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places of on fairness, and there surely must be, i think -- i am trying to think of anyone besides me has adopted the idea that there should be no tax and interest in capital gains. if that were the case, i would have paid no tax in the last 10 years. all of my income is from interest, dividends, and capital gains. neither would have worn buffett. -- warren buffett need tax relief for middle income americans. my tax reduction is for middle income americans. that is where the help is needed most. >> i have been accused of being conservative.
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my friends do not trust you to be reliable conservative. >> i ran four years ago as the conservative alternative to john mccain. mike huckabee and i were battling it out as conservatives. my opponents tried to characterize me to their advantage and i did the same to them. i will not cry about the nature of politics. four years ago i was seen as the conservative candidate. i am just as conservative today as i was quite sure years ago, maybe more so. it is issue by issue. newt gingrich said paul ryan's plan was right wing social
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engineering. i said it was a big step forward and we were on the same page. newt gingrich is trying to do something about climate change. he supported cap-and-trade. i oppose cap-and-trade. we have differing views on immigration. mine is more conservative than his. we have had a pretty big field. i would be contrasting myself with herman cain, rick perry, or michele bachmann. now it is newt gingrich. we will finally talk about contrast there. hopefully as people take a close look, they will say that mitt romney has been out there fighting for conservative ideals for some time. >> tell us how your positions unchanged or evolved over time. -- have changed or evolved over time.
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how the reno -- how do we know the mitt romney today will be the one in the white house customer will it change again? >> i continuously have people say i have changed my position on gay-rights. i did not. i have had the same position on gay-rights since the beginning of my political career. i am opposed to discrimination based about sexual orientation. from the beginning i have said i oppose same-sex marriage. so unions are virtually identical. that has been my position. i am told i changed my position. i did not. i did change my view on abortion. it changed when as governor, a piece of legislation reached my desk that raise the issue. i thought i could leave things the way they were.
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then a piece of legislation came to my desk about redefining when life begins. instead of saying it begins at conception, we will say this later. and we will allow the creation of embryos for the purpose of experimentation and destruction. i could not sign legislation like that. that was not reading things the way they were. i vetoed those pieces of legislation. that was four or five years ago. that was six or seven years ago. i said i am pro-life. as the governor of massachusetts, every issue that came to my desk related to abortion, i came down clearly on the side of life. i was awarded by the massachusetts citizens for life their award. this is not something that
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happened just before the election. i have a record. >> is there any abortion you would accept? >> yes. in the cabo -- yes come in the case of rape, incest, or risk to the life of the mother. in those cases, i believe it should be legal. >> those of the only thing to have changed your mind on? >> over 20 years and thousands of issues, i cannot imagine there was not something i changed my view on. in the business world, if you do not admit you are wrong -- >> is it fair to say you have changed your mind? >> on some issues. on abortion, i thought i had the right position until it confronted me. when i saw it in light of creating new life to destroy it, i could not go along with it.
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that led me to change of position. i am sure there are other places where by virtue of experience i concluded i was wrong. >> if you had it to do over again, would you do the health care plan exactly the same way in massachusetts? but it was never exactly the way i wanted it in massachusetts. i vetoed measures that were different. what i -- would i have done a plan that everyone insured without raising taxes? yes. it was a step forward. it was not perfect. there were things i wish we could have done differently. but the plan there is favored three to one by the people in the state. the costs the state about 1.5% of the state budget. it was supposed to cost no additional money at all under the plan i proposed.
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they added features to it that made it more expensive. i would not have done it. if i could go back in the governor, i would pull that out. elections have consequences. they will be able to choose people who hopefully do the right thing. >> the individual mandate was part of the the massachusetts plan. >> and support states being able to craft plans that work for states instead of having the federal government impose a one size fits all state. what we did in massachusetts was what we thought would work well for our state. for 92% of our residents, nothing changed. their health care options did not change. the only change for a percent sign. -- the only change was for the
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8%. with obamacare, it changes for everybody. medicare cuts cut by $500 billion. this is something the president will hear about. the only person i know to cut medicare is president obama by $500 billion to fund obamacare. republicans are talking about how to preserve medicare and make sure it is an option. i do not know anybody talking about cutting it. the only one cut in medicare for recipients is president obama. this is an issue i am looking forward to taking on as president. you will have a choice. that exists now for people with medicare advantage.
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i will broaden it. you will have that choice. under that plan, we will be able to keep medicare financially sustainable. the president has been in office three years so far. were you planning to do to make sure that medicare and survives and is fiscally solvent? i find it amazing we have a president with an issue that they not proposing a plan that solves our needs. >> the medicare plan costs more. how does it save more to increase private features? >> the premium support payment will be set by congress. you could have them grow by a
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set percentage rate. you could have competition among various entities to choose a rate based on what you are seeing in competition. liberals and conservatives came together and said we need to have congress set a budget that will allow us to have a premium amount. it will be lower for poor people and hire for wealthy people. they can choose what works best for them. >> does your face or spirituality play a part in this? the president is waging a war on religion. we have had a lot of conversations about spiritual issues. does that play a role in the process for you. >> i think people want to have a
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president that has a conviction that there is a creator and looks to god for guidance. i do not think the particular faith of the individual should be an issue in the campaign. it is up to people to decide what they want to do on their own. i think the campaigns would be unwise to make a particular faith an issue in the campaign. i believe by and large we are a people who believe in the creator. we would like to have a president who would be of a similar view. that is not to say that people who do not believe in a creator do not make contributions to the country. i believe it is likely our next president will be a person of religious grounding.
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>> in your most recent campaign ads, you said you have been married to the same woman for 42 years. is that a direct shot at newt gingrich who has had three marriages? >> no, that is consistent with prior campaigns. i have run ads showing pictures of my wife and kids so people get to know us on a personal basis. sometimes in a campaign, all they see is a person debating. you get the impression they are a technocrat. . i want people to know i am in this because i care deeply about my kids and a next generation.
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>> should people care he has been married three times? >> i am not making that an issue in this debate. i hope with a look at in this race is our respective ideas for the country and our capacity to lead based on our backgrounds and where we come from in terms of the sectors we have been engaged in. >> what would you do differently as president that you do not think the current president is doing to protect national security? >> that is a long list. probably the single greatest threat is a nuclear iran. i fear missile material from iran will find its way into the hands of hezbollah or other circuits. if it were used, it would be
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catastrophic. i think the president's management of iran has been woefully inadequate. he has taken way too long to impose sanctions. i would have imposed crippling sanctions long ago. i thought it was disappointing when the president gave russia removal of our missile defense act from poland. he did not ask for russia to join in crippling sanctions against iran in return. i do not believe the chinese want to be the only nation in the world with sanctions against iran. he failed to put in place crippling sanctions. when dissidents took to the street when ahmadinejad stole the election, he had nothing to say. he said he did not want to interfere with iranian politics.
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really? i think we should have gone after iranian diplomats and senior leaders to turn them into the pariahs they are in the global state. i think ahmadinejad should have been indicted for in citation of genocide. we should have put pressure on them like we did on south africa during apartheid. this issue should have been front and center hammering day in and day out. i would have hoped we would have created the perception and reality that we have developed military options. i do not think anyone thinks america has prepared military options this president would be willing to take to resent iran from becoming a nuclear nation. we should have those options available.
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i cannot describe them precisely because i have not had discussions with military leadership. for iran to be dissuaded from nuclear fallout, it requires sanctions, pain around the world, and a recognition that the united states may take military action to stop their nuclear plan. going more broadly, jihadists in some nations like nigeria will go after a certain part of the country and begin to expand. i would have special partnership forces where we take small groups of military advisers and leaders and personnel and provide them to a nation like nigeria. we say will help your own troops
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and military rout out these radical jihadists to keep you from being overrun by these folks. that happened in the philippines years ago. we put just a few hundred of these special intelligence and special forces personnel into the philippines working with their military. we route to the jihadists -- we brought it out the jihadists. it does have an impact. a decision to employ military power is a decision one would take with great trepidation, caution, and concern. putting america's men and women in harm's way is a weighty matter. taking action to prevent a circumstance where we have to act in that nature is a very
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high priority. helping nations on their own -- i spoke with former secretary shultz. he said in the reagan administration, we sent advisers and helped nations do with their issues to battle the problems before they became conflicts the required world involvement. that is something i would try to do with the special partnership forces to be able to provide some help. the president did something i agree with. he sent people to central africa. they went to deal with a malevolent force. i support the idea of a small number of people who can have a significant impact to prevent something that can be opposed to the interests of america and the civilized world.
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>> might be supposed americans have never chosen as president someone whose main qualification was executive experience? what do you think is different this time? >> if we have a broader definition of executive experience, people like eisenhower would fall into the category. we have chosen people whose primary experience has been in the private sector. that may not have been a feature communicated at the time of their campaign. but ronald reagan's experience was in the private sector far longer than in government. it is the same with others. right now, there is a recognition that what we face is a world that has been changed by a globalization of our economy.
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america's economy will have to become competitive to continue to lead the world. after the second world war, we were so far ahead of the rest of the world. germany and japan have been decimated -- had been decimated. we were the center of the world. we had been for a long time. now we're on the playing field with other tough competitors, of being among them. leading this country to a position where we are again the most productive and competitive and are adding jobs as opposed to seeing jobs leave, that can happen. americans realize we need someone who understands the economy. what we're going through right now is the most severe economic distress we have seen since the great depression. having someone who understands the economy and the need to compete in the world is in the
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mind of the american voter a more relevant qualifications than it has been in the past. i think most people feel or hope they wake up to it that a lifetime in washington is this not necessarily the right answer to get america growing again. i think the president is a nice guy. i think he is in over his head. i do not think he understands how the economy works. i do not think he understands how the american economy has out-performed every other in the world. if we become like europe, it will make us weaker. we do not want to become like your. -- europe. someone who has the kind of background i do is what america needs right now where i would not be doing this. at thee looking calendar. you have about 3.5 more weeks.
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we will spend the next few days looking at the candidates and positions. tell us why you should turn our endorsement and why our leaders should show their support on january 3? >> i would like your endorsement. it makes a difference. i have made the argument and will continue that i think my background and experience qualifies me as a person of judgment, care, caution, and an analytical mind to solve difficult problems and proposed solutions that have been well thought through and can make america strong and better. i also believe my experience as a leader -- is a combination of things that are hard to find in some respects. it is trust, loyalty, character,
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integrity, a vision, and capacity. i believe that background is essential in our president. sometimes we do not agree with someone based on their issues. i may disagree with some past presidents on the issues but see them as leaders. there are issues that really define a presidency. the issues we're talking about can get swept aside for something completely unexpected. you want someone who has demonstrated the capacity to deal with difficult circumstances, to lead in those circumstances, and who has been able to create success where failure was a realistic option. i believe i have demonstrated that. have i let and failed, i would not be doing this. i would not be asking for your support.
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i have not succeeded it everything i have done. i have lost twice in campaigns. you learn from failure. bank capital was the business i started. there were some businesses we invested in the work hard to make successful and they were not. the businesses i have led myself and for myself -- run myself have all been successful, in part because of the experiences i have had of succeeding and failing. a i would greatly appreciate your endorsement and help. i cannot guarantee i will win in iowa, but i am pretty sure i will win the battle because there will be enough time for my message to get through, for there to be distinguishing features of my background to be understood by the american people. i cannot promise you you can
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take that to the day, but i sure am. thank you. i did not know you would be here. it is good to be here with the publisher. >> one quick thing. cedar rapids -- are you backing away? >> no, i fully appreciate johnson in a --john sununu. i am focusing on newt gingrich's vision with regards to medicare. i am very pleased and honored to have the support of john sununu and his outspoken effort on my behalf. thank you. it is good to be with you.
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thank you so much. i am sorry we have not shaken hands yet. >> now, more on mitt romney's endorsement from today's "washington journal." this is about 40 minutes. >> let's begin with your endorsement. you say these are the qualities he has demonstrated that have helped him to stand out as the most qualified candidate competing in the iowa caucuses.
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can you elaborate on those points? guest: we are honored in the we are able to see the candidates up close and personal. we go to the campaign events, the coffee houses, the living rooms, and backyards across iowa for 14 months. in the case of mitt romney, we have had a chance to see him for five years. is a different candidate today than he was four years ago. we did not endorse him for two
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years ago. we feel he is a different candidate. he is more polished and focused on the issues. there are so many issues percolating around the country and around iowa. for us, the most important issue is centered back on job creation, the economy, and how to get people back to work and do things that will lower the unemployment levels. by virtue of his experience in the private sector and experience with job creation, we felt romney was the best leader potentially for the republican field at this time.
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host: we appreciate the partnership and relationship between c-span and the "des moines register." guest: with all of the candidates, it is interesting -- we have a unique perspective of being able to spend quality time with them. each of the canada its care about the country, their party, their vision for the country. the passion with which they speak beyond what you might see on television, it is clear they all truly care about this country and where it is headed and where they think they can take it. with gov. romney, he has been very measured. he has focused in on the things we feel are very important.
