaking on behalf of the six or so mediator's setter in the room, this is going to be a mediator question. we heard a lot this morning
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about all the alliances and the mobilization. in the midst of the need to do this, how does the labor movement in vision striking a balance so that another sector that they maintain those foreigners -- partnerships with are those employers who value you and what your partnership in good faith and want to keep employee in your members? >> i will try that. i speak for my union. we have relationships with employers. it really helps if you are not participating in a political cobol and trying to wipe us off the map. it is hard to have a good relationship with people were trying to eliminate your existence. that story is the list, unfortunately. employers that we can have
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relationships with. i think that there is, you know, in my experience, unions are much more willing to be pragmatic about employer relationships than employers. the example goes back to the health-care debate in the clinton years. we tried to get one ceo of the seven, each of whom would of thought and a windfall of hundreds of millions of dollars for the bottom line. it was and their self interest and the corporation. he tried to get one sec to stand with him. in support of something that was directly benefited their shareholders. they were committed to end be the logical based attack.
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that has got worse in a lot of ways in terms of the illogical attack on -- ideological attack on working people and on medicare and don health care for all and pensions. we are delighted to partner with employers when we count in support of -- making sure that education is properly funded so they have decent people in their workforce. if they do, as many companies are doing here in michigan, we should take the tax breaks to corporations and still cut education, it is hard to find ways to do that. we're looking for ways to do that. the apartment with employers -- we have partnered with employers around other issues as well. >> but that just add something
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to that? >> on site. >> this is an important point. workers do not get to bargain over a lot of things that affect our lives. we do not get to bargain over capital investment. we do not to bargain over product design, even though the effect. steelworkers in the 1950's and 1960's and 1970's and 1980's were competing with mills made in the 1890's against companies with mills that had been made in the 1960's and 70's and eddie's. they would have loved to have the ability to negotiate with u.s. steel about whether they need to modernize their mills. we do not get that. bob, back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's, about the product design grid they made what was put in front of them knowing that the product was in -- now they do a
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quality. they do all of that. one of the reason labor law needs to be modernized is so that workers and employers actually can come together and those type of is used to start working in a global economy to face the competition from a global economy. that is another reason why we need to change labor laws so that workers can have some input into their future. you cannot expect us to say, we want you to be invested in this company, but you do not have any say in it. we simply do not. it is time for us to change those laws and perhaps limit -- give us a 21st century change. >> i am so proud of the auto industry. the best quality products today by j.d. power's are the cars
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that we are making in the big three, especially ford, a general motors, and chrysler. the most productive plants, more productive than the nine and a representative plans, are the uaw plants. 20 years ago, our job was to -- the market was captured -- our job was to fight for our fair share of profitability. today, uaw members drive quality and the big three bread with a full-time representatives working with the company every day about quality. it is our representatives and our members that demand will focus on quality. it is exciting today.
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i am excited about organizing opportunities. the want to have the greatest voice? -- do you want to have the greatest voice? that is what we're doing today. >> we have three questions, six minutes. everybody is hungry. >> this is a comment. i feel like i should speak to this point because there's so much misunderstanding. when you have a mature relationship, you find the places that you have connections. i sat down two weeks ago with its burk, with a -- pittsburgh, we see that we have common interests. you have environmentalist and iron workers and we figured out where we can meet. we did the same thing with u.s. steel. we have workers walked out at a
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u.s. steel facility in canada, we understand that we have to rebuild manufacturing. we work with our employers to save jobs. that is what leo gerard does every day. where we share common interests, we will work together. when they try to screw us, we will multiplied. right? [laughter] >> i am a retiree from the uaw. i have been to madison, columbus for rallies. i went to beat john stuart rally for sanity. there was no political statement.
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it was a huge majority of progressives. is there any national rally plans in washington, d.c., in the near future? if not, why not? >> we have a national table right now put together that talks about this and we are doing a follow-up on what happened on april 4. maybe i should give you -- what happened on april 4 because we had people come together from all different walks of life. teachers, firefighters, autoworkers, everybody came together. over 1500 events across the country to talk about the need for collective bargaining. we went as far east as paris, france, and and as far west as
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afghanistan, where they had events. everybody came together for a common message. you have gone too far, let's get back to creating jobs. we are now talking about the very things that you say. where do we go with this? bringing people into washington, d.c., is sometimes very exciting. bring people into columbus, is sometimes very, very exciting. we're working on the various states and having everybody come together. we are one. for the first time, in recent history, the labor union surely is one with the law of our allies. nothing is specifically plant. but i can promise you that they are being fought about and work towards. -- thought about and worked towards. >> i would like to direct this question to my combat tree its
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from michigan first grade when we look at the north american company -- to my compatriots from michigan first. it is not just the united states problem. what should be our approach to our workers across the river into canada, workers in mexico? what should be our relation to the international labor organization, which has programs for the worker, a defense of the worker, for women? what should the relationship be to the international labor organization be? >> it should be one of solidarity and we are working
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with our brothers and sisters in canada, in mexico, and columbia -- colombia, in russia, all run the world. -- all are around the world. we are behind the curve. we are not anywhere near as far as we should be in understanding the global economy. but we're moving up very quickly. we're working together and we will not rest until we have a global middle-class where everybody can make a decent living and by everybody else's products. we do not see that right now. >> i want to give the steel workers credit because they were doing it really aggressively, working with -- supporting strikes in mexico for workers to return to get decent wages.
