jim lehrer in his opening remarks talked about what i would maybe put words in his mouth to say, derivative reporting, it's blogging about something -- something that somebody else reported about something that somebody else somewhere else reported. it's not a pulitzer prize winning reporter doing direct journalism. if you've got that kind of quality, we have something linda is talk -- going to talk about later called public inside journalism that draws from expertise of the audience in a database of 100,000 experts around the country and makes journalists more efficient and helps them get their stories to be more accurate. that helps the quality of what we're producing and that improves the brand. but you have to be able to know what to trust. you have to be able to have somebody doing the quality, original journalism rather than everybody blogging about what

everybody else thinks everybody else reported. >> caryn, same question but applied to a media market like washington, which is very rich in news sources. newspapers, very aggressive television operations, one of only i learned from tom rose enstyle, -- rosenstiel, 31 all-news radio stations, which is i believe the number one radio station in the market. so you've got a lot of competition. how do you as a public radio station, what is your role in this media ecosystem. >> well, that number one commercial news talk station that shall remain nameless -- >> would you say it's on top in [laughter] >> we beat them in average quarter hour audience in morning drive in the 18 to 34-year-old audience. >> ok. >> i think the content, the

quality, we have a different mantle. we -- we carry a different mantle than our commercial colleagues do. information dissim -- dissemination is one thing. but knowledge-building is a completely different thing. we are involved in helping you understand from your back yard to the ghrofpblete i tell our staff i want wamu at the kitchen table of -- level of helping people figure things out and how to navigate the world. whether it's the new budget plan or a health plan. we have a great local reporter now doing a five-part series on childhood obesity and when you go to wamu.org there is the story and interactive widgets for, where kids with actually put things on this little virtual plate and see how things add up and what kind of activity they would have to do

to burn that off so community engagement wrl -- really, really is key. twice a mare -- yeah we get, i don't know if only major markets get this, but we get an aggregate report from mediatron. we're at about 770,000 people consuming all our forms on a weekly basis. 165 be p,000 of that is on platforms other than channel 1. it's been a rampup for sfation -- stations to figure out how to be on every emerging platform but you don't know where your next listener is coming from so you have to be ready. >>.d pat? >> and just before we do that, could we be ready have, and

have your hand-held mikes? ok. >> in my previous incarnation at the "washington post" respect for 20 years we created washington post.com back in the mid-1990's and i see a lot of fellow "post" alumni here in the audience here. but the initiative here, the mission, was to create some world-class journalism that people around the world could actually enjoy through this new, then-new platform called the internet. we now have i think 12 or 13 million regular viewers of washingtonpost.com, so exponentially more people are reading "washington post" journalism today than ever before. the same thing can happen with public broadcasting, public television, public radio because of this trust factor we've been talking about and there is this flight to quality that i think is going to be

very useful to us as time goes on. "the washington post" has not sent a dime outside the washington area to promote washingtonpost.com. these millions of people have come from around the country and the world because of their faith in this franchise. the same thing can happen, i think will happen across a lot of platforms that are going to be available to us in this new century for the public broadcasting people who are at the nabt and local level. >> great. we'll be hearing a lot more about these digital platforms and new experiments and the national-local partnership is one that i'm particularly interested in. so now we're ready for some questions. when the mike reaches you, please identify yourself and -- there is a question there.

>> hello. i'm lieu ellen -- lewellen king, host of white house chronicles and i'm one of the tired old ones of british journalism so loved by public broadcasting. [laughter] i just wanted to thank the organizers for bringing together the high breeferts -- priests of public broadcasting the because if you work adds i do in independent television we don't, we get no money, we don't even get a postcard and we talk among each other as to why we don't exist. we can watch our programs on various public radio stations but we get no recognition from the larger public television and we're never asked for any input, which seems quite

extraordinary. we actually pay to get on the satellite. so our situation is the orfans -- orphans of public television and i wonder why we are treat as orphans if our programming is sufficiently valuable to be aired? thank you. >> ok. please add lewellen to your christmas card list. >> i will. you'll be on my christmas list. the thing people don't understand about pbs is we're not a network. we're the network model sort of upside down in that the decisions made in public broadcasting are made at the local level. we do aggregate a schedule and distribute it. we do the things at scale, we put together programs, maintain the satellite connection, we have done a significant amount of work on pbs.org but there is

a significant amount've programming that goes directly to the stations, that the stations purchase, and that is the situation with your programming, and that enables stations to really think about what will work for them in their local market and what is of interest to them. we have limited funds and so we put our resources at pbs around a smaller amount of programming that we distribute out to all the stations. then if you travel from market to markest you see that when you visit a public television station you visit a public television station -- they look very detective -- different and i think as i mentioned earlier part of the strength of what makes us so different and unique is that we are the ultimate local organization. >> ok. next question. we have a hand here. >> ok.

thank you. coming from the country where the public broadcasting is doing a major role in journalism, i'm kind of surprised to see all this conversation that npr and pbs regardless of the fact that they're doing a great job -- my question is, is there any way that the pbs and npr could combine together and build a new, stronger public broadcasting in this country? that's my dream. >> what a good question. the question is, can, why do we have a separate public radio and public television system and why can't they, why can't we all get along? >> we get along wonderfully. we do get along.

>> i would say that they're very different business models one from another and the reasons for them being separate are historical but we are more and more collaborating on projects and combining forces and doing some really exciting things, and i anticipate that that will continue. i think combining the two organizations as businesses is hugely, would be hugely complicated. i don't know that it would necessarily create a stronger combined organization, but i do know that we are, you know, we are really interested in working together to best serve our public. >> we've done a lot, particularly over the last few years, together, both in areas that you don't see -- we work together, for example, on corporate underwriting and trying to bring those resources in -- so on the business side we're working together. we have been working together on some of the architecture for

the work that we're doing online. but more apparent to the viewer is the work that we have been engaged in in journalism. and news hour and npr have come together on frodges, frontline and npr have come together on projects, actually with other organizations like pro publica. so npr has very deep reporting capabilities that we do not have on the public television side and will never have on the public television side. it makes sno sense for us to try to construct a system like that. it makes more expense -- sense more -- for us to try to work together and leverage the assets of both organizations. on lipe is where everything comes together and where a lot of partnerships have taken place. but again, the way that we're a little different than nhk, and i want to commend nhk for doing

such extraordinary coverage not only in japan but to the rest of the world over what has happened in your country over the last month, the journalism from nhk makes us all proud to be a partner of yours in the whole public media world. i think that we're also doing partnerships with you. i think there is lots of really great opportunities. frontline did a piece about a month ago called postmortem on the coroner/medical examiner system in this country and the challenges of it. it's not "c.s.i.". and the reporting that was done between frontline, npr and pro publica resulted in a week of broadcasting, a very powerful broadcast event as well as a week of material available online. so i think those kind of partnerships are what we are going to be doing together.

it's in coincidence that between public radio and public television this year we have taker -- taken more than a third of all the peabodies. >> this will be our last comment. >> it might be a lot like trying to merge nhk and the bbc. you think about that. [laughter] but the, i think the thick that i'm -- thing that i'm concerned about is the challenges that have come up this year gib us a way to really think about how we're structured, why we're funding what we're funding and look at what could public broadcast n -- broadcasting be? you know, public broadcasting is going to be probably the last person standing at some point in terms of journalism. newspapers are, and i love newspapers, i'm carrying one with me, but they're weakening and they may or may not make it through the digital transition.

some of them may. lots of them may not. radio, television, cable increasingly polarized. you make much more money being polarized than you do any other way. and if that's what's informing our country, then who is going to provide the accurate information on everything from health care to social security to wars in the middle east, etc.? and it leaves us. we are in some ways, fortunately here but nowhere near as well developed as we need to be to do it. what you work with at nhk is unbelievable in terms of what we work with here in the united states. somebody has to say how important is it this? and when we're cutting things in the budget the way we're cutting them in the united states, to think about does it make sense to cut public

broadcasting's $450 million in order to cut back on the knowledge that the people need to make the decisions on what the government should be cutting or what the government should be funding, cutting the voice of america, $8 million and cutting out the mandarin service which the chinese have now said maybe we can have a pledge week and we'll pay pour it, it's so important to us, but we need to look at what is the role going to be? because i don't see any other alternative other than the journalism of public broadcasting and maybe a few of the strongest newspapers. and it's not $450 million and i'm probably the only one in this environment that's saying we should be talking about tripling or quadrupling that amount of money so that the issues that the congress is trying to cope with are understood by the people that are going to have to vote and decides that. it's foolish.

it's pound foolish to, not to do that. >> ok. i think with that we will have to bring this discussion to an end. thank you so much to our wonderful panel for being here today and we will be back in let's say 10 minutes to continue the discussion on digital platforms. thank you. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] . >> "road to the white house" coverage coming up tonight. you will hear from rick santorum, tim pawlenty, and others at a forum hosted by the americans for prosperity

foundation live from manchester, new hampshire, live at 8:00 on c-span, c-span radio and c-span.org. earlier today president obama declared alabama a federal disaster area in the wake of the tornadoes there. the president and the first lady toured st. louis to see the damage firsthand. he later spoke with reporters joined by the mayor of st. louis and the governor of alabama. >> well, michelle and i want to express first of owl our deepest condolences so not just the city of tuscaloosa but the state of alabama and all the other states that have been affected by this unbelievable storm. we just took a tour, and i've got to say i've never seen devastation like this. it is heartbreaking. we were just talking to some residents here who were lucky enough to escape alive but have

lost everything. they mention that'd their neighbors had lost two of their grandchildren in the process. what you're seeing here is the consequence of just a few minutes of this extraordinarily powerful storm sweeping through this community. and as the governor was mentioning, tuscaloosa typically gets a tornado during the season, but this is something that i don't think anybody's seen before. in addition to keeping all the families who have is been affected in our thoughts and prayers, obviously our biggest priority now is to help this community recover. i want to thank the mayor for his extraordinary leadership. chief burgess i know is having to deal with a lot of difficulties. one of the challenges that the mayor was explaining is that the assets of the city, a fire

station that we passed on the way in, police resources, emergency resources, those two have been affected. fortunately the governor has done an extraordinary job with his team in making sure that the resources of the state are mobilized and that -- have been brought in here. i'm very pleased that we've got a fema director in craig fugitive eat who is -- fugate who is as experienced as anybody in responding to disasters even of this magnitude and we've already provided the disaster designations. we've already provided the disaster designations that are rider -- required to make sure that the maximum federal help comes here as quickly as possible. craig is working with the teams on the ground to make sure that we are seamlessly coordinating between the state, local, and

federal governments and i want to just make a community to the -- commitment to the communities here that we are going to do everything we can to help these communities rebuild. we can't bring those who have been lost back. you know, they're alongside god at this point. we can help maybe a little bit with the families dealing with the grief of having a loved one lost. but the property damage which is obviously extensive, that's something that we can do something about. and so we're going to do everything we can to partner it -- with you, mr. mayor, with you, governor -- the governor is pointing out that this community was hit as bad as anyplace but there are communities all across alabama and all across this region that have been affected, and we're going to be making that same commitment to make sure that we're doing whatever we can to make sure that people are ok.

that's a wasp. >> it's not you. >> stand stilt >> he got him away. >> there you go. >> where's secret service when you need them? [laughter] finally, let me just say this. we were talking to three young people over there, college students at the university of alabama, who are volunteering to help clean up. one of the young ladies there, she actually lived in this apartment. she wasn't here at the time the storm happened. what you're struck by is people's resilience and the way that the community has come together and obviously that's a testimony to the leadership of the governor and mayor but it's also inherent as part of the american spirit. we go through hard times, but no matter how hard we may be tested we maintain our faith

and we look to each other to make sure that we're support fing each other and helping each other and i'm sure that that spirit is going to continue until this city is all the way back. so mr. mayor, he was pointing out that there's a lot of national media down here now and the mayor expressed the concern that perhaps, you know, the media will move on in a day or a week or a month and that folks will forget what's happened here and i want to assure him that the american people all across the country are with him and his community and we're going to make sure that you're not forgotten and that we do everything we can to make sure we've rebuilt. so with that, governor, would you like to say a few words? >> i would. mr. president, i would like to personally thank you and mrs. obama for coming and visiting

alabama. and because, you know, as you fly over there and i did yesterday, as you fly over from the air it does not do it justice until you are here on ground. i just want you to know how much we appreciate that. ske -- we asked for, we mobilized the state, we declared a state of emergency early on even before the first tornadoes hit. and then we mobilized our national guard the first day. we then asked the president for aid and we asked him to expedite that and they have done that and i just want you to know how much we appreciate that, mr. president, because all these people appreciate that so much. we have eight counties across the state that have been hit by major tornadoes. this probably is the worst one but we have others, as you go across the state, you see the same evidence of tornadoes all across state. so we have people who are hurting. we have 210 confirmed deaths

alabama. we have 1,700 injured. we have a number of people missing at the present time. we're going to continue to work in a rescue-type missouri -- mode but we're -- we're now more in a recovery type mode, thank you, president -- if you will keep him off me -- >> i'm going to keep my eye on him. >> thank you. yes, sir. let me say i am so proud of our first responders in this state. they have done an outstanding job. our mayors, county commissioners, our police, our firemen they have all just done such a fantastic job. our e.m.a. people. we have a great team. they have all worked together and now we have the federal government helping us. that just shows when locals and state and federal government works together, we can get things accomplished and that's what we're going to do. so president -- mr. president, welcome to alabama but not

under these circumstances. we want you to come back and maybe go to a football game over here at a later date when things are better. but thank you for your help. >> i will gladly come back the mr. mayor, why don't you say a few words? >> mr. president, governor, thank you for cupping today. the last hours have been the most trying time in alabama's history but since this tragedy began i've been using romans 12:12, "rejoice in our confident hope." today, mr. president, your visit here has brought a kfed -- confident hope to this community and in the days and weeks to come we are going to be a story you can be very proud of. thank you for coming today. >> well, thank you for your leadership. two last points i want to make. we've got our congressional delegation here and i am

absolutely cost -- confident that they will make sure the resources are available to help rebuild. to all the local officials here, i know they've been personally affected but i know they're going to provide the leadership in the community, working with the governor and mayor to do what is needed. and finally i think the mayor said something very profound as we were drike over here. he said what's amazing is when something like this happens, folks forget all their petty differences. you know, politics, differences of religion or race, all that fades away when we are confronted with the awesome power of nature, and we're reminded that all we have is each other, and so hopefully that spirit continues. and grows. if nothing else comes out of this tragedy, let's hope that that is one thing that comes out. so thank you very much, everybody.

