team can do but we can do better as well. i have gone across the country describing a five. plan that will get this country going and create good jobs and rising incomes. those five points i will mention but one of them i will talk about in some depth. number one is taking exams -- advantage of our energy resources. wind and solar and a clear. that is number one. number two, we have to make sure our schools are world class. this nation invented education. we have to fix our schools and the th-- them the best in world. we need to open up trade with latin america and other parts of the world and crack down on cheaters like china when they cheat and steal jobs with unfair trading practices. we will not get businesses and

individuals to risk starting enterprises here in hiring people if they think america will become greece. we will have to get serious about cutting the federal spending, encouraging growth, and finally, balance our budget in this country. we have to champion small business. we will help small business keep their taxes competitive. get regulators to see their job is to encourage business cannot crush it and take off that big cloud that is scaring away hiring from small business. we need to repeal it and replace it with something that helps bring down the cost of health care. i want to go deeper for a moment as i talk about that number one objective which is energy. if i am the president of the united states in a few months here, i will set a national goal

of america and north america, north american energy independence by 20/20. north american energy independence by 20/20. we produce all the energy we use in north america and there are a number of things i will do to make that happen. it is achievable. this is not some in the sky kind of thing. this is an achievable objective and i have a chart that is still holding up up here. on the left-hand side you see a bar there that represents -- you can read the writing but i can read it from here so i will tell you what it says. that shows how much the total demand is in the u.s. and right now we're making 15 million barrels per day. we're producing 15 million barrels a day. the rest we import. we are producing about two- thirds of what we use and we are importing about one-third. as they go across the line, there are various sources of

additional energy. i have a bar representing conventional sources. that suggests the conventional sources, are probably going to see a reduction in production over the last 10 years. we're going to have to make up for that reduction. we will add about 2 million barrels per day in offshore drilling. it is a big source of additional supply. alaska. this will add additional oil production in this country. national gas liquids, natural gas is booming as a source of energy. you get some liquids and those liquids can be refined and used

to create gasoline for automotive purposes as well. then we come to biofuels. it will produce about 1 million barrels per day of additional capacity. and then we come to canada. we will take advantage of those and build that keystone pipeline to make sure we have the advantage of their energy sources. the last little bar is mexico. mexico, i am not counting on any increase. they have actually been declining slightly. by virtue of a new president, we will find ourselves being able to work with mexico to share our technology to help them become more productive and add to the energy produced in north america.

by 2020, we're able to produce 23-28 million barrels a day of oil and we will not need to buy any oil from the middle east or venezuela or anywhere else. [applause] you might wonder how in the world i'm going to do all of those things because those opportunities have existed for a long time, we just haven't taken advantage of them. so there are some things i'm going to do differently that makes it possible for us to be able to achieve those improvements in production from all of those sources i described. number one, on federal lands, the permitting process to actually drill and get oil or gas is extraordinarily slow. interestingly, on state lands and private lands, state regulators have streamlined their permitting process, there

a valuation, their environmental process and say process. they have found a way because states compete with each other and have found a way to do things more efficiently. in north dakota, it takes 10 days to get a permit for a new well. in colorado, it takes 27 days to get on state land a permit. but do you know how long it takes federal government regulators to get a permit on federal land? an average 307 days. here's what i'm going to do -- i am going to have the states take responsibility for the permitting process on federal lands. [applause] of course the process is going to have to be reviewed and approved by the federal government and will be overseen and monitored, but will have state regulators not just regulate oil production and gas production on state lands and private lands but also on federal lands, and that will improve the creation of new oil wells and gas wells and get more production to the people who need it. i also want to note another way

we are going to get more production and that is with regard to our offshore resources. right now, the federal government has been holding off offshore development. what we're going to have to do is speed that up, so i'm putting together a five-year leasing plan to lease offshore sources and we will make as part of that, carolina, virginia and the gulf will have companies that do the drilling responsible for getting this target and if not, we'll have corrective measures. but we're finally going to make sure we implement state of the art safety procedures for offshore drilling and a sure as we put in place these regulations and procedures their design for safety, not designed to stop drilling for energy resources, using the law to stop drilling for energy is not in the best interest of our people. [applause] number 3, going to establish an energy partnership with canada and mexico. we're going to work collectively have a fast-track

process to make sure infrastructure projects are approved. particularly, we're going to get the keystone pipeline approved. number four, it's time we get an accurate inventory about how much energy we have. the president keeps talking about the idea that we only have 2% of the world's oil reserves. that's a dramatic understatement of the energy resources of this country. it's probably seven times that amount or more. i'm going to authorize a seismic study of our onshore and offshore resources to find out what we have had where we have an going to require those that have the service -- have these surveys to collect them and share them with one another and take advantage of an understanding of what our resources are so we can plan accordingly. i am also going to do something that has been around for a long time -- i'm going to change to regulatory and permitting process to make a more transparent and make sure as we

put in place regulations, they are designed to actually help get production where is needed and not using regulation to stop the production of energy. if sometimes i have the impression that the whole regulatory attitude of the administration is trying to stop oil and gas and coal. they don't want those sources. they want to get those things so expensive than so rare that wind and solar become highly cost-effective and efficient. i like wind and solar like the next person, but i don't want a lot to be used to be stopped -- to stop the production of oil, gas, and coal and i'm going to get to lot to be transparent time lines, statutes of limitations and stop using a legal suits to stop the production of energy in this country. number six, i want to promote energy innovation. what do i mean by that? we have watched the president follow different paths. he has taken federal dollars, your money, to invest in

companies, smaller companies, when companies, about $90 billion in so-called green jobs. $90 billion has gone to this. the government of the united states is not a very good venture capitalist. he says he's picking winners and losers. mostly he has been picking losers. there is a long list of these businesses he is investing in. i don't want government investing in companies, particularly companies of his campaign contributors. i want instead to have our government investing in basic science and research, finding new sources of energy, also finding ways to be more efficient in our use of energy. i happen to believe that dotted line i have there where it says american energy uses -- usage will stay about the same. i say we can bring that down three -- we can bring that down.

we may even be an exporter of energy at some point when you consider all our resources. but this is where we should be devoting our federal dollars, not on trying to put money into businesses which often fail. instead, putting money into technology, science and research. we do that and you will see new opportunities to get america and north america energy independent. what are the benefits of all this? if we actually get there, and i am planning on getting there. if i get elected, we're going to get there. [applause] let me tell you what the benefits are. 3 million jobs. 3 million jobs come from doing this. 3 million jobs. that is 1 million in manufacturing. that's a lot of energy-related jobs. 3 million jobs come back to this country by taking advantage of something we have underneath their feet. that is oil, gas, and coal. we're going to make it happen and create those jobs. it adds $500 billion to the

size of our economy. that is more good wages and the opportunity for more americans to have a bright and prosperous future. it also means potentially hundreds of billions of dollars of tax revenues going into states and federal government which can make sure we have a military second to none and schools that lead the world and care for our seniors, better roads and bridges. [applause] accomplishing what i described right there means lower energy prices for american families. by the way, for american businesses, so that as businesses are thinking about or to build a factory and a look at the cost of production of a particular product, they see in north america, we have ample energy and it is low cost. that will bring businesses back here. he will see more manufacturing come back to the united states as a result of doing what is so clearly in our best interest. [applause]