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there has been a sense of hand- to-hand combat in terms of who up each other's on issues of faith. those are issues many people in ireland. about -- those are issues many people in iowa care about. there are conversations going on about how to hold on to the family farm, hold on to our homes, deal with foreclosures and furloughs when unemployment is still high in this country. iowa has been blessed with about 6% is lower than the rest of the united states. our state react slowly whenever
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there is an economic rebound. those are the issues we think are the most important that the governor has done a good job of focusing in on. host: you are a major paper in an early caucus state. newt gingrich was endorsed by another. what influence do these endorsements have on the election? guest: i think people take -- pay attention to it. we pay no attention to the polls. this is not a popularity contest. for us, this is an obligation and responsibility saying we've had this unique opportunity to spend time with the candidates. there have been plenty of evenings where we have gone out and attended different events where we have heard the kennetts
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articulate themselves. we offer opinions 3 and 65 days a year. this is another important endorsement and editorial for us. we are saying at this time and in this field, who we think would be best equipped to be in the white house. it is not perceived to be any kind of rara campaign endorsement. it is just our perspective. i would be interested to see how it plays out. host: our phone lines are open. we welcome your comments and questions. you can send us an e-mail. bob dole endorsed mitt romney this weekend. yesterday in south carolina, the
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governor also cannot support in mitt romney. mitt romney was asked about virtues he would bring to the presidency. >> what is the single most version of character that you think you bring to the office of the president of the united states? >> let me give that some thought for a second in the single most virtue -- let me give us some thoughts for a second. the single most virtue? leadership is in some respects a product of character. you look at some people and ask what makes them a leader. it is not just the ability to talk fast or well.
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it is that the people around them invest in them because they see a person of character. for me the quintessential concept of character is integrity. [applause] i aspire to be a person of integrity. i am trying to balance the other virtue of humility. [laughter] [applause] i aspire to be the person of integrity. i tried to live my life in a way that is consistent with what my values are. host: apologize for the feedback. who is romney? what kind of candidate has he been? what kind of the president could he be? guest: i cannot tell you what kind of president he will be. here is what i can tell you in terms of our experiences with him on the editorial board and
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out on the campaign. he is incredibly articular. the consensus among the editorial board members earlier was that there was the feeling he had answers for everything. i do not want to say slick in a negative way, but not as articulate and well-conceived as he is today. his position about job creation is very specific. he has not shied away at all from the conversation as it relates to food he is as a family man and his conservative values. four years ago, u.s. perceived as one of the most conservative republicans running at a time. mike huckabee 1 rackauckas -- won the caucus because of the
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strong evangelical turnout. he has not shied away from his family but he has not made that the cornerstone of what he has articulated and campaigned for in iowa. host: your editorial endorsement is available online. if you look at past presidents, they were all talking about trying to find common ground. they all faced the inability to
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do so. guest: absolutely. here is something that has echoed throughout iowa and is reverberating around the country. washington is broken. we have said it on our editorial pages. you have seen it in your reporting. the vitriol, the lack of willingness to come together in the spirit of compromise for the bethpag -- best path for america is just not happening. they have incredible passion for their visions undoubtedly. it has been a very distinct tone where the candidates have come out and tried to say who will yield the big wrecking ball, a bipartisan collaboration began to. we do not think that is the right approach to take -- i
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think people are looking for collaboration. they are looking for an injection of the bipartisan spirit to get the country by on track. from our perspective, gov. romney went off to boston dominated by democrats and was able to find the sweet side of collaboration and cooperation. he was able to pass the large health care plan that the citizens wanted. that shows to us there is a willingness and understanding that you have to extend beyond the political divide and get some things done. we do not know if that will happen if he is elected. it will be interesting if he is the nominee to see how he and
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president obama will address the issue. atched in thehave wha past 14 months, we have the greatest confidence that he is the canada who can probably do that. host: calling him the best to lead, from the endorsement of last night. it is available online on the opinion page. briefly walk through past endorsements. guest: let me take a look at some of my notes. we have been endorsing in the caucasus since 1988. it was initially perceived this was a republican or democratic event and newspapers should not necessarily wait and on partisan matters. the editor at the time recognized something was
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unfolding. this was more than just a point i was a fair. the eyes of the nation turned to violent every four years. that was the first year the register read in from an endorsement standpoint. on the republican side, senator dole of kansas, george bush, president of texas at the time, and mike huckabee of arkansas or our endorsed candidates in the past gop nominations. i think it is important to emphasize that we do not really care about whether we have chosen the candidate who ultimately wins the caucuses in iowa or becomes the eventual nominee or even takes the highest office in the land in the white house.
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at this time from all the candidates we have looked at, we feel this is the canada who at this moment in time is the right person to possibly leave the country. host: our guest is rick green. the first call is on the republic and ninan line. caller: i want to thank c-span for your coverage of the process. it has been pretty helpful. you are the only ones who have allowed candidates to be viewed in their environments being questioned. host: we want to thank the registered and the union leader in new hampshire. they have helped get us into what is happening in the dance of the endorsements.
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caller: i am in iowa. i am a caucus goer. i have a two-part question. the first part is kind of easy. is there anyone else you were weighing in on? the other part is that the general consensus within the republican party here is that most of the newspapers and media in iowa did not necessarily favor tea party ism.ervative do you think your endorsement of mitt romney will be a benefit for the primary? host: will you be participating in the caucuses on january 3?
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guest: yes. host: do you have a preferred canada? caller: i do. romney is not mine. mike candidate will be ron paul. -- mike candidate will be ron paul. guest: we spent a lot of time looking closely at the candidate. we were zero in on the top three or four of the front runners. we have seen the rise and fall and served and slide -- surge and slide of the candidates over the last few months. we looked closely at the speaker of the house and gov. romney. we looked at their visions of the future and where they are today. we also thought it was
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critically important to take a look at where the candidates were before. as speaker of the house, i will echo what a lot of iowans are saying. which speaker of the house are we getting? he was able to balance budgets and work with democrats. are we getting the speaker of the house who led the charge to shut down the government and ultimately was fined and had a controversial chapter s speaker? is it the kinder and gentler speaker we have seen in the campaign, the 68-year-old grandfather who has resurrected his campaign and promised to be no negative advertising? is it the speaker of the house raising questions about the separation of power?
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people are wondering about him sitting on the couch with plans to close the talking about global warming a few years ago. for us, it was an evolution of what the candid it's accomplished in their previous tenure. we continue to come back to gov. romney in terms of his private experience as a ceo. he was able to come in and save the 2000 olympic games in salt lake city. in our observations, he is able to go to members of the opposing party to sit down and craft the right vision for the country. those were our deciding factors. we gave dr. paul a close look. our editorial board thought some of his libertarian streaks and notions of government intrusion in our lives make a lot of sense. at the end of the day, we felt
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gov. romney was the candidate who offered the best vision for economic development and job creation and also as it relates to a government's relationship to our personal lives and what might happen overseas. host: michelle has this week. -- this tweet. guest: we addressed that in the editorial this morning. i think each of the candidates has taken a close look at their different positions. we have seen some modifications. gov. romney has probably capture the most attention and headlines. to us, it reflects maturity, being able to look at the issues and perhaps be willing to say
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that the way i looked at the issue a decade ago is different from a halt by deal today. flip-floping is a big perceive issue for a lot of violence -- iowans. the board thought he had a good enough explanation for why it changed. it was not a big issue for us. host: this viewer says the endorsement may or may not help mitt romney. the fact that the former speaker is not in iowa will not be missed by caucus goers.
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guest: it will be fascinating to see what unfolds in the next 16 days. iowans are known for their great independence. i have worked as a journalist there and then went out west to palm springs, california, to work for a great newspaper in southern california for seven years. i have returned to the midwest in the past year. i have never seen a state filled with the voters and the general population is a fiercely independent -- so fiercely independent and vigorously embraces its responsibility from acidic standpoint as what we see here in iowa. they're passionate, informed, educated. they love the responsibility they have to be able to kick the tires of the candidate, make them very articulate about their
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position, and prepared them and the rest of the country for the campaign that will unfold in the next 11 months or so. i do not know what will happen. gov. romney has not been to all 99 counties in iowa on a barnstorming trip like michele bachmann and rick perry are right now out on the road trying to cram in as many counties as possible before christmas. i think ron paul is somebody to watch for. he has an established ground game in iowa. he has passionate supporters and believers in his vision for where the country is going and his potential solutions to fix that. the speaker of the house is a relative newcomer in terms of opening up an iowa office. it happened recently in des
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moines. he has not been as visible as some of the other candidate. iowans will pay close attention to that. but i think it is how they will address the incredible obstacles for the country as opposed to how many times you will see them at the coffee shop. it might be an issue for some. i think the vast majority of caucus goers will be looking at where they are on the issues, what they can do for my community, where the country is headed, and how he can potentially lead it. host: mitt romney is the choice of the newspaper. they pointed out that mitt romney has adopted different positions.
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jim is joining us from chattanooga. caller: job creation is a vital point to create jobs for people to get them back to work. revenue is from the taxes of people who have employment at different locations throughout this nation. perot said it best when he described the sucking sound of jobs leaving the country going to other places. those people would be benefited by manufacturing coming back to this country. i worked at a place that had 3000 people working there 20 years ago. it is down to 300. they're shipping those jobs out overseas.
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we had an air conditioning company that had 2500 boilermakers. those left and went to mexico. those jobs need to come back. we need to get back into manufacturing and providing services and manufacturing jobs. host: you are seeing that in iowa as well. guest: absolutely. let me tell you a story. we have a little city called pella island. it is a beautiful little city. it was founded back in 1847 with a dutch influence from folks who left the netherlands and wanted to come to the united states. pella was a city of refuge looking for freedom from
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religious persecution. it has emerged as an important manufacturing center in our state. there several companies they're i want to point out. vermeer manufactures agriculture and mining equipment. they have done fairly well in the past two or three years. employment is up. orders are up. business seems to be pretty good. across town is the pella company. they can manufacture doors and windows. it represents what happens when a national real-estate economy collapses. they have closed the factory in south carolina. there have been cutbacks at the corporate headquarters in p ella. two countries that have experienced team of different levels of success and have their own ideas of the uncertainty of
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where the company -- country is going. manufacturing is key to job creation. there is something about "made in the usa" for voters. there was a round table in earlier this year for the candidates to give their positions. in this campaign on the republican side, we have seen jockeying about who is the most consistent conservative. it is an important part of iowa. a retired minister offered his endorsement of bricks santorum -- rick santorum and encouraged michele bachmann to close her candidacy to become his vice- presidential candidate.
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abortion, same-sex marriage are going to percolate and dominated a lot of the conversations in iowa. at the heart of the matter, we have a 6% unemployment rate that is good by national standards. iowa is also very slow in terms of responding to a recessionary curbs -- curves and down slides. we have more than 700 polling places in iowa in january. i think people will look at their own economic livelihood, where the country is going, and that will play into how important their decisions are that night. host: rick green has been the editor and vice president of news for the "des moines register.'
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we will be covering the caucuses in their entirety. we have a story we want to bring to your attention. the town of 8300 people was down a buck in 1896. one in three residents in perry are latino. the story is about the role an influx of hispanics. guest: it is only about 38 minutes outside of des moines. perry is a big meatpacking center. we did a story on it taking a look at the large percentage increases with latinos. the story was headlined "the hispanic highway" on how the population has been richly received in the cultural changes
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that have unfolded in perry and what it has meant to the cultural diversity of iowa. there has been an adjustment in the 2010 census with the rising prominence of latinos in the role they will play next year on the national stage will be interesting to see in terms of the courtship by both parties and the issues that will emerge related to immigration. immigration will remain a red hot issue throughout the next 11 months or so. host: rick perry is campaigning heavily in iowa before the caucuses. herman cain remains interested in serving in a cabinet position. the department herman cain
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mentioned is the department of defense. here is rick perry on the campaign trail in iowa. >> he has all the characteristics of the type of people i will bring forward. bringing outsiders into washington, people who share my philosophy and are not worried about the next job or going to wall street and getting a cushy job after we have helped them get special interests. people like herman cain who understand making hard decisions trade sometimes you just have to bear down. host: what about the rick perry campaign in iowa? he says is a make or break state for him. guest: i think that is probably true. he entered the race relatively late. he came on like a house on fire with his job creation record in texas.
