big mistakes in their policy framework, then all bets are off. nothing guarantees china's success. >> my 30 seconds is to resonate with hans. this is to a washington audience now. hans said the world is getting bigger. so this is one message. the world is getting bigger with the united states is the economy

best positioned in many ways to capitalize on this. it's innovative capacity, its openness to foreign cultures, its establishment of the rules under which the current global economy operates. there are also very big risks in the world. the world is getting bigger. some of the farm risks are getting bigger, too. none is bigger in my view than that of europe at the moment. for the washington audience, the message is that there are more opportunities out there but politicians here need to be much more aware of the risks coming from overseas. it is remarkable to me how insular the policy debates and

out concentrated on the micro questions the policy debate has become in the city and how little awareness there is. this is from the global superpower of the risks that are out there and i believe the opportunities. i will leave it at that. i would like to thank on behalf of carnegie and on behalf of all of you, i think the panel did a terrific job, thank you very much. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> today on "washington journal" a look at the pipeline. harvard business school professor robert kaplan on the wall street relationship with

washington. "washington journal" begins live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> with the iowa caucuses and new hampshire primary next month, "the contenders" look back at 14 man who ran for president and lost but had an impact on politics. this week, eugene debs, charles evans hughes, and three-time governor of new york al smith followed by businessman and member of the liberal wing of the gop, wendell willkie. every night at 10:00 eastern on c-span. this weekend, three days of american history tv on c-span 3. saturday at 7:00 p.m., visit the congressional cemetery on american artifacts and at 8:00, american prosperity in the '50s and '60s. sunday evening at 7:30, meet the

white house chefs dating back to the carter administration and monday, highlight of cspan coverage of the japanese attack on pearl harbor. at 7:30 p.m., the history of native american military service. experts american history to be all weekend, every weekend on cspan 3. >> republican presidential candidate newt gingrich criticized president obama and harry reid for not agreeing to a compromise with house republicans over the payroll tax cut extension bill. he also criticized his fellow republican presidential candidates on their negative campaign ads against them. he made these remarks at a town hall meeting in new hampshire where he also received the endorsement of the state speaker of the house. this is about one hour. >> i just want to say thank you for being here in attendance.

you very much. i am andrew hemmingway, state director for newt here in new hampshire. i am honored to have you all in attendance. i am excited that speaker newt gingrich with us, i am excited to have speaker bill o'brien, laurie sanborn and always beautiful calista today. today is an exciting event. without going into details or spoiling the surprise, i want to give you a rundown very quickly of how the event is going to run. we are going to have our state chair, to the podium in a moment. then speaker bill o'brien give a few words. and then speaker newt gingrich will speak. and after he speaks for a minute -- unlike governor mitt romney, we will actually take questions at a town hall. [laughter] [applause] without further ado, our state share, one of the hardest working reps in that house and

we are honored to have heard leading the team in new hampshire. laurie? [applause] >> thank you, andrew. it is so great to see all of you. i know the weather is not perfect and we are in the week of christmas but this is such a special event. as andrew mentioned, i am lori sanborn, assistant deputy majority leader in the statehouse. i am a freshman legislator and in my time now i created a new hampshire house business corporation -- coalition and many are in the room today and we accomplished a lot in new hampshire and i am excited about that. i am very excited to be recently appointed state chair for the newt campaign and -- and i want to thank all of the employees and volunteers who have been working very hard. we have a lot of work to do but i am eager to work with you and roll up my sleeves. i am looking forward to that. as a legislator and a business

owner, i value results of all law. that is why i so enthusiastically support newt gingrich in his run for president and why i am so honored to be the one to introduce our next speaker, the speaker of the new hampshire house, bill o'brien. he is a man who knows how to get results. in our time in office together, bill has done a great number of things. first and foremost, after we inherited and $800 million deficit in our state, we quickly balance the budget and reduced state spending by 17 percent. [applause] that is truly a historic achievement, and we could not have done it without a bill. in addition to that, we have done a number of government reforms, including reforming our state pension system. we have passed over 40 bills

