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a lasting impact on american politics. >> can you remember in the depression, those of you who are my age, when times were really hard and we left the doors unlocked? now we have the most violent, crime-ridden society in the industrialized world. i can't live with that. can you live with that? >> c-span.org/thecontenders. >> the british house of commons returned this past week after a short recess and prime minister david cameron fielded questions on a proposed health bill during weekly question time. members also paid tribute to london's sunday times war correspondent marie colvin who was killed last week when forces bombed the media center. mr. clyde beck. >> number one, mr. speaker,. >> tran one. i'm sure the whole house will wish to join me in sending our
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deepest condolences to family and friends of senior aircraftman ryan tomlin from two squadron raf regiment. it's clear from the tributes paid by his raf colleagues he was a determined young man with immense potential. is service and sacrifice to our nation will never be forgotten. >> here, here. >> members of the house will also have seen reports that talented and respected foreign correspondent for the sunday times has been killed from the bombing in syria. this is a desperate and sad reminder of the risks that journalists take to inform the world of what is happening as the dreadful events in syria. our thoughts should be with her family and friends. i had meetings with others in addition to my duties in the south i shall of further such meetings later today. >> mr. clyde beck.
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[inaudible] can he explain why since the election there's been a cut in over 4000 in the number of front-line police officers works in south yorkshire the police helicopter which last was responsible for apprehending over 700 the was going to be scrapped against the advice? how can you explain these matters which clearly indicate to the public that crime will rise when it's simply another broken promise? >> the prime minister? >> turn one. i know there are talks under way between the police. i'm confident helicopter coverage will be maintained at on the issue he raises i would make the point that actually recorded crime is down under this government. and also if you look at the figures from his majesty's inspection, they believe there'll be more police, and visible policing role then there was a year ago.
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>> thank you, mr. speaker. this monday was meant to be a happy reunion for pupils following for half term break. instead, turned out to be a day of mourning for the school and the entire community because of the news of a crash in france which claimed the life of a much loved local teacher, and left many schoolchildren seriously injured. will the prime minister join me in expressing sympathy for all those affected, for those who are still in france and being treated, swift recovery and he is be the trip home? >> i'm very grateful to my honorable friend for raising this desperately desperately sad case but i know he was much respected and that the school will be hugely missed it so the thoughts and sincere condolences on sure everyone in the house will be with my honorable friend's constituents and everyone who's been affected. i can tell him our staff in france continue to provide support to all those students in
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france, our ambassador has visited passengers in hospital, and will do everything we can with the french authorities to get people say they don't. >> mr. ed miliband. [shouting] >> mr. speaker, can i join the primers in pain tribute to senior aircraft and ryan tomlin from two squadron raf regiment. he died bravely, courageously, serving our country and our thoughts are with his family and friends. mr. speaker, we're also thinking today about the tragic death of the reporter chose a brave and tireless reporter across many continents and in many difficult situation. she was also an inspiration to women in her profession. her report in the hours before her death showed her work at her finest and again our thoughts today are with her family and friends. mr. speaker, on monday the prime minister held an emergency nhs summit. and managed to exclude the main organization representing the
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following professions, the dp's, the nurses, midwives, the pathologist, the psychiatrist, the therapist, and just for good measure, the radiologist. [laughter] how can he possibly think it's a good idea to hold the health summit which excludes the vast majority of people who do the work in the nhs? [shouting] >> what i want to do is safeguard our nhs. now, we -- [shouting] >> we are putting more money into the nhs. [shouting] money that they are specifically, that specifically committed to taking out. but let's be frank. money alone is not going to be enough. we have got to meet the challenge of an aging population, more expensive treatment, more people on long-term condition, and that is why we have to reform the nhs. my summit was about those
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organizations, including clinical commissioning groups up and down the country, 8200 gp practices that want to put these reforms in place of. [shouting] >> ed miliband. >> so he has got no one to his ridiculous summit when he excludes the vast majority of people who work in the medical profession. let's remind ourselves what the prime minister said just a few short months ago during his so-called listening exercise. he said change if it is to really work shall have the support of people who work in our nhs. we have to take our nurses and doctors with us. now he can't even be in the same room with the doctors and nurses. [laughter] doesn't that tell him that he has lost the confidence of those who work in our national health service of? >> what i want to know, mr. speaker, when is he going to ask a question about the substance of the reform?
