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>> thank you. >> how are we doing, buddy? >> appreciate you coming. here.ou're >> thank you. >> glad you came out. >> hello there. how are you?
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there you go. >> thanks. >> that looks like a good one. >> thanks for coming. >> thank you for being here. >> paul, it is nice to meet you. >> thank you. nice to meet you. >> thank you for giving us hope. >> good. that is what we want. then we want to turn things around. good to see you. appreciate you coming out. hello. good to be here. ok. very good. >> good luck.
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>> hello. appreciate you coming out. hello there. >> you are my hero. >> thank you. thank you for coming out. hello. good to see you. >> how are you? >> another one? >> why not? >> glad you came out. ok. very good.
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>> how are you? >> are you ready? you can give your jacket to that guy there. >> hello. how are you? >> i don't think we got your picture. did we get it? ok. >> only one time. >> nice to meet you. very good. thank you. >> good luck.
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>> that will be a real challenge. winning will require -- >>thank you. >> nice to meet you. thank you. >> glad you came back. >> you're a great man. >> thank you. glad you're here. good to see you. >> you're my hero.
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>> very good. thank you. how are you? >> thank you for doing the right thing. >> nice to meet you. doing well? thank you. thanks for coming out. >> thank you very much. >> good luck. >> before the primary, i was the first guy that told your son to run for the senate. your daughter was saying -- [unintelligible]
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>> we've got one more picture left. >> i wanted to give you one of these. >> this is for me? very good. take care. >> good job. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012]
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>> we will take a quick -- a few minutes after this event with dr. paul to take some of your phone calls and also talk to a few people who are still here in the room. your calls are coming in and we will get to them in just a few minutes. let me introduce you to a father and daughter team who were here. >> we live in massachusetts. >> why did you come here tonight? >> we wanted to listen to ron paul speak and meet the man. >> have you been following him for a while or did you check it out? "i voted for him in 2007. >> would you like about him? "i think he is honest and i appreciate that. >> what about yourself? are you interested in politics? >> not really, my family likes don paul so i wasn't here >>
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you like him or are you here because our family is interested. >> at first i didn't know who he was but then my dad started talking about him and i realized he really talks the truth and respect people. >> can i ask how old you are? >> i am 11. >> are you learning about the presidential election in school? >> not really, no. >> if you do you will be ready. how long did drive was set for you? >> about an hour and a half. >> have you heard him before? >> no, not in person. it is nice to see the guy and shake his hand. i appreciate what he is doing >> we will take your telephone calls as well. let's begin with a call from bonnie. go ahead. >> i am watching ron paul. it is interesting some historical figures have a lot in common with them in these primaries. john f. kennedy and what he had
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to say about the federal reserve, abraham lincoln said there was a crisis that had served him because corporations had enthralled themselves. kennedy was afraid. lincoln was afraid. bobby kennedy was afraid and now ron paul as afraid of the federal reserve. i wonder what will happen to him. the truck that disappeared in iowa and the newscasters acknowledging the truck is appeared at all of a sudden rick santorum comes out of nowhere into the lead and ron paul dissipates. i am concerned for his welfare talking about the federal reserve. >> clara is up next in austin, texas. >> hello?
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>> you are on the air. >> i do not vote for the party. i vote for the person. the only one that can really change the election and restore a america is ron paul. we do something because he really believes in it. he believes in liberty and peace. >> next up is eve. do you have a candidate yet? >> i am a democrat. i normally do not watch television but i was fortunate enough to be someplace where i happened to catch this and wrote down the number to call. i just think that dr. paul is a -- the one voice of sanity. i do wish him the very best.
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thank you. >> thank you for calling. let me introduce you to two of the people in the crowd tonight. what is your name? >> jen hall. >> are you a student? >> i am. i am excited to hear him speak. the first time we were out this year. >> have you heard him anywhere else? >> i sure have. he has been here a few times before and i try to make it out every time. it is always awesome to see this from packed with students and adults. it was fantastic to see some much standing room after pierre >> explain to people watching what it is about him that appeals to you as a young person. >> i really love ron paul foreign-policy and his total anti war mindset. it is something that is important to me because i do not understand why we are sending children off to die for no reason.
