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pipe right now through north dakota, south dakota, nebraska, oklahoma, and texas. if there is one leak in an aquifer, you're done. there is no more water in texas if you have one leak in that aquifer. i mean, it is that bad. their own msds sheets says this kills you. if you breathe it in, it kills you, if you swallow, and they are about ready to open up the kalamazoo river in michigan, and kids will get in there and oil pops up. i know that for a fact. [no audio] there's videos on yiewb, and i'm going around the country now trying to tell the word about what's going on there because --
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i need people to tell their friends, go to youtube, watch the videos. you don't have believe me. i have documented proof. i have 70 edited videos on there. i have put 2200 hours of my free time, sold everything i own to do this, and i have not gained anything other than losing a $2300 a week job because i reported this. my entire family has not workedded since this. anybody who working in the oil industry that's related to me has not worked. this is how powerful they are. this is how bad they are, and they don't even want you to know -- they didn't evacuate the people in my community. we have 40 miles of river that was contaminated. it's supposed to be a 1,000 foot mandatory evacuation. it did not happen. they did not evacuate anybody. these people breathe in these chemicals, and some of the chemicals it takes an entire
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year before you even start to see signs of sickness. then the companies go around and get you to sign off for $2500 or some of them are $250 for an air pure fier. you sign off, and now you lost your rights because they trickedded you. we went to congress, and we had hearings, and they said that these oil companies should not have done that. they lied to them, and i'm trying to do something about that. i'm trying to change some policies. i'm trying to stop the tar sands pipeline because whether you believe it or not, china has bought a big stake in the canadian star tandz, and we're going to build the pipe to go to the gulf. it's going to texas. we said our military will not use the oil. the emissions and carbons are too high. if our military is not using and our cars are not going to use it, we're going to send a lot to
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china because it's easier. they use it for their military because they don't care about emissions and the carbon, and now we increase their military, and some day they are so big, well over a billion people, they'll run out of area, and they are going to say we need some land for our people, they will -- we're going to have a war because of it. what do we do when we supplied them for ten years of a major source of oil because drks and then when we have the pipe coming through our land, it pollutes us and kills us slowly. there was a pipe i worked on last year for the transcanadian pipeline that had 12 leaks in one year. 12 leaks, 400 gallon leaks. i had a million gallon leak in my town. oklahoma had a spill, new york had a spill, chicago had a spill, michigan had a spill. i mean, it's traveling around
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the country. these, the tar sand pipeline is like sand pierp through the pipe, and that's why they break. we need you to just watch the video, spread them around. i'm trying to help the environment. i'm trying to help the union members with jobs in other sources because i -- as i said, i 4r not work for -- i will not work for a tar sand pipeline, and anybody who does is going to kill america slowly over the years. i'm trying to do something about that. i love my country, and i will do anything. i -- i'm telling you. i have a bronze star for saving a man's life. i'll do anything to protect my country, and i'm right now doing everything i can to protect my country one person at a time. thank you. [applause] >> again, thank you all for coming out today. we try to do education as well
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as resistance, so tomorrow is resistance, the federal, fha will be doing an mortgage underwater action as well as eta whistle-blowers here and going across to the environmental protection agency how weakening of the air standards is killing people in this country, and then this weekend on sunday, we'll have workshops on time banking and local currencies, another way to democracy the city. check the website often and join us on the plaza whenever you can. thank you. [applause]???óó
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>> they're going to present to the national committee which is charged with of finding money in deficit savings by november 23. congress must pass a proposal in order to avoid automatic cuts. today on c-span, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform on the deficit reduction debate. that is at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on c-span. tomorrow, the british house of commons on the investigation into phone hacking by reporters. testifying, executive chairman james murdoch. here is a portion of that hearing. >> you are familiar with the word mafia?
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have you ever heard of the term omerta? >> i am not an aficionado. >> a group together by secrecy with no regard for the law. >> i am not familiar with the term. >> would you agree with me this is an accurate to a description of news international? >> absolutely not. i think that is offensive and not true. >> there are allegations 4 phone hacking, perjury, facing this company and all that happened without your knowledge? >> as i have said, it is a matter of great regret and that things went wrong at the news of the world.
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the company did not come to grips with those issues. i think we all recognize that. we also acknowledge that evidence was given without possession of the facts in the past. it is something i am sorry for. when evidence came to light and when we achieved the transparency that is appropriate, we have acted with diligence and to improve the process is to make sure they do not happen again and to make sure our cooperation with the police is such that we can bring any wrongdoer to account. >> you must be the first mafia boss that did not know he was running a criminal enterprise. >> please. >> you can see the hearing tomorrow at 3:20 here on c-span.
