the comparison is not between me and the guy across the street, it is between me in a free economy and if i were in a knot free economy. the question is, what is a free- market economy? >> this is what i learned in the sixth grade. my sixth grade. my teacher came into the class with toys. she passed out these toys 1-by- one to the students. silly putty, barbie trading

cards. we looked around and everybody had a different toy. she said that she wants us to compare our toy to what everybody else says -- has. we all looked down and wrote our numbers on a piece of paper. she had us call out the numbers and she added up the total and she put them on a board. i do not remember the number. let's say it was 75. in the first round of the game, you can freely trade. with anyone else in your bro. think of this as five rows of five seats to keep it simple. each of us had four trading partners. then she said, you can freely trade with anybody in your role. what does that mean? and my free to clock the smaller kids and take his toy? no. if it is free, it is free on both sides. it will only happen if both

people want to trade. there was not a lot of activity. then when it settled down, she a call out the number again and read the number on the board. what happened? the number went up. this might seem obvious, but i would maintain this as one of the greatest mysteries in the universe. nothing new added to the system. got interesting in the second round. she said, now you can freely trade with everyone else in the room. you can imagine the pandemonium that resulted. everyone has 24 potential trading partners initially. lots of secondary trades. it finally settles down. she has caught the numbers and she adds of the total one last time. the number went way up. what is happening? think about it. there was an initial input of stuff. in this case, the toys.

all we had was a system of rules in which the rules determined what we could and could not do. it mimicked free trade. this was not anarchy. people cannot get to do whatever they wanted to do. there was a rule of law in place. we were in school. we knew we could not steal, kill, or threaten each other. it channeled our activities into engagements that by definition were win-win. the trade never takes place unless both people making the trade, if it is a free trade, see themselves better off as a result. just the very logic of the system of the free market is such that if it is really free, people that engage in that will benefit and the more people that engage in it, the more people at -- the more everyone benefits as a result.

i confess i did not understand the point until about 30 years later. this is the genius of the free market. he just by thinking of the logic. in that case -- a lot of a people think of the economy like a pie. click a cherry pie. your thinking of it in the zero- sum game. some person gets a quarter of the pie. that will leave fewer pieces of the pie for everyone else. i have the slide here. a lot of people think of the economy this way. it is a fixed sum. it might sound silly, but in the 20th-century, people believe this is what the economy is like. to read the, a manifesto, karl marx argued that capitalism will

destroy itself. he said this because under this system, you might start out with a group of people, the population, the workers would have most of the wealth in the red. over time, what happens is that the wealth gets transferred more and more into the hands of pure -- fewer capitalists. until, near the end, you get to a point in which the vast majority of the wealth is in the hands of a few capitalists and the vast majority of the population has little or nothing to show for it. let's go one more here. when you get to this stage, he says you get a violent revolution. that purple, that is the vast majority of the wealth in the hands of a few guys. the tiny slice, that is the wealth in the hands of a tiny region of the majority of the population.

-- of the majority of the population. socialism is gray. the state owns everything. that is what the marxists thought. it is what he thought. what is interesting is that the very moment he was writing the communist manifesto, a few miles away in factories in britain, the salaries of the workers were going up rather than down. under the marxist assumption, that is impossible. impossible. it was already refuted before he even right -- even wrote the book. in certain economies, we do not trade beneficially bubbly create wealth. it wasn't there before. all know the spirit if you want to think of it as a pie, the market reality is different.

i cannot know of any pi that gross. >> it helps a lot of people to think about this life. how is this possible. pies do not grow. if this is possible, somebody could get fabulously wealthy not by taking money from someone else but by creating wealth for themselves and others. the late steve jobs did not get rich by stealing ipads from homeless guys. that is not how it works. we know that. we know it.

all economists know that free economies will create wealth over time. what i find fascinating about this is that that is true economically. the question is, how is this possible. this is the point where the judeo-christian theological tradition and the insights of economics converge. the biblical understanding of the christians, we are made from the dust of the earth and yet we have in us the very breath of god. we are created in the image of the free creator. we do not create like god does. we do not call into existence out of nothing. we take what he has created and we transform it into things that were not there before. god creates sand, and he grants to us the dignity to transform it. fiber-optic cables, integrated circuits, the nervous system in

the brain. we can transmit 1000 times more information with fiber optic cables made from 60 pounds of sathat is the image of god at work. there are certain types of economic assistance that will allow us to trade .

