you look at where delta is, where united is, consolidation has really helped, but we have helped ourselves, so we have among the most competitive cost structures and most efficient operations in the world. but we have to have policy that supports the growth of the industry. this is an important industry. it generates more jobs than manufacturing.

you always hear all of us talk about experts. we pay a greater sales tax on tickets than you paid for gun, alcohol, or cigarettes. the tax burden is 20's term. we have -- 20%. we have a lot of talk that we will increase that. all this does is cause us to pay for it. we did not run this institution. it has to be put in the ticket price. capacity will come out. there is a cause and effect between these two things. the most remarkable thing is air fares are probably the best one day at have over the last 30 or 40 years.

they are down 30% or for the%. it continues to be a phenomenal value. we all take this for granted. competition policy, we've only recently been able to get a merger approved. boeing gets to by douglas, go manufacturers to one. when the engine manufacturers get together they do a joint ventures so we only have one engine choice. there is consolidation all around the industry. all these people have 8% nortons are margins. -- 8% or 10% margins.

we got this done. if you look back and all the prognosticators, they proposed a from mergers and the get the data, they will tell you this is a super competitive industry and will remain for a number of reasons. we have the ease of entry. nonstops can pete perfectly. we still have antitrust analysis. it is the same methodology, at the same work. even now we have three different networks. there are different forms of distribution. it is a different world then where we were 30 or 40 years ago. we ought to have a worldwide

scheduling died. we should have a much different view of competition policy. our competitors certainly are around the world. china has three major airlines. europe has three major airlines. latin america as quickly going down to two major airlines. as you look around the world, what governments are realizing is they have to take care of their carriers. in order to participate in one of the most important sectors in our economy. we had a good look at that. we looked at the ash cloud. if shutdown because we could not operate 65 flights a day between the u.s. and europe. it is an incredibly important

part of commerce. which have policies that support it. -- we should policies that support it. we have instances that are a reflection of how the chicago convention work that do not work for us. we do not have a fair trade mechanism. let's take an example. if the european governments gave airbus $9 million, what do you think would happen? do you think we would have a trade war? we have had that happen in the airline industry. we do not even think about that. instead we have an open skies negotiation. the u.s. gets for flights for

all of its carriers in the middle of the night. we have to route them to distribute the four flights that will land in the middle of the night. we need a component in here that has our government understand the importance of aviation trade. it is a massive positive in the balance of trade. when we negotiate aviation treaties, we do not have a fairness mechanism. we are not advocates on behalf of our industry when we meet other countries to have trade negotiations over aviation. not the way we do under the wto. nextgen, delta's block time in 1956 flights between atlanta and dc 6'sgton national in cd 6'

is the same time it is now. our time has not changed. i was 1 years old. it has not changed since i was one year old. we talk about nextgen and we need to make the investment, but it has got to be real. we have been down the road with n.s , two area navigation system. future area, navigation systems. we need to get this done in a prompt way. this is an answer to the

emissions problem we face over time. the way we can do that, we could save 15% fuel burned by using the technologies that many of you have done such a great job of developing for us. we need the commitment from the manufacturer and from the faa that it will be implemented and used. if you think about this whole other panoply, there is a whole nother panoply of general regulation. it is extremely difficult to get the says -- visas to travel to our country. he did a fabulous job on a committee that a number of us participated on. it is a whole series of recommendations of how to have a waiver program, a short wait

times. let's make our lines short. john pistol has done a good job. we make flying easy. we may find easy for people. we make it easy for people who want to come in and visit this country. there will be a natural. as the industry evolves the way evolve,sumer industries of of look at the options to buy an automobile or computer. more and more merchandising is going to be this propensity to regulate more. we should avoid that. let customers decide whether

they like to travel on an airline that charges for overhead space. it is just another product in the market. consumers have more perfect information about buying this than any other industry in the world. the search engines that have to give every consumer virtual shelf space on every single price option availability for any tickets virtually anywhere in the world any time. let the consumer decide they are smart. everyone has their map. let's avoid the propensity to go in and say we have to regulate this are we are going to prohibit certain types of activities. i think overall in the industry, and i can give you a lot of examples, we have to evolve to

where we understand whether the regulation is really adding. is it really improving safety or transparency or a policy that we really like? we still file a lot of the same forms we file in 1978. we ought to always be thinking about are we adding regulations that work or matter or is it just more paperwork? i would be remiss giving the controversy are around xm bank. our purpose there is really narrow. we would not be raising the issue if it did not really hurt us. it does. if you do not believe me, i cannot convince you otherwise. and why it really hurts is when

you buy an airplane, you try to build a model of a 30 year financial. in that model, you have to put the capital costs. when you buy $150 million airplane, if you put in your third year cash flow 4 billion a year per interest over every year over 30 years or 1 million a year for interest every year over a 30 year time frame, do you think that will change? it is just as fundamental as that. our focus is narrow. we do not object to that kind of financing. we do not object to this. how do i compete against people that have a $4 million advantage

on january 1 of every year? i certify that airplane. that is what happens. i've got to triple seven. you by the airplane, that everything is going well. he spent $300 million to buy the two airplanes to serve india. a carrier comes in a government sponsored airline and take you out of the markets. their pricing $300 or $400 a ticket below you. -- they are pricing $300 or $400 a to get below you. how would you do this? a ticket below you.

? yet thesewith this ta are my alliance partners. i'm not going to mention them. they tell me what it is like. we need a narrow answers to how we make up that gap. what we propose was transparency through analysis of what the impact is and help us figure out what the challenges. please, do not dismissed the challenge that i am telling you we have as the largest international airline in the united states. fuel discussion? i'm not talking about refineries. just to put everyone on notice. we do not think in the right way

about fuel. if you are at fed ex or ups or your local one, they have a big component in their business, led to. their business model covers their input costs. let's not be a victim of fuel. iif it is for the% of your costs structure, you cannot just say it is not in your control. then you have given up on free will at that point. we have been about changing our model to be much better at hedging and buying fuel. our last published quarterly or at $2.96 a gallon. most competitors were at 30 cents higher.