by the way, we have all noticed the trade deficit. that's how much more we buy from other people than they buy from us. doing what we describe will reduce that trade deficit by 80%. think of the impact of that. [applause] let me mention something else -- we have to have a national security strategy which takes into account the fact america will be stronger if we have all the energy we need to power our economy and our military. this is not just a matter of economy and jobs and rising incomes and a growing economy and more tax revenues. it is also more security. it means we don't have to rely on people who sometimes don't like us very much. america will be able to stand on its own. the can stand with our friends

from mexico and canada and make sure we have all of the energy we need to make sure our military never has to borrow from some across the ocean that might not be our best friend. [applause] i happen to believe if you do what i described, and i'm planning on doing it when i get elected, if we do that, and those other four things i described which are fixing our schools and training programs and making sure we improved trade and make trade work for america and finally tackle our deficit and champion small business, you do those things and this economy is going to come roaring back. [applause] the other day, the vice president was talking about how things are getting some much better for the middle class in

america. i wish you'd go out and talked to some people and the people across this land. it's not getting better for the 23 million people out of work or stop looking for work it's not getting better for people who are seeing their incomes go down and their costs go up. it's not getting better for people getting out of college and can't find work. what i have described here will make things better for the middle-class america. people all over this country will be convinced again it's great to be middle-class america. moms and dads will no kids coming out of school will be able to get a good job. this is critical for our generation, the coming generation, and for the world. i say for the world because people around the world look to america. they need a strong america. they know a strong america is essential to peace on the planet. a strong america keeps the world's worst actors from doing the world's worst things. i had the privilege a few weeks ago of a meeting with lech

walesa. he said through an interpreter that you are probably tired. you sit down and listen, so i did. he began to speak for about 15 minutes uninterrupted and his message was straightforward. he repeated it again and again -- where is american leadership? we need america's leadership. america is the only superpower on the planet. we need america to be strong. [applause] getting north american energy independence is key to american leadership. so is fixing our schools and balancing our budget, making trade work for us and understanding the power of small business, individual initiative, hard work. this is what america is all about. i have been inspired as i've gone across the campaign trail for the last months and i have seen americans who have taken the initiative to try to build

enterprises for themselves and improve the lives of their families. i am inspired by the power of individuals, of a person in a family changing the life of the other people in the family. my sister does that. my sister has eight kids. she is so enthusiastic and positive and energetic. she has raised a terrific kids. seven of them are married. the eighth is a down syndrome boy, he is 43. she is 75. her husband passed away so jeffrey lives at home with her. she devotes her life to caring for him and caring for their kids and grandchildren. the impact of one person of a strong personality enormous in a family. also in an economy. i have got across the country and that a entrepreneurs of all kinds and i am impressed by their capacity to lift others

through their ideas. i met a woman who had her own business and i said, how did you get your company started? she said my husband lost his job and he took a class in abbas -- in upholstering. she hired him as turf first employee. she went on to hire 40 more people and she has a successful upholstery business. another woman in high point, n.c. a few days ago. she is in the furniture business. hard to compete with china in the furniture business and other foreign sources but she found a way to do it to save her business and the jobs of the people who work for her. she decided she would focus her furniture in one small segment. she makes furniture for waiting rooms and hospitals and she does it well. by virtue of that inside in making a superb and quality product, she has been able to maintain her business and the

jobs of 27 people who work with her. i met another guy who was able to change the lives of a lot of other people. he is in southern illinois, graduated second in his high school class, second from the bottom. and he decided college was not in his future. he talked to his dead about a loan. his dad agreed to loan him the money to get a business started. they split 50-50. he was going to be in the food business. he went out to buy a hamburger grill and a hot dog roller. and one of those hoods that takes out the smoke. it was more expensive than he had money for. the only thing he could do was make sandwiches city set up tables in a garage and delivers

them to people at business. now his business is known as jimmy john's. he employs 60,000 people. one person making a difference. it is an amazing thing, america where individual initiative, individual know how, hard work, people pursuing their own course, their own dreams have built america. freedom has built america. when the founders crafted the founding documents, they said our rights came from god. not from government. a lot -- among them were life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. that is what makes us the unique exceptional nation we are. individuals, kids in school, political leaders, willing to

take risk and make a difference. it is what makes america what we are. the president thinks it is somehow government that mixes we are. that is not the answer. the answer is to rely on individuals and their passions. i will return america to the freedoms that we have all now come in bringing to us, in each individual the capacity to achieve, to pursue their dreams, i love america at. i love the principles upon which america was founded. if we do those things comerica will come roaring back. we will keep america the shining city on the hill. we will get new mexico to help me become first next president. we will keep it great for the entire century. great to be with you. [applause]

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>> mitt romney will be traveling from new mexico to join his vice-presidential running mate in michigan. there will hold a rally in commerce commission and ahead of the republican convention in tampa. we will have live coverage at 12:00 a 5:00 p.m. eastern. -- 12:05 p.m. eastern. jay carney was asked about the brahney energy plan. here is what he had to say. >> the campaign is promoting stepson energy today. some of the goals they're laying out creating more than 3 million jobs [inaudible]

energy independence by 20 -- 2020. does the president think some of these goals are feasible? >> what the president believes is we need to pursue a policy that embraces the bold and robust, all the above approach to energy. and what we now is that the policy the president has pursued hazlet already to the doubling of production of renewable energy from sources like wind and solar since the president took office. under his leadership and during his presidency, domestic production of oil and gas, natural gas has increased and our reliance on imports of foreign oil has decreased to its lowest level in i think something like 16 years and i think what distinguishes the

president's approach, all of the above approach to our energy future from the republican approach is that the republican approach is essentially one that is written by or dictated by big oil and focuses almost entirely on oil and fossil fuels. this president believes we need to embrace all forms of domestic energy production including oil, including natural gas, including nuclear energy which as you know, this administration has invested in for the first time in 30 years. including grenoble's like wind and solar. while the republican approach denigrates forms of energy like wind, this president believes that investing in renewable energy is essential to enhancing our energy independence.

i would know as the president did last week that congressman ryan has called wind energy a fad, and maybe governor romney called it imaginary. this is a narrow view and a dangerous view, if you think about how important energy security is, and domestic production of energy is to our national security interests. this president will continue to push for an all the above energy approach that ensures that we will aggressively pursue domestic oil and gas production and we will aggressively pursue renewable energy production and make that investment is necessary to secure our future. >> some of the components include increased drilling and -- off the coast of virginia and florida, increased energy production on federal lands. does the president think there is a place in american energy policy for some of these ideas

that governor romney is proposing today? >> i can tell you that as you know, under the present, we have increased production on federal waters and lands. the administration finalized a plant that will build on the millions of acres we have made available for production offshore by making 75% of offshore resources available for production. i think again if you look at the president's record of a has been very aggressive in pursuing ways to increase domestic production of energy. he has done it in a way that is mindful of the need to produce it in a safe and reliable fashion. one other point that i would note. representative of the president's approach on all of the above approach of energy, we have now more coal miners employed in this country then we have had in the past 15 years. this president believes that america's national security and energy independence depends on

complete all of the above approach. not focusing solely on domestic oil and gas production and insisting on continuing oil and gas subsidies while ending the production of tax credits, the wind energy tax credit that is so important to the development of the wind energy industry in this country as the president talked about last week in which you know his opponents in this election opposed despite the fact that republicans in key states where wind energy is important support extending that wind energy tax credit. >> we're in the countdown to the conventions. gavel-to-gavel coverage of the republican convention from tampa. live here on c-span. your front row seat to the conventions. talks about her group's priorities this season and the four looks at the impact