-- allow us to trade beneficially and also channel our god-given creativity to create wealth. i would not go so far to say as if intel's the free-market but i would say if you know what man is, you will want and defend economic systems that channel that creativity into greater things. i hope you find it inspiring because this means there is not this conflict between our morals and religious beliefs and the economic system we see that is under attack. people interested in social issues can work together around the same set of principles. those groups need to work together but the truth of the matter is a lot of people of faith to not know how to work together. with that i went to introduce and james robison who has a passionate and inspiring message to give you. [applause] >> thank you. glenn beck texted me and said he did not connect with the people of colorado last night. did he connect with the people of colorado last night? [applause] it was impossible to see the

audience. i was able to watch the people around me and i told him he hit a grand slam. he hit it out of the park. he was a statesman. i want you to know you are witnessing something that is more significant than at first glance. i am a southern baptist, very conservative evangelist. jerry falwell you said you make the rest of us look like a bunch of liberals. last night, an evangelical introduced a mormon. i called him a friend because he is family. you just heard a catholic philosopher now followed by an evangelical protestant. what you are witnessing is what is essential to the survival of

freedom as we know it. [applause] we have to stop the damaging division and dissension that everything within the capacity in territorial creator god literally rebukes. god is calling for a unity, harmony, with the creator. as jay pointed out, we are born in the image of god, co-creator. we did not move out of the stone age because we run out of rocks. the very thought you can take a stand and create the greatest

wealth in america with fiber- optic and microchips. we do not have an energy crisis, we have a crisis in with father god and we do not have a relationship with the family of the father. we have to get that healed. there is a prevailing spirit of divorce that is tearing marriage is a part, families apart, and a nation apart and we have to put a stop to it. being created equal does not mean we are created the same. no two fingerprints the same, no tubing people the same. the new testament of firms that the family of fate is a body of christ. the world teaches what you need are connections. god says you need connected s. -- connectedness. every part in the body connected to every other part. i have been pointing out to my friends come back and neck as part of the body to this part of the body, committed to the hand and hand works properly. the hand of god. the love of god. the compassionate care of god must be demonstrated by people

who have submitted their lives to be father and creator, submitting to his lordship, a connecting to one another properly each one with a distinct roles but one connected together, we could put the arms of our loving father around a broken world. let me say to every republican, you had better pull your head out of the sand and understand if you do not want your epitaph to be "thou fool" take the capacity god has given you to create prosperity and wealth and you focus on the needs of the downtrodden and overlooked. you had best learn to speak the language of the poor or they are going to destroy prosperity. we have been the most prosperous nation in history. we're going to either witness the rebirth of freedom and the

restoration of the foundation upon which this nation was established to become the most benevolent in history, or we are going to witness the death of it. as ronald reagan said, if we do not remember we are a nation under god we will be a nation down under. god is calling us to a heart harmony with one another that enables us to overcome all of the power of people. right now we are witnessing what appears to be a prevailing world view that is so upside- down, so inverted, with god on the bottom, the philosophies of the men, socialism, liberalism, prevailing when they think they pull up, they continue to take us down. it is as though the chicago mafia has ended up in washington, d.c. [applause] i want to make it clear, i don't blame democrats or republicans. the major responsibility rests on the shoulders of people who

profess faith in a living, mighty god. will you stay at home and took care of business, somebody has given you the business. i can promise you that the enemy of faith and freedom, the enemy of anything that made our nation great, are walking in lockstep. the strangest, august bedfellows you have ever seen. but day march in step. just like the consuming locusts. they never broke rank, they walked together, they found the place is a vulnerability as these consuming the wealth of productivity. the consuming locust in america

are the liberal, progressive social lists. they are destroying the potential of our nation. [applause] there is only one way to stop it. rend your heart, not your garments. stop going through the motions of religion and get in a relationship with god. if you say you love god and you do not love your brother, you are a liar. the very fact i am standing here shoulder to shoulder, heart to heart, with a catholic philosopher, i don't even have a college degree. glenn beck and i are cut out of the same mold.

