you have seen figures being drawn back. it's amazing technology. but for five years, i earmarked against them to keep it open because it will transform wound care for men and women in uniform. after five years, the army said it was really good stuff, and then two weeks ago, "newshour" ran a 20 minute program about how transformative this has been for the men and women in uniform. i understand the concern with earmarks, but every agency does not always get it right, and sometimes members of congress are trying to spend more money or raise money because they have taken the time to learn what the right thing is, go out and advocate for it, and they may know a little bit more about it than the bureaucrats. earmarks have been abused over the last few years and guys

like jim demint and i have said we should put an end to it. they are not always bad. we have to understand that abuse does not mean that everybody abused it. i'm very proud of the things we have done. go ahead and continue without me. look at our record. look at the men and women who have been saved as a result of what we have done. i'm very proud of the fact that we did it. [applause] >> there are a number of mothers with children of military age here, and you talked about the challenges, and i want to follow up on this question about afghanistan. debtyou have seven kids. i ask both of you, how would you feel if that was your child going over there? are you prepared to send your

children to take down iran before they launch a nuclear weapon? >> to take down iran? no. that has never been something i have put on the table. to take out their capabilities, as the israelis did in syria with their reactor and iraq, and their reactor, that is a very different thing than a full- scale invasion. i will not talk about that, because it's not in the playbook, anywhere in the playbook. that's not something we should engage in. we should stop the radical theocracy that has mal intent, not just for israel but for our allies in the region, most of whom are sunni muslims, and not just for the west, with their projection of terror. which they have already done

against the united states and our allies. this is a country that, with a nuclear weapon, would be the greatest threat to peace and security this world has seen in a very, very long time. they are driven by a theology that believes in conquest. i know barack obama says it's just a little country in the middle east, but it's a very wealthy one with a lot of oil and gas and they can buy off- the-shelf technology and develop themselves with nuclear weapons, build the technology to deliver it, and they have legions of terrorists. in central and south america, president ahmadinejad spent time in venezuela with hugo chavez talking about launch pads. there are training camps of jihadists sponsored by the terrorists. this is not a problem halfway across the world that we do not need to worry about. they are aligning with others

and they want to see the u.s. domination, if you will, or influence, to wane and they will do whatever they can to make that happen to show that they are the next one on the block. if we do not stop them from doing this, we will be preventing a war we have never seen the likes of before in this country. it is not a matter of taking out this regime, not a matter of a pre-emptive war, but a matter of taking out the nuclear capability that will change the face of our country. >> you would not have a problem with your son flying in that plane that drops the bomb and there will be people on the ground trying to take him down? >> i would be very proud of my son for serving my nation, as a mother. [applause] >> we have two boys, one just graduated from high school, the

other in high school. one of the considerations they're looking at is potentially doing some kind of military service. i have been nothing but encouraging. is a great weight honor and serve your country. -- it is a great way to honor and serve your country. >> which branch? >> i will not get into that. [laughter] >> let's take another mom question. >> thank you for being a home schooling family. it would be great to have one in the white house. i am the mother of two boys who are perfectly normal, and our daughter was born with emmanuel syndrome, similar to the chromosomal issue your daughter has. i'm curious as to what you think the government's role should be in the role of special needsit's complicated. she had surgery at duke last week. there are a lot of needs to be considered. what do you think the

government should be doing to help parents? >> i'm jumping in here, but feel free to fill in. our feeling, from our perspective, is that we want to do everything we can to care for our child to the extent that we can do so. we not only feel an obligation to, but we want to do it. we believe that those are resources, and i cannot imagine how to spend them any better than on this beautiful child that is the center of our life and we love more than life itself. [applause] to me, that is a good expenditure of resources. obviously, some people are not in that position. one of the reasons i'm concerned about obamacare and government-run health care is that we tend to hear about the "cost effectiveness" research. you hear about the "proper utilization" of resources. when i hear things like that,

