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presidential campaign. after that, a discussion on surveillance and privacy issues. and later, the national transportation board will talk about their role as an independent federal agency live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c- span. >> i always knew there was a risk in the bohemian pastime and i decided to take it because whether it is an illusion or not, i don't think it is, it helped my concentration. it stopped me being bored. it would keep me awake and they want the evening to go on longer and have a long conversation. if i was as if i would do it again, the answer is probably yes. i would hope to get away with

the whole thing. it is easy for me to say. the truth is, it would be hypocritical of me to say no. everyone knows. i decided all of life as a waiter and i will wager on this bit. i cannot make it come out of the other way. even regret it. though i should. it is just impossible for me to pick to live without this. feeling the company and keeping me reading and traveling and energizing. >> thursday, a journalist, christopherit hichens passed away at the age of 62.

watch his nearly 100 cspan appearances archived on line at the cspan video library. >> now republican presidential candidate rick santorum holding a town hall meeting in the southeastern part of the state produces part of the formal petzel and his centrist free and campaign tour of iowa. he became the first 2012 republican presidential candidate to visit all 99 counties early this year. the iowa caucuses are scheduled for january 3. this is about one hour, 25 minutes. right before the debate as a matter of fact.

i have been 25 years in a foxhole. . love the campaign to ri my hand to ask me for my vote, i respect that. that is what a candidate is supposed to do. one candidate did that -- rick santorum. i voted for him at the straw poll, based on that one thing. he had trust in us as iowa to get this right. as the campaign progresses, there are candidates that will jump in. we finally set a date -- january 3. these are the candidates front of us. i got in the game. i immediately got in the game. my heart was always with rick santorum. it was an easier decision with

me the most. but i tell you it was easy to come to that in -- to that conclusion, because for 25 years i was in foxholes that rex santorum was diving into in washington d.c. -- life, marriage, families, the social issues, fiscal issues, and foreign policy issues. everything we pour into our platform, rick santorum was fighting, good times and bad. you see the kind of candidates i am attracted to. the 99 county tour earned our respect. is trust, but the willingness to fight, the extra thing. we know weave a fight ahead. it is not over in november 2012.

there is another obama standing right behind him. we know that we do this every four or eight years. every election is the most critical. we are at a tipping point. we have to be fighters. a year ago, and it might have been not the last time i was here, but maybe the last time i was campaigning -- a year ago, i was the campaign manager that worked to boot the three judges out. there was one of the candidate's standing on the stage that came to iowa and stood in the foxhole with us. that was rick santorum. he was out here, going around iowa, helping educate and campaign to send a message to the judiciary and help us move those three judges. so i am in the foxhole with him, beuse i believe there is one

candidate that has the platform that matches hours. -- ours. one candidates unwavering in good and bad cycles. there is only one candidate -- one can did it -- that can take this fight to the left and win in on the values we hold dear. that one candidate is senator rick santorum. [applause] >> thank you very, very much. i appreciate that. it is great to be here with you. chuck has been travelling with me throughout southwest iowfor the last few days. i greatly appreciate his support and guidance throughout this set of primary -- this caucus time. i have to admit when there is a fl up here i feel compelled to ask everybody to stand. we start our meeting and say the pledge, and then we can go on with our town meeting.

does anybody mind saying the pledge of allegiance? i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands. one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. thank you very much. thank you so much. i do not know how many times -- [applause] she has put together events for me here. one time, we had a very small crowd. ever since, she has put the last two events for me here, and we have done well. so i know who is the power here in this county. thank you so much for helping us out. i know you are helping all the candidates out, and i appreciate the great work the folks here do to let this caucus worked as well as it does. you know, i for started coming

here. the governor was running for governor at the time. i was talking about it. he was asking whether i was serious about running. i probably would not have the resources of everybody else. he said you cannot buy iowa. you have to work. if you are willing to work hard -- obviously, chuck's mantra of getting all 99 counties. when i finally got -- about a month or two ago, when i finally got to all 99 counties -- i did not drive through all 99 counties. i did not stop and waved. i have done about 350 town hall meetings just like this. it is not just a speech. we talked for a few minutes and then open for questions and let the people of iowa, what they e thinking. i said to chalk, when i ran into him and one of these speeches -- i have been to all 99 counties.

he looks right back at me and said "you haven't for 30 years, have you?" i was 20 years old 30 years o. i have had a wonderful opportunity to get around, and as i mentioned it to almost 350 town hall meetings. we will have that done by the end of this week. i am feeling very flattered. i was talking earlier with chalk. i said, "it is going to be reared in a couple of weeks. whatever happens, i will be out of iowa for a while, and it will be really strange." you go to these states, going state to state, a week or two at a time, and do not have the kind of opportunity you have here. i really think the people of iowa. i think they have made me a better candidate. i think they will make me a better president, and i think

they have made me a better person. i mean that. i have had a wonderful experiment -- experience. it is a great experience to have. it is really something special about the folksf iowa. here we are at saturday afternoon, when you have things to do, and you come out because you are concerned about your country and have a special obligation. you do have a special obligation as iowans. you fight very hard. they fight very hard to make sure you are first. i know you take that responsibility seriously. here is what i would say to you. please take that responsibily seriously and do not deferred judgment to others. do not let national polls are some national pundit who has not set foot in iowa or spent time getting to know the candidates, or paying attention oth than occasionally watching a debate where you do not get a chance to see much of anything, except

half the time the moderator is talking, not the folks in the debate -- trust your own judgment. trust your instincts. go with whatou think is in the best interest of the country. you folks to take the irresponsibility of learning more about the candidates than anybody else. how many people have seen another candidate so far in person in this race? it is over 2/3 of the people in this room. several of you i have met before. this is not the first time. i have seen several of you. you take this responsibility seriously. trust your judgment. i have one word to the people of iowa. lead. you need to lead. go out there and tell the people of america, after you have had the exposure to see the candidates and measure them up, to kick the tires, to look them in the eye, to see what is in their hearts and souls -- you

take the responsibility of leading. do not deferred justice -- judgment to others who do not have the experience you do. we have come to the heartland because we want to make sure the values are represented. we have been on our faith, family, and freedom tour, traveling iowa and state -- and south carolina and new hampshire. we try to deliver a message about what is at stake in this country, and what values are at stake. i know the number one issue in this country, without question, is the economy. it is the most important thing. we have seen a lot of discussion in past debates about the economy. i put forward a bold plan that balances the budget in five years. i know one of the sponsors of this event -- i do not know if she is back there somewhere, with strong american now.

