he is supporting mitt romney for present. then politifact editor bill adair will review some of the statements and tv ads of the candidates. then a kentucky senator rand paul talks about his father, congressman ron paul's strategy in new hampshire. "washington journal" is next. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] host: one day to go until voters in new hampshire had to the polls. our coverage continues today. later on you will hear from sarah gets for both mitt romney and ron paul. if you want to call in on those two or and the other candidates, here is how you can do so --

for new hampshire residents, we want to get your perspective on what is happening in your state. 202-628-0184. as far as live coverage, ron paul at 10:30 a.m. today, at noon, mitt romney will be at a metal fabricating center, 7:00 p.m. tonight, john huntsman will speak at the exeter town hall. if you want complete coverage, here is how you can do so on c- span.org. we will direct you to our 2012 -- campaign 2012 website, a reservoir of information about what we are recovering from the hampshire and it is the best way to keep what we are following. as you are calling in, a couple of the stories. many highlighting yesterday's debate which you can see the of the video library. "the washington times." here is the headline --

a story about mitt romney and undeclared voters in "the wall street journal" this morning.

again, we are taking calls on the continuing coverage we are doing leading up to the new hampshire primary. the numbers --

if you live in new hampshire, -- we can take your comments on twitter as well. and facebook is available to you, too. and there are about 14 comments so far. one of them is gary, who says -- we will read those throughout the course of the program. you can call, twitter or facebook us for the next 45 minutes. and we will hear from sarah gets from mitt romney and ron paul as

well as bill adair, fund -- from the middle segment, talking about his organization politifact, and looking at candidates statements in debates and other situation where he weighs the truthfulness of statements that are made. larry on our democrats' line. go ahead. caller: good morning. i wanted to talk about newt gingrich calling the president of food stamp present. the reason more people are on food stamps now because the republican party the story in the e economy. and they did it on purpose in order to get back into office. as far as the market with obama, it is not going to happen. if anybody believes that, i have swat plan to sell them. host: that issue and heating programs have come up in recent debates.

have you heard this before going back and forth on these issues? larry is gone. the next call is bedford, new hampshire. caller: good morning. i went to an event at the jon huntsman -- i am confused why he is not -- he pulled down his pants -- host: chantilly, virginia. caller: thank you for taking my call. i want to say it is really the way things are going, barack obama will win. because i never seen a debate like this on saturday night. it was the most boring debate i ever heard in my entire night. host: is this the abc news the date from saturday? caller: yes. i was so disgusted.

sunday morning was a little better, but the reality of it i do not see how mitt romney can win. no matter how you slice it, that is no way mitt romney can be barack obama when he is staying at 25%. and no one asks him real questions -- the other candidate would not ask requests and about how did he lost his company. i mean, this guy, he is not a conservative. he is acting like he is but he is not. i think the real questions will come up if he becomes the nominee because there are a lot of reporters who will asking questions he has never heard before. he will blink his eyes like a always do when he gets upset. i think the republicans have to wake up and realize this is not the man. this is a fake republican and cannot win. host: you say he is not conservative. give me one reason why you think

it is the case. caller: the reality of it. go back to his record in massachusetts. he voted for a gay rights -- in the outcome of the question sunday morning, have you ever supporting gay issues. he says i am supporting right now. what does it mean? like ron paul, his ideas, he's crazy, he is saying what he has been saying 10 years ago. he has not changed nothing. you have to believe something. you cannot dance with the wind. we are not stupid. host: if it is not mr. romney or mr. paul, who is your candidate of choice? caller: reality of it -- i like huntsman, but for me, he is too late. because he has not spent money in some states. he has no money at all.

he has not put his name in illinois. he had a problem. host: there is jon huntsman from the event last night which you may have seen on c-span. you can go to the video library. let's talk to tommy from massachusetts on our independent line. caller: good morning. my choice would be ron paul. i think the man is honest. you have to have someone who can straighten everything right out. every candidate that gets in, politician that gets in, it is the same old stuff. but the same thing with bush, the same thing with obama. they don't do nothing. we just keep on doing the same old thing. i think we need a real good change and we have to straighten this country out completely. they cannot keep dividing us like they are doing right now. that is my comment. and i thank you for letting me speak.

host: this is from "the wall street journal" this morning.

rockford, illinois. democrats' line. caller: speaking of mitt romney. why not anybody asked him about the auto industry, which was going under, which he opposed the of the he opposed, but wants to take credit. -- which he opposed, and then he wants to take credit. bringing of the body together and getting the economy going,

when something as important as the auto came up he opposed of it, and president obama brought it out as a big success and then he wants to take all of the credit. this is the mitt romney that everybody says is a big businessman. host: you heard about the role of super pacs. here is the headline from "the new york times." if you go to their website, there is a preview teaser for the movie yet to be released.

here is a bit. clip: he took foreign seed money from latin america and began a pattern exploiting dozens of businesses. let: they fired people and sold assets. >> what did he do when he was the ceo of this holding company. this film will highlight just four targets, four businesses and the thousands of police who work there. host: winningthefuture is the website. indiana. good morning to richard, republican line. caller: i am concerned about huntsman's comments about trust. how can you trust if you don't

trust the morality? why blame the finance and lobbyists -- they are the tempters, what about the temptees? how could a good man be bribed? that is my whole point. here we are, blaming the one who dangles the character while those who keep reaching for its. to me, a congressman or anybody involved in government service or anywhere, if you have good people, they are not going to be bribed. i want a senator, president, congressman who can look anybody in the eye and say i will take your money but you will not get my vote necessarily. you cannot influence me. i am going to vote my conscience and for my constituents, period.

and i think the president, whoever he or she is, has to demand that kind of decency of morality. anyone working in government. host: "the washington post" this morning has a story in its style section looking at manchester, new hampshire's. "cracks in the granite state."

louisiana. randy, independent line. caller: this whole group of candidates, except for ron paul, they are all a bunch of rinos and ron paul spoke to his guns for 30 years. he has not changed last bit. 2008 debate -- now they are not laughing and he has a good following. he is the only one to vote for. these other people, they are just a bunch of rinos. host: what sets him apart? caller: he sticks to his guns and tells the truth. host: what about his policies, what do you appreciate? caller: getting rid of the federal reserve and the banking system that causes all the problems in the middle east. he is right on the money. and these other people, they did not want to talk about this and want to laugh at him, like this

little old man. this guy has it going on. people should have listened to him in 2008. the media is a great manipulator. that is for sure. and they are trying to tear him down. the people are afraid of him. the gop is afraid of him. and so are the democrats. he is the man to go for. host: roseville, michigan. amanda is on the republican line. caller: i agree wholeheartedly with the guy a couple of calls ago from indiana and also agree with the guide which spoke from louisiana. ron paul is consistent. people laugh at him and mocked his foreign-policy but in reality everything he says about the foreign policy is true. we have not fought an illegal war since world war ii, and his -- have not fought a legal war

since world war ii. not flip-floping. and in the debates, somebody says something about him and when it is time for him to be but if they get in 10 seconds and they have to go to commercial, so he never gets to finish and the of the winds rattle on and on. -- the other ones rattle on and on. i think he has so much more support than the average person thinks and i think he could make if the media would just tell the truth and stop being biased. host: aside from the media, have you weigh -- in terms of how he does polling-wise? caller: the polling they talk about on the tv and from the newspapers, i think they all are manipulated. if you look on the computer, all you get is ron paul. so, if you go by the millions of people taking polls over the internet and talking over the internet, and ron paul has the people's support.

if the people have their way, it would be a ron paul president. that is the only way i could explain it. host: at 9:15 a.m. dr. paul's son, senator rand paul, will be our best to talk about his father -- will be our guest. and we will be joined by former senator judd gregg, a supporter of mitt romney. that will be at 7:45 a.m. minnesota. tom, democrats' line. let me punch of the line first. go ahead. caller: i would just want to remind the voters that republicans -- bush was the one who got us into this mess, and i think to put a republican back into office is just asking for the same old same old. i support obama, and i think he has done a good job so far and i think he deserves another four years. if i was forced to vote republican i would vote for ron paul. host: qwest union, ohio.

fred, independent line. caller: i just want to make a point of interest with regards to the candidates. candidate paul, dr. paul, is a good man. he makes some very strong points on about 60% of his issues. but he is a little extreme on foreign affairs and foreign relations. other than that, he is definitely a good candidate. but we need to win, and the republicans need to take office. and we need a businessman as president. and mr. romney, barring the prejudice going on in this country, should be the choice for the republican party and the republican people, as well as independents. if we want a real change and not a hypothetical change, then romney is the guy. because mr. romney can win against obama. he is an excellent debater. and we need to get behind romney and quit playing games because

being prejudiced amongst ourselves is not going to accomplish anything. host: you mentioned prejudiced twice. what do you mean? caller: this big issue about him being a mormon seems to be a huge undertow factor across the country against mr. romney. i think it is absolutely ridiculous. it is like racial prejudice. it is time we put these things aside and focus on what is good for the united states of america. host: gary bauer in the pages of "usa today." sunday, he supporter rick santorum, has an op-ed piece. here is some of his argument this morning, saying --

ohio. good morning, richard. republican line. caller: i wanted to point out to people for a couple of days to consider when they are choosing who they are going to vote for, the first thing would be the national defense authorization act. they should know which way their candidate is going to vote on this. because that definitely needs to

be repealed. the other thing, rick santorum was a supporter of mitt romney in the late -- host: kankakee, illinois. good morning. caller: i don't think none of the republicans are going to be able to beat president obama. president obama made one mistake, thinking he could do everything -- when he had control of both houses he tried to do everything bipartisan and it never -- so i do not think any of them will be able to beat him. host: why not? caller: none of them have what it takes. host: a story about rick santorum in "the washington post." this is paul kane writing --

in the gop field, santorum is something of an anomaly -- western pennsylvania. al, independent line. caller: what that lady said about ron paul winning the election, with the popular people backing him. i believe that, too.