as the dad of a special needs child, the red flags go up. that means my child has to "earn" care, "be worthy" of care, be a "good investment." how do you look at my daughter? do you look at her as we do, which is a transformative figure in our family and to everyone who has ever met her? >> she's perfect. i'm sure you feel the same. >> do you look at her as the gift she is to everyone she touches? it's amazing. yet, to many in the world, you would ask why do anything? we were told by many professionals to let her go, that she's not worth fighting for, because she would not be able to "do" anything. >> i'm sure there are some physicians who love and support

your little girl. we'll pray for her. what's her name? >> hermione. emmanuel is the syndrome. >> we will hope she does really well. it's interesting how they categorize certain diagnoses. "lethal diagnosis, incompatible with life." they need to stop using those words. and we are really on a mission now to help change the wording and how they give these diagnoses the parents. their mantra is to give the child a chance, see what the issues are, love and support the families. there's no doubt. we feel, as i'm sure you do, that it is an honor to take care of our little bella.

she's an angel of heaven. .s is your little girl even she's worth the dignity of every other child. you may have to turn into a mama bear to get the care -- and i'm sure we could talk for hours. she has a happy, beautiful life. she is so joyful. initially, it was a challenge just getting the basic care. >> to answer your question more directly, to the extent that the parents can and should provide, that they can't, anytime there are extraordinary costs associated with a disorder, it should be socialized in a high risk pool at a state level, because of the instability of -- because of the disability of medicaid,

something will provide for that. appropriate way for society to affirm the dignity -- the dignity. [applause] >> the senator described what he went through in a very emotional way. can you, as his wife, talk to us briefly about what he went through and about how you and he dealt with the challenges of that child? it's very powerful. i would like to now hear from the mom. >> we got the diagnosis four days after her birth. it was a really hard time. we were not expecting it. we had lost a baby, so i was thinking about was how i could not go through it again. i was very angry and i went into a deep, dark hole for 10 days.

i was never going to leave my faith. it was trying. i just kept asking why. she was in the nicu. when i let go of the "why" there was a peace in me. don is in charge. -- god is in charge. that beautiful child was here for a purpose. i loved her with my heart and soul. she is a part of our family and we will love her and take care of her just like any of our kids. initially, he held back because he needed to beat the strong guy holding us all together. it was a very hard time. we were going to love her and take care of her. rick was a little different. held back a little bit because he had to be the rock, strong guy, holding us together. i was truly falling apart. for any of you moms who have been through this, you know the

pain and the challenge it could be. what we did -- you know, we are a very close family. we just sort of came together and dealt with it issue by issue. but over all, it was gone to be we will love and support bella and fight for life. when certain things would happen i would call the doctor on it or the nurse. and again, we have wonderful physicians and nurses and our lives. who will love like crazy, because they walked this journey with us. but there were some along the way, too, where it was shocking what we saw what they're not treating bella with dignity and respect and that is something i always insisted on as a mother, she be treated with the same dignity and respect as any other child and it was not alwayswe were all initially go right through a tough time. hospice care -- and strange that it is, you bring a baby home and you are going to hospice care, which is strange for us.

we got home from the nicu and we both said, we want to focus on bella's life. our children are so dear. they love her like crazy. we came home and they had a big sign, welcome home bella, happy birthday. each day they made a number and for two years the sign hung on the family room and the change did every day, every week, and every month. them a party every day for a>> a party every day for a while. then it was every week and then confident enough to do every month. it is just sort of the steps you take. >> a lot of hospitalizations the first year. short, bella is an amazing girl. if she is 3 and have and nobody thought she would live for three hours and she is joyful and happy. the cutest thing. i have all these pictures in my mind as a mother -- one day i

was in my room and my two little boys peter and patrick were playing cards and they had bella in her little chair right there with them, little cards in front, and monday were playing piano, she is they're playing with them and in the kitchen -- would love to cook and bake and it is very much the heart of our home. she is right there and she is a great blessing. >> she loves her dad alive. [laughter] >> she has him wrapped around her little finger. she just melts -- >> she really loves me, too. and i love you brought your kids on the campaign trail. you said it is almost like a living school lesson. how are you structuring that? >> our children, who are in school -- they allow them to have two weeks off. and they are very good keeping up with their assignments. not really. >> you know you are on camera.