that rollback excessive regulations on our business community. and we have lowered the unemployment rate in new hampshire. so, this is under the auspices of bill o'brien. we can't thank him enough. back in the 1970's i saw a quote from ronald reagan -- saying now is not the time for pastel colors but time for bald, primary colors. we have a bold leader in speaker o'brien. please join me in welcoming him on the stage. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. good afternoon. there are many standards to judge a presidential candidate. one of the best is past performance. by that measure, only one candidate this year has achieved the meaningful change in washington that we need, and

that candidate is newt gingrich. while president obama promised both hope and change, the results have been a disastrous failure that accomplished only one objective -- a massive growth in government. growth of finance at the expense of liberty and our children's and our grandchildren's future. as someone who believes in limited government, who believes in new hampshire's motto of live free or died, and believes my three children and my three grandchildren believe and america as a secure and financially sound as it was when i became an adult, i know we need -- we cannot continue down barack obama's disastrous path that will lead to bankrupting of our freedom and future generations. that is why it is not good enough just to defeat barack obama. we need to replace him with a president who has a clear sense

with -- of where the country needs to go. we need to replace it with a president who ensures the era of american greatness is over. we cannot afford candidates who put electoral convenience or extreme ideologies and head of bringing transformative change that will restore america's place in the world while making our federal government smaller, more efficient, and less of an impediment to our economy and liberty. after spending a considerable amount of time reviewing the candidates for president and coming to like and admire many of them -- perhaps most of them -- one person rose to the top as the person certain to bring positive, transformative change to washington. and that person is speaker newt gingrich. newt gingrich is the person who most certainly will get america back to the ideals that made

our country great. he will return our country to being the beacon of freedom and opportunity to the world that it has been for decades before the current presidency. newt gingrich is the one person who will most certainly bring fiscal discipline back to washington. his past performance, his track record, is exactly what we need now to solve today's problems in washington. look at that track record. while revisionist historians would like to credit the tremendous success of the 1990's to bill clinton, all bill clinton had to show before newt gingrich's in the house was a failed stimulus plan, a failed attempt at national health care, a major tax increase, a bill to restrict second amendment rights, and, of course, midnight basketball. when newt took over, congress

pushed the tax cut of 1997 which included a capital gains cut which created millions of jobs. it was not bill clinton who displayed the political courage to hold the line on federal spending that led to the first balanced budget in four decades and that led to four balanced budget so, it was the house led by newt gingrich. it was not bill clinton who crafted the welfare reform that lifted millions out of poverty. instead, clinton twice vetoed welfare reform and it was only the dogged determination of newt gingrich's house of representatives that led to bill clinton finally agreeing to sign a bill for welfare reform that made welfare a bridge to work and not a dead end of dependency. these huge accomplishments would not have taken place without newt gingrich's vision and leadership.

we desperately need that vision and leadership in the oval office today. these changes will be hard. i know firsthand because it is what we are trying to do in new hampshire. and the only way to get there is with someone who has a clear goal of where our nation needs to go, and ability to articulate these complex ideas assembly and understandably, and an uncompromising level of determination to see things through. newt gingrich is not only that person. he has shown us that time and again he is that person. he is the right man at the right time for the presidency. i would wholeheartedly endorse his efforts, and i am committed to helping him deliver the leadership america so desperately needs today. mr. gingrich? [applause]

>> well, thank you, speaker o'brien. i was sitting up here thinking, as someone who did help balance the budget for four consecutive years, and as somebody who does the pitted twice in the only actual domestic discretionary spending cuts that we had since world war ii -- and ronald reagan, 1981, was not a reduction in rate of growth -- 1995 speaker, we went down. when i think of what the speaker has achieved and spending cuts year -- could you imagine what washington would be like if they have the courage to match new hampshire in that kind of fiscal discipline? it would have been remarkable. i thank you for your leadership and for proving that the tea party movement can bring decisive commitment to real change and, at a practical level, can turn into something that creates jobs, attract new business, attracts new opportunities. it is a remarkable thing.