but i don't believe the people have the power to elect a president. the electors or college picks our people. there have been people elected as president who won with the popular votes and still lost the election. that is not right. they must get rid of the electron college and go with what the people want. not what they want. and i believe the news media the he's the favorite, mitt romney. and this is not right. the news media is pushing him, saying mitt romney would be the best person for president. i don't believe that is right. host: somerville, massachusetts. democrats in line. caller: like i said, the office of the president of the united states demand a real respectful person in there. and none of these people -- i

think huntsman is somewhat good of the rest of them, i think are terrible to be a president of the united states, especially romney. he had it -- has been in business for his own benefit. all are doing bad things against one another. why would we want any of these people that we can to respect? we have to have somebody in there with a clean trail behind them, and none of them has. host: when did you start seriously looking at job once the? caller: i think i started probably -- but certainly after the start of the debates. i think about the second debate i started thinking more and more and then i heard him off and on tv talking and it did sound like he cared more about the people and the country then talking bad

about other people. host: are there specific policies that mr. huntsman advocates that you follow along with? caller: i think so. everytime i see and hear him, i watched him. i was going strongly for obama, but the way he has been talking, i think he is getting to me. host: we have had two debates over the last two days. how much has it helped in your decision making process or as you think of the issues of which candidate to support? caller: i think quite a bit. because they are talking more about the facts of helping people enduring -- doing for his country. not personal things. he does not seem to be knocking other people as much as they are knocking each other. i think he is more sophisticated and he is a good,

religious man, and this is the kind of man we need for the office of the present. host: so bank, at -- so, if you admit the two debates, but one by abc saturday, or driehaus visits -- or, the house visits, you can go to c-span.org, are 2012 campaign home page will give you all of the information, videos and other elements, as you look through the process. there it is on tv. portland, oregon. you are going to be next. caller: hello? yes. we've got a long, long way to go before this is all over with. new hampshire is not the center of the world. a lot can happen between now and election time. the economy is sitting on

quicksand right now. you know. that romney is a head and he is going to be campaigning against obama is --we have a long way to go. i don't see how these people can even make the comment that the net romney is the only one that can beat obama. point,o the caller's there are pieces in "the new york times" this morning taking a look at the process we are in.

then he goes to phase two -- the third phase, he says, is a slog. in "the new york times" and op- ed piece by bill keller on changes he is recommending to the obama campaign as they look to their reelection efforts. this specifically looks at the current secretary of state hillary clinton.

marblehead, massachusetts. republican line. caller: good morning, c-span. i think it is unlikely that republicans will be able to beat president obama in the general election because, if ron paul is not the nominee of the gop, the 10% to 20 -- to 20% will either sit out the election or right in his name. in the interviews and debates, ron paul repeatedly gets asked if he will run as an independent. which, of course, would throw the election to obama. but what the gop fails to grasp is that he does not have to run as an independent to throw the election to obama. if the gop continues to marginalize him, ron paul supporters will not support the gop nominee. and that is where he has leverage. host: tampa, florida.

susan is on our independent line. csusan, are you there? tampa, florida, one more time. tampa, florida, good morning. we will go next to charlotte, north carolina. raymond, democrats' line. caller: good morning. i go two -- i got two things i want to address. in order to be the president of the united states you should represent all people, no matter what race they are, no matter how wealthy they are. i think our president should be a president who has had -- person who has had some experiences understanding what it is like to start from the bottom up. i have some concerns about a lot of the racial overtones of the republicans. we all know who they really get

behind or who they really try to implement most of their -- what they plan to do for, and that is for the rich folks. i feel that it would be a disservice to the other -- which, most of the people are not rich, so it would be a disservice to everybody else. i think we need somebody, which obama, i think, has been a balanced job. i think he tried to reach out to the republicans and they treated him like he was trash and they were very disrespectful. so, i do not have any respect for the republicans. host: in "the washington times," 8 frequent guest, tony blankley, died at age 63.

he was 63. he had been battling stomach cancer. at the time of his death he was executive vice president at a public relations firm in washington, a senior fellow of the hard hit -- ever since foundation, newspaper columnists and on air commentator for cnn, nbc, and npr. from 1990-1997, press secretary and adviser to house speaker newt gingrich, earning a reputation as one of washington's most genial, quick witted, an effective operatives. newt gingrich, campaigning on sunday, called his former press secretary "a very dear friend and a key part of the team behind the 1994 contract with america." there is a picture of pictureblankley who died of stomach cancer at age 63 -- a picture of tony blankley. gabrielle giffords, a picture of

her leading the pledge of allegiance. according to the caption, it was the first opportunity to see her since the shooting left her injured a year ago. some of the story went on to say in the year after she was shot, u.s. representative gabrielle giffords led thousands in saying the pledge of allegiance. watching the congresswoman holding her hand to her heart and reciting the pledge was an unexpected part of the candlelight vigil to honor 19 people who were shot in tucson last january. six people killed, 13 others were injured. her aide ron barber emceed the event. back to calls. conn. peggy, independent line. caller: i think voters are sick and tired of the gridlock. i know i am. i want them to address that, some of these candidates. i think every legislator in the congress, in the house, should

have a sign in the office saying that every idea i have will be good, that every idea they have will be bad. i am very tired of hearing its mcconnell saying no matter what obama puts before us, much like it down. that is not what this country needs. let's get the gridlock out of washington. and the candidates better address it. it is important to me. , a democrat from kentucky things jon huntsman may surprise the media. michael from alexandria, virginia -- as we have been sharing with you, the latest surveys from suffolk university and channel 7 news, taking a look at polling, new hampshire, this is how would ranks today. mr. romney, 33% -- this was

taken january 7-8 -- followed by dr. paul, 20%, jon huntsman, 13%, newt gingrich at 11%, rick santorum, 10%, rick perry, 1%, undecided voters also weighing in, coming in at 12%. new jersey, laurie -- maury, democrats' line. caller: thank you so much for taking my call. i am really very much disappointed in the republicans. you know, i came to this country from foreign place years ago, almost 34 years ago, and i came here because of what america stood for, one of which is simple execution of the democratic principles and the

republicans have totally turn their backs on it because of whatever reason they have. who is saying -- or why would they be saying that president obama has failed this country, that he is not a great leader? the man has killed osama bin laden when the republicans and bush failed to catch him in tora bora. the man has turned the economy around from the abyss that the republicans had put into the ditch. [unintelligble]rn but they are being paid and the families are benefiting from these government jobs. if romney were to win, does he

expect people to believe him, to trust him, when he is the flip- flopping in chief? who will trust somebody who is a flip flop for? he can change his mind any time. he can never provide the good leadership that he is saying that obama is not providing. and there is a lot more. thank you. host: new orleans. good morning. houston is on the republican line. caller: listen to me -- with the racial profiling and confusion among the candidates, the democrats to not have to do nothing. republicans will not themselves off. it is ridiculous how confusing. they have to get their act together or the democrats will win. host: from "the washington post" of the three numbers that matter section.

8 is the number to highlight. the number republicans seized on as the marker of a true economic recovery. arcadia, florida. clyde, independent line. caller: good morning, pedro. mitt romney, he is just part of the republican establishment. he cannot win. if he does get selected as the candidacy, the newspapers would just tear him apart. he has obamacare. he is the one who implemented it in massachusetts, the same thing obama has. it would be a turkey shoot. ron paul is the only candidate who will make any difference. if you notice, he is the only

politician in congress that talked about the federal reserve, which is the banking system, which is pulling the strings for all of these candidates. they are puppets. host: what happens to your vote if dr. paul does not get the nomination? caller: then he needs to go to third party. there is going to be no difference between the republicans and democrats except in little but a spending. and more acting. these are actors. you had ralph nader on over the weekend saying the president has committed about four or five acts of impeachment -- taking a to war in the middle east, without not only authorization of congress but without even notifying congress. also with this national defense authorization act, which basically gives of the president martial law. we are under martial law right now. we have a dictatorial president who is a global marxist. it is very obvious.

none of these candidates -- it is a big show. ron paul -- host: you are supportive of dr. paul. if he does not run as a third party, what happens to your vote as far as republican presidential candidates? caller: i will write in dr. paul because he is the only real candidate, the only real person who is for the people. host: georgia. glenn, a republican line. caller: good morning, pedro. i am kind of leaning toward sanatorium -- santorum. but i want to address the caller who called in and said bush got us into this mess. i would like to know how bush done it. it was the democrats who took over the house and senate in 2006. that is when things went down. democrats went and got us into this mess.

and then when obama was elected, he made things worse, that $800 billion so-called stimulus, he blew and wsated that -- wasted that money and it is gone. host: why do you support rick santorum? the amoco he is going to turn this country around. -- caller: he is going to turn this country around. he is the one who is going to get everything straightened out. host: how do you think specifically he will make it happen? caller: he is going to but cut the taxes, he is going to do -- with obama's host: you made the point, we

will leave it there. continue to stay with us and we go through what the course of the morning. the new hampshire primary and campaign 2012. later on, we will hear from bill adair politifact who sat through some of the debates saturday and sunday engage truthfulness. later on, senator rand paul, son of dr. ron paul, to talk about the campaign. but up next, judd gregg, supporter of mitt romney for president. we will hear from him when we come right back. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> if you really want to see the candidates, c-span's "wrote to the white house" coverage takes you on the campaign trail. >> it is encouraging. i am pleased we are seeing the kind of crowd we are seeing and the enthusiasm. >> go to town halls, campaign

rallies and meet and greets. [crowd chatter] >> thank you for coming. it was enjoyable. >> it was a pleasure. >> i do have a question for you. he talked about bringing manufacturing back here into the united states. what are some of the plans to do that? are you planning on taxing some of the big companies who are shipping work overseas? >> i want a tax code that clears out all of the -- >> watched the new hampshire primary coverage on c-span television and on our website, c-span.org. host: back to new hampshire as

we continue our coverage for the new hampshire primary. as promised, joining us from there in our studio on location is former governor of new hampshire, former senator for new hampshire, judd gregg, also a supporter for mitt romney. governor, could you tell us when it was you decided to put your support for mr. romney? guest: well, my wife and i talked about it for quite a while. there were a lot of people running, or who considered running, who were friends who we admired. but we decided to support governor romney last summer, i think. host: what specifically is it about mr. romney, in principles and the issues that he has proposed that set him apart from other candidates? is thei think he guy who could get this country going to get. we as a nature -- as a nation

are unfortunately struggling. we have a massive debt will i think will bring us down if we do not address it. we have a government that is becoming excessively regulatory in its approach to small business especially, making it hard for small businesses to compete. we are participating in a lot of international activity that needs strong leadership, where the world looks to us and expects us to leave. we did not seem to have that type of leadership, in my opinion. i think governor romney carries a strong message in all of those areas. i think he clearly understands you got to get the fiscal problems under control, or you cannot get the country to be economically strong. and it if you do not stray in now fiscal house we will be passing this -- straight to up our fiscal house we will be passing all of this to our children. he appreciates we have to address the debt problem. he also understands how to create jobs. jobs are created in the private

sector and not created by government. that is important from my viewpoint to have somebody understands job creation, because that -- the basic quality of life is tied to the ability to have a good job. and he appreciates the fact that the massive expansion in the size of government cannot be continued. we have to rein in the regulatory excess, occurring at the federal level, making it very hard for small businesses to compete and be successful. and i think he will be a strong international voice for us, making it clear america is willing to leave in the world -- because there is no one else who subscribes to the values we have which is so important, and so many people round the world look to these values and it is important to of a strong spokesman. host: business skills -- what would you tell those who expressed here on the show, those republicans who were on the stage, about mr. romney's career at bain capital?

