to track and follow not just by law enforcement but individuals who surreptitiously want to follow somebody else. my time has expired, but appreciate being able to work with you. i hope do you find there is a need to clarify the law based on what justice athletea and mr. wine stein have also said about this. so that there's clarity in the f.b.i. and other law enforcement. >> thank you, mr. chaffetz. the gentlewoman from california, ms. lofgren, is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and thank you, mr. director, for being here. you have served your country with tremendous distinction and we are honored by your presence here today. i want to talk about technology. i remember visiting with you and looking at your plans for your new computer system many years ago, and i want to know where we are on that. it started in 2 thod for me with the virtual -- 2000 for me

with the virtual case file. we spent a lot of money, that was abandoned in january of 2005. in 2006 the f.b.i. planned its new sentinal system, we spent a lot of money, over $425 million, that was i guess kind of rescoped in 2008 with an additional $26 million. but it wasn't finished by the target date. in 2009 it was extended again. in july of 2010 the second phase had more problems. and in september of 2010 the agency announce add plan to have the -- announced a plan to have the methodology with a new target completion date of september, which was not met. and then in october there was a, i understand, a bureauwide

test exercise which showed problems, insufficient hardware capacity. and the i.g. gave a report in december that the f.b.i. was still trying to determine the cost of the additional hardware and had delayed its planned deployment until may. it's may now. where are we on this much awaited and extremely expensive system? >> unfortunately i am very aware of that history. can i tell you that it has been one of the most difficult challenges. a couple of things that -- parts along the way that are important. first of all when we first received -- first -- received the first phase, received from the contract the second phase, second phase did not work. we rescoped as you said the contract, much of it in house, and saved a heck of a lot of money and the development applications that we were using.

in september of last year we had the test and we had anticipated as a result of the test that we would put it in place, but what we found is we had to replace the architecture, the infrastructure in order to support it. we have done that now. we are in the final testing phases. and my expectation is this summer we will transfer our data bases over -- some of our investigations over to the new system. >> this summer we are going to hit on it this summer? >> i always knock on wood. >> maybe what i'll do is come over and visit with you again. it's been a number of years to look at the system. >> we would be happy -- >> i want to talk about another technology issue. in your testimony you under going dark i think you talked about a concern that

communication providers are not required to maintain intercept capabilities in their networks. and especially given the wonderful experience with your own technology development i think that raises a few concerns. first, the psychological capability, direct private sector technology. secondary, whether it is your view that the federal government ought to be dictating private sector communication firms including internet providers, what their technology ought to be. and finally a question as you can -- you can guess by my question, i have a deep concern. i think the american public would have a concern about the government building in back doors to the internet because although we want to get the bad

guys, we also value the privacy rights of americans online. if you have considered or aware of the apparent plan of russia and china to take over the governance of the internet from ican which has been engineer driven, multinational, but apolitical since we entered a contract with them in the mid 1990's, there's a meeting in october for the u.n. to take it over with perhaps a more politicized agenda and certainly likely less collaboration with western law enforcement. have you considered that and have had you a role in form lating administration policy on that? >> let me focus on the issue of -- where there has to be an accommodation.

we make a showing to a court that these individuals are engaged in crime. it can be a terrorist. it can be espionage. it can be distribution of child pornography and we need the communications whether it be for an i.s.p. or large corporation, and the court finds a probable cause and directs that corporation to be responsive to that court order requirement. these companies are very wealthy. have not considered at the outset how you they need to be responsive to a court order. what we are seeking is responsiveness to a court order, many of these companies they can afford to do it, and many of these companies that can afford to do it, particularly via the outfit they have an obligation to be responsive to court orders when there is a court order to direct them. so the accommodation we are looking for is the corporations in their own way put themselves in a place n. a position to be responsive to a -- place, in a position to be

samoansive to a court order they can anticipate is coming down the road. how they do that is probably at the issue at the heart of it. i think it's a valid objective, particularly in this day where communications are not done by the telecommunications companies necessarily. they are done by a number of other companies, many of whom are in your district, and we have to have an accommodation so that we get that information we need. we will be behind the eight ball when it comes to terrorism, child pornography, espionage, and the like. >> i noted that mr. gohmert had an extended period. i wonder if we could let mr. -- >> your period -- >> let me make something clear because i'm a little bit put off by that. the chairman does initially and occasional-l give members a few extra seconds. i don't want that to necessarily set a precedent. in this case your time has far exceeded that of mr. gohmert. i would like to stay within the sked if we could.