your endorsement is particularly meaningful. we may want him to go around the country to do a road show saying obama budget, new hampshire budget, obama budget, new hampshire budget -- it is a pretty good story. [applause] in addition, the first time i talked to laurie, i was really excited and one of her to be part of the campaign because her commitment to having businesses have effective representation in the legislature is a key. i have twice participated in creating a lot of jobs -- as a very junior congressman i worked with jack kemp and number of people and we developed what was called supply-side economics. larry kudlow part of that. in the reagan administration would have a simple panted four parts -- cut taxes, cut regulations, focus on american energy, and favor the people who actually create jobs.

tell them it is a good thing to go out and create a job. in the process, reagan created millions of new jobs, unemployment came down from about 10.8% down to 5.6% in his presidency. in one month, august of 1983, we created 1,300,000 new jobs. when i became speaker, i basically picked up the reagan playbook. as speaker o'brien said, the first wave of the clinton administration was raising taxes, raising spending, crippling the economy and when i came in, frankly, the dow jones had not moved, things have not gotten any better, and we went back to the reagan playbook -- lower taxes, less regulation, more american energy, and a crowd of people who go to work every day and create jobs. the result was in the four years i was speaker, there were 11 million new jobs created. the reason i like what laurie has done is she is bringing in

people who actually created jobs. this is the opposite of the obama model. obama raises taxes, increases regulations, is anti-american energy and engages in class warfare against people who create jobs. then we wonder why the economy is a mess. by the way, the attack on american energy by the obama administration showed up this year in the highest average price of gasoline in american history. in 2011, americans pay more for gasoline than any time in american history. if you are an editorial writer for "the new york times" and you ride the subway getting to work you probably did not notice this. but if you live in rural america, small town america, medium-size america, you probably noticed immediately. if you drive a car, you probably noticed it. if you would like to visit your children or grandchildren -- over christmas, people would drive to visit their relatives are going to notice this.

when gasoline prices and diesel prices and heating oil prices, they go through the economy and cause pain along the way. i like the idea that we are going to work with businesses with fiscal conservatism to get things done. calista the mind of the we also want to come here to say something that is not political -- reminded me we also want to come here and say something that is not political, which is merry christmas. [laughter] [applause] so, i would just say one or two things about the race. i have to confess, of the iowa race has gotten to be a real mess. i think my good friends have bought about $7 million of negative advertising and we just cheerfully go forward and tell the truth and it is interesting to watch out the audiences react. the american people are not stupid. people know if there is a negative ad zumbar they probably bought it and -- and if you see it several times in an

hour, they probably raised too much money. i want to say to you what i have been saying out there -- i will be here on a positive campaign. we are in trouble as a country. we need to focus on how to get out of trouble, we need to talk about the solutions that will get us out to trouble. if you go to newt.org, a proposed 21st century contract with america. we will grow and develop it and by december 27, the anniversary of the contract, we will post the legislative part and by october 1 we will post a series of executive orders that will indicate exactly what i will do as the first day of president and first will eliminate all of the white house czars as of that moment. [applause] so, i am very prepared to campaign. i will also tell you, because i think the issues are so huge -- if the choice is barack obama

and newt gingrich. on the one hand you have a saul olinsky radical , he used to teach his model in chicago. community leaders -- that was political radicalism. and on -- on the other hand of someone who believes passionately in the declaration of independence and that our rights come from our creator, and alienable, and sovereignty resides in you, that you are a citizen and not a subject and we the people the find the government. so, the gap philosophically is enormous. on one side you have the finest food stamp president in american history. no one has done more to put more people on food stamps than barack obama. i would like to be the finest paycheck president in american history. [applause] and in terms of winning the

general election, let me point out that at this point in 1979, ronald reagan was 30 points behind jimmy carter. the leading media did everything they could to make reagan unacceptable. a lot of stuff they said about reagan they have pulled back up and say about me. and they are right. look, if you want a cozy washington business-as-usual establishment, you don't want to me. it that establishment -- that establishment is both republican and democrat. you can tell who the establishes -- establishment is -- the ones who are frightened. but as the company got to know reagan the company will ask -- country ask a simple question that we will s. it is four years of barack obama good enough -- do you really want eight years? it is that simple question. four more years. he started with "yes, we can." new campaign slogan will be "let me explain why we couldn't." [laughter] so, there is a gap.