of state legislators under the age of 30. that is followed by neil munro discussing his work for the on- line news source. >> what do we see when we look at the dead at antitam? by describing those bodies in great detail and often stopping in the middle of that detailed description and then saying it is too horrible. i cannot actually put this into words. words cannot convey this. >> this weekend on american history tv, megan nelson discusses the impact of the images of dead soldiers on the american public during the civil war. saturday at 10:00 p.m. eastern. also -- >> america will stand up for the ideals that we believe in it when we are operating at our

best and who want to see this country perhaps above all else return to the path of peace. >> more from the contenders. our series that looks at key political figures who ran for president and lost but changed political history. this week, 1972 democratic nominee george mcgovern. sunday at 7:30 p.m. deadline american history tv this weekend on c-span3. . >> friday, mitt romney and paul ryan will be campaigning in michigan. we will be live from commerce, michigan. the republican national convention starts on monday weather forecasters are warning that hurricane it is it did impact tampa during the convention.

the rescue chief out why some of the emergency preparedness efforts his department is making for the convention. >> in addition to two your fire chief, i where the hell out of the manager. afford for it addition to this grand party will be having, understand that the right to the concerns and issues and actions will continue to go on.

we have to maintain the health and fitness of that environment and provide real time information on what is happening. the office of emergency management has a specific location and a specific centered. the chief is responsible for all of our suppression operations, all of the units that are out there and the committee that will be responding. -- is responsible for moving all of those rescued cars in the event that there is major concerns.

the chairs the health and medical subcommittee which has looked at every concern and consideration we will have. one of the major concerns that we have at this time and this particular time of the year is we are in a season which is our most intimate weather season with respect to hurricanes, tropical storms, a tornado activity, and bad weather patterns. in the emergency operations center, every respected community and the many members that have gone out and spoken, each of those divisions and apartments will have representation in the emergency operations center. table of command and control with respect to the people involved in the actual action- oriented posture and the weather

in the convention area and we are doing our regular posture in the city. severe weather provides a concern. in this will be the national weather service. the national weather service will be there to provide real- time data on atmospheric conditions and weather patterns that might impact our community as well as the rnc. some people will have trouble with a heat index. we have stood up major hydration throughout all of the viewing routes, throughout the parade routes. we have a number of portals as well in the event that people will need an event in those areas, we will have a number of

major community access. i think that our chief of staff refers to them as either our honey pocket build. we don't have those areas where they are divided. we will have a first-aid station out there for those that are not recognized early on as having been negatively impacted by the heat index so that we can get these people into the first bid stations and get them we hydrated or move them up to a more advanced protocol. in addition to the emergency management, in addition to providing the mayor real-time information on the care and fitness with respect to the entire city, not just the rnc, but every community that you might think will be impacted by us putting a major focus on the anc. i'm here to tell you that you can expect no degradation in

service in your respective communities. we have decentralized the emergency response vehicles to make sure we have operable response protocols and place to get those units to you whether you need a fire truck or a rescue car. we have your back, so you can rest assured on that. just a couple of pictures of what the mercy operations center looks like. whether it is a natural disaster, floods, hurricanes, man-made disasters. terrorism, civil disturbances, and superbowl or in the and event like we have a big dance like we are getting ready to have. we will provide that oversight with real time and all of our

parties, all of our departments, all of our departments provide information with what is going on. we can be expeditious and making certain that those areas are like you have been accustomed to during these processes. this is the outline of what it looks like. again, and ever respected department. every division in this community including our private partners as well and they are included with real needs that can make decisions about those. this is a call center. the mayor recognized it would be very easy for the emergency operations center to become overwhelmed with a bunch of

concerns and calls concerning the rnc. we have this call center. he has made this call center stand up to provide all the information you need regarding the rnc. ask that you focus on calling the rnc for rnc concerns and the -- for the city concerns these are some of the many and as an divisions and apartments that will be represented and this is just a way -- this is just to name a few.

the u.s. coast guard has been a friend of ours. that will provide guidance. i want all of you to be familiar with the number. in the event of a city concern or a city department, that is the number i want you to call. the flyers will go out and a number of venues and you will continue to get those. if you have all rnc specific questions, contact them directly. obviously, this is the big dance out on the water. severe weather operations. that has the propensity to happen. there will be increase

coordination with the national weather service to we can get that information out to the mayor and that ordination with the rnc committee and those officials so that they can make informed decisions on any type of operations that will be surrounding the rnc event. this information will be continuous and ongoing. regular street closures, and the conditions that we feel certain that our community must be aware of. obviously, we will want you to monitor all of your local news channels. we have tremendous partners in this community. the partners provide us a tremendous support to provide the health and fitness and they will be down along those corridors, underneath across

towns and all of those other areas helping with the distribution of water, ideation materials, making certain that the portable restrooms are enough. >> the republican national convention starts monday in tampa. the keynote speaker will be governor chris christie of new jersey. senator marco rubio will deliver the introduction of mitt romney, who speaks on thursday. it will have gavel-to-gavel coverage of the republican national convention on c-span. >> what do we see when we look at the dead? they responded to this in two ways. one, by describing those bodies in great detail.

and then often stopping in the middle of thathat detailed description and say, it is too horrible. words cannot convey this. >> this weekend, a discussion on the impact of the images of dead soldiers on the american public during the civil war. saturday at 10:00 p.m. eastern. also this weekend -- >> america will stand up for the ideals that we believe and when we are operating at our best and we want to see this country perhaps above all else return to the path to peace. >> our series looks at key political figures that ran for president and lost the changed political history.

>> a look at issues related to women this election season. terry o'neil, president for the national organization for women was a guest on "washington journal." >> our goal is to get the word out about what is at stake for women in the 2012 elections. this is a hugely consequence of election. i am sure that your viewers are very much aware of the enormous scandal i think going on around comments.todd akin's

he said that women who are raped cannot get pregnant. these are issues that are very very serious for women. my job and my organization's job is to get that message out. it it's not just about women's reproductive health care that is at stake this year. women's economic security is very much on . we know that the middle class is struggling to in this country. -- women's economic security is very much on the line. women, and support over half of the middle-class families in this country, the romney-ryan budget brings medicare down to about your program that has an enormous and disproportionate impact on women. it sets up social security for benefit cuts that congress could not slowdown. very disproportionate impact on

women. the cuts to medicaid proposed in the romney-ryan budget would have a very disproportionate impact on women and would force thousands of nursing homes around the country to close. the proposed budget would slash an entire range of social programs that women rely on and that employment as teachers and nurses and nurses' aides and child care workers and social workers. so there is an enormous amount of stakes. this is an election in which i think the positions are very starkly different between the obama-biden ticket and the romney-ryan ticket, so women have a clear choice. host: the todd akin controversy, what has that done to your efforts, to your fundraising, but to people interested in your? aspects of the your

happeninghink what's is women around the country are paying very close attention. they will now be paying very close attention to what the republicans say in their convention, but they will also read carefully the republican platform. the todd akin controversy has put a spotlight on these issues. , issues. -- issues, i think. we need that controversy to help us with our fund-raising because we need to get the word out, and that takes resources. i think the latest polls are showing an increasing gender gap between republicans and democrats. i think that gender gap will grow.