how would you express -- address those concerns? guest: i would say that he went out and took risks and created jobs. sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. that is how the private sector functions. you know, folks to look to the government to create jobs cannot appreciate the fact that every job that is creative and the government has to have a private sector job paying the taxes to support it or it would not exist. you have to have a vibrant private sector. you have a vibrant private sector by having competition and people who go out and are a lot cheaper norris who take risk. -- entrepreneurs who take risks. of the governments of the kids that ability or makes it difficult to take the kind of action, then you will not have a vibrant economy. when you have a government that taxes excessively or regulates excessively or creates an atmosphere where the government

is so big that it crowds out business's ability to borrow money, that is a problem. and i think mitt romney understands that you can't create a stronger economy if you have a government that is excessively large. host: his career at capital, this film coming out from this super pac -- what the make of that as it comes out and the overall in the campaign, talking about his history at bain capital. guest: first off, i have not seen the film. i understand it is a very negative piece. but that is politics. as he says, if you can't handle it, you should not be in the business. you should not be running for office. i am sure he will have a very effective response to what ever it says. but there is no question this election is going to be, i think, a very typical election for our nation. we have two paths we can choose. the president has decided to put us on the path to an ever expanding government. we have gone from the

government historically 20% of gross national product under this president, and it has gone up to 23.5% and is headed toward 30. that is european-style government. that is a huge percentage of the economy being absorber by the federal government. i think it is the wrong course. first, it is extremely expensive. you end up either with this mass of dead or a tax burden which makes it very hard for the private sector to be competitive. secondly, it is just not our culture. our culture is not to have a large, wealthier state kind of government. we are a center-right nation. we believe in giving people opportunities. we do not believe the government to be in everything. the choice is whether we want to continue on this path of expanding the government along the european model or if we want to return to the american model of exceptional was on where you give individuals the ability to expand the economy by giving them an atmosphere where they will take risk and investment.

this will be a clear choice. obviously the president is going to -- and is already -- trying to divide the country. going from all unchanged to divide and blame. he will run a campaign on envy -- something inconsistent with our country -- culture. we do not believe in envy, but opportunity, people taking risk and creating opportunity not only for themselves but those who work with them. i think this campaign will be about what type of culture we want. we want a culture that is divided and has this class warfare atmosphere and language like you get in europe, or eric holder that continues the american approach toward sectionalism and opportunity and optimism. host: our guest is here until 8:30. we put our numbers on the screen and also a special number for new hampshire -- debra, the first caller. caller: first, i want to say and

you were my governor and congressman and senator and we were calling for you to run for president herself. you are supporting mitt romney and we will as well. of course, mitt romney has very high expectations for the campaign. what kind of lead you think he needs to avoid a disappointment and how big is mitt romney's penis? to host: apologies, governor. charlotte, north carolina. caller: with respect to mitt romney, i would like to know where is bain capital now and why is he not still doing what he is doing if he was making a change? because i have not seen anyone. i watch politics of the closely. i have not seen anyone come out and tell mitt romney, thank you.

none of these people have come out that he so-called created jobs for -- has fattened his pocket, and that is cool -- i am not against the private sector or anything like this. mitt romney, come on? just saying he has private sector experience, that is nothing. that is not a president. the president has really high standards. if anybody who have private sector experience -- i could be president. host: we will let the guests respond. guest: not anybody is running for president here. what we have are a series of candidates running for president and the person i think who has the most ability to be the next president is mitt romney. it is not only his experience leading and working in the private sector in creating jobs, which he did it, and i think you will probably appreciate that if they have a job at staples or any of other places where he basically built these enterprises to being so successful. but also his leadership of the

olympics. he turned it around. that was pretty impressive. olympics are very hard things to put on and it was in serious trouble, the winter olympics in salt lake, and it brought him in and he turned round and the end of the successful and actually made money for utah. and then of course he was governor of massachusetts, a big state. pitsch with a very complex system of government -- a big state with a very complex system of government, who week -- that we in new hampshire make fun of because a lot of people in massachusetts moved to new hampshire to avoid the massachusetts burden but he reduced that burden. while he was governor of massachusetts, i was serving in government in new hampshire and we used to have a huge exodus of people like mike dukakis coming up to new hampshire after they built their businesses up to 10 or 15 people, they could not deal with the massachusetts government. we benefited from that significantly at a state. but when mitt romney was governor of and actually wled

was governor before him, it stopped, the exodus, because the state became much more receptive to people in the private sector who were creating jobs. so, he's got a pretty good track record, in my opinion, and a strong track record, and of the candidates running on our side i think he will have the best chance of running strongly against president obama. this election -- for president obama to win -- i believe, because he really has taken the country down the wrong path, he'd be passed to make the republican candidate issue. his policies cannot be the focus of the campaign. so, if they were economic somebody who he can character or make a person the issue, he will probably be reelected. but if we nominate somebody like mitt romney who can stand up and say i have this strong record, and this is what i intend to do, and not the caricatured by the obama machine, i think the president will have a very challenging reelection effort.

because when you look at the policies he has put in place, they really have not worked. especially on the domestic side. and they are taking us down this road of dramatically expanding the size of our government and the cost of our government and the burden of our government, none of which i did most americans want. host: the republicans on stage took on from the's rationale for running for president. one of them was newt gingrich. here is a bit of the exchange concerning the rationale, and i want to get your response. clip: can we drop a little bit of the pie is baloney? you ran in 1994 and lost and that is why you are not -- were not serving with rick santorum. you have a very bad re-election rating. you dropped out of office -- out of state for 200 days and preparing to run for president, -- you were running for president while you were governor, going all over the country, held a stake

consistently, probably reentered politics and happen to lose to mccain. you have been running consistently for years and years and years. so, this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind -- just level with the american people. you have been running at least since the 1990's. host: governor judd gregg, what about mr. gingrich's assertion? guest: well, newt is newt, and i think one thing i like onemitt is a positive campaign -- one thing i like about mitt romney is his policy -- positive campaign. we should be focusing on obama's policies. these types of attacks, i did not think, are all that constructive and, really, i did not see it as being a very viable statement. host: fredericksburg, virginia. republican line. louise. caller: good morning. i personally -- i would not like

to see mitt romney win. i guess i would vote for him. but i would want to see somebody like rick perry or jon huntsman. i do not want to see -- use a character -- like they did george bush. george bush was a fine man and no matter what they did, he did not use big words. everybody i like jon huntsman and rick perry. those are the two that i think should win. i think we need to support israel less and become a member of the world. i'm for preparing. i think he has good ideas. social security is a ponzi scheme. anybody can make gaffes or

misspeak. host: governor gregg. guest: i respect the caller's opinion. candidate andn my she is chosen it -- i guess she is still thinking about, and the respect that. we have some talented people that are running. that is why we have these early primaries and caucuses. once we get a nominee, i presume most republicans will support that person and we will come together as a party. everybody has a right to their opinion. host: rochester, pennsylvania,

on our independent line. caller: the burden of the government with obama is the result of having to take care of the mess that republicans left. you talk about a country about nvy. you worked in congress for 12 years. ow you're taking a big fat paycheck from goldman sachs so you can make money to give it to people like mitt romney and continue this credit system that we have -- this crooked system. there'll be an occupying washington and millions of people show up.

guest: the junkman has a right to his opinion -- the gentleman has a right to is opinion. host: unemployment is 8.5%. what if unemployment keeps dropping. he keeps running on his ability to improve the economy. guest: let's hope it does. i think we're moving towards a good recovery. it would be a much more robust recovery if we had a government that was more tolerant and supportive of people who take risks and make jobs. you can only keep americans down so long and they start doing

things. that is what is happening in our economy. people are moving forward. if we had a government that was getting the deficits and debts under control, we were not looking at potential train wreck. if we have a government that was not putting such a big tax burden on people who are creating the economic activity, the small businesses and job creators. i tend to think our recovery is coming. it would be much more robust if we had a government that was more responsible in the area of supporting it. host: what does mitt romney offer to those points? guest: if you had policies like

ones that mitt romney is proposing, then this recovery would be a lot faster and more people will be going back to work. we will be getting a recovery but it would not be with more reparobustness. they are laboring on the burden of debt -- layering on the burden of debt. if you take those things off the table, like mitt romney would, you would see a much faster recovery. we had job growth of 800,000 jobs a month as we started to come out of a recession. we're not seeing that at all.

we're seeing 200,000 if we're lucky. caller: good morning, pedro. a couple of questions that i hope i will be able to get answers to. you have been asked questions and you refused to answer the questions. you advocate the people should support you for mitt romney. pedro asked you what would mitt romney would do for changes of the economy. you never answered. the other gentleman brought goldman sachs. you are not an honest man. you sound like rick santorum. do you believe with that?

most people who collect food stamps have a caucasian background. host: governor gregg. guest: i think some of your callers got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. mitt romney would create tax policy which to be more conducive to entrepreneurs taking risks. he would reduce the regulatory excess and would create an atmosphere so that the government debt does not become the problem of the next generation. he would have an energy policy that would be much more american centered so we would be producing the energy we need in the united states rather than having to buy it from overseas.