i told you last night when i introduced him, i am the product of a relationship forced on a home nurse. she conceives. in desperation she says i have to read of this child. the doctor said know. i lived in poverty without a father. i am typical in so many ways of the prevailing world view that is destroying our world. fatherless because people do not know god the father. they do not understand commitment. this room is filled with successive people. success is not our problem. thou fool, it is not your soul that is required of thee. he did not say that because he

has an the abundant harvest. he said it because he was so consumed with himself that he could not see realistically the challenges which are opportunities. the wealth creators should all the poverty problem. don't give it over to the government. they cannot manage $1. your put things on conscience because you give them 35% of your income to mismanage. stop doing it. do what it, cousins did in atlanta. rebuild the inner city. turn the place inside out. there is enough power in this room alone to correct our nation's course. there are enough christians

here, and pull your head out of the sand. stand up on the rock of god's truth. don't give the world philosophy's prevailing your future, your children's. we are robbing and stealing from children yet to be born. god forgive us all. i will not sit back and watch this nation die. i will use every ounce god has given me to a week and the church, to weaken the people of faith, to quit arguing, in answer to jesus prayer. that we be one with a father. and perfected in supranatural unity with one another. that is what you see with me and jay and glenn beck. you came to me, a mormon. it is like coming to a leper. but she loved me.

you loved me. changing my life. love never, never fails. hope does not ride into town on air force one. it does not ride on the back of donkeys or elephants. i know the bible says someday the lion will lie down with the lamb. my mother took me as a boy in poverty. i did not have an address. we got our mail at someone else's house. when i filled out the survey

card at school, to tell about my dad, i did not have one. i live in an alley behind someone's house, on a dirty river. i bathed in the colorado. i was a 5% white where i lived. a wonderful thing happened. no one taught me to hate opportunity and success. no one told me that the success was an enemy. i looked out from the mire in the misery of my empoverish situation in my dysfunctional family and i saw possibilities.

i saw opportunity. i went to work at age 12, every day, for 40 cents an hour. no one told me that was too little. no one told me i was too young. three months later the manager says you're the greatest worker i have ever seen. he put me over produce, he put me over gary, he put me over the stock department. he had university of texas students working in said son, i have never seen anything like you. i would like to run the meat department but you have to be 18. he said i'd that when you grow up you could manage the store just like this. my 12-year old line that had not been whipped into a world view, of my mind says when i grow up i could own this store. [applause]

that is what must happen. the you know how we get the truth out? we become what jesus commission us to be. we become salt and light. light to illuminate the way. how to put it in place and the proper way to go. jesus said, don't you hide that light under any covering our compromise. do not cover it with religion. let me tell you how many of my friends have allowed that light to be hidden. you have taken care of business in the light of your own situation and you have never gotten that on a stand to stand by their lights and become the city set on a hill that cannot,

will not, and must not be hidden. unless we do that, what to jesus said about salt, you will witness. jesus said it -- what does salt do? it protects the precious. it adds flavor. jesus said if the salt loses its of flavor, it is good for nothing to be trampled on and under the feet of men. we have hit and a light at church, at home, and we have enjoyed the blessings and benefits. we have not become the city they cannot be hidden. we are watching the sacred and precious trampled under the feet of god-denying individuals. the only hope is for us to come together and stand on our feet for god. he is the father. we are family. he is our hope in restoring

freedom. god bless you. [applause] >> wow, wow. james robison, "indivisible." robison and richards, a catholic-evangelical, mormon, jews, americans of good will who understand we are a nation under god and we are indivisible and we will prevail. what an inspiring message. thank you, james. thank you my good friend. we have people on this team. for the introduction of our next speaker, please welcome our dear friend ambassador marilyn ware. [applause] >> i want to comment post script, it took me 42 years to get there.

remain resilient and determine in what she believed. john, good to be with you. some friends, all of us, it is my pleasure and will be yours, i am certain, to introduce a friend of her freedom, affairs expert and national-security experts. by way of background, you should know that kt worked in security for three presidents, and nixon, ford, and ronald reagan.

she and i had a breakfast meeting this morning and we both commented ronald reagan's foresight and vision and the encouragement she got in those early posts putting her on the track, making her a great american. those are my words. in addition, in today's world, in a world of media and variations of media, kt has become the fox news national security in analysts, she appears regularly on fox news and fox business news. she is writing, communicating with every tool that you could

have. she has a significant radio presence and i am sure you will recognize her having seen her there or her voice on one of these many radio programs. so now it is time to travel the world in a foreign affairs and defense matters and welcome kt mcfarland. [applause] >> thank you, i want to tell you, you have no idea who this lady is. she should be speaking to you. she is a legend in diplomatic circles. she ran a major corporation and went on to be the ambassador to finland where they were not expecting a woman ambassador hand has continued to do great things for conservative causes and republican causes around the world. i am honored to share the stage with you.

