and the taking of land is in many ways the most virulent of these. is not the only piece of it, but it is the piece that is most threatening to the victims. and it tends as a result to be the most important accelerant of insurgent activity in the country. i do not see anything in this society, a political culture or history of afghanistan that says it is inappropriate role for a local government officials to throw people off their land and engage in corrupt real-estate deals that will enable short- term windfalls to the officials involved. i this is potentially reversible if we put sufficient effort into it. >> as we have evolved to this good enough vision of afghanistan that continues to change and i know each of you have talked about how that needs to be defined more fully, when

you spend time as you have, it is almost getting back to the president karzai vision of making accommodations with some of the warlords early on and wanted us to have less troops on the ground. our state department was focused on a western democracy- type situation with the judicial system and all types of things. is the state department in sync with what the military is envisioning as good enough? >> i used to work in the state department. i would characterize history slightly differently. some of the decisions that were made early in the process about focusing on the central

government or international community decisions and enforced through international decisions. i think the state department now is very aligned with what the military is trying to achieve afghanistan primarily for district support teams, the original platforms where you have seniors civilian representatives out in regional command conforming with the state department and the u.s. agency for international development is doing along the outside -- alongside the military. we are looking at a substantial increase in the number of state department offices and u.s. aid offices from roughly 300 to 1200. we have seen the state department working very closely with the military. problem in thehe

political environment lies with our civilian agencies. i think it lies with afghan officials whose interests may be differently allied with ours. -- aligned with ours. >> i think the relationship between the military and civilian agencies has definitely improved our the past two years on this front. organizations like the u.s. agency for international development or oti is working

fairly closely with special forces teams on bottom-up initiatives. this was an international issue for a long time. the military probably moved earliest on this around 2009. most everybody is now on board. the biggest challenge is probably when you get to rural areas of afghanistan, the military footprint is still the largest by far. it civilian agencies are restrained either because of their presence at the embassy in kabul or ed very finite number of reconstruction teens, is the military out in the field that is the one that general -- that executes a lot of these governments, developments, and military missions. that is because they're the only

ones out there on a range of missions. >> a great deal of progress has been made. unity of effort within the military much less across the dimensions of the effort is famously difficult. there are still some important challenges that remain. i think they tend to stem from the underdevelopment of the government side of the campaign plan for the conduct of operations in theater. there are a variety of trails between different parts of what we seek to do in government and development. -- governments development. there is a short-term security benefits and the long-term governance problem. to prioritize and sequence the

resolution we will not simultaneously be able to constrain every malign actor in afghanistan. we need to have a sense of who to start with and in what order to proceed with the others to coordinate that with the state department and other countries that are part of the coalition. that requires a degree of explicit planning that at the moment is still under developed relative to the planning we do for the conduct of security operations in the country. i would like to see the government's side get the degree of detail the development of the security has had for some years. >> i will leave and turn this over to senator shaheen. >> i have one question before closing. as you all were talking about

what a negotiated settlement might look like, one of the things that no one mentioned was what happens to protect the rights of afghan women as part of any kind of settlement and and what should we be doing to make sure those rights are not negotiated away. ? >> the taliban changed their position on the education of women about 12 months ago. the current position is that it is perfectly ok for women to go to school. they want women to work productively and the part of the community but what is not acceptable is for foreigners to come in and tell them how to treat women in their own community. that was probably a tactical shift. it is hard to know whether that meant that or not but it was their response to popular

pressure from the afghan population. one of the things we will see if we get into the negotiation process is that there is now a fairly good body of public opinion in afghanistan in favor of increased freedoms and increased the quality for 50% of afghanistan. i think that will be a factor in any future settlement. all parties will have to take that into account including the taliban whether they need it or not -- whether they mean it or not. >> this is an important issue. it comes down to what is the vision as part of a settlement that the taliban will agree to in moving forward in afghanistan? if it is a vision that is much like the vision in the 1990's with a whole range of issues, the treatment of women which was frankly despicable, its

treatment of general forms of leisure activities like kite- flying, but not think that is in the afghan population interest. on the other hand, their positions are changing at least among some commanders. what is treated as part of a settlement is a different vision than they have laid out in the past. i think that is something that is acceptable. even on the protection of the rights of women, local afghans across the country view this differently. in some areas of very conservative areas of the south, they may view it differently than in more progressive parts of urban afghanistan including kabul. one has to proceed with some caution that we are not pushing