the last point i want to make to you about that -- is if you help me -- and i think we have a real chance in new hampshire to surprise people because i think the philosophical differences are not just between me and obama but they are between me and some of the other candidates. and if you will help me, when i become your nominee, i will challenge president obama to seven, three-hour debate in the lincoln-douglas tradition with a timekeeper but no moderator. and i will can see up front that he can have a teleprompter. [laughter] [applause] let's be fair. if you had to defend obamacare, wouldn't you want a teleprompter? now, people think he wanted the

baby and i will give you three reasons i believe he is going to debate. the first is precedence -- he announced an president in 2007 in springfield, illinois, quoting abraham lincoln. the second is ego. this is a columbia university harvard law school editor of the "harvard law review," the best orator of the democratic party. how does he look in the mirror and say he is afraid to debate someone who taught at west georgia college? the third is practical -- as many of you know, i studied american history, and when i studied it, i learned that abraham lincoln, when he announced -- he had only been in congress for one term, he had been a state legislator. he announced against the best known u.s. senator and a man people assumed would be the next president. he said there are 105 days left -- let's debate every day. stephen douglass said, i don't

think so. so, lincoln began to follow douglas. and in about three weeks douglas figured out that lincoln was getting the press coverage for his rebuttals to douglas's speeches. after about three weeks, but was sri lankan and said it, all right, i will agree to debate you. but i am not going to go back to the two -- first two districts you already chased me in, i will do the seven. the debates or so central, i think they are the most and for exploration of constitutional freedoms as the federalist papers. they were carried widely in the newspapers. each of the seven debates got its own coverage. linkedin the next year had it reprinted as a book and it was a major factor to his rise as the president's candidates. if you make me the nominee, in tampa, when i get the acceptance speech, if the president has not yet agreed to have a series of seven debates,

i will announce that night in my acceptance speech that whitehouse at that moment is my scheduler -- wherever he goes, i will show up four hours later and i will answer his speech every single time. and in the age of talk radio and 24-hour television news, my hunch is it will take about two weeks for the white house to decide that is a losing proposition and to the side having us on the same stage debates in america prosecutor, talking about who we are the loss topically and who we are at a practical achievement level is a less painful than having a show of at every single town shortly after the president. so, with your help, we will set up one of the most exciting and most important elections in american history, maybe the most decisive sense 1860, in defining america, and with your help i am convinced people will vote for paychecks over food

stamps, they will vote for the american declaration of independence over radical socialism, they will vote for strength in foreign policy over weakness, and they will vote for somebody who wants to work with the american people -- not somebody who wants to dictate to the american people. i think that will make this a truly historic election. and it is all made possible by the folks up here who have been very helpful and for andrew hemingway doing a terrific job as our leader in the state, and i am very much looking forward to questions. [applause] >> all right, we will start here pretty yes, ma'am. >> [inaudible] i wanted to talk about welfare -- [inaudible]

then i believe in preventive care and early testing for a variety of conditions. colonoscopy, one of the most successful single intervention to save lives because: cancer called early is very easy to deal with and when it is caught late, it is fatal. there are things we should do, no question. i told people all along, if you write a 2700 page bill, there is a pretty good chance you get 300 pages right. let's stipulate. there are 300 good pages in obamacare. but i don't trust the washington