>> their assignments are going to the campaign office making phone calls. >> hands-on learning. looking at the caucus state, primaries, the whole journey, how presidents are elected -- history and geography. it has been a lot of fun and it has been a great education. >> they have done a great job. my daughter elizabeth spent six weeks in south carolina traveling. my son john, a week and have in new hampshire and a couple of weeks in iowa. that was last semester. the semester we gathered everyone together and decided to spend time and come down to south carolina and plan our flags down here. they have been a boost and encouragement to me, being with us. it can be a lonely traveled day after day on the road, not seeing your kids. >> i think it is really need to watch these children. you always want to raise your

kids with a spirit of service. the kids have done a lot of mission work and clothing and food drives, but they are being raised with a sense that life is not about them but it is about serving our lord, making the world a better place, it is about going out of your comfort zone and giving to make the world a better place. this is hard work. the kids are working hard but they know this is to make our country a better country. pretty neat. >> let's take another question from a mom now. >> good afternoon senator and mrs. santorum. i live in greenville, south carolina. i have supported the senator since he announced his exploratory committee. >> thank you. >> my youngest son is gay. i debated a long time how to handle my support of you because what he has been hearing -- rick santorum hates gays.

interestingly, we had a short conversation and he said actually i did not have any problems with his stance on gay marriage because i do not believe in gay marriage. but i still have that sense of guilt because -- his friends react to what they hear. how do i deal with that? >> go right ahead if you want to jump in -- >> thank you for the question. you as a mother -- we all love our kids unconditionally, and as rick's wife, i have known him and loved him for 23 years. and i think it is very sad what gay activists have done. they have vilified him and it is so wrong. rick does not hate anyone. he loves them, but he has

simply -- what he has simply said it is marriage should not happen. but as far as hating, it is very unfortunate it has happened and a lot of it is backyard bullying where people come up to us and say something and we will ask them to give an example and they cannot even provide one example as to why they took the position they took. you can take it from here. >> karen is right. it is not an issue of not doing what i am called to do, which is to love everyone and accept everybody. this is a public policy difference. and i think the problem is some see the public policy difference as a personal assault. and because that i believe that marriage, which has existed before government existed, marriage existed from the very beginning of time -- the way we were meant to be, not just that, but it is i believe governments include marriage in

their laws is because we need to encourage what is best for mothers and fathers and children, which is for them to be together again to give every child of their birthright, which is to know and be loved by their mom and dad. and if we do not hold that up as something that society is for and encourage it and promote it, then we will get less of it, and we will be, in a sense, denying tilden what is best for them. we should not be a society that denies our children and our feature what is best for them. it is already rough enough out there. we need to affirm that people can have other relationships that are important and they can say that they are fine, but they cannot be what is essential for the future of our country. there are all sorts of the relationships -- relationships that people have and they are valuable, whether they are

cameras, friendship relationships or familial relationship. but that does not mean we should change the laws in order toe an atmosphere in where children and families are not being -- i looked at what we have seen in the country. i hear this a lot from those who are promoting same-sex marriage, that heterosexuals have messed up marriage and why are you picking on us. your answer is, you are right. that we have seen a decline in marriage in america and a decline -- just in the last 30 years, -- this has came out as of today -- 71% of people over the age of 18 being married in this country down to 51%. 5% drop in the last five years, which is the fastest drop ever. and you can't say that what is going on in the public and the culture does not affect marriage. it affects people's attitudes

toward marriage, their desire to marriage, what they see marriage is, and if it is not something that have an intrinsic value and worth, then you will get less of it. and so, i would agree that there were problems with a marriage before we had this debate, but this debate in my opinion is not helping. what we need to do is refocus on trying to promote men and women coming together and having those strong bonds, supporting men and women in marriage. in an example in my book "it takes a family." in one of my chapters i talk about a project and in chattanooga, tennessee. a city in east tennessee where they found out through the demographic research that was done, the senses, that they had, i think, the highest divorce rate in the state and one of the highest out-of- wedlock birthrates and the