she will come back after i am done and has a caucus education video for those of you might not be familiar with the caucus process. strong america now is trying to provide educational support. that will be available after the town hall meeting for you to look at. i pledge to strong arican now that i will commit to balance the budget in five years. i have already laid out -- i am putting together a road map of how to cut $5 trillion over five years. that is pretty bold. will use process improvements that business has applied to ma sure the room a productive and efficient operation. the have to compete with the rest of the world. the government does not compete with anyone. they just have to borrow more or tax you more. we need to do better than that. i signed on with most of the people in this race. we will put in process improvements and other typesf

efficiency standards in the federal government. also, it is not just that. it is reducing the role of the federal government. there are 72 entitlement programs in washington, d.c. the vast majority of those, as far asoney is concerned, are operated by the state government. why? because that a state functions, but some of the federal government thinks they have a role to play in doing a state function. we need to say the federal government should not have a role in the functions. we should eliminate federal control or these things, a block grant money, cut it, cap it, send it back to the states, and do what we did with welfare reform. i know newt takes credit. he was speaker of the house. but i was in the house of representatives, the ranking member of the subcommittee, and

chaired the group who wrote the bill that was in the contract with america on welfare. when i came to the senate, and manage the bill on the floor of the senate in mfirst year in the senate. why? i wrote the bill, and i knew a lot about the subject matter. i can always say that i certainly did not write the whole bill. there were things from all the members. it was an elaborate process. but i would argue there was as much me in that bill as any other member of the senate or house. we worked very hard on the floor to get the consensus to be able to get the votes necessary to force president clinton to stop vetoing the bill and sign it. we got 70 votes, almost half the mocratic caucus voting to end a federal entitlement, block grant it, ship it back to the states, and change it from a dependency program to a transitional program. we need to do that to medicaid, housing, training programs. all of these things should be

time limited. i have a work requirement as part of receiving these benefits. they should be transitional in nature. who has done this? i have. we worked together. we were able to put together an effort that got bipartisan support for stuff that has never been done before or since. we need to do a lot more of that. i have put tether a plan to shrink the federal government, to get this growing, to put together -- we call it made in the usa money. we are the only candidate talking about how to get the manufacturinsector growing. we need to cut taxes. we need to simplify the code. it is a bold plan. a lot of people say we will eliminate the irs who is quick to collect taxes? is the federal government going to run on no taxes? will have to have some sort of tax collection agency. i love folks that promise things

you cannot do. we have to have a tax code and collect taxes. i am not want to eliminate the irs. i would just like a simple code so you do not have to worry about the irs. we will have two rates -- 10% and 28%. 28% sun was the high rate under rona reagan, the top rate. the was the 1986 tax act. if it is good enough for ronald reagan, it is good enough for me. ronald reagan was able to get it through a democratic caucus. ok to what we can accomplish, what we can pass, andhat is translation. we replace the it te -- the code with 5 detections -- children, charity, pensions, health care, and housing. i have to tell a story. i took a shot at rick perry, so i have to tell something funny. perry and i were next to each other not relax -- not the last

debate, the one before. he was answering a question on the drones in iraq. he said there are two things president obama can do. he said, wait a minute, there are three things he can do. i thought, "ono." -- oh, no." let him get all three out. i like him. he is aice guy. he gets all three of them. he ends the question. but as the next question of somebody else. he leans over to me and said, "i was taking quite a risk, going with the third one." i said, "i was praying for you." i always say prefer everyone, and good things can happen because of it. i lost my train of thoht. i don't know what i was talking about. i was talking about the five deductions.

that would simplify the code. those are the five pillars of the tax code that most people consensus believe should continue to support of this critical economic time. the corporate tax -- cut it in half, from 35% to 17.5%, and make it a simple net profits tax with a rearch and development tax credit. we should continue to incentivize research and development. when it comes to manufacturing, we will eliminate the corporate tax. 35% tax now, 0 going forward. if you make things in america -- if you make things in america, you pay no corporate tax. you are saying, "why would you tax folks here at this restaurant 17%, and the folks down the street, who manufacture, nothing? is that fair?" my answer is they will not take

the restaurant to china. but they may take the manufacturing jobs, and they have repeatedly, to a lot of other places. we need to compete. we do not have to compete for restaurant business with mexico. a mexican restaurant, but not mexico. we need to make sure we can aduately compete, but we are not. that is where we are losing jobs. i asked the assiation of manufacturers. they said that if you exclude labor costs -- people say we are losing jobs because labor costs are high. let's take those out of the equaon. are we competitive with our top nine trading partners, with whom we do the majority of our business? the answer is we are not. according to the national association of manufacturers, which are 20% more expensive than our trading partners in manufacturing. we are not losing jobs because labor costs alone. we are losing it because of high

taxes, high cost of capital, high energy prices, and a higher litigation and regulatory environment. what are we going to do? we are going to change it. we eliminate the corporate tax. i was in its s.e.c. said the two days ago, not far from here. right before the debate as a matter of fact. i was at the cattle company cattle company? right on 20. i did a little town hall meeting just like this. there was a table of folks having lunch. i said hello. they said they work a little of all manufacturing here. i said, would that help eliminating the coorate income tax? he said that would be great. we would have an opportunity to

grow. acidy have an overseas operation? they said we do. i said would you bring those profits back? they said we decided to leave them over there for now. i said what if we eliminated the tax and you invested your capital here. he said we would do it tomorrow. we would grow a plan her and create more jobs here. we would bring the money back -- and we would put it and plant equipment. number three is regulations. some day this week in the wall street journal they did an analysis of the number of regulations the obama administration put in place you can see clinton and bush are like this and then obama. the average under clinton was 50 a year. bush is 60 a year. i think with all, it is like 85. it is going up exponential. it is supposed to be like 150 this year.