that is a lot of money. a lot of investments in the wing glyphs and much more efficient flying. we are not relying on any governments to finance those for us. we tried to pay cash for most of them. we do have to make sure our capacity planning and our distribution covers the cost of fuel. we have determined that there are three important constituencies that will make the airline it successful. that is what we are thinking we are thinking about how it is successful 10, 20, 30, 40 years from now. lacher we distributed over $300

million -- last year we distributed over $300 million. every employee that extra play paycheck. we do not think the future is to seek concessions from your employees that make them partners. we have to take care of our customers and the people that give us the $26 billion in capital that we have at work and our airline. fuel is an independent variable. we will be much more successful enterprise over the new constituencies the matter. that brings me to the conclusion. i do not want to have her shoot me. i thought i would read you the statutory objectives of the

united states department of transportation. they aren't adequate profits and attractive capital. -- bay earned adequate profit and attracted capital. at least ensure equality with foreign air carriers for u.s. carriers. eliminate discrimination and unfair competitive practices face by united states airlines. the lot is on the books -- the law is on the books. i hope we would bring this to the communities in manufacturers and all the constituencies that we would all get behind in search and a national airline policy becomes our priority. if you look back over the

history, we have too great examples in our country of similar transportation. the shipping industry we do not have any more. we made a decision that we're not going to be in the maritime industry any more. we do not really have shipyards anymore. it has had a significant impact. oil rigs are ships. on the positive side, we have the railroad industry. it was facing a pretty cataclysmic situation 25 years ago. i have one of the pioneers here on my board. he is the chairman and ceo for years and years. he guided his railroad through that. the congress decided to pass the

act that established a national railroad policy. now we have a loud consolidation. there are two roads east and west of the mississippi. we have among the lowest real rate and ties reliability of any rail system in the world. -- and highest reliability of any rail system in the world. it is not about grants for a -- grants or aid or anything like that. it is about setting up structured to give what the competitors overseas have. it is a fair shot. if we get a fair shot, we win. that, a few questions or am i done? >> i am going to take advantage

of the opportunity and as the first one. this afternoon, marion is leading an interesting panel on unmanned space flights, nonmilitary. i would like your thoughts on whether or not we're going to flights thatspace would obviously need your knowledge. >> not in my lifetime i do not think. when i heard the other folks talking about that on the panel right before, it brought to mind something. a week and a half ago, i get all these females and pages when you run an airline. -- e-mails and pages when you run in airline. there were really high cross

winds. we fly a lot there. they were right at the minimum crosswinds. it is near gale force. he kept dropping below. one of our crews missed two approaches. they shot an alternate approach into another airport. i was pretty glad there were two captains on the flight. i was proud of how they handled it. that made me, for some of these young people that are video players, i like a couple of delta captains. >> he said the same thing. >> i should get points for that. where is he? >> he better still be here. how about questions from the

floors? ? does that mean he answered all of your questions? wii thank you so much. -- we thank you so much. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> be discussed and air traffic modernization system of protecting the industries' intellectual property against cyber attacks. of aintroduced by the ceo u.s. bank. this is hosted by the u.s. chamber of commerce and the national chamber foundation. it is 30 minutes. >> this has touched upon many of the key technologies that they continue to provide including

as ours as the versdiverse partner with the g ge. we will continue this tradition into the future. the company is producing wire panels for a wide diversity of platforms that include the 737 's and v22's. [inaudible] we will continue that long tradition of providing the technologies to boeing products. his distinguished career includes many of the programs

that this industry thrives upon. things as averse as global supply and support. -- as diverse as global supply and support. this career has spanned everything from basic engineering to program management and leadership. now it is a senior executive position. it is a pleasure and honor that i introduce to you dennis enburg. >> good afternoon. it is a pleasure to be with you here today. i enjoyed this partnership. thank you for that. i would like to thank the u.s. chamber of commerce and foundation for this opportunity to be here today in what you're doing for our country.

we of knowledge are well deserved -- we acknowledge your well-deserved information. we have the opportunity to work back together in the days of now is working air traffic management. very good to see all of you. a lot of other friends and familiar faces. he may be wondering why the leader of boeing's defense business is here today given that this is often a commercially focused summit. i am not here to the necessarily ask for your help on the defense budget. if you would like, i would be happy to take any questions on that later. i am here to talk about where we see some very important intersections between what we do

in the defense business and the commercial business and some of our collective interests. that is where i would like to spend my time. on a personal note, the commercial business is very familiar. i had the opportunity to work for boeing for 26 years. i have spent a good amount of time working on the commercial side of our business. that included work on some of our new airplane development programs, such concepts as high- speed civil transport and the opportunity to head of engineering in program management for boeing. to that is the place where i met many of you. it is so good to reconnect with many of you. that is one area that i will delve into in a little more detail. it is important to recognize that i not only have an appreciation for those challenges, but we see a lot of

common challenges and common interests between the defense and commercial. many of the technologies that make air travel possible, things like radar and gps, and had their origination in defense and space programs and have now transition to commercial. there are a few questions in four areas that i would like to touch upon. the first is in nextgen and what we need to do to make that a reality. the second topic is a round cyber security and the threat to the networks we rely on. thirdly, how do we move the biofuels from today's demonstrations to being fully implemented and used in a manner that is productive for industry and our customers? lastly, the pipeline and our collective interest. this can resonate with all of

us. it certainly is all connected. i think sometimes our public policy as a country perhaps is the recognize that connection. we have for to do as a country on that front. competing nations understand it. they understand this is connected. they're not sitting on the sidelines. they're not trying to fight over turf. they are investing in the idea that their future depend on it. it does. i argue that america's future depend on it as well. aviation supports 56 million jobs. everyone at american to win these jobs, we have work to do -- if we want america to win these jobs, we have work to do. i have ways that we can speak with one voice and that we can partner between industry and government. when we look at defense or commercial, face similar

challenges and economic uncertainty and logical and innovation -- in logical innova tion. we have a strategy. i can tell you from boeing's standpoint, we understand we are in a challenging defense environment. it is something we anticipated and have been implementing our strategy over the years. while we have challenges, we understand our game plan. i am concerned that when we look at america's game plan for aviation, that strategy does not really exist. i am not talking about a formal industrial policy. i am talking about an industrial strategy, thoughtful and competitive. in the world is changing. we need to adapt.