highest single parenthood rate. they were amazed this to town in the smoky mountains would have this problem. the community fathers decided to business people, town fathers, as well as the churches, taint -- came together and started a nonprofit saying we will do something to reinstalled marriage, to help father is the response for the children, through difficult times, and make a conscience -- conscious effort as a community to have in the classroom education about what marriage is and why it is valuable and what is important about that and maybe share the things i've shared with you, the brookings institute study. and you have a popular culture that sets a very different expectations. almost without thinking, not

heroes necessarily promoting the values and when we have one that does, they are controversial. right? they are the ones who get held up to scorn and ridicule because they stand up for the book of virtues or truths, as we saw just recently with tim tebow. so, we have this problem in our culture. so when the people in chattanooga decided we are going to fight against the culture and do it as a community, and they lowered all three of the rates by 25% in the first three years. it can happen. we can do this. respecting everybody in their right to live their lives but understanding that there are intrinsic good and body and institutions that have been in existence for a long time and we true and right and has been in existence since the beginning

of humankind. [applause] >> is tim tebow a hero? [applause] >> i hesitated because he beat the pittsburgh steelers. [laughter] sort of a sensitive subject right now. >> i was for him yesterday. did not work out too well. >> so, in a way you work for him before you were against them. [laughter] i want to ask you about how the wood. what message would you send to the moms about hollywood. >> it is funny, after i left the senate people said he spent your life in politics.

i did -- we got married and got into politics right away and was in public life from a timeout was 32 years old. i practiced law before that. after that, i got involved with a little company because a was very concerned during my time growing up as a fall there in politics, and seeing the impact of the popular culture on our children. we took measures by putting parental controls on television, and not sending our kids to a movie unless we saw it first. you did everything you could bet you could not of what it. q. had extra-rated commercials, and you're constantly saying, turn your head away. it up button. it is that intensity in and why should parents have to fight to protect their children from what comes into their house? if someone came to your door like that who are showing themselves the way they are

showing, you would call the police. and yet television feels they have the right to go in there and show you these things. and to destroy the moral imagination of your children. when i left, my friend and i got involved in a startup business to provide technology to help parents manage the television. from the standpoint of what their children were being exposed to. it was a little company that i ended up working for and was the number -- and the number two guy at the program, the business for three years. we ended up have to go out for money to launch our product in the fall of 2008, which was one everything crashed. so timing is everything, my friends. and it did not turn out very well. we hung on for as long as we could. here is what i found. i found that as we did demonstrations of the product in focus groups with parents, there

was wide acceptance because it was a matter of basically a tool for you, it is neutral from the standpoint of what you do with it. and it gives parents choices. we're not saying that this is good or bad, we're telling you what it is and you can tell whether it is good or bad, and we gave you control. to that extent, people were excited about it. what i did find out also is that the cable industry and the entertainment industry wanted nothing to do with it and ran away from it as fast as they could. they will do the minimum. they will do the minimum to show that they care about it giving parent parental controls, but they really do not want to. and they certainly do not want to charge anybody for create a service that parents will have to pay for because it takes away from the river -- there are other revenue. they are interested in purveying what you want to see and they do not really care what you want to secure dollars a chilling understanding. an interesting thing i found out

because i told them, look, this is a great product. you have parents that desperately want something that can help them manage it so that when their 6-year-old or 10- year-old is watching television, they do not have to worry just about what is on the show but on the commercials. there were very stark with me. they said, look, only 31% of our subscribers have kids and a home under the age of 18. it is not a big market force. it is not to use as cable. you know who are big tables of robbers are? single males. he said, we do not want to touch this thing. so there you have it. there you have this coal business decision, not what we can do to help form and give parents the ability to be able the raise their children in a way consistent with their values, but we have a entertainment industry and whether it is internet or television or movies, who in many respects have their own