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lots of headlines and hoopla around his candidacy. well-documented gaffes. debating is not his natural strength. you might have seen it when it was aired and we have our endorsement interview with him. gov. perry acknowledged he had back surgery in july and was not physically and mentally prepared for the rigors of the debate cycle and intensity of the campaign. it is a grueling, demanding campaign in iowa. i felt he had his best debate with the abc/yahoo debate two saturdays ago. he did well on thursday of last
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week with the debate up in sioux city. i think a lot of attention will be paid to gov. perry and how it unfolds. he has a lot of money. he has an aggressive advertising bite in iowa. he is on the campaign trail talking to folks. that plays to his strength. is the consummate retail politician. retell politician, if you will. he likes small crowds. he is very comfortable with rotary clubs to pancake breakfasts. i once did to see who he really is. host: this is referring to ron paul. we have a call from bob joining
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us from chicago. the democrats' line. caller: i have big quick points that i would like you to comment on. four years ago, there was a reporter that asked romney -- you have five sons and none of them have ever tried to join the military. he apparently, with his nose up in the air, said they help me on the campaign trail. he could have said that i would have loved them to join the military, but they never did. who dothis is the most articulae or tour and has to be a black president. >> it would be very interesting to see who ever the republican nominee is and the debates with
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president obama. and aa, president obama can work a room -- undoubtedly, president obama can work a room. he has a clintonesque engage ability. he is very effective with that. there is a part of us that really would have liked to have seen those 73-hour lincoln-style debates with gingrich and obama to see why it would have unfolded. i cannot speak to the comments you had about governor romney and his five sons and the military. i do not recall that period that preceded my arrival here in iowa. but when i can tell you is that governor romney may not be as brushed or that professor-in-
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chief style that the speaker of the house does, former speaker of the house gingrich, but he is very comfortable on the campaign trail. the handles -- he handles himself fine. he stumbled once or twice, not something that is many worry about how he might perform if he is ultimately the gop nominee and how he will do against president obama. we have one more tweet. you touched in your conversation about health care in massachusetts.
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guest: from our research and from people in boston, the health care plan that was created and adopted and embraced by the commonwealth in massachusetts is what the people wanted. it was the right opportunity for that state and those people who had no health care. i do not necessarily think that that is the perfect model for the rest of the country. i think it was a state solution. it is what massachusetts said it needed, what it wanted. i do not necessarily view that in comparison to the obamacare. host: welcome to the conversation. >caller: i think you have the right choice. i think romney has the only chance to win.
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west virginia and kentucky will be republican states no matter what, no matter who gets nominated. i have been in the coal industry for 22 years. right now, it is booming erratically. not because we are producing coal for this country, but for asia, china, india, and industrialized nations. china has 82% energy produced by coal. i know that we need to produce clean coal, but our electric bills are going to 4% in west virginia for the next 10 years. they're putting in $900 million worth of scrubbers here in this country. i think we need to vote republican. get the epa out of the way and let this country be what it once was, a great country. i appreciate it. host: more of a statement rather
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than a question. would you like to elaborate? guest: i grew up in appellation, ohio -- appellatioappalachia, o. the future of america's energy policy will be an issue in 2012. you have seen it unfold in the debates. you see the president talking about it. uc the influence of oil. then you have the pipeline -- you see the influence of oil. then you have the pipeline coming down from canada. i think it will be a protest in issue in this coming election -- it will be a pertinent
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issue in this coming election. we will have to talk about how many reserves we have in this country and in north america to ease the dependence on middle eastern oil. host: let me conclude very quickly. "we are building the economy -- "rebuilding the economy is the nation's top priority -- guest: i think that is one of the greatest worries that i once -- that iowans might
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have. closelynt to look at their past. their government involvement and how they interacted, both of their public image and the democratic standpoint. we have seen exited from governor romney the ingredients. host: from johnston, iowa -- the headline "10 factors to determine new to's fate." thank you very much for being with us. >> c-span is in new hampshire today for live road to the white house coverage of the jon
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huntsman campaign. this is east of concord very near the maine border. and a little bit of background in the polls, he was ineligible recently to participate in the debate because of his national poll numbers being too low. but yesterday, he's told "the salt lake tribune" that he is no longer they margin of error candidate. he is in third place in new hampshire behind mitt romney and newt gingrich. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011]
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president. i bring you jon huntsman. [applause] >> thank you. thank you for that great introduction. i am honored to be with you and everybody else in rochester today. it is a great honor and privilege. welcome to our campaigns for hundreds of the event. that many? i'm just kidding. but think this is 126. 126 and it is a pleasure to be with you again julie. thank you so very much. i want to take a few moments and share some thoughts with you. before that, i would like to turn you over to the greatest human being i have ever met. i think it is important, when you get to know the candidate, that you get to know who the candidate hangs out with. that will allow you to better understand me. so today, i am deeply honored and privileged to be here with my wife of 28 years, mary kay. i am also honored and privileged
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to be with a couple of daughters. where is maryann? right back here. and elizabeth is right back here. two out of seven, we have three girls on the campaign trail. we have two boys in the united states navy. i am honored by their commitment to their country. and two little girls at home would do not know any better. they are doing what they ought to be doing. so by way of bringing mary kay appear, let me just tell you that i was thrilled this morning to hear that we have received two of the five newspaper endorsements so far in this state, which is terrific. thank you. [applause] only five given so far, we have received two. that is pretty good considering that we come from the margin of error when we started the sector. and now we are in third place. we overtook ron paul in third
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place in new hampshire. i cannot thank you enough. [applause] i can feel the energy in this state. when that wave of action against a takeover, i feel that way ve again. i feel it moving through the end of december and into early january. it will peak around january 10. why is that important? that is an important critical event for new hampshire and for the entire country. i will mention this before i call up mary kay. you'll have the chance to change history. if you stop to argue that the election of 2012 will be the most important in our lifetime, because therein we will determine who we are and what we become for the next generation of americans. that is you.
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the first primary, you do the diligence. you get to meet and hear from the candidates on a very up close and personal basis. you rendered judgment. and when you do that on the first primary that this great country has, the rest of the country pays attention to and had one know that? because i am from outside of the state. when this country registers a vote, people pay attention because we know that you probably have seen these candidates and heard from them a lot more than anyone else will. so do you have a chance to make history? do you, as individuals, have this awesome responsibility on january 10 to begin what will be this march toward change next year in november? of course you do. to that end, it is an honor and a privilege to be a candidate for the presidency of the united states of america. but it is an honor and privilege as well to participate in this
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most extraordinary new hampshire primary process. do white understand the part about having to shake hands with everybody in this -- do i understand the part about having to shake hands with everybody in this state 15 times? of course, i do. we are willing to put in that work and that effort in order to make it possible. so thank you for being here. now, ladies and gentlemen, i would like to turn this microphone over to the greatest human being i know, the next first lady of the united states of america. mary kay. thank you. [applause] >> i am honored to be here with all of you. thank you for taking your sunday to be with us. i will tell you if you things about the man that i think has been the undervalued stock in this race. it will be new hampshire that takes into being the most valued candidate in this race. he is a man of honor, of
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integrity, of great character. he is disciplined. he is focused. and he has i think just about every trick that we look for when we are looking for a ait that we- every trea look for when we are looking for a candidate. i opened up "the economist" magazine and found an article titled "wanted, a fantasy candidate -- where is the alternative?" i started thinking about who this fantasy candidate. number one, somebody that has extensive executive experience, like running a state effectively. i thought, check off that box. then, some in that understands
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the business and can take this country back to where it needs to be and talk about perot- growth and getting the deficit down and making a priority -- -growth and getting the deficit down and making a priority. and number four was somebody that has the ability to unite this country. their rigo. checked all of those boxes. this was really -- there we go. checked all of those boxes. this was really interesting. we got into this race and john jumped into this race and was immediately discounted because he did something that i am actually proud of -- serving his country. he did cross party lines to serve his country because he was asked. that is something that, as a
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wife and a mother of two sons who are serving in the united states navy, i am proud that he chose to serve. and i am proud that he did that. i think he was overlooked when he first got in. what i feel happening in this country as we have gone through -- many candidates are going up and down in this race. people now are coming back and say, if you know what, we will be honest. we forgot to give him that first look. we appreciate you being here, giving him that first look. he has been the most undervalued stock. he will be the most valued stock. he is the most valued stock in my book. i decided you all need to get to know him and learn why i love
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the man as i do. he is a mile deep in all the issues. i'm excited for you to get to know him. thank you. [applause] >> so i like to tell people that, it you cannot find anything to like about me, i hope that is not the case, you still have to find something to like about her. and if you cannot find anything to like about her, you are crazy. [laughter] but if that is the case, we have seven kids and we can comprehend divide in the state very well. i like our chances in new hampshire. this is a fabulous state. i want you to walk away with two things -- what i will do when elected president of united states of america. the two things that i believe this country needs most in order to get back on our feet and together as americans first and foremost, they are both deficits. they both need to be addressed.
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one is the economic deficit. it is called $15 trillion. it is a cancer metastasizing in this nation. if we do not deal with it aggressively and realistically, it will consume the next generation. i say that is not fair and that is not right. i do not want to see it as adjusted debt problem. when you have 70% debt to gdp -- just look around the bend in europe. what does italy have? 120% debt to gdp? japan, well over 100% debt to gdp. your economy does not grow any more. it just peters out. i think we need to look at it as more than just a debt problem. it is a national security problem. if we do not deal with it aggressively, it will hurt our
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economy and our ability to compete in what is today a highly competitive marketplace. not only will i hit it hard from a debt and spending standpoint -- i agree with the ryan plan. i am the only candidate on the stage that agrees with the ryan plan and what he says in terms of the $6.20 trillion in cuts the need to be made over the next 10 years. is it tough? is it big? is it aggressive? of course it is. do we have eight choices people? no, we do not have a choice -- do we have a choice as people? no, we do not have a choice as people. not given where we are. i want to fire the engines of growth in this country. we are the most creative entrepreneurial people on earth and we are stock. we are on hold. we have no confidence. we want to break out of the box. we want to grow and get out of
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the whole. but we are stuck. we are stuck because we do not have a plan. we are stuck because we have some structural challenges called a 1955 tax code trying to travel on the superhighway of the 21st century. and we wonder why we cannot compete. we have structural problems called too much in the way of regulatory red tape. we have structural problems like a country that wants to become energy independent and we itself from its heroin-like addiction, 65% imported oil. but we are not old enough to take the steps necessary to get us there. i want to get it done. and i want all of you in this room to take a copy of my economic plan. if you have not seen it already, endorsed by "the wall street journal," the most respected economic territorial paper in this country. what i am asking for is the phasing out of loopholes and
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deductions in total. i delivered to our citizens in utah what is effectively a flat tax. everyone said it could not be done. tough and challenging politically, may be treacherous. i did the same thing, called for the phasing out of loopholes and deductions. i want to do the same thing for this nation. i want to lower the rate, broaden the base, and simplify. i am speaking to you not only as an academic theorist. i am speaking as a practitioner. i want to do for this country what i did for my state. in firing up the engines of growth and boosting confidence. we can launch as a people a manufacturing renaissance in this country. i get around this great state and icy hollowed out old manufacturing buildings from the last industrial revolution. these buildings were once fired by energy and productivity.
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and the competitive spirit that we all embody as americans. i want to get back to those days. some people say that is impossible. that is totally doable and totally within our grasp. we have the largest marketplace in the world. we are 25% of the world gdp. we have the most productive workers on earth. we're just a little tired. we have just fallen behind in terms of our competitive environment. we all know that we can get it done. i want to launch a manufacturing renaissance in this country. in order to do that, we will have to create a more competitive environment to operate in. that is doable. while china has been running high for 30 years, they are beginning to come down current inflation is going up. the cost of manufacturing is going up. political uncertainty around the corner -- the investment dollars
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just conveniently lance in china will be looking to go somewhere else. -- conveniently lands in china will be looking to go somewhere else. we would not be very smart if we did not recognize that and if you did not take advantage of it. if we are smart enough as people to fix our taxes to improve the regulatory dynamic and take steps toward greater energy independence and work on things like work force training, vocational skill development, expanding our community, we can be that manufacturing power. i want to get it done. i want to lead the charge in making that happen, in providing in creating the jobs that allow us to broaden our economic base and pay down the bills. that is how we deal with it. the second deficit, ladies gentlemen, is not an economic deficit. it is a deficit of another kind. it is called a trust deficit.
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the people of this nation no longer trust their institutions of power. we are a nation founded on institutions, developed on trust. we have lost trust in our institutions of power. i look at congress -- 8% approval? 8% approval? i want to know where those people are hanging out. it is no wonder. you know what? congress needs term limits. and nobody wants to talk about it. i will lead the charge in this country talking about term limits for congress. and congress needs to close the revolving door that allows members to just file out into the lobbying profession where they can trade in on their relationships. and we ought to do something about blocking the pay of members of congress until they can balance the budget, for heaven's sake. [applause]
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there ought to be some medical requirements for congress in order for us to give them any trust consideration at all. but the trust toward congress does not exist. trust in the executive branch, gone. no presidential leadership at a time when this nation desperately needs to be led. the president has two years in the very beginning to address our competitive deficiencies in this country and creating more hospitable and propitious environment for job growth. he did not get it done. instead, we have health care reform. obamacare dropped on us when we did no one and could not afford it. $1 trillion. no trust in the executive branch. no trust in our tax code. loopholes and deductions for anyone who can afford a lawyer or a lobbyist on capitol hill. we get crony capitalism.
