[applause] >> i am dan hurley. thank you for bringing the clock. i spent my career working in the technology transfer field. can i get your opinion of what is going on at g e? to me, it is not a good thing. >> all the people in the room who thinks our trade policies with china make sense, please raise your hands. that is what i thought. we have watched year after year as china has manipulated the currency to artificially hold down the prices of all goods and services coming from china. that has helped them here and abroad. it has hurt us here and hurt us in operations abroad. it made them more competitive and has a hollowed out, in some cases, manufacturing.

what else have they done? they steal our patents, our designs. they have not -- under our system of protecting intellectual property. when we sell an airplane, it is not just the steel and labor, as important as they are, it is also the know-how that went into building the aircraft and designing it. they steal listings routinely. in china they are selling microsoft software on the streets for a couple of bucks. they are selling hollywood movies for less than that. that is our intellectual property. they are stealing those things. as they steal those things, we lose the revenue and they go out and sell them to others. then, of course, they are hacking into our computer systems. doing it to corporations and taking technology. going into our government and department of defense to steal technology and know-how. it is unacceptable. the president said he would

take china to the mat. i have not noticed that happening yet. if i am president, and i will announce this in september, i will be very clear which side about the consequences of their manipulative currency, other stealing our intellectual property. the consequences are the not enjoy the open access to our markets they had enjoyed in the past. thank you. [applause] >> nice to see you. >> thank you. >> i have a little problem. i do not know if i know what i am talking about. i had a business i started myself. i paid all my employees 15% of their salary and their health insurance. now that i am retired, we had the government cutting pension plans.

some of my tax dollars, i am sure, are going to pay some of those pensions. i find it disagreeable that i have to take money out of my savings. maybe you can explain that. on a lighter note, this is what i would like to have you do. i would like you to get my 401k growing as fast as that debt. >> your 401k is moving as fast that debt, just in the wrong direction, it is so afraid. direction, it is so afraid. [applause] you are talking about support for feral employee pensions. clearly people who work in government deserve a fair wage, compensation, and a fair retirement program, and fair benefits. at the same time, we have too

many people working in the federal government. that number should bemall. it does not mean we have to slash employment, but as people retire, we do not have to fill those positions. secondly, people who work for government should get as good a deal as the taxpayers get. the compensation of people in the government should be similar to the compensation that exist in the private sector. the benefits should be the same as well. the people who work for government should not get a better deal than the people who are paying the wages, namely, the taxpayers. i appreciate the work of federal employees and government workers, but i want to make sure their deal is comparable to that of the people that is paying for it. if those numbers get out of whack, and you are seeing them in some state -- even imy home state of massachusetts they are saying there are some things that are out of control and we cannot have collective bargaining anymore because it is out of line. we are going to get to be honest

with faults and not keeping for things we cannot afford. that is what leads to the plot doing what it is doing back there. i support efforts to be honest with people and make sure we have for government employees a fair deal, but not a better deal than the rest of us get. thank you. other questions? yes, sir. >> i am fromarrington. if we had had success through history, we are in a much different world than we are today. with your background and your level of success, recognizing that the probability is that when you take office you are going to have to deal with an economy that is virtually at a standstill, such as it is today, are there any things tt you would do differently than

this nonsense that we sa exhibited in washington in recent weeks and months? in other words, is the system broken or is it the people are not listening? how would you attack this with your expertise? >> you are talking about the debt ceiling. when you talk about nonsense in washington, it is a long list of possibilities k. [laughter] i know there are people that ay, whity didn't republic since agreed to raise taxes a little bit? there is a reason that people were for a proposal that would cap federal spending so it could not grow faster than the federal government.