standard. what i would do is repeal the bill and take the good pages and pass them, but i would not like to rewrite 80% or 9% because i'd been not trust the washington staff at 2:00 in the morning. there are pieces -- i happen to favor help information technology, which is in the bill, which i think will save lots of lives and billions of dollars. but i think if there are good ideas in the bill, they can be passed as freestanding small bills because they are peak -- things people want. i would try to fast track and to get them passed quickly and figure but the bridging mechanism is so you do not have a break up in services. but i would first start -- this is in my 21st century contract -- i would ask the new congress that comes in january 3 to repeal obamacare, dodd-frank, and sarbanes are obsolete before my inauguration and hold the bills until it gets inaugurated so obama cannot veto them and then i would sign them

probably on the 21st or the 22nd of january and then i would ask congress to go to work immediately on putting back in place those pieces that are really good that most americans agree with. >> [inaudible] >> the 10th of january to help -- >> [inaudible] what the democratic media will do to you.

>> a good question. i studied under ronald reagan. i first met him in 1974. reagan faced the same problem. and he found that consistency really worked. that if you take key positions -- take food stamps versus paychecks. the gap here is so wide, it is very hard even for the elite media to distort it. so, -- american energy versus by brazilian entity. the president goes to brazil and says i want to be your best customer. the president is not assigned to be a far purchasing agent. he should sell american products. that is a gap that is so big between purchasing agent of brazilian oil and selling u.s. manufacturing goods -- it is pretty hard for them to distort it. plus, my experience is the american people have got a lot smarter. we have hundreds of sources of information. we have lots of ways of having conversations. and people get used to reading

things. let me give you one example. when i first became speaker, there was an enormous shock to the establishment. no republican had one in 40 years. they knew it could not be good. you could see that shocked on election night in their eyes. point before i was even sworn in, time magazine has me on the cover as scrooge. this is christmas season, right? holding tiny tim's broken crutch. it was not that i stole his correct, i broke it. the title of the cover was -- how mean well newt gingrich's america be to the poor? the following week, "newsweek" won its catch up and i had a doctor suess figure entitled the grinch that stole christmas. this was the elite media's idea of fairness. this is what happens with average americans -- they say he

is for welfare reform. 92% issue. it did not hurt us at all. we were the first reelected majority since 1928 despite every effort to stop us. so, i think what i've got to do is i've got to have a compelling message. i have to use youtube and facebook and twitter and all of the different devices that allow us to communicate around the elite media. we have to have talk radio. it appears much easier because we have something as saw the late conservative as "the manchester union leader," it sort of undoes half of the "the new york times" damage. "the des moines register" endorsed the right liberal and the "manchester union leader" endorsed the person who was conservative. how many people here are

refugees from massachusetts? raise your hand. [laughter] ok. we will have a conversation. i would -- was thinking of having a massachusetts rally in new hampshire and i am now convinced having a -- "please, don't turn america into massachusetts." [applause] i do not have andrew's permission but maybe when i fly in from iowa we could have a massachusetts reminder rally so everyone could be reminded of the real choice between two very different approaches to governing. i now realize, we could get a lot of folks without having to get anyone to drive up from massachusetts. but, go ahead. >> [inaudible]

the payroll tax cut. >> in an ideal world, this is not how you would solve thing. but i agree with john boehner -- if you are going to extend the cut, extended for a year. any of you who are in business and have to deal with payrolls, know that the idea you will get a two month extension and then you did not know what will happen next, because they could have another crisis and late february -- this is about as stupid a way to run a country and this is embarrassing. this is worthy of the italian parliament. [laughter] and to have the senate leave. i am very sympathetic to speaker boehner. i did not realize it at the time -- i was very fortunate to work with bill clinton. i would not have said it to you at the time did he had been governor for 12 years, the governor of a conservative state. obama never actually served in

the illinois senate because he was busy running for the u.s. senate and did not actually serve in the u.s. senate because it is busy running for president and now he has not really served as president because he has been busy running for reelection, so he has no government experience. [applause] so, -- and harry reid. i was fortunate because i had a republican senate. harry reid is a totally partisan democrat who arrogantly -- they pass a bill and leave the city. by what right does the senate decide they are the designers of america's future, and they leave? i think every center of the be told to go back to washington and get the job done, pass a year-long bill, get stability, and let's move to something new. but we look embarrassingly incompetent as a country and i can tell you of the three key players, boehner, harry reid, and obama, i think boehner has had the most coverage and has been the most willing to do the