[captioning performed by national captioning institute] . [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] . >> the new hampshire 2012 primary is less than a year away and tonight several candidates gather to speak at a summit on federal spending and job creation. the event, mosted -- hosted by americans for prosperity foundation, is live at 8:00 eastern here on c-span. ahead of the white house correspondents dinner earlier today, actor tim daly of "private practice" and rosario dawson of "men in black" took part in a discussion on celebrity activism hosted by pollityico. it's a little more than an hour the >> i'd like to welcome our twitter audience.

tim daly of the creative coalition, thank you for being with us. is this something gsh what's something the government some do more of or less of? >> well, that's a pretty big question. let me narrow that question and sort of focus on what i do with the creative coalition. we are primarily an organization that protects, defends, and advocates for the arts in the united states, and, you know, we're in this climate of cutting budgets on everything and so one of the things that we try to do is to get the government to support and spend more money on the national endowment for the arts which if you adjust for inflation is now about $100 million behind what was -- it was 20 years ago. the thing about cutting is that, well, for instance, if you own five stocks, four are losing i lot of money and one is making money, you shouldn't sell all of them. you sell the ones that are

losing money. national broadcasting is a very good investment for the government. so it's our mission to convince the government to not only maintain the federal funding but hopefully increase it, which is not going to happen in this particular climate, we're not, you know, we don't live in a fantasy world. that being said, the other thing that we want to do is to change the narrative and the dialogue about the arts in this country because there's a common misperception that people have that they're not involved in the arts. when you say the arts they think of some opera gala in new york city whereas what we're trying to remind people of is it's your kid's school play, the choir you sing in at church, playing guitar in your basement. people are involved in the arts in this country. everywhere you look, the arts are represented.

the design of your tie. the architecture in this room. >> patrick's shoes -- >> yeah. his socks especially. [laughter] >> so, you know, and people forget that it's a part of our lives. i mean our national anthem is a song. you know. there's a reason that it's a song, because the arts inspire us. and the other thing about them is that, you know, something that not a lot of politicians even know, entertainment is the sing -- second largest export in the united states. .

but >> it is like a stamp of approval. what it says is that this symphony orchestra or a theater got some seed money from the government. it allows private industry individuals to pour money into it. that is where the funding comes from.

it opens the door to other funding. >> there will be mostly cutting. what can you say to republicans that will resonate? >> i can say things like children that said the a rigorous curriculum. there is a lot of research that supports that. one of the things that hopefully people know about the federal government is that it has a represented -- a responsibility to protect our culture. there is all this beautiful

architecture. it is a perfect meeting of science, technology, and artistry. i would hope that he would think a good investment -- look, if you take seven-one odds to vegas, i think he would take that. >> i joked with the. you are a seasoned veteran. this is your fifth white house course. we do some work. everybody go easy on him. be a little bit scared. would you ever consider this? he should be more effective in your current role. that may seem counterintuitive

to a lot of people. >> that is a big -- fill cycle discussion about democracy. it is hard to move the needle. part of what we do is try to keep the needle from going down. it is hard to get things passed. it is hard to change people's minds. the crack open my closet. so much crap pours out. >> people thought they would get more.

it will be hard to change the political culture. if your team verses' my team. he was not successful. they are not accepted. it is rough out there.

i have a great deal of empathy for people in congress who have to start raising money. and ordered to do that they have to take these positions and do stuff that maybe they would not do if they knew there would only be around for a couple of years. >> we are following on that. he was personally beloved by both parties. is there and help that someone might come in? >> people are pretty bummed right now.

i saw obama and the other candidates did the convention cycle. obama i can go totally jfk. he can be really inspirational. if i were to get him any advice is to be to go back. that guy can motivate people. he can get them thinking about larger things like not thinking about yourself. if he can do that again, it might take a chance to change this town. >> 2012 is already engaged. what is the vacation -- is the location that you like to see done? >> as i am here to talk about

the arts, this is the thing. i like to see that on play with the main course. they shall not be treated like a luxury item. i would like him to talk about the art psst as the vital part of the culture that they are. >> you got your information and about public policy. how would you keep up? >> i read all of them.

>> i read the new york times. i browse the web. >> i go to the huntington -- huffington post and all of that. >> there is the reputation. they have tried to encourage this. it comes out of the closet.

hollywood is not one single thing. their talk about the republican party. are there a lot of them? >> there are a lot. it is called show business. people like me are there. the other part is the business part. traditionally businesses have been more conservative. there are certainly huge conservative constituencies. i thought the reputation of this liberal bashing, the entertainers get more. it is funny.

when a big movie star or a tv star gets in trouble with drugs are you have a scandal, it is plastered all over the place. the ratio of insanity is about the same every place. it gets more impressed. >> they have a question. you are finding the microphone.

>> i have a new definition of a white house correspondent. >> that makes sense to me. >> it sure does. that is what it is to me. it i hope to see somebody that i respect better themselves. >> give it time. >> what brings you down? the trade a coalition -- the creative coalition does this.

it is fun. it is great to see a president be so funny. he is a hard act to follow. >> is there something you'd like to meet this weekend? >> i will go back and say the president. i met him briefly and was unbelievably impressed by him. he is one of these guys, i was ushered in this room with 300 people. >> this is about him. what do you want from that?

>> i've learned how really dysfunctional the media is. when capitalism certain we build its way, everything changed. when the news became not about public service and public information about rating , things went haywire. there is this race to put out information whether it is true or not. it is difficult to find the

truth in this barrages stuff that comes at us. >> when you talk about show business, there is also a lot of nonprofit organizations. are there more ways to get information? >> that is true. when the internet for started to take cold, look at this story. the security to reporters how to read.

>> as a consumer advocate, what do you recommend to people? there is no one place with the truth can always be counted on. >> you do not have to spend your time doing this. do you think he had made any dent in the last three or five years?

do you see lights in your eyes when you are talking to them? >> it comes in varying degrees. another one of the things that is a disconnect from the perception of artist and the reality is that sometimes when you talk about the arts of the entertainment business, there is agency of people to go to the supermarket tabloid and see people melting down. this is not the core of what the community is. most of us are from middle class families. we were not born into an entertainment class. we work very hard. we have been successful. making a financial argument is

very good for republicans. for instance, the television show i do, which is not "wings" -- that was forever ago. it is "private practice." [laughter] any given week there is about 400 people. they talk about small businesses. that seems to be a mantra of all politicians now. people say, why should i give tom cruise tax breaks? it is not tom cruise. it is the restaurants in the cab drivers. -- and the cab drivers. do not take away their regional theater. that means their hotels and

restaurants are not billed. it is the lifeblood of a lot of communities. if you can make that case to people who are fiscally conservative, i think it changes their perspective. people really benefit. >> you are about to start filming the fifth season of "private practice." what is it about that show that has caused it to have this longevity that causes people to relate to it? >> one of the things about it that makes it particularly successful is that the men on of show are women's fantasy the way men should be. [laughter]

women love seamen and behaving exactly like that. we have a large female following. i would say to the men here that if your wife wants you to watch "private practice" you are entitled to sex. i insist upon it. [laughter] >> thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. [applause] thank you very much. >> joining us is rowe sarsario dawson.

>> thank you very much. >> you both have a bunch of set up. shh she is the founding executive director -- rosario dawson is the head of it. you are both in town. we have talked about registrating more boaters than ever. how would you do that? >> we are gearing up with a lot of different things. we have been able to build up a momentum. we are shutting down in losing funding.

we are at a point right now where we are actually expanding. we have just been able to get to this point where we are not just using technology. we after have just expanded our grass-roots organization. there are much more people on the ground volunteering. it is good to give it that much more surface area. the people that we worked with with.e have collaboratived to their 87 deejays -- we have 87 deejays across the nation, it too. >> [unintelligible]

this is what we have been doing for the last six years. >> let me speak about that. a lot of us to know about what the democrat said. talk to us a little bit about how the latino community is represented in the united states and also how those demographics will play out going forward. >> this is the thing that is incredible. you have to very much consider the latin vote. they were shooting a psa

yesterday's and how every day 18 service members kill themselves. that is insane. you are really showing something critical here with the population. 98% go to college. there is a one is a term to drop out rate. that is what they are communicating. they are not thinking of them as this separate voting bloc. this was our last campaign. this is the response. this was an old world -- world

war ii slogan. >> it is not the same coming in 2012 because of the demographics. all seven texas is in play. you have four different congressional districts. >> there is the influx of this. when you start talking about what they can be doing, they are doing it in english. do it in english. there are a lot of people on the ground right now that are hurting.

we have fourth generation of folks from latino backgrounds in colorado being harvested. we need to have this conversation with more people. >> you think the rhetoric is there? it has to cool off now. >> it called off in washington, d.c. but not in the states. they are about to sign this very simply. >> there are 22 states trying to do what arizona did. they stopped it from being enacted. >> there is the suggestion that that they are not paying enough attention.

it was help the tones. perhaps they should talk about it more? >> what is happening right now is the rhetoric. this is that the state and local level. all of a sudden, they are going through. they question whether not that person is american. they have basically talked about the bigger issue. there are big problems we need to stop as a country. it is foreign to us. >> one of the most exciting things you are doing is you are visit to the white house. >> where vice by the president

to come and speak about this. there is an informal conversation. it is very fascinating. they meet president barack obama. and does been an interesting journey. we were talking about the different. we were talking about that yesterday. now the numbers are dropping. the perception comes up and down. this of really exciting. we have spent a lot of years trying to get people to listen to these issues we have talked

about. we have to pay attention to it. in america, we have to address it. they are dropping this rate. we are not going to be in a place or realigned to be globally competitive. these are american issues. we are looking at the demographics of america. there are going to be prepared to run this country. this is the issue. latinos in this country represents $1 trillion worth their revenue. this our largest emerging market. they will possibly takeover

america and our shyness. we have people right here who are excited about the american dream. they have to get jobs. they have to get an education for their kids. they really want to be here. they want to make this country great. >> was the president like? >> we laughing. he just kind of walked in. there are a bunch of latinos and the groo -- in the room. >> it is a very unusual conversation. it allowed for an honest dialogue. they are like you want to talk? ok.

he understands the larger picture. they are ok with that. they have to make hard decisions. a very rarely do you walk into a room were a politician does that. >> he kept talking so much fear .n and we understand the aladdin and vote. 1rin corw.

-- latin vote. these numbers are real. they are important. there will be deciding this. >> they are aware of the republicans that were not willing to act on this. >> you are talking to pat buchanan. >> ok. >> he said i am about to write a book. >> it is very interesting.

they will come. these a the kind of questions we want to ask. i'm curious how looks behind closed doors with lawmakers. barack obama is there all the time. self assessed the influence of having a celebrity and actor. >> what we discovered is that we are very intimately involved. it motivates them. she understand the mechanics of it. she is able to translate it to politicians. we actually talked to people in colorado or hello. that changes the equation.