government is too big. let me describe what too big is. when john f. knedy was president, government at all levels, federal, state, local, consumed about 20% of our economy, about 1/4 of our economy. today, it consumes 37%. and it is headed towards 40% of the economy. we are inches away from no longer being a free economy. instead, being a government- dominated nation. a lot of us looked and said 37% is too much. you're spending is too much. we will not give in to give you more money to allow you to get even betigger. politicians in washington and in some states like california -- california has the highest tax rate in the nation. i think it is the most expensive state from an income tax standpoint in the nation. they must have a balanced budget, right?

no, they spent all that money and then some. to give politicians more money and higher taxes, they will spend that and keep barring more. the right answer -- there are a lot of people that disagree with me. last night, and was at an event in lebanon, new hampshire. she said, governor why it should do say that we should only spend what we take in? whynot keep on borrowing? there are people that agree with you. i am not one of them. i will do everything by growing th economy and getting people paying taxes because they have jobs and cutting that off scale of the federal government. if wead a president that is a leader. the president -- i like him. hearing him, he gives great speeches. what he said when he was campaigning about bringing the nation together, that was very inspiring. he did not do it, but he said it. but he hasn't bn a leader.

a real - it's been disappointment. he is not a >> live, local, and la-breaking, presence apaa president. he's a ddd president. debt, downgrade, and the lake. we keep talking about making sure that social security and medicare are preserved, not just for current retirees but for the young people. the president says if something should be done. republicans put ideas out and the democrats a demagogue them. where are the president's ideas? whereas leadership? what will he do about that leadership? where is it? he's in nantucket, playing golf. it is ti for a leader to step forward. i intend to be one of them. we will get the job done and get america working again and stop the clock. thank you. [applause]

>> hello. i had the pleasure of meeting you up the street here not too long ago. we talked little bit about the family. if the success o the society is the dependence on the strength of the family. it is my opinion that we he the focus wrong. we need to focus on family first, not all of these other issues. the product of the family is the next generation. if the next generation is to be better than t last, wch i hold to be a unersal truth about the world, that all mothers with like the best for their kids in the future, then we need to focus on the american family. and i ask you to make a pledge to make the family a cornerstone of your campaign going forward, i think it is by far and above the greatest issue we have in the country. if we can fix that and get a parent home during child-bearing years to raise the children with the code that they can live by

and take into kindergarten and know what is right and wrong, what is fair, what is moral, what is ethical, what breeds character and integrity, then we are on a path to turn this country around. there is no question in my mind collectively be cannot do it. it is not an issue. the fact of the matter is, we have to get together as a family. if i can make my pitch one more time to you and say, let's make a cornerstone of this campaign, because you can do it. you have a wonderful family, and people here have wonderful families. by the way, my name is bob lynch. andhe family is the answer to this. if we can make that the cornerstone of this campaign, we can certainly work on these other trivial issues that we can get straightened out with a wonderful group of americans who are ready do it tomorrow. >> my guess is you came from a good family. >> i did. >> tell me about your family. >> my father krupp in delaware,

and at 11 years old, he walked off of his home during a depression enter the keys on the ground and walked away from everything the family had. that stuck with him. and got a leighigh degree in economics. he committed in and out of new york city his entire life. that is one of the reasons i live in new hampshire. my mother was at home with us every day. i learned a great deal from her, and i love her dearly to this day. those values mean more to me than anything else we have spoken about here. and with family, with friends, with neighborhoods, with communities, with states and a government working together, we can take care of this country in a heartbeat. we can take care of this world. i would proclaim that we need a goal, may be a dam first. maybe not martin luther's but we need a drink heard from the goals, from tt come the

objectives. if everybody in the world wants to make the world a better place, we can do that. i would be happy to come to work with you and help you out. it is for most of my mind. >> apparently so. >> i am watching -- writing a book carried it is called "guard rails, god and santa claus." >> important topic, critical topic. what i inherited from my parents was a set of values. a lot of this country, understanding of character. -- a love of this coury. i was taught that self-esteem was earned. it did not come because i had a teacher that said, you should love yourself. i learned it -- i learned you had to work hard and achieve something, whether it is sports or school. my oldest son, i hope i can remember exactly what this was. my oldest son and his high school on prized it was given