right thing and the other two have been not only zero help but destructive, while candidly manipulating the press to make boehner look bad. it is dominant religion. it barack obama believes he could have another 365 days of manipulation he completely underestimated the ability of the american people to see through fraud and understand the corzine macro -- model of free enterprise does not work and the obama model does not work, either. the braves. -- be brave. >> how would you govern differently, if at all, from george w. bush? then i would be very different from president bush. i did not say it as a negative of president bush but i came out of the reagan wing of the party. there are two components of the reagan wing -- one is conservatism and the other is an absolute identity but the

american people. we did a movie with reagan called "front of the with the destiny." if you listen to his speeches, they are about us -- "rendezvous with destiny." i never ask you to be for me, because of the are for me you will go home and say i sure hope he fixes it. i can't. i ask you to be with me, to stand next to me for eight years. if you watch reagan's farewell address, it is all about us, what we did. i think it is very important. i will give you one example. >> do you think bush did not do that? >> there was a bush plan for social security. you cannot have a bush plan for social security immediately

after winning a negative campaign in which all you prove there were more anti-kerry boater's then anti-bush voters because anti-bush voters were against them from day one. titling it the bush plan -- if they have young girl members of congress go out and create -- on 85 campuses we have young people now leading the effort for a younger american right to choose a personal socialists' security savings account. but it is not newt gingrich, it is younger americans. we are basing it in galveston, texas, with 30 years' experience and saying to grandparents who will not be affected all -- do you mind if your grandchildren are allowed to have control of your savings so no politician can rip them off? do you mind if your grandchildren are allowed to have two or three times as much retirement income than they will get from the government. did you mind if your grandchildren controlled the year they decide to retire based on what they are doing

rather than politicians. do you mind if the american people increase the size of the american economy by saving all this money. chile today, the size of their social security savings system is 72% of the economy. it is so big they are allowing chileans to invest outside the country. the estimate from harvard when it was first developed is over a generation, you reduce income inequality in america by 50% -- i am waiting for "the new york times" to confirm this. because every single worker and of owning stocks and bonds, every single worker a capitalist, every single person has a real estate which you do not have under social security. he literally -- you literally reduce inequality by raising people up and not spending your time to rural people down, like obama. it is estimated you would

increase the size of the national economy dramatically. you get a bigger economy with bigger paychecks which allows it to get more savings so you have a better retirement with more jobs. but the difference is, this will only pass if in hundreds of college campuses the students decide they want it. the people have to be for it. reagan was a genius at convincing the people. he used to say, my job is to show the lights to the american people so they will turn up the heat on congress. so, you have a strong, effective american leader -- has to be one with the people. then you can change washington. and i spent a lot of my time worrying about how do "we the people" defeat "they the establishment." i do not want to learn how to manage the establishment but to change it. that is the fundamental difference. thank you very, very much. [applause]

thank you for speaking the truth about the pilot -- palestinians. >> what do we have to do to get to the point where someone says, i am offended by that, and -- [inaudible] >> how are you? >> it was really good. >> it is her sixth project.

-- civics project. >> could you sign my book? >> what is your name? >> i am joy. >> thank you for coming today. >> do you want to sign it, too? >> thank you so much. >> how are you? >> good. >> good. i hope you are enjoying it? >> i am. >> thank you. what is your name? >> tony. >> do you have a stated policy on the federal reserve? >> it should be at newt.org. i would audit it, they have to publish their decision documents from 2008-2010 and i will repeal the bill which told we confused them. i would have them go back to a solid money policy of no inflation. and i would ask for bernanke to resign and if he refused i would

ask congress to terminate his term. how are you? >> i moved down there because i see you on c-span. i said, this guy is brilliant. i have to get out of here. where am i going to go? i used to go to atlanta for racing but then i went to marietta. >> i had to come back and inew hampshire. the air is much cleaner here. >> there you go. how are you? >> do you still believe in jack kemp's big tent?