agenda, number one, money. but it is also pushing the envelope, because that is what they continue to do to get new young eyes to push the envelope, and as we see that pushing of the envelope, our culture is degraded further and further. >> we will take a question from on nec's. >> i want you to know, i have all bunch of mom's following my experience today. i will be writing about it in two different forums on cafemom. my husband and i are in the process of selling our home, but this is proving to be a very difficult task. i was wondering what you and your administration would do to try to repair the damage that has been done to the housing market. >> i get that question quite a bit. i have at least in my own mind somewhat of an unsatisfactory answer. i know a politician should not say that, but the housing market

had a boom, and had a huge bubble, and it burst. what we saw was -- what happened in the housing front was what happened in the financial services from, government injected itself through fannie and freddie and other ways to try to soften the blow. and in softening the blow, as we've seen in the financial markets, we have to prolong the pain. we have stretched out this situation for a longer and longer time, and we still have not reached the point where we in a sense have hit bottom. and can accurately and fairly price tag. -- everything. all the bad loans had been swept out and we can then reestablished real value of the house, of housing, and then grow from there. we are still carrying these dead mortgages, if you will, along with us because we have a government that does not want to recognize the pain as we did

with respect to the financial- services sector. i believe in letting markets work and sometimes it is like taking the band-aid off when you have got -- for me, my arms are a little hairy, so when you take the band up, you do not want to take off slowly because it really hurts. you take it off real quick and it hurts for a second and then it goes away. in some respects, that is what we have to do with the housing market. you have to find of market and let this market work. you have to have the folks, whether they ended up speculating and losing money or they simply bought their house at the wrong time, people have to go through the pain of recognizing that loss and moving on. if we do not do not, then we will have a malaise in the housing market which will continue to drag down our economy for a long time. formate, it is quick trying to apply more band-aids and just

pull them off, let the market work, and let's start all over and build a strong housing market. [applause] >> i think he broke news about your hairy arms. >> but now i understand the sleeveless vest. >> ithank you for being here today. real excited to meet you guys today. my name is becky and i am from camden, south carolina. i am going to go back to a subject you homes: they homes go. we're one of those families as well, the home school our children. many families are turning to homeschooling to give their children a better education than what they feel is out there.

you will obviously support homeschooling and i wondered what steps would you take, to defend the rights of parents to direct their children's education with no fear of governmental intervention. >> i guess i will take it. my feeling is that and i say this when i talk about education, we should have an education system that serves the customer of the education system. and the customer the education system is the parent. because it is the parents' responsibility to educate your children. now we have been conditioned by society that believes that at a certain age, it is no longer your responsibility, that you can drop your kids off a public school or private school, whatever, and it is someone else's job to do this. of course that is not true. they are still your children. you have the responsibility of making sure, because they are your children, that they are

provided for in every way as a child, whether there -- it is their food or their transportation, whatever is, and education is certainly a big part of it. if you educate your children from the moment there wonder you teach them their alphabet and everything. and it does not stop because you had someone helping you. you need to be, i think, reminded as we were that if parents do not engage, then you are turning of your child to be raised by people who may or may not share your values, who may or may not do what you want and believe it is in the best interest of your children, or why would you do that? other than the fact that you have to because you have a choice. and this is the frustration of a lot of parents in america today, that they do not feel like they have any choice, that their stock -- that they are stuck. we have an education system that focuses in on the education system. but enough focus in on your chao, they talk about children.

-- your child, the focus of about children. we have businesses in america, large ones, that provide services to millions of people and the education system does children. if they have a lot of in every business -- who comes first? the customer. that is not true in the education system in this country. i did the system comes first of the employee or whatever it is, but it is not, and maybe it is that children first, but it is certainly not apparent. it is certainly not the parent and what we can do to work with parents of the thinking to -- so they can get for their children what they believe their children need to get successful, not as society necessarily see successful. because you know what? theety, let's look at let child left behind, which i voted for but i would repeal of i get that chance and i hope i get it