i think it's a good thing for a national spotlight to be on these very important issues. -- i think that the gender gap will grow. voters will really know what they are voting for when they go to the polls. we're working very hard. we are partnering with other women's organizations to get this word out. i think moderate women, independent women voters, they are the ones taking a close look at this. they will be voting -- my prediction is they will be leaving the republican party in droves and voting for democrats in droves. i would like to say that my organization is a non-partisan organization. i think there's a real problem for the republican party to be so dominated by a very thin slice of the extreme faction in its party. the party leadership policies, the shutting down of family planning clinics, and cyber control, anti-abortion even for victims of rape or or for women who need to terminate their pregnancies for their health, those types of policies are not shared by the vast majority of voters in this country and are not shared by mainstream republican voters.

i am hoping that this election cycle will demonstrate to republican party leadership that they need to come back more to the center and be more in tune with the mainstream of what voters really want in terms of policy. host: here are two articles that are related to what terry o'neill has been talking about this morning -- female voters in campaign 2012 is the topic. terry o'neill is the president of the national organization for women. she's joining us from virginia beach, virginia. that does not look like a virginia beach behind you.

guest: i am here visiting friends and family. host: the numbers are on the screen in case you would like to dial in,/political association. mike is on our independent line from minnesota. caller: good morning. there was a study that i saw on one of the learning or discovery channel's that had to do with some lady, i believe she was a member of now that wanted to find out whether males dominate in the animal kingdom like in the human species. they strutted apes, and ducks, baboons, -- they studied. they also did a study in england where they are much more sexually inhibited -- uninhibited. host: what's your question?

caller: the question has to do with women are going to find out that they control life itself. and legitimate rape has to do with pleasure vs unpleasure it. host: we will move on to ron on our independent line. caller: i have been following this thing very closely. no one wants to really admit that race is at hand. from the time that gentleman called the president a liar, it seems that the democrats talk to their tails between their legs. the republicans have gotten away with every sort of thing imaginable. it is very disgraceful that we are in a time that we are with

the rest of the world is going forward. america is stuck in racism and sexism. it is very shameful. thank you very much. i'm a first-time caller. host: thanks for calling. terry o'neill, you said that there's a real gender gap when it comes to voting, men going more republican and women going more democratic. what is your view of that? is that a good thing or a negative thing? guest: i think it is an indication of how the republican party is going in an entirely the wrong direction. women are over 50% of the voting population of this country. you would think such a large proportion of the country would be a little more evenly distributed across the political spectrum.

i think women are more or less evenly distributed across the political spectrum compared to the entire population. what is happening is that the republican party leadership is leading mainstream people behind, men and women. that said, it is true that women tend to vote more progressive than men. some studies show that. but i think the enormous gender gap we are beginning to see is a reflection of how out of step with the mainstream of american society the republican leadership has become. that's a terrible pain. we have a two-party system in this country. we rely on both parties to provide options for voters, to provide choices for voters that actually would reflect the voters policy preferences. right now the republican party leadership is pushing policies that don't reflect what the majority of people in.

-- of people in this country want. that does not mean they cannot get elected. -- right now the republican party leadership is pushing policy that don't reflect what the majority of people want. people we don't respect or reflect the views of the majority of people in this country, those politicians can still get elected. one of the reasons you are seeing this enormous gender gap is precisely because of with a lot of money coming in, in 2010, many politicians getting elected that don't reflect what the american people want. now women and men are looking and saying what to you mean, you are opposed to birth control? the blunt amendment in the senate in the springtime and the companion bill in the house, which vice-presidential candidate paul ryan from supported, which would block women's access to birth control. that's way out of step. i think the gender gap is a

symptom of something that is going very wrong with politics in this country. host: the next call from terry o'neill comes from kara in massachusetts on our republican line. caller: i would like to make two quick comments. number one, this election concerns more than just the women's movement in this country. second, the remark about todd akin absolutely blows my mind. she knows and i know and the country knows he was referring to the thousands of men who are sitting in prisons today who were wrongfully convicted of rape by vindictive woman or spouses looking for a favorable results in court. that cannot be denied. it's wrong and that they are taking that out of context.

host: any comments? guest: that is -- i have frequently heard that, that somehow women who say they have been raped are lying because they're being vengeful against the men they have accused. two problems. first, the studies are very clear that rape is a seriously underreported crime in this country, that it has begun to be treated seriously only toward the end of the 20th century in this country. the violence against women act has brought us a long way toward preventing raped and stopping it from happening, but we have a long way to go. rape is a surge in this country. women do not claim they have been raped lightly because very often they feel the system then betrays them.

many women report they feel raped a second time when they make the accusation and try to bring the perpetrators to justice. so that's a problem. but i do want to say something on what the caller said about individuals being wrongly convicted. the good news is that we do have dna testing that and much more accurately identify a rapist. the dna process has resulted in freeing a number of individuals who were wrongly convicted of a number of crimes. so that needs to go forward. rape kids around the country are languishing for lack of resources to process them. -- rape kits around the country. we need to get serious about processing those and putting resources into them to make sure they are processed. because of the violence against

women act and because of dna testing and appropriateness forensic rape examinations, we have learned that although one- quarter of women will be raped in her lifetime, it's not all the case that one-quarter of men are perpetrators. rape is very much a serial crime. it's a small minority of men committing a large number of rapes. dna testing can help us find them and put them in prison where they belong. host: on july 11, 2012, now endorsed president obama and vice-president biden for reelection. here is the announcement.

>> both for the republican party took the equal rights amendment out of its plant. they used to have pro-choice politicians that rose to the ranks. that is not true anymore. somebody sent me a republican who is in favor of women's rights, who supports equal marriage for same sex couples, who understands women's needs for a full range of productive -- reproductive health care, who understands women's needs for economic security, who understands that women cannot have equal pay for equal work and is willing to take a leadership role in changing that fact. i believe that the state level and at the local level, there are some republican policy makers that now chapters can't

work with and indorse. we are nonpartisan, we are for the women. -- there are some republican policy makers that now chapters can work with and indorse. some have shown themselves to be supportive of elements rights. they're putting us on the right path towards the polity. that is what we look at. host: last week, sabrina schaefer was our guest and she talked about paul ryan. we want to get your reaction. >> paul ryan is seen as a true fiscal conservative. when governor romney selected him, it was a moderate to conservative voters who want to see him standing up for free market policy prescriptions. when he selected paul ryan, that was extremely helpful to him i amongst his base. there was new blood for the left to say, look out that he is, he

is going to be one of those conservatives who hates women. caller: paul ryan's policies could not be worse for women. they are absolutely devastating. first, let's take a look at what is most proud of and what he wants to highlight. that budget devastates women. classifications. only in 25 out of over 50 hundred job classifications recognized by the bureau of labor statistics. women have 50% or more of the jobs in those. women are two thirds of minimum- wage workers. paul ryan's policies would devastate low-income workers by taking away things like food stamps and headstart and bell grants and after-school programs.

these are all programs women disproportionately rely on. a woman who currently is benefiting from an after-school program in her community, sheik innkeeper job because she knows if battered child or children have a safe place to go after school. but if that's good program is shut down, which under paul ryan's plan it would be, she's going to lose her job. -- a woman who currently is benefiting from an after-school program in her community, she can keep her job because she knows her children are in a safe place after school. i don't know if paul ryan hates women, but i know the policies are fiercely anti woman and that's a fact. host: an independent in fairview, oklahoma, you are on.