>> mr. chairman f. we could ask mr. mueller, off schedule, i think it's an enormously important issue for the country that russia and china are seeking to take over governance of the internet and i think it is something that the f.b.i. might wish to comment on. >> that might be for another time. i also notice that you and the director have agreed to have a personal meeting on some of the issues you raised which were certainly legitimate issues and i'm hoping that you will take advantage of that opportunity, too. >> i'm happy to do that. >> the gentleman from arizona, mr. franks, is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. director, glad you're here, sir. with that unceremoniously i'll yield my time to my colleague from texas, mr. gohmert. >> thank you, appreciate my friend from arizona. i have a last, it was emailed out from the islamic society of north america director on february 14, 2012, which they were basically spiking the

football. they left the meeting again with you. and they said the director's also important participants that to date nearly all related f.b.i. training materials, including more than 1,600 -- 160,000 pages of documents were reviewed by subject matter experts multiple times. they also said material was pulled from the curriculum lum if even one component was deemed to, one, include factual errors. two, be in poor taste. three, be stiro typical, and -- stereotypical, and point for -- one of the lines that had been purged simply says in training other self described jihadist groups can differ with al qaeda and like-minded groups in targeting tackical preference

and their ultimate political goals, although many jihaddist groups overlap in terms of target tactics and goals. apparently that was found to be offensive to say that there were some jihadist groups that overlap in terms of target because apparently that fits the criteria of being stereotypical. and i want to go back to the subject matter experts. you mentioned as we have been told there were five subject matter experts that were doing this purge and that two of them were interagency, but three of them were outside the agency, and we know the president of the named co-conspirator in the holy land foundation trial for which there is plenty of evidence as the fifth circuit court of appeals said, to substaniate that they were supporting terrorism, even though the attorney general decided he did not want to

pursue them, or his office, he didn't take credit for that decision, but -- in fact he left that to an acting u.s. attorney to say that there wasn't evidence when actually he was on the record before the district court and the fifth circuit saying there was plenty of evidence there. but the concern still goes back to who are these subject matter experts? you were ready to give a couple of awards to people for their civic leadership and assistance that ended up not being worthy of being recognized. people that have access to you directly like most americans would not have who have ties that are certainly questionable. and so i think it is worth -- one of my friends across the aisle pointed out, america knowing who are these people

that are purging our documents? and why is it so offensive to say that many jihadist groups overlap in terms of targets and tactics and goals? do you have a comment on that? you had said you might talk about their backgrounds, but who in the world gets to know who these people were? most of us have very secure classifications even though we find out that people like wlrks b.r. on the homeland security advisory group got a secret classification from secretary napolitano and from the evidence it is very clear that man could never have been vetted, could never have gotten a security clearance unless the secretary bypassed all the laws and requirements to give him that. i just keep coming back to the importance of knowing who it is that is actually cleaning out

the f.b.i. training materials? >> well, let me say that i address the issue of -- the way forward on the individuals who try to accommodate -- and will try to accommodate the committee on that. with regard to the meeting with the american muslim, i have periodically as do our special agents in charge in each of our offices, have meetings with members and representatives of the muslim community. the meeting to which you refer was -- i gave exactly the same review the process we had undertaken to review these materials that i have given today and previous testimony. so i think we have done appropriately addressed the issues with regard to the training. again i finish as i did before and welcome you down to review the materials yourself and hear the explanations as to why we thought that these particular pages were inappropriate.