the prize. this was at graduation. i do not remember which you're at school he was cured he was in k-12, but he was in high school. an uprising got was this -- for his unselfish concern for others. >> i could not have been more proud. character is a big part of what do self-esteem. so i love families that are able to teach kids values and principles that lift their life. i like the fact that buy large we recognize that a home has a mom and dad, d if you want to have a child, it is a good idea to get married first. [applause] my wife taught as a volunteer at the mother caroline academy in boston. is populated with at risks girls. one day, she said, how many

of you would like to go to college? almost all of their hands went up. then she said, how many expect to have a baby before you graduate from high school. almost all their hands went up. and she said, you probably cannot do both. and they were surprised. people had not told them that yet. we need to teach our kids there is an advantage to getting married and having two people share their resources. a lot of people did not have the hasrivilege -- there been divorce or death. but where there is a possibility, get married, have children, raise children, make that your highest priority. the most important thi that happened in my home, that which gives me the greatest satisfaction in life, is what my wife did in raising our five sons. i remember when my wife and i were young marrieds, and we were talking to my dad, i think he was 80 at the time.

my dad had been a person of great accomplishment, both in business and in government. and he was famous in his era. and we turned to my dad and said, what has been the most important thing in my life? he said, without question, that which gives me the greest joy in life is what your mother did in raising our children. there is nothing like kids -- except grandkids, they are a little better. i want to tell you, if i am elected president, my wife and i will work very harto teach our kids, not just my own five sons and their children, ofhich there are 16, but also to teach other kids in america the benefits of marriage and coming together. i want to make sure our programs at the federal level do not discourage marriage. if we have programs that say we will give you money, welfare, if you are single with a child, but you -- if you are married with a child, then we will not. if you do not g married, then

you do not have our responsibility to care for that child. these mistakes lead to people deciding that in some cases it does not make sense to get married. we have to make sure we do not create disincentives for marriage, but create a model, speak about it, and make sure our programs encourage people to form families that have kids. you and i are on the same page on that. i want to see your book. yes, ma'am. >> hi. this is falling on the question about values. i was raised by two physicians, and i come up early on, learned the importance of us being healthy in our lives. and i spent the last year working in kenya and uganda, working with people living with hiv who loved me because i was american and american help them get access to drugs. i am a medical student. i read a study that showed that there was a 96% reduction in transmission when people are on hiv drugs. so that means they can have

healthy anproductive lives. and they will not transmit the virus to their partners. i was really proud of president bush in 2003 when he started the president's emergency plan for aids relief. and i have been disappointed with president obamaho said that he was going to continue that program and has not funded at the levels that he pledged to. so i am wondering if you become the president, which i am hoping that we are starting a movement here in new hampshire, will you commit to being a president deccan and aids, another we know that there is a 96% reduction in transmission for this virus? because i think it is very important that america maintains the moral and ethical standard, even though we're fighting this deficit stuff. there are certain things we can cut more easily and more morally than other things. and i do not think the aids

program is something. anay, i am wondering if he will commit to being a president that can end aids. >> we do a lot of wonderful things to encourage humanitarian aid around the world and to help other nations. and i applaud that effort. by and large, i look for that ever to be done on a charitable bases by the american people, meeting by people making contributions to those things that make a difference and by president matching funding or encouraging. there are some of tsunami disasters and so forth, where america's contributions are really wonderful and marvelous. in some cases, our contributions to the world held our interest and keep america in a more positive light in the world. so you have to look at each of the things we do in light of those benefits. but i also want to say this, in some cases, as we give humanitarian aid or foreign aid to other nations, but iay, gosh, we're borrong money from china and giving it over here