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the air force confirmed that the cremated body parts of some veterans were dumped in landfills into 2008. leon panetta has ordered an independent review of procedures at dover air force base. he was joined by martin dempsey for a briefing at the pentagon. this is half an hour. >> good afternoon. firstis general dempsey's briefing with the secretary. i welcome him to this briefing. i would inform him there is a tradition that he gets all of the tough questions.
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did tim used to this job. let me begin by wishing a happy birthday to the united states marine corps. i will be attending their ball this saturday. general dempsey and i have been working with the senior leadership of the department, including the service secretaries, the combatant commanders and the undersecretary of defense to implement the 450 billion in savings we have been required to do over 10 years. that translates into a around $260 billion over five years. this process, and i required this from the beginning, has to
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be driven by strategy. it also has to be a team effort. my hope is that as we work through this we will put the leadership of the department in the same place so that we can finalize this effort. as we move ahead with this process, all of us are watching closely what happens on capitol hill and with the congressional super committee. we watched it with great concern. as you know, the super committee fails to reach an agreement with regards to additional budget savings. the penalty for that is a sequester. that approach would double the
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size of the cuts we faced at the defense department. it was also forced us to cross the board of these cuts. this takes effect in january of 2013. obviously, we would have a year where it would hang as a shadow over this department. i have warned that by cutting 20% in every area, sequester will lead to a hollow force. let me explain exactly what we're talking about. that which is hollow retains a shell but lacks the court. -- core. and hollow military has the organizational structure but lacks the people, training, and
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equipment it needs to get the job done. it is a ship without sailors, it is a brigade without bullets, it is an air weighing without enough pilots. it is a paper tiger. an army of buildings and bombs without enough trained soldiers able to accomplish the mission it is a force that suffers from low morale and is unable to keep up with potential adversaries. it invites aggression. a hollow military does not happen by accident. it comes from poor stewardship and poor leadership. my message to the congress is that it must show the necessary leadership by doing the job they
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have been asked to do. that means identifying savings in the two-thirds of the budget that still has yet to be considered for deficit reduction along with additional revenue. in my conversation with key members of congress and with members of the committee, i have told them that if this nation as a brave young men and women who are willing to die and put their lives on a line in order to sacrifice for this country, it cannot -- is should not be too much to ask our leaders to sacrifice a little to provide the leadership is essential to solve the problems facing this country. this is a fundamental responsibility we have. it is also obligation that we
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owe to our service members and families. the entire country should reflect on this tomorrow as we observe veterans day. on monday and went to new york to meet with leaders in the business arena and those in government and nonprofit sectors. talk about how important is to help prepare -- our returning veterans find jobs. as we move into these next few years, as we begin a drawdown process we are going to be adding to that burden. these are men and women with extraordinary skill, proven leadership. yet the unemployment rate for veterans now stands a 12%. that is unacceptable. we can do better as a country and we are making it a priority to ensure that our service
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members are given the support they need to pursue higher education, find a job, and start a business. these obligations continue at every stage. to include ensuring the recovery and dignified return of our fallen heroes. this is one of the department's most sacred responsibilities. that is why all americans, including myself, are justifiably disturbed by the reports of mismanagement at dover port mortuary that came to light this week. when i came into this office in july, one of the first meetings i had, i was briefed by secretary donnelly on their
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investigation into dover. they were forthcoming with me. it was clear they took these allegations seriously and they're committed to strengthening the handling of this most sacred task. still, none of us would be satisfied until we have proven to the families of our fallen heroes that we have taken every step possible to protect the honor and dignity that their loved ones deserve to. d. that is why i have requested an independent review of overall current operations at dover to valuated changes and the procedures that must be implemented. the vice admiral, the former surgeon general of the united states, along with a panel will
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conduct that review. united states office of special counsel and produced its own report which i have reviewed in just the last 48 hours. in light of the concerns that were raised in that report, i have asked the secretary of the airforce to ensure that the disciplinary action was appropriate and to provide me with to results of that review. as was confirmed in the report, it is conducting additional investigations to determine whether there are management reprisals that have been taken against the whistle-blowers. this is a serious issue. as someone who voted for the whistle blower legislation. i directed secretary donnelly to report back once the
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investigation was complete to ensure that all appropriate action has been taken in light of that report. this department has to be fully accountable in what we intend to deliver on this matter. we have to be accountable on how we treat service members. for accountability -- full accountability is what we intend to deliver. i consider this a sacred place and a sacred responsibility. it is a place that must meet the highest standards for caring for the remains of our fallen heroes. we can do no less. less. >> thank you, mr. secretary. as to begin by wishing to bring
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cory happy 236th birthday and also veterans around the world. i have been to several very moving veterans day events over the last 48 hours. if you were to go. it couldn't be prouder of their service. just to highlight a couple things the secretary mentioned. we are involved in a strategy review. looking out to 2020 to determine what is our joint force, weren't the armed forces of the united states need to be to ensure we provide the nation with the capabilities that it needs to provide our theaters, our senior leaders options in the environment we anticipate. and part of the environment we anticipate is a resource constraints that we haven't had to deal with here in florida. that's all working. as the secretary said, he has led us through a process and continues to lead a history process that ensures we have a collaborative effort.