>> absolutely. >> what happens when you appoint rhinos to committee chairmen? >> that's a different question. i like every american who favors paychecks over food stamps to be with us. i am happy to bring people together to big -- to build the biggest possible majority. >> they don't vote for you when they get in. >> i had a pretty good track record a lot of stuff when i was speaker. >> ok. [no audio] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> i asked ander to come up so if there is any really hard questions --

>> mr. speaker, speaker o'brien has made a right to work law a major part of his agenda. the national right to work committee on its web site says the new speaker, you kept measures to repeal several [unintelligible] how can he trusts you to be an ally on that agenda? >> in terms of passing it here, i was totally in favor and i work with them on it. as president, i am prepared to end federalism. >> what changed your mind? >> it's a different job. as speaker of the house, you have to represent the entire conference and i did. a major part of our concern for the entire conference was that we could maintain in the jury was no republican had done since 1928. i frankly avoid issues that would cause us to put nancy pelosi back in charge.

having a house in which nancy pelosi is not in charge is a good thing. >> you talk about electability in terms of going again obama. and you're debate strength. is there anything else to do have better than mid romney? >> the primary reason that reagan said dramatically outperformed what the establishment expected is that he could passionately communicate a belief in america at a level that people really decided they wanted to commit to. the campaign that i would run would be a much more aggressive campaign, drawing sharp distinctions, and allowing people to decide which future you want. i think that is a big difference. take the difference and tax policies -- i am prepared to campaign to creating jobs be my

number one position. i want a tax policy that has zero capital gains tax. governor romney propose a capital gains tax which has a lower cap and obama. -- ben obama. he said if you want to take the issue off the table, i don't want to take the issue of the table. if he won income redistribution, 9% unemployment, and food stamps, you have a candidate in barack obama. if you want to focus and wealth creation and many more jobs and a feature with a chess, you have a candidate, newt gingrich. the gap is this wide. i would run a campaign as dramatic a more dynamic about reaching out to people in making arguments and i would reach out to more people. i would reject to latinos and asian-americans and african- americans and i would welcome the naacp inviting me to their convention. i would welcome an opportunity to go anywhere in america if to argue for paychecks over food stamps and i think that is a

different stuff and a different approach. >> the governor romney health care reform in 2006 s after he switched his position on abortion actually funded abortion. with those provisions be a deal breaker for you on any kind of health care bill? >> i did not know the second thing. planned parenthood -- my statute-- he signed or inherited? >> he signed. we have to check this. that is strange. my position is very straightforward. i have always voted for the various hyde jimenez which blocked federal funding for

abortions. i have said publicly that the executive order i will sign on the first day would reinstate reagan's mexico city policy which blocks any american payment for abortions overseas and i would move to de-fund planned parenthood and move it into adoption services so young women have a choice of life rather than death and i think planned parenthood is the biggest advocates for abortion in america and they should not get any funding. >> what you think about the attacks so far? don't you need to fight fire with fire? plateauedy you have and you're going down the other way. >> the three national surveys show me tied with romney. it virginia survey shows me beating and decisively. and i was survey shows run: first place and in second place and run a distant third.

i dunno. you can have seven-$9 million of false astir net to and not have some impact. i expected i would that we will have to fight our way back. the last two days in iowa have been very positive. we did six or seven events yesterday with very large crowds. i emphasized a couple of things -- i will remain positive. i will talk about what i would like to do. i will talk about what my principles are. i will talk about how we solve the country's problems. i one opponent, barack obama. i think most of the negative advertising is shamefully dishonest. "the washington post" fact checker gave the mid run the thefour pinocchio's. four is a good start.

