but this is a shock of marriage, a marriage of convenience. -- a shotgun marriage, a marriage of convenience. he said whether this was an insurance policy, if they were attacked they might rely on al- qaeda's to retaliate, he said that was the belief of the u.s. government. thank you. >> hello, i am from boulder. i was struck by your comments about the messaging of the stories of fort hood and how they would not recognize the facts and avoid discussing what it really meant. it made me think about this story about the intelligence agencies saying they do not see a move by iran to build a member nuclear weapon. to what extent do you think messaging is going on? how should we interpret the

narrative's coming out of our and other administrations? what's a think it is important to be your own reporter. take the information and try to assess it for yourself. there is a lot of messaging going on. if the report sayit is always what they are saying and what they really the a one anwar al- awlaki people would mean. was making a very public case about why he should be on the cia kill or capture less. yet i found it bizarre that the view of government did not use all live u.s. government did not use all to of the tools at its disposal to delegitimize him. when he lived in the united states, he was picked up three times for soliciting prostitutes and loitering around a school in san diego. and there are vivid record inthere are police records that and vermont show this.

any hollywood celebrity. des but you cannot get a mug shot of the cleric. jericka voral au pair i neveri never understood that. i thought that was such a powerful piece of evidence. he is picked up for lording around an elementary school -- i had of who assume so. it is a disconnect. you have to see what is in the public domain. hitespecially when it comes to iran. you have to use your own good judgment about measuring the message, not so much what they are saying but what they really mean. does that help? >> i think so. the commentary was they see iran building some capabilities but galt not developing an

intention. is that a distinction without a difference in your mind? if we could put it through your well lie filter, what are they trying to era>> my assessment would be it might be an effort to minimize the findings where they said they had serious concerns about the nuclear program in iran. i know from speaking with the former cia director michael hayden that he always felt iran that he all of rafah to brief on for the president in in part because part because our general understanding of the regime is very limited. . he said it was very opaque. you never understood where the leverage points were to try to program. when you have countries that have a limited intelligence view and that when you have and you have a country like iran concrete that have which is becoming more isolated, which is part of your strategy to try to

convince them to abandon their program, you increase the likelihood of a miscalculation. you have two parties with limited information about each. other. i think that is part of it as well. my final point i would make on that is, recently leon panetta and he wrote over the said he believed israel would hit iran in april, may, or june. of a capitol hill choral the committeeone of my contacts said to me and it had appointed that the headline is we do not vice president really know. we believe. the israelis are not sharing

that kind of information. we are not in lockstep. we think we believe but we do not know. that is a changed from eight a year years ago. >> thank you. >> hello. i am running for a delegate here in el paso county. i am a native of colorado. graduate of colorado state university. in 2001 my son was attending csu. we were told that foreign students get more money than he can. we were stationed in germany when the war broke out. there was a sell captured in germany north of us. one of the ladies had worked in the commissary. we had seen her many times.

we were trained what to watch for. we got here in colorado and, oh my gosh, i knew there was a pipeline coming up from mexico, but i began finding out and loveland, really? i. 76. is no longer just migrant workers from mexico. there are many people from different countries coming through. there are a lot of simoleons, iranians started coming in. understand who is friendly and >> that is a good question. one of the things i tried to tell people is when we look at this problem in the future, i tried to remind people that one of the goals of a group like al qaeda or extremists is to try to discourage us to use religion

as a dividing line. do you know what i mean by that? to be overly suspicious of people who are muslim, for example. i think when we went to create a dividing line, we have to ask ourselves, we have to tear ever won on one side and everyone on the other. they tried to use religion as a wedge. to use religion as a wedge is very un-american. your question is important. what we have seen in the last 10 years is a group like al- qaeda company. you have this homegrown component. in 2006 al qaeda made a policy decision to go after people from america and western europe because it blows the entire