>> how can i talk about this? how can i talk about this in a different way? we were the only ones in the room. this makes a palpable difference. >> i got into use reusable -- then to use reusable bags. i europe and its collapse on the lower east side. the degree up in a flat on the

lower east side. -- i grew up in a flat on the lower east side. i show up these meetings. sometimes i get the opportunity to walk in because i'm a celebrity. sometimes i walk up and they go she is an actress-vist. [laughter] >> you have met president obama. who else would you like to meet? >> i have never met joe biden. >> beckham probably be arranged. probably be arranged. i am on the board for an anti pilots' organization. -- anti-violence organization.

they were passing another reason legislation. >> you live here. i would love to read and meet -- re-meet the first lady. >> we had an interview in today's paper with a set myers. i asked him his impression. he said the one thing he thought felt average americans belt was an incestuous relationship between politicians and journalists. they come together to schmooze and that americans find that a

little disconcerting. do you agree or disagree? >> sure. president obama is here. the trickle-down effect will take to three years. it is great that people are paying attention to that fact. we are not changing everyone many had the president come in

-- when you have the president, and. you have a lot of these same players. it is the same way hollywood is. it will take a lot more than just one phocion -- ocean. it would be wonderful if we could solve all our problems with one vote every four years. it is not like that. this is starting to represent a little more of what it looks like. >> i think there is a microphone around here. do not be shy.

the jump in. et at rosariodawson. how is social media increasing and making your job easier? >> it is easier. in 2006, we did both to registration. -- voter registration. we were able to have an immediate response to what was going on in the ground. >> we have been able to expand so it is not just the latino issues. we also have someone that the something by another artist and want to volunteer. that is the translation. we had a young lady that found

out about this, contacted our office and said that i can really do the senses. -- census. she was 17. someone that is the central valley. there were able to see the impact the celebrities were doing. >> there is also thought that there is a downside. how does that play into a lot of the issues and the work that you do? one person spreading a very bad rumor? >> they stop of the conversations. you can spend all day doing

that then following up on the issue properly. you have to diversify that. it is ok. we are educating each other. >> it did not matter if what you are reporting was true or not. there is nothing to hold to accountable. it is affecting the decisions. i think this is we have to have a serious conversation about media. >> go ahead.

>> you go first. thank you for coming today. >> it is realistic. it is tough to say legislation being pushed forward in the next few years. who do you worry the most going up against obama that would push back more and more in regard to going forward if they were collected? >> that will be really interesting. 11 people had it right now. it might change. there may be anyone who is

trying to ostracize its. it is not just the republicans. there were four democrats that went with it. we start looking at examples. he is a republican. we have that many people and our community. we need to work. we will provide them working permits but they pledged to learn english. that is sensible. they are free to stand -- there is a girl who is 17 years old. she and her mom called the cops because of domestic violence. nasa is facing deportation. she is facing

deportation. >> they are getting more tax breaks to the rich. bank of america paid nothing in corporate income taxes last year. now of the budget once get large tax cuts do income learners. do you think they could use another tax cut? >> no. >> what do you recommend to young people, their first job, how does someone become you? >> hijab is a curious and fall your passion. have to ask questions of yourself and try things.

you are not always going to win our find it the exact right path. if you are going to fail, feel ethically. but yourself out there. -- if you are going to fail, ethicalpically. put yourself out there. [applause] >> thank you so much for coming in. your new restaurant is being built. >> we are right around the

corner. we had a couple of issues with the liquor license. peteat is an artisan alal said? what we work with the products that we have. it is not a classic. it has to keep changing and evolving every day. ?o you like poppet john's pizza >> not in my book. we are not making the classic piece the -- pizza. there different types a crest spirit -- of crust.

>> tell me about your take on what the white house is doing. >> obama has had a huge push. they are permitting all those kind of things. they help educate parents and teachers about the right things are. it does not the easiest to go to the garden and cook some food. they were nice and quick and easy. it is about teaching everyone what is going on. we are working with the farmers. the more that we buy from the

farmers, the better the price will become. it is cheaper to buy a pre made burger or a sandwich than it is to buy something that is farmed locally and fresh. these are things we have to work with. >> there are subsidies and policy decisions. >> 100%. there is an organic type of animal that is running around locally. it becomes more expensive for the farmers. that is the thing about working with this. they are getting on board.

you can get stuff from the grocery stores. >> you are not just opening a restaurant, you live there as well. seen it the culinary tea change there? >> it is something i came to before. >> i have lived all over the east coast traveling and cooking. it has been a growing city. when i moved down here, it was a bit intimidating. i moved to arlington. you realize that people do live in the city. there are more condos growing. there are a lot more

restaurants. for me the scene has been growing huge. there are more places to go every day. >> how much of that scene the obama is go out more. there is a narrative that the obama as have boosted the scene. is it true that there'll be a definitive cause and effect? have they had a positive thing? >> that could for them multiple times. to know that the president's is going to the restaurants to eat, it shows something positive. i think it says helps cells.

it disposed of politics. this is who we are. getting involved is the biggest thing. they are getting involved with schools. it is been a huge part of everything. i'm one of the biggest fans. >> year were both 21 -- you had 21 courses? >> he is pretty much booked a year out. it was phenomenal. it was course after course after course with colors and flavors. it was an amazing deal. >> tell us about one of the districts. >> i liked how he started off.

he had but with nitrogen that was smokey and frozen. he had spoken with the cocktails. he makes pasta out to be vegetables. they had fresh lamb pastas. >> if anyone has questions, we will bring you in. >> and carries to get your thoughts. there is a thought that there is a policy side. animals require a lot more resources and gas. folks have argued that

greenhouse gases will pick up by 20%. what is your take on this? is this a strategy you would indoors? >> i do. i have been a vegetarian for half of my life. the hefty protein to keep your help up. i do not eat red meat much. i eat it about once a look weak. it is usually chicken or fish. i recommend staying away from meat as much as possible. obviously, i love it. i will always have it. my focus is not even saying away from once a week. it is more of getting the best product you can, something raise

locally. >> making sure they are feeding them correctly and not injecting them. these things that kind of helped also. you do not need to eat meat every day. i do not think everyone does. >> i was really rooting for you on all stars. since you have lived in such major cities, have you been made aware about the availability of fresh ingredients and restaurants? >> it kind of compete with everyone out there. new york has their own entity.

i think there are bonds that come out here. they are bringing it out. they have a lot longer season than we do. it is a little bit different. i think we push it. i think we can market as abundant as here. it is great to go. whenever i go, that always made the chef. everyone is getting involved in it. a degree have a lot of great sources. are you worried about the safety of the food supply with their oceans being so polluted and the high level of mercury? and pesticides and antibiotics?

i know locally grown stuff this super fabulous. most civil cannot afford that or are not aware of that. do you worry about that are you active in fda safety and all of that? is it not really a big concern? >> it is a big concern it is true. all the products are going into the air. eaton searching really eating certain farmer is products. maybe 10% of air the of my menu is not east coast. it is domestic. it is giving back. it is working with the community. it is working to stay on top of it. we need support from everyone

around us. the majority of the chefs to do it. it is trying to teach everyone out there about how to get the right food and products. >> [inaudible] >> i agree 100%. the prices higher. it is more expensive. it takes time. it has come down a lot. as the three more small markets, you kind of push alps some of the smaller area -- you kind of push out some of the smaller areas. it is helping everyone around us.

some of the power spots acrylic and a the answer. -- power spots, i feel like i know the answer. is it the quality of boot or a place to use -- quality of food or a place to use your expense account? >> there are different types of powerhouses. some are not as highly respected. the go to the palms, if you go to a state. are they using local projects? probably not. i've never eaten there before. and did not have any answers to them. i think more of places like

working with wolfgang puck for working with the farms in getting in there. his farm connections are amazing. those are the more power house i suggest. >> we believe this program. he confided online at c- span.org -- i will take you live c-span.org. it is hosted by the state chapter of the americans for >> we need to begin the program immediately. i am going to give you the

ground rules for the next portion of this discussion. as you all well aware, there are five candidates or potential candidates that will be addressing the crowd. the ground rules will be as follows -- each candidate will have the opportunity to speak for as long as eight minutes to make opening remarks. there is a lighting system on the states. green light means they are within their time. i have to ask you to take your seats. let me go to the ground rules one more time. each candidate will come to the podium -- podium individually. there will be given eight

minutes to make opening remarks. to my left is a lighting system -- a yellow, green, and red light. which one minute left on their time, a yellow light will come on. when there is no time left, a red light will come on. i will ask each candidate to stick to their time. candidates will be -- questions will be directed to the candidates. they will have as long as seven minutes to answer those questions. each candidate will be asked to respond to it least two questions. -- to respond to at least two questions. it is my closet -- pleasure to begin the second portion of our program. in order to begin this program, you must be seated or take your conversations outside the room. i respectfully ask you to have a seat so we can begin our presentation. thank you.

it is now my pleasure to introduce an individual who will serve as our moderator this evening. this individual served as the president of american for prosperity foundation in washington, d.c. he is the reason our organization has been as successful as it has been. in the last presidential campaign, president barack obama mentioned americans with prosperity -- americans for prosperity. that tells you we are doing something right. [applause] it is under the leadership of tim phillips that we have received over 35 state chapters for the americans for prosperity foundation. he oversees all of the grass- roots work that we do, the advocacy campaigns that americans for prosperity does it, and the educational work

that we continue to do. it is my pleasure to introduce the president of americans for prosperity foundation, tim phillips. ♪ beautiful day ♪ >> this evening. thank you for that kind introduction and for the great work you are doing leading our americans for prosperity chapter here in new hampshire. in states across the country, leaders like corey are leading our chapters and 1.8 million grassroots activists. our goal is simple -- to restore economic prosperity to this great nation of ours through limited government, more economic freedom, and less

government spending and regulation. [applause] it is a real honor to be with you. i know that you are a quiet, retiring guy. i know it is tough to come out of your shell, but thank you. [applause] one thing about me you probably have not noticed, i grew up in upstate south carolina. there is an overflow room with an interpreter if you need it. [laughter] it is great to see my home center, jim demint -- senator, jim demint. [applause] tonight we gather for a summit focused on government spending, a deficit, that, and the negative impact they are having on job creation and our

prosperity. we are glad to have five potential candidates for the republican nomination for president with us. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] there are a lot of places you could be this evening, although i hear new hampshire is popular this time of year. thank you for sharing this evening with us. our goal this evening is pretty simple. it is to ask you to detail your stance on economic issues and the policies he will pursue if you are fortunate enough to move forward to the next level. you may notice, and i know you are stunned to hear this, president obama is not with us this evening. [applause] [laughter] that may be surprising to some didn't how often the president, for some reason, mentioned americans for prosperity last fall.

we thought for sure he would be -- he would want to come out. mr. president know this -- you are welcome to explain your economic policies to our audience is any time. we will give you an open microphone to explain yourself. right? [applause] the truth is we have seen clearly with the -- where the current administration stands and what they had done. simply put, when it comes to budget deficits and debt, president obama's policies are literally bankrupting america. there is no doubt about that. president obama has increased discretionary spending during his first two years by 25%. if you include the failed stimulus that was $814 billion more, it is a 65% increase in discretionary spending. i just finished reading a

brilliant book called "rock debut with destiny." it is an account of the 1980 presidential race, one that elected -- elected a man named ronald wilson reagan. [applause] ronald reagan and president locked in ae tense struggle. the budget deficit numbers for that year came out in the fall. it was a shock to the american political system to hear the amount. does anyone want to know what that amount was for the budget deficit in 1980? $74 billion. that number shot the american establishment and americans. it sounds almost like today, does it not? we use other words now, but the truth is this president will

have three straight $1 trillion plus budget deficits. the health care policies he has put forward will dry up health care costs for americans while increasing taxes and spending trillions more in the years to come. meanwhile, on his watch, medicare has slipped further down the road towards fiscal failure. i do not know about you -- maybe we need to have a show of hands -- but i think it is the height of hypocrisy for this president to call paul ryan and house republicans "irresponsible" for trying to do something about the budget deficit. do you agree with that? [applause] the format for this evening is pretty straightforward. we will ask our five participants to stick to it.