instability into some extremely conservative places too quickly. in much of urban afghanistan, there has been a fundamental change on the protection of the rights of women from 10 years ago when i first walked into kabul, even measuring the percentage of women walking with only a veil or are mostly uncovered verses those who are wearing the full burqa. >> one of the arguments that has been made in favor of a more centralized system in afghanistan is to allow for protections of minority rights and women's rights in ways that may not be favored in the south. if one is going to decentralize in the interests of all line afghanistan, one will allow for the possibility of greater

variance in the way these issues are resolved in localities. in exchange for a degree of acceptance of more conservative behavior in some parts of the south, one could also obtain a greater degree of liberalism among urban communities in parts of the country or attitudes towards women's education are more western than what a national consensus could necessarily secure. as we think about decentralization, it is not a panacea and there are costs involved to the values we care about. it is not an accident that the 2001 bond system and the constitution system are wired together the way they are. we give something up when we abandon that and accept the degree of decentralization. one import protection that can mitigate to the degree of loss that we value as if the system

retains its democratic character as it decentralizes. the parts of afghanistan in which a radical pre-2001 taliban system of women's rights would be prepared -- would be preferred are very few in number. as long as the taliban representation in the afghan government has to compete either for election to a seat or influence over decided policies with others in the afghan public square who are likely to represent true afghan public opinion more accurately, we build in a degree of protection against radical oppression of women and minorities rights. as we decentralize, we will inevitably be moving into an area where we permit a greater degree of variation within afghanistan and the way they make these choices. >> that only works if you have an election or a system of

democracy that actually works and is not corrupt in the wake of elections ultimately work. you don't see this as an issue you would put in the red line category where you put the taking of land? , are we willing to invest to get a better result of tax a better result than a system tremendously rely on brokered deals with local power brokers is a system more reliant on democratic accountability and transparency as a way of controlling local behavior. that will probably be harder to obtain because the divergence between the interests of those who currently hold power in the periphery and that system is greater. in general, when we think long- term results in afghanistan, you get what you pay for, to some extent. the more ambitious an outcome we hold out for, the greater the investment that will be required

of us to obtain it. in many ways, the ideal outcome from the standpoint of the united states is the 2001 bond system if we could find a way to make it work. the level of investment to make it work is be on the -- is beyond the reasonably practical and that alternative is unrealistic. it decentralized democracy is more realistic and require greater investment than the alternative i refer to as internal mixed sovereign state. but if we are unwilling to make the investment to bring about a democratic system, we are stuck with outcomes would like as much per there is inevitably a relationship between our investments and relationships. >> thank you all very much for being willing to stay.

i wish i was here to hear the whole discussion. at this time, i will close the hearing. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011]

[no audio] [no audio] >> the u.s.-channel talks ended yesterday with a number of agreements and new commitments on both sides. we will hear from secretary of state clinton, treasury secretary guy in, and the chinese counterparts next on c- span.

on this morning's "washington journal," will talk with new jersey congressman robert andrews about today's marked. more about that in a moment. will get a preview of the new gingrich plan for the 2012 presidential race. "washington journal"begin said 7:00 eastern. the house is in at 10:00 a.m. eastern and they will debate oil drilling leases on the outer continental shelf. congressman mike rogers who chairs the house intelligence committee will talk about the raid on a sum of been like an's compound last week in the upcoming 10th anniversary of the september 11 terrorist attacks. he will be at the council on foreign relations. live coverage is at 8:00 a.m. eastern on c-span 2. later on c-span 3, the house armed services committee will begin work on defense programs legislation for 2012.

we expect debate on don't ask, don't kill, there is health care, and the f 35 joint strike engine. the market gets underway at 10:00 eastern. u.s. officials said china has agreed to allow u.s. companies greater access to government contracts and u.s. financial firms will now be allowed to sell mutual funds in china. chinese officials say the u.s. has agreed to relax export controls on certain goods and services. these agreements, at the end of the u.s.-china strategic and economic dialogue in washington. this is part of yesterday's talks which includes a news conference.