as president. society said what is really important is academics. what is really import his academic accomplishments. what if your parent who believes that, academics are important but you know what? all my child to be raised with a deep, rich feith, or watch out to be really good and virtuous and that is more important to me than how well they do at a particular subject. maybe those things are more highly valued by the parent. why not? as you said before, the three things you have to do to be successful is work, that is now use the parents want to and still, it was instilled in me. and a very important part, a set of values, hard work, integrity, all of those things -- how many people will hire the hard worker who has integrity and honesty and loyalty and maybe i see students or you want the one who is a a student that has no

power user virtues? why don't we focus -- what we just focus on the a? why don't we have a system that provides the parent and environment to focus on the things that we know are successful, and it is not just academic educate -- academic achievement, but that is what the entire education system is focused on and not what is best for the mom and dad, it is family. it is broken and people say, what can you do about the federal level? not much, to be honest with you. all we can do is repeal much of what behind and get the federal government out of the way of education. one thing i believe then and you may have seen a little bit of this today, i believe in getting up and telling people what i think. sometimes that gets people mad, but it also gets them talking. i think it is really important we have national discussions about what we want our country to be. and talk about important things, talk about a real fundamental

reform of our education system and empowering parents -- i hate to use the term revolution, but maybe that what is what it needs. parents need to unite and say we're not going to take this anymore. we're not to be told what our children do and how they are going to do it. we demand for the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on the education system that you give us an education system that meets the needs of me as a parent and what is best for my children. now you have other say, well we know better. i remember this debate a few years ago that you may remember, i got that designed the clinton health-care plan " way back in the mid-1990s. was on meet the press with phil gramm. they're going back and forth about the clinton health-care plan of an and about who cares for this and how good this is for your kids and whatever. the filing that -- he said i

care for your children as much as you do, phil. bill said, you care as much as i do? what are their names? is a, you know your children's names, right? you know your children's name and you know what they want. as much as the education says that they care, they do not because they do not know your kids. we have seven children. they are all different. they'll learn differently, they need different things. what we trust parents? some parents fail. unfortunately they will. well government have to pick up the pieces and help? yes, they will. but why do we deny parents who love and what what is best for their children the opportunity to do that? why don't government specifically say to those that are responsible, think about this, to those who are responsible, no, you are not one have freedom? you're not one to get what you want because we have a system that treats everybody the same. it is not american, folks.

>> know. >> you have one less upon and that the debate tonight. you did quite well in iowa and not as well and you have to. >> we did very well in new hampshire given what we were of a dense. we finished fourth and spend the money. -- and spent no money. [applause] was spent no money. everyone else spent millions. we spent nothing. we were at 2 points a week before the primary and we ended up fourth place ahead of the other two conservatives in the race who spent millions. i think we did exceptionally well. [unintelligible] >> we are going to note within the next two weeks with the results are in iowa. a lot of votes of and shifting around there. this may be a very different environment on saturday that what people think.

>> with three conservatives in the race, ron paul as the libertarian but, mitt romney has the establishment vote, how do three conservatives, how do one of you emerge? >> for some reason it seems that the press wants to declare this a race over as quickly as possible. certainly the republican establishment does for they are all lining up, if one of these guys is not win in south carolina, mitt romney, tied in iowa, having campaigned there for six years and spent millions of dollars, and i spent $30,000 on television in iowa. he came in first place in new hampshire where he has lived for the last eight years and spent an enormous amount money and hired everyone who is anybody in your manager to work for him. 53 -- in new hampshire to work for him. how many people knew that?

the press to someone to tell you that. only 47 new vehicles -- only 47% of the people voted in new hampshire republicans. sure he did great but they are not the people who should be deciding whether republican nominee is for president. and so all the sudden, he is the guy. and of course, that has an impact on south carolina. people are watching the television and sang, he is the guy. you want to be for the winner. that is do you have to be with. if there is one thing that i have noticed -- two things that i have noticed running for president. first off, it is possible for someone with no money that goes out with good ideas and can go out there and is willing to work and put the shoe leather rent to come out of the pack and do something. i think we have been blessed that we had the opportunity to prove that again, that america

is a pretty great country and this is a pretty great political system, if that someone who was spent virtually nothing and was willing to work hard and get their money -- ideas out that actually still be in the race for president of the united states. that should be an encouragement to everybody. there still is a way, there still is a path. but it's harder when the people who have the resources are the ones who are saying, just ignore this, focus on who is the guy, who has the money, who can compete. money does not win elections. ideas, character, integrity, vision -- that wins elections. [applause] >> it is got an important endorsement from a special conservative. i'm starting to read in the back of a south carolina and are starting to so that -- starting to think that god his underside.