profile. one thing that law enforcement says to me often is it is more important to look at who people are following the. then you understand who the followers are. it is a broad spectrum of people now. it is the baptist carlos bledsoe from tennessee. it is not black and white anymore. that is the problem. there is no easy answer to your question. thank you. >> good morning. i live in denver. for my day job work with the social networks and david -- digital advertisers doing data mining. it is amazing what we can learn about a person without knowing who they are. my question to you is, given there are over 100 million users for facebook and the

other social networks are just as large, how do you balance our ability to data mining disinformation to find the bad guys versus my desire not to have the government intrude into my private life? >> that is really the leading edge of where we are going. at what point does this hateful speech on the internet really cross the line where it starts to incite violence? the head of the george washington homeland's security policy group said to me recently, we ought to treat this material like child pornography did have filters. what good really comes of this material? the question becomes, what characteristics the you used to define that basket? to what extent do we want the

government looking at people on the web all the time? i know from my reporting that after fort hood, there was a facebook page up. you had to assume that when you fronted him on facebook you were really fronting an fbi agent. this is kind of the honey pot of how you gather information. you want to leave the sights set so you see who comes to them. the flip side is if you leave them up you could create a problem. an example of that was in a magazine. i do not know how many of you are familiar with "inspire" magazine. he was killed in the cia strike. i know from my reporting at the time, there was a consideration within the government to make him the second american on the cia kill or capture less. this digital magazine is very

selective. kind of like martha stewart living for would be jihadists. i am sure she would appreciate that plug. it is very western and friendly. the kind of thing you would pick up in the dentist's office. there was a debate as to whether -- there is a big build up for the release of the magazine -- whether they should leave it up and see who goes to it. or whether it would really cause a lot of problems and if they should take it down. the first version of the magazine when it went up, it was all crazy. it was garbled and on all of the jihadist forum's on the web. the british said, we do not care what the americans think, we are taking it down. we do not want to see who goes there and what kind of trouble it causes.

you really hit the nail on the head there. i do not know where we draw the line yet. one of the goals of the group is to fundamentally change the way that we live our lives. in an effort to protect against a tax in the future, do we want to hand these groups a victory that would not have already? do we fundamentally change the way we operate by fundamentally changing the government, monitoring their own citizens? it may be that we have to have -- this was an idea that was given to me -- we may have to have a policy debate about the likelihood of a small scale or medium scale terrorist attack in that would be the price of not having the government so into the business of its citizens. >> thank you. >> my name is joe hines from adams county.

given that we cherish religious liberty in this country and the struggle we are engaged and obviously has the strong religious component. getting back to one of the other questions, how should we as americans try to engage the muslim populations such that we can better assimilate them into our culture? the second question is related -- do you see the struggle as more of a criminal struggle or as a military struggle? >> i see it more as i think a military struggle and lost a criminal struggle. -- and last a criminal struggle. this is really a battle of ideas in the end. is about an ideology.

while i may see it as more of a military struggle, it is not in a -- is not a set of ideas you can newt. it does not go away. what struggles -- what troubles me is i think there is a real opportunity to lose intelligence. guantanamo bay was supposed to be closed by january of 2010. that has not happened for a variety of reasons. the compromise is that there has been no new detainee's there for several years now. one of the reasons that has happened is because we really no longer have a capture policy, we have to kill policy. people are very gun shy about interrogating people now because they're worried about whether they will be sued,

whether a decision by the justice department under one administration will be thrown out the window by the next. i know from speaking to individuals that people are very reluctant to get into that business. your first question, which is really a question about america, i come back to the idea that was given to me by britain's equivalent of their homeland security secretary. they try to make a dividing line setting everyone is on one side and everyone else is on the other. one of the great things about our country is you can practice religion unencumbered. that is an something i feel. this is a personal opinion i am expressing that we want to let go of. and hands them a victory that it would not otherwise have. there is no denying the data that when you look at many of these cases, especially the

young men from the minneapolis area who have gone to somalia to join the al qaeda affiliate there, many of them are naturalized citizens and they came to the united states is very young children. they have never felt completely at home here. but you very much. [applause]

[captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> next, president obama's remarks at a chicago fund- raising event and live at 7:00 a.m., your calls and comments on "washington journal." >> ken cuccinelli discussing his date's lawsuit going before the supreme court, challenging the affordable health care act -- >> justice roberts, some people look at this the week before the federal government filed a motion to dismiss as a harbinger of doom for our side. i do not see it that way. despite the broad language of the, scott case, which was necessary, the very last paragraph brings a broad language through a thin funnel and the federal government

cannot get this bill through the funnel. if that is a requirement for justice roberts, i am confident that -- there has not been enough time for us to really assess how he -- host: this is necessary and proper? >> you can see the entire interview on "newsmakers" sunday morning at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on c-span. it is available online at c- span.org. >> president obama spoke at a campaign fund-raiser in his hometown of chicago yesterday. it was the first of two fundraisers the president attended in chicago. he then flew to atlanta for three more. this is 40 minutes. [applause] >> hello, chicago. thank you. thank you so much. thank you. it is good to be home.

[applause] thank you very much. thank you. everybody, please have a seat. thank you so much. i have never seen this city look more beautiful. i have to say. every time i come back, i am overwhelmed with not only the beauty of the city, but -- i was explaining to folks as we were flying over dick durbin -- what makes this place so special is not just this is where my daughters were born. i started my political career here, but i got so many good friends and some relationships. as i looked out across their

rooms seen so many people who put up with me -- [laughter] before i was president and helped me get their, it is extraordinary. i miss you guys. i wish i could stay the weekend. [laughter] especially, this weekend because we all know there is no better place to be on st. patrick's day than in chicago. [applause] let me say thank you to one of the finest attorney generals and the country. she proved it again in helping us get a settlement on housing. lisa madigan. [applause] the senior center in the great state of illinois, dick durbin. he is in the house.

[applause] the governor of the great state of illinois. [applause] you got a new mayor. i do not know how he is doing, but he seems to have a little bit of energy. [laughter] mr. rahm emanuel. [applause] we have representatives dan schakowsky and bobby rush. [applause] the trees were always trim debt. the snow was always shoveled. [laughter] i want to thank axelrod and daley for the pre-program.

he might have noticed that we have some guests in illinois this week. apparently things have not wrapped up on the other side. [laughter] there is interest in chicago in the primary on tuesday. my message to all of the candidates is welcome to the land of lincoln. [laughter] i am thinking maybe some linkedin will rub off on them when they are here. -- lincoln will rub off on them when they are here. [laughter] [applause] he was the leader who saved our union. in the midst of the civil war, he launched the transcontinental railroad, understanding that in order for america to grow, we had to stick to ourselves together to be

connected coast to coast. he said of the first land grant colleges in the midst of a war because this self-taught man understood that education gives the people the chance to realize their potential and if we were able to get them the opportunity to learn, that would be good for all of us, not just that person. he created the national commanded -- academy of sciences to provide discovery and innovation leading to new jobs and new in trustees -- industries. lincoln knew that if we did not act to facilitate these things, they would not happen.

as a result, we would all be worse off. he understood that we are a people that take great pride in our self-reliance and independence, but that we are also one nation and one people. we rise or fall together. i hope that while my counterparts on the other side enjoy the outstanding hospitality of the people of illinois and spend money to create the economy -- [laughter] -- i hope they take some time to reflect on this great man, the first republican president. of course, you may not feel confident that will happen. you may be watching some of this avalanche and think that this is not appealing to the better angle of our nature. [laughter]

that vision of a lincoln's, a vision of a big, bold, generous, dynamic, active, inclusive, america -- that has driven this country for more than 200 years. that is the vision that helped create chicago. that is why we do not make little plans here. that is not a democratic vision or a republican vision. that is a quintessentially american vision. [applause] that is the vision that drove our campaign in 2008 and that so many of you work your hearts out to see realized. it was not because you were

willing to settle for an america where people are left to fend for themselves. everybody is playing by their own rules. what he believed in was an america where everyone who works hard has a chance to get ahead. everybody. does not matter what you look like, where you come from, what your name is. everybody has the chance. that is the vision we share and the change we believe in. you did not get involved because a guy named barack obama was going to become president. [laughter] we know we did we knew it was not going to be easy or quick -- we knew it was not going to be easy or quick. i t was going to be hard. think about what happened over the last three years because of what you did in 2008.