can you hear me if i walk over here? i also want to thank john andris because he guessed it. he understands that is not just about winning enough votes to be president, and nafta votes to hold public office. it is about changing the way people think. i learned that from ronald reagan. he knew it was not enough to be president. he knew you had to get the support of the american people. we have had political leaders for the past decade who did not get that. that is why it is important, the work you are doing, to educate yourself and to be part of it. before i start, it is important, since i'm going to talk about national security, to ask if anyone who has worn a uniform in law enforcement or the military or his family member has done so, i am a navy mont.

i like to thank my countrymen. please stand up. i want to give you a round of applause. this is awesome. look at this. [applause] thank you, all. freedom is one generation from being lost. the fact that people serve the country and do so under difficult times, we owe you a debt of gratitude and i hope that the young people take the example from what you have done. i thought what i would do, and i will do it quickly, is to tell you who i really am. how many of you watch fox news? i am the brunette at fox news. [laughter] in that regard, i have to earn my keep every day. i want to talk to you about the national security issues we face today, the ones we will face four years from now, and then the future beyond that. where are we today? what are the main issues we face?

one year ago somebody had stood up here and said this is really great. the middle east is going up in flames and they're going to have new democratic governments. it has not happened that way. the countries in the middle east to help overthrow their dictators have come in the last several days, have voted to replace those dictators with islamic governments. particularly the case of egypt, is the muslim brotherhood. do we worry about them? they were founded dedicated to the extermination of the jews. there was no israeli state at

that point but in modern days they have talked about the termination of the state of israel. it could be like iran, they are very anti-american. or it could be like turkey. you do not know the direction. but as egypt goes, so will the rest of the region. it is the largest country in that part of the world. the elections that just happened are not a good indicator of where things are going. look at what happens with the arab spring. it is not where we thought it was going to be. this administration has done a poor job of pulling the rug out

of the country that was our friend. it started with iran. he gave a speech in cairo and he called out the muslim people to stand up for their rights and demand freedom. when the iranian people went to the streets, president obama turned the other way, to the point where those people were saying obama, you have forsaken us. president obama did. he turned his back on the reform movement in iran because he thought he was going to negotiate with the iranian regime and convince them and charm them at of their nuclear weapons. it did not work that well. that is where we are there. the second thing, and this is the greatest threat to security, it ron's nuclear-weapons program. iran is trying to be a nuclear weapon states. they are working fast and furiously toward a succession of the nuclear-weapons and they

want to expand. they want to be the most powerful country in the persian gulf. why? because that is the chokepoint of oil. it goes past the iranian border. if iran controls the persian gulf, they control the oil. that is the second greatest threat facing america today and it is one that is present. they really do not see there is any impediment to what they are about to do, become a nuclear weapons state. israel. we have basically walked away from israel. now, some people say that is a good thing. we were to cross-israeli and to anti-arab. but what date does is it convinces israel that they are on their own. if they fill america does not have their backs, they are going to feel compelled to do with the sec current threat i

talked about, it ron's nuclear- weapons program. israel has said the israeli leadership, political parties, iran is an existential threat. iran gets nuclear weapons, israel ceases to exist. that is how they do things. if they feel the united states is not helping them, they will feel it is necessary to take things into their own hands. the next thing facing the united states today is the reset with russia. that has not worked out very well. president obama came in and saying, we are going to reset relations with russia because they have been so bad. the russian leadership said, where you want to reset back things to? 1990's? the russians were pleased with

the way things were going in the bush era because they felt they were reclaiming their superpower status. when president obama and secretary clinton missed fired by saying, this is a reset of our relations with russia, the russians have increasingly felt they have president obama right where he wants in. he is in a box and is now at a point where he was lectured the entire time that he did not understand history. obama had thought it would improve our relations in controlling and helping usher in a new era in the middle east. and it has not been that way. the final thing we face today, but nobody talks about it. it is the elephant in the room. we are not focusing on that. the indebtedness we have to china.

every dollar that our government spends, 40 cents his bar. half of that is borrowed from china. hillary clinton has said he did not pick a fight with your banker. it puts the united states in a position where we do not want to be. where we are not able to challenge a lot of the things the chinese are doing. they have a large cyber command dedicated to stealing intellectual property and military secrets from the united states. they have packed into the pentagon. if you represent and the companies, you have been hacked, too. they are able to steal something that has cost us a years and billions of dollars to develop. estimates are that the chinese have already had access to a trillion dollars of our critical infrastructure and intellectual property and our military developments.