these are regulations that cost business over $150 million each. these are the big and expensive ones. they are exploding because this president believes he can run your business better than you can run your business. he has an agenda as you heard in his speech in kansas the other day, he does not believe in the free market or capital nice anymore. he believes he is the great read distributor of wealth. we believe in equality of results, not equality of opportunity. it is nomy vision or the a american vision. is not who we are or who we have ever been. that is the vision in france and england, it is not the vision of america. it is the reason my grandfather came to this country. he wanted a country that believed in him, not an bureaucracies and kings and the

bureaucrats. under my plan, we eliminate every obama regulation that cost over $100 million a year which would be almost every obamacare regulation. there is a clean-air regulation going into a factor now. eight democrats in the senate have said they want to suspend -- they want to stop from going in place because it will shut down 60 coal power. -- plants over the next few years. there is no way to get there by building more green energy. now i have figured out how they will get there. there are going to get rid of all the other energy and have less energy but have green energy be a bigger percentage. is that not a great idea for a cheaper electric rates and more reliability? this is a president that is more committed to ideology than he is to you or to the american

people. he does not believe in you. he believes in government. he believes in the ideology and he laid it out very clear. it is an ideology that divides in america. it pits those who have against those who have not. it is the 90 -- it is about 55/45, enough for him to comfortably when. ladies and gentlemen, i have a very good plan that will turn this economy around. cheaper energy and less regulation and manufacturing will explode. going to places like denison and the south was corner of the state. when i was down outside of hamburger which just cut 200 average job secured when i was in newton, we e seeing manufacturing jobs leave small

town i know what just like they've left my small town that i left -- that i grew up in buer, pennsylvania. i found this to be the case in iowa, now that i have been to 99 counties i have been almost every small town. most of these towns were based on some kind of manufacturing economy. what happens is, not only did we lose jobs and we went from 21% of the people to 9%, not only did it affect blue-collar a america which has a 10% plus unemployment rate as compared to college-educated americans, not only will it help bring manufacturing jobs back that pay $20,000 a year more than the average job in america, it will also help small town and rural america. there's not anybody in this room that does not have a kid or grand kid that is living in denison who is living in the

morning or chicago or somewhere else -- why is that? because the jobs are not here. when they go to the city, and they go from main street and a small town america to big city america. whether we like it or not, the valleys of small-town america are carried different than big city america. look at a map of the united states, you will see all of this red accept in these little dark dense areas of blue what we are seeing is those areas of blue getting lower and lower and more and more people in the areas of red ain read but with your people out there. it means the valleys of the americas is ing to start to change because we do not have the economic opptunities out here in small-town rural in america. that is why i am parcularly passionate about helping blue- collar salt of the earth folks being able to live out here in

all-town america and be able to do so to provide for their families. that is a that the reason we are promoting the made in the usa plan. final. and then i will open up for questions. the idea that we can have a small economy without -- a strong economy without families being strong in america is a fallacy. you have aip -- you have a lot of republicans running around and the only want to talk about the economy. people say be need a truce of family value issues. you think about that. a truce -- that means it stop fighting. as conservatives, we want to stop fighting on the moral culture issues. 1.2 million abortions in america. we are only in the family. gay marriage has now been forced on the people in iowa as it has and several other states and is being forced in the courts of other places. if we have leaders will sit back

and let that hpen. -- if we have a truce we will sit back and let that happen. the number of people married and a america -- a report, this past week. it is at an all-time low. it dropped 5%. 30 years ago 70% of people over the age of 18 were married, it is now 51%. the state of marages and a crisis. let's have a truce. let's not do anything. let surrender. at the. we are in right now, tourists is a surrender and i will not surrender. -- truce is a surrender. it is important for the economy of our country. i am trying to remember the -- o people out of the brookings -- if you did two things in a america, you could almost be certain to avoid poverty.

two things that are very achievable. but what those two things be? graduate from high school. two, anybody know? get married. you graduate from high school and get married. isn't that what everyone did? they graduate from high school and got married. in many cases, right after they graduated from high school. what happened? the poverty rate in america among two parent families is 8%. the poverty rate among single heads of households -- single moms and single dads -- i am not knocking single moms and single dads.

i happen to think they are the most heroic people in american families because they are doing the jobs of two people. they are doing the job that somebody else walk away fm work the problem tha somebody is not participating in fully. they are doing the job of two people. it is harder than doing the job of a mom and dad and whether you are a bomb and a dad as a father, i would not be a good mother. they are different. you have to provide and nurture. one is hard enough, doing both is really hard. this is not a knock on single moms, but the bottom line is the poverty rate is approaching 40%. what does that mean? that means whefamilies break down, or does that go? government. poverty rates are higher, they

need support. government has to get bigger to provide the suppor the idea that we can have any kind of family structure we wa anything will be fine, that has been the watchword for the past decade. all families are the same. anybody can get married. anybody can live together. do whatever you want. it does not matter. it does matter. it matters for children and mothers and fathers. you know the service, who are the happiest people in america? people who are married. we know all this, does the government do anything to support it? no, we do not. do we try to encourage in our law? >> no, we cannot. hillary clinton wrote a book, does anyone know what it was called? "it all takes a village." i wrote a book in response to it called "it takes a family."