otherwise i fear that america will wake up tomorrow and we will not be the later -- leaders and aviation we are today. but sick a few moments to look at these areas. -- let us take a few moments to look at these areas. i had the pleasure of having a leadership in boeing. i can recall the summer of 2000. many of you do. we remember the environment in the commercial flight networks. we remember the capacity of the system. we remember the reliability of flight times and the system overall. the 9/11 happened. a overnight we went from an emphasis on capacity to an emphasis on security. over the last decade, some improvements have been made in the security of the system. those are needed and still need it. we have not made as much progress on efficiency and

capacity as we need to make. this is not so much about the technology as it is about the political alignment and the will to implement. i think we all understand that there are some benefits. it will make air travel faster. it will make it safer and greener. it represents the greatest opportunity to reduce the fuel burn. it would reduce delays by 21% and greenhouse gases by 20%. boeing spend billions of dollars in new product lines. the investment that has been made will derive efficiency and reduce emissions with a 20% improvement on that front. with a similar investment in nextgen, u.s. can make all airplanes up to 12% more

efficient. think about the implications that has to our leadership. what is needed to achieve that? after 23 extensions the faa was filing reauthorize. many of you worked hard to make that happen. that is a positive thing. this battle that he referenced on funding instability, it is important. we need stakeholders to pursue alternative financing rather than traditional appropriations. the administration must've forward with an implementation program. i know this has always been a hurdle. government needs to encourage technologies so that boeing and others are already providing that will fit with nextgen. these costs government and taxpayers next to nothing other than the political will and an effort to implement them

expeditiously. need to start providing incentives region by region for aircraft operators to be nextgen equipped. it is the base snowball effect around the world that will lead to full implementation. this is too important for us not to accomplish this task. there is the introduction of unmanned systems. this is a technology area we are working on. this is something that's nextgen will allow. it will allow american to stand on the leading edge. i would like to move to cyber security.

better collaboration is required. we are more dependent on the networks than ever to control everything from energy to finance. the damage could have serious consequences for national security and for our economy. the threats are constantly changing. this could become a compromise networked. we need to invest in protecting our critical infrastructure. i could argue that the air- traffic system is one of the most critical things in that critical infrastructure. imagine if somebody phacked into the system. and the economic impact of all portions were shut down for those kind of reasons. we simply cannot afford that. they need to know that the messages they are receiving, the information on their displays are accurate.

coordinated efforts can answer the integrity of the information. no one of us has all the answers. we each have a role to play. industry can bring technical expertise. a boeing we are investing in that area. we recently opened up the cyber engagement center. it is an area where customers can come in and test their cyber security strategies. the government has been working in establishing standards to secure critical networks and to coordinate efforts globally. cyber threats are continuously evolving. it demands partnership. this is a very important manner.

the third area i like to touch on briefly is by officials. they reduce the carbon footprint by 50%. it is a very good goal. the pentagon is working to derive 25% of its energy from renewable resources by 2025. the u.s. now onavy is reducing renewable resources. the navy is very much pushing the leading edge. by officials can help us reach those goals. when the defense calls makes big commitments like the navy has made, it can be a down payment on progress on the civilian side. it can help us drive the capacity that we all need. to be successful, by a feels need to be dropping. boeing aircraft as well as those

of our competitors have been involved in by a field testing. we have been doing that since 2008. we flew in on a by a fuel on. in addition, we see the military moving forward with by a full implementation as well. in december, the secretary of navy and agriculture announced of by a fewpurchaser o in history. in 2010, the navy flew a.c. performance -- flew a super hornet. it is allowing us to have the implementation of by officials. there is unlimited use on high

hybrid processed by a feels. they have regular jet fuel. just last year, we flew the first apache air force on by a fuel. it was the first in the world to use the fuel system. advances are being made here. i would argue that we can work more closely. perhaps the most important of the four is one that underscores the other three. consider that according to aia, the bases added smallest since world war ii. -- the base is at its smallest since world war ii. looking ahead, there are not

enough young people pursuing technical degrees. only five% of american bosses degrees are in engineering. this is no different than any other basis then we're looking for opportunities. we have read dr. them to support commercial development activities. there are opportunities for making the sky every deployments. we have done the same thing in our space sector. it has come to a premature end.

we have moved some of our space engineers to work on commercial aircraft. just as we're able to move people around, that is at the only thing we can do to retain talent. we need to be thoughtful about how we build the pipeline for the future. one of the ways we are doing that is by tapping in a rich source of talent in resources. about 16 some of boeing's employees are veterans. that is not just happen. we actively recruit because the leadership skills they bring. i know many are moving forward was similar initiatives. these are great american said denigrate things for -- americans to have done great

things for our country. this is another way to build on for our future. when we design a new airplane, we think about the entire life cycle of that product line. we think about people, skills, and the talent pipeline. we need to think about the same life cycle. let me give you one small example. each year 4 million children enter preschool in the united states. 250 of them will complete algebra in their junior year. ninth term will declare a stem a major. only 4.5% will graduate with a stem degree. only 1.7% will graduate with and an engineering degree. that is woefully short of what our industry alone needs let alone all engineering categories. we simply have an insufficient

talents pipeline. without a life cycle approach that looks at investing in the front end, they can expand and grow and have a successful life cycle careers come without that we will not be successful. it is important that we all participate in this process. one good example is a robotics program. let me give you one data point you will find enjoyable. if you serve a young people today, 84% of american kids in the 11-13 age range would rather clean their rooms, eat their vegetables, go to the dentist than do their math homework. having a couple of youngsters a my own, i can vouch for that data.

something to consider. one way we get them interested is in programs like first robotics. i know many of you are involved in that. this is one example of a program that is a hand on program that gets kids interested in their ability to become scientists and engineers and the technology driven. it has opened up career options for those who make that technology is not an option for them. there are many other programs like this. we can all invest. in closing, whether it is air traffic management, cyber security, are biofuel, industrial base, and these are big challenges. together we can solve these challenges. a country will only move ahead if we band together.