for example, lockheed martin can spend billions trying to develop a new stealth bomber. the chinese click the mouse and before you know it, they look exactly like the model we were rolling up at the chinese rolled it out in advance much more cheaply. we are not in a position to challenge that because you do not pick a fight with your banker. where are we four years from now? let's assume we continue with the trajectory that we have. four years from now, that iran is a nuclear weapons state. why do we care? if iran gets nuclear weapons, the other countries have already announced they will get nuclear weapons. the saudis have said they will get nuclear weapons. they say they are interested in nuclear energy but if you are an oil-rich country, you do not need nuclear energy.

it is a means to an end toward a nuclear weapons program. the turks will not stand by and watch a nuclear iran, a new clear saudi arabia and not develop nuclear weapons of its own. within the next four years, and that not four years of make you crazy right-wing people who are hysterical, that is the secretary of defense who have said the iranians are within a year of nuclear-weapons once they make the decision. we are talking about four years

from now you will face a nuclear iran and a nuclear arms rise in the most unstable part of the world for which the world looks for energy. the second thing you would see four years from now, if there is no change, is the issue of how secure is the future of israel. if israel feels that united states is not going to help them, israel is going to feel compelled to attack iran by itself. it has in the past, when iraq was developing a nuclear enrichment plant. israel attack to that. three years ago when syria was developing nuclear weapons, israel attacked that. it is a safe assumption the israelis are already considering an attack on iran. what does that do? it does not stop there. we would be brought into that war.

where would we be four years from now? we may have a nuclear region. we may have seen in other arab- israeli conflict, one that would bring in the united states. the likelihood of those weapons being used, everyone will have nuclear weapons. the next war, there is always another war in the middle east. or one in which nuclear weapons were used. the third thing in 2016, if we do not have a change, the united states relationship with china will be different. the chinese are a status quo power. they are sitting back, playing by the rules, building up their economy, building up their military to the point where at some point in the future they can claim to be the greatest economy and that all the rules change. if china, and we have just seen the decision, others have spoken about it, we are putting the social where flare on steroids.

the amount of money we are bar wing is 40 cents of every dollar. this is not enough rich people to tax them all to make up the difference. especially as the baby boomers continue to retire. what will happen is the united states will have to borrow more money. that is coming from the loan shark which is china. four years from now the united states will have exceeded our economic sovereignty to china. that is today. that is a scary four four years from now. you can conclude this is dreadful. the world is about to end. i am a real pessimist. i have been trained as a nuclear

weapons expert. i am looking to see what has gone wrong in the world. in the last two years i have become an optimist. i am not talking about the optimists who thinks everything is going to be great. there are two main competing theories, one says that all nations have their moments. the rise and then they inevitably collapse. the other theory says that the united states is exempt from this. we are somehow special. we are americans in a different system. ronald reagan believes that. i have come around to conclude the second theory is the right one. i spent my life studying why some nations go to war and some

of fall by the wayside. america stacks up pretty well in that formula. nations go to war because they do not like their neighbors. we have good neighbors. to the north we have a friend, to the south we have trouble but not one that is a military invasion. we do not have a lot of the problems that have plagued europe, for example. the second thing we have going for us is that we have solved a lot of the religious problems that care other nations apart. in the middle east, it is torn apart by tribal problems. libya, we used to have a strong man in libya, and now we have tried fighting against each other. we in the united states are not perfect but we have come a long way toward solving those problems. we are ahead of it.

the next thing is good governance. we throw it away although thank goodness glenn beck is educating us again. we have a great government. lot of countries have leaders who were in it for themselves. we did not. we have a nation where our laws are respected by all and we have a succession plan. look at the middle east today. a lot of what you are seeing is people going to the streets because there is no succession plan. when mubarak tried to hide over his government is when the egyptian people said we do not want that. countries go to war when they cannot agree on who was going to succeed the current leader. we have a figure that out. we do not go to the barricade when we change our leadership.