again would point out that we had 160,000-plus pages that were appropriate in terms -- it is not as if we had purged a substantial amount of our training material. >> thank you, mr. gohmert. the chairwoman from texas, ms. jackson lee, is recognized. >> mr. chairman, thank you very much. mr. mueller, good morning. how are you? thank you again for your service. looks like we have traveled this journey for a number of years and again i thank you for your work and the work that you have done even in my state of texas. i just want to make one statement. our special agent in charge are very important and i think you heard me say this continue gwen i continue to encourage them to interface with the community. obviously their work is worth it that relates to their duties, but that's just a public statement i want to make. i think you joined in with me in times past for them to engage even as they engage in local law enforcement. i, too, have a series of

questions but i would make one statement and not -- to join with my colleagues and thank you for your graciousness and like to have an opportunity to meet with you. today i will be discussing the national epidemic of bullying which we have seen. i'm not asking you to intertrude in local jurisdictions. but cyberbullying has become a epidemic as well and it's crossed state lines and it tracks, if you will, national security issues in terms of its depth and breadth. i would like to meet with you on this issue. i will not pose that question as we speak but i know we could find ways to address that because it deals with children. i do want to raise a series of questions as i indicated and i want to go right to the national defense authorization act and your testimony that mentioned that you had questions about the f.b.i. and military showing up. there was provisions to legislation to weaken that, if

you will, depth of coverage of mitt tearl. can you quickly say that worked through your issues with respect to that separation? i think that's enormously important, including the prosecution of terrorists in civilian courts. is that where we stand today, does that help the f.b.i.? >> it does. the statute directed the president to develop procedures that would assure continuity of investigation, continuity of interrogation and like in that circumstance. that directive issued by the president does resolve those issues. >> does it move you closer to both the idea of what your work is supposed to do but also respect for civil liberties as you look at it as lawyer and former judge? >> yes. >> thank you. let me thank you very much for lab that many utilize, d.n.a. lab that many law enforcement submit their requests. can you tell me what your time

frame is? as you well know there is a huge backlog of rape kits across america. it is almost tragic that women are waiting. what is the involvement of the f.b.i. lab? are you getting these -- are you getting these kits? particular cases? more heinous cases? can you answer that question and how we can be a greater help for that backlog? >> the first step for us was reduce our own backlog. we had the backlog in terms of ingestton of samples given changes in the statutes around -- federally in the contry. we reduced that backlog two years ago and last year we reduced almost nothing the backlog of nuclear d.n.a. examinations. so that was by additional personnel given to us by congress as well as developing a new, more mechanical techniques that enabled us to expedite those examinations.

that does not necessarily help jurisdictions around the country who have backlogs of samples that need -- we do not have the funding or capability federally to step in and assist state and local. i don't think there's one of us who wouldn't like to have the ability to make sure that all those tests, samples, are sitting on the shelves of the police department. went through the d.n.a. protocol. but again it's a matter of funding. particularly police departments or state agencies. >> let me ask, these two questions, and i appreciate the chairman's indulgence for you to answer. i'll add the rape kits to our discussion in office. but let me just in your answer indicate what an impact the sequestration would have in terms of staffing but i would like to go straight to two points. the stand your ground laws have taken up their major stand across america and they have in

essence created a quandary. one is mr. zimmerman's case which you have been involved in investigating. i raise the question as to what is the f.b.i. involved in in some of these cases that come in extreme results? and lastly i have heard my colleague talk a lot about muslims. what kind of teams does the f.b.i. have on domestic terrorism, particularly what i call wilderness groups, as well as this article from reuters, planning war, this happens today. do you have a separate sector? how do you relate to that kind of terrorism and how do we have the investigative component that matches or climents state authorities? >> with regard to domestic terrorism, ever since 1995 and the bombing of oklahoma city, we have been aware that we cannot take our eye off