i have written one book about the one thing i really care about. karen and i have been married 22 years. we have seven that we are raising that are a live. we feel very blessed. i know how central and important family is to america. i know how important it is for me and what i am able to do. i could not do anything. if i was a single parent, i could not do anything. run for president? i could not do that. the idea of what is possible because we have committed relationships. imagine if we had a govnment that nurtud and supported that. that actually encourage that. that actually celebrated that. what what the effect on society and the economy?

i wrote a book about it. i really do believe we are missing the boat. i know people say "you have to be quiet abouthe social issues." he will be labeled as a social conservative candidates. it is common sense, folks. americans are, i think, ready to hear the truth. ready to hear what is common sense and what works and america. we just have to ha the courage to talk about it. you will have somebody that has the courage to do that. final point, there are two question that every i one has to ask right now. at least that is what i have been told. he the two things you have to decide is, numbeone, what is the first priority for you in this primary? you want to elect somebody that can -- number one, who is the best person to be au >> . no. two, who can restore the country to the values and principles of limited government and free enterprise

and respect for traditional moral values with a stronger america to protect and keep us safe. it is pretty much what we are looking for. who can do that? who will be able to do that? i would make the argument if you look at the field and there are some good people, there really are, i would say that any of them would be an improvement. the only person i would say who would not be an improvement is ron paul in national security. i do not believe he would be an improvement over barack obama, and that is a very low bar. but he would not. other than ron paul, everyone in this race would be an improvement over barack obama by leaps and bounds. it is not a criticism of them, but just a comparison.

people said, rick, we like you. they said, we like you and we are -- you are on our list. but you cannot win. who says i cannot win? the pundits because they never talk about you. they did not give you any time in the debates. heas lt? herman cain with seven. that is because he list the last two debates. he was tied with them? me. because i was in every debate. huntsman was ahead of me. they're not giving you time to go out and an election cycle that has been very debate centered. what are you going to do about that?

what are you going to do? how would you convince people you are going to win? what is the way to convince you as twhether someone is going to be successful in doing sothing? maybe whether they have been successful in the past and doing it. american samoa performance is an indication of future success. if you said that on your perspective shoes, you would be thrown in jail. who in this field have one -- there are four folks who have run for congress. you ran for congress in a heavily democratic congressional district and one? any one of the four? need. --me. he was able to be a democratic incumbent to win the first congressional race of the four? me.

who was redistricted into a district -- by the way, a 14- year democratic incumbent. he was put into a 24-year incumbent in a 71% district and one their election? me. i voted as an 81% conservative rating in that district. here are two folks to win statewide elections. who was able to win an election in a democratic state as a conservative? he was able to win an election as a conservative between the three folks who have won statewide? me. he was able to win a swing state, a state that would be essential and possible -- impossible to win in order to win the presidency. me. he defeated a docratic incumbent to win a swing state

his campaign was managed by james carville? me. he was able to get reelected in a swing state after having a 93% conservative voting record, being the leader of all pro- life issues and the united states senate, where reforming the welfare system and ending the entitlement, and lead on national-security issues to strengthen ourilitary. in a year that george bush lost by five and a person won michigan -- won by six, me. i find it interesting that with almost 1 million more registered democrats than republicans against an incumbent and a tough challenge that i cannot win, but all of these people who have never been a democrat, never won in a swing

area or democratic area as a conservative, they have a better chance of winning. based upon what? they are more moderate. that is what they think when they say he can't win. it is that they are more moderate. they say that about 48 w. bush against ronald reagan. they said, we have to be for bush because he can win. in this election here is what we need. we need somebody who can present a clear contrast with is president. the national media and $1 billion in the obama coffers is quality ward whoever the republican nominee is for president and to what? in to a right-wing conservative crazy man. they are going to try to paint -- they made john mccain a

conservative. imagine that. if you can make john mccn a conservative you can make anybody a conservative. it will put this person to the far right. how about having somebody who actually believes the conservati ideas and fought for them and is willing to stand up and say, yes, that is exactly what i believe. not? and said, i believe this then and i believe that now and i am sort of here and there. that is what john mccain did. it does not work. people want somebody that they trust. in this election, people will say how did you and pennsylvania. not because people agree with me. a lot of folks did not aee with me. they trusted me. the trust that i would do what i was going to do. that is what i did. that is how we were able to win. with that level stop and be happy to take your questions. >> i have been looking for a job lately. lucky said, most of the ia

jobs are gone. my brother in law as well as looking for a job. he just got laid off. his last day was december 16. nine days before christmas. the probleis, des moines is one of the biggest papers in the state and they are classified as -- about one- fourth as a page. my problem is all the jobs are out there in iowa, we have a lot of manufacturing people who are trying to find jobs d the only place to find jobs is a north dakota because of the oil. >> we could do what if we would build a pipeline which am for and the president is not for. i give the congress credit. they look like they are going to stick that pipeline provision on every single bill that passes and they should. they should put it on every bill. as dead man the president makes a decision. he should not play politics with

it. that is the amazing thing about the president. it is so blatant. i am going to pull the troops out of afghanistan. when? how about two months before the election. everything the president does is foced on his on political survival and a 10 dead. let's extend the debt ceiling. what should we extend it? how about past november 2012. if this was a republican it would be stringing him up. it would be terrible. the bottom line is, we have a president who is focused purely on his own reelection, purely on dividing inmerica. i have put together a plan and its manufacturing plant. the reason i put it together is because i think it is the best plan. i think it will help blue- collar america. i also think it will pass. it has the kind of support from

areas like michigan, ohio, pennsylvania that are important manufacturing states and processing states where there are democrats elected he will vote for a bill like that because that puts their people back to work. when i put these things together, i put bold plans out there. when you come from a state like pennsylvania, you cannot think as a purist. you have to think how can i te conservative principles and adapt them to get the support necessary to move the ball. the president does not think that way. he is an ideologue. he is driven by his own ideas. he was successful his first year because he did not have to compromise. says that first year went by, he has got nothing done. he has been unwilling to do things that reach out and try to bring people together from a common point of view.

