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out there. first up, we are going to start off this week with our interview with gary shapiro, president and ceo of the consumer electronics association. as the 2012 consumer electronics show draws to a close, give us a snapshot of what happened here this week. >> this was our most phenomenal one ever. it went really well. we talk about growth through innovation. we had over two hundred companies here and another exhibits to cover 30 football fields. about 20 new products were introduced. 80% of these companies are small businesses. they are entrepreneurs. what we are seeing is the fact that we're still at the toddler stage of innovation of new technology. we are welcoming solutions to help our health care, our information, our education.

>> one of the themes at the show has been connectivity. >> absolutely, over half the televisions sold in the united states this year will be connected to the internet. we have smartphones and tablets. with our cars even, we will always be connected, and that connection and the smart devices will increasingly customize to what we want. the devices will customize to our needs. our environment will be shaped by them. we will communicate better. the devices will start talking to each other. >> do you encourage lawmakers and policy makers to come out here and see these products, and what you hope they bring back with them? >> we want as many lawmakers as possible.

actually, policy makers from around the world come here. there are people that experience innovation, excitement, growth and potential. this show is like ice cream. you can describe ice-cream, but you have to taste it yourself to really understand what the potential is for mankind in a very, very positive way. >> in a speech this week to tech leaders that you made, you said that it is the job of these companies here at the consumer electronics show to invest in the products. it is the policy makers job to encourage the growth of those products. >> other countries all one with the u.s. has, which is tremendous innovation. what we need is a great educational system, which, to me, is the role of government

along with parents. we need broadband. almost all of these devices assume ubiquitous broadband. we need free trade. we need to attract the best and brightest people to the united states. all of this is a role for government. what we try to do as an industry is a government, here are the winners. here are the losers. you choose. >> how -- at the grand lobby, there is a picture of thomas jefferson holding your book. >> we have something called the innovation movement. almost every government is struggling right now with finances. you can raise taxes, cut spending or grow. growth comes from innovation. innovation is who we are as americans. it is what we're great at. it is our first amendment, our culture, the fact we are the

most diverse people in the world. we're good challenging the status quo. as a national policy, let's be the innovators. let's do the right things to keep those calls for the next generation. let's make sure our educational system, our free market system, our science -- let's encourage the innovators. let spread out to everything else we do and we will continue to be the country we have been. >> you held a panel with the fcc chairman. what did you learn? >> he is very focused, as he should be, on the far future. we are running out of the wireless spectrum that we need for innovation. what we're trying to get now is bipartisan legislation. broadcasters have a lot of spectrum they are not using. why not auction it off to the government or to people who can use it for wireless?

everyone will win. new jobs will be created. new products will be launched. people will have access to technology and education. that is what our government needs to do. our president and congress just have to get it through the law. >> what about the use of unlicensed spectrum? >> that is a little more controversial. that spectrum is not license to anyone and does not produce money for the government. but it is a free market. devices that we do not even know what they are use unlicensed spectrum. we need more of that. but that cannot be solved because no one owns it except the public, and we have to respect each other. >> there are a couple of bills in congress right now dealing with piracy. where you tales -- where do you stand on those bills?

>> certainly, we agreed that piracy is hurting american businesses. we have to shut down these web sites. where we disagree as -- is as to how that's done. with the bill they created, anyone can shut down the website without going through a government process. we are very afraid of that. far rightists like the tea party and far leftists like moveon.org or actually gathered together on this. >> talk about the international aspect of this show. how many visitors from out of the country have been here and are those piracy bill something that people care about beyond

the u.s. borders? >> everyone looks to what the u.s. does in terms of our policy. we're the leader. it is very important what we do. this is about regulating international web sites as well, so we have to be careful. we have about 35,000 international businesses. it is a great source of income for the united states. people are spending their money to stay in las vegas hotels. they probably gamble some. they eat here. it is a great thing to encourage more visitors to the united states. they are looking at what we're doing, and all so it is a matter of national policy. we should encourage people to come to the u.s. and see what we are doing. that should be the policy of our government, which increasingly is. let it be easier for people to come here. the truth is, we would have more people if we made it easier. i know the travel association is working very hard to change those laws and make it easier.