domestic terrorist who is advocate the ability and will to undertake such terrorism. we have had a number of cases over the years, most recent was in spokane where an individual undertook the development of i.e.d.'s, to set it off on the birthday of martin luther king. if you'll recall the persons cleaning the area beforehand found the i.e.d. and we were able to identify the individual. he's sent away for a good long time. so we had a separate domestic terrorism that's every bit as effective and efficient as we hope we are in the international terrorism arena. as to the -- i didn't pick up the first part of the question. >> the impact on sequestration of employees through major cuts. >> we will, again as i said, have to prioritize. we would not take people away from counterterrorism, whether it be domestic terrorism, international. we will not take itway from the

espionage cases. we will not take them away from the important cybercases. we'll have prioritize in other areas, particularly in the criminal arena, will suffer. >> thank you, ms. jackson lee. >> can i put something in the record, please? >> thank you, mr. mueller, we'll speak afterwards. i would like to put the article from reuters, white supremists planning a race car. i ask unanimous consent to place this in the record. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentleman from california is recognized. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. in the interest of time i want to welcome you first of all director mueller, i miss our regular meetings in the eight years i served on the intelligence committee. it's good to see you back. what i'd like to do with the committee's concurrence is i

have four, five issues i'd like to ask you a brief question. perhaps can you give me a very short answer. and with unanimous consent you could provide us with a follow- up, maybe a couple paragraphs or something that could fill in some of the blanks. the first question i have has to do with al qaeda. and there are actually two questions i'll put in -- first of all, as it relates to our southwest border do you see any growing evidence of al qaeda, or any other terrorist organization looking to exploit our border with the intent of launching another terrorist attack on our own soil? that would be the first part of that question. the other is, have you and the continuing concern particularly in yemen the focus on targeting u.s.

airplanes, of course, is becoming more and more unsettling to american travelers, as you well know, and if you see any support you might be able to get from congress that could help you in doing that job, maybe you could briefly answer that. then i'll move on to a couple other issues. >> as to the southwest border and al qaeda, we have not seen an increase of effort by al qaeda to come across the southwest border. on the other hand, when you open the question up to other terrorist groups i would say that we have a continuing concern about iranian influence actors, and hezbollah. i would say the indication of this, most recent, the iranian individual who thought he was dealing with a cartel associate and the expectation of killing

the saudi arabian ambassador here in washington which is indicative of temperance of iran and others to operate south of the border and impact north of the border. the second question with regard to yemen, the -- having obtained most recent explosive device from yemen again reinforces the necessity to address those who are responsible for the production of those devices. in yemen and the intelligence communities, law enforcement communities need the full support of congress to make that happen. >> director mueller, regarding smuggling in human trafficking we have on our southern border, i know this continues to be an ongoing issue. one thing that i'd like to get your assessment on, particularly as it relates to the smuggling of drugs, do you see the weakening of laws, for instance, in the california

state legislature and weakening our drug laws, some to the point that many legislators believe that drug use is a victimless crime, do you see this as having any strengthening effect on the drug cartels? particularly from mexico? >> i really would not be in a position to comment on that. i'm not that familiar with it. >> i tried. ok. there is another issue that we have discussed in the past having to do with activities within our federal penitentiary. this isn't limited to federal penitentiaries, but since you are our federal representative probably you can speak more directly to the federal penitentiaries rather than the state prisons and even local jails. i have a growing concern for the infiltration of certain people operating under the guise

of being clerics to indoctrinate very vulnerable people that are already filled with hate. i know that we have a way of vetting who comes in to counsel and so on and so forth. can you give us a brief statement on the process of vetting and/or surveillance to make sure our vetting is correct? >> literal on after september 11 we worked closely with the federal department of prisons to assure that the appropriate teaching, again appropriate teaching was being conducted within the federal department of prisons. so that has been an ongoing process since probably 2002. at the same time we have over 100 joint terrorism task forces around the country. one of the mandates of that joint terrorism task force is to see and develop intelligence as to what threats may be

within the prison system? many of the state and local prison systems, and on many -- some, maybe many, of the task forces you will have personnel assigned on the state and local prison authorities, corrections authorities who work closely with the joint terrorism task force to address that concern. >> mr. chairman, the red light is on. if i could just ask that the director respond to us and follow up on a couple other issues. one being you mentioned the issue of health care fraud. we discussed this before in this hearing, in this meeting venue i think last time about medicare fraud and principally eastern european involvement. if you could bring us up-to- date on that also on the gang issues in some of the metropolitan areas, particularly where illegal immigrants are the predominant population.