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who got a loophole reduction last year in this crowd? anybody? who has a lobbyist on capitol hill doing your bidding for you? anybody? who is paying for it all? we are all paying for it. and i say, in my tax code to make you want to get serious about cleaning up washington and addressing lobbying and the special interest cartels that are ruining this country, change the tax code. phase out all the loopholes and deductions and the corporate welfare and subsidies on businesses, that is what i will do. when you get rid of all of that, there's not much to lobby for and i think that is a good outcome. when you get rid of all of that, it levels the playing field for businesses were trying to get up on their feet. that is what i want to have happen. i want to infuse trust back into our tax code. i look at our wars -- no trust in our wars. 10 years we have been fighting
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the war on terror. 10 years. we have given it our all as people. some families have given the ultimate sacrifice and it is to them that we offer a deep sense of gratitude and thank you and respect. we have a lot to show for what we have done in afghanistan. i want to stand up and explain to the american people that we routed to the taliban from power, but ended and dismantle al qaeda. they're now in subsidiaries or sanctuaries. we have had free elections. we have killed osama bin laden. you know what? it is time for these people to come home. [applause] thank you. 100,000 troops in afghanistan nation building at a time when this country needs so desperately to be built. if we do not have a strong core,
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which we do not have today -- our economy is not working -- you can project your values. when this nation is strong -- i have lived overseas for times. i have seen this nation at its best. it projects its values of democracy. we're not doing that today. i want to fix this court. i want to give this nation back on its feet. until we do so, we do not have much of a foreign policy. when we are weak at home, we are weak abroad. i will pullout the map and say 700 american installations in 60 countries around the world? we have a little bit of the overhang from the cold war mentality. we need to be in the second decade of the 21st century in terms of our foreign policy and security structure. a look at germany -- 50,000 troops in 20 different installations?
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the russians are not coming anymore. let's get real about where we need to be in terms of our positions throughout the world. i want a foreign policy for the american people that is led by economics, first and foremost. you have to recognize the ongoing counter-terrorism. we have to take it seriously. but i want a foreign policy led by economics. it used to break my heart running the embassy in beijing, the second-largest in the world. i look at afghanistan, 100,000 troops securing the perimeter. the chinese would move in and take the mining concession. there's something wrong with this picture. i want a foreign policy driven and led by economics that plays right back into strengthening our jobs. i look at wall street. no trust. no trust toward wall street.
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why should there be? banks that are too big to fail, banks that have an implied guarantee on the part of the taxpayers -- if they screw up, they get a bailout because they are too big. if they go down, we all go down. all i am here to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, is that we will not do bailouts anymore. we have been there and we did that. we are not doing it again. [applause] thank you. in order to ensure that, we will have to have a president that can write-size the banks. here is what i mean. we have six institutions that have assets combined that equal to two-thirds of our nation's gdp. $9.40 trillion. we're talking about $2 trillion to $3 trillion institutions. if they get infected, they cannot fail. they go down and take us down
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with them. capitalism without failure is not capitalism. that is what we have set up on wall street. banks as institutions that we will just bailout over and over again because they're too big to fail, i say that puts taxpayers in a very precarious position. -size thoseigtht banks. i want to put them back to where they were in the 1990's. so if they are insolvent, they can fail. ladies and gentlemen, when you leave here today, i just want you to remember that huntsman and i will deal with the economic deficit and he will draw from his experiences as governor where he took his state to the no. 1 position in job creation, where he took his
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stake to be the best place in america in which to do business. and what you to remember that huntsman guidy as someone who wl deal with the trust deficit as much as he does the economic deficit. in the end, we have to come together as americans. we cannot part in our little cul-de-sacs and alleyways and expect to find solutions to our problems. we have to come together as americans and drop from the best traditions of our past. and i want to -- and draw from the best traditions of our past. and i want to get us there. i will not pander. i will not contort myself into a pretzel. i will not sign those silly pledges like everybody on the debate stages have done. i will not do that. i will do what i think is right for the people i represent. that is what i have always done. i have a record that speaks to
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being a consistent conservative. mary kay mention that, early on, there were people who passed right by me. that guy when i ran across the partisan line to serve in china as u.s. ambassador. of course i did. because you put your country first. i will take the to my grave. i'm sorry. that is just to why am. i also serve president reagan and president bush and president bush. i will always believe in putting this country first. if you weigh my background and what i have done and who we are as a family, i hope that we can win you over. so my final request is this. i just want your vote. that is all i want. i want your vote. that is not asking too much. i have to earn it. i know i have to win it over. you may not like 100% of it, but that is ok.
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that does not mean that we cannot be friends. but does not mean that we can win you over. we will recognize that we have everything we need to succeed in this country. we do not have the confidence to break out and get it done. but we have everything that every nation would want to succeed. i thought that living in china, a 10,000 miles away, you reflect on this country, the greatest nation there ever was, the most blue-sky optimistic people there ever was -- that is who we are. and right now, we are a little down. we are in a funk. we are dispirited and ejected. that is not natural. that is not who we are as people. we are in a hole and get to get out. we have to find solutions and march forward as americans. but to look at china 10,000 miles away at what we have in this nation, we have it all. we're still the envy of the world. we have stability. we have rule of law.
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we have the longest surviving constitution in the world. we have private property rights. we have the greatest universities and colleges anywhere on earth and people still flock here to attend them, just to prove a point. we have the most entrepreneurial, creative, and innovative population of people anywhere in the world. we have a pretty brave and courageous armed forces. and i will be darned if we will let those who have been in the front lines in the theater of combat come back to the unemployment lines. that will not happen. they will come back to our respect, our admiration, and our gratitude. and they will come back, ladies and gentlemen, to jobs and opportunity because they deserve it. and they, like the greatest -- [applause] thank you. and they, like the greatest generation -- we have some in the audience that may be from the greatest generation.
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i had the great opportunity of shaking hands with some of the members of the greatest generation. just like they built this country in their generation, we have another greatest generation coming up. and they will to dissipate in the rebuilding of this great nation -- and they will participate in the rebuilding of this great nation. do we have everything we need to succeed in this nation? of course, we do. we do not have leadership. we do not have confidence. and we do not have a plan. it is 2012 -- is 2012 critically important to our future? absolutely, it is critically important. therefore, all of you are, too. as participants in the first primary in this great country of ours. not to put too much pressure on you, but the world will be watching, ladies and gentlemen. thank you so much for being here today. i appreciate it. [applause] thank you. mindful that there is a patriots
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game -- [laughter] and the most dangerous place for a candidate to be standing is between you and a patriot games. we can do some questions and comments and then we will let you go. the most important event of the day, right? we will turn it over to you. yes, sir. i come from an open state, right-to-work state. i think they have a distinct advantage in the marketplace. and i think time will prove that capital is a coward. capital always flea's risk in the marketplace. what we have seen play out in south carolina, that is a perfect example of the manipulation of the marketplace. capital will flee from that kind
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of activity. i do not think it bodes well for either right-to-work states or not. i had companies that were expanding in other states and got that kind of treatment. i would worry about the rest of the companies headquartered in my state. what is the alternative? they go overseas. they go to china. i say that is a loser for everybody in the united states. so let this be debated. let it play out. but i have seen it in my own state the power of the marketplace at work and how right-to-work contributes to that. >> i have listened to a lot of candidates with all of their promises and what they will do and what they have done. most of the time, nothing happens. of course, right now, for a long
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time, we have been looking at all of this partisan bickering in washington. how on earth will you get past that to implement some of these wonderful ideas? >> i will lead. i heard the same thing when i was elected governor back in 2004. how will you make it happen? everybody talks about this. i let out. i came out with a very simplistic template for economic revitalization, starting with tax reform, flat tax, and all the way to health care reform. it took us a couple of years. we got it all done. i went back to the people when i was reelected -- if you love your state, i kept all my promises. it may have been lovely to watch some of the play out, but if you like where your state is, -- it may have been ugly to watch some of it play out, but if you like where your state is, vote for me.
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no politics, no theatrics, no- nonsense, just get the work of the people done. when you are elected, you have the will of the people for a certain amount of time. you have the good will of congress as the governor does with the legislature for a certain amount of time. remember, congress wants to be led. they do not like to be left doing nothing. there is a vacuum on capitol hill. and what happens in that vacuum? mischief-making. everyone is in their political corner and a finger-point engage in the blame game. all the while, the work of the people this not get done. congress wants to be led. so in the first year and a half after i am elected, i will take three things to capitol hill. i will say to the leadership, as
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ronald reagan -- ronald reagan did a good thing in 1980. he befriended tip o'neill and the senate majority leader and relationships mean a lot on capitol hill. i would do that. and then i would take three things to capitol hill on my first day and say i have a pretty simple agenda i want to pursue. i know it will take as a couple of years to do. it is the work of the people. they wanted done. they spoke out in the last election. let's get it done. and that is the tax package and will put forward. that is in a bipartisan fashion. it is not a pie in the sky thing that might get a wild applause line at some political event. it is the real thing. second, regulatory reform, some simple steps, like repealing obamacare and repealing dodd- frank. but everybody knows we have to clean up the marketplace. that will be part of it. and third, moving toward energy independence. i want to dismantle and disrupt
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that one product monopoly. it is great if you want to use oil or the oil derivatives. it is terrible if you want to use any alternative product. we are a nation that will be drawing more and more from alternative fuels, like natural gas. had one of that? i ran my car on natural gas when i was governor. the number one problem was distribution, finding fill up stations. how do you get fuel in your car? we have only one product. it is like a heroin addiction. that is coming to an end. we will take control of our energy future. why? because we can. we have all of the raw materials in this nation to make it happen. we have some structural problems. we have stood due to that one- product distribution system that we did to the broadcast
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system in the 1960's. we have to blow it open. look at what we have to make. those are the three things that i will take to capitol hill and we have one yet -- we have a year-and-a-half to two years to get it done. let's get busy. exerted a little bit of leadership on top of that and i think this country is hungry to see things happen. and congress, for all of their appearances of being divided and polarized, there is no leadership on capitol hill. the full pack position is mischief making. that will not -- the fallback position is mr. making. that will not happen when i am president. we will get it done. thank you. yes, sir. [inaudible]o >> there you go, right behind
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you. >> i have to not tell my wife that i am not as loud as she thinks i am. [laughter] i have always believed that one really great way of saving in this country was by stopping pork spending. one of the reasons that i like senator mccain so much. i am really against pork. i would like to know where you stand on this issue. >> no pork. newporno port. [applause] a safeguard is the tax code that phases of loopholes and deductions that all of the interest groups are getting. i can say no pork, which is a great sound bite, but i want a level playing field for everybody.
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it will end up in three different rates. it will allow us to simplify. i think that is the most powerful contribution we can make toward getting us back on our feet in terms of economic revival. i think it is the most important contribution we can make to clean up the practices in washington. that is what i want to do. yes, sir. right behind you. >> i want you to talk the little bit about family and row vs. wade. i am pro-life. i always have been. and so for those who may not agree with my position, that is where i am. i have two little adopted rules at home reminded every day -- one is from china and one is from india. i am reminded -- i cannot say every day because i denied it to
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see them everyday. but i am reminded about their mothers who i will never get to meet. and for whatever reason in their cultures, where it would have been a whole lot easier to not choose life, they chose life. we now have a great blessing as a family to raise these two girls. and i see how powerful their life is. i see the contributions they will make as they go forward in making the world better place and bringing joy and happiness into people's lives. it is a pretty powerful thing. that is just another example to me of the power of life. that has been pretty central to my core philosophy. that is where i come down on the whole issue of roe vs. wade. yes, sir. back here. >> i have been so impressed with your speaking in the national televised debates.
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iran has been making threats that, if they are attacked, that they will retaliate against america. the top newspaper in iran came out with an article saying that "there are elements in america that will detonate nuclear bombs in american cities." i wonder if you can address the nuclear threat from iran? >> it sounds like a lot of threatening hyperbole to me. not completely unexpected in a war of words. i think that the most transcendent form policy challenge for us, for our country, it is iran. i say that because they have two things playing out. you have centrifuges spinning in iran making low-enriched product. i think it will eventually become a high-enriched product. then they can make a weapon.
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you combine that with the rhetoric that has been on display toward israel, combine that with the connection that tehran has with damascus in syria and support for hamas and hezbollah, and i say that we have a very lethal combination of elements that are playing out here. as for me, i say the leadership in iran has already decided to go nuclear. a think they have looked at the world. they have looked at north korea. they have said they are a nuclear power. they are really out of reach for most people. and they look at libya, which had a program that they gave up in exchange for international friendships and alliances. look at what happened there. i think tehran as saying we want the leverage and the stature that be a nuclear power will bring. so we have to ask ourselves a simple question. can you live with a nuclear iran? if the answer is yes, then you
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have to live with the dramatic proliferation implications, including saudi arabia, turkey, egypt, although we do not know what the leadership structure will look like there anytime soon, but it does look like the strong backbone of the egyptian military will go nuclear. at that point, you have lost control. that is an unsustainable position for the region to be in. i cannot live with a nuclear iran as i played out on the chessboard. if you cannot live with a nuclear iran, then you have to conclude with the people. all elements of national power are then on the table to be used in whatever phased way, incrementally in order to keep iran from developing a nuclear weapon. that would be my position.