i challenge met romney to this on his packs. his super pact is a staff raising money from his friends. they have $1,400,000 set up for next week by negative ads in iowa. i challenge governor romney to stand up, be a good citizen, and ask him to run positive ad. if he wants to run positive ads, i don't think he can say in a positive things to win. he may say does not have any influence over his millionaire friends, he is just not honest. how you say you can lead america if you cannot be candid with the american people? his ads are dishonest and negative and destructive and the only person they are helping is barack obama. >> you talked about your support

for speaker john boehner. does that mean you support house republicans sticking with the one-year plan even if it means it expires and they don't get a tax cut? -- whywouldn't you say isn't the president and the senate allowing this to expire? everybody buys the liberal line. the president jumps up and says this is a crisis. it is a crisis because the senate is gone. the democrats are in charge of the senate but it is a republican crisis. i have a chance to tell the truth to the american people. this is a barack obama-harry reid deliberately deceptive strategy for political gain. it is disheartening to see them turn us into a third world country with politics that are on worthy of united states. they just have to bring the senate back.

why is that a big deal for them to do their job? if i were john boehner, i would be firm in saying let's pass a one-year extension. where is the president? where is the present -- where is the senate? why is it their fault? this idea that it is always the house republicans' fault is fundamentally flawed >> this morning, mitt romney told nbc that they heat in the kitchen is just a medium. he said you should be able to stand the negative ads. >> he is kidding of course. look, i'll tell you what -- if he wants to test the heat, i will meet him anywhere in iowa next week one-on-one, 90 minutes, no moderator, just a timekeeper.

i will be glad to debate him anywhere. he can defend his ads and we will bring "the washington post" to say that his as our allies and he can defend it. i will go in the kitchen. does governor romney want to play in the kitchen? i don't think so. he wants to hide and pretend it is not his fault that he is flooding the people i with falsehoods. that is his money and his staff and his responsibility. i can take the heat plenty well. 121,000 as ran against in 1995 and 1996. i went through two government shutdowns. i stuck to my word. i oppose republican tax increases in 1992 and 1990. i will be just fine from the heat from barack obama because it will be fair exchange for it he will get a fair amount of heat in the process. >> you will -- you said we were

not any stronger, can you elaborate on that? >> look at the way iraq is deteriorating. i don't think we understand how big a problem the challenge of iraq is and i'm not sure we understand how long it will attack and that is not something we're necessarily going to just west. with. i am very worried about iraq. the shia president may be about to arrest the sunni vice president. this could devolve into an unstable country reporte. in december of 2003, i was saying we went off a cliff went

bremer said he was there to change iraq. i said to go in very fast, take out saddam and hire the iraqi regular army and get out because we don't have the capacity to govern a country like iraq and just then years and tragically lost thousands of lives without being able to fundamentally change the country back up last question -- >> you have board directors you -- you have been the board of director on the various defense companies. getsm not think anybody pure unvarnished information. i would like to make sure i get a wide range of advice from a wide range of people and i rely on each of them to tell me what the other one is saying wrong. i think you get a much better

view of the world. merry christmas to all of you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> we have a rally this evening at the marriott and people are bringing in more positions. we have a function tomorrow morning where people will bring in more petitions. >> does this show a lack of organization? >> a man who runs six years and has millions of people has a different style than someone who

rouses people. we're doing just fine. the reason we didn't do missouri was not that we did not know about it. missouri is done by a caucus of the was a conscious decision. we will be on the ballot in virginia. >> getting your comments about massachusetts, what is your opinion about massachusetts? >> i love massachusetts. i like visiting boston. >> about living there? >> sometimes i speak at the kennedy school and harvard. it is a very expensive stay with a liberal political culture. >> you will fly back an answer when the, you would not send swords? >> they will not come at me with knives and swords. we will have an honest conversation about facts.

out of that process, and, for the people of new hampshire will render a good judgment. >> [inaudible] >> by petition. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> over on c-span2 this morning, and discussion about youth, job training and education from the national black caucus of state legislators. here on c-span, "washington journal" is next, live with your phone calls. tonight from our special series "the contenders,", a look at 5 time candidate eugene debs. time candidate eugene debs.