caller: good morning, c-span, and thank you, terry for the work you do. i've been a big fan of c-span3 retired. i watched the house and the bills they're passing. why we got into this mess is the republicans are all about saying one thing and doing another, which is evidenced by the bill pass. go to the government web sites and see what they've done this year. you'll be amazed at three- quarters of the bills they passed concern abortion, controlling women's right to choose., choose it is just ridiculous. i don't know if the public is being fooled by what they say on television, but caring organizations like hers need to let people know what's going on

so we can stop being fooled by these pretenders who are not what they say are. host: terry o'neill. guest: thank you very much. i appreciate those comments. i have heard from other corners not within the women's movement expressing concern that in the media there is an effort to be bipartisan as opposed to nonpartisan. i think it's really important for everyone to reflect on the difference between being bipartisan, where you say the republicans have one view of it and the democrats have another and they are equal and we are going to present these two people views. that's my view of bipartisanship. on partisanship is telling the truth. tell the truth about a particular policy even if it turns out that the truth about that policy makes the person who was pushing that policy look really bad. if it's a bad policy, it needs

to be identified as a categorically that policy. to say that paul ryan is a fiscal conservative really does not capture paul ryan's policy agenda. he is a radical transferfer of wealth. the romney-ryan budget has been described by an economist, a well-known economist, as being the single largest wealth transfer from middle income and low-income families to the very wealthiest in this country that our country has ever seen. the romney-ryan budget, by the way, it is not fiscally conservative in the sense that it does not reduce the federal budget deficit. it simply takes money from one sector of the economy and ships it to another sector. all the savings from cutting medicare -- i'm sorry, converting medicare to a voucher program, cutting medicare, cutting social

security benefits, cutting all these social programs, all the savings from that goes to increased military spending and enhanced tax breaks for millionaires and corporations. there is virtually no deficit reduction. if you want to be non-partisan, you really have to be reporting that the romney-ryan budget shifts money to the wealthy even though they feel that makes them look bad. if they are bad, the need to be reported as being such. that's not a failure of neutrality. i think it's a conversation that is beginning to be had within journalism circles and in the media about how to report something truthfully even when the side that feels it been made to look bad does not like the truth host: our next caller is on a line from virginia, annie. caller: i'm glad i got in with terry o'neill because i like what she is saying. if i'm opposed to how they say a woman can ms. carrier when

she is raped, i know how it feels to be raped. my other statement is republicans should be uncovered for what they have been their whole lives. mitt romney never had to want for anything, never had to wonder how he was gone to take his children to the doctor, always had money to do that. i am so appalled at how they disrespect. are disrespect i think they only do that because he's a man of color.

they respected president bush. they cannot even say "president obama." thanks for speaking up for women. it is sad when they try to take us back to where we came from. thanks for listening. host: terry o'neill it. guest: they really are troubling. tod a. can is pursuing a policy to outlaw abortion even in cases of rape or. it is exactly the same policy

that called ryan is a very aggressively in favor of. paul ryan, on a number of occasions, has voiced the opinion that women live. that women cannot be trusted, that women are deceitful about their health, and whether they have been raped. for example, paul ryan was a sponsor of a bill in congress that restricted women's access to abortion care with a rape exception but only if the rate was "forcible." the reason for having this

qualification on the rape exception is the belief that a woman will lie about having been raped. she has to show broken bones or cuts on her body. that's the only time to believe her when she is raped. that is deeply disrespectful of women. that is something paul ryan himself has supported. he was on the floor of the house of representatives on tape for the complaints about how women are deceitful and a lie about their health status. he does not want any exceptions to abortion. in cases where the abortion is needed to protect a woman's health. the reason he does not want any exceptions is because he believes that women will be deceitful and the lie about their health status in order to have an abortion. women who have breast cancer, whose birth control fails, are dealing with breast cancer that

affects the entire family. she needs to terminate the pregnancy to insure her help. this policy of being anti abortion even when it is necessary to protect a woman's health minister family has to come up with 5-$10,000, the entire oncology team needs to be involved. paul ryan would allow that woman to suffer that way because he believes that women generally are deceitful and would lie about their health status. there's something very wrong with that attitude. i think the caller really brings that up. look to your left and look to your right, someone you know has been sexually assaulted.

it is a trauma and what society needs to do is provide services for survivors and accountability for perpetrators and not sharing the victim -- and not shame the victims. guest: i think party loyalty is a very strong thing. i am glad there are women who are staunch republicans. some women share the views of politicians like paul ryan. i think there are a large number of republican women who have worked in the party for a very long time and are determined to make a positive contribution to their community through the republican party. my hope is that those women will be allowed to come up into leadership and bring the party more to the center and have a

republican party that is more in tune with the policy preferences of women of this country. host: next call, we have about 10 minutes, houston, texas, sandra on our republican line. go ahead. caller: i would like to tell this woman that i am a staunch republican and i am anti abortion. i believe in certain circumstances but all of those women out here in america -- are concerned is aborting little babies. you are so interested in saving the well and the seals and saving the world but to don't care about a tiny infant baby. there is something wrong with you people. one of these days, you're going to pay for it.

the good lord is not going to let you slaughter the little babies and not pay for it. how in the world can you justify going in there and ripping that little thing out. there is something wrong with you and i will always be a republican as long as you democrats are slaughtering millions of little babies. guest: yes, that very passionately held view does exist. i have talked to a large number of women over the years. i lived in louisiana for 20 years teaching at tulane university. many women have told me that they think abortion is wrong. they think it is a sen. --sin but sometimes a woman has to do something that is wrong some women have said when her

daughter had her abortion, we thought was wrong but we were glad was available. sometimes doing the wrong thing is the right thing to do. it is astonishing how difficult this issue is. i have to tell you the truth -- my view of abortion is that it is health care. it is part of women's reproductive health care. one in three women will have an abortion by the age of 45. it is an extremely common and necessary aspect of women's reproductive health care. the rate of abortion would probably go down if we had better birth control which thanks to obama care, women have now much better access to reliable and safe birth control. the reality is, abortion this health care and everyone has the absolute right which no one can legitimately take from her.