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i think we will have to prepare for that conversation with israel, whether it is a year from now or three years from now. i think it will likely happen. there is enough information out there that leads us to believe enoughhey have i material. are you with us or not? and then it will be important to understand what it means to be an ally with united states. you stand with your friends could you stand with your allies. there are certain values that bring nations together. at that point, we need to stand on our commitments. and make sure that the malls in tehran that all options are on the table for the united states. yes, sir. >> i see in your documents that you believe in reducing the tax rate for corporations and also
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eliminating the taxes for the dividends and capital gains. it seems to me that leaves a lot of high-income people who worked in the securities area not having any personal taxes. i am wondering why you chose to delete the dual taxation on that side as opposed to the corporate side where you want to lower that anyway? >> i am guessing that, on the corporate side, not everybody is paying only 35% rate. i want to recognize that reality. a lot of corporations can afford the lawyers and lobbyists to do their bidding. so i want to recognize the reality of the world that we live in. phase out subsidies and lower it from 35% to 25%. in the name of growth.
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i have also said that on capital gains and dividends. i want to take it to zero. and we have a lot of investors in this nation. a lot more than people might realize. i will err in this case, knowing full well that you have a legislative battle. but my position will be that. it is airing on the side of growth. i think we need -- it is erring on the side of growth. i think we need to deploy more capital to the marketplace in ways that will allow this nation to move forward. my on analysis, i was erring on the side of growth in making that decision. yes, sir. >> thank you for coming today. two issues that are high in my concern is, one, i am a small businessmen. over the years, i have always played for health insurance for
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my employees pick -- i have always paid for health insurers for my employees. it is now a question of how much longer i can afford to do that. the insurance rates that we see keep climbing. frankly, i do not entirely agree with your position. i was disappointed that obamacare did not offer a single-payer or a public auction. option.he -- a public auctio we are subsidizing uninsured people through our insurance rates at hospitals who do not have insurance. we have all of the subsidies that will go to health care, yet the people that are paying the insurance are observing a significant portion of that cost. my question to you on that issue is eliminating obamacare leaves us with the same system we have
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today. how will it be more affordable in the future? that is the first question. the second, quickly, is, in terms of the open trade howcies between countries, do you feel about their trade? i do not hear any of our candidates talking about that, fair trade where we allow our corporations overseas to avoid regulations here that have made clean air and clean water, good regulations, where we do not have child care and we have workman's comp. when you have overseas, they do not have those policies and they can send the product back. they will go overseas. what will you do? >> i want to reverse this trend by launching a manufacturing renaissance in this country. and recognizing full well what
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the years ahead will look like. look at what ford motor co. is doing. look at what dow corporations doing. look at with the natural gas revolution is doing in providing more opportunity in this country. the largest consumer class developing in china and india, we have a huge export opportunity in this country. i can see a time when it will go to 20% of our gdp, expand our gray's come and create jobs. we are a great manufacturing power. the changes that taking place in the macroeconomics the environment are giving us the opportunity to get bigger in terms of our manufacturing capabilities. i want to reverse those trends and promote insourcing, more in
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the way of exports to the rising market place and we are just fully understanding that. it is a very powerful thing for any country. recognize the magnitude of what this may mean in terms of a single engine of growth we may not be counting on. what are you going to do after 2014 after obamacare takes effect? i asked you as a small businessman. have you thought that true? -- that through? [no audio] the problem is affordability with insurance policies. as we embark upon health care reform when i was governor, i thought we made some pretty important contributions to health care reform. we stumbled upon problem number one, costs. it is a $3 trillion industry equal to the g.d.p. of france. and half of that number, $1.50
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trillion is needless, superfluous spending. how do you take it out? what are the drivers of that cost that we do not need, and how do you take it out of the system? toward reform, i think would be one step. second, the fee-for-service approach where you are directed to does your doctor for any procedure yet they may have available, you are fully billed for it later which leads me to believe we need to empower our patients more to understand what procedures are available for them. what are the costs? what does insurance actually cover at the end of the day? no one understands costs. doctors do not know, patients do not know and we are in this highly ambiguous environment that we need to tighten up. finally, closing the gap on the uninsured, we will never get there.
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you have to mandate your way on closing the way, then you have the what they have in massachusetts where costs go up, quality goes down. emergency room visits skyrocket. or you can do what we try to do come expand the market place for affordable expansion. we had to find an affordable option, for the youngest group of are uninsured. to die.never going why do they need health insurance? whether states are working on the same thing or not, this is a good breakthrough. it proves the point that in the and we can get insurance companies to do what they're supposed to do, take a risk. they have done enough of what they're supposed to do, take a risk, look at their profile in terms of affordable and accessible policies.
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we just do not have those today. [no audio] it is a cross-state transaction. as president, i would eradicate those barriers that make it impossible for you to bax's that affordable policies somewhere else which will drive costs down because providers in this area will want to compete. i think that would be very, very good for the marketplace. let's take a step back, and before we get to $1 trillion over the next 10 years or the mandate that may prove to be unconstitutional next summer when the supreme court takes about, not to mention the uncertainty for you and others in small business to do not know what to do about hiring come in fusing capital expenditures into the marketplace, so everyone is just sitting on their hands waiting for clear -- greater clarity. the clarity i am going to bring as to do away with obamacare. we are going to sit down
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together with the 50 governors and we say we will take two years because the american people cannot afford to wait any longer. we will find the best approach is for cost containment, because we know we can do it, and we will find the best approaches for things like individual responsibility. 75% of health-care spending is in four areas, cardiovascular, cancer, diabetes, obesity. there are choices that each american can make in bringing improvements to the table. we will figure out a way to bring about an up of the way of the marketplace of the accessible, affordable insurance policies, which we have not even started, which will allow us to close the gap. that is what i would like to do. i will take one more and then i will let you go, because i know have a game on the table. yes, sir?
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>> i agree with your earlier comment that rather [no audio] we let banks get bigger. can you talk about how, procedurally, you would address that and the glass stiegel restrictions? >> they are good thoughts. on glass-steagall, what i would be willing to do in terms of a remedy for the banks that are too big to fail, i would impose a fee. it would cause the banks to say they cannot afford to pay its a they should invest themselves of holdings down to a size that is commensurate with where they were in the mid 1990's. goldman sachs in the mid 1990's was about $600 billion in size.
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$1.10 trillion in size now. did we get any better? is our nation better served by size alone? or did we assume more of a recess tax payers? since the economic collapse of several years ago, these banks have bought up these underperforming subsidiaries. i say i will impose a fee until they can fall under too big to fail and then i will withdraw the fee. i think that is the right approach, and i think it needs to be done. if we do not [no audio] we can improve the regular tv -- a regulatory environment, move toward energy independence, all of that, but there will still be banks that are too big to fail which is not in our long-term interest.
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thank you come everyone, for being here. let me reiterate my one request. if you like what you have heard today, go back and read up on our economic proposal on the table that there. it makes for great light time reading, writing from start to finish. you will love it. take a look. see where my service years have taken me as governor. if you like the choices i made as governor in terms of economic reform, health care reform, we did a lot when i was governor. i need your support. we can make the changes this nation needs so desperately and that happens with you, not me. you, the people. [applause]
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[captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> a couple of audio and video problems there at the end of jon huntsman's comments coming to us from rochester. we will show you a full version on c-span later tonight. you can also find them on line on c-span.org. today, the ambassador received two endorsement from local newspapers and in a poll earlier this week, he had edged out ron paul for third place in the university poll of new hampshire voters. a closer look at all the candidates we have covered on "road to the white house" at c- span.org/campaign2012. today, the ap reports house speaker john boehner says he opposes the two month payroll tax cut extension bill that the senate approved yesterday. he says he wants a new version
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of the bill that would last an entire year. >> it is pretty clear that i come and our members, oppose the senate bill. it is only for two months. do the president said we should not go on vacation until we get our work done. frankly, house palm -- house republicans agree. we have asked for an extension, insurance with reform, making sure that the doctors who treat medicare patients and not going to see their reimbursements cut. we have a reasonable, responsible bill we sent over to the senate. you know, if you talk to employers and talk about the uncertainty, how did you do tax policy for only two months? we really do believe that it is time to work together to complete business for the year. we have two weeks to get this done. >> you're suggesting we start over and make this a one-year extension.
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should the senate start from scratch? >> no. the house and senate have both passed their bills. under the constitution, we have the agreement and there could be a formal conference between house and senate to resolve our differences. our members really do believe we should do our work. the president said we should not go on vacation without getting our work done. let's do this for one year. earlier this week, both the house and the senate, in a bipartisan and bicameral way, that our government through september 3rd. we did that in a regular process, regular order. we need a formal conference here between the house and senate. >> voting on the payroll tax cut extension are possible in the house as early as tomorrow. coming up on "newsmakers" at 6:00 p.m. eastern, senator john barrasso about the congressional
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record in 2011 and his party's plan for 2012. but 6:00 p.m. eastern here on c- span. the group occupy new hampshire discuss their plans for the week leading up to the primary, january 10th. the granite state organizing project was one of the many speakers at this event which took place inside the st. augustine church in manchester, new hampshire. this is almost two hours. >> mic hceck. -- check. >> mic check. we're going to discuss the proell case of what can be done in meetings and we will discover where that came from. a this is the third anniversary
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of occupy wall street, they were prohibited from using amplified voice technology. when you're standing in a park trying to speak to 1000 people, your voice does not carry. if you cannot have any amplified technology, use amplification of the people. it was established as a means of one person speaks and the rest of the group speaks the same message again and it carries further and louder. it is not a means of harassment or anything else. when politicians are doing a microphone check, it is a way of making sure that it is also a way of having the people involved in the discussion, not separate from the discussion in gomathis light of the topic.
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not sure about the topic. if we veer off topic, it is point of process. if we are discussing something and it is a piece of information that needs to be introduced, point of information. we do have one that when somebody is speaking out and there needs to be a direct response to that, it is a direct response. and this is clarifying question. if anybody has a question pertinent to the issue, they can ask a clarifying question. point of process trumps everything else, because it means we are bearing off course and it needs to be discussed to get back on course and cover the topic appropriately. this is a participatory democracy. everybody has a voice. we all need to be able to
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respect each other. we do not speak over each other. that is what the hand signals are for. ok. and there is a consensus process that is involved in coming to any conclusions for the group, or as a general process of coming to a vote on a topic. there is a call for a vote. you can use support, not support. there is also block. that is the most stopping of the process you can do. it means i find this detrimental to the process or movement in general and will remove myself from the process if this continues. this is not a means of stopping the process from working. that is we need to discuss this and work it out so it is no longer a problem for people
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involved. clarifying question? >> the words democracy and consensus -- how those compatible or exclusive to each other? >> well, yes. this has been debated, at least, before. i would definitely recommend taking a look at plato. [laughter] he does not have a very positive portrayal of democracy. but athenian democracy is a democracy where the people, the citizens of athens, had the capability of participating in the democracy on a daily basis. whoever showed up was there. it is not represented tory -- it is not representative. if you are a citizen, you have a right to participate in a democracy. you show up on a daily basis and discuss what is going on. all people have a right to say and affect the change in
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government. the consensus process, to me, is something that has been somewhat newark to the athenian democracy process. it comes from a separate tax system. but that is another mill you of information. -- it comes from a socratic system. but that is another milieu of information. it is to get past specific to those things we share in common. this is another hand sign we have to keep in mind. if you cannot hear from where you are in the audience, this is turn up the volume. the consensus process is trying to get everybody to agree on the issue, and ending thanks to the point where we can agree on them. -- amending things to the point where we can agree on them. is there another question? stand aside?
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if we are rambling -- >> use the microphone. >> if we are rambling -- stand aside or abstained. there is a sign for you are not going to block it, but you are not necessarily going to participate in it. that is stand aside or abstain. point of information? >> when are we going to get to work groups? >> first, but we have basically got to introduce each individual group, and see what each individual group is participating in. the next process we have is sarah jane, who wishes to discuss a topic for us to
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either support or become interested in. clarifying question? >> the different groups that go up here, can they be quick about it? it is a quick, 5 minute thing. >> i would say about a minute. >> 325 minutes? -- three to five minutes? >> ok. any more questions before we move on to each group introduction? if you are from a group in these move on to each group introduction? if you are from a group in the area, do your point of information, and we will put you on the stack. come up and do it. >> i am up here first.
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make a note. you will have to come up here. i will just bring up and talk about what we are doing for the primary. i know we are going to get into more details later, but we are here today to talk about what we are doing. i will give a brief play out. we're going to be occupying the primary from friday january 6 through tuesday january 10, which is t day of the primary itself. the four day event is structured around to our time slots. these to our -- these 2 hoir time slots will allow groups from the region -- new york, boston, portland, and at burlington, and new hampshire as well. that is what these time slots are there for. they are also for community advocacy groups, new hampshire
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citizens alliance,gbt community, and another group of disabled new hampshire citizens, an advocacy group. at is the layout. it is a two hour time slot. what i would discuss at this point is the layout with provided. if people from each group could talk about where they meet. u could give more color than i have about what you are doing. i think everybody knows in manchester where we meet and what we are up to. i would like to open it up to rs, and weoccupie will find out who is here and who is not. >> i am mary ann o'connor.