with that, mr. chairman, with unanimous consent, i would ask that he -- the gentleman answer those for the sake of the committee be placed in the record in the hearing and i yield back. >> thank you. the gentlewoman from california, ms. waters, is recognized. ms. waters: thank you very much. i want to thank you for being here. you have a tough job and sometimes we don't make it any easier for you but i'm pleased that you're here. i have two areas that i'm very interested in. i have been tracking your diversity with respect to agents. as you know this question has come up many times. it appears you still only have about 4% african-americans and special agents. i want to know why you haven't been able to do better in recruitment and hiring of african-americans in f.b.i.? addition to that i'm really concerned about some information i just learned -- i attend add briefing yesterday

that was organized by the washington bureau of the american civil liberties union and they shared with me some very troubling information that i want to talk about because it reminds me of the most controversial f.b.i. program i think under j. edgar hoover, that caused a lot of concern in this community. the f.b.i.'s current domestic investigation and operations guide permit f.b.i. agents to track racial and ethnic facilities and certain racial and ethnic behaviors. documents recently obtained from freedom of information act requested by the aclu demonstrates how the f.b.i. is identifying and mapping american communities by race, eth nation it, and national origin all over the country to a program you have called domain management. the documents show that f.b.i. analysts across the country are asocial greating criminal behaviors -- associating criminal behaviors with certain

racial and ethnicities. using u.s. census status to map where those communities are located to investigate them. for instance, in 2009 the atlanta f.b.i. field office published an intelligence note from your domain management that purports to exam the threat in part by documenting the growth of the black population in georgia. i want to know how does the size of the black population in georgia have any bearing on the number of black separatists in a given area? did the f.b.i. map black communities in georgia in its examination of the black separatist threat? the other thing i'm concerned about is the atlanta f.b.i. field office intelligence, those documents show the new black panther party, as former congresswoman cynthia mckinney's ties during the election, and they appeared at

events protesting. we also have information that indicates that congresswoman cynthia mckinney has been under surveillance and has been tracked for quite some time now. does the f.b.i. feel that participation in the political process or protesting police constitutes a threat of any kind? do you think it's appropriate for the f.b.i. to track americans' first amendment protected activity in this way? does the f.b.i. list of major terrorism cases past and present, are more comprehensive list that terrorist attacks going back to 1930, detailed in a f.b.i. report entitled terrorism, 2002 to 2005, include any terrorist act committed by anyone who could fairly be scrind as a member of a black separatist group? that's a lot that i have asked, but i'm really interested, do you have a program called domain management simlar --

>> we have -- yes, we have domain managers. we have a program that requires our intelligence analysts who identify a threat in a particular area, and an aspect of that program may depend on the threat information we got from asourcing or inside the united states or outside the united states. let me start by saying we do not investigate individuals or groups solely on the basis of ethnicity or race. there may be occasions where we know a particular entity, it can be a gang a. terrorist group, it can be organized crime, preys on certain groups in communities, and in those situation where is there may be strings or what have you, the data in terms of those communities may bear on that intelligence analysis. >> domain management is that

directed towards? >> pardon. >> is domain management program is that directed towards certain communities? >> no. it's the threats. mortgage fraud in the community of los angeles, where is the mortgage fraud? domain management means look at your particular division or district and identify the threats and the existence of those threats and how you're going to address that threat. that's domain management. that's identifying the threats and how you go -- have to allocate the resources to address the threats. >> what is mapping? >> the gentlewoman's time has expired. >> unanimous consent for at least one more minute. >> let me say, without objection she'll be recognized for 30 seconds. >> is cynthia mckinney under surveillance?