presidential leadership is sometimes about following rules. if we want to get everyone in, we need to do that and still have a couple of questions free. we'll ask them to stick to 8 minutes with remarks on revitalizing the economy, spending, budget deficit, job creation. i am a liberal arts major from virginia tech, so we have a high-tech system here. you have a yellow flashing light that means "cautioned." it is working. at time 48 speaker, it will go read. we will then have two questions on the same economic topic for each and that will be it for the evening. thank you for joining us. we have the first speaker this evening, and that is governor 10 pawlenty -- tim pawlenty from

minnesota. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. or as president obama would say, you are welcome. [applause] had had enough of $4 a gallon of gas? have you had enough of unemployment? had you had enough of the federal government that is out of control? have that you had enough of barack obama? yes. it may, too. -- me, too. you are role modeling a service of faith, family, and persistence to this state and the cause of freedom. it is a clarion call for new hampshire and all of america and we owe you a debt of gratitude. [applause] senator dement, thank you for

your inspiring leadership. you are a clear voice for common sense. there's not much of that in washington. thank you for coming tonight. we appreciate that as well. [applause] i am delighted to be here with the other potential candidates for 2012 -- michelle bachmann, my good friend mitt romney, herman cain, rick santorum, and the others. these are all wonderful people. we are on the same team because we have the same goal -- taking back this country and restoring america to its greatness again. [applause] the question before us is about jobs, the economy, and government spending. to answer that question we should talk to the people who provide the jobs in this country. when you do, they give you a clear answer all day every day. it is not that complicated. it is at this -- get the

government off my back. [applause] it varies a little bit by industry, business, employer, or sector, but some are barry concerned about taxes being too high. others are concerned about regulation, the time, expense, and the late. they are worried about energy costs that are skyrocketing. others are worried about workers,, unemployment,, or unfair -- or opt -- workers comp, unemployment comp, or unfair practices. somebody who would take a risk, start something, grow something, add employees, buy equipment, conduct research -- all the things that takes to keep the economy going, every

time the government takes over, they not only grow government and spend more of your money, but they do something else that is equally corrosive. they discouraged the american spirit. underneath this notion of america's greatness and america's prosperity is what makes us great is we are free. it is fundamentally different from other countries all around the world and throughout time. we are not the greatest nation in the world has known because we had the most people. we do not. we need to be more competitive with our cost, but we are not the cheapest place in the world. we're the greatest nation in the world has ever known because we are the freest nation in the world. [applause] as government pushes in two families, neighborhoods, communities, places of worship, private markets, dr. norris --

entreprenuers. many of you know that i talk sometimes about costco, kmart, wal-mart. if you go to a store like that, you will often times a mom or dad with a grocery cart with a year's supply of chips in their car because they are trying to save money. they are trying to get the most value for the money they do have. they want that on the government as well and they are not getting it. we have a government in washington, d.c. that was fighting recently about whether to spend $3.60 trillion or $3.70 trillion. the problem was, they were only taking in $2.20 trillion. we need to fundamentally change

this country. in minnesota, one of the bluest states in the union, mitt romney and i used to debate each other about whether massachusetts or minnesota was more liberal. we have changed my state. we cut spending and brought it below zero for the first budget cycle in our 150 year history. [applause] we cut taxes over my eight years as governor. we were one of the first states in the country to have performance pay for teachers statewide. we had pension reform. ito was the largest transit strikes in the history of the country -- bus driver shut down the chances system for 44 days -- i had people standing outside my window saying pawlenty is a weapon of mass destruction.

in minnesota, i share that with you. to say as frank sinatra always sang about your, if we can do it in the land of mondale and humphrey and u.s. senator al franken, we can do it anywhere. [applause] it was not easy. with all due respect to other people in public office, some of them need a little encouragement. pushing them back up against the wall metaphorically matters. i had the first government shut down under my watch in minnesota in the 150 year history of the state. i set a record for vetoes in my state single season and won the most in history. the cato institute is a

libertarian organization. they gave only four governors in the country an a. louisiana, west virginia, and minnesota. i am proud of that. [applause] i just want to share with you in the minute i have left, working in the mills was not easy. working in the meatpacking plant or driving a truck was not easy. of course, when you see those big plants shut down in manchester or south st. paul and the faces of unemployment in your community and disruptions to your family and community, you see things not as a budget number, but as a matter of a family and of the bargain future. my mother died when i was 16. my dad lost his job for a while not too long after that.

when you are young and your mom passes and your father is unemployed, you learn about hard work and individual responsibility, but we also know that in america we are strong people. i see a brighter future for our nation. that is why i am running for president. [applause] it will be formally and finally announced later. [laughter] that is the secret to this country -- we are hopeful, optimistic group of people. we are not about thinking china is going to lead the world and we are going to be second, third, or fourth place. let's get to it and take back our country. thank you very much. [applause]

>> governor, a decade ago, federal highways were at $1.80 trillion. today, they are more than double that. what are some of the specific policies that he would pursue to get the spending under control and would it have to include entitlement reform, especially medicare? >> if you look at the federal outlays of about $3.70 trillion in the pie chart of federal spending, looking at the red part of the pie chart being be mandatory or all of pilot spending, medicare, medicaid, social security, and interest on the national debt -- that read part of the pie chart is over the line. at the rate it is going, it will soon be over the three quarter line. the blue part is defense.

if you believe what i believe about defense, which we should not cut, then the real answer to the problem lies in the red part of the pie chart. be bulk of that is the entitlement programs. i believe we need to look the american people in the eye and tell them the truth. we need to speak courageously about the challenges we are in. do not scare them, but showed them the solutions and the way forward. in social security, it is time to say to the american people or new entrants into the program, because life expectancies are increasing, we are going to gradually increase the retirement age overtime for new entrants into social security. we have to do it. i think we can get the bulk of america to agree to that. given the choices that we have in front of us, i believe we have to do at least this -- as

it relates to the cost-of- living adjustments to social security, it is time we look the american people in the eye and say if you are wealthy you are not going to get as big a cost of living adjustment as if you are a middle income or lower income. those things will send a powerful signal to the world commodity markets, to our country that we can solve our problems and get these programs back on track. i believe a majority of the country will embrace that. on medicare and medicaid, i believe we should do what paul ryan suggested -- block grant the whole thing to the laboratories of democracy, the states. [applause] medicare is a longer answer, but two things to note in particular -- we cannot have a 1950 system that pays providers based on historical cost without regard to results or quality. we have to align the money to the results we want.

we have to have people have some skin in the game in terms of being in charge of their own health care and making choices of what is best for them and their family, not having a centralized system run out of washington, d.c. with limited or no choices. >> thank you. thank you, governor. [applause] as you may know, new hampshire's house recently passed legislation that will allow new hampshire to pull out of the capping trade style energy tax system. -- cap and trade style energy tax system. as governor of minnesota, you supported something that was similar in the early 2000's. have you changed your views and approach to this issue? >> yes. a couple of years ago after considering cap and trade in minnesota and regionally, i changed my position and said it

was a mistake. it was stupid. i am sorry. [applause] it is a ham fisted. this was a couple of years ago. in a communication to congress, i said i no longer had that position. it was wrongly directed. it was directionally want philosophically. everybody has a couple of clockers in the record. that is one of mine. i am sorry. it was a mistake. [applause] >> thank you, governor. >> our second speaker this evening is senator rick santorum from the great state of pennsylvania. please give him a big welcome. [applause]

>> thank you very much. i am honored to be here in new hampshire. it is my 15th trip to new hampshire in the past year. i just came from my hometown of pittsburgh where i spoke at the convention. of wanted to speak to the n.r.a. one of the things they are always focused on -- i am a member and i get the magazine. the name of the magazine is a "freedom." it is the core of what motivates me. what would your plans beat? the plan has to be what is the core values that make america different than any country in the history of the world? what made our economy more successful? what made our society more successful? it comes down to the document

that is the why for america. the constitution is the how -- how does america operate? it is on the lips of every american, or at least used to be before the education system got to our children. "we hold these truths to be self evident that all men are held -- all men are created equal." our founders understood -- [applause] our founders understood that is a lie. is it an economic understanding of the world? no. it is a more understanding. america is a moral and duke -- moral enterprise. all of us is created equal -- why?

are they equal in any objective way? probably not. why is she equal? because she is a cool in the eyes of god, jack, and everybody else. the founders understood that america, if it was going to be a prosperous and great nation, had to have a "why" that held us together. we are equal and we have rights from god given to us and the government's role, very clearly, was to be limited for the one thing. one of my favorite movies is "city slickers." the one thing of america, the whole purpose of america is to keep you free so you can provide for yourself, your family, the people you love, and the gaudy

serve. that is the -- and the god you serve. that is the "why" of america. someone told my grandfather that his children had to put on a brown shirt and march every day. he said he would give up that security that the government would provide for him. he worked until he was 72-years old in the coal mines of western pennsylvania. he sacrificed like every generation of americans. he made sacrifices for one thing -- that one thing is what people are so animated about across america. it is the one thing at stake in this election. president of the united states two weeks ago said something every person in this room should know and repeat over and over again -- it is descriptive

of what the problem is that is confronting america. he said in his budget report to paul ryan -- he talked about the wonders of medicare, medicaid, and unemployment insurance. he said this -- "america is a better country because of those policies." fine. then he said this -- "i will go one step further -- america was not a great country until those programs." [catcalls] can you imagine the president of this country saying america was not a great country prior to 1965? america was founded in great. it was not great because some politicians gave us stuff. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, if we want

to revive this economy and this nation, do you want to know what motivates me? it is what jim demint's book was about. freedom. it is about freedom and trust in the american people. trusting that each and everyone of you by serving your god and providing for yourselves and your families and, yet been your brother's keeper of in your community, collectively we can do much better than a group of people in washington, d.c. designing things for us. [applause] this hugee from budget deficit, this huge burden we have laid on this country is the result of people in washington think they know better and the trust themselves more than they trust you. obamacare is about a man who

believes he is caring for you so he designed a health care system that provides for every man and woman in america. that is carrying in his mind. that is not caring. that is trying to manipulate every man and woman to do what you want them to do and that is not america. [applause] what would i do to get this economy going? first and foremost i would repeal obamacare. out of the box. [applause] i would cut taxes and cut taxes on people who create jobs in america and incentivize corporations to keep their employment here in this country by cutting corporate taxes. those are the kinds of things we have to do. again, trusting, trusting, you, trusting you, trusting the american people to do what is right. we also need an energy policy.

look at what is going on in our country today with these huge gas prices. and here's what the president of the united states said. he mocked sarah palin and john mccain and others from the last election who were talking about drill, baby, drill. he said that's not the answer. no, the answer is we need to conserve. we need to use less. we need all these new technologies to conserve and use less, liquid fuel. does the president really think you are that stupid? think about what he said. the anticipates is not supply. -- the answer is not supply. it's just demand. any basic economics class said there are two ways in which you can affect price. supply and demand. and under the president's world, there's only one. he does believe you're that stupid. but let me tell you what's going on right now in america. when i left the united states senate, we were fighting over

building l&g terminals on the east coast of the country. why? because we didn't have enough natural gas. well, during that time, we found something in pennsylvania, and in new york called marcelus shale. the largest natural gas find in the country. and guess what we're doing with those l.n.g. terminals? we're exporting natural gas y? drill, baby, drill. [applause] you want a lower cost? the reason and i'm almost done -- [laughter] i'll be very quick with my answers to the questions. the reason that we're seeing gasoline prices high is not because there's a shortage of gasoline. it's because there's uncertainty as where that gasoline is coming from. we need to make sure that gasoline is coming from here and those prices will come down. [applause] you didn't get my big close.

but that's -- >> senator, the administration has been pursuing a regulatory assault on americans, families, businesses, that they really can't get through congress. they're using the environmental protection agency, national labor relations board, other agencies to pursue their agenda. as president, what would you do about this assault from a regulatory perspective and rolling it back and specifically would you call for legislation that says congress has to approve regulations that cost beyond a certain dollar amount? >> we have all sorts of regulatory review procedures already in the congress. but look, the heart of the problem of regulations is passing laws and jim talks about this, passing laws that are these huge expansive bills that provide enormous flexibility for regulators to do incredible amounts of mischief. so the problem is the congress. it's -- the president is using the authority that the congress is giving to them.

you look at the obamacare bill. and i think there's 700 times the words -- "the secretary shall" appears in that bill. you're giving power away from the people who were elected to actually make decisions about how government should operate and you're yielding them to the executive branch and worse yet to the bureaucracies within that branch. and so the best answer to this is not the -- to mess around with the regulatory system but let's get back to simpler bills, no big three, four, five, 6,000-page bills. but talk about getting simple bills that actually force congress to make decisions. when the lnrb, what's an unfair labor practice? well, read that law. you have no idea what an unfair labor practice is. so let's get congress back to the job of actually articulating what the laws should be and not yielding that authority over to the executive branch. [applause]

>> senator tomko burn has called earmarks the gateway -- senator tom coburn has called earmarks the gateway drug to -- and they explode spending and even when republicans were in charge they dramatically increased. and you supported -- has your view of these earmarks changed and where would you go policy wise if you were president? >> jim demint, now, he doesn't have nearly the traction -- the arm that i had. i will say that. and in congress i came into the united states senate with bill clinton in charge of the presidency. and on a variety of issues, i did not like the way the president was spending money. so i aggressively earmarked money so i -- we would spend money in areas that otherwise the president would not have spent. and i think you make a legitimate argument. that that got out of control. and it led to larger and larger increases of spending.

and thanks to again the good counsel of my friend, jim demint, i think it is -- we owe the american public cold turkey on this. we owe them that this is not something we were going to do. but i think it's very important to also say that we need to have -- if we're going to do that we need to have a lot more aggressive oversight on what the administration is spending the money on. because when you don't, when you get rid of earmarks, you give that authority over to the executive to do. and so i think congressional oversight is vitally important. if we're going to do that. but i have said that earmarks are a bad thing. but again, it's a very easy thing for someone who's thinking about, tim, thinking about running for president, to say that you swear off earmarks. because earmarks are congress and not the president. so if you swear off earmarks that means actually the president gets to spend more money. so yeah, the answer is yes. and i think jim and the folks who have been advocating for this, rightly point out that it is a corrupting influence.