here,y're going to school stay here to create jobs. he has specific proposals and i've outlined them. the other issues are personal and have no relevance here. my role at goldman sachs is i'm an international adviser. host: connecticut, charles, republican line for governor judd gregg. caller: good morning. i always appreciate you on the floor. my first vote for president was for president truman, a democrat. what i would like to say -- as a republican, i am not happy with

the whole republican contenders. what i would like to see is every one of those contenders advocate his position and advocate the drafting of senator tom coburn, who would have more public support than any presidential nominee since george washington. i would like to have your opinion on that. thank you. guest: if you get a republican president as the next president, i think tom coburn will play a major role in that administration if he wants to. tom coburn works part and he is very thoughtful on issues of fiscal policy. he has put out a list of places where we could save money and an excellent man you -- menu to try

to reduce the growth in government. i'm a fan of tom coburn. he is not running for reelection. if i were president, i would try to get him in my administration. i'm not running for president intend to.ot atten he would be a positive force. host: if you were asked what makes mitt romney a conservative, how would you respond? guest: i think his experience. it will be nice to of someone who created jobs in the private- sector. think about president obama's

experience before he became president. he was a state senator from illinois. you have to understand how the economy works and how people when they take that risk of creating a job, put their whole livelihood at risk. the person who starts a restaurant or a software company, those folks are going through a lot trauma to be successful, and if they are successful, they create jobs for people. it will be nice to have a president that understands that. the strength and vitality of our nation comes from individuals who take risks and create jobs. host: what does it mean for

khmer romney? -- mitt romney? guest: he would encourage entrepreneurship and encourage people to take risks and create jobs, where government has a responsibility to participate in making the workplace safe and help making our country health week through regulation. it cannot be excessive and directive at targeting certain industries and trying to make them uncompetitive as the current structure is as it expands under this administration. he would reduce our federal debt. our debt is going to triple in 10 years and we will be in the same type of situation as some of the european countries. host: along same-sex marriage

and their rights and this is how mitt romney responded to that. clip: i do not discriminate. a member of my cabinet was gay. in my view, we should not discriminate in hiring or legal policies. i said to the gay community, i do not favor same-sex marriage. that has been my view. if people are looking for someone who will discriminate against gays were tried to suggest the people with sexual orientation do not have rights, they will not find that in m e. guest: that was a pretty comprehensive statement of his approach. basically he is saying he is not going to discriminate and that he believes that people should be able to participate in his

administration no matter their sexual orientation. host: have you articulated a thought on the constitutional amendment towards marriage? guest: he said he was for that, i think. caller: good morning. i'd like to make a comment that we have a wonderful democratic process of elections. looking at the republican field, we're dealing with some candidates who are talking about the truth. i think ron paul and jon huntsman are hammering home the truth. i like to comment on the senator -- he was talking about a platform of division. that is kilobit too political for me -- that is a little bit

too political for me. we are in the deep debt and the only way that we can get out of that is to get into the debt. we have to get the money out to the businesses, the small businesses in particular. the only way we can do that is by eliminating the debt. what would the senator proposed to do that? guest: i am not in the senator and a longer. i wanted to get our deficit and debt under control. i have led bills the the senate which accomplished that. i was the author of a budget reconciliation bill that reduced the size of our entitlement

spending by tens of billions of dollars. i proposed language which would eliminate an entire town element -- an entire entitlement, and they had to kill the program. i have a pretty strong record in this area. i have proposed numerous bills and had some success. host: st. petersburg, florida, don. caller: i have a question on governor romney's support for the second amendment. i heard he passed a law that all guns have to be registered and

you would pay a $100 fee to the state for every gun that you owned. is there any facts to that? guest: i cannot believe that is true. host: democrat's line from michigan, becky, good morning. caller: i am so sad. i hear the republicans talking. you were one of the republicans that i have respect for. my husband is in his 50's and his job of 30 years he lost four years ago. for three years he put in applications everywhere, everywhere, and during that time, he got a call back on 3.

thehe three, he didn't get job on the last cut or whatever. he is not making minimum wage. we went from $25 an hour down to minimum wage and luckily we just -- we live in a small house. we have used cars and we had to declare bankruptcy because the credit cards were threatening to take us to court and we didn't have the money to pay them or we would have. we do not believe in that. my husband's brother is sending us $500 a month and my daughters are resending -- are each sending $100 to keep us afloat. this is represent -- he never

comes here. he sends his aides. he does not want to see this place. host: and your question for our guest? caller: what are you talking about? you are talking about the comic like it was 10 years ago -- you're talking about the economy. host: let our guest respond. guest: she is going through tremendous trauma and her husband is, too. the best way is to get the economy going. there are two approaches. there is the approach of this administration that you grow the government by creating a larger

government. there is the approach that i take which is you encourage the private sector to expand. these are two different approaches. how they affect this woman's situation, i can say that i think our economy will grow more robustly if we give the people of the individuals in this country who are willing to go out and create more jobs by having a government that is less intrusive and less of a burden. host: jackie is next from ohio. caller: i am an independent and there are two issues that i think romney will end up being the republican candidate. i think romney is a truly compassionate conservative. i think some of those values

were reflected in some of his actions in massachusetts like making sure those have access to health care. i hope once he gets through, the evangelicals and the teabag gers, i think he is going to fly and be a real contender against obama. where are they both heading in regards to our foreign policy? will they be racing us towards iran? or will they be based foreign- policy on evidence -- real, true facts. the other issue is the lack of regulatory oversight which brought us to this point.

the lack of regulation is what got us here. will they hold those who got us to this point with the economy -- i encourage people to watch professor william black on youtube. he was the head of litigator during the savings and loan scandal and he said there were 10,000 prosecution referrals and over 1000 people were prosecuted. the middle class is held responsible for the crimes we commend. host: if you could trust the foreign policy aspects first. guest: i'm not sure which one she is speaking to. a president does not know what he or she is going to get in farm policy until it arrives. i'm sure president bush did not

expect to be a work president, but we have been attacked and we responded. what will be the next hop. ot point? it appears it will be iran, but it could be pakistan. it could be some relationship issue with china. you need somebody that you of confidence is a good decision maker and understands how to lead. that is one reason why i support mitt romney. president obama foreign policy has been pretty good on balance. i do not disagree with a lot of the initiatives he has taken in the area of farm policy. i thought the decision about

executing osama bin laden was the right decision as president. and his decision on iraq is the right decision. it was time to get out. i would like to see us to accelerate our withdrawal from afghanistan. those are my views. you have to elect somebody that will make intelligent decisions and can lead and i think medtronic is that type of person -- and i think mitt romney is that piper person. -- is that type of person. caller: i will support ron paul or jon huntsman. thank you. host: if mr. paul decided to go

to a third-party candidacy, what happens to mitt romney's campaign? guest: this primary process is not over yet. we've only had iowa and we have not had new hampshire yet. i would not presume who that nominee is going to be. governor romney is in a strong position. the unexpected happens occasionally. as to ron paul, he is but for a strong case and he has an art following in new hampshire and in other places and he will do well. host: chicago on the democrat line. caller: good morning. i do not agree with the conservative view that

government cannot and will never create jobs. since mr. gregg has been an employee of the government for24 years, i want to know what it comes from -- for 24 years. the constitution provides for the government to create jobs. it created the legislative plans and controls the house and the senate and created the judicial branch. every town, city, and state has a government jobs. we have police, fire, teachers, public health workers. what is as garbage about government does not create jobs? guest: government does not create the economy that creates jobs. every government job has to be paid for by revenues, primarily

in the private sector. unless you have a robust private sector, you cannot have a strong government. you cannot put governments be the job creator in an economy because the government has to be supported by the private sector in order to exist. will we see in countries where the government has got a large is that it gets very stagnant and they do not have the robust prosperity that we had as a nation for so long. host: what are you doing in new hampshire for mr romney -- mr. romney? edro.: i'm losing you, page host: your role in the romney

campaign. guest: i do not have any official title, i do not think. i just support him. i have been to a number of his events. we're friends and admirers of what they have done and what they represent. host: glenn bernie, maryland. caller: good morning. how're you doing? guest: i'm doing ok. caller: as an advocate for mitt romney, i am independent- leaning. in the past, their art to its incidence of money being spent. there is money being spent in iraq and money being spent trying to seed the american

economy. $800 billion -- which to advocate on behalf of your candidate that was better spent or would you advocate money or to save the american economy. the $800 billion was spent in iraq. host: we will let our guest respond. guest: the first obligation is national defense as a national government. we were attacked. the decision was made to go into iraq as part of the war on terror.

we went in with our people putting their lives on the line. when something like that happens, you give them every dollar of support they need. it is about giving people in the field and putting their lives at risk the support they need to make sure they have what they need to fight the war effectively. the two are not related at all. alle's no relationship at to a stimulus package and fighting a war. you don't compare the two. host: our guest has been judd gregg, a supporter of mitt romney. thank you for your time. we'll speak with bill adair with an organization known as politifact.com or they take a look at ads to gauge their

truthfulness. media descending to cover the primary. today we look at the first oftwo radio hosts. >> we are in radio row in downtown manchester. there are about 30 different radio shows that will be broadcasting in about three rooms. they are expecting candidates to show up. on the board they have some sort get stopping by. we have someone from new hampshire radio today and they will be broadcasting later. tell us about your show. >> the only afternoon live talk show that originates from new

hampshire. we have the candidates:. host: have you had all the candidates? guest: usually two or three a day. they call anin. newt gingrich has been terrific. host: give us your assessment of this field and was the ground game is like in new hampshire. guest: the most organized have been the mitt romney campaign. ron paul has been organized. rick santorum had a presence but is trying to scrape with all the attention out of iowa. i don't know how much of a ground game newt gingrich has. this is more a race for second and third then first.

host: will they be coming on your show? guest: oh, yes. rick santorum around 4:00 p.m. ron paul will call in. there is always a surprise in new hampshire. they will come in and say it is romney and then paul. i am sensing movement. the big question is can jon huntsman break 20%. host: the polls show that jon huntsman is on the rise. guest: you look for a general trend. four years ago there was a barack obama and hillary clinton.

george w. bush had a comfortable lead. bill clinton and paul tsongas. i think you'll see mitt romney stay about 35%, 36%. new hampshire voters do not like to be told who will win. ron paul has been very steady. does rick santorum have enough movement to get into the 20%? the last thing is newt gingrich. eight months ago he was sitting on top of the world -- a month ago, he was sitting on top of the world. does gingrich break 20%? >> talk to us--

host: talk to us about radio row. guest: today and tomorrow will be the heaviest. surrogates comesir gets co in. then c-span comes by. host: how long have you been doing this? guest: my show is about four or 5 years old. this is my first formal year of playing a role here. they have been organizing radio row for about four or five years. it is a great way to center in new hampshire. this is the olympics of the media in politics. host: thank you very much. guest: thank you.