no one can legitimately take away a woman's right to be in charge of her own health care. host: here is a tweet -- guest: absolutely, the push to get women into the agusta golf club was the brainchild of the national council of the women's organization, a coalition of women's organizations from around the country when martha burke was the chair of the national council. she proposed that augusta national golf club should come into the 21st century and start telling women. it has been well over a decade but it has finally happened. i am very happy for condoleezza rice and marla moore, the two women who have been admitted. i look forward to the time when

half the members are women. i think that is appropriate. host: do you think a private club like that should be able to maintain its own policies whether or not hutu had met? guest: absolutely not. augusta is not a private club. that is not a book club. is a place where business gets done. it is a place where the ceo's of the top corporations in the country do deals, talk business, and that needs to be open up completely to wittman. if the augusta national golf club wants to change its position in the country, if they want to become a small little book club or a small little golf club, fine, but they are not. these are clubs where people of

color and women need to be openly admitted on the same basis as anyone else. host: here is another tweet - guest: abortion care generally is a safe outpatient procedure and it is not appropriate to have medical procedures done in one place when it is more appropriate to have them done in another. some abortion are purportedly done in hospitals. one of the most unfortunate things that has ever happened in the last several hundred years is the demonization and politicization of abortion care. abortion care, like all other aspects of women's reproductive health care, should be dealt

with as health care, as medically appropriate. we need to have ongoing research so that madison -- medicine provides women with health care they need. we need to do more research, provide better care overall for women and that includes abortion care. over 90% of abortions take place in the first trimester at a time when most appropriate facility as an outpatient facility. host: from annapolis, maryland,- caller: thank you so much. i am a naturalized american citizen. this is a great country but it has not yet gotten past racism and sexism. a violation of a woman against her wishes is plain and simple unacceptable and an advanced

country like america. i happen to be an independent. when a woman is raped and she gets pregnant, it should be plain and simple as her taking the appropriate steps to protect her body from the ongoing reminder of her ordeal. i don't understand why this is even being debated. no one should be telling a woman how she should handle for situation especially after she has already been raped. she will continue to be reached for the rest of her life? that is ridiculous but it is being discussed. my point is that a woman should be allowed to abort the child if that's what she chooses to do. some women may not do because of their beliefs but if a woman wants to report a child, i don't understand what this is a discussion. thank you so much. guest: the ongoing issue of racism as well as sexism in our

country is important. there are troubling studies that show extraordinary disparities across racial lines of wealth. it has to be dealt with. the median net worth of white families so far exceed the median net worth of african- american families and the median net worth of latino families, it is mind-boggling. we need to address that in this country. that correlates directly with health outcomes. studies show a huge racial disparities in health outcomes among women. that is something we desperately need to address. the other thing the caller mentioned is what a woman decides to do after she has been raped. women need to be told by every single hospital she goes to after she has been written about the availability of emergency contraception that can prevent pregnancy after rep.

hospitals should be required as a matter all lot to not only provide information but provide the emergency contraception after the rape. beyond that, there are 31 states in this country that, believe it or not, allow rapists to impregnate their victims and exert fathered rights. that legal right has been used in a number of cases to avoid prosecution. he will trade off his agreement to stop trying to have access to the child in return for her agreement not to hold them criminally responsible. it is completely outrageous. there are 31 states that allow this to happen. that needs to change.

host: last call comes from winona, new jersey, a democrat, you are on c-span. caller: when my daughter was 13 years old, some animal broken to my house, rape and sodomized her, he was caught and had done many rigs before and my daughter was brought to the hospital and given something to make sure she was not going to get pregnant. i did not want the little baby of that animal inside my daughter and pray on her for the rest of her life. it is ridiculous to tell somebody that after an animal rights and an innocent girl -- rapes and as a girl that they should carry the baby to term. paul ryan is in favor of that. watch out. thank you very much. guest: i want to reach out to

the caller and i thank you for calling. i am so sorry this happened to you. when a rape happens, it happens not just of the woman but it usually happens to her entire family. it is traumatic, deeply traumatic, and my heart goes after you and your family and thank you very much for speaking out about it. it is important for us to hear the stories. host: terry o'neil, the president of now, thank you for being with us. >>thomas burr discusses mitt romney's mormon faith and the role of religion in the campaign. and then harold quinn talks about the ruling by the d.c. court of appeals striking down an epa regulation. sahil kapur will be here as part

of the online media series. >> we are in the countdown to the convention. gavel-to-gavel coverage of the republican convention from tampa live here on c-span, you're front-row seat to the conventions. coming up, the national conference of state legislators looks at the next generation of leaders under 30. and then neil monroe discusses -- munro. >> this weekend on the book to the beginning sunday at 4:00 eastern from his 2010 interview with juan williams -- >> they thought the president was not going to be a strong

defender of american principles, human rights, free trade, enterprise. those words of apology and those statements have emboldened and those who find this as a weekend enemy. >> later in the book, "the real romney," part of our book tv weekend on c-span 2. >> a look at some of the nation's state legislators under the age of 30 and the impact they're having on american politics. the national conference of state legislators hosted this discussion. >> and good morning. i am the author of the next generation young elected officials and their impact on

american politics. it is my pleasure to welcome you for what i hope will be a very exciting lively entertaining and educational session on young legislative staffers. we have a dynamic panel of both legislators, partisan staffers, and a non-partisan staffer. i would like to thank the staff coordinating committee and the young professionals program for posting to the's panel discussion. i want to start off with a little bit of background on the topic to help lead into today's discussion and throw it to the panelists. young elected officials i define as 35 years and under. when i came with the idea for the book about six years ago, it comes from the fact a lot had been written about why eight somebody may be in their 20's or

even a teenager runs for elected office. you get the quirky story of, a young guy runs for office. you do not get why they are running. who are these people. what impact they have on public policy? what drives them one thing i have noticed is a lot of young people who run for office and choose to get involved as political staffers, a reason they decide to do it is that there is an idea of, i will do it. that is the idea of why i decided to write the book -- i will do it. i wanted to touch on a few quick facts. not only were 13 presidents in

the 20th-century starting as young elected officials, in 2008, three out of four of major candidates started as young elected officials. president obama was in his 30's when elected to the senate. vice president biden was 29 when he was elected to the u.s. senate. sarah palin was in her 20's when she was elected to the city council in wasilla, alaska. in some states, you see a lot to people running for state legislators and an early age, in especially in the midwest. one of our panelists is from missouri. others who do not have term limits, ill., or my home state, new jersey -- the start at a younger age. i want to point that there is one district i have found incredibly fascinating. it is a multi-member district. we have one senator and two house members from it. until sometime in 2009, every single legislator from that

district was under the age of 30. senator schneider had a birthday. one of the members had won this year. the district -- there are a lot of people in their 20's running. there one incumbent is here, from the district in grand forks. the old guy, in his late 20s's. that district is interesting -- the university of north dakota dominates it. one last thing before we go to the panel -- one thing i found in interviewing current and former young elected officials around the country is for things that sort of drives them to run for office. one, the person who wants to make politics their career and says, i want to be governor, i went to the senator, i want to be president. they decide to start at a young age. the second, and it will be

interesting to see what our staffers have to say, the person who starts off as a legislative staffer, primarily in a partisan staff or on a personal staff, who then decides i will run for office. is the next up on their career path. the next, and there are several examples of this, like the minority leader in new jersey or any from york assembly -- they are the son of a politician. that is the family driver, drives them to run for office. the last one is idealism. somebody who wants to go out there, they feel they want to make change. that is how they are doing it. i found multiple examples of this. three that come to mind immediately are actually three are iraq and afghanistan war veterans. there are multiple veterans running for office. there were three in my book to were definitely driven by idealism.

one jersey city councilman and two state representatives from missouri. without further ado, i will quickly introduce might panelists by name and then go to them. starting on my left, the minority leader of the arkansas house. tish geiser, clerk of the alaska house. bryen johnson from illinois. jennifer esser from wisconsin. clem smith from missouri. let's start out -- quickly introduce yourself, what drove you to run for office? >> thank you all for being here. i am a state representative from arkansas. i was elected in 2008 and and going into my last term. something we discussed a lot today will be term limits and have that effect youth running

for office. in arkansas we have strict term limits. you are limited to 32-year terms-- 3 two year terms in the house. i was elected at age 23 in 2008. i am now going into my last term, unopposed. i am currently 26. i served as house majority leader for the republican party in arkansas. that is a position i've recently left in march after two years. i would only give that up and passed on to another person. it was an enjoyable position. it was something i enjoy greatly, but it is a job you only want to do for two years, then you are ready to move on. it was an interesting time to be in arkansas, certainly as a republican and the leader of the caucus, just because of national politics and how that affects things on the state level. i am sure will discuss that more. that is a brief biography for me. as far as what may be run for office, i was thinking, everybody knows that if you are going to be president but for the, you have to start early.