in the appropriations process. it has led to more spending. and it's something we should get rid of. >> senator rick santorum. >> thank you very much. [applause] and our third participant is governor mitt romney from massachusetts. governor? >> thank you, my friends. good to see so many people this evening. great to have you here. thank you. for your great service to this great state and to our nation. thank you also, mr. speaker, thank you for those that have come from outside the state to join us this evening. what a week this has been. from one extreme to the other. our hearts go to the people in the south who were affected by that terrible series of tornadoes. this morning, great excitement as we saw a wedding across the pond. and big political news this week. the president finally produced

a long form birth certificate. and there was no one more disappointed than that amiable know it all windbag joe biden. [laughter] we wish joe biden well. now, i want to thank you in new hampshire for the role that you play, a critical role in assessing who should be our nominee and who the next president ought to be. and that's a role which is special because you put so much attention and involvement in the selection of individuals and pay so much attention to them. i appreciate that. the nation does. and because of your special role, i want to tell you a bit why ann and i are back talking to you about a presidential run. and i will begin with family and values. my dad, you don't know a lot about. he grew up poor, actually. he was governor later in life but grew up poor. his dad went broke multiple times. he was a laugh and plaster carp tr as a young man. and on his honeymoon to pay for

the hotels and gas he sold aluminum paint from the -- aluminum and paint from the trunk of his car but he believed in america. and became head of a car company and became governor. he taught me values. he taught me the value of hard work. he taught me the value of family and faith and their preeminence in my life. he taught me to care for other people and he taught me a profound and abiding love for the united states of america. as my career began, i got involved in business as you know. and as a result of the business i started or helped to start, i was involved with some startup businesses and some very large businesses, some in trouble, sometimes successful, sometimes not. but one thing i learned was how jobs grow in this country and how they go elsewhere. and how you compete with other countries and i learned how you can try and make america more competitive place with more jobs to grow. that's why it's broken my heart

to watch this president, who has no experience in the private sector, never worked in a business at a job that you're working in. has no experience in leadership. and he took the reins of the country at the time the economy was going down. and as a result, he says, well, he just inherited the downturn. yes, that's right. but he made it worse and made it deeper and longer. it's three years now. we have 20 million americans out of work or underemployed or have given up looking for work. we have people who don't know how they can make ends meet because of the cost of gasoline. and the higher cost of food. it is simply inexcusable. he could have learned better. he came to new hampshire. look, he saw the mills in manchester. he saw the buildings. recognized that there was an economic crisis here. he could have learned that when you dealt with that economic crisis, you believed in holding down taxes. keeping regulations low. balancing budgets. keeping government small. and that formula has filled those new buildings. and now new hampshire is a

capital of innovation and small business. but he didn't look to new hampshire. instead he looked to europe. he looked to europe. and what he saw over there was when their economies got in trouble, that they spent more money and borrowed more money. that's what he did. and when he saw that their health care system was in trouble the federal government took it over. that's what he did. and then of course when energy prices were high over there, the solution was higher energy prices with cap and trade. and then he also looked at labor regulations and said you know what? we need to tilt the playing field much more in favor of labor. all the things he did, you look at them, one by one, are just like the europeans did. and europe doesn't work there and sure as heck not going to work here. he got it wrong. don't look to europe. look to america. i believe in america [applause] -- bailiff in the american experience. we got -- i believe in the american experience.

we got it right. they got it wrong. when founders spoke of freedom and opportunity, think of the choices that they made. they could have fashioned our declaration and our constitution to put in place a strong central government or a king to tell us what to do and how to do it. but instead they said no, we're not only going to let the american people select their representatives, we're going to let the american people choose their course in life. and by virtue of that choice, america became the place on the planet where every person seeking opportunity, every pioneer, every freedom lover, wanted to come here. circumstances of birth was no barrier to what we could accomplish and so they came here. by the millions. even those who came here involuntarily as slaves had to overcome prejudice and bias in order to become part of the american dream. and they did so and became champions in doing that. we are pioneers, freedom lovers, freedom seekers, innovators, champions. and we are not going to let barack obama or the democrats or the liberals take that away

from america. [applause] i believe in free enterprise. and capitalism. how many people in here, you or your spouse, work in a business, in the private sector, almost everybody. i don't think the president likes you. [laughter] i do like you. he like the jobs that you create. i know what it takes to make more good jobs. i believe in small government. america believes in small government. we're spending too much money. we have a cap on how much money we spent at the federal level at 19% of g.d.p. or more, cap the spending and cap the regulations as well. [applause] we americans are a patriotic people. i believe in the love which we have for this great country. i have seen as i gone across the country and seen the passion and fervor that people have for this great land. and when i had the fun of helping organize the olympic winter games, i noticed that

the athletes of america, when we got the gold medal, they put their hand over their heart as the national anthem was played. no other young people from around the world did that that i could notice. i wonder where that tradition began. i understand it began under f.d.r. who during the second world war asked the american people to put their hand over their heart during the playing of the national anthem. as a sign of respect and admiration and love for those who had lost their lives, who shed their blood in behalf of liberty. for heroes proved in lib ratting strife who more -- and mercy more than life. this is a great country. america's greatness is being challenged by those who would make us more like europe or like some other place. the right answer for america is not to turn elsewhere, to turn northward to new hampshire, and other great states that have -- understand the principles of freedom and opportunity and free enterprise and capitalism

and small government and federalism and the constitution. this is a great land. god has blessed america. he has blessed it in part because great people have adhered to principles that are eternal in nature. we will hold fast to those principles that make america america and by doing so we'll provide for our next generations with freedom and prosperity and a land that our god will be proud to call his own. thank you so much. great to be with you tonight. [applause] >> governor, on the first day of the current administration, the price of a gallon of gas was $1.83. it's doubled basically since then. >> wow. >> $1.83. >> and not just gasoline but utility bills as well that are going up. what policies would you pursue to bring down these energy prices that are hurting businesses and families? >> i just can't help but notice that you remember during the

ronald reagan-jim yip carter debates, that ronald reagan came up with in great thing about the misery index and that -- he hung that around jimmy carter's neck and that had a lot to do with jimmy carter losing. we'll have to hang the obama misery index around his neck. and i'll tell you, the fact -- the fact that you've got people in this country really squeezed, with gasoline getting so expensive, with commodities getting so expensive, families are having a hard time making ends meet. so we're going to talk about that. and housing foreclosures and bankruptcies and higher taxation. we're going to hang him with that -- so to speak, metaphorically. you have to be careful these days. i learned that. [laughter] with that obama misery index. what do you say about energy prices? we're not going to change them overnight. he would like to find a scapegoat. any time the president has an area of concern, he tries to find someone to blame. we're going to have an investigation into -- to see if this -- if price gouge something going on.

the reason gasoline prices are high is we don't have enough hoyle and we haven't put in place -- enough oil and we haven't put in place -- and to see gasoline prices brought down, you have to increase supply. now, some would say that would take years to come about. but you know something about now pricing works. when prices are set, they look not only at the supply and demand today but their expectation of future supply and demand. and if we start drilling, and use our natural gas, which is suddenly become massive abundance, and use our oil, and our coal, as well as our renewable resources, we can change the equation in supply and demand long term and finally begin to bring that balance into a point where prices can be affected. and by the way, one more thing. if we're going to spend a lot more energy, let's spend it here at home. let's not spend -- spend half a trillion dollars to bad guys around the world. >> that's right. that's right. [applause] >> governor, given the benefit

of hindsight, would you still sign the health care bill that you signed in law when were you governor of massachusetts? >> i was hoping i would get that question. >> thank you. it's about time. let me tell you, in my state, like in most states, there are a lot of problems in health care. you got people who if they change jobs, lose insurance, and can't get reinsured, you got people who have preexisting conditions that can't get insurance. you have something else you're concerned about, people that don't have insurance at all. and then there's some folks who show up at a hospital with let's say a heart attack or come from an automobile accident, and they rack up huge bills. $100,000, $200,000 and don't have any insurance. guess who they expect to pay? you. the taxpayers. my state, we were spending hundreds of millions of dollars giving out free care to people who could have afforded to take care of themselves. and i went to work to solve a problem. and it may not be perfect. by the way it is not perfect. some parts of that experiment

worked. some parts didn't. some things i would change. one thing i would never do by the way would be to impose a one size fits all plan like obamacare on the nation. that's simply wrong and unconstitutional and it won't work. and i like how the president wants to -- [applause] you will note he and the democrats want to constantly give me credit for their plan. you know the method to their madness. but if and when i have the occasion to debate president obama, i'm going to ask him this question, mr. president, why didn't you call me and ask how it worked? why some parts didn't work. his plan will not work. it will bankrupt us. it is absolutely wrong. it's unconstitutional and bad policy. it's bad for america's families. and i'm -- i of course will fight to repeal obamacare. but on day one, if i were president of the united states, on day one, i would instruct the secretary of health and human services to grant a waiver from obamacare to all 50

states. >> governor mitt romney. [applause] next, businessman herman cain from georgia. [applause] >> congratulations to the people of the granite state for -- that shows we the people are still in charge of this country. thank you for doing that. [applause] let it be borne in mind that the tragedy of life does not lie in not reaching your goals. the tragedy lies in having no goals to reach for. it's not a clamity to die with dreams unfulfilled.

but it is a clamity to have no dreams. the american dream is under attack. the american dream is under attack because of too much legislation. too much regulation. and too much taxation. but there's good news. we can take it back. and we've already started to take back the american dream. step number one, in taking back the american dream, is to stimulate this economy, it's real simple. jobs, jobs, jobs, will help to restore the american dream to millions of people who have given up hope. one of the first things i would ask this congress to do in order to stimulate this economy with direct stimulus, not more government spending, number one. lower the corporate tax rates

from 35% to 25%. we are the only nation on the planet that has not done it in the last 15 years. and also lower personal income tax rates. because this may come as a surprise to the liberals. when people keep more of what they earn, and businesses keep more of what they earn, the economy grows. you take it out of the government hands, and you put it in the people's hands. [applause] number two, take the capital gains tax rate to zero. that's going to drive the liberals crazy. but take it to zero. the liberals want to argue where you just rewarderring the rich. no, you aren't. you're stem lating investment in this country. lowering taxes is not in their d.n.a. but if we take this message to the american people, and they understand how it going to stimulate the economy, i believe that we will be able to get the people to support it. number three, repatriated profits.

take it to zero. they are not coming home anyway. this is -- we've got nearly $1 trillion offshore that's not coming home because the liberals want to tax it. take it to zero. number four, let's give workers and employers a real payroll tax holiday. not this little crumb that they threw out of lowering it a couple of percent. i believe that we can lower the payroll tax for every worker in america. 6.2% for a year. every employer for america, the full 6.2%. let's give every worker in america a raise of 6.2% for a year. and i guarantee you that this economy will be growing at a bigger rate than it is growing now. [applause] now, the liberals are going to say, how are you going to pay for it? it pays for itself. if they would stop long enough

and look at history over the last 100 years, proper tax cuts pay for themselves. we simply got to educate the american public on that fact and not the fact that tax cuts cost money. number five, and most importantly, in my five-point plan, after you make those changes, make the tax rates permanent. uncertainty is killing investment in this country. make them permanent. and by putting more of the people's money back in the hands of the people. we will get government out of the business as a start of picking winners and losers. government's role is not to pick winners and losers. government's role is to make sure that they provide the environment for businesses to thrive and not just survive.

spending. let's start with repeal and replacement of obamacare from a government-centered program to a patient-centered program. ideas are already on the table. all we have to do is take those ideas and pass it with the right leadership. spending. three words. cut, cut, cut. i can think of a few agencies in washington, d.c., that might need to be cut all the way to the bone. i don't believe in unfunded mandates. i believe as representative ryan has talked about, if we are going to send money to the states, let's block grant it. and if i were president of the united states, i would use the same approach that i used when i took over some failing companies that were going broke. you do an across-the-board cut of about 10%. then you do a deep drive. mitt has -- do a deep dive. mitt has talked about this. sit down with a new agency head and find those programs that

are overlapping or duplicative or they don't do anything anymore. too many programs in washington, d.c., simply just die on the vine. and we keep paying for them. [applause] the only way that we're going to seriously cut is to restructure those programs like social security. that's where i would start. i would use the chilean model. with the personal retirement account option. now, the liberals are going to try to demagogue it and say you're trying to privatize social security and take away the benefits for old people, puppy dogs and kids. this is how they generally tried to demagogue stuff. the small country of chile did it 30 years ago. they fixed their problem. i believe with the right leadership, we can also fix ours. now, here's why i believe we can do this, folks. we've got to have the right leadership in the white house. and i believe if you got the right leader in the white house, that understands what i call common sense solutions, we

can do this. and here's why. if you get past that line in that great document, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, you'll find some more words as i told a caller one night. if any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it. we've got some altering and abolishing to do. [applause] and so i believe we can do this because we the people are still in charge of this country. the second reason that i believe we can do it is because this sleeping giant called we the people, the tea party movement, the citizens movement, whatever you want to call it, this sleeping giant has awakened and it's not going back to sleep. this is why i believe we will be able to do this. now, that being said, not going to be easy. it wasn't easy for the grandest

state to turn this state, not going to be easy for us to take back our government. but i believe that we can. my grandfather was a small farmer all of his life. my grandfather used to take a wagon load of potatoes into town. he didn't drive down the smooth center part of the road. grandpa would always drive on the rough part of the dirt road. and so i asked my grandfather one day, grandpa, why did you drive with those mules pulling the wagon on the rough part of the road? he said, that way, by the time we get to town, all of the little potatoes would be on the bottom. and all of the big potatoes would be on the top. here are the big potatoes. in we can take back our country.