>> good afternoon, i want to begin by thanking our chinese colleagues and the entire chinese delegation for a productive and comprehensive dialogue between us. along with secretary died near, i also want to thank everyone on the american side, not just those in the state department or treasury but in deed from across our government. the unprecedented level of involvement and the extraordinary work that has taken place since our last meeting in beijing was truly impressive. his strategic and economic dialogue continues to grow broader and deeper. it reflects the complexity and

importance of our bilateral relationship. we have covered a lot of ground together. i am happy to report we have made a lot of progress. the list of agreements and understandings reached is quite long. we have seen concrete progress on a wide range of shared challenges from the energy and environment to international trade and security. for example, there is now a new partnership that will bring u.s. and chinese companies and universities together. those which are developing innovative environmental technologies will now be working with -- working by this nationally with local governments and ngo's to promote sustainable development projects such as next generation

batteries for electric cars and a new clean air and water initiatives. tulane university in new orleans and east china normal university are collaborating to improve the conservation of wetlands. we have seen many other examples. we are also laying the groundwork for potentially significant future collaboration on development from working together to innovate and distribute clean cooko stoves and feels to strengthening public systems and countries. our people to people programs continue to expand, most notably, are 100,000-strong student exchange initiative which has already raised the stated goal of dollars to go along with the very generous chinese government support for

20,000 american students. all of us are committed to increase more people to people interactions and opportunities. we want to translate these two real-world benefits for our citizens, our countries, and the wider world. just as important, although perhaps harder to quantify, are the habits of cooperation and mutual respect that we formed through these discussions. we believe that to keep our relationship on a positive path

as foreseen by presidents obama and hu, the united states and china have to be honest about our differences and address them firmly and forthrightly. at the same time, we are working together to expand the areas where we cooperate and are the areas where we diverge. we are building up a lot more understanding and trust. we discussed everything. whether it was something sensitive to us or sensitive to them, all the difficult issues including human rights. we both have made our concerns very clear to the other. we had candid discussions on some of our most persistent challenges from addressing north korea and iran to rebalancing the global economy. we agreed on the importance of cooperating in afghanistan to

advance common goals of political stability and economic renewal. we established a new u.s.-china consultation on the asia-pacific region where we share a wide range of common interests and challenges. for the first time in these dialogues, senior military and defense leaders from both sides sat down face to face in an effort to further our understanding to develop, trust, and avoid misunderstandings that can lead to dangerous mills calculations. -- miss calculations. this dialogue is a very important step forward. we think it will add immeasurably to our bilateral relationship. as we have discussed these issues and as we have committed to keeping the relationship

moving forward, we have some milestones ahead of us. for the first time, present obama plans to participate in this year's east asia summit. vice president joe biden will travel to china this summer, continuing our discussions on the full range of shared regional and global challenges. he hopes to return the hospitality by welcoming vice president of china to washington at a later date. i look forward to seeing our chinese partners at the osteon regional forum in indonesia and the president and die and the secretary are greatly anticipating the united states hosting apec in hawaii. those are just a few of the highlights. day to day at every level of our government, we are working hard to build that positive,

cooperative, comprehensive relationship that our two presidents have best for. this is the long, hard, un glamorous work of the prompt -- diplomacy. at our plenary sessions yesterday, there was a dizzying an array of issues that we're working on together. i felt very satisfied because that was not the case two years ago. i anticipate that we are going to see further progress because we want to realize the full promise of our partnership. we very fervently hope to leave a more peaceful and prosperous world for our children and our children's children. let me again thank our chinese friends for making this long journey and for working, as we

move forward, and our journey together into the future. i am pleased to turn to my colleague and partner commerce secretary geithner. >> thank you. let me outline the highlights of our discussions on the economic side. we had a very comprehensive discussion about a full range of economic issues between us and facing the global economy. as always, we reviewed the major risks and challenges to growth domestically in china and the united states. we talked about the major risks and challenges on the global economic front. we talked about the investment climate in both countries and energy policies, financial reform, very comprehensive discussions and we benefited from an exceptionally talented and very senior delegation of financial experts, members of

the cabinet, regulatorscabinetetc. our three key objectives were to encourage the ongoing transformation of the chinese economy away from its export desk to find growth model of the past to a more balanced strategy led by domestic demand. we want to encourage china to level the competitive playing field between u.s. and china companies and to strengthen our relationship with china on financial reform issues in both countries. we have made very significant progress on our economic relationship over the past two years. our exports to china reached $110 billion last year and are growing about 50% faster than our exports to the rest of the world. those exports are all the things that americans create and build from agriculture, manufacturing,

services, and advanced technology and support hundreds of thousands of jobs across the united states. overall, we are seeing a promising shifts in the direction of chinese economic policy. on the exchange rate, since last june, the chinese currency has appreciated against the dollar by more than 5%. it is an annual rate of 10% when you take into account the chinese inflation is faster than in the united states. we hope that china moves to allow the exchange rate to appreciate more rapidly and more broadly against the currencies of all its trading partners. this adjustment is critical to china and to manage the risk the capital influences bring to credit and asset markets but also to encourage this broad shift to a strategy led by

domestic demand. china has outlined in its five- year plan, a comprehensive set of reforms to shift its gross strategy away from a line on exports to domestic demand. they have joined with the g-22 putting mechanisms to reduce the risk that we see the emergence of large external imbalances. this process will take. take it will require a sustained effort of reform. it is essential to the future of the health of the global economy and the trajectory of future growth in china. we are seeing progress here, too.