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this is in two or three folks in the room trying to dream this thing up by themselves. so we're well on our way to answering those questions. i will just and adequate with the secretary said about the events at dover. they are very distressing to u.s. and we intend, as the air force intends, to get to the bottom of it and to ensure that we continue to improve processes that may not have been executed properly and old folks accountable for it's appropriate to accountable. without alternate back to you, sir. >> mr. secretary, the other day you mentioned a statement issued at the air force investigation was thorough and today you're asking to take another look at that. what changed into you think -- was the air force not as upfront with you about some of the general counsel criticisms that may have been made that you are now aware of?
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and general dempsey, there's been a lot of discussion about possibly increasing troop strength in kuwait. can you talk about how important you think that maybe for security in the region and what possibly would be to missions and the capabilities you think would be necessary. >> on the first part of the question, i think they did do it are really poor. it was about 216 pages along some additional supplement that were added by the secretary, by the air force and all of that was forwarded to the office of the special counsel. and as a result of that report, they've taken a number of significant status to try to correct procedures that dover to ensure that what happened never happens again. but at the same time, obviously the office of special counsel then issued its report and i have reviewed that they've
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they've raised additional questions, which i think got to be worked out. and for that reason, i want to make sure that we have taken every step possible to bring peace of mind to the family members of our fallen heroes. and for that reason, this review commission to look at the processes in features and make sure we are implementing the highest standards in dealing with the remains of our fallen heroes. and in addition to that, i want to make certain that we've taken all all the appropriate disciplinary action. and for that reason, i vastly secretary to review that. >> with cooperative defense agreements with most all of the nations in the counsel. and in other parts of that region. and we routinely reviewed them. we have been going through process to review our posture. we are reviewing in terms of
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emerging and emerging threats, opportunities, resources and bob will end up with in kuwait will be something that helps us meet our interest and mayors. >> mr. secretary, given the situation at dover, the office says council and veterans organization were wondering aloud why nobody has been fired essentially. up on the hill today, the chief of staff of the air force, general schwartz in a congressional hearing set, well, there was an inappropriate action, whether it constitutes wrongdoing is another matter. is there some legal impediment to firing anybody over this? and should there be a higher standard of conduct and accountability in dealing with america's wounded. >> that's exactly why that's for the review to make sure that
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appropriate actions were taken here. at the disciplinary was taken with regard to the commander thayer and the civilians that were involved. and it obviously for them in their careers has a serious and packed. but nevertheless, based on the seriousness of what to place here, it is my view that we have to look at not only that, but the reprisal issue to determine whether or not all appropriate and 10 steps for making with regards to disciplinary action. you have to send a clear signal that these kinds of actions that took place cannot happen. >> in terms of discipline, is this just a clear black-and-white legal issue, or is there a higher moral standard that should be applied here? >> i think it to demand decision would review these facts. obviously, it involves what is the nature of the violation, is
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there a violation? how serious is that? in addition, when it comes to dover as a moral standard that means we have to pay the greatest respect and reverence to the remains of our fallen heroes. that is what i think that to be considered in the situation. >> i want to follow-up on this because what i still don't understand is why is it credible to you to have the air force investigated thoughts on this matter, given that -- given how critical the special counsel report was of the air force, why have they investigate themselves and with respect, why should the american people after this, after walter reid, after arlington, why should they believe the military and the wounded that remains is the appropriate respect? >> first of all, the independent review is an independent review
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that i'm requesting take place here. independent review is going to be done by richard cremona, will include trent franks, a former member of the board here, houseboy. worst of cipher was represented the family are involved in the mission there. congressman vic snyder who is a democratic u.s. representative who has led a committee that reviewed this. dale hughley, licensed general direct your who served in the u.s. navy. jacqueline taylor who is executive director of the new england institute and internationally but as. and dr. bruce parks, a forensic pathologist. all will be involved in the independent review. with regards to the secretary repealing it, you know, the secretaries at the top of the chain of command when it comes to the air force. i want him to have that responsibility. i trust my donnelly. i think he tried to do with this