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i am from the occupied alachua this last week, we had our first ga and establish ourselves as occupy nashua, in solidarity with occupy new hampshire and others throughout the country and the world. let's see. we have a few points of information so far. we are having an event in nashua called 99% aware. the new hampshire archdiocese's recognized this event and invited other church groups to attend. we are really happy about that. is anyone else from nashua here? a lot of them. we did discuss at our first ga what we would like to do, what we would like to contribute to
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the primary. is been here? is ryan here? our group had been sort of -- had broken off into looking at ways to call attention to a lot of the anti-gay sentiment that has been in the ad campaigns. we are really fired up about this. what can we do? we thought we could go to the airport, maybe, and meet some of them, a gay pride welcome to new hampshire type of thing. but we just thought here we are organizing on facebook. all of their security guys are going to be looking at us, watching what we are doing. our plan would be exposed and that probably would not work out. we thought maybe we could have some type of cried rally -- pride rally. there is a group we have been
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volunteering for. that is what we voted for at our first ga, that our contribution would be family pride oriented on the seventh. if anyone wants information, come see me. we have a couple of other groups that have signed up with us. i will tell you about that later. i could talk all day. that is about it. >> john? >> [inaudible] i am representing the 99%. we know who the 1% are. the 0.1% i would define as the american oligarchy, which would include mitt romney as a $6 million a year earning.
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dismantle the illegitimate, unfair, and incorrect legal structure. lawyers know what i mean about that. look at the difference between the marginal tax rate and what they end up paying. shut down the offshore tax evasion havens, which means the cayman islands and places like the irs cannot get at them. sue the oligarchs for fraudulent tax shelters that these lawyers at the what and touche have set up. -- that deloitte and touche have set up. we recognize there is evasion ot
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to make that case in one fashion or another. there is certainly a lot of case to be made about it. i wasn't just people read jeffrey winters' book "oligarchy," about a society that uses the rule of law to cover itself from its responbilities to the other 99%, in connection with funding for health care, education, and all sorts of things in society needs. we invite everybody to participate in that. jeffrey winter. the book is called "oligarchy, "published in 2011. this table from that shows the top 400 earners earned in 2007 tax returns, which are different from 2010 -- about a third less -- there's still remains an
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astounding $334 million a year the top earners make. the top 15 earnings aren't $26 million a year, that is one- hundredth of 1%. the top one-tenth of 1 percent sign they made $400 million and up. you have the half of 1% that starts the level. e top is earning about $500,000 a year. that is all i have to say. >> can you give us some information about when you guys are going to have your meetings? >> yes. the drum group -- the student group has gone through the pressure cooker with exams and will be on winter break. we have kind of suspended our
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meetings until after the break. but those of us who wish to remain active during this time are going to try to hook up with the rest of you folks and worked at the primaries and any other actions going on. >> do we have concorde? >> [inaudible] i am a constitutional officer for my county. we have been working very hard about a pass that wants to take our land by eminent domain, wants to ke american land in the national forest by eminent domain. we are few and far between there, as far as logistically.
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but there are a lot of people that are sympathetic. we are connecting on facebook and watching everything. i know i can get me volunteers for the primary. >>an you inform us of what group you are with, when they need, and where? >> i meet with a lot of groups. on facebook, you can find coalition against no. pass. we have been working on this for about a year. some groups blunter and break apart. there are diffent factions. we all have been working very hard. we occupied the state house last week on the senate bill sb 648 to strengthen eminent domain laws. it was gutted. but political campaigns, it was gutted. we are back january 18 to try to strethen our laws against corporations taking our lan
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i personally work on the foreclosures situation going on across our country. it is combined. taking your house or taking your land. that is what is happening. >> the senate bill -- >> x beasts -- sb 648. >> this will set off the new hampshire version of -- correct. absolutely. that decision was in connecticut, where pfizer use eminent domain to take a home they did not want to sell to expand their facilities. a supreme court decision was handed down. the property was never built or expanded on. refuse from hurricane irene is now being stored in a woman's house. there is a movie coming out called "the little pink house."
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, new hampshire's constitution says that no for-profit organization can take someone's land for profit, and this bill was gutted last thursday. going forward, they just gutted it. now it is going to the full senate. it really -- it destroys our constitution. please get involved. >> thank you. >> i wonder if you and others could speak -- >> my name is kelly, and i am in grafton county. >> i know there are other people from the county who are here. i would be interested in knowing where there are occupied groups in the area. >> i do not know that we have a group and were up there. -- anywhere up there. that would be great.
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>> another is a group in plymouth. there is a group in conway. >> it is just the facebook page occupied the north country. there are links with information there. >> not to get too far into details -- >> from the start, there has never been a set course. i call it the slithering snake. it is going to go the path of least resistance. the protection of the forest -- a lot of coalition support. thank you. >> thank you. >> we have another local crew wisheso present? >> my name is john cavanaugh.
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>> my name is terry franklin. i am not technically with the group. but other issues of been brought up now. we see not everything is an economic issue. there are civil rights issues also. i reprent the freedom bus caravan, who deals with drug policy issues, the drug war. we will be bird dogging the candidates. in cooperation, hopefully close cooperation with you guys, here from now until the election. thank you. >> hey, guys. i am representing in moment called the wolf pack. i met some of you guys. it was started by jake of the
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young turks. we have just one goal, basically, that i think a lot of us can get behind. it is basically just getting corporate money out of politics. it is pretty important. our plan, basically, is to have 3/4 of the state's offer a convention, just for the purpose of passing an amendment with no loopholes that says no money. each person is going to have a certain amount of money they condone it. that will not everybody's voice can be drawn up by millions of dollars. all these opinions are great, but do not mean anything if someone has a billion dollars and disagrees with you. we are having our first rally on january 21 at the state house. it is the anniversary of citizens united court case.
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even international corporations can spend unlimited amounts of money to influence our campaigns. you can find me on facebook at the wolf pack in hampshire. it is also a website. that is it. january 21, hopefully some of you guys can make it. thank you. >> my name is hqani albert. i am part of the manchester area, concord. is there anybody else here from concord? the occupied concord group has been meeting weekly. at this week's meeting, they decided they would like to have a workshop on bird dogging skills, which i will be leading
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on monday evening at park street, on the third floor at 6:00 p.m. and everybody is welcome to come to that if you would like to. i am with the american service committee and would be able to lead workshops on the bird dogging in the field, which i can do in manchester or other parks, if we can find time to do that. we can talk about that later, if you like. >> the bird dogging? >> my credentials are i have been doing it for about nine years. anyway. so. >> when and where do occupy ncord made? >> date met at 4 park street in the america votes office. it has been shifting from place to place. you have to check the facebook page and be on the e-mail list to find out where the upcoming
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meetings are. >> other lations? >> sort of. [laughter] i am not exactly with when an group.y i am with the drone awareness project. i have been going to gop events. between the predator drone, i can say nobody knows what they are talking about. i have experience if you have any questions. the other thing i wanted to offer asomething available -- i do a radio show called "making waves. it aired an hour or two ago in
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portsmouth. i use some of the audio from the exeter event. you might want to hear some of that. what is that? oh yes. i am sorry. also there is a occupy radio. doesdoes anyone know when it ai? 10 to midnight on saturday. pardon me. the one other thing i wanted to mention from dng the news this morning, which you would hear, a memo put out by a lobbyist group trying to do, what did they call it? basically, lking for--- some kind of focus groups for-imagery around occupy groups.
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and there were concerns that we could organize and effectively knows that the democratic and/or republican parties would stop supporting wa street. buthe obama administration will not accept a 0.1% tax on transactions. >> [inaudible] >> $850,000. >> any other occupy groups that want to give a status? or introduce yourself? i see none. >> i guess then we should probably introduce and then move on to what groups? ok. the lady of the hour.
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>> hello, my name isarah jane, the executive director of the granite state organizing project. your host for this morning are this afternoon's meeting your the granite state organizing project is a statewide association of organizations and labor organizations and non- prof groups. we're working on a primary for the next few weeks and i just wanted to share with you the work that we are doing on the primary. as i said, we are in association with labor organizations and church organizations, so we address things that directly affe our values. what we're saying is that presidential candidates need to stand with everyday people. romney, a gingrich, and other presidential candidates have proposed privatizing medicare and social security all advocating tax breaks for the wealthy. they are out of touch with everyday people who rely on these essential programs.
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including my father very our nation created so security and medicare because we wanted a country where people look out for one another. we wanted an america where work paid off, where responsibility was rewarded by a decent life, modest savings, and ears of your retirement -- and a secure retirement. we did not want a naon where are elderly to die -- died in poverty in subsisted on cat food. these ideas are of risk. a small fraction of our population has driven our economy to the brink. we need leaders who will stand with us not stand with the wealthiest of the nation. instead, we have politicians who climbs also security and medicare are broken and they want to hand them over to the bankers and financiers because our economic crisis. social security, medicare, and medicaid are not broken.
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there must the affected programs that america has predict congressional budget office says that these problems need only minor change won't -- changer -- minor changes to he will work for future generations. also security and medicare are a large part of what makes of middle-class america possible and we will not stand by and see these programs destroyed. so our platform is stand with everyday people, do not make us is also security, medicare, medicaid, create jobs, put people back to work so that more money goes into thsocial security fund, make social security stronger, lift the payroll cap on social security so that high earners pay their fair share, and this will make social security solvent for cades, and let the bush era tax cuts expire. these task as for people and make more than to under $50,000 a year has -- is part of what is causing our so-called federal budget deficit. that is our platform for the
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primary and the activities we are going to be doing a lot -- we aborted begun in. we have been bird dogging the whole year, but these activities, we have regular everyday citizens writing letters to the editor in all the newspapers across new hampshire. we're going on talk radio, already have some shows set up for next week, we're going on conservative and liberal and progressive, we do not care. we're going on talk radio. we're going on cable tv, public access shows, we're visiting the offices of all of the candidates that have offices in the state. we will visit their offices with regular ordinary people who survive on social security, medicare, medicaid and talk with them about our platform. and this is something else you might not know. the abc is setting up -- adc is setting up a permanent station and we are encouraging all groups want to get their wd
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out to stop by manchester city hall and chat with reporters from now until the primary. and then on the saturday, the seven, when there will be the last republican debate in this state, we're going havan action, visibility action in the so-called free speech area that they will allow us to be a part of that the debate and then we will have a debate watching party where we get together and have hot chocolate and watch the debate and what -- and talk about what they are doing. that is all open stuff. they will try to use this opportunity that new hampshi has by having this first in the nation primary to get our message about social security, medicare, medicaid, and our politicians need to stand with everyday people. thank you for inviting me to be with you today. any questions, let me know. >> [inaudible]
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>> the granite state organizing project is that facebook page. or you can e-mail me at granite stateop. thank you. [applause] >> which it also said that if anyone feels the need to talk to anyone who has spoken today, if you can meet them after the meeting e get their contact information that our website as we're leaving, or after we do the workshop. network, this is part of what we're doing it. talk to eachther and get connected so that we can better effect change by working with each other. update. next we are moving on to the workshop, i believe. but we are going tdo, i am going to call of different
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groups and we will have primary planning over here, and whoever is in charge of that, sparkle? of it. -- ok. media attack will be over here. -- media tech will be over here. legal aid will be back there. logistics, paul, right there. and i will be in the back corner rather with art and morale. >> how long -- how long should small groups take? >> what time you have now? we were looking at approximately an hour. if at any given time that seems too short, we will -- i will come back up here in an houand ask people need more time.
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>> has appointed affirmation or suggestion, there is a group that he just mentioned. hit you feel you are in a legal aid in your of discussed a they want talk about, feel free to come over to come over to the group will be at the camera, general primary. >> if anyone has to be gone by 4:15, i need to lock the doors. >> thank you. >> on the facebook page, instructions about [unintelligible] >> that was the legal entity, in the back -- back there in the red sweater, and so if we want
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to cut time to work groups for 45 mines, and then if it becomes urgent, we can network. we will reconvene afterwards and discuss the topics we went over in work groups for a few minutes. you are in part. -- art. he is an logistics. back there, we have a legal and police. media tech is up here and primary planning is right up front.
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>> what are we doing? >> i do not know when it a facilitator, but some sort of structure. i mean, i open before the fact that we structured the meeting around two hours timeslot, and we could start with comments from veterans from peace, discussing what timeslot their protest chosen. for januaryeduled 9, and monday, from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. and better as part. i hope we do not have a snowstorm that day. -- in veterans park, i hope we do not have a snowstorm to date. moneytalking about the
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that we are spending and have spent on -- i think ron paul said 9 plus military bases overseas. who knows? there are so many. we think that money should be expended here at home has darden marked with the king said on programs of social uplift, not having our military go around the world destroying countries, destroying people, and it said, take that money and use it for job training, use it for affordable housing, use it for education, all life affirming activities. we hope you come to ou workshop. we're talking about u.s. foreign policy. >> if you want to start with reports with already has been scheduled, that is the way to go.