the third area of focus in our discussions is how to create a more level playing field. we have seen some very important steps toward that goal. china committed to making long- term improvements in its high level protection of intellectual property rights enforcement regime, to strengthen the use of software it'll levels of government and this will help protect u.s. innovators as well as chinese innovators in all industries, not just in software. i think that is very important. chan also confirmed that there will -- they will no longer employed -- chart also confirmed that they will no longer employed government preferences for innovative products at any level of government. this is important to make sure that u.s. technology and u.s. firms can compete fairly for business opportunities in china. china is committed to increase

transparency. this is so all u.s. firms and foreign firms have a chance to see the regulations in draft and have the opportunity for input. china and united states recognized the importance of transparency and fairness in export credit policies and have agreed to undertake discussions on exports -- on the terms of our respective export policies. china is the largest provider of export credit in the world. finally, we have been discussing the important objective of how to make sure that companies in china that compete are not put a broader ed -- disadvantage. we discussed the ongoing chinese financial reforms to create a more flexible and dynamic financial system.

these reforms are designed to increase the returns to savers, to further develop the chinese equity and bond markets and to expand opportunities for foreign financial institutions in china are very important. they are very promising. it is not just important in creating expansion for u.s. companies but making a broad shift in chinese strategy led by domestic demand. when president hu visited washington in january, president obama described the evolution of our relationship as a healthy competition that spurred both countries to innovate and become more competitive. as china faces significant economic challenges at home, we have our challenges in the united states. we are working very hard to repair the damage of the financial crisis and to make sure that as we restore fiscal sustainability and return to

living within our means, we want to preserve the capacity to invest in things that will be critical to the future strength of the american economy. based on the strength of our conversations and the strength of this emerging relationship, this economic relationship with china will continue to grow, continued to deepen, and continue to provide tremendous opportunities for both nations. you see today concrete, tangible signs of progress on both sides that _ that commitment of both our presidents. i want to thank the delegations on both sides. they brought a directness and candor and frank the greater openness than we have seen in the last two years and that is very welcome. i want to express my gratitude for the vice premier for his leadership in these discussions and complimenting for the changes he has been able to

bring about. thank you very much. >> [speaking chinese] >> thanks to the joint endeavor of the both sides, the strategic and economic dialogue have been a great success. the essential mission is to implement the important agreements reached between the two presidents. and to implement the building of china-u.s. mutually beneficial economic partnership. we had in that discussion surrounding issues in cooperation and addressed a host of outcomes. secretary geithner and i signed

an agreement about economic cooperation. the two countries will carry out expanded and closer economic cooperation. we agreed that in the complex economic environment today, our two nations should further step up macroeconomic policy coordination and communication and contribute to a sound economic growth in both countries. we discussed the implications of european sovereign debt, the nuclear disaster triggered in japan and the turbulence in the middle east. we highlighted the international community should work together to ensure a strong and sustainable world recovery to have a reform of international strategy and gradually build a fair and reasonable international economic order. the two sides agree that in a transformation of our

respective models and economic restructuring, we will use respective strengths and expand cooperation. we will expand by-national cooperation. we highlight our commitment to deal with trade and investment. the united states will give china fair treatment and will consult through the jcct. the two sides will strengthen cooperation in bilateral investment treaty negotiations. food, safety, and product equality discussions will

continue there will be no trade protectionism. we agree to information sharing regarding regulation of systemically important financial institutions, shuttle banking, business credit rating agencies, the reform of the emirate -- remunerations policy and to join in advance enter national reform. united states welcomes chinese financial institutions and recognizes china's enormous progress. the united states will further enforce strong supervision of government-sponsored presence and make sure they have enough capital to fuel -- to fulfill financial obligations. in the economic dialogue, we increased the mutual understanding.