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on the same token he is one of the very few gop's that are talking about ending the war on drugs. it is important to me -- he is one of the few candidates talking about it. >> how much interest are you seeing on campus about the primary? >> we are seeing a fair amount. we are on the winter break. just before when we were still around everybody was interested in seeing one candidate coming out. we were trying to keep them updated. i know the college republicans had at least three or four of them come out in december. that was awesome. they had a great showing. >> the brief continues through tuesday, so what does that mean for getting out the vote? >> there are a lot of students coming back up to vote or are doing and absentee. something we have been pushing as an organization. i know there are others trying to encourage students. this area is interesting because there is a big push between the
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town and the students and who has voting power. it has been cool to talk to students and encourage them to get out the vote this year. >> where is home for you? >> i live and dover, new hampshire which is just not erode. >> where did you grow up? >> i went to high school in new york and maim but i've bounced around new hampshire all my life. >> are you a student? >> no, i came with an organization called students for sensible drug policy. we were invited to attend a college convention in concord. i have never been in new hampshire before but i am very active in politics and i jumped at the opportunity to come to the primary and immersed myself into the entire primary process. i am an advocate of ron paul. >> were is tom? >> i was born and raised in arlington, virginia.
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politics was not always a huge part of my life. as i got older and went to college and got involved, i thought it is my duty as someone who has grown up in the spectrum of politics to come up here and see what the candidates have to say and do my hometown proud in terms of putting my vote up there in supporting a canada i feel is the best. >> is the sensible drug policy the predominant issue with ron paul for you? >> he is probably my front runner because he is an advocate of ending the war on drugs which i think is costly and an unwinnable war. i do not think you can wage a war on your own citizens. i think there are many racial and social class issues involved with it. it is not an issue we are going to arrest our way out of. we will not keep building prisons and keep incarcerating people and we will not keep arresting nonviolent offenders who are not hurting anyone but
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themselves, arguably. ron paul's message is similar to that. he does not want to get involved in other people's affairs which would include mexico. another reason i am interested in ron paul is because i have aspirations for law school. he said every person accused of a crime is entitled to a trial. i feel in this country without due process we have nothing. we are nothing but a totalitarian state without due process. we need to process whether we know the person is without a do -- without a doubt guilty or whether there is reasonable doubt. i want to be an attorney who supports that message. i want to give everybody a fair trial. he came out on record in mass -- mentioning that. i got a chance to speak with some of the issues on the legal system i am endorsing him at this point. >> thank you for talking to us. we will do one more.
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here is a walking ron paul poster. >> i am steve chase and i am proud of state. i have been following ron paul. >> out of state where? >> all the way from north dakota. >> he drove here just for the primary? >> i drove here for support because it is a simple answer to why i am supporting him for president. he is the candidate most likely to give us the possibility of having this conversation again four years from now. >> what do you mean by that? >> the direction we are going is so extreme i think we might lose the freedoms that we have and the liberty we have to such an extent that the elections may not even be the way they are now. i also believe that our situation in the foreign policy area is such that without a wise elder such as ron paul to be able to step back and have a conversation rather than a war
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on -- a war of words ending up in war could lead up to a nuclear situation. i call him the most said candidates for me and my family. i have children and i want them to grow up and have been opportunity. >> were you in iowa? >> i was here a >> how long have you been away from home? >> my home for the day is here. i am a new convert. it takes an epiphany to understand the combination of liberty and economic and foreign policy. they are all tied together. if we continue to spend all the money behalf on foreign wars and not even talking about it, it is close to one trillion dollars a year on military expenditures. we will raise our debt up to the point that we will not be able to do anything else. we will be bankrupt. when that happens, i traveled
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last year to some other countries like greece and i saw what was going on in the streets. we are not immune to that. we cannot and will not be able to continue borrowing money from china to blow up bombs and other parts of the world. it is not possible. they are pulling the strings in on us. >> how would you be spending the day until the primary? >> today i have to admit was probably far more than anything else. i have only heard him live once before. i am going to be making telephone calls as much as i can to undecided voters and listening to their reasons and trying to answer any questions they have about dr. ron paul. that way we can win this election on tuesday. if we have a nominee like any of the others. for one thing, we will lose the general election and also the country will lose millions and millions of new supporters to our constitution that dr. ron paul has brought in because they
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will not have the candidates in the election. >> thank you for talking to us. we will take a couple of more telephone calls. let's hear from jason. [inaudible] -- [no audio] >> next is a call from robert. robert is a republican. >> i was pretty and decided for which we wanted to vote until i listened to ron paul tonight and his foreign policy is
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outstanding from my viewpoint. i have lost friends and family in the war over there. not only that but he also talks about how our liberties are being diminished and it is becoming a police country where we are building prisons and trying to hurt people because they have separate views from anybody else's. i appreciate somebody stepping up to the plate and saying our values of a citizen are important. they cannot be run by the government. we have to be looked out for. he sounds like the president that we need to stand up there and say our constitution -- the comment he had about the patriot act really stupid for me. -- really sealed it for me.