-- if we can take back our country. be a big potato. [applause] >> mr. cain, do you support a balanced budget amendment to the constitution and if so, what provisions would you need to see in it specifically? >> yes, i support a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. absolutely. [applause] the provision in it should be real simple. every year, the united states congress cannot spend more than we take in. it's really simple. and if we have a thriving economy, by stimulating it with direct stimulus, we won't have a revenue problem. and it will be easier for us to be able to balance our budget every year. [applause]

>> businesses often support corporate welfare in taxpayer subsidies. they decry other forms of welfare. would you support any taxpayer subsidies for businesses and corporations? >> from my experience serving on several corporate boards for the last 20 years, businesses would very quickly trade and giving up any sort of subsidies and what some people call "corporate welfare" in exchange for less regulation. how about starting all over again? how about taking some of the regulations that are costing businesses money and start over again? one of the things i would do is put together a regulatory production commission. for example, for the epa. the people i will point to that commission will be everybody that has been abused by the epa. [laughter] [applause]

>> mr. herman cain. [applause] please welcome congresswoman michelle bachmann from minnesota. [applause] >> some of us are a little more height challenged in the room. thank you for the warm invitation to join all of you this evening. it is an honor for me to be here. you are the embodiment of where this country is going. you proved it in the last election. we are extremely proud of you. this is the core and the nucleus

of the movement here in this room. i want to thank you. thank you for what you have done. [applause] just before the last election, all of us were working hard to change the composition, not only here in the granite state, but also in the house of representatives and the senate. it looked as if we had a good shot to take the house and the senate. i sat down with my pen and paper because i wanted to write down what would we do if we actually were able to get the gavel? what would we do? i hope you will indulge me. i want to read to you what i wrote down about what we could do. imagine a stable, economic, and political environment where a job creator can get to bed at night assured the rules of the game business is run by it will

remain the same in the foreseeable future. imagine that the federal government announced the following tomorrow -- a 25% cut in discretionary spending, about the amount that president obama increased spending by in his first few months in office. then we can still be outstanding stimulus that worked so well. if you cancel the outstanding stimulus fines and return be repaid part bonds to the united states treasury. then we would reinstate the 1994 welfare reform act with a lifetime cap of five years. that was one of the first things speaker polelosi did. she got rid of that act. we need to put that back into place. a balanced budget proposed and passed this year with no tax increases. and a commitment to know increased spending beyond population growth plus

inflation. imagine the federal government would send a letter to every state and local government announcing it would not now or ever bailout any underfunded public employee pension plan or health care plan. [applause] thank you, governor walter pripet the federal government within announced to private businesses, both unionized and non unionized -- uncle sam would declare himself out of the financial backstop business. that would include telling wall street investors they have seen the last of federal bailouts. the dice wall street roles would be theirs to deal with. price your risk accordingly. next, we would declare getting out of an awning private businesses starting with fannie and freddie -- owning a private business is starting with fannie and freddie. these failed monstrosities should be put on an auction

block and sold to the finest -- the highest bidder. the federal government would legalized competition in the mortgage industry and congress would sell government shares in aig, the largest insurance company in america as well as chrysler, general motors, bank of america, and citi. it is time to get out of the private industry. [applause] uncle sam with then legalized private student lending. imagine that? that would end the federal government's and vall met. obamacare would be repealed and in its place congress would allow americans to published -- to purchase any health insurance policy they want in any state they want with no minimum mandates, using your own tax-$3, allowing all americans to deduct

their costs on their individual tax returns. that is it. you can get that all done in about 18 pages and we are there. the epa would then be subject to a full review and would downsize their mission focused on conservation, safe air, air, and water. no cap and trade, not now, not ever. [applause] congress would then legalize american energy production in natural gas, hydro, wind, solar. hamsters running on a case. all of us with public safety requirements and all without federal subsidies. withstanding reduced and uncle sam getting out of private industry, congress would create a pro-growth society. it would cut corporate tax down to 9%, the lowest in the

industrialized world. zero out capital gains. zero out the death tax. increase section 179 expense into one other% in the year of purchase. all the marginal income-tax rates would be no higher than 20%. we could simplified this even a little further. we could take the federal tax code, we could scrap that thing altogether as far as i am concerned and adopt a national consumption tax. some call it a fair tax. as far as i am concerned, a fair tax or a flat tax, let's get rid of what we have and start over. [applause] finally, i would have congress pass the mother of all repeal bills to repeal the last four years of nancy pelosi, harry

reid, and obama. [applause] that would be a pleasure. just like the democrats say their big spending, big government pet projects, so too should pro-growth republicans passed a massive repeal bill that does away with government rules and regulations that kill american job growth. in my opinion, that should take committed constitutional conservatives a long weekend to get it done. [laughter] drink your energy drink, and the way we get. here is the outside. imagine certainty. imagine downsizing government. imagine -- imagine the government no longer on in private businesses. imagine legalizing new business opportunities. imagine competitive tax rates. imagine the freedom to succeed.

we can do the [applause] is. it really is not that hard to put our house in order. this dream can be our reality in less than two years if we win the triple crown of the house, the senate, and the white house. i know it can happen. i fought against obamacare. some of you patriots answer this call. he responded by coming to washington, d.c. to fight against socialized medicine. i want you to know that i am committed to not resting until obamacare is finally repealed. it will happen. do not give up hope. [applause] here is why i know it will happen -- it is american ingenuity that has given us the greatest nation on earth. let me end with this one story -- polio was a killer.

it not only devastated children and adults, it devastated our economy. a private charity, march of dimes, worked together with other organizations and were able to bring about the immunization by jonas salk. it changed the course of history. america has done that throughout history, and we can do it again whether it is energy, health care -- you name the subject, we are capable if we can get our house in order. thank you. [applause] >> congresswoman, if the votes were not in place to repeal obamacare fully, what steps did you take it would be most effective to roll it back? >> what we should be doing right now is pulling -- is fully

defunding obamacare. we should not give one time to put this frankenstein into place. that is something the house of representatives can do. remember -- president obama does not have access. harry reid does not have access to one dime of your money unless and until the house of representatives authorizes that money. if you have conservatives in charge of the house of representatives, why in the world would we give even at one time to end late this monster? that is where we have our. that is where we need to stand. that is the line in the sand that we need to draw right now -- defund obamacare. [applause] >> our nation's debt when it stands at $14.30 trillion and we are about to exceed it. what should be done this summer when the limit is reached?

>> my opinion is we should not increase the debt ceiling. [applause] i believe what we have to do number one is stand for the full season credit of the united states of america. we have a bill being sponsored by representative tom quinn thought that says this -- it director timothy geithner, who has a tax problem of his own, to tell him he is mandated to first pay off all debts of the united states, all interest and all obligations so we do not put the credit of the united states at risk. i am here to tell you, and i believe you will agree, we are in trouble now. not 10 years from now, not five years from now? we are in deep trouble now. you cannot allow us to continue to go on in the united states

congress and spend money that we do not have. we are paying a price for this now. what we have to do is have a very real conversation today with every segment of our population -- young, old, black, white, poor, rich -- all of us. we are all americans and we are all in this together. we have to have a conversation today about why this year we should look at how we are going to balance our budget this year. have those conversations this year about medicare, medicaid, social security, discretionary spending, not discretionary spending. had it this year. our nation is capable of this conversation. the american people are not children. they are adults. they love this country. i come from the state of minnesota where on our birth certificate -- and i do have one -- generally speaking, they step

democrat on your birth certificate in our state. i grew up in a democratic household. a lot of things i know about independents and democrats, they are reasonable, fair minded people. if we roll out where we are at right now in the united states, i believe in reasonable, fair- minded americans. i do. you do. and i think most americans will vote that this country goes on. >> congresswoman michele bachmann. [applause] >> thank you. >> i want you to take note of this, ladies and gentlemen -- five potential candidates for the republican nomination, five

speeches, questions to each -- we are finishing 12 minutes ahead of schedule. give them a hand, by the way. [applause] thank you for coming. the next yeare as unfolds we have the most direct conversation possible about the economic future of our country. with that, i would like to welcome back up our host for the evening. [applause] >> a little taller than the congresswoman. what i want to remind everyone of why we came tonight -- first and foremost, that was to honor the conservative of the year from new hampshire. [applause]

secondly, i would also like to thank the potential presidential candidates for a hearing to are very complex lighting system of red, green, and yellow over there. thank you. thirdly, i like to remind all of you if you're not aware, as you leave, just a couple of important notes -- there is a silent auction of the left-hand side as he walked out the door. there is a document that all the potential candidates have signed. there's a picture of the capital that would be a great man into. additionally, if you would like more information about our foundation, you can go to the web site at americansforprosperity.org. lastly, there is a poster that everyone will receive as you leave this evening. there is a picture of all the individuals who spoke tonight. we had some of the individuals in those.

-- we had some of the individuals signed those. i would ask the reverend to come back up and close our evening on time. yet he is not here, is there another reverend in the house? [laughter] any other reverend? herman cain, can you come up and give us a closing statement? herman cain. [applause] >> let us pray. almighty god, we give thanks for you being the creator of all things. we give thanks for this great nation and that we give thanks,

o lord, for life itself. we thank you for the fellowship on this evening and we thank you, dear master, for giving us the opportunity to be a part of the greatest country in the world. the founding fathers did their job. we plate -- we prayed for strength that we can beat the defending fathers. this is our prayer, dear lord. amen. [applause] >> thank you very much and have a good evening. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011]

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i appreciate your help. >> i all and marketing company. i do social media strategy. i started when i was 16. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> can i have your autograph, please?

>> hit them one right after

another. that is what we need. >> how long have you been in the legislature? >> one year. >> how do you like it? >> i liked it. we are getting some things done. i am used to getting them done a lot quicker. thank you very much. >> thank you for your service and leadership. we appreciate it.

>> we will see you next month. >> thank you. you are doing a great job. i appreciate it.

>> i liked watching the young lady try to scare you. [laughter] >> thank you for coming. you are back. how did you get in here. i would get my pen out. you have to give him credit for persistence. >> unbelievable. [laughter] >> hello, governor. >> hell are you doing? >> i have not met anybody better than you. you are one of the best. >> thank you very much and good luck. >> hell are you, mary? >> it was awesome. where do you live.

>> my daughter is doing a triathlon. >> are you going to cheer her on? is she doing that here? >> no. in massachusetts. >> how are you doing? >> i am doing good. >> i love you governor. >> i am not signing that one. [laughter]

>> i am there every three weeks for one week.

>> i just wanted to say hello again. we had a great turnout. it is good to see you again. >> hello, governor. it is great to see you again. he and his wife and children just moved from colorado.

i worked on the air force base. >> we are glad you are here.