and we have to pay back china. why don't we get china to make a contribution? why are we borrowing money from them to help someone else? [applae] we are a generous and charitable people, but at the same time, i did not look for our government to decide where we will apply are cheered. i look for our people to do that person by person. that is my preference. i will look at what the president is spending, but i am expecting those nations that are running huge surpluses for them to pick up the burdens of the world, as opsed to always looking to america. we as citizens will do it. we will support those things we think make a real difference. we will support those things that help our image and our values around the world, but i am going to be putting a little bit of pressure on other people

to pick up the slack. thank you. hi. [applause] >> hi,. i live in dover. 'm an educator. i'm a mom. i am curious about preparing our students with 21st century skills, getting ready for college and beyond. i was wondering if he could talk more about that. >> absolutely. let me tell you what things i've learned about education. when i came in as a governor, i wanted our schools to keep doing well so i met with people in our education department. they said, smaller class sizes would make our schools better. i said, that is expensive. or construction, hiring more teachers. what does the data show? well, we have 351 cities and towns. so we knowr kids,

which kids in which towns are doing the best. and we know the average class from size. so we can compare classicize with how the kids are doing. so we plotted thatut. there was no relationship at all. as a matter of fact, the school districts that spent the most per student and with the smallest cluster size, a cambridge, their kids were performing in the bottom 10% of kids in our state. i looked at studies done by people who fall education, like the mackenzie institute, and they looked as schools around the world. th said classicize is not predict how well kids will do. they said spending does not predict terribly well how kids will do. overwhelmingly, what predicts how well the kids will do is their home, their parents, and the quality of the teacher. [applause] and those nations which are

excelling in education are those nations which say, we are going to try and hire our teachers from among the very best performers, the top 5%-10%. too often in america, we do not do that. i would like to hire the best do this. i would like to pay higher starting salaries for teachers. i would like teachers to be promoted not based upon tenure but based upon how well they do with kids. [applause] kids -- our best achers not to aspire to become administrators, but to continue to teach and to the promotion within the teaching ranks. andme, it's about teachers incurred in the quality education at the teacher level. we did some other things. when i say we, i am talking about my predecessors in massachusetts as well as myself.

they decided that to graduate from a massachusetts high school, you have to pass a graduation exam. and that's kind of a stick. i put a carrot in place. i said, if you take the exam and your score in the top 25% of your high school class, we will grant you a four-year tuition free ride to any massachusetts public institution of higher learning. we call the the john and abigail adams scholarship. we created incentives for kids to get a scholarship. probably know how well massachusetts schools are doing. there are four measures for testing how schools are doing. fourth and eighth graders are tested every two years in english and math. my fourth graders came out number 1 in the nation and number one in math. my eighth graders came on number one in english andumber one and math on all four measures.

for the policy of choosing great teachers, of having accountability and standards and providing incentives for people to perform, those things work in education li everything else. so congratulations on being an educator. i want to make your job easier. i did not mention school choice. we of school choice in my state. 50 charter schools. i like choice in education. i like parents being able to choose the school where they think the child will do best. i want to provide that for more of our kids. thank you. [applause] >> first of all, thank you for being here. to follow on the education question, i agree with so much of what you are saying and it is a very exciting to hear as a teacher myself. does federal government played a role in the process, and what would you do when you are elected? the idea of the

federal government trying to run schools. i think schools should be run at the state and localevel. of course, the federal government sends a lot of money out. and in sending that money out, it could encourage school choice, cyber learning, better compensation for teachers. there are things it could encourage. and so what role it will play has to be carefully measured. for instance, in my state, my predecessors devise a curriculum. we have a statewide curriculum. and the kids are tested according to the curriculum. i think it is working pretty well. if the federal government said, we like the massachusetts curriculum and mandate that all states use the curriculum, i would say absolutely not. that violates the constitution. it violates my impression of what this nation is founded upon