>> i don't know where that comes from. i do not think it has any validity whatsoever. >> it's in your report. >> then i appreciate seeing it. aim not familiar with what you're looking at. >> thank you. >> thank you, ms. waters. the gentleman from iowa, mr. king, is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. director, appreciate your testimony here today. i'll start with low key material. i'm looking at our report here at d.o.j. victims' report, typical crime victim's report it has on it the categories of age, skearble attainment -- educational attainment, school, etc., race, ethnicity, all categories i think we should be tracking as far as crime is concerned for the victim report. that's fine. the next one i look at is the hate crime incident report and it has similar categories, maybe not exactly identical, but it has categories for race and

ethnicity as well in the hate crime incident report. then when you go to the uniform crime report, the older report, that's the model e-3 for the record it has categories there for race but no category for ethnicity. white, black, american indian, alaska native or asian or pacific islander. it doesn't have a category as the other two for mixed race. i ask if that perhaps is an oversight? something you consider bringing up to date so that our typical crime report would include the broader definitions of mixed race and ethnicity? >> i'm not certain why that is. i assume what we try to do is take that information, where that information is relevant, particular violation of law. but i would look at that. i'm not familiar with that distinction. we'll get back to you on that. >> appreciate that. i just state that i'm interested in it because there

are a lot of numbers thrown around about actual crime, perpetrators, and victims, and this congress is going towards far much more towards looking at the race and ethnicity of the vibblingtims of the crimes. george zimmerman case in florida is one that comes to mind. some i'll be interested in that response. also i would ask you with regard to voter fraud there's been more publicity about voter fraud in the last few months. something i have been interested in for at least a decade or a little more since the 2000 elections in florida, what are you finding in voter fraud? do you anticipate prosecutions coming forward? has anything happened under your tenure that should be pointed out to me that i might have missed as far as voter fraud investigations? >> i again would have to get back to you. obviously the allegations of voter fraud spike in or about elections. we have to go back and look at what -- yes, we have done cases. >> did you get a call -- >> i'm not personally familiar

and can't tell you right now those cases. >> did you get a call when the young man presented himself to pick up attorney general eric holder's ballot here a couple months snoog was that something brought to your attention? i know in the video that came before this committee about a month ago a young white male in his early 20's stepped into the voting location and i believe it was arlington, virginia, and presented himself as eric holder, 61-year-old african- american male, young caucasian male in the early 20's, they were ready to present him a bat local. would that kind of thing be of interested to the fib anybody? >> this is the first i heard of that incident. >> i'm quite surprised at that. i guess maybe the attorney general wasn't alarmed either his vote might have been disenfranchised so easily. i'll go on to something that i am perhaps more concerned about. and that is the publicity that's unfolded here in this -- just this week and i would ask unanimous consent to enter into

the record a news week article dated may 14, 2012, titled why can't obama bring wall street to justice. forbes magazine article dated may 7, 2012, titled obama's d.o.j. and wall street too big to jail. these are subjects -- >> those articles will be made part of the record. >> thank you. these articles point out that attorney general hold earn his lieutenants have at least published in the documents, history of bundling funds as much as half a million or more dollars for the campaign of the president coming from covington, a number of them, who have clients that might have been those clients that are under investigation because of the wall street meltdown in 2008, i point out that in 2009 the president established the financial fraud enforcement task force. that task force has brought some prosecutions. small little petty crimes by comparison. and one example a case we have

goldman sachs settling for a $550 million settlement to the s.e.c.. no criminal prosecution. so in the pattern of the financial history since 2008, can you point out any criminal investigations for the alleged perpetrators that brought about or might have accelerated this wall street meltdown we saw in 2008? >> absolutely.