>> we all need to work our way out of the room. i would be very helpful. >> things wrapping up in manchester, new hampshire. this was hosted by the americans for prosperity foundation. we heard from minnesota congresswoman michelle bachmann, a businessman herman cain, and former governors 10 pawlenty of minnesota and mitt romney of massachusetts, and former pennsylvania senator rick santorum. you'll be able to find the remarks on line at the c-span

video library. we will also show this tomorrow morning on c-span just before "washington journal." >> real-estate developer and potential gop presidential candidate donald trump spoke yesterday to a group of republicans in las vegas. he spoke about president obama's handling of foreign issues and he also commented on the release of his birth certificate. his speech comes to us courtesy of a loss biggest television station. this 35 minute event contains language that some viewers might find offensive. >> i was traveling up to new hampshire. i was in a helicopter. i got a call. i was just about to exit the helicopter and, what happens? i hear that obama finally gave his birth certificate. [applause]

i got such credit for that because i accomplished something that nobody else has accomplished. [applause] it was amazing. they all said, "hillary clinton tried to get him to do it. bill clinton tried to get him to do it. john mccain, who is a wonderful guy, try to get him to do it here "nobody could get him to do it. he did it because we went after him hard with tough negotiators, like this country needs. i just ask one thing -- why did he not do it two or three years ago? why does he have to put this country through turmoil, which is what it is going through right now? i will give you an example. obamacare is a disaster. [applause]

i know lots about litigation. overall, i understand the system. we are going through a process right now -- either you have it or you do not have it. why do we have to go through the lower courts? why do we not let it go straight to the supreme court's? why did he not do it three years ago? i have a lot of france that -- friends whose companies or destroyed over obamacare. the court could overrule it very quickly and very easily. now they spend millions of dollars changing the documents and doing everything you have to do. then the courts can take a vote and loose. by the way, that was a great vote. [applause] you say, why do you not just

allow it to go to the supreme court? if the wind, great. if you lose, great. at least we would know what the hell we are doing. i want to thank phil ruffin. he is my friend. we have a successful building. we have a building right down the road called trump international hotel and tower. we are very proud of that. it is one of the great signs of all time, right down the middle of thes strip. he has been a great partner and a great friend. more importantly, he is a great

guy for the state of nevada. he is a great guy for lost biggest -- las vegas. when i was thinking about obama, i said i was going to come here and make a speech. i remember a few used -- a few years ago when obama did a big bang on not coming to las vegas. he did not do it once, he did it twice. i have a lot of friends that were not happy. all sorts of people canceled out. you look at what you have. even now, unemployment is over 13%. we have the president saying, "do not go to las vegas." number one in foreclosures in the nation. i do not want to make you depressed, but this is what you have got. [laughter]

york visitors have decreased markedly and the gaming revenue, as you understand, is way down. there are some serious problems, yet when we have a president, we have to have the cheerleader. i have seen the best politicians. but donald, you are running for president? do you have any experience in politics? i have dealt with these fricking .oliticians all my life perio [laughter] they are fine. some are good, some are honest, some are crooks. they come in all shapes and sizes. but i think it is good. having the perspective that i have as a businessman -- and i had made a lot of money. i have done well. if you are in new york, we only

have democrats. [laughter] somebody said, he did not contribute to republicans. the polls come out, the republican is scheduled to get 4% of the vote if he does well. he comes up to my office. "mr. trott, i think i can get 5% or 6%." speaking of polls, as you probably just saw, the rasmussen poll just came out. who is number one? trump. [applause] look, i have never done this before. who the hell knows what will happen. i have always heard from the time i was a young guy that a really successful person cannot run for high political office. i have heard it 100 times. you cannot run. people are saying, "donald,

please do not run." process, baby, i love you, too. they are saying, "please do not run. you were not nice to these people from china." they love money in china. one deal, i owned a large chunk of the bank of america building in san francisco. did i do well with the chinese? he said, "you certainly did." we need somebody. when china, this year, is going to make -- let's call it a profit. they are going to make this year $300 billion. then these idiots say, "you do not want to trade." of course i do not want to trade when they take $300 billion.

i want to trade for the break even. why should we not make for a change? [applause] now, what china has really done is they have manipulated their currency. they are professionals at manipulation. they are abusing this country like we have never been abused before, except for opec. i had them in a special category. the d.c. recently a couple of days ago where saudi arabia said, "let's raise the price and cut back production." you are going to be paying $5 to $6 a gallon for gasoline pretty soon. they want to raise the price of oil because we have nobody in washington that sits back and says, "you are not going to raise that fucking price, do you understand me?"

[cheers and applause] it is unbelievable. we are in libya. begin a part of the reason we are in libya? because the arab league, which is saudi arabia and a few of the other richest countries in the world -- they have money coming out of their ears. you go to these countries and see the most incredible airports being built or already built. ec bridges that make the george washington bridge look like a toy. you see the most unbelievable things and you come home -- we are like a third world nation. you land at what guardia -- la guardia. it is broken. it is dirty.

i do not mind going over potholes' in my car, but i do mind in planes. but would not be there except for us. libya, saudi arabia, and the others say, "we do not like gaddafi. we would like you to take them out." obama said, ok." we formed a group -- nato is us. nato is largely us. we do not even have control over what the hell we are doing. gaddafi is driving down the street waving at everybody. can you believe this? listen to this one -- do is the leader of the group? france. france wanted to go in first. of course, we have not seen them sense, but they were there the first day and they got all the glamour. [applause] they form a group and they go

in and at obama talks about the regime -- we do not want to kill or hurt anybody, we want to change government -- nobody knows what the hell he is talking about. you know the other thing about libya that really bothers me? it always gets back to china. while we are spending billions of dollars being policeman of the world, china is spending $1 billion a day buying the world. i just told an apartment for $33 million. only in new york can this happen. the apartment was just sold in a building i have on central park. it was sold to chinese gentleman. i get to know a lot of people from china. they looked at me -- about two months ago they stopped talking to me so much. [applause] they are saying, "shit, the

believe we are talking to this guy?" it is amazing. [applause] they sit there and, before i did this, -- they are competitors -- they say, "we do not believe the government allows us to do this. are they stupid?" i say, "absolutely. they are stupid." i do not blame them. i blame our leaders. here we have to signup ripping this country off like nobody has ever seen before. we have the president of china, a few months ago to washington and we give him a state dinner. when people are screwing you, you do not give them state dinners. you do not do it. [applause]

we send them home. you heard my statement, right? what we do is sit down in my office a couple of hours. we either make a deal where you stop manipulating your currency or not. if you make a deal, we can have a state dinner. if we do not make a deal, you take mcdonald's and you go home. that is it. [applause] now the chinese economy has grown so fast. it is unbelievable. we had very bad news on our economy. it is not growing. you say, "how can it grow? ben bernanke said the jobs would not come back for a long time. i think he mentioned five years. alcan you have jobs come back when every time i want to buy a product -- as an example,

television. as you know, i buy a lot of televisions. thousands of television sets. i wanted an american company. my people look at me like i am crazy. there is no american company. fromnded up buying lg's south korea. a great television set, but why are we not making them? i like the people of south korea. i do business with them. i made a great deal with them in new york. they were wonderful. here is what happened recently. we have this contract that will be signed with south korea. it is a big deal. barron trump would not sign it from our standpoint because it is so bad. he is 4-years old. a moron would not sign it. nobody would sign it. what happened is our president

does their and he wants to sign, but they do not want to sign because they want better. it is not good enough to just what the hell out a bus, they want even more. now what happens is times for a little bit different and a couple of bombs get mauled to the island from north korea. now all this sudden north korea is hitting them with some bonds. the call us and say, "we would like very much to sign contracts. you are a wonderful trading partner. we love you very much. by the way, would you mind sending a great aircraft carrier and about 17 destroyers because north korea is shooting at us." what do we do? we have this great aircraft carrier head over to north korea. we have the whole navy -- a big portion of our navy is going over there. north korea says, "this is bad news." and they stop.

we signed a terrible agreement. did i say to somebody, "to start up the engine on a carrier like the george washington -- we know. the what do have a great airplane. they say the rolls-royce is the finest engine in the world. i said i would take your word for it. i do not have to hear the engine. listen to this. we send to george washington with all of the side ships and the destroyers. do you know how much they paid us? nothing. we are stupid. our leaders are stupid. they are stupid.

it is very sad. there are so many stories like that. do you know how many soldiers, thousands and thousands, in between south and correa. they give us nothing. they take our trade. i would say thank you, i will think about that. i would make you very happy about it. we have thousands of troops. how would you like to be sitting between north korea and south korea and a barak? if they are in danger. -- in a barrack? it they are in danger. we are going to protect you. we are going to make sure you

are in good shape. you are going to pay for it. you are going to pay for it. do you want to know something? they would do it in two minutes. somebody said these people were so protective of president obama. it is unbelievable. some reporters comeuppance de "you do not mean that." -- and say, "you do not mean that." he is good. he is good. i am telling you. are you all right? take it easy. i've never seen anybody protected like this guy. if you look at what he is doing -- i said something and it came out about to three weeks ago. contractors?

i have been thinking about it for a long time. when we went to iraq, it they said we are going to iraq and they have weapons of mass destruction. they did not. they did not knock down the world trade center. they also killed in terrorist. now it is like going to the harvard of terrorism. if he wanted to go to iraq, it is the wharton school of finance for terrorism. the terrorist said "no way i am going there." we have decapitated their army. they have no army. the leaders hate us. i didn't even think a shot is going to be fired. this will be risky. a lot of people might not get it.

the reporters do not get it. do you know who gets it? the people get it. you are smarter than the best. i have been dealing with the press. some is fair and honorable. some are horrible people. i really mean that. they had a horrible relationship with a lot of people. some are great. not all. upon information and belief, iran, which has been fighting with iraq forever coming years and years that is the way it involved. one would push 10 feet this way. then they go back home. okay? the real equal. now we have decapitated iraq.

i ran which is looking to take over the entire -- the rebels you hear the talked about the rebels carrying the flag. i hear -- have all we get rid of gadaffi? we are ready in there for a billion dollars. we did not give anything from libya. i am interested in libya if we keep the oil. some said that is a sovereign nation. give me a break. is have since with iraq' similar. we spend a lot. we spend 1.5 trillion dollars so far. we can build a big chunk of our

country for that. we go to afghanistan in we go to iraq. we go to school and we build a road. they blow up the school and we build another one. in the meantime we cannot get a fucking school built. it is unbelievable. when i heard we were going to iraq, somebody said we were going to the oil. i said that makes sense. that is smart. a k? now i am saying that makes sense. the second largest oil deal in the world, it the second largest reserve in the world, $15 trillion. that does a lot to solve our deficit problem. does it not? $15 trillion.

seconds after saudi arabia. here is what we do. we go into iraq and a guesstimate their army. we have policemen. we have a police man over here. everybody hates us. what i say is simply very sinister. iran within 15 minutes after we leave one not be fighting. they will walk into iraq. they will take over iraq. there will take over the oil wells. we lost thousands of soldiers with the tens of thousands of soldiers. i see it in new york. they are seriously wounded people,.

these are tens of thousands. we had 15 trillion dollars worth of oil that we will hand over to iran. i said it will not happen if i am president. it will not happen if i am president. what we do is very simple. i explain this three weeks ago for the first time. we stayed. we get our great oil company. we get plenty to iraq. it is now obsolete crap. it did not know what they are doing. give me a break. we go into iraq. i am like an old fashioned warrior. in the old days when you had a war and you won it, it was

yours. when we have a war, we go and, we lose thousands of lives, attends a thousands wounded, spend $1.50 trillion and then we leave. what do we do this for. i said we go in and we take the oil. i think bill o'reilly is great. somebody else said that it is a sovereign nation. we cannot do that. they got wiped out. they've got nothing. if iran were not going to take it over, which that are 100%, not 95%. one of these bloodsucking politicians has been bullshitting and will get elected. they will leave and someone else

will get elected. if that happens, i ran takes over the oil. did they become a force like never before in history. they've been takeover for saudia arabia. i would protected if they paid as. otherwise, i am not interested. i am not interested in paying any of them unless they pay. we have a great ally. think of this. we have a great ally over they = caller: = here. iran wants to blow them off of the world. we cannot even beat bolivia. our leadership is weak and that that it.

they are going to have so much money. we do not do anything about it. when they takeover, there is no way we go back. we will not have the stomach to go back. what is going to happen to israel when you have them controlling crop bill probably libya. they are going to control everything over there. 99 cent of the people want to break the peace treaty with israel. did you see that? 99%. we have problems. we have week empathetic

leadership. we have incompetent leadership. i am going to make a decision. i love my life. i am having a great time. i built a great company. i have one of the talk shows on nbc. it is doing great. even the new york times certification in nice piece about a talking how great the readings were. it is a great show. i've had to give a lot to step up. it is peanuts compared to the importance of this country. when i see what opec is doing,

when i see what china is doing, china, it is hard to buy anything. semblance of what can you do? i would drop a 25% tax on china. the messenger is important. i could have one man say we are going to do this 25%. you have said the same exact thing. it is a different messenger. i tell you what will happen.

i'm a lover and not a fighter. i will tell you something. when they really believe that, when they do not have, does everyone remember that? we do not have obama having the state dinners. we have someone who is tough and smart. when i say your vendor have to put this on their comment they say when everyone knows they are abusing us. everybody knows they are manipulating the currencies. they are brought up on it.

we take six months just to put it in charge. we are going to charge 25%. the real numbers should be 45%. we can always raise it. when they believe the message, they are going to do wonderful. they are going to give us anything they want. they came out with a statement last week that this is unheard of and unthinkable. in 2016, china is going to eclipsed the united states. if you would have said that 10 years ago, people would have

laughed at you. china is going to eclipsed us in four years. under the time doctor, that does not happen. do you know why. we are going to -- under the trump doctrine, that does not happen. do you know why? we are going to go to china? look at the deal that general electric made. it does not work that way. we let you very much. the one to sell to us. bilk them en wherever the hell you want it.

you are not bringing in all your crap including your sheetrock that makes everybody sick. we make a much better project. you cannot compete price wise because of the manipulation. the first thing that happened is that they stop screwing around. here is what happens. about 60% of the will stop. we will increase the hell out of the employment. we will be building plants. we will start building it. they make weaponry. i did not know we even had anything like that anymore. this is high technology stuff. wilcox is great. look it up.

they make their own products. he will have thousands of those places. if they do not behave, that is even better. we will start building our own. we will tell all these other companies that have to build your own factories. we got to put our own people to work. i will just go one step further. it can happen so fast. if you look at what is going on, you look at what is going on. we cannot drill in the gulf. we cannot drill in alaska. a lot of people find this hard to believe. i received a lot of of our mental awards. in china and other countries,

they burn whatever the hell is available. that smoke is spewing out of those chimneys. it is cheap as hell. we want to green technology. what are we doing? i believe in green. what we are doing with oil is we have to drill in alaska. we have to drill. we've got to drill. there is so much oil. we have natural gas. we have enough natural gas that all of the oil in the united way -- the entire world put together. we have so much. abu dhabi is very rich.

did you see what they did? they are making all of their transportation running on natural gas so they can sell these to the united states oil. and i only say this. we had the potential to have a great country again. we are not a great country now. we love it. but we are not a great country. if i win, if i run and if i win, people have a rich country again. we will have a great country again.

we will be respected as a country again. thank you very much. thank you very much. thank you very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> later, and remarks from president obama and seth my ears. this is live on c-span. all along with our polls and video clips.