luck.od host: back in new hampshire. we will take a look at another group of radio hosts. we're joined by bill adair with politifact. he is an editor. guest: we are fact-checking website and we have nine other states where we have reporters from the various news organizations that do fact checking. the purpose is to take claims and research them and come to an independent conclusion about whether they are true or false. host: when you look what happened over the past two days, what is your general assessment

about what is being said and what is truthful? guest: a lot of false closed yesterday and also on -- a lot of falsehoods yes day and also on saturday night. these are talking points the week researched in tremendous depth. this is the nature of campaigning. you repeat your talking points and in some cases they do not stand up to research. host: how you and your group analyzed these claims for their truthfulness? independenta to some sources -- we go to independent sources like the congressional research service, the census bureau.

we make an effort to find original data. we try to go behind the surface and dig deeper. we talked to sources on both sides of the claim and try to find somebody who is independent and then come to an independent judgment. to come up with the truth-o- meter ruling, it requires three editors and they decide whether the truth-o-meter is true or not. host: you can ask questions about what is being said in the campaign and here's how you can ask your questions. 202-737-0001 for democrats. 202-737-0002 for republicans. it-628-0205 for

independents. you can reach us on twitter or on facebook. you said you rate the truthfulness and you have a section that stems from a debate looking at record. and what he said about barack obama. guest: he was asked in the new hampshire debate if he agreed with senator john mccain who said that barack obama was a patriot. this was in response to charges that barack obama's tax plan was socialism. perry said that he was proud to say that barack obama was a socialist. pretty remarkable statement by the governor of texas.

we decided we would fact check that and look at barack obama's policies that you could call socialism. we talked to some conservative economists and said, you know his policies. would you consider them socialism? we concluded that it is a ridiculous claim. host: let's show the folks at home what he said. clip: we have a president that is a socialist. i don't think the founding fathers wanted america to be a socialist country. somehow president obama reflects our founding fathers. he does not. he talks about having a more consuming and costly federal government. i'm a 10th amendment-believing governor.

i believe we need a president that pushes back to the states whether it is how to deliver education or health care or how to do our environmental regulations. the states will do a better job than a one size fits all washington, d.c., led by this president. guest: we did give it any pants on fire. conservative economists said there are policies that they disagree with and policies that they think expand the reach of government. it is falls to call that socialism -- it is false to call that socialism. it is important to check these things and to help people make sense of this. this is a claim that has been repeated over and over again.

it is important for politifact to assess these things. host: our first call is from fort lauderdale, florida on the democrat line. caller: yes. whatstion i'm thinking -- percentage of jobs in the country does the government actually create? all the jobs, doing the work on the roads and the railways. i know that there are a 100 million contract. and a lot of the jobs around military bases that are private

jobs -- a lot of jobs around military bases. guest: you bet. i do not know the overall figure. as the economic stimulus money governmentemi mix of jobs credit versus private sector jobs changed and there were some months when there were not any private-sector jobs created and nearly all of the jobs were government-funded jobs. that has now changed in the past few months. the private sector is create a lot of jobs. i do not know the overall numbers. host: san diego, california, republican line. caller: i find it interesting you're doing this topic on the

republicans. have you done that before? guest: you bet. i have been on "washington journal" a dozen times and talked about president obama. we talked about is campaigns and we do the same kind of research we do for truth-o-meter items. you can go to our web page. we have checked a couple of claims from an ad that president obama put up on the night of the iowa caucuses last week. we have checked president obama more than anybody, more than330 330 times. we checked democrats and republicans.

there were seven major republican candidates that we are following. that is where our emphasis has been lately, but we also check democrats. host: newt gingrich was talking about the epa. guest: we have a great partnership with two newspapers in new hampshire and new hampshire public radio. the claim was that when asked about a landfill in nashua that the epa was confused and so we checked that. the reporter looked into that and talk to a colleague who had researched this and written an article about that. we determine that gingrich had accurate, that there was confusion about this on the part of the city of nashua. they were not familiar with the

fact that this landfill was listed on an epa list of sites. we gave gingrich eight mostly true on our truth meter -- we gave gingrich a mostly true. caller: the line about medicare. he wants to give vouchers to buy medicare. they will tell you it is a scary prospect. that would end medicare as we know it. guest: we got criticism about our lie of the year. for the past three years, politifact has awarded a lie of the year.

we select the most significant falsehood. the first one was the claim that democratic health care law had death panels. the second year it was acclaimed by many republicans that the health care law was the government takeover of health care. we got criticism from republicans. we have done criticism from democrats because we shows the claim by democrats that the ryan plan would end medicare. the ryan plan does not end medicare. it protect medicare for people who are now 55 and older. it does change medicare and it

does go to a privatized system using what you could describe as vouchers. it is not accurate to say it ends medicare. they told us this was a scare tactic aimed at seniors, something that democrats have used over the years. this has been a successful strategy for the democrats. i have to disagree that this was not a significant fall sold last year and so we chose it as our lie of the year. clip: i just talked about -- this is an anti socialist idea in health care.

we also structured the medicare part d benefit as a way to try to transition medicare. we did not pay for it. that was a mistake. host: there would give seniors the same benefits and that was rated as mostly false. guest: this is a popular talking point that we've heard from gop leaders. they have tried to say we will not be special anymore in congress. the health care will be available to all seniors and it is not a perfect comparison. there are some similarities. would rely onan standards set by the office of personnel management.

there are some differences. by the best estimates, it would not keep pace with rising costs in health care, and the premium support will not be as generous as they are for those in congress so we raided that mostly false. caller: i believe the republicans do not empathize with average americans. the moderator on sunday asked jon huntsman and ron paul if they would support heating oil subsidies for people who cannot afford to pay for oil this winter? jon huntsman never addressed the immediate needs of the people this winter. he talked about drilling for oil.

this is typical. republicans make political points. it is still about big business and not average americans. guest: i watched that debate and that was the first time we heard the low-income heating assistance program discussed in the primaries. that might be the last time for a while given the next primary in south carolina and florida. we have not done any fact checks on that. host: are the trends during this cycle? guest: we have an iphone app and has a truth index. it abrogates the average from all the states and it went up in

the last week and was above zero, which means the average was more truth than false. i think that is a function of what happens in the final days of a campaign. the tv ads tend to go positive. we found a lot of them are mostly true. that is one sort of micro trend. another or the super pacs and what they have done in these big advertising buys that took place at the last minute in iowa and they are enabling supporters of a candidate to basically work around the standards that have put limitations on contributions to candidate campaigns. but even those ads, we found a

number of half true complaints. host: supporting newt gingrich. guest: we will be looking to fact check that. we've had some requests about a claim that mitt romney has stated about how many jobs were created and the number of net new job, and i expect the pro- gingrich commercial will be critical of that. one thing we do at politifact is we define political speech broadly. we don't just fact check things like that. we checked e-mails, web page

statements by candidates, we checked with videos, any place where there's a political message, we will fact check it. host: barbara jean from georgia. caller: he said obama is not a socialist. he is talking to joe the plumber and said -- imean meant to distribute the wealth. we already paid taxes. i think he is a socialist. guest: i appreciate your opinion. let me put the joy of the plumber conversation in perspective -- joe the plumber. senator obama talked about redistributing the wealth.

joe the plumber said what obama would do it is practiced socialism and that led to sarah palin's comment about that. they were talking about a fundamental concept that goes back to abraham lincoln and that is a progressive tax system. it redistributes the wealth. you charged higher rates on wealthier taxpayers. it is fair to say you are redistributing the wealth. is that socialism? i don't think any economists we talked to yesterday would call that socialism. that is a progressive tax system. two very different things. that doesn't mean they want

government to take over the economy. host: jon huntsman -- he talked about simpson-bowles and one from -- you rated that false. guest: this is one we heard before. the simpson-bowles commission was supposed to come up with a plan to reduce the deficit. there are frustrations if you talk to members of the commission. they say they wish president obama and the congress would have done more. there are a fair number of examples of things that the simpson-bowles commission recommended that ended up in obama's budget. we rated debt falls on our

truth-o-meter -- we rated that false. caller: i have two questions. have you look into governor romney's tax returns? president obama -- his tax records. to you believe obama suspended the constitution on new year's eve because he put us under martial law? ron paul seems to be the only one concerned about this. guest: let me start with -- the first part how to do with -- host: college records of the president. guest: let's start with mitt romney's tax returns. he has not released them.

we did a fat check about a month ago about this and the question was, is it customary for presidential candidates to release their tax returns? we looked at all the major candidates going back for 20 or 30 years and most had released their tax returns. you're correct he is hiding them. perhaps at some point the romney campaign will release them. as for obama's college records, i'm not sure that will yield a lot of useful data for anybody. you can look at my college records and i'm not sure what that will show except i could have done better in american history. we need to focus on the policies of this president and that is what we do in the case of

politifact. host: you looked at an ad by the president about promises made and ckept. clip: i will be a president who ends the tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. ♪ i will be a president who harnesses -- farmers and scientists and entrepreneurs to free this nation from the tyranny of oil once and for all. host: when you look at the website for the statements about the historic fuel efficiency standards, you can read it --

guest: these are classic half true ratings. we define a hampshire as something that is partially accurate but leaves out important information. basically three parts. historic efficiency standards -- standards, yes. the efficiency standards are higher than ever. would they lower costs at the pump? yes, conceivably they will. but the issue is that they will actually force the manufacturers to make cars that cost more money. that is an important caveat. people would pay more on the front and to buy the car but the fuel would theoretically be less expensive. the final part -- reduce dependence on foreign oil. unproven. it depends, of course, on consumption and really the greater market forces, how many domestic sources of oil there

are. all in all, a classic half- truths' for us. host: dee on the democrats' line. thank you for waiting. caller: a couple of statements. this idea about wealth redistribution is not just about wealthy to pour, it is also -- one publicly traded companies and private companies profit from war in afghanistan and iraq, that is a redistribution of wealth from the taxpayers to stockholders and owners and those businesses. secondly, this claim that rick perry makes about the obama administration being socialist, it is kind of hypocritical given the fact that -- using the stimulus money to close the budget deficit. finally, mitt romney is making his claim that he created more jobs in the state banned the obama administration created was sort of ridiculous and that he

was ranked 47th in job creation. if the gas could address these issues i would appreciate it. guest: i will address a couple of those. sure. as it relates to really any job claimed that is made by president obama kumbaya mitt romney, by governor rick perry, you really have to look at the broader picture. texas did have tremendous growth in jobs. how much do you credit rick perry with that? we typically give his job claims a half truth rating, because while he did -- he is usually right about the numbers, how much do you credit the governor of a state with what is happening in both the state's economy and the overall economy? often the case of governor perry, he benefited from a really booming energy industry, and how much is that is his responsibility? the energy industry, of course, is driven by a much broader economic courses. in the case of president obama,

when we have looked at claims about job gains or losses in his administration, we have tried to, in talking to economists, is -- sift out, how much do you hold his economic policies response will? wheat ended up giving a lot of half true ratings -- we end up bin laden have a true ratings because you cannot pin this entire economy on one person. it is important for voters to keep in mind that there are a lot of forces, really, if the present or the governor had a lot of control over these things, things would be conceivably a lot better than where they are. host: florida. ron, republican line. dunedin. caller: dunedin, yes. it is hard to understand how you can say -- stand there and say your id be an unbiased when you are affiliated with the "st. pete times" mou is essentially

dead and going out of business and cannot sell advertising, and you perpetuate this half true, half live perception to the american people -- half lie. it is either true or ally. one of the other. not have this or the other. host: what is your question, caller? guest: i can comment on that. thanks for your opinions. i respect your criticisms. i've got to say, though, that the fundamental concept of the truth-o-meter recognizes something that is important, that statements are not black and white. it is not correct to say that things are either true or false. they are not. and i think the service politifact is doing is by reading things on a relative scale -- the truth is not black or white. it is shades of gray.