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[shouting] he doesn't want to ask about choice because they used to be in favor of choice. he doesn't want to ask a question about competition. they used to favor competition, but now they won't support competition in the bill. they used to support gdp being in charge of health budget. they won't back that. they won't support it even though now it is in the bill. why not ask a serious question? why not, incidentally, incidentally as we are being kept here to vote at 7:00 on the publication of the risk of registered, why don't you ask a question about that? >> ed miliband. >> mr. speaker, mr. speaker, let me just -- [shouting] mr. speaker, if he doesn't think it's a serious question about his exclusion of the vast majority of people who work in our nhs -- [shouting] he shouldn't worry. you shouldn't worry --
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[shouting] >> order. house must calm down. trinkle statesmanlike is the most which members should strive. ed miliband. >> we will come to the seventh of this bill, mr. speaker, but let me ask you this question, but it's a very important question. there were people attended the summit and to express deep concern and to express deep concern about his bill, even though they were invited to summit. following his health summit can he tell us what changes, if any, he is planning to make to his bill? >> why does he worry about my diary and start worrying about his complete lack of substance? we are going ahead with these reforms because we think it is good for patients to have choice. we think it is good heavy involvement of independent and voluntary sectors in the nhs. we think it is good of more
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emphasis on public health. that is why we are doing these reforms. me remind him of one thing that he used to believe. you use it to believe this, and this is what his health secretary said. the private sector is his capacity into the nhs for the benefit of nhs patients which i think most people in this country would celebrate. they are now committed to a 5% cap on the private sector which would be hospital backing doctors, acting nurses. [shouting] >> let me ask him again. we are here at 7:00 to vote on the risk of registered. he can ask a question about it. are you frightened of your own motion? [shouting] >> i think it would be good if we could preserve some parliamentary manners in this place. the prime minister when the i'm not -- mr. ed miliband. >> mr. speaker, nobody believes him and nobody trusted on the health service. at the hospital on monday i met with senior staff working in hiv
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services who explained to me how this bill will fragment and disrupted services. the health secretary should be quiet and listen to the people who work in the health service. [shouting] if he had done some of these things, if you don't am listing before -- >> you should calm down, calm down. >> hiv treatment is currently commissioned by one organization, the primary care trust. under his plan, treatment will be commissioned by three organizations. the national commissioning board, the clinical commissioning crew, and the health and well being bored. they said to me it will damage a world-class service they provide for patients. now, why won't he listen to the people who actually know what they are talking about in the nhs? >> but it the right honorable gentleman is opposing other
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organizations that have expertise in aids and aids treatment, taking part in the nhs, he will be opposing those who do an enormous amount to support hiv. the fact is what we can see, mr. speaker, is complete opportunism from the party opposite. they used to back choice, they used to back the independent sector. they used to back reform. i say to you, mr. speaker, you don't save the nhs i oppose them before. you save the nhs by delivering reform. [shouting] >> ed miliband. >> he doesn't even understand his own bill, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, let me just explain to him, the question was about the fragmentation of commissioning. and with the experts at -- [shouting] >> opposite, order. opposite memos are becoming overexcited with a long time to go and do what you get to the bottom.
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mr. ed miliband. >> i don't think the premise wants advice from him. [laughter] >> so let me explain about the fragmentation of commissioning. you got it, but. i'm glad you could maybe get up you can answer the question. [shouting] >> order, order. i say to the opposition, keep out of it. mr. ed miliband. >> now, the reason he has lost -- [laughter] now, the reason he has lost the -- [shouting] >> order, order. order. order. order. i say that to the chancellor as well. members might enjoy -- order. numbers might be enjoying themselves by asking them to think what the country thinks. order. of what the country thinks of
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how we conduct ourselves. mr. ed miliband been accused lost the confidence of the professions of nhs. the promises he made before the election. will now give people a straight answer to the question i asked him two weeks ago and admit he has broken his promise of no top down reorganization? [shouting] >> i think would have to put it on a waiting list for care. [laughter] he asked about -- he asked about integration, he asked about integration. let me just explain to him, i don't suppose he is read the bill, clause 22 and clause 25, claims a specific duty on key organizations to integrate health and social care. it's all about integration. but here we are question five, and he still won't mention his vote on the risk of registered. and i think i know why, because i have here the brief for this
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afternoon's debate. [shouting] there isn't actually section explaining why you don't publish risk registers. [shouting] the second arguments is particularly strong. it goes like this. he block the publication of the department of health risk register in september 2009. [shouting] >> there they are. absolutely. a bunch of rank opportunists not fit to run opposition, not fit for government. [shouting] >> i'll tell you what happened, i'd say what happened on the last labour government, the lowest waiting time in history. [shouting] more doctors and nurses than ever before. [shouting] the highest patient satisfaction on the nhs. [shouting] i'll match our record on the nhs with him any day of the week. [shouting] and the problem with this prime minister is that he asks people to trust him, and he betrayed that trust.