>> just as much only be done, it must also be seen to be done. thank you and i yield back. the gentleman from puerto rico. thank >> you, mr. chairman, i want to thank you for your service. you read and one of the most challenging jobs and our government and you performed with great skill. thank you. i would like to talk to you about the drug-related violence that we are seeing in the u.s. jurisdictions of puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands. and expressed my respectful but strong belief that the fbi and other federal law-enforcement agencies need to do far more to deal with this problem. let me briefly summarize the situation for you -- while violent crime has decreased nationally, of violent crime in puerto rico and the u.s. virgin

islands has been on the rise for over a decade. the homicide rate in each territory is about six times the national average and almost three times higher than any state. puerto rico has nearly the same number of murders each year that texas does even though texas is home to 25 million people and puerto rico's population does not reach 4 million. according to estimates, 3/4 of the homicides in puerto rico or link to the international drug trade. this is like a moving target. the drug traffickers are changing routes and are hitting the caribbean once again. this is a problem of national scope. about 3/4 of the cocaine that enters puerto rico is then transported to the u.s. mainland.

because puerto rico is part of the u.s., this is not a foreign country, once the drugs enter the island, they are easily delivered to the states. there is no customs. in order to reach luke -- reduce drug-related violence in puerto rico and make the island less attractive shipment point for these organizations, but the governor puerto rico and i have requested the administration established a caribbean border initiative. it is along the lines of the southwest border initiative and now we have a northern border initiative. there is no comprehensive multi-cross agency counter drug strategy for the caribbean. the consequences are crystal clear. the violent deaths of tens of thousands of my constituents and i have to say that what is

happening in the states, it would be an outrage, if it was happening here. it would be a national emergency. i am not the only one who believes the federal government has yet to dedicate the resources and personnel necessary to address this. the bill but the house will him approved this week includes the language -- committee recognizes recognizing drug trafficking and violence in the southwest border region have affected trafficking routes and crime rates in the caribbean. the committee expects the attorney general to address these trends by allocating necessary resources to areas substantially affected by drug- related activities and reporting the actions to the committee. i am the first one realizes that we have fiscal constraints but this is a matter of

prioritizing limited resources and responding to problems in relation to their severity. your agents on the ground in puerto rico are doing terrific work. believe -- i do not believe you have a knack of them down there. -- i don't believe you have enough of them down there. agents. all i am asking is that we deal with this with a sense of urgency. i like to hear at least briefly. >> there may be three aspects that i need to address. one is the drug trafficking in the results of dea. we work closely with them and secondly is the homicide rate.

you are right. they are horrendous. the third is public corruption. our efforts have been in some of the violent side into the drugoften with the gangs, it is the turf. addressing the homicide rates. you have hundreds. we had one day you are familiar with. we literally are arrested over 100 police officers who were involved in this. we prioritize this and put our efforts in these particular efforts. one person is behind bars. -- additional resources or -- more people behind bars. >> thank you. >> the gentleman from california

is recognized. >> without objection. this is an intelligence now from domaine management. carolina is recognized. >> because of this exemplary service, i am going to let him go before me and i will go last. >> what a nice fellow. i was recalling as a kid growing up, one of the starts was a halfback. at notre dame. he was the highly recruited player at the time. i think he had to wonder scholarship offers. -- he had over 200 scholarship offers. agents which included blacks. he was an african american and

was one of our first agents and served about 11 years ago but ialways remember this. the fbi can do better as was suggested. as a kid, i remember him being a hero who went to the fbi. it was exciting to see that happen. mr. director,>> let me ask you this. i am always concerned about the proper relationship between the executive and legislative branch. i am deeply aware of the tremendous job the fbi and department of justice does. in looking at public corruption. it also should be done in the proper way. the ted stevens case,this was a black mark on the department. the conduct of the fbi agent has been called into question.

he failed to write memos including the government's key witness. it provided information favorable to defendants. allegedly also had an additional one that is required under law. these are disturbing. i have always thought when you find the improper conduct by officials that action need to be taken, not only because it is a matter of justice but because you make it clear to others that such action will not be tolerated. direct and specific and immediate recourse will be taken. can you tell us what has happened in that case? >> we have two agents.

one of the agents brought to the attention of the court the issues that were disclosed. another agent is the one you were referring andthis person is going to the process at this juncture. we take into account the most recent report from the person appointed by the court. that person is going through thei appreciate that. ted stevens died in a plane at process at this juncture. some time ago. he was defeated in this election in part because of the actions that were taken against him by the department of justice and the fbi agents. it is little solace to people who i believe by attempting to serve this country well that an

agency required to apply the law and being a coequal branch of government had that improper activity. msf been some improper because -- it must of been some improper activity because the courts seem to think it was. here we are and nothing has taken place. i know you want to be fair about it. is there could be resolution? -- is there going to be a resolution? >> there has been an investigation. it is going through a process. the individual has a right to present this. >> yet he does. members of congress andelected officials and appointed officials have a right to be treated fairly by the executive branch. i know you take this seriously. i know your history. we investigated and propagated all sorts of people.