>> when do you start planning for the show? >> frankly, i'm spending a lot of time focusing on 2013 and 2014. this is a simultaneous equation with the convention center, the sand, the venetian, about 20-25 hotels. we have to block out a lot of space for the long term to make sure we can make this work. we need to make it comfortable for people to invest their time and money to come here. we have so many visitors, we had better take care of them. everything must be working as it should. >> is there any specific device innovation this year that really caught your eye? >> i am excited about so many things, whether it is the better connected tv sets or the tablets better doing so many things. automobile really is changing dramatically. it is getting safer and even driverless.

we have a lot of technology that is being introduced quickly in terms of health care and physical fitness. we're all getting older. health care costs are going up. i think technology is going to provide solutions. >> one of the side issues of all of this electronics is electronic waste. what we do with it? >> first of all, it is a green show, as recognized independently. we recycle materials from last year's show. we have what we call a big in pound challenge. that is to triple the amount of recycling of all major electronics in the next five years. >> gary shapiro is president and ceo of the consumer electronics association, which sponsors the consumer electronics show.

the consumer electronics association sponsors this annual electronics show in las vegas. microsoft has one of the larger presence at the consumer electronics show and we visited with them about why they are not attending next year. why is microsoft -- has microsoft made a decision not to return to this show? >> we love the consumer electronics association and the consumer electronics show, and we will continue to be here for a variety of reasons. we will have people meeting with our partners, so we will continue to be here with quite a presence. having said that, we're not going to have a keynote going forward in future years. we want to make sure that when we have something to say it is at the right time of year when we are ready to say it.

we will continue to have a major presence. we love being here. but the relationship is going to involve a bit. -- if all -- evolve a bit. we think we have the opportunity to talk to consumers in all different kinds of ways. now with our retail stores, we have more and more of an opportunity to talk to consumers every day. now that we will do this show differently, we will look at all the different variety of ways we can talk to consumers. it could be seattle, east coast, west coast, london, around the world. we're constantly looking at involving how we market and how we talk to consumers. >> what does it take to put on the show here? is it a yearlong event? >> it is a multi-year process. we take advantage of the latest technologies. certainly an extensive amount of

work to put the boots together as well as the keynote, to figure -- booth together as well as the keynote, to figure out what story we want to tell at the right time. >> might result, thank you. -- microsoft, thank you. while visiting the microsoft up withe also knocaught carol eisa of california, who has attended the show -- daryl issa of california, who has attended the show for many years. >> tell me why this software is different. >> well, we really do think we take a different approach than

what the competition is doing. you put the phones side-by-side, you will see. >> this is a nokia phone using windows software. it is different than the iphone which is hardware and software from one vendor. >> that is right. just like the pc, the phone follows a very similar model. we have several nokia phones. we have an atc. >> you're doing droid and microsoft. -- they are doing droid and microsoft. >> absolutely. they can work with many partners. >> that is a big screen. >> and 16 megabytes of camera. >> -- megapixel camera. >> is the screen different? >> the screen is a larger size.

what we believe that microsoft is that one size does not fit all. some people like a white phone with curves. something like -- some people like a larger phone with a better camera. we are bringing this experience across windows, and acrossxbox, and certainly the phone. these are like a dashboard to my whole life. this can actually tell you what the weather is here in las vegas as well. when i get a tweet from my friends or family -- >> they actually integrate the social network. >> but we went about it a different way. not only is it integrated with facebook and all the social media, it actually puts people

first. i do not have to think anymore, should i facebook that person? i could just go to any of the content i have any keeps track of all of their social media for me. whether they're on facebook or twitter, or maybe you might actually want to make a phone call. >> i have to ask the important question. new software. what kind of battery life to expect? >> that is a great question. we expect a full day of battery life with regular usage. 24-houre looking for a window. this is a 4g fuphone. >> look, it is a constant trade

off. when you have live, instant experience is pulling from the data network all the time, it is pulling from the battery all the time. >> you are not in control of how they get more life with less power. >> we are working with them to set a minimum arbar. >> i saw it has auto dim, so it does go to a two phase shutdown. >> and you can set the timing on that. it does go asleep. and if something does go to sleep, with a swipe of the finger, it is very easy to get back in. >> what else can you show me? >> obviously, when you think about microsoft, you think about windows. we have a variety of laptops. we have announced a few ultra books. this is windows 7.