things can be technically true but have important caveat that really make it a half truth. that is the value of politifact. what we are doing is going solid research into these things and then putting out our rating. are you going to disagree with some of them? of course. when you are making judgment calls like this, inevitably there are going to be things people disagree with. one final point about my newspaper, "the tampa bay times," formally "the st. petersburg times," it is well regarded. i am sure there are lots of people will find reasons to criticize it. but it has an excellent reputation. it has the courage to agreed something like politifact and stick with it for four years. and i think our journalism speaks for itself. host: one other pants on fire was not romney --

guest: these are another one of the big, bold claims to try to win votes, the specter of socialism, that the growth in government spending is so great that we are on the cusp of a government-run economy, of the government taking over the means of production we did fact check this one. there was a great one done by lieu jacobson who specializes in economics. and he went to, i think mother heritage foundation that a global ratings of where countries stand for a free economy and the u.s. is way up near the top in having a free economy. it is just not accurate to say that. host: california. our independent line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i did a little bit of checking myself on the internet last night because of ron paul's comments on santorum being a

lobbyist. what i found out is that his records show that he earned $1.3 million between january 2010 from august of 2011. this was as a consultant. also, that he filed for those -- the campaign in june of 2011. so, essentially, he is a lobbyist running for president, it seems, according to the fact that i checked. guest: that is a really good question. in fact, we adjust that several times. for instance, president obama has said his campaign does not accept any money from lobbyists. that is technically true. what the obama campaign does is

not accept -- it runs contributions against a list of federally registered lobbyists and if there are any matches they reject the money and send the check back. but the part that makes the claims half truth is that in washington these days, you don't have to register as a lobbyist to be involved in lobbying. i think you make a great point about that, about whether it is senator santorum or others, once they leave public life they will often go to work for a firm that those lobbying, one gauge in strategy sessions, but will not actually register as a lobbyist. we have typically given claims that people are lobbyists and those circumstances a half true rating. it is true they are not registered as a lobbyist but they are involved in the lobbying business. host: new york city. good morning. john.

democrats' line. caller: two things that bother me. i have heard for a long time republicans saying that what the first two years of barack obama's presidency, he had the congress and could do whatever he wanted. right? is it true that there was a 60- vote threshold for anything to get past and they're actually was 58 democrats and two independents, one of which was joe lieberman who campaigned for mccain. so, that is not really true that he could do anything because there were also take independents there, not 60 democrats. and one other thing that bothers me is something rick santorum said yesterday. he said that this administration does not allow people to talk about abstinence. my understanding is that this

administration does not allow groups to talk about abstinence only. guest: i do not think we have done a fact check on the question about abstinence programs. i can address your question about the majority in congress. yes, you are correct, when president obama took office, democrats had a majority in both houses of congress and did, cut the two independents, have enough -- with the two independents, they had enough margin in the senate to defeat a filibuster under most circumstances. q. but, of course, that all changed in the special election after senator kennedy died and scott brown was elected in massachusetts. that was the point at which the democrats lost that 60-vote margin in the senate, as i recall.

you know, even as, i think governors and presidents will tell you, having a numerical majority of control in a state legislature or congress is no guarantee you will pass everything you want, even if all of those people are from your party. the governors and presidents still have to work hard to try to get support for their programs because legislators are independent and they want to come to their own conclusions and in some cases create their own programs. host: michigan. republican line. caller: good morning. mr. bill adair, i got a question for you, but before i get to that, did you vote for obama? guest: i did this every time i am on c-span. -- get this every time i am on c-span. in journalism we respect the sanctity and privacy of the voting booth but -- so we do not typically reveal who we voted

for. in keeping with that, my newspaper has a policy that we are free to vote in the privacy of the voting booth and not have to disclose that. host: do you have a follow-up? caller: so, anyway, what i really wanted to get to was the basis of the is the tax increases that obama has been jumping all over, talking about and playing this game, but taxing the rich and so on. i thought that taxes basically put was a revenue stream from the taxpayers of america to help fund the government. and it is all about tax revenue. in my recollection, i think the largest tax revenue day for america was back in june of 2007. if i am not mistaken, i think the largest single day that washington collected taxes was

up around $86 billion in one day. so, that is the question -- is that a fact check? i cannot hear anybody talking about it. guest: i am not sure the significance of singling out one day. clearly there were points in our past, because of the economy, because of tax rates, that we had a higher amount of tax revenue than we have today. and i think obviously the predicament we are in in trying to balance the federal budget and trying to pay down the national debt. we have done many fat checks, and i encourage you to go to politifact.com and look under the subject tabs in taxes than you can see a lot of the fact check we have done. host: you also have a report card on each candidate. guest: i think it is a really

valuable feature. a tally of how many true, half- true, false, pants on fire ratings each candidate has gotten. wanting to see the broad trends of how we have rated the candidates. it is not scientific. we are not social scientists. this is a tally of our journalistic work but it is valuable genes -- for example, when congresswoman bachmann dropped out, a lot noted her to record on political -- politifact was a lot of false and pants on fire. host: tom, independent line. caller: hi, bill. one of the biggest lies the republicans tell is this one -- they say that the government does not create private sector jobs. i want them to tell that to all of the people in the private sector that make the bombs, bullets, the tanks, planes, the guys that deliver paper clips and papers and computers to all of the government offices.

guest: an interesting point. indeed, one of the claims that republicans have often made is that the economic stimulus created zero jobs. that is something we have rated pants on fire. that, indeed, the economic stimulus created many jobs. you can have a legitimate debate about whether it is enough but it is just ridiculous with false to say it did not create jobs. as you know, much of the government money went to the private sector. even one of our reporters found a guy who had been employed in a job created by the economic stimulus. just as an example of the many people whose jobs were funded by the stimulus. host: after new hampshire, where does politifact go? guest: we will change the focus to south carolina and florida and will really be looking at the claims the candidates are making their, both in tv ads and in their some speeches, because we are based in florida and have

a staff in washington but we also have a staff in florida. we will be particularly focused on that and looking ahead we will be staying the primary all the way through. and the beauty of our work is it is all collected, so the tally is just keep compounding and the work is all available. so, if you want to look something up like it a stimulus create jobs or can any of these other claims you can go to our website and look it up. host: politifact.com is the website. bill adair serves as the editor. thanks a lot. coming up, we will hear from senator rand paul about his father's campaign for the presidency. first, back to new hampshire. last hour, you heard from a radio talk-show host. first -- now another one from the international press. >> there are about 30-45 radio stations here, national talk show radio hosts like the reverend al sharpton, tom hartman, an action packed two

rooms. political commentators like mike barnacle, a familiar face to "morning joe." we spoke earlier to a new hampshire radio talk-show host. we have now with as george hook, with irish radio and television. a talk-show host for news talk radio in ireland, the show is called "the right hook." you are also considered the john madden on irish tv. you call rugby games. >> on the weekend. like -- only difference is i am prepared to go on an airplane. i don't need a bus. why i am here it is, remember, the irish read more newspapers than any other country on earth. so, the irish people, if you go

into an irish pub and you say who is in the ring -- running for the republican nomination, some guy sipping a pint of guinness will be able to tell you in detail. so, that is why i am here. four years ago we covered all the way through to the inauguration of obama. we covered the democratic race. this year is the republican race. we do super tuesday, and then we go to tampa for the convention, then d.c. for the elections and the inauguration. i think people are interested. europe is interested. europe is probably more interested now than the marshall plan after world war ii, because it is the american economy -- if the american economy does not pick up, then europe does not pick up. the great phrase that if america sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold, is more true now than at any time maybe in

europe's history. so, we need a president that understands economics, i think. europe does. the other thing about europe is, we are all democrats. there are no republicans in europe. >> even in ireland? >> ireland, if the presidential elections would -- were to iris voters, obama would win 99%, where essentially what you call a tax-and-spend liberals -- we believe in free health care, free education, all the kinds of things the republicans think is just deadly dangerous economics. >> your show is called "right hook." conservative, liberal? >> i would the -- if rush limbaugh and i were in the ring, it would not go 15 rounds, going down after one to a right hook. the interesting thing, talk

radio in america is primarily -- primarily right wing republican and talk radio in ireland is liberal and left. wttk ballston comes to my program on a thursday and people think that he has dropped out of the sky in a spaceship, such is his political views. >> what do your listeners want you to ask? what questions they ask of you about the primary process and the campaign -- 2012 campaign? >> of course, our presidential election has just ended -- what mitt romney spend in iowa, would have paid for the presidential campaign of all seven candidates. we do not spend as much money, and not take as long. but what the irish are interested in, we cannot understand america's reluctance to embrace a global warming. we cannot understand america's reluctance, as they did half a

century ago, to think they can live in a bubble outside of europe. europe and america are inextricably linked. what irish people at home are worried about is so many of these republican candidates, in ireland, indeed in europe, would be seen as cranks. people like michele bachmann and rick santorum, and newt gingrich -- we find it extraordinary that newt gingrich trying to impeach clinton for adultery and he is a serial adulterant. -- inadulterer. we are astonished he is still in the race. i think we are concerned that the republicans might put up a strange candidate. if you were to ask me today, does ireland -- who does ireland one, mitt romney. they want a centrist. that in the unlikely event that he beats obama, you've got a