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do we have other ideas of topics -- make sure that. >> an agenda idea? >> i do not know if you already have one, but is there a bullet point list of things that someone says, talking points? >> it was distributed earlier. it has within it the general statement so far. i think broadly, it says in the press release that occupied new hampshire is concerned about the disproportionate -- occupy new hampshire is concerned about the disproportionate influence of the top one percent in our political process. whether it is empire 14 hours or
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sarah jane's program, but the main tic is a disproportionate influence. >> this is the time to hear it. i expected to be here. i suggest that we have some agenda items and then go back to where we started and talk about what people are already envisaging for time slots. kurt, you have another topic? >> i thought we were talking about things that were already scheduled. >> that would be great. go ahead. >> some of you may know him. it is done a tv show, democracy inmpire, and basically an alternative polling booth in which people to vote would vote for democracy or they would vote
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for empire, and ask them other questions as well. what we're trying to do is organize that in every polling place around the state. >> how do we get in touch with him if you want to get involved with that project? >> i have got is contact information if you wanted. i have got his fund. i can give the dead. just -- i have got his phone. i can give you that. justice second. -- just a second. there is a website. democracyorempire.org.
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>> i am windy and we have a drum circle, a slot on saturday, and anyone who wants to help us with a percussion instrument, you can join us, because it is a wonderful, mical things. it is a good te to let us be heard literay. it can be heard when we have a drum circle in manchester. they attract attention and 're all together as one. i'm lookingor anyone that will posted on the occupy new hampshire facebook page, and i ll keep looking to show up at the allotted time, 3:00 on
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saturday before the general assembly that day. will allow for other activities if possible. i ask anyone, professionalism troubles -- particularly professional drummers as well. african drums, whatever, you can join in. we have a wonderful community building event. >> on saturday, from one o'clocks to 2:30 p.m., occupy occupy wall street claim that. and then tentatively we are what mary and talked about earlier, the march, part of the lgbt march, at 2 at 30 p.m. on saturday. so if you can incorporate that,
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we will bring your information. >> maybe, mark, you could clarify for how we sign up for the slot in the process? >> if if you can -- we strongly encourage to make it to our regional n. manchester. we'll take your information. >> other things already on the schedule helpful for us to know about? >> we are muddy here because of our facilitator and are primary host pointers -- hostess got ill today.
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so we do not have that at this point. you can posted if you are interested, facebook, it is on the facebook, occupy the new hampshire primary on facebook. >> full words. occupy the new hampshire primary. >> if you want to propose something, you will know the open slots. >> great. >> before we get to the primary, [unintelligible] nchester pd, [unintelligible] this will affect the primary and not just manchester but the
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entire people the will to come to the primary. i wanted to let you know that there is [unintelligible] you can talk about it or ignore them, [unintelligible] we're going to do the whole y.cupy primary bria it's very important to discuss that. >> anybody interested in meeting what the police either the station or we will find some more neutral ground after this meeting? please give your number to cecilia.
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and more affirmation, we will keep you in touch to make it in town for a meeting. >> the last time, it was clear there was not alogue between occupy and the manchester pd. [unintelligible] nobody told us that they would be arrested. >> another gup was going to talk about legal stuff. the one hand -- a woman who had that tentative information for the meeting, he has been great,
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the captain, of the manchester police, he is very professional. he has proposed a time. i cannot recall a periodan have the information and she had to leave earlier. -- i cannot recall if. jan had the information and she had the lead. we will get that information to you. >> melissa? schedule? >> scheduled for friday? we pulled up on the fund. -- pulled up on the phone.
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5:00 p.m. is the welcome, 6:00 is entertainment, 8:00 this still open, and then saturday, 9/11, i am sry, i am sorry. mike check. friday, january 6, 5:00 p.m. as the welcome, 6:30 p.m., a man's and entertainment, 8:00 p.m. is still open, and saturday, the 9:00 a.m. is open, 11:00 a.m. is still open. 1:00 p.m. is a lecture on how to build a strong movement. 2:30 p.m. is the march to centers college, 5:00 p.m. is our general assembly, sorry,
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7:00 p.m. is that your prerecession for the american dream at the college during the primary debate. and the node is please where morning attire -- mourning attire of all possible. the marriage between the person, 11:00 a.m. as " and, 1:00 is up and, at 3:00 p.m. is open, 5:00 this are general assembly, 7:00 p.m. is open. and then monday, january 9, we have 9:00 a.m. open, 11:00 a.m. is still open, 1:00 p.m. is the veterans for peace talks on u.s. farm policy, 3:00 p.m. is open, ibm is general assembly, 7:00 p.m. is on, and then tuesday, january 10, primary day, 9:00 a.m. is up and, everything is open this up for 5:00 p.m., are geral assembly as right now.
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i can ve you the e-mail address if you do have anything put on the schedule. at is oc cupythehnprimary@gmail .com. >> who is organizing the funeral for the american dream? >> manchester g-8 is how bad is getting plant origin and that a saturday. ga, that as a strapping, that is one to beat -- we're going to be marching to there and we're going to be going to the debate itself. so this will open up a little bit, to say that this schedule always be updated and revise, so keep going to the facebook event
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page, occupied the new hampshire primary. it will be completely updated. >> the calendar is on their plus updates. one of my a dream things, i do not know how facilitate this, is to have a march that is again community building, for all of occupy, all that chance and signs and walking to the candidate offices, and the traditional occupy march. if some groups like to facilitate that, that would be grand on sunday. it is very community building and it attracts people, it's our point across. just putting it out there. >> who is occupy concord here?
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the national league of women voters president is having a function on patriarchy and they're asking george stephanopoulos to facilitate the forum after the movie, and the president will be in concord. but that this site will have national attention on sunday. >> just on january, that monday in concord will be the debate at the capital ceer for the arts. did not hear there is anything scheduled for that time slot on the morning of the eighth. if not, i would like to propose to have some discussions with the agenda for later. >> sunday morning, during the --
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it is scheduled right now, it is not been updated, so we walk shifted marriage to corp., 9:00 in the morning, so it is what is going on. two big national debates, one saturday and one sunday in concord in the morning. so on the morning of, we're not clear what the time is, but i know it is being hosted by -- nbc and facebook. meet the press program. i think it is -- i'm getting times like 9:00 and 10:00, but it is important to have our presence there. it will be really important. it is going to be a lot of media there. i think that is really important to get some members there. i think it is a great idea to do
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it the wedding in that time slot in the morning. is that what you're talking about? >> if is scheduled for then so we will keep it open and see what happens. >> deal freed from the conquered groups to lobby hard for concord taking that time slot or another time slot. and also sergei and could have a chance to meet with their group on saturday and said way there. -- segue their. >> on saturday, we're going to be in the free speech area at .he st. anselm's college sometimes we leave the free- speech arianna and stand on the street and waited people. they cannot stop you from standing on the street. we hope to go to a location near
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or on campus to watch the debate together and we will invite the media to come and interview the people who are watching the debate. it is an intergenerational, interracial group, college students wching the debate together and talking about how these issues affect their lives. and if you get a ticket, you do not have to pay for the ticket but you have to be registered as a republican or an independent and apply online to get the ticket. >> go to the website of the new hampire institute of politics and navigate from there. that will get yourself into a lottery to get a ticket. it will be competitive in a might be too late already, but it is worth a try. in and what you began, you
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cannot speak. >> or they will kick you out. >> they will reject it. >> disrupt the process, why not. >> if you cannot get in that way, for point of information, the website that has the ticket information, we put it on the facebook about two weeks ago, and several of us tried to get tickets. they allow you to get up to four tickets, but as sara jane said, all speculating myself, they are going to scream your name against who is an independent or republican. if your democratic registered, you will probably not get into that. how much more time to we have before we get back again with the main group? >> all of these blocks have to be in manchester? >> they are in veterans park for
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four days straightbut at the national debate, we're going to be going there as well as at veterans park setting up satellite feeds of bird dog units. veterans park is a staging area, but also, it is a staging area for bird dogging throughout the area. >> veterans park or victory part? veterans. we wanted to do one more during one of the tuesday time slots. >> right now the plans for the march, the perception on saturday is one thing that is already on the schedule, to consider them songs. -- st. anselm's. -- it is a great that
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there is a coroneted presence, but a people organize these and other parts of the state, it is up to them to do that and they do not need permission from ga in manchester to organize something in bethlehem or in concord or and conway. >> that conway group will -- jindal league of women voters is 4:00-6:00 that the community college auditorium. >> just to let you know about that, excellent, good. great. >> there will be a lot -- there will be tons of stuff going on and other national groups like the league tried to set things up with a group that you like, you might want to go and join them, and you might want to go in protest them. so pay attention to the news and there will be lots of stuff for
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everybody to do. ed will talk about what he is doing. >> then i thought we could listen to ed talk about his ideas. >> i have to talk and some people with the manester, it would be really great to organize the program, 2012 is the year of a couple of. there was a wonderful opinion piece about cooperative businesses. if anyone can connect with me about cooperatives at utility companies and the state or in new england, that i think and act with, other cooperative businesses, but do we get have a panel discussion. i think it would be good program, maybe even in hanover. i'm elizabeth and get with me afterwards. >> i would say that if anyone
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here, because it was not discussed, a the logistics, but if you're not from the manchester or part of an occupy group, please fill welcome to reach out and talk to people. if you have connections to community aphids to sigrid's, really reach out and tried to -- advocacy groups, really reach out and try to get them on board. the better integrated r movement will be in the primary, that is the reason why we're doing it, not just by the -- not just for the primary but to build a movement. i wanted to do a time check here. we would give ourselves and our? ok, we have about 15 minutes left in hopefully everyone can get together. tell us about ur idea. >> yes, come closer. all right.
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i have these pollens and they symbolize something important. is what politicians run on, isn't it? they are full and they are big of rigid big balloons and full of promises. but when the hot air is over, this is what we got. i am passing around something that is familiar to a number of you, including brother alfred here, the moderator of some of our tv programs on channel 23. they had been shared with all state for community access tv and the 35 community access channels all over the state. so let me pass this around, because i would encourage people to go to the website, democracy orempire.org.
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hello. so there might note enough for everybody, but we have enough for every person's need but not every person's agreed. look at this as it goes past. " we tried to do is provide reality to a great analyst, thomas johnson by name. thomas johnson or wrote a wonderful trollope's -- trilogy, starting with blowback, and nemesis. the last one. this brilliant man, a conservative and politically, said that the country needs to decide whether it is going to be an empire or democracy. cannot be both. and what we tried to present in this series is the best analysis that we could by people that
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have a public interest to explore that. some of the first s the cost of four. the send, the cost of intelligence. then the cost of defense and finalldemocracy or empire. these will be broadcast on the day after christmas and the day after new year's. and this is supposed to be in one of the weekly newspaps. but as we talked about this, we ask, how will the rubber hits the road? even as we interviewed different president to candidates that we have been doing, and put this on our television program to try to share information, how are we really going to empower people to say, wait a minute, i do not like that? this is what i want, or i want democracy, very strongly. no wind pirate king. -- nompire thing.
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when january 10, we would and by different groups that are also interested in democracy, for example, occupy, to contribute questions and put these on a ballot. and after people vote for president, they would be offered a ballot, hopefully at every polling place in new hampshire, how many people know how many that is? >> two to 35? >> not bad. you should get a candy bar. it is a little more than 300. but that is very doable. the person is offered a ballot to vote on the future of america. because adelaide thomas johnson's analysis is that we have already decided, we have decided on empire. and it is too late. i do not think so -- i do not
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think that we would be here for not optimists. i see some gray hairs in the crowd and i remind you, for those of us that had education in the 1950's and were trained to duck and cover and thought that it meant any minute, added the second, this could be the end of life as we know it. really come alive on our planet, because suddenly the nuclear warheads started, who would have bet the family farm that in our lifetime, the soviet union, our archenemy and tools we would be a war with, and nuclear war, devastating, that suddenly it would disappear? it would become russia. i should know because my winter home in st. petersburg, florida, named after saints petersburg, russia. so on monday, i approached our occupy and at a general
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assembly, we discussed occupy being a part of the severed. my hope is that occupy has two questions or three questions, no more than 10 questions, and our group will have one or two questions. we are inviting the afl-cio, the labor movement, to contribute a question, may be on should there be in new hampshire a living wage job guaranteed to every american car to mark remember, that was an fdr plank that never -- he died before he could really share that. but we are inviting, and there are three of us here that have a wonderful clipboard, and if you are from rockingham county, anybody here from rockingham? yes? well, ok.