-- prosecuted all sorts of people. >> occasionally we did it together. >> and yes,the point is on the other side of that i think you have an obligation. they have an obligation to be absolutely fair because if in fact you make an error, yet not only done an injustice to the individuals but to their constituencies whose decision is free burrs are individuals in the voting booth have made this based on improper information. i would tell this would-be, there needs to be some posture to suggest that at least publicly if the consequences flow from it they should it properly. i am not sure this message is

out there. my time is up. i think the gentlemen for being upset generous -- i think the did the man for being so generous. >> the gentleman from california has been so gracious. he is recognized. >> i want to start by thanking me for your service to our country as a director of the bureau. as i did last time, i want to complement the agents. they are always extremely well- prepared. they are professional. if you ever have a chance to tell them, i know a word from someone they respect would mean a lot to them. my first question is more a therapeutic grants. --with the trial going on a will, -- therapeutic rant.

to have a female prosecutors suggest what they ought to have on, to have a defendant take his shirt off and trout, and to have -- in trial and to have defendants them claim that their religion was not allow them to look at women who are dressed a certain way but the same religion does not prevent them from stoning the rape victims and burning women with a jet fuel is outrageous to me. i do not expect to comment unless you want to. the notion that we were ever going to try this case in the media center of the world to give it an even bigger platform to these the defendants, i had judges come down a lot harder than me because i poured water in a cup to loud and then as a judge is coming down on these attorneys.

i doubt there is a thing in the world but you can do about it. when i read about it and when i juxtaposed that with the way american defendants and american prosecutors and defense attorneys are treated, it it just strikes me that we are contorting ourself like an olympic gymnast to want the world to think that we are fair with animals. we do not ever vote the same way. accident. we do agree on this. there is a notion that when poor people steal they go to jail and they get invited to -- rich people steal, sometimes they get invited congressional hearings. the former governor of new jersey. i do not have an idea whether that constitutes a crime. it sure looks like it does.

you have these statistics. i would just encourage you to let the public know that there are prosecutions and convictions and being meted out with respect to financial fraud. the notion that poor people go to jail and rich people don't is planned to destroy our judicial system. i will give you a chance to comment. going on. -- there are prosecution's going on. i asked you to get the word out. i ask you to get the word out to the public sees that there are consequences. -- so the public sees there are consequences for this. >> you make a valid point. with each successful prosecution there'll be an article in the paper. we could do a better job of pushing gather the full portrait. this is a good suggestion that we will follow up with.

>> you have a remarkable career. it seems like we focus on this. these give blended together. some of my constituents have asked me if there is any way we could see how often these are used or how pervasive in certain parts of the country. the more information we can give to folks to demystify this, i wish we were more aggressive and delaying the feels that people -- at allaying the fears that people have that we are striking the balance too much in

favor of government intervention in the privacy. >> i will have to see what parts are public and what we do with regard to the act. the fact we have very few agents around the country. people think that we are far more prevalent i think that we actually are. if you look around and see, if there is anything that has been other than helped, i want it to be brought to my attention. we have organized criminals, terrorists. that is what we do. that. in the absence of any other activities with understanding that there fbi agent as their neighbor and friend. community. >> thank you.

>> thank you. thank you for being here today. our hearing has been concluded. we appreciate your testimony. several members have asked to follow up with the. -- with you. i am sure that will be able to be accomplished. we'll continue to be in touch. without objection, if they will do this for the record. the hearing is adjourned. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> the cspan 2012 congressional directory has details and each member of the house and senate

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