the next thing is demographics. i like to think about it as goldilocks and the three bears. you do not want to have too much or too little. you want it to just right. we have a good demographic situation. china is a demographic time bomb. one child per family and that means they will have a lot of old people retiring on the backs of one child and their preference for male children, there are some parts in china where there are 140 males to 100 females. nobody knows what that experiment is going to be but it will not be good. the united states has some population growth but not too much. part of the problem is that 75% of most of these countries have a population under the age of 30 and they do not have jobs. that is a revolution in the making. china has the opposite problem. the united states, we have a

pretty good demographic ratio. the next thing we have is women. the ambassador and i have been on the forefront of women's movements but in a lot of countries women are educated but are not allowed to enter the workforce. japan is an example. economists tell us that women who are educated as an increase in in gnp. we have that solved. we are doing pretty good. the only problem is our debt and deficit problem. we cannot seem to summon the political will to pay off our debt or to balance our budget. for that, we have been thrown a lifesaver. because if you look at, why do countries go to war? we fight over energy. at the first world war was about germany trying to get control of the fields of central europe in world war ii was the japanese try to get access to oil. we have found, and our engineers have developed a technology that we can look underneath the ocean for energy.

when we have looked, we have found we have an abundant supply. we have more oil than saudi arabia. we have enough energy to be in the world superpower for the next 500 years. at the end of the day, what is that going to do? that is a renaissance that is going to revitalize the industry and help us pay off the debt, balance the budget, and bring jobs back to the idea that it states as manufacturing becomes competitive again. i have confidence in the future but the only thing that stands between us and the future king is we have to have the national will to do it. we have to have the national will to say leading from behind is not going to be good enough.

we have to say we are different. american people are different. america's future is different. we need to develop that. i would challenge every one of the yen people to say this is your moment. i was part of the reagan revolution. it was a bunch of old people in charge. there were a lot of kids who were the revolution. what ever happens in november or the next november or the next november this is an opportunity for the young people of america to get involved. this only happens once a generation. we have to learn the dedication to individualism and get away

from the notion of entitlement. who is going to do that? it is the young people. go get involved. run for office yourself. go volunteer. [applause] for anybody like me, i have five children. two are graduating from college today. mom and dad come and tell your kids to go get a job. if not, get involved politically. that is how we will get to the future that we want. with that, you guys get to ask me the tough questions. we have time for a couple.

>> kt mcfarland, how about it? [applause] >> thank you. >> and not bad for a starting out as a college student and the lighting as a typist in the white house. their rest is history. >> john can say that because he was the guy across the street. we do not look old enough to have been that together, but we were in the nixon administration together. >> we were both blond. if i had gone brunet i might have succeeded as well. [laughter] secrets he learned only at the western conservative summit. there are microphones and some of the aisles. it is hard for me to see you against a light. we need to because we have the

honor that c-span is covering the summit and it will be on the air nationally very soon. is there a question? >> we do not know who you are so you have to identify yourself. >> i wonder if he might comment if you think that the financial crisis will serve as a cautionary tale for us to get our house in order? >> it depends. what happened was when sarkozy was thrown out of france when you have that summit in chicago, they all looked at each other and said let's see what austerity did. that was the budget in france. what france has elected is a socialist big spender. the lesson that president obama has learned is that what ever you do, don't start cutting back. in fact, it may have had an

opposite reaction in washington. i think the american people look at that and are horrified. we could be greece. my take on europe today and the spending and where it goes, i think germany has figured out how to win world war i. they are not doing it with tanks and battleships were bullets. they are doing it with bonds and bailouts. they played by jeremy's new rules. or they do not. in which case they will go bankrupt and germany will buy them out of bankruptcy. that is the lesson. the takeaway of europe should be the lesson of the united states and china. >> let's go over here to your right. i think all of you are capable

to go into your right. i see one of my favorite radio hosts. >> good to see you again. >> you better tell people where they can hear you. >> 850 on koa unless i am pre- empted by sports. so, -- >> everybody listened to him tomorrow. >> kt, can you tell us from a strategic point of view and why is our relationship with israel important? why do you think american domestic politics play an important role in what israel would decide to do with iran? >> for sure. i think israel and the united states have a relationship that

if the united states abandons israel, as some in europe did after 1973, that tears at the seoul in america. it is a thriving democracy. it is a group of people who have gone to the desert and turned it green. we owe them a relationship where we stand by them. not at the expense of fallout, but the survival of the state of israel [inaudible] [applause] i think the prime minister wakes up every morning. one clock says how much time does israel have before iran develops a nuclear weapon? the second is how much time does israel have to stop iran, either with an attack, sanctions

we have instituted, or with cyber attacks. the third clock is the american election. think what are the swing states likely to be? florida. if the israelis feel that president obama is going to be reelected, and there is a question whether obama would support them in a second term. if there is an arab-israeli war, israel needs the united states. if they have concluded that a reelected obama is not want to be in their best interest and we are facing a threat, then their political calculation has to be to launch some kind of a preemptive attack. nope candidate for president is going to walk away from israel before the election.

the second thing timing-wise, the state of israel has to conclude that time is not on their side with the growth of the militancy of the arab world after the arab spring. >> kt mcfarland and her husband are our guests. >> of fox news cannot live without their resident burnett. i have to go back to work tonight. >> she will be around a little while. there will be an opportunity for you to chat with her as we move into our break ahead of light, which is the next thing and she has reminded us. let's dick the last question from over here.