[laughter] the truth is that most or run for office because they are driven in some way, not by ambition, that is not always a bad thing, but with national politics being what they are, the political environment being what it is, people are a lot more motivated to get involved on every level. that includes at a under age. my brief story is that i was a manager at wendy's when i was in college, and active in college republicans. i got to know the state representative from my district, two hours south of my home town. i work for a few years as a manager. we got to know each other. one day he came through to get meals for his kids. he handed me his card and said, let's stay in touch. he is now in the senate. as he was leaving the house, so was the legislator from my district. he convinced me it was a good gig to be in the legislature and convinced me to move back to

my home town out of college to run. i was fortunate enough to have support of older people like him in my home district is made possible, but it was really -- in short, i ran for office because somebody serving convince me that it was a worthwhile goal and that you could do it at a young age. that was the main driver for me. >> my name is tish geiser. i am assistant chief clerk and the alaska house. i have been doing that job since 2005. i got my first job working for the legislature in 2004. i was 23. i was a page for the senate finance committee. i fell into that job because, after graduating from college with a political science degree, i have found myself in alaska for the summer. i was working with the cruise ship industry and having a good time. i like the town. it was also the state capital. i thought it would be interesting to try working for a session.

i found that first session to be very exciting, kind of overwhelming. the legislative process was far more complex than my political science u.s. government class in college have led me to believe. i really enjoy the work that i do. i feel like i am well suited for it. it has been compelling. i have not wanted to leave yet. >> good morning. my name is bryen johnson. i am a member of the senate democratic staff in springfield. my job -- i worked as a director of creative services division. we handle a lot of web stuff. we do quite a few things with social media. member websites, things like that. i got into politics in college.

i am a siuc grad. i got to work there at the public policy institute with paul simon. this was 2003, 2002. he kind of gave me my introduction to politics. i took an internship in springfield in 2004 i have since done a lot of different things on staff. i worked with members on communication needs, things like that. there has been a big push towards turning our efforts and focus towards the web. it has been a great thing to be a part of that. we are constantly looking for different ways to improve ourselves and to make sure that people know the good things we are doing. it is a pleasure to be here. i look forward to the discussion. >> good morning. my name is jennifer esser. thank you to everyone for being here and for sending the invitation for me to be on the panel. i began my legislative career in wisconsin state senate, working for our caucus staff. i went on to work for the senate

majority leader. then i went on to work for the senate president as his chief of staff. most recently i worked for senator pat galloway, a freshman lawmaker. unfortunately, she had to resign due to family health issues. she had a lot of things going on. that has led me to my most recent job in the house, working for the majority leader. i got into politics working for political campaigns in high school and into college. i am looking forward to the discussion today. thank you very much. >> thank you for being here. i am clem smith, a state rep. i represent the 71st district in st. louis county. i was elected in 2010, coming to the end part of my first year -- i have an election tomorrow for my second term.

[laughter] good thing i was unopposed, but it was due to a whole lot of good work that first term. i have the pleasure of representing a very diverse district in st. louis county when it comes to economics, racial diversity -- it is a wonderful thing, a wonderful place. how i got into politics was through, i do not want to go that far back, but i will start, it was to the labor union. i worked for chrysler for 13 years. the united auto workers were organized at the plant. they had a political action committee started -- i started volunteering, working on different campaigns. i thought, this is pretty fun. from that, i was promoted to the point where i was lobbying for united auto workers in the capital of missouri. i moved from st. louis city to st. louis county. the representative decided he needed -- wanted to run for

senate, so there was an opening. there were a lot of contacts i had made to being an activist. the opportunity was provided for me to run for state rep. i am here now and i really love the job. >> i want to stay with clem for the first question. there's a lot of this in all the states -- in what ways are young professionals in legislatures speaking outside -- and thinking outside the box and challenging the way the legislature has always done business? >> one-term i learned when i was first elected was that, it is always business -- always been this way. that is a term i am not accustomed to. a lot of stuff, we would go to the session, all of a sudden, the last two weeks were rushing to get everything done. i am still trying to work through and get knowledge to try to see what is going on.

a lot of younger people, i can tell, are not really happy. they say, why are we hear all session if we will wait to the last two weeks, three weeks, to get everything done? you have bills that may not have been thoroughly debated or discussed on the floor. you have a small grouping of individuals that would like to see that change. a lot of this is with ideas -- it was because of term limits that i am in the legislature now. we had a lot of people who were there for a long time, knowledgeable individuals, but when they had to move on, we had the opportunity to run for office and get there and bring new ideas -- changing world, changing time, not that we are doing anything better than they were, but bringing the new perspective is helping with the legislation being filed and some of the ideas being grown or thrown around.

>> i agree with that. i will call them the millennial, the new generation of people. there is a vast difference in how, when i started my career, versus a young co-worker of mine in a former office -- for me, i worked my way up. i do not think people have the time or the patience anymore to do that. they really want to get involved, make a change quickly, and move on to the next thing. i think that is going to be interesting. it is certainly shaking up the legislature in wisconsin. we are electing a lot of younger lawmakers were not in it to be career politicians or career staffers. people want to make a mark quickly and effectuate a change in a more aggressive way, which i think is a really good thing. >> i think i will agree with these two. for my perspective, we are

challenging a lot of the way that we communicate, from old members, members of the past two years. i think that some members believe in it the less is more model. there is, in the way that we communicate today, people want to know information and they know -- want to know it now. they want to know everything there is to know about that 30 seconds ago. our job is to make sure we provide that information to the folks who are seeking that. we have been working with members and trying to get them to buy in to what people are interested in, how they get their news these days. in 2006, there were 44 news correspondents in the capital. now we are down to 26. people are getting their news on the internet these days. we as a staff are trying to turn ourselves into a new

service. my boss is in the back, his name is john paterson -- he worked for the "daily herald." we talk all the time about sds, the senate democrat news service, because that is what we want to turn ourselves into, the place for people come to. we are challenging ways of how to transfer information. is the way that people get their information -- that is the way we are challenging the old way of doing things. >> i totally agree with brian. in the legislature, we see the public is demanding greater and easier access to information. i think that both young professionals and veteran staff are working to accommodate those demands. in fact, one of the women in my

office who, i would say, is maybe our foremost innovator, is also the youngest -- oldest member. as young professionals, we are well suited to meet this challenge because we are ambitious and we have the skill set and are comfortable with technology. i also think that we welcome new approaches. i think, for better or worse, we are not as constricted by traditional boundaries and hierarchies. we are interested in sharing in permission and we want to find new ways to do things. i think that, though we have less experience, this also makes us better suited to adapt to the future because we are more objective. we are not bound to the way things have always been done. i think that those are always -- always that we are challenging the way things have been done. in my role i also have a strong desire to see my work product stay relevant and fresh. that takes work. >> thank you.