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it made me want to vote for him. >> thank you so much. we baltic one last interview. i know folks in washington -- we have a gentleman who has been waiting a couple of minutes tell us what you are supporting dr. paul. >> it is almost as if the framers of our country have been read and credited to dr. paul and he is articulating the message they had when they found it. he respects the constitution and he believes and sound money. we have lost three presidents -- part of the motivation for that could have been the motivation of sound money. all of them were to get away from the fiat currency. i believe that ron paul truly is a hero. he understands his life is endangered and he is willing to give it all for the message that
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he is on. i love the man. i think he is a wonderful man. he could live a very comfortable life if he was not so committed to his belief in saving this country from disaster. he believes in personal responsibility and the diminishing of the sense of entitlement. i cannot say enough for him. i am down here from vermont. i am going to campaign during the day with his assigned to reach as many people as i can because this is a pivotal step -- a pivotal state. >> how far did you drive? >> just north of burlington. >> how long did it take? >> it took about four and a half hours because route for was flooded with after work traffic. >> thank you for talking to us. >> thank you. >> we have one last caller and it is a new hampshire person and see what is on their mind.
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just then is in manchester. what is your thinking going into tuesday? >> i voted for obama up back in 2008. he totally fooled me. i want to read one quick vote. if the american people ever let private banks control the issue of their currency by inflation and deflation, the banks and corporations that are up around them will deprive people of all property until their children went up homeless on the continent. that is a "by thomas jefferson that i believe ron paul is the strongest person running for president. he is the truest. people like mitt romney, newt gingrich, rick santorum, the mainstream media, cnn, they wanted to is these people for us. ron paul is the only candidates who will give us some money, peace around the world, and prosperity for everyone. >> that will be the last word
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from tustin and these defense for ron paul. here in new hampshire just a couple of days before -- >> if you really want to see the candidates, c-span takes you on the campaign trail. >> it is encouraging. i am pleased we are seeing the kind of crowd we are seeing. pretty exciting. >> go to town halls, at campaign rallies, meet and greet. >> thank you for coming.
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it was enjoyable. >> it was a pleasure for having a listening ear. >> i did have a question about bringing manufacturing back to the united states. what are some of your plans to do that? >> i want a tax code that clears out all of the loopholes and deductions -- >> watch campaign coverage on c- span and on our website c- span.org. newt gingrich says his campaign for president as one of the most focused process these he has ever been through. he prepares by getting advice from his two grandchildren and a drinking diet coke. he made these remarks on a call- in program new hampshire. this is 30 minutes.
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border and the want to welcome newt gingrich. >> good to be here. >> we have had hundreds of people questions on our facebook page and one that says -- what would you do to reverse citizens united and big money out of american politics? >> i would like to eliminate all of the bureaucracy and the petty rules that cripple candidates. i would allow people to get on limited after-tax personal income to give it to campaigns as long a they report it. we all know who was given and let the candidates raise the directive for their campaign to spend with them being responsible and overnight, 80% of the attack ads will disappear. candidates would not take responsibility for the kind of viciousness you get. it is really unfortunateo watch this spiraling downward. getting back to a point where the person who runs should be able to raise the money without having to be a millionaire and should be then responsible for the quality of their campaign
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would do more to clean the poison out of the system than anything else. host: were you angry tuesday night in iowa when you said you will go after mitt romney? you called him timid yesterday. >> i felt that i want a campaign of big ideas. in fact, the weight of the attack ads, 40% of the ads in iowa, or attacks on me. it makes you feel people a paying attention. it was not agar but the terms of the flight have to be let's have a contest, we will not run negative ads against mitt romney. we will have a contrast. i'm a reagan conservative than he is a massachusetts moderate. i am against tax increases. those are legitimate factual comparisons. i am happy to run the kind of campaign. when wstayed totally positive, the power of the ideas propel me
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into first place nationally and in iowa. i'm happy to go back and say if we have to run a contest campaign and be now or in our discussion, i will do that. it is not as much fun and as good for the country but it is acceptable. host: we have a line set aside for people who live in the granite state. the other numbers are on your screen. first up is from the republican line from baltimore, maryland. good morning. are you with us? caller: yes. host: you are on the air. caller: can you hear me? host: yes, go ahead. caller: i listened to the john mccain adds.