>> hopefully he is on all of our sides. karen are very -- karen and i are very clear about this. we pray for everyone in this race because we know how difficult it is. this is something we have been doing for years with our family, we always follow -- pray for our opponents, republican, democrat, it does not matter. it is brutal. it is really tough on families. the time away, that things that are set, the nastiness, and the vast majority of people here are wonderful but you run into people who are not so nice sometimes. it can make it not so much fun. particularly with your kids and what they have to go through sometimes with your -- with the charges and the assaults. >> the endorsement, that is an important point to make.

>> my campaign manager here. it was really unprecedented that these folks got together. i talked to several people on their way down and everyone thought was a waste of time because you put a bunch of krishna's together and they cannot agree on anything, you know? the fact that here they are and they came up with a very broad consensus, 75% of the folks decided to come out and so that we are going to support this and give an endorsement and several people came out individually and endorsed does, it was showing how important is races for conservatives, though we believe that we have to win this race by having a mandate for the kind of change necessary to restore constitutional principles back to this country and to get the kind of bottom-up solution to problems that made america great, believing in 3 people, free markets, faith, family, and

freedom. and if we do not deny it -- do not do that, i talked yesterday about how 1980 we're going to a similar election with jimmy carter and economic malaise in stagflation and a disrespect around a world, and the experts came down here to south carolina and told you you had a vote for someone who could win, because we had to win. and the only thing you care about is winning. and it promoted someone named george h.w. bush. and the other choice was a guy named reagan. everyone looks back at reagan says, ronald reagan. when ronald reagan came to south carolina he was not ronald reagan. it was just the governor of california, the former governor california, and not the reagan we all know now. if the south carolina saw in reagan someone who could be that person. and he was willing to buck the

experts and the pundits and voted for what american needed. as a result, it made all the difference. that is what i have been encouraging south carolinian is to do. this is a state that has strong american values, a conservative principles, and all i ask you to do a vote your conscience. but those principal -- vote your principles. if america is not going to give room here, where else are they going to get a from? allowed into what you think is right and not defer to the political pros who do not care about the issues you care about. >> and i would say but for my husband. [laughter] [applause] >> i think this audience could sit and ask questions all day but we are out of time. we really appreciate you coming and talking to us today. thank you very [applause]

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your big boy. >> there you go. there you go very >> thank you so much. >> very nice to meet you. i'm kathy. >> hi, kathy. [unintelligible] >> i hope that as a good thing. >> if it is a great thing. >> thank you so much.

to end the best way to get out of here. -- >> the white -- the best way to get out of here. >> i have trouble for 100 miles and i have been thinking in from day one. >> thank you. >> ready? >> one more right here. >> thank you very much. >> you bet. >> thank you. >> pretty sad, isn't it?

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you're so sweet. [unintelligible] >> thank you. >> thank you, hermione. you're so beautiful. thank you so much. >> i hope so. thanks, guys. appreciate it. help us out. very good.

thanks. >> one of the events we are covering live this morning is with texas governor rick perry at a town hall meeting on the coast just south of myrtle beach. that is on c-span 3 at 9:30 a.m. eastern. here on c-span, we will be live at 1:30 p.m. with a town hall meeting hosted by presidential candidate newt gingrich, the former speaker of the house. in a few moments, today's headlines and your calls live on "washington journal." the u.s. house of representatives will be back in session today and members are returning from their holiday break and will meet at 2:00 p.m. eastern. in about 45 minutes, we will in about 45 minutes, we will talk