>> do you think islam is destroying europe? >> you are going to hear about that later today by people who think it is. i think it depends. one thing that has happened in europe, they started out by welcoming the islam contributions of their character. angela merkel has said it, multi-cultural is and has not worked. what we always thought was our saving grace was that people immigrate to the united states, they become us. i am of italian descent. spanish-american, whether your

family came from japan, china, you become americans. the first generation is the mother country but by the second generation, the kids are at the mall, they have earphones, they are normal american kids. we integrate them into our society. europe has failed to do that for a lot of reasons and i think that presents a different threat.

to have a better understanding for each other and move on to talk of different situations. i am not here to normalize anything. i am here because i want a future for my daughter. i want justice and, through justice, i will have peace. hello? >> -amanda, from the bush school

of government texas university. i want to ask the panelists, how do you take this experience and extend it back to people who, for logistical reasons, not everyone can leave and come to a program like this. they are already predisposed to dialogue. how do you take it back to people. seems like some people came back into it with a spirit of revenge. >> i am studying economics in college. but but we have genius' ideas with a beautiful mind -- >> we have genius' ideas with a beautiful mind. a lot of geniuses are not just the engineers who are very productive. let them appreciate each other.

and i have a program for start- ups and crowd funding projects where we put them in a safe environment and in that way the palestinians can realize how they can reach out in a world where a lot of people will be willing to support them and that way you will have the palestinians who are young like us start their projects and realize that even though there is a humanity, but it is not just my project when we go back and that is what i will work out as an economist. we worked in a different

organization that is pro-israel. working on an american task force for palestine. we are actively working on a project to create a facebook page where we can connect with the media, please ", and twitter. the american task force of palestine. we can create a safe environment for people, places and ideas for them to live in. in the same way, we can create a little bit of a difference for this small change or a bigger change.

>> i think that, as a reason, as mentioned before, the reason we have social media, it is a community group that means operations and trust. this trust can be translated to other things. but it can be a corporation with different societies, all of these things are bottoming out solutions. they can bring society together. here we are willing and we have a lot of ideas about how to make the social change. i hope we will succeed with that.

thank you for the question. >> thank you once again. a few years back, i met several students from the israel interdisciplinary center. we were discussing stuff. one of the things that struck me in about the vast majority of the group, for an institution that is politically oriented, i was very little affected and told that there was a problematic issue within israel. what kind of challenges to you come across?

recent projects rarely highlighted the issue of the conflict. thank you. >> thank you for the question. i think that in the last panel, there was monitoring of the youth movement. they were gaining force again. i think that the youth in israel are charging for leading this country. we want to change things. we want to change our leaders. as i said, there is a sense that we get from our leaders sometimes something that is possible. it is a big challenge.

i think that our generation is willing to take the first and this generation is doing it here, like the israeli and palestinian issue. but now these are demonstrations about social justice. there is an obstacle to transfer that message and make it more is really. it is like what the last question was about israeli youths are changing. they want change. they're going to need new faces in the next election. i really believe that.

i have been working with a lot of young people i and is really -- in israel. social rights and social justice. >> i have been living with my host family, an israeli. he is telling me about his genius project. freeing palestinians and college students together to study conflict resolution in the u.s..

there are problems in israel. the amount of compassion and love for the project he is working on, he had -- he would have worked to overcome any problem. that is why wanted to say. >> thank you. >> we will only be taking a couple more questions. >> my name is system -- susan. the question is amorphous. i do not know that any of you will have the answers. there have been giants in the muslim world and the jewish world who have stepped up and created the opportunities for peace on some level, in some limited way. what do you see as having

prevented, in the last 15 to 20 years, the emergence of similar giants who are willing to take risks for peace? >> thank you. thank you for the question. i think that what has stop this was the disappointment of future solutions not working and thinking that we will not want to do with it, thinking we will not want to see politics involved. as an answer to the following question, there is something changing right now. but we can see it in israel everywhere.