people are excited about windows 8. the best way to get ready for windows 8 is to get the windows 7 pc today. >> upgrade included. >> starting next february, we have the beta preview. >> but windows 8 will not be backward compatible to a three year-old computer? >> anything with windows seven today. >> 7 comes 32 and you have to get 60 four -- how are you going to deal with the apps? what is going to be different in windows 8? >> certainly, time has gone by since the launch of windows 7, so more and more people are going to have it. windows eight will be a similar scenario. it will take advantage of the fact that people have been

developing 32-bit and 64 bit applications for so long that they know how to run them on boats and areas. i do not know -- to run them on both. >> this is wonderful. quite certainly for someone on the go looking for something sleek. >> this is not the one that plugs into your tv. >> you have to have the right adapter. >> everything is becoming many, but this is really an amazing box. >> we are more excited about the

opportunity in mobile and tablets. >> right now, your major competitors are the tablets and the phone. this company makes tablets and phones. what is going to happen -- if i have one of your new microsoft phones, what is the integration between the tablet or pc and my phone? >> the amazing thing about the phone that we just saw is that it is also integrated with all of the microsoft properties that you are aware of already. office is built in. >> what is the equivalent to i cloud going to be? i have a pc running windows in my district office. i have another one in congress and of course i have multiple phones and tablets. >> with the phone, it is all

just connected. the documents that you create on the phone go up to the cloud, and they are excessive will -- accessible. windows already does everything you need across the cloud. that has been going on for some time. with windows eight, it gets even better. if you download an application on one pc, it is ready for you on another. they will be waiting for you when you are ready. the other type of integration is in the look and feel. i do not know how much time you spend with xbox. >> i am more of a tivo of the tv show at 11:00 that i did not

get. my son is more of an xbox guy. that is one of the things i am looking forward to retirement for. we are training our to-year-old how to run their pcs. >> my kids get up in front of and they do not even think twice about it. they get that the sensor sees them and hears them. they do not think twice about the fact that it responds to them. >> one thing i will look at when i'm here is the next generation of television. i am not a fan of 3-d tv, but internet connection is something meaningful. it is really going to be part of connecting your connected television. >> xbox live brings movies, tv,

games, anything you are looking for from an entertainment standpoint. the real problem is how to find anything. we could have everything plugged in, but is too hard to find everything. now you could just say kinect, star trek. harry potter. it will go find them. part of natural user interface is working with the technology that makes the most sense to you and breaking down the barriers between you and technology. maybe it is gesture. maybe it is touched. maybe it is voice. we want to make it as easy as possible. >> i have to move on because i have to go find the next microsoft, the guy who came here in his car with a fold of beers. i want to see who is going to be ooth.uys -- fold up busines

i want to see who is going to be you guys in 20 years. >> when you find him, let us know. >> tell us about your dual role as a policy maker and a tech guide. >> i came out of the consumer electronics industry. the electronics world is something i have had a small role in but continue to stay in touch with. this is my 30th return to the show. the first time i came to the consumer electronics show i came in a dodge with a fold up booth in the back. the guy said, you cannot part here. i said, i am unloading. the company grew because of the ability to reach both domestic and international customers at a place like this very easily. if you want to find a big companies of tomorrow, you have

to create an opportunity, in the internet, in innovation, in tax policy, and openness of regulation. you have to create that by coming to places like this and looking not just at the big companies who all have lobbyists in washington, but at the small companies, and say, what is your problem? what is stopping your innovation? what do you need to create jobs? i am now a decade removed from chairing the association. >> as chairman of the government oversight and reform committee in the house of representatives, how can you help? >> first of all, open government helps people not make mistakes. that is a big part of government oversight. how do we open up the process? ultimately, bad regulations usually come from a lack of good information or good input. at the same time, my view is that whether it is tax reform or internet availability, i want to

make sure that i maintain good contact with a broader array of people in technology said that i can bring some of that back and held open the dialogue. but when it comes to government oversight, the other advantage is that we can look at a problem that transmits itself over all the committees of congress, and we can do legislation or oversight where we make people aware of it. it is kind of a unique opportunity where we are not pigeonholed into one part of the law. >> finally, congressman, the piracy legislation that is in committee still in the congress, do you see actions taking place on that? >> i do. i see that before the end of this congress, we need to have members of congress understand the scope of the problem of piracy, the history of how you stop piracy, basically, follow the money and shut down the money or the advertising trail,

and then make a decision on what structure would be the best. whether it is the international trade commission or as some would suggest federal court, or some third entity. the thing that lively debate is something we focused on here. it is one of the reasons i thought coming to this show a 30 of time was important. but also, there are members here with me from congress. get us here, then get us back in congress talking about how we do go on to the internet but help protect intellectual property, probably the must important asset the developed world and the united states has. >> daryl issa joins us at the consumer electronics show in las vegas. >> thank you. >> "the communicators" attended the consumer electronics show in las vegas in january. for the next several weeks, we will be showing y t