because of your efforts, your commitment not to me but to -- but to the country into each other. we started to see what changed looked like. i signed the first bill into law that says women deserve an equal day's pay for equal day's work because our daughter should have the same opportunities as our sons. [applause] change is the decision we made industry from collapse, even when some are saying let us lead detroit go bankrupt. we had 1 million jobs on the line. the entire economy of the midwest and the country at stake. i was not about to let that happen. because of your efforts, it did not happen. today, gm is back on top as the world's number one automaker, just reported the highest profits in 100 years. [applause] the factory here in chicago is

going gangbusters. they have more than 200,000 new jobs created in the past two and a half years, the other industry is back. that change happen because of you. change is a decision we decided -- we need to stop waiting for congress to do something about our oil addiction and finally raise efficiency standards in our cars and trucks so that by the next decade, we will be driving american-made cars that get 55 miles to the gallon which will save the typical family $8,000. [applause] that is what change is. change is as a longer handing out $60 billion in taxpayer subsidies to banks who are managing student loans.

instead, giving the money directly to students who need it and families who want to see a better life for the next generation. so that millions of children all across the country benefit. change is the fact that for the first time in our history, you do not -- you do not have to hide to you love because -- to serve the country you love. do not ask do not tell is over. [applause] change is health care reform that we passed after a century of trying, which means nobody will go bankrupt in this country just because they get sick. [applause] we have to in the half million young people who are the have health insurance today because -- 2.5 million people who have

health insurance today because they can stay on their parents' health insurance. more seniors have lower drug prices. not only is preventative care not covered, it also means that families with children with preexisting conditions are not willing to have to worry that somehow their child is going to be left or they will have to mortgage their business or lose their home because of that illness. that is what change is. james is fulfilling the first problems reaching -- change is fulfilling the first problems i made by ending the war in iraq. aachen[applause] we have made sure that wall street is playing by the rules, stabilizing our economy. all this happened because of your efforts. now, the question is, what

happens next? none of this has been easy. we have got a lot more work to do. there are still too many americans out there who are struggling. whose homes are under water. who are still looking for work. there are too many families right here in chicago who can barely pay the bills. we are trying to figure out -- they are trying to figure out how to let their kids go to college. over the past two years, we have created close to 4 million new jobs. [applause] we have got the biggest growth in manufacturing since the biggest 1990's. [applause] the economy is stronger. our exports are going to double. businesses feel more confident. so, we have an opportunity to build on all the work we have done over the last three years and the question is, are we

going to be able to stay on track and move in the right direction? the other side has got an entirely different idea. their basic theory is that we go back to doing things the same way we were doing them before the crisis hit. promoting the same policies that got us into this mess in the first place. it is my belief that the last thing we can afford to do is go back to the same policies that got us into this mess. that is the last thing we can afford to do. that is what they are talking about. they are not making any secret of it, you can watch the ads on tv. they want to go back to wall street playing by its own rules. they want to go back to the days when insurance companies deny coverage or jack up premiums without reasons. they want to spend trillions of dollars more on tax breaks for the various wealthiest individuals, even if it means adding to the deficit or cutting

things like education or medicare. they want to leave everybody on their own. everybody likes their own rules. they are wrong. the united states of america, we have always been greater together than alone. we are better off when we keep to the basic american promise that you can -- if you work hard, you can raise a family and on a home, send your kid to college, save money for retirement. we are better off when the laws are applied fairly to everybody, not just some. that is the choice in this election. this is not just another political debate. this is the defining issue of our time because we are in a make or break time not only for

the middle class, but everybody fighting to get into the middle class. we can go back to an economy based on outsourcing -- we cannot go back to an economy based on outsourcing. an economy built on american manufacturing and energy and skills and education for american workers and the values that made this country great and made this city great and made a mistake great, hard work and fair play and shared responsibility is what we need. that is what is at stake. so, over the coming months, we will have a great debate about who's vision will deliver for the american people. i think we need to make sure that the next generation of manufacturing takes root knot in asia or europe, but not -- but in pittsburgh, cleveland, and chicago.