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the problem with this prime minister is that on the nhs he thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. it's become not a symbol of how his party has changed, but of his arrogance. i tell him this, this will become his whole tax. he should listen to the public and he should drop this bill. [shouting] >> six questions and not a mention of the motion they put in front of the house tonight. put forward an argument and not back it up. there is an absence of leadership be make order. members on both sides of the house are yelling at each other. it is rude. it is unbearable on the prime minister and leader of the opposition, and it should stop. the prime minister. let me tell them what is happening in the health service under this government. waiting times for outpatient, down. waiting times for inpatient, down. number of people waiting in total, down. number of people waiting for more than a year has been have
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under this government. hospital infections down to the lowest level got a mixed towards down by 94% but that is the record we have. 4000 more doctors, almost 1000 more midwives, and fewer managers. he talked about what people think about this government. let me just remind him what his two-time candidate said about him at this week. you're not articulating a vision or a destination. you are not clearly identify a course, and no one is following you. my problem is you're not a leader. i couldn't have put it better myself. [shouting] >> thank you, mr. speaker. in 2009 when the conservatives took control of lancashire council, fostering services were rated as unsatisfactory. since then their budget is reduced by 120,000 pounds, and they are now rated as outstanding.
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would my right honorable friend join me in congratulating tony winter and his conservative colleagues, not only doing more for less, but doing it better as well? >> i served it to my honorable friend and he makes an important point, which is across the country at different council coping with issues of fostering and adoption and producing very different results. i think what we need to do is publish all of these figures so we can see which councils are doing well in getting value for money as they cleared are in lancashire. but above all which families, which councils are doing the best to get those children out of there and get them into a warm and loving home. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the national minimum wage has put millions of workers out of poverty pay. was the prime minister support hard-working people and give a commitment today to drop unjust class for free be? >> we support the minimum wage and we have supported, we've already raid today. i think it has an important role to play.
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>> the children of somalia should have an expectation of a life before death. does not tomorrow's london conference give the opportunity to say go to the terrorists and powers of the crop that we are all determined to do whatever we can to ensure stability and good governance in somalia? and will the prime minister welcome the participation in the conference the president of somaliland, giving somalia since experience of peace building in the region? >> i'm grateful to my right honorable friend for raising this issue. we will be welcoming the president of somaliland to the conference, and i think somaliland has taken some important steps forward in showing that you can have a better government, better economic progress, and i think there are in many ways an example that others can follow. this conference is not about recognizing somaliland is not trying to put in place the building blocks amongst international community but above all a most the somalis themselves for a stronger and safer somalia.
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that means taking action on piracy, action on hostages, it means taking action to support that should increase its funding and increase its role in mogadishu. it means working with all the parts of somalia to try and give that country which has been more blighted by famine, by disease, by terrorism, then almost any other in the world to give the country a second chance. >> given with the prime minister said last week in scotland, will he devote as much time in facing up to the grievances that the english feel from the current proposal of devolution that he will be giving to considering new proposals of devolution to scotland? will be open a major debate here in the house on the english question so that members from all parts of the house can invite him on what measures of devolution england needs if we are taking equity with other countries in the united kingdom? [shouting] >> we have obviously set up the
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group to look at this issue, and we want to make sure that devolution works for everyone in the united kingdom. but i would part company with the right honorable gentleman for this reason, that i believe the united kingdom has been adequately successful partnership between all its members. and i think that actually far from wanting to appeal to english people that in any way to the nurture grievance they feel, i want to appeal to my fellow and cushman, say this is but a great partnership, a great partnership with scotland but a great partnership for england, too. of course, scotland must make its choice. we hope to scotland will choose to remain in this partnership that has done so well for the last 300 years. >> thank you, mr. speaker. does the prime minister agree that the elected mayor -- [inaudible] him and. >> i support having elected mayors and a great cities. obvious it will be for the