more importantly, it is the human challenge of realizing that we are all in this together. that is the hardest part to solve. to bring us together in a political and financial framework that allows us to be successful. we must do that for the sake of our country and security. i believe we can. just to wrap up, i want to tell you one final story. last year i had the privilege of bringing my children to a special salons -- to a space sh. if he had been there before, my favorite spot to watch it is from an area called banana creek. at this point, my son was 9

years old and my daughter who is 6, i the privilege of watching the last night much. this was right that the setting sun was still casting a glance on the space station as it came across the sky. a few minutes after they departed, the shuttle lifted off the rendezvous. we stood there watching the shuttle lighting up the night sky. it is amazing. it is literally lighting up the sky. i felt a rumble coming up the water. that was a great moment. it is a memorable moment. they had the u.s. space program and all of the things that have

come out of that program. it may also be a little bit reflective without a clear forward view of what is next. it reminded me of the inspirational nature of what we all do. nothing is more inspiring the what we do in aviation. it is a way for us to engage that future talent pipeline. i think we need that same inspired mine said if we're to take on some of the challenges that talked about earlier. the if we're going to retain america's leadership in aviation, we need that same inspired mine said to have that commitment. i think that is fundamentally important to our future. it is an area that we all have a combined interest in. it is what we have a collective responsibility for.

thank you. i'll be happy to take any questions you have. any questions out there? we have time. right there. >> in terms of your leadership, how concerned should we be about the many u.s. companies that, due to pressure from the chinese government, have had to enter into joint ventures with chinese companies and state-owned enterprises. as a practical matter, what do

you think the united states is doing about that? >> in bounce approach is required. he mentioned intellectual property. our capacity to succeed is based on our intellectual once. they need to be done in a mindful way. we know that intellectual property is being threatened. i think we need to be reflective of that. it is important to recognize that our industry is a global industry. our supply chain is a global supply chain. we need to be able to complete globally. this includes our ability to bring the best capabilities to

our customers. that is what they demand. sometimes it gets interested as building jobs. i would argue that these are good for jobs parent we need to be leaders on building global partnerships. >> i have one in the back there. inits we're facing engineering a shortage, are you prepared to import engineers? >> many universities are graduating university students from other countries.

we need to access and the talents around the world. for companies like boeing, our talent is not only in the u.s.. we do have major operations around the global. let's not enter this as a win/lose situation. we also get more jobs. this is very doable as long as a cent our mind to it. >> no. mentioned the importance of biofuel. as you know, we work with the

founding a lot of the coalition's out there. we have this concern that a number of strong defenders of defense and readiness on the hill do not believe in aviation by official story. what can we do to turn this around? >> there are still some very vocal and strong supporters. i believe the supporters are growing over time. the detractors are shrinking. i believe we need to succeed by example and by showing technology is doable. we can do it in a drop in a manner. it can build a distribution channels we know we need.

this is a good answer. it is good from a security standpoint. it is the right answer for the long run. we need to build coalitions over time. we cannot be successful on any of these four areas without building a broad industrial government partnerships that are required to make it a reality. i think by officials as one of those examples. we just need to continue to push forward with force. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> next, a discussion on media coverage of racial issues. remarks by lee said jackson.

>> samara, and government reform hearing examining the administration. if he tells a hundred $23,000 in spending related to a 2010 convention. when this is include bryan miller -- witnesses include bryan miller and mark said johnson. the national action network's convention held a forum friday focusing on the coverage of race issues. the participants included print, radio, tv journalists. this is one hour and 20 minutes. >> good morning.

welcome to the national convention. we are very honored the you have joined us today for our annual media panel. we have quite some heavy hitters. this convention has been stellar. we kicked off our convention on wednesday. we have been joined so far by kathleen sebelius as well as hilda solis. we have been joined by the education secretary arne duncan. we were joined on wednesday by the family of trayvon martin as the news was broken.

>> good morning. thank you. i would ask that as they come, they come in quietly. many of you around the country, we thank you for your meetings. we wanted to start on time. we're very happy that all of us have the time from the schedule. let me introduce the panel as they are seated. of what is to be clear.

i am a firm moderator. i am not going to let you go from the subjects. this is a very serious subject for all of us. that is how we deal with the issue of race during this year where we deal with the issues but not in a way that would polarize the country in an eerie parable way. we do not want to explain it to the point where there is a disrepair in the country that we all have to live with. i want to see many of you particularly our southwest d.c. people involved in the early days of the trayvon movement.

and into the kind of polarizing issue. we still have the first big rally. there is the national review. they came out with an article same sharpton is right. this is the first time i was right. this almost seems ancient. the right in the life are behind. how do we deal with this issue with that of becoming that polarizing? is even possible? only go here, this is not an opportunity for you to critique the media.

this is not about this. this is not dealing with that. i am introducing them city in a good day are. we have the national director of hispanic journalists. [applause] we have george curry of georgecurry.com. and a writer for the "chicago tribune." he is now also the national

correspondent. george withto have us. we have a pro ryan. we have dana milbank of the washington post. to my far right is mitchell. next to her we have alfred the third.

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>> this is real life. you do choose -- you did not choose to become famous. this was thrust upon you. we're talking about real people -- ordinary people who may be watching this show. it could happen to them. >> that is right. this could happen to anybody. my message is live life to the fullest. love everyone like it is your last day. you never know what your neighbor is going through orifices the last time you will see them. this movement is important to

the families, the committees, to the world. >> we will be right back. questions and comments from the panel. stay with us. [applause] >> all right. welcome back. we're talking about what happened in 2006. in a new york, it is happening today. let's the to the audience and make this family. give us your name at what happened to your son. >> by david is constance malcolm. the cops came into my home illegally. the shot him in the chest and

kill him. >> this happened earlier this year. >> the 22nd. >> the broke into the home and killed seven the bathroom in front of his younger brother. how old is his brother? >> 6 years old. >> there were watching him and his grandmother. >> yes. >> give us your name, attorney. >> i want to make sure the facts are very clear as we know it. this is a young man who was 18 years of age. he was unarmed. he was walking to his apartment, to his son to be with his grandmother and his little brother. whereupon police entered, illegally, and killed him in his bathroom. what is important in this case here and we have seen in florida is that, as a people, we can see

the apple does not fall far from the tree. we have those out here who are in law enforcement positions. they see how police treat people of color with excessive force and abuse. those people who take on the law enforcement positions and acts out. you have an incident like a trayvon martin. what to expect to happen? when people see where police of as are doing in our community. this is being investigated. there are a lot of investigations but there's not been a presentation to the grand jury for an indictment to come down. hopefully, with your help and the community support, we can see that come true. >> here we have, in 2012, police case in new york and around the