>> my oldest daughter receny returned from her second tour in the gulf and my son had three tours. >> thank you so much. >> are supposed commander in chief is witrawing our troops from the gulf. he is dismantling our missile program and hours base program. what message is that sending to our military and what message would be sent to our military? >> the first priority of the federal government is national security. it has to be. why? it is the only thing the federal government does that nobody else can do. can somebody else -- can the state provide health care program for its people? sure. education? sure. you look at all the other things federal government does the state can do it accept national security. even border security, you could say those states could do it.

the one thing they cannot do is they cannot go out and organized militias to go out and defend the country. the federal government has to do that. the president's chief function in the constitution as commander in chief of the country. when i talk to people and they say that the economy is the most important issue, it is now. it may not be by november of next it very well may be national security. if we have an explosion go often to iran, if it's as they have a nuclear weapon, this election will not be about the economy. it will be about what we are going to do to keep the country say if from a country that will be prevailing care. they have a nuclear weapon that could drop on somebody that could cause cataclysmic war. that is why we have to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon.

number one, would not cut the military budget. i would allow for wages and benefits to continue to rise at the rate of inflation. the rest of the military bget that would freeze for three years. depending on national security issues. if we are at a different position from the standpoint of iran and others, that may not be possible. from a budgetary standpoint, the last place i will go to cut is the military. when i say cut, i do not mean change. i mention strong america -- will put that in the defense department also. it is one of the things i signed on to it because it has proven to have savings that the defense department. we are going to put a priority -- anybody know what percentage we spend on defense roughly?

about 20%, as did we spend 50 years ago on defense? -- how much did we spend 50 years ago onefense? 60%. when ron paul says we have all this defense industrial complex, th is baloney. defense has gone down by two- thirds. we have to look at all of the other areas first. as commander in chief, we will protect -- defense is a priority. no. two, i will say to our men and women in uniform that i will deploy eu only where there is a national security interest in our country. not you got that or the condo, that is not a national security issue. -- not uganda or congo, that is not a national security issue. does that mean we should not be involved inumanitarian

purposes, of course we should. not with our military. if there is a crisis we should help, but never use our military unless it is in the national security of our country. the president has violated that twice. in libya and central africa. that is my second commitment to the men and women in uniform. my third commitment is we will be on the advance and offense and making sure our country is safe in the war against radical islam. i will name the enemy of like the president who has sanitized every document. the fort hood report -- remember forehead where he went in there and shut everybody up? in that report the word muslim, is long, the job is never mentioned. --jiha islam is never mentioned.

this is the kind of political correctness that loses wars. in misinforms the public so they do not have the stomach to fight the war. i will tell the truth. i will tell the truth that every man and woman who serves in the gulf was. you asked e.g. hottest whether they are in a police war with america, what will they tell you? they will say, yes, they are. we may not be in a holy war, and we are not. we need to recognize that they are and what motivates them. we need to tell the arican public the truth. i will do that. i will tell the truth to our troops. >> i told you at the beginning i saw you at the debate. i did not know if you got the

chance to answer the question or not, but i know rick perry did it out security. where is your stand on that? >> i commend the senator. he has been tenacious. i served with them on the finance committee when he was chairman. chalk is dogged. having them on your tail, i would not miss that -- and wish that on anybody. they will get to the bottom of this. the need to. they need to hold him accountable. it seems clear to me that he may not be being forthright. in my opinion, we have a track record of eric holder not being forthright. he was not for a threat on the clinton pardon of the sky mark rich or he seemed to lead -- misleading congress. he is performing his duty and

one of the most partisan fashion is that i have ever seen. not enforcing laws -- selectively enforcing laws. he does it with emigration were they made selective enforcement of immigration laws. they are doing it with employment discrimination and other kinds of eeoc claims. there is only one type of discrimination, that is minorities being discriminated against. if you are right on a minority, you cannot be discriminated against. that is not written in our laws. it is with him he would not enforce doma because he does not agree with it. the problem is, he is doing exactly what the president wanting to do. he is not robust. i said the other nine that would fire him. -- he is not rogue. i would fire him. i do not think he tells the truth.

that mak it even more reprehensible. the more they can put eric holder, the better as far as i am concerned. >> i do remember when he said that, i remember rick perry saying he would ask and to resign. he said he would fire him. >> there is no greater defender of the second to admit men in the congress and i was. i believe it is an individual right. having guns is not for hunting. a candy for hunting and shooting. i have been out hunting pheasant here. i was hunting the other day with steve king. we talked quite a few pheasants out of the air. -- wheat not quite a few pheasants out of the air. we do not have guns for hunting, we have guns for self- defense. we have guns because that was the right they give each of us to be able to protect ourselves

and our freedom. that is why it is the second amendment. they did not put the right to bear arms down at the bottom. it is pretty important. the founders put these amendments in order for reason, they wanted to show how importt the amendments were to fundamental liberties. the bill of rights. freedom of conscience first as it should be. and then that things that come with freedoms of conscience, to be a but think and believe what you want a beleaguered best fundament second is to be of a suspected, write it, and gathering people together to practice it. and the second one is, have begun to make sure someone cannot take it from you. -- have gun to make sure someone cannot take it from you. that is ouronders soccer you not find anyone strong from the second amendment in may. and there people in this race

who were not strong on the second amendment, including the top two people in this race or not strong in the second amendment. i think there is another differentiator in this. yes. >> produce stand on illegal immigration? where do you stand on illegal immigration pressure market -- illegal immigration? >> i amnestied king republican on that. i'm a first-generation american. my father came to this country when he was 7 years of age. my grandfather came to this country legally, worker for five years, earned enough money to make that his citizenship, brought the rest of the family of her. he left his family and my father for five years. he saw his father for a onetime and dulles for couple months. -- and that was for a couple of months. we have people saying that we