>> president and mrs. obama and visited alabama to view the damage around tuscaloosa. the president and first lady visited the residents and stopped to see the damage done at a local elementary school. this is part of the motorcade tour and in remarks by the president and the tuscaloosa mayor. 400 deaths have been reported. officials believe that number may rise in the coming days. there were 164 tornadoes on wednesday. it was a new record from a single storm system.

>> and michelle and i want to express our deepest condolences to not just the city of tuscaloosa but the state of alabama and all the other states that have been affected by this unbelievable storm. i've never seen devastation like this. it is heartbreaking. it is we are just talking to some residents here you were lucky enough to escape alive but

lost everything. they mentioned that their neighbors have lost to of their grandchildren in the process. you are seeing the consequence of just a few minutes of this extraordinarily possible -- powerful storms sweeping through. tuscaloosa typically gets a turn it did during the season. this is something that i do not think they have seen before. in addition to all the families that have been affected, our biggest priority now is to help the community recover. i want to think the mayor for his extraordinary leadership. they are having to deal with this. the assets of the city, a fire

station that we passed, police resources of emergency resources they have been affected. the governor has done an extraordinary job of making sure that resources are mobilized and had them brought in here. i am very pleased that we have a director here is as experienced as anybody to responding to this disaster. we have already provided the disaster designations that are required to make sure that the maximum federal help comes here.

we are going to do everything we can to help these communities rebuild. we cannot bring those who have been lost back. they are long side got at this time. we can help may be a little bit with the families dealing with the grief of having a loved one lost. the property damage which is extensive, that is something we can do something about. we will do everything we can to partner with you. this community was hit as bad as any place. their communities across this region that have been affected. we will make that same commitment to make sure we are doing what ever we can to make sure people are ok.

finally, as you walk around, three young people at the university of alabama were volunteering helping. one lived in this apartment. she is not here. what you are struck by is people's resilience in the way the community has worked together. it is inherent with the american spirit. we go through hard times but no matter how hard we may be suffering, we maintain our

faith. we look to each other. we nature we are supporting and helping each other. i am sure that spirit will continue until the city is all the way back. he was pointing out that there is a lot of national media down here now. the mayor expressed the concern that perhaps the media will move on and a day or a week or month. maybe folks will forget what has happened here. i want to assure him that the american people are with him and his community. we will make sure that you are not forgotten. with that, which like to say a few words? >> i like to personally thank you.

thank you for coming and visiting alabama. as to fly over from there, it is not do it justice until you are here on the grounds. i want you to know how much i appreciate that. we declared a state of emergency early on. we ask the president for aid and to expedite that. they have done that. i want you to know how much i appreciate that. we have a counties across the state that had been hit by major tornadoes. this is probably the worst one. we have worse ones. you see the same evidence of tornadoes all across the state. we have 210 confirmed deaths in alabama.

we have a number of people missing. we are going to continue to work in a rescue mode. we are now more in recovery mode. >> we are looking out for each other. >> let me say i am so proud of our first responders and the state. they have done an outstanding job. have all done such a fantastic job. we have a great team. we had the federal government helping yes. we can get things accomplished. that is what we are going to do. we want you to come back and maybe to go to a football game

here at a later date. thank you for your help. >> i will gladly come back. >> thank you. thank you for coming today. the last 36 hours have been trying. you are going to see a story being written. these chapters will be filled with hope and opportunity. i have been using rowlands 12:12. your visit here has brought a hope to the community. we are going to be a story that we will be proud said. thank you again for coming today. >> thank you for your leadership. we have our congressional delegation here. i am absolutely confident they will make sure that the

resources are available. i know that they have been personally affected. and then they will provide the leadership. they will do what is needed. the mayor said something very profound. he said what is amazing is that when something like this happens folks forget all their petty differences. politics, differences of the or race. all that fades away. we are reminded that we had each other. hopefully that spirit continues and grows. is one of that that the things that comes out. thank you very much.

>> president obama has announced a number of changes to its national security team with leon panetta replacing robert gates. track their careers and the early appearances on line at the c-span video library. it is washington, your way. >> the final launch of the space shuttle endeavor was called off due to technical problems with failed teachers. officials held a news conference late in the afternoon to discuss the delay and when the shuttle may be launched. this is about 40 minutes. >> >> good afternoon. the purpose of this briefing is twofold. the launch team was meeting to

develop a go forward plan for space shuttle endeavor. president obama was here. he has just left. people get a status on this. the management team at kennedy space center like moses and our national officer marc. >> we have seen endeavor lifting of this afternoon. i would much rather be on the ground wishing i was flying ban on the air wishing that was on the ground. safety always comes first.

these guys will talk about the issue that we had in our plan to troubleshoot it. in spite of that, even though he continues with his visit to the kennedy space center, i think he really enjoyed it. i know his family did. he arrived on time. he got a great tor of atlantis. lcc and metr to the se with the crew. he had a long conversation with them. then he met with the families and talk to some folks along the way. he was extremely supportive of what we were doing. he wished he could have seen the launched to. he promised to support until this to look to a good future. a lot of times we speak of this

transition from space shuttle to the future. it is difficult. to understand it is hard with folks who are losing their jobs. we will focus on doing bigger and better things. we will work on a program that will take as beyond our home planet. unfortunately, the shuttle come to an end. we are going to have a good future as we build a large vehicle and a rocket that will take this down to our home planet. we will make that happen. it is going to work. it will work because of the tremendously talented workforce we have here at the kennedy space center. i think it is great that he came down today. i think family enjoyed the visit.

we will fly when the time is right. >> thank you. plessy. let me back up and starts with an amazing job. less let let me laugh, the weather front was supposed to hits. it did not hit until much later. all that might go into the details. he did an amazing job of getting that done. we had a long time during this this morning. they are doing an amazing job. they have a plan ready to execute as soon as the weather cleaned up. it is a great show of what the team here can do.

we heard the weather briefing. we had a few little things to keep us there. we have did up. we have the heat your problem. basically, this stands for the auxiliary power units. we use it to generate hydraulic power. it has been determined. we use this fluid to throttle the main engines. when you get in orbit, it cannot keep the heater on comet the hydrogen can freeze up. it gets loaded up with a lot.

when it thought, you are worried about the pressure spike. it immediately catches on fire and we would have a problem. both are required for operation. we do have the redundancy. if you did this your last teacher, you and not have time to react. we had this problem. we would have noticed it. the ground control would have evaluated the response. we would have been able to keep it warm. we cannot really maneuver were ever we want to do.

we probably would have burned that system off. we would not have worried about it. it is not an early mission. it would have been ok. had you not caught this, it would have been an ok day. it is a good thing we did catch it. a gives us the opportunity to fix it. it is a pretty straight forward day. they made a very good call. we talked about before the air right amount of time -- for about the right amount of time. you almost get a free orbit checkout. you have that cold hydrogen and oxygen cooling things down.

we wanted to make sure. we did not have anything to do. it is what it means to us. the scheduled for launch on the sixth. the last of the on wednesday the fourth. they look like they are still in good shape. we will keep tabs on them. the pri had to go in the other side, we go back around the eighth are night. those a not very good launch date. -- if we had to go in on the other side, we would go back around the eighth or ninth. those are not very good lunch date. we cannot do it on the same day.

we will probably move it to the ninth or 10th. i will stop talking so we can give you more of the details. >> mike mentioned how well we did tonight. we recovered from the delay. to say it was for our five hours late probably does not sound that much. probably the latest is after taking on time. fred is going purposely fine. when it chill down, the thermostat that controls the he chariton not come off. it did not command the heater to

come on. the term -- the thermostat kicks on. there is not much trouble shooting that we could do what we were still on the load. we have to give back again. this and not work. at that point, and we nearly had a problem with that teacher. we are not sure if it was the thermostat or the heater. we talked for a couple of hours. this was pretty straightforward. we do not like lifting off with that redundancy. >> we declared it at 12:16 today.

texas 24 hours to do the tank. there is a little bit of hydrogen. today poll 24 hours. adobe the first time we can start doing this. we have to get our hands on the fuel line. maybe around him and their time tomorrow we will troubleshoot. it involves taking missed and bring it on the thermostat. it is lower than the temperatures we could have gotten.

could be in the low control assembly. we think we can get in. there is a lot to attend monday morning. we will see how the trouble shooting is going. we will see what has a chance hired overnight -- transpired overnight. that is where we are today. but talked to mark. it is funny the way the timing worked out.

we were not ready yet to scrub. i talked him in there. i told him what was going on and that i understood. today was the are ready to go. we hope to get there by monday. >> thank you. we will take questions not yet. >> two quick questions. first, will you be able to make the first child?

as a navy had a chance to meet a congresswoman gifford and any interactions -- i was just wondering if you had a chance to meet with congresswoman gifford and any interactions you might have had? >> we had a couple of days extra in there to do a little more trouble shooting. we have not given up. every have to change it out, that is a significant deal. >> i did not get a chance to meet with her. i understand she is enjoying her time. she is doing well. >> how quickly did he know this was going to be a showstopper?

ticino there is only a limited number of rigid could go down? >> you never like to give up too early. walworth talking, -- we were talking, but we want to remain fully convinced that we exhausted all possible options. >> one of the things the initial signature look-alike was one element of a heater on a line. if that is the case, the less can keep it mask. we can use the attitude of the .rder to keep appeare

we saw it was the install tires during a people. >> we are right here in front. >> the uses on the other two were working properly. in any of the testing that is done, you work on that one apu only. the others are fine as it stands. >> that is exactly right. >> let's come over here. >> hello. a couple of quick questions. are you tied to a atlantis? will we have a trade-off --

? at that you are saying you had problems with bowstrings the peters. and might confuse some what i heard? >> on the atlantis launch date, and they are not yet directly tied 121. we knew we go to the other side. discovery a weaker to before we ran into problems. this is all behind us. at some point we do start to bump. i know it is not a minute to have problems with the next one. we rolled over their in the endeavors so we can get it done regardless. where most of looking at landing in staying in orbit. i think those were decouple.

there are multiple features on a string at the. -- b. was fine. it is a switch in the cockpit. we were switching to tread the alternate power feet. it was on the ship's side. >> one of these teachers comes on at a higher temperature than the others. we know there is something wrong. one second one comes on at a lower temperature.

the other to do not come on. it is probably a case where the feed is off. we are not sure yet. >> if you had to remove every place it, how many days persius with that tape. i was also wondering if clarify on the unusual terms of the parking lot. it sounds as if that was done so the crews could practice. why exactly did they pull into the parking lot? >> i can talk to them at any point. we just let them start coming out. we give them a few more minutes

to wrap up. knowing where this was going to go -- no one knew where this was going to go. it got to the point where we sit be redone with the discussion. this is the way it turned out. this is going to be a difficult box to changed out. there are a good 48 hours or so of retests. we have to lay out that detail plan. >> anytime you go into the compartment, it is a hazard to make sure you get in and get out. comet access is it going to

require? -- how much access isn't going to require? >> marinell it is on the left side of the ship. we are putting the entry-level staff model on there. we will be able to do all troubleshooting from that location. we are in good shape. >> i was hoping he clarifying the history of this issue as it is happening. >> the recovery schedule did fail. this is where we that our history. we have been doing a starting point.

we've had this failure before. >> we love it into a category. if we are going to check out every one, we would have to go in and actually look at each individual thermostat. is a very intensive thing to do. we check their performance on orbit. we give a full check out. then we consider that checked and ready to go. the last time bystryn was checked, i just lost the date. it was at least two years ago. something obviously opened up between then and now.

>> first, india and of having had multiple failures, we suggest that maybe there was a second one. -- first, instead of having multiple failures, we suggest there may have been a second one. he mentioned the short circuit. >> a kind of depends. the thermostat is running a little low. it actually does function. that would be a quick sellout. it might have an open circuit in it. that would open up the ground. these things are wired together. they share a common ground.

it would pull open that circuit. if you give us a signature. a signal failure could cause this problem. we could be a little bit late. with the launch preparations. we are seeing a shipment. what did the president say