country. trayvon martin does not even a policeman. not even a registered watchmen. gets, there are those who say we are in a post-racial era are we no longer need civil-rights. -- yet, there are those who say we are in a post-racial era and we no longer need civil-rights. we sought its in oakland. and what we see in that trayvon martin. the same information on the problem of probable cause that the prosecutor used that night and they did not arrest the zimmerman. there was no smoking gun that she had that they did not have. how do we deal with this problem? >> it is a great question, reverend. the issue that connects the stores and a powerful way is racial profiling. you have it both with law

enforcement and with trayvon martin you had a private civilian who was engaged in the same process of being judged on race and nothing more. the issue, of course, here, is that the state level. the n.c.a.a. pete -- this has been an ongoing effort now for over one decade. at one point, even george w. bush recognized the name -- the need for it but 9/11 made it hard to get the results. men and women of goodwill, regardless of their risk, have to focus at this level to make sure racial profiling is prohibited as a law enforcement

tactic. in that too many incidents reseed the damage the results and our failure to control it. >> how do we make a federal law and then enforce the law about racial profiling, whether it pertains to police or civilians? >> there has to be consequences. at some point, on the state, federal, and local level, we have to deal with the standard of feeling afraid. a black man is not synonymous with danger or violence. at some point, we have to address that. [applause] the black caucus members have commended the doj on their investigation of trayvon martin. that is how we do it. >> i like the point you made about fear.

berlin police go to jail, when we send people to jail, -- when we send a police -- when we see police go to jail, when we send people to jail, even if we get angry and say we will take the matters in our own hands, that is easy. a fight for a fight. but when the system starts making people pay for it, that is when things will change. >> absolutely, reverend. absolutely. a lack of consequences. we need to make sure that there are consequences. the critical point. the other thing is, it is important in jackson we got rid of a chief justice. he stood on the bench for a while until the bar association

of african-american lawyers, with us and then got in touch with the qualifications committee and took him down. the effort karen american bar association's around the country into -- the african american bar association's need to be engaged around the country. >> i am wondering if -- >> you are from? >> i am from southern maryland. i am wondering if anybody in the legislature has done anything to introduce information as it relates to -- is terrorism. what happens in our communities, the way they go into our communities and profile our black men. that is terrorism. [applause] the way they are shooting them, several times is is terrorism. that is a hate crime.

a bottom line is, we're looking at them patrolling our neighborhood but acting as terrorist to our young, black men. [applause] >> quick response before we go to break. >> to contrasts -- to address the response, i want to make it clear that our members represent less than 10% of the u.s. house of representatives and even less than that when you consider the other side of the chamber, which is the senate. what i encourage everyone in this room to do and everyone watches the show is to get out and vote so we have representation for the very issue that you raise. our members worked diligently but they could certainly use some support. >> we will continue this conversation know we come back.

>> welcome back. we're talking rather how to turn the tragic death of trayvon martin into a movement. all on our panelists, the deputy director of the national action network. the president and ceo of the civil and human rights. the national chair of the congress of black women. the president and ceo of the national coalition of black and civic participation. the president and ceo of the national association for equal opportunity and higher education. and the northeast regional director of the use of votes for the national action network. [applause]

let's go back to the audience. >> injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. we in a chicago are dealing with the howard morgan situation who was shot 28 times by for rookie of white police officers. he was sentenced to 40 years in prison. >> wait a minute. he was shot 28 times, he was hit 28 times? >> he was shot 21 times in the back. he was sentenced on intimidation, bowling, and terrorism. on the threat he was trying to shoot the police officers. the judge who we are educating our people on wanted to give him 135 years and of giving him 40. this man was shot 21 times in the back and six times in the front and one time in the head and he still lived.

he is living long enough to tell the story. we're also dealing with a 22- year-old girl who was shot by police of the service. i just spoke to her funeral last week. we're also dealing with a young man, police came into the house and shot him dead. we are dealing with terrorism, intimidation, and the bullying of the police officers across the nation. how are we doing this? we are educating. incarceration is not a key. would it not want any vigilantes'. we want justice. [applause] >> ok.

>> thank you. i want to commend you for how you bring women forward and show people that we have a lot of women leaders in this country. [applause] in law there is a principle that violence gives consent. too often we give consent to our own demise. we as leaders have a responsibility to connect the dots for our people when someone is not supporting us on worker'' rights, on women's rights. we call upon all of our friends to be with us. sometimes, we just call upon the congressional black caucus. been that the only ones we give votes to in this country. we should give -- we devotes too many people. we cannot give them the whole burden. when we get angry, we cannot just be emotional. we have to put action behind that. every time you get angry, you see god and register another person to vote. the to speak up on someone's

behalf. we to take a lesson from trayvon's mother who is totally focused on getting justice for her son. [applause] >> all right. i ask the panel a question. since the election of president obama, i have seen the racial climate get even more intense. do you think that a lot of the attacks and the depiction of the president's has been based on race and has brought on it -- brought out a lot of racial feelings that have been under the surface but now people are just coming out more blatant with it? >> yes. thank you it so much for the question. hour to join my colleagues in thanking you for your leadership. certainly, there's not been a

time in history when the president in the free world has been disrespected to the extent of our president from the opening of his first hit of the union, one a member of congress yelled from the floor, liar, to the president as the free world as he was putting before the nation his vision to supreme court justices who of called him out of his name. the other leadership of this country has given permission for folks to disrespect the president of the free world. it is not a question of whether people agree with his policies. this is the fact he is in the office of the head of the free world. never before has anybody disrespected us of the office to that extent. heavily this is racially based. america's black colleges, we're doing something about it.

whether you're talking about mr. morgan who would assert a question about him, we have six law schools. one here and one at howard university. one of the district of columbia. we have another law school in town where mr. henderson is a professor. our law schools are in the resources where we have people who are trained. how do make the constitution, live and work for justice. if you look at the social justice movements in america, all of them have either been spawned from or have the false. we have a critical role. we're committed to turning this pain into a movement.