should not separate families. people separate from families all the time to come to america, to have the opportunity to be free here. and by the way, he did not come here because to get benefits. from 1922 -- in 1925, there were not benefits. i should not say that, there were huge benefits. freedom, the opportunity to pursue your trees. and it was a tough job, he worked in a coal mine in a company town. it means that -- i don't know if you know what a company town start, i don't know if they had them here in iowa, but we had company towns where the mine operation owned houses, on the store, you get paid in two funds, not cash. by grandfather figure out pretty soon that that was a dead end and so he took less money for cash. as opposed to the coupons. he worked hard to create freedom for me and made that sacrifice. and the idea because someone can

across here as newt has said was here for x number of years and now he is a 25, a little loop year before that, now is 25. someone his hair for 25 years that we should not separate from their families, while if you are a 25-year-old knew that three kids and, and you break the law, and leasing it to joe, should we send you to jail because you of family? you broke the law. should we go compassionate and not separate you from your family for five years or whatever it is because it would be cel and inhumane? if people do something -- the idea again that somebody comes into this country and i think newt said that if they had been working and paying taxes, if you are in this country illegally, and you are working and paying taxes, what have you done? you have stolen some 1 social

security number and work illegally. right? you're breaking the law there. so the idea that we have someone to is seriouy breaking the law, which you have to do and i understand that they are here and they put themselves in a position where they now have to break the law to stay here in order to survive, but do not create this picture that they have not done anything wrong. that is why said, look, i have compassion for them, but there are laws. and there is justice that has to be done. right now i do not think newt has a right on that. we have to enforce the law. i give the president credit. he has and forestall a lot more vigorously than president bush has, but the a selective enforcement. is not to boarding everyone at that time, only certain people and we need to be much more broad based on this. need to be toughening -- tougher on employers. steve king just offered a new

bill that says that even you are an employer and employee someone as an illegal and you do not use the verified -- e-verify, that you cannot deduct the wages and benefits of the person you employed if they were illegal. retroactively. it is a pretty big hit and a pretty big fine for hiring someone. a very big incentive to use the means necessary to find who is illegal in this country as a safe hbor against that penalty. in a ready else? yes, sir. >> all the topics you have talked about, you're absolutely correct. and you brought up families and social issues. if you look around this audience, i think you'll see the age of most of this year, a lot of us here have lived in america since it was different from the america that we know now.

all of these topics, if they are corrected in one decade, if we do not get the morality in this country turned around, it will go for naught anyway. it will go down the cesspool. i have a sime question. no, i do not know if anything can be done for the ftc, but can anything be done for the movement of the television and the special activities, the profanity, violence, and it increases the moral decadence of this country, can anything be done about that? >> interesting that you bring that up because this is the topic was involved in when i was in the senate. when you have seven children and you see the sewage that flows into your house from the table

-- from the table in the internet -- cable and the internet and you realize the damage it is doing to the moral values of their children, not just physical damage, but damage to the morality, doing damage to their, to there, to having normal relationships with people of the opposite sex. i mean, it just stroy is -- it just destroys what gomade is a beautiful thing and turns it into something ugly and sort of primal. so i thought, could we do something? i have worked with john mccain to try to pass a bill, to try to do some things to protect kids on the internet. the supreme court said it was unconstitutional. i think the supreme court is wrong. i think they are dead wrong.

i can tell you, i will do whatever i can as president through executive order, to the regulatory process, and i will fight the courts. and they can strike down my regutions and strike and i will fight them again. i think they're wrong on this issue. you do not have the right in my opinion, the first amendment was not there to corrupt people in america with pornography and horrible violence and sexual violence in the things that are going on out there. that is not a protected right, in my opinion. that is a dangerous thing to a culture. and i think the court is going overboard on that issue. nuer one. number two, when i left the united states senate, one of the things i decided to do was to stay involved in this fight marion because i believe culture is upstream from politics. you know what that means. you do not want to put things upstream -- do not drink from

the creek, do not drink downstream from the herd, pretty basic thing. we are drinking downstream from the herd. and we're getting some pretty rancid water. which i tried to attack the herd, if you will, the culture. i did that in congress as best i could, in working with trying to encourage people of means, nservatives, to get more involved in the culture, in the production of the culture, in making movies and television and writing and plays and books and novels. to have positive cultural artifacts, if you will, instead of the negative ones. and there's been some improvement in at regard, but we have got a long way to go. and while there are artifacts and good things out there, you see more films that are family friendly, and all the pg rated films and peachy-13 films do

better than the other films, but hollywood still makes them. because they have enough -- they have their own agenda. and it is very clear. look forward which controls hollywood has a big agenda because they are trying to change america upstream from politics. and we all know course that many was that they have done that and the many issues in which they have done it with. when i left the senate, i decided i needed to stay involved with that so i actually for almost three years helped run a little technology company said the people could say, have you ever had a business experience, i have. and it was business experience, something i care very passiotely about, the technology to work on a tv are dvr to have parents at it television content, if you wanted to pay an episode of csi, you could choose things

that you did not want to see like graphic violence are different levels of comic violence, 10 different areas of violence, very mild to very severe, and you could say, i do not want to see these things. and then you would record whatever program on your dvr. it would send down data that would identify the scenes that you do not want to say,nd when you played it off of your dvr, you would see aedited version of the show. it would allow you to protect children from things, of the television content and commercial content, that your children, you do not want your children are even you do not want to be exposed to. that was a great technology. what i found out was, the cable companies want nothing to do witht. it did not care. i said, well, this is because, number one, it was a premium service, you made money on it, obviously, so we wanted offered