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it was going mittomney a liar. john mccain says that gingrich crossed the line and call romney a liar but in 2008, mccain called him a liar. host: thanks for the call. guest: that was perfect. i thought about this morning because i knew somebody knew about that. there was this 30-second ad where he has run the flip- floping. you had it exactly right. i think it is very funny, actually host: you also called her accent torme junior partner. can you explain that? gut: i was speaker of the house. i was leader of the house republican party and negotiate directly with the president. we got ralph -- welfare reform done directly. we got the first tax cut in 16
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years to negotiate directly. we did four balanced budgets. i place a devin role. rick santorum is a great leader on welfare reform are of all i said was what is the difference in experiee. i helped design and implement a national cpaign in 1980 with ronald reagan and 1984 and 1994 with the contract. it is fair to say that i had a larger roles speaker them her cat as a junior senator. he is a good guy. i don't think people should take offense.fens caller: good morning next speaker of the house. guest: good morning. caller: i want to ask all the candidates this question. aboutt sure how you feel this but if you can ask them in the next debate -- if you happen
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to not be the nominee - i don't think the field is strong enough. i will vote for you, the thinking man's conservative, but i don't you have chance against this juggernaut call obama and the millions of people who are hurting. but if you are not elected, what do you want the american people to remember about you? guest: that's a fascinating question. i'm slightly disagree with your conclusion. i belie when people confront the reality that obama has been the best food stamp president in american history and my work with ronald reagan created 1,300,000 jobs in august of 1983 alone and my work as speaker
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working with bill clinton, we created 11 million w jobs in four years. i would like to run as the paycheck candidate against obama as the food stamp candidate. i think we can probably beat him. i disagree with your conclusion such request was fascinating. i would like to be remembered for my public life, something i got for my father who spent 27 years in the infantry in the u.s. army. i have tried as a citizen to serve the cause of freedom and the cause of the united states. if i am remembered to somebody who fought and worked and wrote books and served in office as a citizen trying to protect america and trying to protect freedom, i would feel my life had been well spent host: this is from our facebook page -- what would you do regarding minimum wage if you became president? guest: i would try to get people to have rapidly growing jobs above the minimum wage. we need to have the kind of
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economic growth in jobs we had with ronald reagan and we had when i was speaker. if you do that, people enter minimum wage but the rapidly rise above it. that should be a beginning point and not an end point. host: this is from our line for democrats, where are you calling from? caller: i am calling from downey, california. host: go ahead. caller: i admire speaker gingrich for his historical acumen. i would like to clarify the comments he made about guns about three days ago he was more or less bringing god into the equation. others like him to clarify if god really supports guns. i'm not necessarily anti-gun but bringing religion in and saying it is god-given right to have as many guns as you want, obviously i am from england were the murder rate isow and japan is almost zero. i wanted to clarify.