that is what i believe. [applause] i do not want this nation to be known just for buying and consuming things. i want us to be known for building and selling products all around the world. [applause] this is why i have said, let us stop rewarding businesses that ship jobs overseas. let us award companies that are creating jobs right here in the u.s. [applause] most americans agree. we should be making our schools the envy of the world. by the way, there is a chicago export named arne duncan who is doing unbelievable work at a national level. [applause] he understand, as i understand, that it starts with the man or woman at the front of the classroom. a good teacher can increase the lifetime earnings of a classroom by over $250,000. so, i do not want to hear

washington either defend the status quo or spend all their time bashing teachers. we have been talking about giving schools at the resources they need to hire good teachers and keep them and reward the best ones and provide schools the flexibility to teach with passion. and, replacing teachers who are not helping our kids. [applause] that is what i believe. [applause] when kids do graduate, the biggest challenge they are facing is how to afford a college education. we have more tuition debt than credit card debt. this congress has to pay attention because in july, student loan interest rates are scheduled to double if we do not do anything about it. we have got to focus on how we

make sure our kids can get good value, that they're making informed choices, and they're getting help. colleges and universities have to do their part. i have said to university presidents that we want to work with you and help you, but we cannot keep on finding tuition rates that are skyrocketing. higher education cannot be a luxury. it needs to be imperative that every family should be able to in -- afford. an economy that is said to last is one where we support science and research trying to make sure the next breakthrough in clean energy and biotechnology happens right here in the u.s. we have restored science to its rightful place. on things like stem cell research, we said, let us follow the science. [applause]

we also have to make investments in science. we have to make investments in basic research. lincoln understood that. you understand it. nowhere is that truer than in the area of energy. we have been subsidizing oil companies for 100 years. now is the time to stop subsidizing an oil industry that has rarely been more profitable. double down on a clean energy industry that has never been more promising. solar, wind, while fuel. homegrown, american energy. [applause] that is what we believe. the other side has a different view. we believe we need to get our businesses the best access to newer railroad and fast internet. i believe in having the best off. [applause]

i do not want to go to time and see a better airport and over here. -- i do not want to go to china and see a better airport than over here. i do not want to see a better road in germany than when short drive. [applause] it is time to take the money and spend down -- take down the debt and then do some nation- building here at home. let us put people back to work. [applause] and we need to make sure we have a tax system that reflects everybody doing their fair share. [applause] i was with warren buffett a couple of days ago and he is quite pleased that i named to the rule after him. [laughter]

the buffett rule, which is common sense. it says if you make more than $1 million per year, he should not pay lower tax rates and your secretary. -- you should not pay lower tax rate than secretary. [applause] if you make $250,000 a year or less, which is 98% of americans, your taxes should not go up. a lot of folks are struggling. for people like me, we can do a little bit more. i know. you know. this is not class warfare. this is not enzi. and this is basic math. -- this is not envy. this is basic math. if we are getting tax breaks, that will either add to the deficit, which the other side claims as their top priority, or we have to take something

from somebody else. that student who is trying to go to college, suddenly there interest rates go higher. that senior trying to afford their drugs, their costs go up. that veteran who desperately need help right now, they get shortchanged. that family trying to get by, they are forgotten. that is not right. that is not who we are. a lot of politicians are talking about values in election years. some of the advertisements have been talking about that here in illinois. let me tell you about values. hard work is a value. [applause] looking out for one another is a value. [applause] the idea we are in this together, i am my brother's keeper and my sister's keeper. that is a value. [applause] caring for our own, that is a

value. [applause] making sure that seniors can retire with dignity and respect, that is a value. [applause] making sure our -- are veterans are cared for. that is a value. [applause] you understand that. one of the great things about this town is that we come from everywhere. i guess you cannot look in a phone book because they do not have them -- [laughter] -- but when you think about chicago, what you think about is all the last names. obama, emanuel, sanchez -- will come from someplace else.