things are changing. as i say, i am trying to predict. you see that it will grow into flowers in the next election. we are trying to move it forward. you have these young people here. you have met the 10 people in this program that are dealing with these issues, exactly, even more in their place of birth or where they are now. they are trying to make that difference. it is really hard. it is hard to see, especially from here, of course, but you will see it soon. >> you asked the question and you answer the question.

as you talked about hoping for new faces in the election, these giants the two are talking about really are giants. they're not looking for any new generations. >> i just had one thing to add to your question. i also think that the issue is accountability. i think that sometimes you have a level of corruption in leadership and impunity and people staying in power. where i see hope is institutions

like the palestinian destruction commission. these are palestinian institutions and organizations that are creating a greater sense of accountability for leadership. i think that boast -- both institutions will be important in the coming years in terms of creating possibilities in palestine. >> are there any more questions? yes, ma'am? >> i have a bit of a different question. these issues are different from the ones in israel and palestine. can you talk about the most important lessons that we can learn from you?

>> i have been living in the it -- in the u.s. for the last nine years. i have been living with a wonderful host family. after the first year, was trying to go back. my american sister started crying. she said not to go back. there were suicide bombers everywhere that would kill me. i went to palestine and was talking with my mother. she was like -- if you go there, go to the home. or stay here. [laughter]

my mother back home, all she sees is the american media, about guns, killing, and drugs. shoe is very nervous before i came to the u.s.. my sister, my american sister in minnesota, when she watches, she never saw a palestinian executive in bethlehem. she saw suicide bombers everywhere. that is what they wanted to think. that is the stereotypes they want you to have. the biggest challenge is to break those and look at us from the inside. >> i will add one small thing.

we are very much and join this program, hearing stories. i think it will we bring to the table for these programs, we can make a change and we need you to believe with us. >> all right. that was our last question. i want to thank you all for coming. i am sure they have thrown the new story leadership out half of a dozen times. right before i let you go, paul would like to say a few quick words. >> thank you very much, patrick. as you leave, as you walk out the door this afternoon, i hope

to your heart is in a different place than it was when you walked in. i will answer it again. will you walk out with some hope? i want you to please acknowledge the people of this panel and the previous panel. it is in their words, their heart, and their passion. can i ask you to recognize all of the panelists? [applause] as we do that, as we do that i should have offered to take the exclamation. you saw the presentation today. there was five hours of work shopping last night. these speeches are the words of the whole team. with the rest of the team stand

up to acknowledge their work? -- would the rest of the team stand up to acknowledge their work? [applause] i also want to recognize, and you would have seen it, you would have seen meghan leading the first panel and patrick leading the second panel. we have an extraordinary staff management team led by some extraordinary alumni and joined by our local american leaders, irish and south african. some of these people have been working from the beginning. there are americans in the foundation story. would you please stand up to be recognized? [applause]

lastly, we are very honored to have this story beamed through c-span and around the world. these stories accelerate and accentuate the power of these stories to inspire, not just washington, but the world. we are grateful to c-span for covering us today. last of all, we have said thank you to the school of conflict management, who has for the second time invited us to use their name and facility. i wanted to particularly point out that i am the chairman and emeritus of the alumni association of these programs. i can draw on 550 alums, plus all of these wonderful student

leaders and interns from georgetown. these people are the people who made it possible. two of them are alumni of science. [unintelligible] graduated in 2011 and it is his connections that give us this. thank you so much for allowing us to use your good will and good credit for this operation this morning. i want to point out another science graduate, [unintelligible] who is another graduate of the program. thank you for coming and thank you so much for allowing this to happen. go to our website, and if you want to continue this

conversation, this is the news story. we have got to get with the program. if hope has been born in new. we believe in you, you inspire us. [applause]

>> both chambers of congress are back in session today. they will look at bills on agriculture, defense, and there will be a note on repealing the obama health care law. the senate returns at 2:00 this week, to consider a nomination of judge from western tennessee. they will also be looking at small business access. the house and senate will be live at 2:00 eastern on c-span 2. two live events on c-span 3. first, the director of the national security agency will talk about cyber-security threats. followed by the house rules committee, hosting a meeting to repeal the obama health care law. that bill will be on the house floor on tuesday. live coverage at 5:00 eastern on c-span 3.

♪ >> this week, on a "q&a," a former navy cmdr, kirk lippold, discussing his new book, "front burner." >> former captain of the united , why did youole take the blame for 9/11 in your book? book?