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we have a county coordinor for rockingham and he is going gangbusters. we do not need many volunteers but you are an angel. you could help him. we will put you up with him, ok? but for the other counties, we have the beginning of of organization here in hillsboro. we have a wonderful new leader in merrimack, and glenn is right behind me, so we're beginning to pick aebt of this structure. to put together the structure. my hope is that through that, borrowing, and stealing, stealing in a joking way for our cameras, we're going to be another raise sufficient funds so that at least half of these places there will be of veteran standing tall and helpi with this project, offering citizens
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of ballots. and proper ivar unemployed or homeless vetans who will be paid at least the minimum wage. and i think -- and i thank occupy new hampshire for reminding me that that needs to be the standard, at least that much. we will be offering an occupant -- an opportunity for our citizens to weigh in. and you say yourself, this is a republican primary, and all the conservatives will turn out. isn't this going to be a message that i as an occupy person will be uncomfortable with? >> i trust my neighbors. i trust the people of new hampshire to take very seriously their responsibility for choosing the next president of the united states. i trust them to make these decisions and you know what? there is a republican presidential candidate that is probably better than any democratic presidential candidate running on this.
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so why -- i invite any questions ford two and minutes, 3 minutes on this project, and i will pass around -- if you think you have anywhere two hours or more on election day. >> we're depilate going to help them. we will bring some people out there, he is asking for 20 volunteers and they will not be paid, and then there will be veterans and homeless veterans and unemployed veterans who will be paid at least minimum wage. we will still be get better in part with eves, but this is one of those events that we're using as a staging the event. >> we are half the process to sign up on these clip boards to take shifts. what will be the process?
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>> we are reaching out. we have a number of diffent lists. when michael moore came to a preview in manchester hearing four years, i saw him in his town hall meeting in his press conference. i became a zealot on single payer health care and i signed up about 1000 people on a petition. >> let me repeat the question. how will people sign up for ships? >> if they sign this -- you mean these people here? if they're not here today, they can go to our website cracyorempire.org. we will have other ways to do it and we expect michael moore away and saying to let's do this.
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>> [unintelligible] we're just about, can you check with the other groups? does anyone have any questions? please ask questions for anything at all. >> i apologize if your party cover this. the actual the ballot or survey, whatever you might call i pal is that being designed and who is working onhe actual content? >> it will be a coalition effort. we will work together peridots coalition members including occupy will be able to identify present -- questions that they want asked. i urge occupy to give those out. we have invited the afl-cio to contributed? two. our group will have a question or two. we suspect they will be seven
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organizations. and their representatives -- occupy, that is math, he is calling. -- matt, he is still linked. we will work those questns of. just show your beautiful shirt for people. we have some of the other flyers. wean show you that handsome shirt on that handsome man, it is going to be modified with the following -- maybe i can just -- >> i need to interrupt. mic check. >> mic check. >> the time is expired. do we need to continue with the work groups are go with the
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meeting? >> 5 minutes. and then we will return -- and there is no firm date but it has to be in time to printed and distributed. i'm hoping that by the end of this month that we will have the questions submitted and we will ha the meeting to work out and hammer out a final question list. i think our drop date is the second root third of january. but you did not hear me say that. that is when the questions will happen. the earlier the better. we have some moderator's around the state and i should say that we met with sectary gardner yesterday, three people from occupy, veral of us from democracy or empire, jan grossman, who designed that beautiful logo on the front of
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his shirt, there because. she is the leader in new hampshire of new hampshire department of peace. so i think we have cleared the air. he knows what we' up to end our shirts are not electioneering. we can walk around polling places with them. we think all of what we want. we have established the ground rules. but getting some of the moderator's like in rockingham, the moderator said been contacted, what are weoing to have? so we want to follow through. >> anybody else that has something to say? we have covered the ballot for 10 minutes. we have four weather days. anyone with questions our success -- for other days. >> i am still trying to
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understand this. is it highly tactical or philosophical? in other words, if i am favor of collective bargaining rights for all american workers or i am in favor, i am opposed to new venture being a right to work state. i'll say that at is tactical on the other is philosophical. is it both, any, or all? >> this is going to be decided by the groups coming. what they want to ask. >> i hope it is more tactical. >> any other things that people want to bring up before we come back together to the full group? >> i can getyself down to the manchester meetings but, the notion of indirect action that we could collect cans for the new hampshire food bank, ford to a trickle of action at veterans,
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another concept that i had, which i would gladly court made. >> someone who would like to be a reporter for our group to give a quick summary of what we talked about during our time to get it? but for me begin with the full -- as we meet together with the full word? -- full group? >> how are we going handle that? >> i can give it a shot. >> all right, great. >> until we meet again. while we're waiting for the other groups to come together, i want to suggest a quick dollar around if you want to say what you intended to during the period leading up to the primary, what are you excited about? please go around. >> occupy durham.
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>> mic check. >> as following along the lines for citizens for tax justice, making the point that the american oligarch should not hijacked the u.s. economy. >> pass. >> because it cannot afford our own lobbyist, i see the occupy group as one big lobbyists. >> what you excited about doing? i am hoping to help peoplto do affected bird dogging about thesessues and the 99%. >> pass. >> our attorney general finally opened his eyes and is best to getting the fraud in this country. it was announced on friday. so i intend to continue to pressure him to investigate this further for the citizens of new hampshire.
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>> what you're excited aut doing leading up to the new hampshire's primary? >> my focus is on getting corporate money out of politics. show up and support. i am just going to go. >> what are you going to do? >> i am trying to get volunteers for housing for people who need it during the night. i am also supporting ed's project. >> what are you going to do? >> i am working with a group that is just beginning. we are hoping to organize a march in washington, d.c. this spring. it is essentially a retired people's group at this point. i do not know if it will stay that way. we are now working directly
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through occupy. >> we are getting togethern the room to get new offense going. >> we are meeting people and talking with people on public access show to educate people about the military-industrial complex and how many of the 1% our military contractors who are robbing and lying. >> you? >> i am very excited for the funeral. i don't know. i am excited. >> i am wendy. >> i will be working on dealing with sopa r the next few weeks. it is dealing with censorship. that is what i am working o on my end. i am also working with occpy.
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>> i am looking forward to the thing the republicans know that the movement exists here in new hampshire, not just for those city slickers. it is with these countryfolk. >> check out the fliers and information. we have several fliers for the primary. you just to point and click, print 100, and technical und never heard. you are responsible for making this movement big. thank you, everybody. >> somebody left their keys in the bathroom. >> keys track. >> , he's check. -- keys check.
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meeting know what is being discussed and things that are being proposed. as we finish, we want to try to finish around 4:00. we want to get out of the building by 4:15. afterward, we can discuss amongst each other and exchange contact data. if we can have a presentation from -- i will start, i guess. our group, some of the things we were discussing -- somebody has proposed that people use the color green as a color for designating support for occupy, for those who are in the counity but cannot come to the events on a regular basis. it is based on the concept of a proposal by a ruler in some part of europe during world war two,
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where they had a designation of armed bands that could be put on so that all of the jewish people could be put into concentration camps and tracked down by those armbands. "we have is a case in this situation and where the ruler of that particular kingdom said to all his people we are all going to wear this armband so the cannot figure out who is and who isn't. that was the original proposal. there was the idea of arm bands to show we are all part of it, even if you cannot find us in an encampment. >> everybody would wear it all the time. if you are going to work, where an armed band. -- wear an armband. if you are going to a banquet or something, you where the army and the. people would ask about the green arm band.
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then you can talk about occupy. i have a whole bunch if somebody wants them. >> trying to keep with the theme of moving quickly. you can see there is discussion of a gay pride rally, and a potential dance at the end of that. the arrangements for that are in the process. so if you want to contact, nashua is having a lot of it right now. we are looking for perhaps getting access through new hampshire institute of art for potentially doing arts and
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cultural events in an auditorium. we have been discussing a people's art event, which would be a display of art by local community members, and art around occupy. at the same time, we cod have poetry. satire is a form of art. there has been discussion of doing a film show of a couple of different films relative to the movement and activism in general, those types of things. there was discussion of what we have suddenly come across as an idea f what we call the people's law. that is a means by which communities of people who cannot make it to events, or disabled individuals who cannot get out
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and supplied a piece of their name artistically, or the hand print or something -- it will be put onto a surface that can be carried from location to location. we are the 99 that march. thes are the 99 that are the country. the idea is a mandala transport. iraq to quit, if we can get this to go further the new hampshire -- theoretically, a quick and get this to go further than new hampshire, we could get a wall with the names of all the people who support it built somewhere. i think that pretty much covered it, unless i missed anything. >> the people that are going to making banners and posters will be starting pretty soon, so we have a humongous amount of banners, posters, and stuffike
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that. >> i think we can have individuals do that as part of a committee on a regular basis, perhaps, in our individual locations. i think we also have to have a place to store them. but if people want to do this on an individual basis, i do not think we have to divide into a committee of five people them will handle all the siphonage -- all the signage. >> what about "welcome to the new hampshire occupy primaries"? >> i have atms for the credit union still in the basement. i recommend if you make signs, keep them in your car, or a friend's cart yr traveling, so
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you cannot just grab them, like i did today. >> who is ready to go next? anybody? >> i am sure i did. >> the events leading up to the primary and the primary itself, the most important thing to say is all of the events you can find on facebook under "occupy new hampshire primary." that site has all of the events. here is some of them. january 9, from 1:00 to 3:00, the veterans for peace. saturday, won a court to 2:30 -- 1:00 to 2:30 -- the events are in two hour slots.
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there is a march after that. there will be a band after that. marriage to a corporation is going to be one event. funeral for the american dream is going to be one event. there will be a sale the college. the organizing project will have a slot. we spent time talking about a project for an alternate voting place, and potentially as many potential polling places as possible. democracy or empire will be a series of questions. the website is democracy or empire dot org, all one word. >> i think you covered it all.
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tell us about the facebook event page. i would give you an idea of what i am doing, and how i nudge people. i would like you to join me, because i do not want to do much more. the event page has already 350 people attending and has 5000 invited. many are part of occupy new hampshire. open the invited list and open a tab for each person. you say, "hello, jim smith. i am from occupy new hampshire. i hope your doing well. please rsvp join for this event, evenf you cannot attend." the perception of large attendance will create a large attendance. you are creating messages for people on the invited list, try to nudge them oto the joy and west.
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anybody who could help with that, or if you have proposals of anything, just type occupy the nh primary at gmail. if you know musicians, artists, and community advocacy groups, call anybody you knoand collect -- connect people. it is all about connection. >> there are lots of open slots in the schedule. keep checking the facebook page to get an update. >> media attack -- media/tech? >> that is not even connected to anything. we had a pretty small group, so we did not get to cover a whole lot. "we came up with was a list of resources we want to make available to every occupy
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throughout the state. that will be posted in the coming days, also on occupy your media dot com. it is a new system we are working on developing. please check that out. the resources that are going to be listed are the obvious one like the website. there are some others that people might not know about, like the radio show. its always looking for people to come on and speak. there are also tv shows across the state that expressed interest in having as come and speak to them on their shows. that information will be available as well. content for occupy radio is something we were talking about. it is a radio show. they are always looking for people in the weekly show, i believe.
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the media team for occupy has professionalfrom video and audio. we came up with the idea of having a workshop before the primary. we have not word out a location or date yet. we are just trying to gauge interest in a workshop to teach people to make professional- looking video on a shoestring budget, so that we do not get youtube videos with shaky stuff and poor audio. with a few small adjustments, we can get engaging content. that is something we are trying to hammer out. is there anything i missed? does anybody know the number? we have an occupy new hampshire hot line. >> [inaudible]
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>> that is something to look into. there are a few people who know how to do that. not nearly enough. that is something we might bring up in me -- the ga's throughout the week. this is informational. some people are not comfortable with the media. >> i want to throw this out here. we are looking foruests' honor public, access show december 27 or january 3. -- we are looking for guests on our public access show december 27 or january 3. >> i think that is it. clarifying question? >> i have only heard man talk. -- men talk.
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>> ok. can we get legal aid? that is the police. >> there is an outstanding invitation from -- >> come to the microphone. >> there you go. >> there is an outstanding invitation from the manchester pd. we should take this seriously. whoever went to the manchester pd m dialogues with them would have no clue. there is an opportunity for me
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to tell all of you. all of us is going to be on the new hampshire primary and are going to be affected with this. all of our programming and planning, if we get arrested, there is no new hampshire primary. discuss anything you like about whether we should go or we should ignore it. but we will take the risk of whatever comes up. we will take it. in the manchester ga, we have not gotten the chance to talk about it are making a resolution. and th is the best place for this, statewide. occupy manchester are going to be affected. also, the people coming to the new hampshire primary.
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i wanted to let everybody know that we're n going to speak up for you there. i do not want to be the spoken here and somebody took for me. i want to talk for myself. >> clarifying question. we do record names and numbers, so maybe monday we can have a little more clarity on ts. could people call and give a name and number if they were interested in meeting with the police, so we can call them monday with clarification? >> i have no problem with that. but i think it is very important that people know, because there will be affected by this. >> a response? >> i just want to point out it is quite difficult to get arrested at these events. it is extraordinary. so do not worry much.
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>> we still have an aclu lawyer who is one to represent us, right? i do not know who it is. i am just saying. >> we are going to be represented by the lawyer? >> you will get more clarity on monday, if you are interested. just leave your name and number. it will happen this week, the meeting with police, if you are interested. >> you can watch they occupy new hampshire plans in its entirety by logging onto c-span.org. tomorrow on "washington journal ,"
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