>> i want to echo my admiration and love for you. i every year report out of atlanta. there is definitely an attack on our babies, on our children. these cases are awaiting decisions. 19 years old, shot twice in the back by union city police. unarm. and not a cellphone, not a wallet. however you mentally challenged patient. the mental capacity of a 10 year-old. shot 17 times, hit a five. all of these unarm. to make it even worse, the

latest case has come through involves two of our own. black individuals or security guards who were out of their jurisdiction of the apartment there were patrolling. shot and killed an unarmed 19 year-old and have been charged now with impersonating a police officer and not the death of the individual. >> this is a national problem. goingked about what we're to do about it. we have got to turn this pain into how we empower and engage in our community. we will continue this conversation after the break. [applause]

[applause] >> welcome back. he was just 23 years old when his life was taken by new york city cops. he was taking -- here is coming home from dinner when he was shot 41 times when reached his jacket to get his wallet to identify himself. here with this tragic story is his mother. [applause] you are a native of guinea. you were there when you receive the call that your son had been killed. you cannot believe it, right? >> i was there in that morning. i pick up the phone. there was a relative of mine, a cousin who was in york city who

called. it was early in the morning. i said, due to the difference of the time, if someone called about this time and it is not my son, then it could be about my son. >> in your book, "my heart will cross this ocean," you relive this moment. tell us what happened. >> i could not live when i heard my son being killed by a police officer. the only thing i wanted was to reach new york city and county were my son lived and died. i remember traveling back and landing at the airport. watching through the airplane and saying the police cars lined up with flashing lights. i was thinking, what is

happening here? little did i know, the mayor had sent the police to take me off the plane and as a clue where i am -- and seclude where i am and where i would be living and who would meet. that night they took off in a luxurious hotel on fifth avenue. i called one of our relatives to help me get in touch with the community. i was frantic. i did not know what was happening around me. i remembered that night after the rally organized for my son, the movement, when you came to meet with me at the hotel.

i grab your hand and said, i do not want to be here. i want to do with the community. >> let me see this. i do not think she gets enough credit. when she said that, i said, well, we can look out for you, but we can i give the luxurious of the mayor. she said, i want to be with the community and she walked out with us and has never left. [applause] >> lets me say, -- let me say, though, you have to be given the credit of the movement. [applause] when my son was killed, i asked you to help us get justice. we started a journey with you and your family and a movement. i believe it was a long journey. along the journey, many victims

came along. you never tired. you continue to lead the movement. i hope that with the trayvon martin case that we will finally be able to resolve this situation. [applause] >> every case that has come up, you have been right there. you would call me about cases i did not even know about. this has become your life passion. you formed a foundation. why is it so important to you, you could have gone back to guinea, settled. you could have lived relatively comfortable, but you are here. your children have moved here. you were at the forefront of a struggle with your foundation. why?

>> it is a very good question. people think after the camera is gone that the families will just settle and be quiet and a debt a little bit of money and just continue. you will continue to go through this a loss as i am. it is a struggle, but it is a promise that i said to my son -- i am going to fight for you and i will build your legacy. [applause] thank you. most importantly, reverend al sharpton, i promise my son, after i cried, i said to him, i am going to speak to you. one of the panelists talked about racial profiling.

you remember the headlines. the unarmed west african street defender. if this was to suggest that this is a significant person that was gunned down, thank god there were people who came up to tell the world who he was. it is important to continue this legacy. we have problems. we continue to of the same situation. we just saw one family from the bronx in 2012. their son had been shot also. look at this young, beautiful lady, a cast who -- as she does not have a husband and more to help her raise her daughter.

her mother fight and cried, her only child was killed. our life has been changed forever. we will never be the same period don't thing that will give us hope is to know that people care. -- we will never be the same. the only thing that will help is for people to know they care. >> you have never backed up. we are glad you came the other night and talk to trayvon's mother. we'll take a break and go back to the audience questions. thank you. [applause] >> welcome back. let's go back to our audience.

all right. >> good afternoon. my name is kenneth chamberlain, a junior in the son of kenneth chamberlain, senior. for those of you who do not know, my father was shot and killed by white police officers in new york. they were responding to a medical emergency. when he told them that he was ok, they insisted on gaining entry into my father's apartment. when he refused to let the men, they alternately broke down the door after using racial slurs and taunting him, they shot him twice in the chest and killed him. >> to give the people around the country an idea of your father's background. your father was home. they used a racial language, and you say. and they responded to a medical emergency. give us his background in terms of the type of man your father

was and the medical condition he was then. >> just a quick background on my father. he was a retired marine. he was a 20 year veteran of the county department of corrections, retired. he suffered from a heart condition as well as copd. excuse me. >> take your time. [applause] >> is is kind of hard to talk about it because when you think about it, these are individuals who were coming to assist him, a possible mercy call because he may have been in trouble. he told him, when they banged on the door, i am all right. i did not call you. i am ok.

they said, open the door. he said, i do not have to. i did not do anything wrong. i know my rights. >> he was a corrections officer. he knew his rights. >> correct. they used expletives. when he asked, what are you doing this to me? they said, i cannot give an f and then they used the f word. remember, there were not responding to a crime. they responded to a medical emergency. they shot him up four times with a beanbag shotgun before shooting him twice using deadly force. >> this happened when? >> november 19, 2011. >> so these things continue to happen. let me go back to the panel.

you are a young person. as a young person, you decided you wanted to be involved in activism. , you'rein the 1960's not even born. you barely made the 20th- century. [laughter] >> as a young person, it is sad to see all of this happening. a young person should be enjoying their life on the grass, eating ice cream, instead of watching our young black males and our fathers being killed. so that is why i got involved. because i did not want to see that. i wanted to change it. [laughter] >> just so people run the country will know, how old are you? >> i am 12. >> and you will be 13 when? [applause] >> when liu be 13?