-- individual liberty and states' rights. i'm very reticent to have the federal government pls its heavy hand in education. encourage good practices and share those, make sure the money is spent well, yes, but schools should brun at the local level by parents, teachers, and not by teachers unions, by the way. we ought to put the teachers and the kids first. yes, sir? i'll give you this one. and'm the father of 2 kids, i am very concerned about their future. in june you said, i think it is important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants in greenhouse gases that y be contributors to the climate change and global warming. yesterday said about global warming, i do not know if it is mostly caused by humans. now i'll quote from the national

academy of sciences on climate change. so theories have been so thoroughly examined and supported by so many independent observations and results of that the likelihood of subsequently been found wrong is a vanishingly small. ken such conclusions and theories are regarded as facts. this is the case for the conclusion that the earth's system is warming and much of the warming is largely due to human activity. my two questions. is the national academy of science reliable? if not, what do you use for your source? secondly, do you continue to support reductions in greenhouse gas emissions as in your book "no apology," through revenue neutral carbon tax or payroll tax cuts? >> payroll tax cut?

let's come back. let me tell you what i believe about the environment. by the way, my book lays out. the nice thing about writing book is that it is all right there. so i will give you an answer in a couple of minutes. but if you are interested in digging into it, you can read what i wrote. i wrote a chapter about energy andlimate. so i will give you a summary. let me tell you what it is. i think the earth is getting warmer. i know this room is. [laughter] [applause] i think humans contribute to that. i do not know by how much. could be a little, could be a lot. i do not know by how much. so i am not willing on that basis to say, let's spend trillions of dollars trying to stop, in america, the emissions of co2. so what it leads me to is an energy policy that some call, and no regrets policy, meaning he would take action you would take any way that has the byproduct of reducing co2.

so i would take as my energy policy, not a cap and trade approach, i oppose cap and trade. i would not put in place a gas tax or carbon tax. what i would do is to follow policies that get america energy secure and energy independence of the cartels. what are those policies? use more natural gas. we have in abundance. we have learned how to drill not just vertically but horizontals and to capture all sorts of naral gas. we have hundreds of years of it. natural gas emits less co2 than coal. if we use natural gas, we not only free ourselves of foreign sources of energy, but would also reduce our co2. i like nuclear power. when we build our nuclear power plan, we should not put the diesel resurgent backup level at fault lines.

i would like to see just drilling for oil, find technology from cln coal. and so i want to use the resources. i want to e more efficiency. these things will get is on track to become energy independent and secure. as a byproduct, tehyhey reduce co2. it can't hurt. i am not a scientist. i cannot tell you how much of the warm and i think we are experiencing is caused by human beings. it may be a lot, it may be a little, but again, my policy is not to impose trillions of dollars of additional costs and job-killing measures like cap and trade and carbon taxes on the american people. that is my view. thank you. [applause] thank you. i'm told i get one more question, then you guys get to

go home and watch what ever is on thursday night. what is it? the red sox. we're one game up. i have to tell you a quick story. i was speaking at the citadel, and that is a school in south carolina, military college. all the cadets sitting at attention. th look like they're were sitting at attention. i was telling jokes as i was getting my speech. when i tl a joke, there will look at the end of the aisle, they would not laugh. then i took questions from the audience. very prepared, sophisticated questions. then someone stood up and said, what you think about johnny damon have been traded from the red sox to the yankees? and everyone turned to see would ask such an important question. and i said, it proves only one thing -- we all hate yankees. that got a laugh. please. >> i'm eleanor.