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i don't think you should mix religion citing it as a god- given right to give everybody guns. other tn tha i admire his historical articulation. that is my question. guest: thank you for calling so early california time. i was speaking as an historian gary i havwritten a book called "discovering god in america" and a recent book called a nation like no other which explored the foundg fathers and their thinking. if you read the declaration of independence, it says we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. the founding fathers came back and wrote the declaration of the constitution, the second amendment does not say the governmentives to the right to bear arms. the second amendment says the right to bear arms shall not be abridged. thateant that the founding
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fathers thought that you're right to bear armsreceded the constitution and was part of what they regard as naturally endowed rights which they wrote in the declaration and that came from your crtor. the reference was not theological. it was for the belief system of the founding fathers that we are in doubt. -- endowed, our creator gives each one of us are rights that are unavailable which means god gives each individual sovereign. we loan power to the government which means the government is always subservient to the people which is why the constitution begins "we, the people of the united states --" it does not gra the right to bear on this. i's as the right to bear arms shall not be abridged. that impes that the right precedes the constitution and is an inherent natural right of self-defense. host: you have said this campaign is about the big
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issues. it is the country ready to have that conversation? guest: the country is but whether the media or political consultants are, i am not sure. the woman whose husband died prematurely from alzheimer's, she wants the conversation. she wants the conversation about brain science and alzheimer's and parkinson's and battle -- mental health. people on a conversation about how to create jobs and how we stop the iranians. the country is much more prepared for a large -- that's why i love cspan -- the country's more prepared for a conversation that either the news media or the political consultants. host: if the president is reelected, what will this country look like in 2016? guest: i think it will be poor, weaker, and more vulnerable. i think is a genuinely radical and his skills are very limited. i think you'll see continued decay. host: if newt gingrich is
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elected president, what will the country look like? guest: i always lend big support to the american people if we have strong support and we can run a campaign of ideas and if we have a team of house and senate candidates, we will be dramatically more dynamic and the economy will -- will be much bigger and there will be millions of additional jobs and the budget will be very close to being balanced by 2016. we will have a significantly smaller government in washington and more wer distributed back to the 10th amendment. host: jim is next from fort myers, fla., democrats line. caller: mr. speaker, thank you for your past performance i am in fort myers and one of 10 democrats that live here. i used toe in washington and work for senate majority leader who became head of appropriations. my question is about cleaning up
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washington. i think it is important that we get the money out of politics and that maybe from true campaign finance reform. what is your view on campaign finance reform? maybe even public finance reform and second, cal has the supreme court decision about super pacs helped or hurt the political process in the future. thank you very much. guest: given all the things you are seeing, we see that mitt romney's super pac is running negative ads in florida. the best way to get control of the money is to make it possible for individuals to give unlimited after-tax money to the candidates, make the candidates responsible for the campaigns and you would raply get rid of the sioux p [acs an outside spending and you have a focus on the candidates and they would be
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more responsible. the candidates would not have signed on as that are as-and dishonest as the super pacs were run and that is part of w they use them. what the dirty work done out there so they can stand and smile. if they had to sign the ads, you automatically bring down level of negativity by probably 80%. host: derry, new hampshire, go ahead. caller: mr. gingrich, someone needs to be met romney because he is no good v. why are you against people having food status because i think the republican put the country under with wars and thousands of people getting killed on both sides over dick cheney pause lies. why don't you guys talk about that? i have a choice. i would vote for you before mitt
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romney. i think the republican party put this country -- people the need food stands need them. what you have against people having food stamps? guest: i prefer that people have a job. i want to run on a campaign of people getting back to work, people being able to create a business, people going out and having a better future with their earning a better income. my goal is not to be anti-food stamp, it is to be pro-paycheck. that is probably a different approach. we want to try to stop governor romney. host: there are a few debates this weekend, one tomorrow and one on sunday. how are you preparing? guest: i think about it a lot what is the core message you are trying to get across it and how are you trying to communicate with the american people? i have regarded ever debate as an opportunity to reach out to
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the american people and communicate key values and key ideas. i don't actually debate my friend standing there, i try to talk directly to the american people. host: is there something that you try to do to prepare for these debates personally? guest: i usually drink a die coke. i get advice might two senior debate coaches. my granddaughter maggie who is 12 and my grandson robert to his tent. host: what they tell you? guest: maggie is in charge of my smiling. i am too intense. i write three things -- i read lincoln, slower because lincoln talked very slowly and he wanted you to hear each sentence before he started the next sentence. then i put a book smiley face and i write maggie. i have a line and then i go