>> to 28. > -- june 28. >> talking about dealing with alec, dealing with boating, and dealing with legislation, people should be ashamed with themselves. here is a young lady that is not even a teenager involved. you at home are sitting at home and have nothing. let's go back to the audience. >> hi. i am 13. i am from new york. my mom is on this panel. i personally lost my father to gun violence. how are you bringing young people into activism and can -- how can young people help? >> you can start, victoria. >> there are many different ways to bring young people into activism.

the first thing is, young people have to actually care about what is going on. we have to make young people aware. we have to making people aware of what is going on and there's a running so they can care. -- so they can care. we're making people aware and that is one of the ways young people can be brought into activism. young people have to have a passion to do it. they have to have passion to do it. i know i have the passion to fight for my rights and that is why i'm trying to spread to other young people so they can have the passion to do it. thank you so much for that question. thank you to stand up there and asked that question. [applause] >> it is going to take all of us. one thing i wanted to make clear, we have got to be

involved. you have a 39 -- a 13-year-old with a hoodie. we need to make sure this movement does not die. stay with us. [applause] >> welcome back. universityat howard talking about how we can turn what has become trayvon martin's moment into a civil rights movement. we heard from trayvon's parents, sybrina fulton and tracy martin, we've heard from amadou

diallo's mother and sean bell's mother about how they were shot down in the prime of their lives and justice is hard to come by. we will turn to some of the leaders of our social justice organizations and get some concrete action. not only building this movement, but keeping a moving forward. i will start with you and come down. it may concrete things in the next 12 months that your organization is committed to doing. we've talked about alec, we'll talk about voter, i was specific one, two, three the your organizations are going to do so next year when we meet, we're going to put up what you said and put up what you did. >> in first of all, we will penetrate the state's worst in your ground is active and fight the law to overturn it. where is already law.

>> exactly. we are working on raising the issue of the voter suppression laws and continuing to register voters as the year has gone along. national action network is keeping people engaged on the issue. i will give you a case in point. people did not know the stand your ground existed. we're just finding out about that now. we want to look at the laws, a figure out what is preventing us from having justice and keep people's eyes and ears open to the issue. >> stand your ground laws, voting. >> we're underscoring the accountability. that is a standard we have to apply. one things we're doing is working with our member organizations like the lawyers committee for civil rights under law that has an election protection network that tries to help guarantee that you'll be able to cast your vote. voter id has become a problem

all across the country. we're seeing active efforts to suppress the black vote, the progressive vote. we will have to fight that. the aclu is a part of that. as tamika said, we have to vote -- registered more voters than we have ever done or are impact will be diminished. that is the issue that connects all of these powerful and painful stories we have heard. we will underscore the importance of trying to address racial profiling at the federal level. rest assured, we been pushing this for over a decade. what is likely to make a successful now is the powerful stories we have heard today underscores the importance of really taking action free and we want to translate that anger into political action and accountability. that is why registering to vote, while making sure we establish coalitions with individuals who share our concerns can make a difference. >> voter id and voter

registration. >> last year in florida, we began working on registering more voters, helping to get the vote out. we will continue that with our chapters across the country are for the chapters are already working on stand your ground to have it repealed. we will get our chapters across the country to be more involved in that. we will do what dick gregory advises us, to try to be more lovable than just worrying about being loved. when we are lovable, then we will support our leaders no matter what they're doing. if lesley can do colleges better than we can, we're going to put our help and attention to what they're doing. if wade is acquitted the human rights, we will put our attention and allow him to be the leader there. we do not all have to be up front and center. we will keep telling our members that. support and respect each other when we're working on the same kinds of things. we will continue to push that

every day to our leaders about forming coalitions, coalescing with other people who are doing great things in our communities best interest. >> you have a big microphone and a big footprint. >> the first thing i want to say is i have a 6-year-old grandson and i hope the young lady down at the end likes young man. [laughter] >> w-2 form. >> part of our job is to keep him alive, healthy, and educated because we're will be the men? -- where will be the man that will marry young ladies like this? the first part, the sec commissioner, there were 13,000 restoration's -- fcc

commissioner, there were 13,000 crustaceans and only nine were owned by black man. we must support those that i sharpton is on, emmitt till was killed and there was not a single black correspondent or editor in the united states, so no one was there to tell our story. so we must demand not only support, but we must demand that programmers make sure they program. the second thing i will say, and finally something ron walters said, and that is, who is chairman of the political science department of this school, howard university -- movements require sacrifice. [applause] finally, what i'm saying is, you may not be able to do what sharpton does or what people on

this panel to, but everyone can do something. [applause] >> quickly, because we're running out of time. >> we have 500,000 students across the country and we're working to meld this student days into a potent advocacy network. we're also working through those students to register folks to vote and engage them. we're working with melanie campbell and her civic engagement group and others. we will continue to do that. we're developing a curriculum so we can train students not only in college, but elementary and secondary schools and social justice and nonviolent social change. we're working with the children's defense fund which has freedom schools and all of our communities across the country. the steep -- they teach our students they have extra learning opportunities and

they're steeped in the best of social justice movements. we will continue to work with them. finally, we've had discussions about the possibility of establishing our rev. jesse louis jackson steady on one of the campuses and perhaps having chairs on other campuses around the country. we might have a rev. al sharpton chair, a chair for bill lewis. >> i'm not as old as jesse. [laughter] let's take a break and we will wrap up. thank you. [applause] >> welcome back. let's go to the audience. >> i am from charleston, south carolina. i'm a member of the national action network, an organization i am proud to be in because we're getting things done.

reverend sharpton, what you say to our young men who are tired and frustrated, who have totally lost complete confidence in our justice system, who are tired of being racially profiled, of being gunned down to make it -- to be afraid of being lynched by armed cops in vigilantes'? >> first of all, i say to them it is completely understandable the frustration, completely understandable we want to give up. but we must realize we are fighting a battle of those that never gave up for us. if they before us could take out right lynching where they had no loss the region on the books to protect them, where we have for fathers who had to watch their wives the rate and could not call the cops because the cops had no rights the were bound to protect, and they never gave up because they look for the day we

could do better, then we have got to discipline our frustration and turn it into some organization and mobilization for our children. get frustrated and exposing is what they want us to do. then we fit right into where they can easily declare war on all of us. we have to be smart enough to use our frustration to fuel less rather than defeat us. [applause] >> good afternoon, everyone. i am from baltimore city, maryland, the couple of police brutality. i want to know, will this panel support the obstruction of justice charges against the police department in florida and other police departments around the country? there's a conspiracy to obstruct justice. >> all right, we will go to the panel.