centrist. we would be terrified, we would be quaking in our beds, in fact, we would be more worried about newt gingrich than we were worried about saddam hussein. >> what about the other candidates in the field? jon huntsman is coming back in the polls here in new hampshire. >> actually, the real preferred candidate in ireland interestingly is ron paul, who will not make it. but he talks the language that irish people actually like. for us, jon huntsman is a centrist, but we just cannot think it will make it so therefore it is not terribly important. the candidate and the center is clearly going to mitt romney and i think he will win here. most of the people around here on radio roll think romney will win. >> one last quick question. who would you like to interview and what we do like to ask them? >> interviewing newt gingrich and i would just like to say,

here in new hampshire, what some of the most on seasonable january and over 100 years, how can you not believe in global warming? >> george hook with a news talk radio show in ireland. >> thanks. host: a shot leading radio talk- show row. now we are back in new hampshire. we go to manchester to be joined by our next guest, senator rand paul, who is -- whose father, ron paul. in the "politico" you say independents could be the key to your father winning in new hampshire. guest: in iowa we double the independent both from 2008 and ron paul won its three-one. when you pull young people and independents, ron paul does the best in that category. new hampshire is unique in the sense that independent can

become republican that day and vote in the primary. so, our best chance for victory would be a large independent turnout. host: of the suffolk university -- the suffolk university has ron paul a 20%, following mitt romney of 33%. guest: it has been as high as a 20-point lead. i think it is narrowing. and i think a lot of times in new hampshire, if you are sawbuck -- solidly in second and the candidates blow you to not seem to have much chance, people will gravitate to the second- place finisher to try to topple the front runner. we could get a surprise. we are also hoping for a big snowstorm. there are a lot of things in order to win. but we do have a solid second place in the polls. host: our guests with us until about 9:45 a.m. or so to take your calls about ron paul's

campaign. if you would like to ask questions -- what do you make of the statements about your father's sense of foreign-policy? guest: his foreign-policy views are different but we are electing a commander in chief who will be in charge of the world's largest nuclear arsenal. and i think what you want is somebody who is reluctant to use them, who is a believer in the checks and balances and the separation of power. what i mean by that is that some people now believe the president has an unlimited power to commit troops to war or to send a nation to war. that is not what our founding fathers wanted. our founding fathers gave the power to declare war to congress.

ron paul is one of the few candidates, republican or democrat, who talks about these checks and balances and we should not be in a rush to go to war. that sometimes even when a country does something we did not like and we think it is something that destabilizes a situation, sometimes containment could be a strategy in replace of war or bank instead. host: the first call its from staten island. catherine is on the independent line. go ahead. caller: good morning. good morning, mr. paul. you are the best congressman we have. i am an independent. and i follow your father last time running. he is the best we can get. that is what america needs right now. and people listen. don't be -- just go and vote for ron paul. host: do you have a specific question? caller: he has got to win.

host: the next call is terrible, wisconsin. wayne on the republican line. -- carol bubp, wisconsin. wayne left us. this is from "the new hampshire union leader." this is about your father -- guest: i think that misunderstand my father. his position on national defense is under the constitution, one of the primary responsibilities of the federal government is not the most responsibility -- the most response below the is on national defense. the government is doing a lot of things it is not supposed to be doing, as a consequence we are borrowing millions of dollars per second. piquant have a strong military,

but in doing so we would have to say we do not have an unlimited checkbook, that every dollar spent on the military is not wise or sacred and you can have a strong national defense but not have unlimited expenditures. we have doubled the military budget from 2001 until today. ultimately the compromise, it if we will ever get our fiscal nightmare and fiscal house in order, is really going to be that conservatives will have to acknowledge that some military spending will have to be reduced, and liberals will have to acknowledge that some domestic spending will. when liberals and conservatives come together, then we will finally tackle the debt crisis that we are currently in the midst of. host: to that point, we have a viewer off of twitter who will ask specifically how will your dad get the party and democrats to work together? guest: i think that is alternately how you will get them to work together, is you have to say that what i think is my pet projects, that i am

willing to discuss with the other side. i think republicans typically say i am not looking at military spending and will not cut any. that unwillingness to talk to democrats leads to an impasse. democrats say to the republicans, i am not willing to compromise on any welfare or domestic spending. or i am not willing to compromise and fix entitlements. we can fix entitlements tomorrow. social security is $6 trillion sure, and i have a bill that i introduced to gradually raise the age of eligibility to all the younger people, and you means test the benefits, and you can make so security sound for 75 years. but people have to get together and talk. i talk every day to democrats in the senate and i have yet to find one willing to do entitlement reform. they all say, if you increase taxes, we will do entitlement reform. why does there have to be horse trading? why can't we just fix the entitlements because they are broken? host: glenn, independent line

for senator rand paul. caller: this is the land. thank you for your time. i would like ask you to check how toiou's had been put -- how many iou's have been put and social security since 2006, when the democrats ran the house and senate. one other thing, i would like to ask about how the dream act could be constitutional when these people do not even belong in the united states? they are getting welfare as soon as their baby is born here, and how much money it is that costing the american citizen? thank you for your time, sir. host: let's talk -- start with immigration. i did not think we should encourage illegal immigration, -- do not think we should encourage illegal immigration so providing benefits or anything for free if you cross the border -- if we say you can get

free college education and get citizenship if you come here illegally or join the military, half of mexico would come to the united states and join our military. i do not think it will work. we are already bankrupt. we cannot afford to have 10 million mexicans come across the border illegally. with regard -- what was the first question again, pedro? host: you know, i missed it, i apologize. if i could, tell us a little bit about your father's plan as far as the rest of the day. what are you specifically looking for in south carolina? guest: i think what we want to do is do the best we can hear it, make sure we separate ourselves from the second tier in the field. ian iowa there were clearly three front runners. in new hampshire, clearly two front runners. and i think it becomes more of a two-way race. one way it becomes a big-race and softer line and beyond is there are only two candidates on

the ballot in a lot of states. virginia is a big state -- ron paul is the only one with an extensive national network and campaign structure. many of the others are on such a shoestring budget that they live from day to day. really, after new hampshire, it becomes a two-man race and we will see how we do. some of it depends on how narrow the gap is, whether we become close to mitt romney, or would pull an upset and the whole world changes if we pull an upset. host: your finances to keep it going? guest: pretty good. the last quarter we raised $13 million. i think we have 150,000 donors. a lot of our donors are small dollar donors. we have people who send $13 every two weeks from their paycheck. so, having a large number of small donors is easier than if you have 500 people who can give you the maximum. once the 500 people give you the

maximum, they are done. one of the advantages president obama had is large numbers of people giving them money in smaller amounts. ron paul has some of that similarity. ron paul also excites the youth and the independents, so it is a new pool of money. sometimes independents had not given money in years because they were not happy with either side, and they see something that appeals to them in ron paul so he is able to tap into a brand new group of people who support his campaign. host: arizona. democrats' line. go ahead. caller: hello, mr. paul. i wanted to ask about how your father feels about social security, medicare, and the norm -- and minimum wage. and being unconstitutional. and how you think is health -- health care is a privilege and why you want to get rid of the epa and do you regulate the polluters in this country and just trust them not to pollute?

thank you. guest: the social security and entitlement question -- that was the previous caller's question we did not get to come on sort -- surplus. social security did run a surplus for maybe four years. -- 40 years. last year was the first time it started paying out to recipients more bark -- then it brings in. people need to understand and listen to this. the problems we have and social security is no one in particular spot. the republicans' fault, democrats' fault. the problem with social security and medicare is there are not very many young people and there are many old people. when social security started there were 50 workers for one retiree. now there are three workers for one retiree. we are headed toward a time when there is going to be one worker for one retiree. this is because we are all living longer lives, which is good, but it is also become the

-- because we have a lot -- had a lot of babies born after world war ii and the next generation had a much smaller population, and the trend continues. if you do not have as many workers paying for retirement benefits. some would say social security had all of the surplus, $2 trillion surplus. kind of true and kind of not true. social security has $2 trillion in assets. but these assets are called non- negotiable treasury bills. they are something that cannot be redeemed by selling it in the marketplace. it is only redeemed by taxing the next generation. so, we do have problems with social security and with medicare. some people want to simple pop -- simplified this and say republicans don't like old people, republicans don't like poor people. no, we do not like borrowing money and did not like the fact that the debt, when you run of a massive debt, and up hurting the elderly people, people on fixed income, and the working class. because when you run up a

massive debt, the way government pays for that is by printing money. when the government prints money, the value of the dollar shrinks. if you are getting a $600 social security check, if food rises by 20% and gas prices have doubled, you have trouble making it. so, people on fixed income and working class should be gravitating to the side of us who are concerned about the debt. it is not that we do not care about entitlement programs. i have been trying to fix them. i am looking for democrats to work with me to fix the entitlement programs. but what we are having in washington is the president has decided he does not want to work with us. his campaign messages -- republicans will not work with me, and so i am just going to have to campaign for reelection. that is not true. i have written on air force one with the president, i asked him repeatedly will you help us fix social security and medicare. they will not do it. they will not talk to us.

they will not come to capitol hill. and there are two or three simple things we can do to fix social security and medicare. i am announcing today, mr. president, too -- talk to us. if we could fix these problems and a bipartisan way. host: tennessee. brandon, republican line. guest: hello, mr. -- dr. paul, good morning. my question for you -- caller: hello, mr. paul, good morning. what is happening in the grass bubble and new hampshire, but more specifically, i am curious about what will happen to the liberty movement in the post- election? is there a plan to take another notch to grow the number of supporters for the more libertarian wing? i know about the campaign for liberty and i heard from young americans for liberty. i heard some comments from you. support for the liberty

movement has well more than doubled since 2008, to say the least. i would definitely like to see this trend continue, and by 2016, see another doubling of support. if this ideology continues to grow, this could change the entire american politics. so far, in a way, it already has. host: senator paul? guest: i would say that the libertarian conservative movement within the republican party is still a minority. we do not win battles in washington, even within our own caucus yet. but we are a growing minority in a sense that many people realize we are out of money. $1.50 trillion annual deficit, that just cutting domestic spending will not do it but we do need to reassess our military obligations around the world. now, they are not quite get

there at either end becoming libertarian conservatives but people are coming around. there are at least 10 or 15 u.s. senators who think we should not go to war without congress declaring it. that is good news. unfortunately there may still be 30 on the republican side who think the president can go to war without congressional authority. but we are gaining ground. host: nashville, tennessee. independent line. caller: one question on the military. and how your dad would respond. we have a man over in iran threatening the u.s. we all know. he is going to have nuclear power. he is going to use it -- maybe not directly toward the u.s.. hallwood your dad respond to this if he is elected president?