to a premium service to the cable companies. the cable company said it is not really our mart. i said, it really is your market. what percentage of cable households have children under the age of 18 in the home? would you think? what percentage? 70? 32%. and they're not the big users of cable. they do not have the big cable bills. who has the big cable bills? single males. [laughter] so our cable companies, they wanted to the minimum. they want parental controls to say that they have a parental controls did they not care -- let me assure you, they do not care about protecting anyone from television content. they are in the business of marketing content. they just want to be able to say that they have tools for use and they do not spend a lot of time,

money, for energy providing them. so we wanted to do that and they said, now, if you wanted charge $10 for that, $10 they will not spend on hbo and we get a higher percentage of that money, sard. -- sorry. so the company went out of business. we went out for money to ramp up in the fall of 2008. as you may recall, that is when everything crashed. [laughter] timing is everything in politics as well as best as. we could not make it go. it was a great experience, a great experience for me, and they're still technology that someone can pick up the news, but it is a very important thing for us to -- for the private sector in my opinion to find a solution, but have a president -- i say this all t time with respect to the family and marriage, i say with respect to the whole basic values -- having a president who is going to go out and talk about -- i

respect michelle obama going out to talk about of the city. i respect that. it is a problem in america and she is going out and creating awareness. but marriage and the filth and our culture, i think, is much more detrimental to the health of children than being a few pounds overweight or even a lot over weaker if there is a lot more at risk and there may be a lot of reasons that underlie our health problems li obesity and other things because of the affect of not having a mom or dad and home, but the fact of not having as security, the fact of being exposed to filth and violence on television and the media, that may have an effect on a child's health, too. we ignore that because it is their friends in hollywood step produce it. all i will not have too many friends in hollywood so i am not to worry about them not being with me. you think they do not have friends in hollywood? i think so far now, my name has

been used, i think it is four time four times in network produced shows. my name was used in a fictional content. all negative. four times my name has been used, and recently a couple of months ago on "the good wife." the use my name and one of the episodes. again, it was a derogatory reference. i do not have any friends in hollywood. [laughter] so if that makes you -- one of the things you can learn about someone is to their enemies are. if you want to -- please go find that to my enemies are you will feel very comfortable voting for me. all right? [laughter] we've got a wrapup, is that what you're telling me? are we still on? we are live on c-span. c-span cameras over there. so you might want to not identify yourself if you are hiding from the law or something. [laughter]

>> is there still a silent majority that knows right from wrong or are we pass that? >> when i wrote my book, i talked about how the array of forces against truth are getting pretty heavy. against the valu of our country, against the traditional values, the day of-christian values our country. and the understanding of what freedom really means. freedom, i was talking about in my book, i use the term no-fault freedom to describe the freedom on the left, the freedom without responsibility,reedom not only the ft, but even a libertarian right, the treated to do what they want to do very that is how people view freedom in america today, the freom to do what you want to do. it is not our founders freedom. our founders freedom is the freedom to do what you ought to do.

that is the freedom that you after you never havthe freedom to do what you wanted it. if you had the freedom to do what you wanted to do, then this war would be chaos. we're all doing what we were wanted tdo. no, there are boundaries. as edmund burke said, the chains that will constrain you are change if you put on yourself from within or change the governme will put on you from the outside. so we will have the freedom to do what we should do, what we ought to do. i always talk about our founding document, that a coalition of independence. the heart of american exceptionalism are in these words that if you went to public school before 1970 in new them. we hold these truths to be self- evident, right? that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among them, life, liberty, an pursuit of happiness. think about that. right come to us from god. what guy? the god of abraham, isaac, and

jacob. ask any of the founders, that is what they would tell you. even the deist. the god of abraham, isaac, and jacob gave each and every person rights. an amazing thing f the founders to do because it came from a country that did not believe that. they believed in god-given rights but where did they go? to the king. the divine right of kings. to the emperor, they were the ones that got the rights and people subjected to the will of the cane. that is to use served. you are servants of the cane. right? not in america, now. government serve the people, not the people served the government. a complete turnaround. that is why it was such a revolution, it was a revolution in the history of the world feared that is why it makes so exceptional. america, god-given rights to each and every person, to do

what? what were their rights? life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. think about it. they could have said happiness, liberty, like. why did they put life, liberty, happiness? because this is order. you cannot have happiness unless you are alive? like is the foundation all right. is it protected in this country? no, it is not, not all like. freedom to do what? to pursue happiness. what is the definition of happiness? getting back tthe definition of freedom, when you're having is, what you think? pleasure, right, enjoyment, something the major feel-good, that is happening. that is the general definition. that is not what it meant in our founders time. go back and look at the dictionary definition the time of our founders, one of the definitions is to be the morally right thing.

why? because our founders understood, they understood that time, true happiness came from doing god's will. and if you are out of order with god's wl, what you ought to do, you will ultimately not be happy. right? these are biblical principles. and course we have -- we are a very difficult hundred back then. so what is america? america is god-given rights, to use those rights to serve him to do god's will. america is a moral enterprise. at its very foundation. that is why we have been so successful. and yet, we have people in america today -- not people, institutions in america that are fighting against that truth. it started with higher education, the left, the secular left, took over higher

education, the relativists who believe in notre, in no-fault freedom, and then of course hollywood, the government big labor, now big business, all the bigs. all interested in power, controlling. they're not interested in true for doing in and do it -- in doing what is right but in doing what is best forhem. as long as they have the power to make the decision, who stands to fight for the traditional values of this country? two institutions. the family and church. and what is the left trying to destroin this country? >> the famy in the church. >> that is right. that is why i am very upfront about it. because you need these two to get this. you don't have these to, you will not have this, or any kind

of understanding of what freedom really is. understand, we are in the most important election in your lifetime says the election of 1860, i would say. and you better and stand here in iraq how important your role is. -- in iowa how important your role is. you have an election in two ways, and a lot will happen. this race is anyone's -- i literally, i would not be surprised to finish first, and the person right now and first could finish sixth. this race is that close and it is that we would. so do not do anything -- it is that fluid. you go out and pick a person and work hard for them.