if you become president, i would like to know what you do about the 12-20 million illegal immigrants in this country who are contributing to that? [applause] >> thank you. good question. it's an important question. a little story. i think it was four years ago, i was in san diego at the border with mexico. we have a big fence there, two fences, separated by a couple hundred yards. i was there with border patrol agents. i said, the people across in this area today? about 100. even with those fences. how d they do it? they come in groups. they are sitting across the border with binoculars and a watch and see where we are is agents. the storm across. they make letters of -- out of rebarb. they'll throw a ladder across,

and then there into the shopping mall across the street before we can get them. i said, how are going to stop the flow of illegal aliens into the country? he said, secure the border with a fence and border patrol agents of an adequate number. and turn off the magnet. i said, what magnet? he said jobs. where u.s. employers hire people they know are illegal and put them in jobs in the u.s. that is why they come across in large numbers. you want to secure the border with a fence and turning off the magnet. we do all sorts of things. we have cities in america that call themselves sanctuaries cities. we communicate to people who want to come here illegally that if they can find a way here, if they overstay their visas or come across the border illegally, they can go to that city and they do not have to worry. it is unbelievable. when i wasovernor, the legislature passed a bill saying that we should give to the children of illegal immigrants and in state tuition break.

now, there are -- their r. demint, they said the kids have not done anythingrong. and did their argument, they said t kids have not done anything wrong. the crate a bigger magnet, people come here for their kids. i understand that. if you come here illegally, that draws more people here illegally. if we want to secure the border -- a fence and crack down on employers that hire people illegally. i would give folks that come here legally upcard, their visa number. employers would be able to check that against a federal database. if they have someone without a valid identification card, because they are here illegally, and they hire them anyway, then we crack down them w- on them with fines orw worse. we love legal immigration here.

will people who come here legally. i would like to bring in people with skill and experience. i would like us to have enough so the people the skills that we need to come here. i like legal immigration. i do not want to stop illegal immigration. i welcome the cultures and the experience that comes from people from other lands, but i want to stop this president came in and said he was going to do all these things about immigration and made all these promises. for the first two years, he had a democrat house, democrat senate, and a democrat white house. what did he do? nothing. he waits until the election year and then starts bringing this up. why did he not deal with this when he had the ability to do whatever he wanted? he would rather make it a political issue than a practical

solution. if i am president, i will take on this issue, secure our borders, and make sure that our legal immigration system works for the american people. thank you. i appreciate the question. [applause] let me just close with this. i know it has become increasingly commofor people to be concerned about the future. we face extraordinary challenges. that is one of them. $131,000 per taxpayer. by the way, who promises the government has made that are not funded. obamacare, medicare, social security, medicaid, unfunded promises in addition to another $62 trillion. the cost of those unfunded promises per household in america, according to usa today, is $532,000.

we face challenges. that debt, those unfunded promises. we faced radical violent jihad who want to kill us. china, becoming the new global power. iran, on the verge of becoming a nuclear por. face extraordinary challenges, but i happen to be convinced that america has a brighter future even than our past. why that? we are innovat, hard-working people. we are patriotic people. we love america. we place our hand over our heart during the playing of the national anthem. no other people i the world do that. fdr began that tradition in honor of the lives that were being lost in foreign places. he asked us to place our hand over our hard during the playing of the national anthem. i am convinced that based on our

patriotism and skill that we have leaders that will tell us the truth and live with integrity and who actually know how to lead, that america will rise to the occasn, remain the economic engine that has always been, and remaithe hope of the earth that got indians for this great land. thanks so much. -- that got intends --that god intends for this great land. [applause] >> very nice to meet you. >> i have met you before, haven't i? i am going to be in birmingham on the 30th. >> i appreciate that.

>> how are you? thanks for the. -- thanks for the help. >> what kind of business are you starting? good luck to you. thank you.

>> the know this guy here? do -- you know this guy here? we need to get a leader. thank you, great to be here.

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>> look at that. this is a blue pen so i can only sign it up there. that is a funny looking dude. oh, my goodness. you have notes. places to visit. wonderful. thank you. >> my son is a meteorologist.

he knows people who say that global warming is not necessarily man-made. >> i appreciate that. how are you? >> can we get a picture together? >> to you work here? are you going to school? >> utica.