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matter, to go after the issues involved here, to correct them into whatever was necessary and i trust he will try to do the same. when i tell him to take a look and make sure your appropriate disciplinary action was taken here, i trust will do that. >> you were told. >> will look into that situation. >> i know that something we should look at. >> they were the special counsel report. i talked to the special counsel and she said her office informed as the air force back in march, whether they inform the families are not. she pressed for that back in arch. air force informed families of those whose remains are mishandled just this past weekend. was that a wise course of action? should they have told them
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earlier? >> my impression is families were alluded to that earlier -- let me check that out. the family should have been alluded earlier. >> as you know, the air force is not acknowledged culpability for this. do you think right? >> if i'm not mistaken, general schwartz in testimony today says he accepts full culpability for what to place. >> i wonder if you are general dempsey think that an apology is in order either to the families whose remains were misplaced or less accountability in the report or the ones who prior to 2008 remain in a landfill. is this the sort of thing good department should apologize for her? >> absolutely we should apologize if we haven't handled those remains properly, then it is our responsibility and we do with his family that apology.
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>> you haven't indicated that they have not apologized. in fact to the notification process, i am telling you firsthand that there were apologies rendered with that notification and deep expressions of regret as there should be. back to the landfill issue, as another secretary said it does go back to where the procedure was change. by the way, the procedure is not uncommon elsewhere in the medical community outside the military. the disposition of human remains are separated from the principal portion. if you look into how it is handled routinely in civilian life, there are procedures exactly that way. we took a decision in 2008 to do at sea. >> in some ways do you believe that was wrong to put the military remains in a landfill? can you say unequivocally that was wrong to do so?
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>> i don't know what great books i cannot regard now that this has manifested itself. i think the review to the secretary has requested will help us learn a lot or that we didn't know before. >> on the issue of iran, there's been a lot of chatter about bombing iranian securities. can you walk us your comments on complexities and the effect is that this kind of campaign? secretary gates and comparable length is set over the last couple of years that i manifest would set back their program by three years at most. do you still agree with that assessment? what complicity is the unanticipated effects of something like that? >> i certainly share the views of secretary gates and general malaise that they've expressed with regards to this in terms of the impact that it would have. i think you got to be careful of unintended consequences here. and those consequences could
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involve not only not really deterring iran from what they want to do, but more importantly, it could have a serious impact in the region and could have a serious impact on u.s. forces in the region. i think all of those things need to be carefully considered. having said that, israel in the united states share three common concern with regards to iran. and the concern was reflect that in the ieee report issued this week. and for that reason, it is important for us to make sure we apply the toughest sanctions. economic, diplomatic pressures on iran to change their behavior and we are in discussions with allies with regards to additional sanctions that are to be placed on iran. and when it comes to action
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against iran, i think it was the prime minister netanyahu himself who said that ought to be a last resort and we would with that. >> into the three years, i want to make sure it said tommy would've most delay two or three years at most. possessed of the current assessment? >> we see no change in the assessments. >> if the sanctions don't reach positive results, do you think the united states or israel can live with the nuclear era? >> we have made very clear that it's unacceptable for iran to accept a nuclear capability. we think that point time and time again and we've taken steps unimplemented sanctions to make it clear to iran. iran is a signatory to the non-proliferation treaty. they abide by standards and
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international rules. obviously the report from the iaea just indicate that is not the case. for that reason, it is important that the world come together to apply sanctions against iran and make very clear to them that they are going to pay a heavy price if they continue along this track. as to what happens down the road, i think our hope is that we don't reach that point and matter and decide that it should join the international >> mr. secretary and general dempsey? >> mr. secretary, if i could just ask one other thing on iran, obviously, the national intelligence estimates from the u.s. side had said that the weapons program had halted, at least in 2003. the iaea now says that it's proceeding apace and that iran is closer than ever. do you share that assessment that they are now closer than ever to a nuclear weapon? and since sanctions have not yet worked -- economic sanctions, diplomatic sanctions have not yor

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