i'm going to ask if you could fill these cards out, i know a lot of folks are going to -- hear they are. a lot of folks coming around the county and saying that they need your help. they are lying. i need your help. [laughter] because we are running the campaign that is relied upon you. we're putting and add up a little bit and for someone out there running an ad on our behalf, we felt very grateful, but the bottom line is, we're running a grass-roots campaign for 99 counties, 350 thanh hall meetings, we need people who are going to go out that -- town hall meetings, we are going to need people to help us win this from the ground up. you want to send a message out of iowa? there is one candidate that will send a message for the candidate they have systematically and nord -- there's one canada that will send a message. decanted that they have systematically ignored. they do not talk about me because i am the most

conservative candidate that can win this election, whose proven track record is to win this election. this is the last person they want the republican party to nominate. so you showed them otherwise produce a, you know what? give him a chance. give him a chance. get him out there, put him up there at the top of the list, and give him a chance to show that he is the best candidate against barack obama. cynne all these other candidates rises and falls. iowa, people say, how are you going to get your boom? i am trusting the people of iowa. i'm spending all my timeere in raising very little money. i raise enough money to get around and see the people of iowa and i will trust you to go out there and give me the opportunity to show this country that earning people's votes is the best way to run a

campaign. go out and earn it. and have a press is that people will support and get excited about. i need you to fill out these cards, and if you can, how many caucus locations, i forget. 15. i need at least 15 people, one in each location, at least one, the sign up and help us out and speak for us at the ucus for you all had a chance to interact with me and i'm going to stick around and be happy to talk. if you can sign up and help us out, that would be a huge help to us. in addition to that, if you could recruit people to come, recruit another caucus capt. so that on caucus night you will not be alone to speak but have other people to help caucus folks, a lot of people sw up who are undecided. that is our key to have people out there. how many caucus captains to we have in crawford county courtroom and we know the number? we have three so far, ok? how many more does that make?

we need 12 more. we need a dozen more. that is not even all of them. but we will take all of you, don't get me wrong. the consigned and helpless, i would appreciate that very much. you can take signs out there, there are bumper stickers, all sorts of opportunities to be helping. two weeks. i am not asking for a huge commitment here. this is the most important election in our country's history. our founders pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to give us freedom. you know what they thought was their biggest concern? whether we would keep fighting to protect the freedom. to keep doing that job because it takes every generation to hold it. so i'm asking you if you believe this message and you believe i am the right person, great, i will love your vote but you need to do more than that if we're going to be successful. i do believe that we will believe successful. i feel very good about our chances in the momentum that we

have in the work that we've done that will pay off. it we would -- we would greatly appreciate your help during crawford and i will turn this over to she loved for final word -- sheila for a final word. >> [inaudibl i am sheila murphy and i'm truly honored to be on the staff my brother is also one staff, and we're working primarily in southwestern and south-central iowa. so we are here for you. we are asking you to go to the caucuses, as rick said, you can stand up and speak for us, go early in talking month, and bring your friends and relatives, and generally spread the message. we find that what -- once people know what rig stands for, we have no problem recruiting

people. we need your help in that and we will be around and give you whatever material, talking points, what ever you need to get that stuff done. we're there for you. we have these cards, a very easy way to communicate with neighbors and co-workers. all you have to do is put here and sign it. very quick and easy way. we have got a lot of these out here. grant handful and make good use of them. but a bumper sticker on your car. goethe the intersections and knock on doors, u would be at by -- amazed at how many people will let you display yards hundred and excellent tool to get there. in alice following -- someone sent me a twitter remark by one of the people who were coming -- covering another candidate going

into account. -- another category we have great support there. wherever we would go, there are santorum signs everywhere. this is santorum country. it does have a psychological effect on people to see bumper stickers and yard signs, particularly an election like this where you have six candidates, and six good people, that can see that kind of public support, it creates a sense of momentum, particularly here in the last few weeks. signs of very important to us. you get that lapel stickers, and if you can stick it on your overcoat, so that if you have it on, people can see it. you can put a bumper sticker and a car. it is only a couple of weeks and you can tear it off after that and put on a new one after the fall. so what ever you can do, every little bit helps. if you want a picture taken, put it up on your facebook page, and posted on twitter, whatever you

can do, we will help you, and provide you the information so that you can help us to the contact with your friends that is going to help us win. >> pick up one of these. it will give ideas any of you can do to help support the campaign. there is something for everyone in this campaign. i have to say it is very exciting. the momentum is growing exponentially and we are having a lot of fun. join with us, because we are going to save this country. let us know what we can do. >> i was just one to say the momentum is good. we picked up the endorsement a week ago of met shultz, secretary of state. we picked up a lot of state senators, as well as other elected officials in the state. we are going to have an

announcement tomorrow of another prominent pastor who is going to come and support us. a couple other endorsements are lined up of big people who are going to step forward, and conservative leaders in the state. we are picking it up. we are picking up the old- fashioned way, picking up because of grass-roots efforts. people say, "this is the candidate like, because i have seen him, i know him, and i like him." you can add to that momentum if you help us out. i will stop with that. >> i was quick to tell everyone that cindy -- >> that is right. >> cindy is a great friend of iowa. she is the northwest iowa regional coordinator for strong american now. she is going to be here. she has a wonderful video on caucusing. it is 17 minutes. she will be here to show it. for any of you who would like to

see it, it is quite excellent. she will answer questions about strong america now. it is a great organization. sign the pledge. >> i have. i will greet anybody who wants to. thank you. >> merry christmas. >> thank you. merry christmas to everybody here. merry christmas. >> thank you very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> hear what the candidates are saying at the newly designed c- span website for campaign 2012. >> if you cannot live with a nuclear iran, then you have to save what do you do. all options are on the table. >> if we took that oath of

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