>> and do you know this guy? >> i am a mom. -- the mom. >> a good to meet you. >> governor, it is a pleasure. >> in my view is cut the waste, use the resources we have.

continue to strengthen our air force fleet. strengthen our military and care for the veterans. hi, how are you? you guys know each other? >> this is my brother.

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>> are you moving permanently? congratulations. you are an empty-nester now. >> thank you so much. >> i enjoyed it a lot. you are amazing. >> thank you.

is this your daughter? there we go. >> thank you so much. [inaudible]

>> we have to run up here. we appreciate you being here this evening. is a little warm. what is particularly alarming is held back the clock is having to move. it is simply unacceptable r the american people and particarly for children to be saddled with the debt of the scale that this administration is putting in place. four trillion dollars from this administration and the president is on track to break all records of any president in american history. with that, i would be happy to take any questions you may have. >> last month you said you were

disturbed that obama talked about moving gaddafi. >> not in terms of removing him but providing an air cap. i have said the same thing time and time again. number one, the first oxidant -- the first option should be to talk to gaddafi ordered the state department and indicate if he attacksis people, we will come after him in a major way. he will know the source of america. that hopefully would have kept him from doing anything to his people and would not have resulted in the military action having to have happen. the number two option was the humanitarian issue. that is the mission i supported. no. 3 was the mission -- removal of the regime, and that is the

mission not like to have the president explained, what our objectives are going to be, what role we are going to have down theoad, how that will prevent libya from becoming worse than it was under gaddafi, and that is possible. he chose the last option. [unintelligible] >> i don't think you have to necessarily be specific when you talk to him on the phone. you say you attack your people, we are going to come after you. the old teddy roosevelt saying, speaks softly and carry a big stick. instead of waiting for the revolution to repair arrive and then being drawn into an effort to protect the libyan people. >> you talk about spending on education and looking closely into the data.

you al talk about the thin spending as something that needs to be twice as large as china or russia. why not aly that same sort of approach to how much we spend on defense? >> i will look at the defense budget very carefully and look at the weapons systems we have and the amount of waste that is there. the statistics i have seen suggest we could do a lot better with the money we are spending. what secretary gates indicated, it shows there is a lot of spending that is not necessary. i don't want to count on that money to pay for social programs. my expectation is we will use those funds to rebuild our navy, to rebuild our air force, to take care of our veterans in the way they deserve to be cared for. those coming back from conflict are going to need ourelp. i am not going to count on reducing our military budget. military spending will come down as we exit our participation in the conflict in afghanistan a

iraq. on ust want to count reducing that. defenselook at the budget as a way to pay for social programs. >> you mentioned tight that the massachusetts legislature passed the legislature -- it is veto the bill, and is that an issue from governor harry? >> i don't know wt all of his positions are. i can tell you i vetoed that bill, and i was fortunate enough to be able to get enough democrats to vote with republicans. that was what was up held. a i have opposed credit for those who have come here illegally. as to our other people perceive those issues, you will have to take that to them. >> [unintelligible]

you have said wait and see and you will announce a jobs plan. you have been campaigning a lot. you need to share with us about jobs. >> if you have heard me describe my seven habits of highly effective copy. that is the framework upon which my jobs plan will be built. i am not putting -- are not looking to put in place a stimulus bill that is like pouring gasoline on the fe and giving it a big boost and then it goes away. sometimes it does more damage. i am not looking to grow government. a lot of people think it is don't have a jobs plan, let's make government bigger. a look at it in the opposite way. i think if you want to get the economy growing, you have to make the government smaller. i will be an bailey my plan with

specifics. [unintelligible] >> the decision on the part of this administration and the concerns about the supreme court that the epa should regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant. if i am president, i will work with congress to reverse the legislation as it is interpreted by the supreme court to say in fact that the bill does not intend to regulate co2, it is not a pollutant within the meaning of that legislation. thank you.

>> you were very presidential. the fact that you are respecting the other candidates [unintelligible] >> thanks, i appreciate it. [unintelligible]

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