-- how would your dad respond to this? and my question for the american people around the world, watch as much c-span as you can and read commentaries and newspapers. stay away from the other news agencies. that is all i have. thank you. guest: apologize for the coughing. i have been under the weather. in the issue of iran, ron paul does not want them to have a nuclear weapon. he believes it they had in nuclear-weapons it would to stabilize the middle east. but if they do get a nuclear weapon, there is a question of how we deal with it. one question would be a pre- emptive war, trying to bomb their sites into disabling them. there are some questions of whether or not that could be militarily be done. there is some indication there sites are in over 20 different places. some in the midst of large cities. the second question is, could we possibly contain them.

we contain the soviet union which had 30,000 intercontinental ballistic missiles that could actually reach the united states. we contained pakistan, which has 100-200 nuclear weapons. and there is always a clear danger that pakistan could fall into an islamic fundamentalist governments. that would be a question we need to also be thinking about is, if pakistan falls under an islamic military government, would we attack pakistan that has made 100 nuclear weapons? some things are really impractical. the money we do not care, but maybe it means we need to work on containment -- that does not mean we do not care. some people say that is outside the mainstream. interestingly, if you read about foreign-policy, the three previous heads of the u.s. central command, high ranking u.s. generals -- including general at the staid and admiral fallon saying they have some

misgivings about an attack against iran and some unintended consequences might be worse. and within israel, opinion is not unified within israel. about three or four days ago, the head of the mossad, their intelligence agency, said we need to be careful about the finding the threat from iran as an existential threat to israel. is he saying this because he doesn't care? no. he is obviously someone and everyone in israel obviously cares about iran getting a nuclear weapon. they do not want him to g but if you define it as an existential threat, do we not trap ourselves into only one response -- cataclysmic war, all out preemptive war? iran is a large country. one, can we just bomb them into submission? does it mean sending troops into harm's way? what ron paul says is that

foreign policy is not always an either-or situation. foreign policy, also, under the constitution, is not unilaterally done by the president. if we were to declare war in iran -- and i am not suggesting it -- but if a bank it were to occur, it needs to be voted on by congress -- if it were to occur. that is where ron paul separates himself from most of the republicans and democrats, is that the present is not only i, i only do anything. the president shares power with congress and ron paul recognizes we cannot go to war without a formal declaration and that is what the constitution requires. host: the president recently released a strategy for cutting the defense budget. would your father employed a similar tactic in terms of cuts made and where those cuts would like? guest: i cannot go into the details as far as where the president's plan would make the cut. but what i can say is we try to separate out what is military

spending from what is defense spending. because what is in favor of national defence, we are all for, but there needs to the discussion about what money is spent in the military budget is actually required, necessary, or good for our national defense. i think the military budget has been doubled since 2001, and ultimately part of the compromise in order to get our fiscal house in order again, to reduce military spending, but we would do it without compromising national defense, always maintaining a strong, very highly technology -- technologically capable military, but it might mean germany would have to pay a little more for their defense, japan would have to pay more for their defense, south korea would have to pay more for their defense. we also need to quit sending foreign aid around the world. we borrow money from china and then we send money back to china in the form of foreign aid. it is crazy. 10 of the top countries that

hold u.s. debt that we will money to, we send foreign aid to. it is and saying what we are doing an ron paul is the only one really large -- who is changing all of this. host: one quick comments off of twitter -- guest: absolutely. just look at the pipeline. would react -- we rather import oil from canada rather than saudi arabia and the other countries that cannot like us. we need to expand trade for people in this hemisphere. i think probably 75% of our coastline is off limits so we -- we tell england to drill in the north sea and yet we do not drill off of our own coast. i do want to do it in a clean

fashion. our previous caller said republicans are not concerned about pollution. we want bp to the, if i have an accident, to pay for. but there are large parts of alaska that can be used for drilling, large parts of our coastline. natural gas, i think over time we will convert more and more to natural gas. we have to keep government out of the way to encourage production here and not trying to encourage production in foreign countries. >> if your father does not nomination is a third-party candidacy in possibility? guest: very unlikely. we are trying to win the republican nomination. he has always been republican and been elected as a republican. and we are right at the top. he keeps getting the question, i think, because he does not always answer it definitively. but i think it is hard to

conceive -- we are trying to win. we are still at the very top of the republican nomination. host: senator rand paul from kentucky, also campaigning for his father. thank you for your time, sir. live at 10:30 a.m., you can see representative ron paul from hollis, texas. for the remainder of the time, here is how you can weigh in. -- we will take calls and looked at

a number of things in the paper for the remainder of the time. new york. listened on the democrats' line. what would you have to say about the new hampshire primary as you are seeing it? caller: thank you for taking my call. i was going to speak to mr. paul about his father. i am a democrat but i have been watching republicans. i tried to stay respectful. i appreciate mr. paul's nonaggression attitude militarily. i think that is the way we have to go. diplomacy first, see how that works. you get the information. none of these people have all the information. -- not all the information that washington has right now. flying by the seat of their pants. the other issue is, a return to all that entitlement programs -- socialize, we are socialists.

why would you say to someone 58 years old with a heart condition -- they talk about medical insurance. i have no insurance. i do not qualify for state aid because i have to work and i did not earn enough for health insurance. i was hoping this president obama would be able to get through what he had so i have that possibility. the whole energy assistance program, will you tell a 70-year woman who lives on social security, we cannot help you because we are trying to do away with a social programs. host: jody, independent line. joey -- caller: my name is kelly, by the way. 1 and reference to the caller who was just there. i also did want to ask rand paul, is social security

entitlements. most supporters to not feel it is an entitlement because people pay into it. ron paul has said many times -- candy crowley on a cnn interview he intends not to cut social security and understands the need and one of the few people who stuck up for this thing all along. she needs to look a little bit deeper into his policies on that as far as wanting to cut these programs. as far as paying for that type of thing, she says by cutting the military -- allowing for these programs to continue. i wanted rand paul to talk a little bit more about the fact of allowing the younger people to opt into a program that would allow them to put their money privately. he also does talk about the

corporate welfare, of which none of the other candidates or obama talked about, president obama. people do not understand ron paul's position. people think he will sit there idly and wait until somebody attacks america until the does anything, like our intelligence agencies and military will not do nothing or the navy will be sitting around waiting for something to add. in iran, like the other caller talked about, if iran attacked as i believe ron paul understands what the president can do and will respond without waiting for congress to say yes. host: in "the washington post."

also, another story -- i am sorry. taking a look at secretary geithner, whose asia trip will focus on iran as well. this from the pages of "the wall street journal," setting the secretary wanted to asia to seek support from china and japan for boosting financial pressure against iran. lisa from alabama. go ahead, please. republican line. caller: i am a county coordinator for the alabama campaign for liberty. and ron paul in 2008 was the only candidate that really reflected my views. i am a conservative republican,

pro life, but i have questions as to why our party was consistently wanting to go to war. ron paul is the -- for all of us who really want peace. and i can tell you how he brings us together. the gentleman who called prior to me from minnesota, the democrat, he totally expresses my feelings about this. we do not need to be the policeman of the world. we need to take care of ourselves. we need to get back within the four corners of our constitution. just like ron paul said on the debates -- the president is not a king. if the military personnel believes that there is a threat, it should be brought to the president, he should look at it, he should bring it before congress, and the house of representatives is our local boy -- local voice in washington. host: a couple of events we are

covering live, besides ron paul at 10:30 a.m., at noon, mitt romney discussing jobs and economy from hudson, new hampshire, at a metal fabricating company. and then tonight at 9:00 p.m., jon huntsman holdings restoring trust campaign at the exeter town hall in new hampshire. that will take place starting at 7:00. both of those you can see live on c-span. and you can make use of the video library as well. california, a democrat. caller: i am calling from a great democratic. in california and i feel ron paul is the most electable because it's the independent and some democratic support. -- he gets the independent and some democratic support. if they agree with him on things like ndaa and undeclared wars. and ron paul -- agreeing with the message on libya and -- liberty and not just picking

with the party line. host: sean, are you there? go ahead. caller: i just wanted to comments on the media coverage that ron paul has. he does not get too much on the other stations. but on c-span, he does, and i wanted to thank you all for giving him good coverage because all my friends talk about him all the time. but the news never talked about him. i just wanted to thank you all for that. host: we tried to cover all the candidates equally. and again, i refer you to the video library because, as i understand, people have to go to work and have other commitments -- but there are what we have covered when it comes to the candidates and you can take advantage of it, c-span.org, and looked through it for yourself. connecticut, you are next. chris, republican line. caller: i just wanted to say, ron paul is definitely the man that this country needs.

i would, however, like to see him address something that i think a lot of the public needs, and that is some of the things he wants to do is so different from what anybody has ever heard of. getting rid of five major federal departments, including the somewhat abusive irs, is different. they need to hear a little more specifics, such as, where is the money going to come from. i know if we get rid of all the federal agencies, it reduces federal expense, getting rid of the irs, to -- where is the federal government giving us the money? some details into that might be helpful. thank you for all of your work and ron paul is the man. host: cbs news, "youth vote key."

it goes on to talk about the youth vote in new hampshire. chuck grassley, you may have seen in the iowa caucus coverage, has an op-ed piece and "usa today" talking about recess appointments. you can read more in the pages of "usa today." one more call. for lauderdale. mark, independent line. caller: i am glad i got in before the show ended.

i want to call and it's all the people praising ron paul. i think they are making a big mistake. host: you are there. go ahead. caller: i am a lone voice calling in amidst all this praise of ron paul. i understand the anti-war stance, anti-internationalism. i agree with that myself. and i certainly agree with keeping the government out of my personal life spans. but some of his other stances are just so completely dangerous, a la, that there should be no civil rights legislation, that it is interfering with states' rights. lastly, rand paul, you asked him about his father for the third party, running as a third-party candidate and he said no, it would not be, that ron paul never -- never ran as anything but republican.

that is an outright lie. he ran as president as an independent -- excuse me, as a libertarian, back in the late 1980's or bring the early 1990's. these guys are really not to be trusted any more than any other politician. host: representative paul will be alive today at 10:30 a.m. on c-span. you can see him there and there will be evans later on with mitt romney and jon huntsman. they take place at 12:00 p.m. at 7:00 p.m. respectively. tomorrow is the day in new hampshire. stay tuned to c-span not only for the candidates but our coverage of the new hampshire primary. a new "washington journal" comes your way at 7:00. we will see you then. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012]