this will give a strong boost to the growth of the china-u.s. comprehensive partnership based on mutual respect and mutual benefit. i thank you everyone and i would like to thank secretary geithner and secretary clinton and the u.s. team for all the work you have done for a successful economic dialogue, thank you. >> [speaking chinese] it is a great pleasure to meet with you once again. the china test u.s. strategic and economic dialogue have already completed its third round. for each and every round, we invite friends from the media to come here to drop a successful conclusion. this round of dialogue was held

as president hu jintao had a successful visit to the u.s. earlier this year where the two sides agreed to build a china- u.s. partnership based on mutual respect and benefit. i want to tell you the following -- first on the strategic track, secretary clinton and i focused on the agreement of our two leaders and exchanged views on how to look at a partnership based on mutual respect and mutual benefit to. we had an in-depth practical exchange of views. our dialogue covered many issues including china-u.s. financial relations, major issues internationally and regionally, and we had a good conversation.

we agreed that we must act in accordance with the u.s.-china joint statement, or to increase our mutual trust, have exchanges at higher levels, have closer dialogue on international and regional issues and increase our people to people exchange. we have an outcome list which covers energy, environment, transport, forestry, and climate change cooperation. we had a good conversation. i did not mean that we agreed on each and every issue. however, after each round of dialogue, we successfully expanded our mutual understanding and increase their mutual trust.

this has added to our confidence in our bilateral relations in the future. both of us agreed that we must increase our strategic mutual trust and deepen our practical cooperation. the u.s. reaffirmed that they welcome a strong, successful, and prosperous china that plays a greater role in international affairs and it does not seek to contain -- contain china and respects china's interests and both sides increase to their commitment to the road of peaceful development. a china-u.s. strategic dialogue is a very important outcome of this dialogue. we agreed to hold this dialogue within the framework of the

strategic dialogue and held its first round of meetings this morning. the dialogue will continue to be held in the future. we will make a pie of our common interest to bigger and more tasteful. sadly, we agreed that we will work together in the asia- pacific region so we can better coordinate and interact with each other in that area. we agreed that the asia-pacific is broad enough to accommodate the u.s. and china. we must work together in this region and work together with other countries in this region to of all peace, stability, and to promote the extended prosperity of the asia-pacific and achieve the common development of all countries in

this region said that the pacific ocean will become ace peaceful one. we agreed we set up a mechanism for the specific region. fourthly, we both agree we must work globally and respond to international and domestic challenges. there has been a new and important changes in the international situation recently. there are two influential countries in the u.s. and china. it is important that we have more consultation, coordination, and cooperation in order to promote and safeguard peace, stability, and the prosperity of the world. i wish to tell our friends from the media that the strategic and economic dialogue, since its inception, has played an important role.

china is ready to work with the u.s. side to further grow and make good use of this mechanism. we are open to the good suggestions from the friends of the media. to conclude, i would like to thank secretary clinton and geithner as well as colleagues from the u.s. and china for your hard work to insure the success of this round of dialogue. i want to thank the u.s. side for your arrangements and thank you friends from the media for your interest in this dialogue.

i am looking forward to seeing you again in beijing next year and continuing the dialogue, thank you. [applause] [no audio] >> at the end of the conference yesterday, secretary of state colin tennant, tim geithner and their chinese counterparts spoke to reporters. [no audio]

>> secretaries clinton and geithner to our here to respond to your questions. >> secretary clinton, do you think the lessons in the middle east of fact china -- in effect china and did discuss this with your chinese counterparts? >> let me say that we did discuss the events occurring in the middle east in north africa. we exchanged impressions and use -- and views about how individual nations as well as

the region is moving and the pressures for a transition and changes and political and economic reform. every nation in every region is different. i think it is very difficult to draw any overall conclusions. in my discussions, i pointed out 2002, thereg in were a series of reports done by our experts about the developments -- done by our experts about that region and how it had not kept up his with the rest of the world. , particularly asia. there was a lot of exchange of ideas but i don't think you can

draw and a specific conclusions other than to \ /sauy that the united states reports -- supports the aspirations that the people in the middle east and north africa have expressed for more freedom, more opportunity, for a better future, for themselves and their families and we will continue to support the people of the region as they try to realize those aspirations during this transition. >> second question? >> secretary clinton, i appreciate the opportunity. for the chinese side, its government has always stated it is sticking to a policy and will continue to stick to a policy of a peaceful development.