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the greatest strain in the middle class in the u.s. is wages and benefits of states in law or mexico. it is because there is not a free trade movement in mexico. there is a movement to date to help build free independent unions in a mexico. we have joined with the steelworkers and we have worked during closely with the solidarity center, a very active in mexico right now. we are finding that -- workers are trying to build a trade union movement in mexico. there is progress being made. will join the steelworkers and by our joint pressure, those workers throughout the protectionist union and got an independent union, is a good
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contract, the right to representation. there is progress being made, but your question is a very important question. >> i want to thank you for putting this all together. [applause] >> this year's studentcam competition and students from across the country to consider washington, d.c. through their lens. this is the second prize winner. >> there tends to be a voice as loud and sharp as thunder. i will be shown visions of what the future holds for this land. i tell you that the world will be filled with great buildings
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and factories. people will dig ditches and people will be doing the things and the earth will shake. >> john hendricks accurately prophesied the creation of oak ridge. it changed because of world war two. several plants were constructed for the war effort. ever world war two was over, it was funded by the federal government. >> the big plants cost $478 million. another one cost more, $512 million of those two plants together cost $1.1 billion.
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it cost $60 million bennett today, oak ridge national labs is the biggest latin america. -- is the biggest lab in america. they work on getting uranium. >> a lot of different projects deal with energy technology so we go from very fundamental plans but we would like to get into advanced nuclear concepts we can get electricity and better technology for the electric grid. >> computing is huge. they have a great computing center out there. the neutron source is a great
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user facilitate to look at materials and learn some of the most fundamental things about the things we use every day and how we can improve them. too many to even talk about them. they contain one of the finest atom smashers and the world. >> it is the kind of research that goes on is one-of-a-kind. nobody else has that capability. >> this carries great responsibility. >> we don't get many from the government directly. our staff rights proposals that are grants from the government. >> oro gets substantial money from the government each year. they get over $1 billion from the government each year.
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$143 million is plan for future use is. >> we have been in good shape because the whole nation understands that energy is a big problem. a couple of years ago, when we had expensive gasoline, it was front and center on people's radar screens that we need to do something about getting energy that is less expensive and more abundant. >> instead of depending on corn oil, which depend on america's ingenuity, america's and america's workers. america's workers can lead the world. >> without a doubt about a project that go on how to better our environment. halladay directly impact our daily lives? >> scientist don't just sit in the laboratory and right deep thoughts on papers. they are coming up with new ideas that will translate into
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technologies and into jobs. >> however, there is a different believe. >> it will probably not believe the impact your daily life. it is the kind of research for defense that will not help it but makes something worth defending them. if the center of this city disappeared, the economy would suffer. >> if the laboratory was not there, we have over 4500 staff members there. a good part of them come from oak ridge. in knoxville, a lot of our employes are there. >> everybody would be affected. >> it would be devastating to oak ridge. if you look at our community and
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the anderson county in particular, we're doing pretty good. in turn is a the economy. in surrounding counties, they don't have a lot of industry. industries that have been there in some counties have gone away so unemployment is quite high. oak ridge employs many people from the surrounding counties. as devastated as they are, it would be devastating if we lost our funding. >> that will not be happening anytime soon. what is in store for the future? >> i see this having a big impact on the nation. unlike universities and other research institutes, we tend to work large teams to solve major problems. the energy issue will be with us for a long time. the investments in this country are needed in energy, not only
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to help us have cars that go places and taken to school and soccer practice and things, but more importantly, we have to have electricity that is cheap and available. >> i think we are the hot rock in oak ridge. it generates a lot of jobs and new technologies. they are on the cutting edge of science and technology. >> no country has the national research scientists to compare it with register the most patents. that has been responsible for at least half of our good new jobs. >> they will not be going away anytime soon. it is too important to us for jobs, the economy, and a lively but it provides as well as the important advances to the scientific community. of all the government support, the future looks very bright. >> . go to >org -- go to
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