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cities themselves to choose but i'm hugely encouraged by what has happened in liverpool recently. we will be having these referenda and people in bristol will have their chance to make that choice. at the same time what people haven't entirely noticed is the government is going to huge devolution to cities in terms of the powers and the money that were prepared to offer them so they can build their own futures but if you think of how bristol leads manchester, liverpool, has a great cities actually build themselves up in the first place, it wasn't order and instruction by london that goes to great city figures that did it for them. >> on tuesday the education secretary took the decision, having a chilling effect on the freedom and expression or does the education secretary speaking for the government? >> the point i make is this, it was right to set out the inquiry, that is a decision foes supported by the entire government. but i do think that my right
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honorable friend is making an important point, which is even as this inquiry goes on, we want to a vibrant press that feels it can call the powerful to account. we don't want to see a chilled, although sometimes one may feel advantage of having a chilled. that is not what we want. >> tran one. many of my constituents will be fully supported of the chance of refusal yesterday to sign up on the e.u. account. does the prime minister agree with me and my constituents that it is unacceptable, they failed to get order to sign off on their account? >> i think my honorable friend makes an abort and point it i think for too long these accounts have been properly dealt with and corruption and fraud hasn't been dealt with and it's entirely right to make this stand. >> last week the primacy said
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there were more on the conference, but couldn't name any but a few months ago he mocked the idea of scotland controlling its own. [inaudible] can the prime minister name one ballot has on his mind from this latest you turn? >> i didn't think that the scottish national party favored devolution? i thought they favored separation. yet as soon as you are offered a referendum that give you the chance to put that in front of the scottish people, you start running away. >> doctor julian hufford. >> thank you, mr. speaker. tomorrow members of this house will have the chance to debate the importance of cycling falling the cycling campaign. they have made some welcome announcement and it doesn't. is too much more to do. will the prime minister increase cycling and take much greater sense of promoting cycling across the country? >> i think at times camping is an excellent camping. i strong support within trying
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to do. anyone who's got on a bicycle, particularly in one of our busiest cities knows that you're taking a life into her hands every time you do so. so we do need to do more to try and make cycling safer. the government is making it easier for council to install meters at junctions. were putting up 119 pounds into train for children, and 50 million pounds for better cycle facilities across the country. i think if we want to encourage the growth in cycling we've seen in recent years we need to get behind campaigns like this. [inaudible] [shouting] [inaudible] worth 224 million. in fear of the fact that there are record numbers of unemployed people, and that employees of his company had been arrested, what action is being taken to make sure that neither
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unemployed people for the taxpayer are victims of fraud? >> the honorable lady raises an abort an issue, and i understand this issue dates back two years to schemes run by the previous government. and it was, and i understand it was the companies sell that raise the issue with the relevant authorities. there's an ongoing police investigation so it would be inappropriate for me to comment much further but all i would say is the investigation needs to be thorough, needs to get to the truth and then we can take the findings. >> young people have benefited from work experience schemes. does the prime minister, well the prime minister praise of those companies, everything they possible can to encourage work experience schemes? unlike -- [inaudible] rather get a hand out as opposed to a hand up in life. >> i think the honorable lady is becoming in this house and i
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think overland majority in this country who think that companies offering work experience teams to those on unemployment benefits is a thoroughly good thing. let's be clear, vision people, there is not a compulsory scheme. is a scheme that young people ask to go with. the findings are, around half of them are actually getting work at the end of these schemes. that is a far better outcome than the future jobs fund, and about a 20th of the cause. so i think we should encourage companies in encouraging people to expand work experience because it gives people a chance of seeing work and all it involves and gives them a better chance to get a job. >> there are thousands of workers right across every constituency concerned and angry about the euro fight or indian contract earlier this week you held a meeting. when will you be arranging a meeting for all of lancashire? if he has something to find? >> i'm not arranging any
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meetings to be i met with a number of members of parliament who have dae in the constituents, including the honorable member, who came to see me with the honorable member at the same time. i've had many mps come to see me, but this government is absolutely committed to helping with euro fight. we try and every when we can. i've been taking trip from across the middle is but let me say, when i don't often get criticized by labour mps for taking rolls-royce on the airplane but i think it is right to fly the flag for great british businesses and i will continue to do so. >> mr. peter bone. >> mr. speaker, last week at the breakfast table -- [laughter] mrs. bowen was saying how she knew the prime minister wanted to deport the terrorist straight away and put the national

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