>> will you go along with boycott in florida this year on the basis of the stand your ground law and boycott until the repeal the law this year? no justice, no peace. [applause] >> actually, my brother, i think we need the complete plans of what we're going to do. our organization calls for not going to florida it even before george olbermann was arrested, organization plan to go to florida even before the george zimmerman arrest. >> i am a junior here and the howard university. i serve as the president of our naacp. my question is about college students and activism. college students are pretty much

the group that leads these missions as far as the numbers, and getting the information out, especially with trayvon martin and the social media. how can we engage more students nationally, specifically college students in this, on panel such as this or any type of movement? >> wade? >> it is a great question. howard is my, modern and i'm proud to be here. what you've seen today are extraordinary young people. victoria who spoke to -- you and the other people who are here that reverend sharpton is giving support to really are a new generation of leaders both now and in the future. it is young people who led the way of our social justice movement is struggling. -- historically. we also have the u.s. student association that are members of the leadership conference and

youth movements of the national action network, naacp, and others need to be coordinated in a nationwide campaign to assist us specifically with this election and these issues at the state and local level. we pledged to make that happen. >> we will be right back with some final thoughts after this. [applause] >> this is all the time we have for this year's leadership conference. some final thoughts from our guests before we go. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. i am humbled and honored to be part of this wonderful event. i would like to ask you, reverend sharpton, you have to promise us -- and i know you will -- help us to fight strong laws that can eradicate racial profiling in this country.

we need that because for the first time, i have to share what happened to amadou, my three grandchildren that are seven years old, triplets. and are living a room,madou's picture is there. they ask me, grandma, where is he? i say he is an angel. but they see me talking about trayvon martin's case. they say, now we know what happened to ouruncle. we need you to help us. i would like to bring the attention of everybody we are a family of victims, a police brutality and racial profiling. we need you to continue even after the cameras are gone to read about what we're doing, where are we. please go on the website of the amadou foundation. we will tell reverend sharpton

soon something i have in my prayers and what i think will happen through our reunion of the family of all of the buttons. >-- families of all of the victims. [applause] >> to everyone who put this together, all of the panelists, this is so important only for trayvon martin, but for sean bell, for ramarley graham, for amadou diallo, to anyone who has lost a loved one to senseless killings, it is important to create dialogue. people are afraid to talk about racism, discrimination. but it is the truth and we are the living witnesses to show you that it is alive. we thank reverend sharpton for continuing to be a strong force

in our fight, and all of our fights, and continuing to stand up for trayvon martin and his entire family. we need more reverend sharptons, people, let's get up. [applause] >> let me thank the panelists and those that have served today. let me thank the audience. let me say to all of you no matter who you are, you have something you can do. we said today we're going to deal with alec, we're going to deal with the stand your ground laws around the country, going to deal with voter id and voter registration. what are you going to do? and findo to web sites out what organizations you can join. you may not like any of what you heard, but whatever you believe,

don't criticize others. tell us what you're doing yourself. don't be a professional critic. be a real activist. the morning i got on the plane headed to sanford, florida, i got word my mother had passed. i started not to go. but then i remember my mother raised me to stand for something. i do not care what criticism i get in and out of the community, i am did what i believe. the question is, what do you believe and what are you going to do? thank you for watching. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012]

>> next, katrina lantos swett. live at 7:00, ""washington journal." the brady campaign against funad violence. at live coverage begins at noon eastern on c-span. it has been nearly 10 years since the release of robert cares third volume of "years of lyndon johnson's crime and a few weeks, the fourth flame will be published. it follows 1982's the path to power. >> this is really a book not just about lyndon johnson, but

about robert kennedy and jack kennedy and interplay of their personalities. it is a very complicated story. i don't think people know. it is to very complicated people. robert kennedy and lyndon johnson. and i had to really go into that and try to explain it because it is part of a story all the way through the end of johnson's presidency. and i suppose, chronologically, at the moment johnson is passing the 1965 voting rights act. in one way, that is sort of where i am up to now critics watch the rest of the interview and other appearances on line at the c-span video library. watch for our upcoming q&a on sunday may 6.

>> this week, katrina lantos swett. she discusses her organization, politics, and her father, the late representative tom lantos of california. >> what do remember most about your father? >> he was a larger-than-life figure. my father and i were very close. i still miss him every single day. to what i remember about him was a kind of profound integrity that he had. the integrity is meeting the same person on the inside and a portrait of the outside.

growing up in that household was fascinating. i have to say that my very first job out of law school was in the senate. there are all these dynamic figures. i remember thinking at the time i am not sure any of these guys hold a candle to my dad. >> let's show the audience to your father was. [video clip] >> prior to my wife's years long campaign, it was almost totally unknown.

>> i owe it to my wife in a yearlong campaign. he saved untold thousands of human lives. he left behind the comfort, safety, affluence of stockholm to go to budapest, to do his utmost to stand between the nazi war machine and tens of thousands of innocent victims. he saved a vast number of them, my wife and myself included. >> he is talking about a humanitarian issue at the height of the nazi occupation of budapest had been a german ally. there occupied by the german.

the final solution was implemented in hungary. budapest is the heart of the country. he came as one of sweden's most powerful families. he could easily put the war in mutual freedom. his only connection to the sport's future victims was his humanity. they call the most from the north. they initiated a number of very innovative efforts to save the lives of many hungarians. he invented a passport which was really nothing more than a

charade, a document that said the bearer of this past has permission from the royal swedish government to immigrate to sweden. it was just a piece of paper, but the piece of paper it say thousands of lives. not only did he do this coming he persuaded many of his colleagues to also begin issuing similar protective passports. he also had safe houses where he hung the swedish flag. he tried to show diplomatic protection to these apartment buildings and then crammed as many people in as possible. my father was able to make his way to the safe house. every so often they would be rated.

he was not there personally to protect and defend the many people who were taken from these houses. it provided a measure of protection. sometimes he would go when he got notified of a train about to leave from the train station, he would go person with his driver. he must've been a man a personal charisma, because he would demand to get on the train. he would demand that he let me on to find them. they often would appeared he would go on to these cars packed with the hopeless and doomed, he was the moses of the north. he would take you with me. some people did. others had nothing but they would pull out a laundry ticket

and he would say yes, this is one of mine. it must've been heartbreaking at the same time. people were only saved a few of the times that time. my parents went to find out what happened to wallenberg. was arrested by the soviets when budapest fell. he disappeared. for many years the russians claimed he had died early on in his custody. in the 1970's, rumors and evidence was leaking out that there was a swede in soviet mental hospitals by the name of wallenberg who said my only crime was saving jews. my mother founded the free wallenberg committee and tried to he