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robert -- shorter, clearer. that is his advice. i try to skew of those three. host: we will go to range, new hampshire you are on the air. caller: i love new gingrich. why is sarah palin, all the candidates, they should come together and stand on stage and newt gingrich reminds me of lbj and rick santorum of jfk. put them together on the ticket either way. let's just be mid romney, please, don't let us down. guest: i think the point that the two colors in a row for new hampshire made about mid romney is interesting in terms of his relative strength. he bought a house here and spent five years campaigning here. this is one of his three best states of utah and massachusetts. when you look at his record, is almost impossible to imagine how
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he will debate obama. obama will start and say that obama care was based on mitt romney care. he brought in his staff to help in designing. mitt romney was the successful in raising taxes and raised about $750 million in taxes as governor. the desire to raise taxes is mutual. obama will point out that romney was very successful in getting liberal judges and massachusetts and pro-abortion judges. obama can point out that romney care approved abortion funds. it is interesting to see what the met runs counter would be. in many ways, as a massachusetts moderate in the tradition of dukakis in kerri, he is close to ama then reagan conservative tritions that is at the heart of the republican party. if you're going to debate obama, you should have somebody who is way over here. th $1 billion of obama will
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clutter the difference. if you're anywhere close to him, he will drive you down in negativity . host: are you trying to play down expectations? guest: he has an enormous amount of money. he has a big organization. it is important to be here and make the case. i think we will erode his lead to some. i think we will do better than the polls indicate. new hampshire is notoriously a state that decides vy late. people are talking now and the town hall meetings like the one last night tt you covered was one of the funniest meetings i have done. host: why was it funny? guest: it was one of those magic evenings where different people were just really good. the questions they ask -- there was one kid who got up the was 22-years old and said this is all about my future. he said most of the people of in this room won't be here.
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the way people reacted to him was worth a minute of him standing there like a vaudeville act. host: will go to richard from a range, new hampshire, go ahead. caller: good morning, mr. speaker. i'm a graduate of franklin pierceniversity. i am encouraging my friends to vote for you in the primary. however, i believe you're the candidate we need to face president obama in the general election because of your outstanding debat abilities. i like your idea of bringing the debate to president obama on a very positive scale. i will leave you with that thought, thank you. guest: first of all, thank you. i remember speaking at franklin pierce a couple of years ago. i think you have the marlin
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fitzwater center there. host: they do. guest: it was a fun event thank you very much. you make a key point -- if you ask who can beat obama, because he will have $1 billion and he is the incumbent president, go back to 1980 -- ronald reagan in late 1970's nine is 30 points behi jimmy carter. he gradually catches up but what makes the difference is that one debate where reagan says there you go again. we had better have somebody who can debate obama. if you cannot stand on the same platform and you cannot make clear the difference between the reagan conservative achievement. with reagan, we create millions of new jobs, six times as many jobs in august of 1983 as the obama program as this last month. under gingrich we created 11 new jo. i could stand there as an authentic reagan conservative on jobs and economic growth in the way the president cannot compete with.
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i can stand there of lowering taxes, not raising them in a with a president cannot compete. i can talk about what we need to do to reform things having reformed welfare in a way the president cannot compete and i could talk about bipartisanship. as a reagan republican in 1981, i work with republicans in the house and we had 1/3 of the democrats to vote with us. as a speaker, i work with a democratic president to get bills side. given obama possibility to work on bar a parsan basi -- to work on a bipartisan basis, i can't show that we have a better approach, a better track record, and a better philosophy for the country's future of host:. let me go back to our facebook page 3 >>
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in >> as a cabinet officer or a special assignment, a special assignment, he is a person with great talent. it is something that you should look at and i have great respect for. hpshire, go ahead caller: speaker gingrich, one of their most fundamental responsibilities would be as commander in. chief. i expect the president to have studied his predecessors. looking back at the last 200 years, when do you think it was a mistake for us to go to war and conversely are other times we didn't when you think we should have? i am trying toet a sense of when we use our military. guest: that is a very, very good question. this is george washington's commander in chief flag which