the only reason that we can be in the spring of this and ballroom is -- we can be in this magnificent bottom is because somebody took responsiblility for their families, and generations of immigrants making sure that they were leading something behind for the next generation. our grandparents and great grandparents, striking out. sometimes falling down, taking themselves back up. they took responsibility for our country's future. they understood the american story is never about just what we can do barker -- by ourselves. we will not written -- we will not win the race with the same old you are on your own economics because it has not worked in the past and it will not work now. [applause] it did not work in the last decade. it is not like we have not tried it. it does not work.

we have to have a stake in each others success. we all understand that. [applause] if we attract enough -- an outstanding teacher to the profession, giving her the pain she deserves and support she deserves and she educates the next jobs -- steve jobs, we all benefit. we get faster internet so that some brinklow can have access to a worldwide market place -- some entrepreneur can have access to a worldwide market place. workers, consumers, we all do better. this is not a democratic or republican idea. lincoln understood. teddy roosevelt understood. eisenhower built the interstates.

fdr gave heroes the chance to go to college on the gi bill. [applause] here is the thing -- that same spirit, the desire to pull the country together and focus on what means -- would need to get done come in a serious way, that still exist today. maybe not in washington. it exists here in chicago. it exists in america. you go to main street, town hall, at church, synagogues, it is there. it is there when you talk to the armed forces and folks at

baseball games or places of work chip -- worship. our politics may be divided, but most of their and since -- most americans understand that we are graded together in a matter who we are, we rise or fall as one nation. that is what is at stake. that is what is at stake. in this election. that is what we are fighting for. as much as 2008 was exciting and as much as all of us, i think, saw that night at grand park as the combination of something, it was just the beginning of what we are fighting for. that is what 2012 is about. i know it has been a tough few years. people have said, change is not coming fast enough.

when you see what is going on in washington, it is tempting to believe that what we believe in in 2008 was an illusion. maybe it is not possible. it is easy to slip into cynicism. remember what we said in the last campaign. the real change, big change, would be hard. it takes time. it might take more than a single term. it might take more than a single president. what it takes is ordinary citizens who are committed to continuing to fight and push to keep inching this country closer to its ideals. i said in 2008, i am not a perfect man. i will never be a perfect president.

i made a commitment then that i would always tell you what i believed and i would always tell you where i stood. i will wake up every day fighting as hard as i know how for you. i have kept that promise. [applause] to the american people. [applause] so, i am a little grayer now. [laughter] it is not as trendy to be involved in the obama campaign as it was back then. [laughter] some of you rolled up those posters and they are in a closet somewhere. [laughter] but i am more determined and confident that what drove us in

2008 is the right thing for america than i have ever been before. [applause] i want to keep pushing for the obstacles and reach for that vision of america that we all believe then. i promise you change will continue to come and if you work as hard as you did then, now, i promise you we will finish what we started in 2008 and we will be the greatest nation on earth. [applause] thank you. god bless. god bless the united states of america. [applause]

>> qnexa ... a lot "washington journal." -- next call in your calls of " washington journal." >> i was quite a radical as a young person and i was the one that thought that it, you know,

saying we should overcome was really not a very effective way of gaining civil rights and i think that more confrontation was needed. >> economics professor walter williams on being radical. >> i believe that a radical is any person who believes in personal liberty and individual freedom and limited government. i have always believed that i should be able to do my own thing is so long as i do not violate the rights of other people. >> sunday night at 8 eastern and pacific on c-span's "q &a." >> this morning, the national chairman of the republican national committee and president of young democrats of america of young democrats of america discuss the role of young