as we all know, the real purpose of this dialogue for the purpose of any dialogue, is to enhance mutual understanding and mutual trust. when this round of dialogue concluded today, could we say that the u.s. side now has a better understanding and better recognition of the chinese the strategic intent? thank you. >> thank you for the question. i agree with you that the purpose of that dialogue is to enhance mutual understanding and mutual trust in the other. i think we have made quite a bit of progress in the last three dialogues. this is a work in progress. for both of our nation's with such different histories,

cultures, experiences, development models, political systems, it is important that we continue intensive consultation. as both of us have said, we do not expect to find agreement on every issue. we know that we approach some of the sensitive matters from a very different perspective. i do think it is fair to say that we have a deeper understanding of the viewpoint of the other. i think we have had such an open dialogue on every issue that we have built trust because we are not keeping any issue under the table or off the agenda. we are talking about the hard

issues. we are developing these habits of cooperation across our government. in addition, this is not just a test for government. we are placing great emphasis on our people to people, our business to business contacts and experience as. s. i was delighted at the lunch we hosted for a group of american and chinese business leaders, that they had some of the same comments, even the same complaints about their un and other government interference with being able to maximize their business opportunities. i think we're reaching a much better understanding. i think that is one of the principal purposes of the dialogue. >> the third question? >> secretary geithner, the

economic issues seem to be going industry by industry. are you challenging the core logic of indigenous innovation and if so, what is their response? are you satisfied to battle it out policy by policy? >> we generally try not to do this sector by sector. our approach has been to look at the basic design of policy across the chinese economy. we might see a potential risk for that policy putting foreign innovators at a disadvantage, we then encouraged china to change those policies and try to pursue their objective of encouraging the development of chinese tech on old -- technologies through other means. our general purpose is to, the

policy on the highest level. we think that has the most effect. we still have very different economic systems. we have very different traditions of approaching economic policy. john that still has a largely state-dominated economy and the government plays -- china still has a large state-dominated economy and the government still plays a larger role. china is at the early stages even with all the reforms of the last 30 years of making the transition to an economy where the best technology wins and the market competition is the driving force in allocating capital. they recognize that china will be stronger in the future. they would have to increase the incentives in china and allow for any note -- a more neutral competition. that is a fundamentally healthy

recognition. i think you are seeing china move in that direction we think it is very promising. we are very confident we will see substantial ongoing improvement in the opportunities that american companies have in the chinese market, both american companies operating in china and other companies that are building things in the united states. >> our last question? >> i have a question for secretary geithner. [inaudible] you had dinner with some chinese entrepreneurs.

they're interested in investing in the united states. will the united states tried to trade more equally? [unintelligible] >> that was an important part of our conversation. we welcome chinese investment in the united states. i am confident that if you look over the next several years, you'll see chinese investment in the united states continued to expand very rapidly. that will be good for the united states, good for china and that is driven by the desire of chinese companies to have more access to u.s. technology and try to expend the opportunities in this market. we welcome that. where have they opened test non discriminatory regime.

we treat chinese companies and chinese investment like we treat investment from any other country. we will continue to make sure we preserve that open investment policy because it is important to the basic strength and dynamism of the united states. to be fair, we also discussed the china investment regime. they scream and limit foreign investment from the united states. they recognize -- expanding optimism the u.s., is important that the chinese investment regime is more restrictive with a more careful management and has more limitations on the ability of foreign firms to invest and purchase stakes in chinese companies that that is changing, too. it is in chinese interest for that to change over time and will continue to look for concrete areas where we can reassure investors in both areas that they will face more

opportunities on the investment side in china and the united states parent >> that is unfortunately all the time we have this afternoon but we appreciate your participation, thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> this morning, the house armed services committee will begin work on defense programs and policy for 2012. we expect debate on don't ask, don't tell, veterans health care, and the f-35 strike fighter project. the committee will and forced the earmark them and that gets underway at 10:00 eastern on cspan 3. >> let me be as clear as i can

be. without a significant spending cuts and changes in the way we spend the american people's money, there will be no increase in the debt limit. >> follow the debate on the debt ceiling as lawmakers continued to work on economic issues including government spending, taxes, and the deficit on line at the cspan video library. you could watch every event recovered through -- from 1987 through today. >> coming up, "washington journal." the houses and at 10:00 a.m. eastern and will debate oil drilling leases on the outer continental shelf. like cows coverage is here on c- span. -- live house coverage is here on c-span. coming up and 45 minutes, new jersey congressman robert andrews will talk about military strategy in afghanistan and iraq. iraq.