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flow over his command headquarters at valley forge. i wear it to remind myself that washington at philadelphia and the constitutional convention which he presided over, when they ride into the conitution that the president is commander in chief, the guy presiding was commander of the field for eight years. he knew exactly what the term meant. we should use force very cautiously. i don't want to go back to the various events in american history. you could raise questions about the spanish-american warnd why we got into it. there is a lot of good conversations we could have but i would tell you that i am in the ronald reagan tradition of wanting to be very strong and very, very careful. ronald reagan used forcen frequently. he built up our military dramaticly to intimidate the soviet empire and it worked because they collapsed. he was careful about using force and when he did use a, it was precise and overwhelming and
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liberated the island of grenada from a communist dictatorship. we used when air strike against gaddafi after americans were killed in the bombing in berlin by libyan agents. that scared gaddafi says decisively he was quiet for many years. ronald rgan did not believe in getting involved in long drawn out campaigns anywhere. he thought it was against american policy and the thought the american people would not sustain it. he his goal was to be very powerful and behind that power use diplomatic, in -- economic, intellectual a other capabilities to get our way and not to use armed force very often. there's a lot to be learned by studng how ronald reagan would and would at host: act. meredith, new hampshire, good morning. caller: how are you? guest: our you? caller: it was very impressive last night. host: it is on our website c-
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span.org if you want to watch the entire town hall meeting. caller: i loved everythinyou said. i followed you throughout. i am retired prepared i love the way you hang in there. despite many attacks by your own party. everybody else have collapsed by now. you are so strong and powerful i love everything that you say. your five points last night resonated so much among all of us. you have so many supporters throughout the united states. nobody, not even your party, decided not to watch anymore. i'm watching c-span only. crowd hammer krow
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--autmammer used to be my idol. he supports you. you have so many supporters and i would like to give you a hug. i had to leave early last night because of my grandchildren. you have to know and everybody has to note that all these attacks towards you, onceou are nominated, because you will be, are going to be used against republicans by the opposition in the attack. eds host: i will stop you there. much guest:ery thank you ve much. that made my day.
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ronald reagan had the 11th commandment of not attacking other republicans for a reason. host: he did ran against gerald ford. guest: he never engaged in personality attacks. he would disagree about policy but would not attack them as dividuals. he would be appalled to the negative advertising. ronald reagan had an innate sense of dignity and an innate sense of trying to create a contrast between ford negotiate the panama canal and he was against it. those are policy issues. it was not a personal fight. host: you have run for office before but never for president. how does this feel? guest: first of all, it is amazing. the complexity of the country and the scale of the process and the number of things you haveo know and do -- is exhilarating. you get this attention so you
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can develop an idyllic brain science and know you are communicating with thousands of people at a time. it takes enormous discipline. you can get totally sucked into minutia but i want to be focusing on ideas and trying to develop messages. you have to raise money on the one hand and make speeches on the other had. -- on the other hand. it was a bigger challenge than i thought it would be. thought i had a pretty good sense of the scale but the presidency is more comex, more intense process than putting together the 1994 campaign. that has been a surprise to maker host: are you in for a long haul regardless of what happens in after guest:? oh, sure, we came in knowing this is a matter on the state. this is where the media is and where the crowds are in our town hall meetings have been
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terrific. people show up and if you go to the north country and you are in places like lancaster of people show up and they are glad you are there, 160 people in a small town in the middle of the day. you have to feel good about that. the other purpose is educational. if you are prepared to go out at the town hall meetings where you take questions and listen, you learn about america. e questions in western iowa are nothe same as the questions in eastern iowa. the questions and i was not t same as the questions in new hampshire. new hampshire is not the same as south carolina. it is very helpful for a prident before they get to the white house to have been immersed in the american people and be able to draw on that memory, on the nature ofhe people they are leading in the nature of the country they are trying to lead host: one last
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question -- what our viewers through your typical day. guest: you get up as early as you can to do the first television show and you campaign all day and do the last tv show and you climb into bed exhausted and get up the next day a do the first tv show and campaign all day until you the last tv show and you fall asleep exhausted. it is the most focusing process i have ever been in. i spent all day -- i would guess an average day -- as my began a 6:00 a.m. and i was downstairs at 6:30 and on tv by 7:00. i would guess we will run tonightntil 10 or 11:00. same thing tomorrow. host: speaker, nt gingrich, thank you very much. all of ourvents including the town hall meeting from last night are available on our web c-span.org site at. >> if you really want to see the
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candidates, c-span's political coverage takes you on the campaign trail. [inaudible conversations] go to town halls, campaign rallies, and meet-and-greets. [inaudible conversations] >> thank you for coming, it was enjoyable. >> it was a pleasure having your listening here. >> i have a question for you, you talked about bringing it down here, what are your plans to do that? to do that?

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