i agree with everything that has been said. from serving in the legislature, i joke sometimes, in jest, but some are true, that whatever skills i have in the legislature i have benefited from being so young, because sometimes the legislature can be like high school. if you are 60, it is hard to go back and relearn all the things that may high school high school, but the fact it was a reason for me makes it somewhat easier to deal with. some things that might normally frustrate people serving in office. we have in arkansas a host of young members. there are two here in the audience today. we have a very high percentage of our members under the age of 40, certainly. the perspective that it brings, at least for myself, i would not trade it for the world. i think it helped me tremendously, being young.

it is like everything else you are experiencing, it is what you make of it. i see a lot of older members come in. if you are 60 years old and a successful businessman, you do not see what you do not to be in charge and they want. you get to boss people around. sometimes it is a struggle. a basic role i tried to live by is that, whatever your stereotype is, try not to play into a period being done, i try to the listener, i try to be accommodating. when you are in a building with 135 egos, 100 to define people who think they should be in charge and thus other people around -- 135 people who think they should be in charge and hospital around, being the young and being willing to step back and listen, i struggle with it sometimes, but having the perspective of knowing you did not know everything sometimes is more helpful than hurt or -- hurt for.

>> i will say, as somebody who uses legislative websites on a daily basis, i appreciate them being upgraded to a more user- friendly and easier way to find things. i think there is still a great place for especially online media outlets. >> i would agree with you. we are just trying to compete with you, that is all. >> i welcome the competition. tisha, let's start with you on this one. what is the biggest challenges you have faced as a young professional working in the legislature? what techniques of work to overcome the? >> the biggest challenge has been knowing how and when to initiate change in a culture that really value tradition, history, custom, president. -- precedent. i have developed an approach overtime.

that is, to approach this first of all gradually. it is easy for us when we are coming into our new roles or fresh in then, we see things you would like to change. it is easy to overwhelm our coworkers in trying to do that all at once. i also think that is not always a good idea to initiate change mid-session or in the heat of a moment. an example of this is, one of my jobs is to work on the house journal, an official record of house floor proceedings. the second week of the session, the second of our two-year session, i thought it would be good to change the way we reflect bill's sponsors in the journal. it was quickly decided by myself and my peers that it is probably not a good time to do that for the sake of consistency and clarity. hold on to the ideal and talk -- idea and talk about it in the interim. it is important to make change collectively. as young professionals, it is important for us to seek the advice and perspective of our co-workers who have maybe more experience to offer, a different perspective, and hopefully to get their input in

the change you want to initiate, even though there is the best game might not get behind it. -- reiskin they might not get behind it. it is important to propose changes respectfully. i work with some women who have worked their entire careers working in the legislature. i will come to them with my original idea only to find out that it is not original. it was tried seven years ago and did not work out so well. approaching them with a change needs to be done respectfully and with a little bit of humility. hopefully, keeping those things in mind, there is a balance that can be found between preserving the past and the way things have been done but also adapting to the future and moving forward. >> as far as challenges, i think patience is one that young professionals have a tough time

with. you start working in the legislature and have that first job, you are eager to make that change right off the job. when you are in, you want to be doing different things, getting your legislation passed. you want your member to be on the front stage, communicating on a big issue. i also think that, as a young professional, some folks that i have seen do not have the patience to withstand this beginning years when things might not move as fast as you want to. that is one of the challenges that we face is an professionals. part of dealing with that is being measured in your expectations. that is what i try to preach to the understaffed. we have to be measured in our expectations and, -- younger staff. we have to be measured in our expectations and move forward

slowly. take those successes in and know you are doing something good. >> i would agree. for me, i was mentored by a number of colleagues -- in wisconsin, the senate to work for is a very traditional body. they do not take kindly to people coming in and brought the trying to shake things up. -- a corrupt the trying to shake things up. -- abruptly try to shake things up. i got to know the members first. having their respect makes it easier to sell your ideas. now i have the idea to mentor a number of my colleagues. that is the first thing i say -- sit back a little bit, get to know the members, the colleagues, and you'll do much better. it does not take as long as people think. there is a lot of impatience out there with young professionals. take the time, make the investment, that is something nobody will regret the cure it has been quite a few challenges with me.

--. >> -- it has been quite a few challenges with me. people should already take too seriously, you should not have to prove you are serious about what you are trying to do, being a legislator -- that is one of the problems that happens with me. people are thinking, i am supposed to be in a box already, you are a black legislator, you are younger, you are supposed to do whatever the black caucus tells you what to do. your in box instead of digging to be a person. other individuals, you win an award, somebody is like, i have been here 10 years and i never

got that award. little things, high school years -- high school things, like he said, to happen. it puts you a position where you want to do something bold. it has got to be something good for the people still. sometimes you get a little bit of hate for older members and people who have been in the legislature lugger the new -- along pretty new. people who look at your ideas like to do not know what you are talking about. they say, i have done this -- i say, let's go check with someone else. i say, i am not pulling this out of the sky. this comes from a place and the people i work with. getting people to understand you are serious about this, that this is not a joke, that we are not looking like this -- looking at this like it is west wing, we are planned politicians -- we are here to make a difference. >> on the policy side, i would wake up every morning while i

was getting ready and play the rolling stones "you can not always get what you want." it was followed by "the gambler" by kenny rogers. know when to hold them, know when to fold them. that is always important in a policy perspective, especially when you are in a minority party, you have the democratic governor, all the things you want to do -- you have to push the line as much as you can and then realize you have the best position possible and make a deal, make a compromise, however you want to put it, but realize, when you have done your job as the loyal opposition, knowing what to take, you had effective policy on the level you are supposed to. from a personal -- and this said, there are always stereotypes. i have always seemed that older

members can get away with things that number members cannot. that is true, even though it might not be exactly the same -- and there are always different standards if you are a female or minority legislature, but there are also different standards if you are a young remembered. the older member can wear jeans to a committee meeting and nobody says anything. if i showed up, they would think, john does not take his job seriously. there are things, you cannot begrudge them, you can not just accept them. no matter what profession you are in -- if you are just where, instead of being bitter about, just accepted as the way the world is and probably always will be. do not let it become a hindrance in the way you do your job. do the things that people like to make issues about, do your best and where it matters. >> jennifer, let's start with you on the next question -- what motivated you to get into public service as a young age

or, in the case of john and clem, what motivated you to run for office? >> mine was a combination of idealism and i really did want to run. i had my whole path laid out. i was an undergraduate, working in the capital, then law school, then a run. i made the decision rather quickly that that really was not what i wanted to do, run for office. once i was there, i fell that i was getting to observe -- serve the public in a different way. i appreciate what i can do as a staffer to help my boss to make a change, be it a public policy standpoint, helping the constituents -- i felt extremely fulfilled and that role. i no longer see the need to run for legislative office, but i am grateful to my roots in the campaign, which is what really

motivated me. you mentioned campaigns, how much fun they are to work on, the people you get to meet -- absolutely invaluable experience for me. >> like i said before, i will go back to the beginning. it started when i was younger. my father, there was a department store in st. louis, black people were spending money there but they would not hire them. the naacp and other organizations put a march together. the old man said to us, you are coming with me. i did not know what they were marching about until later on in life. he told me to do it, this is what i will do. fast forward, i am a teenager, 16, 17, watching tv. i see the st. louis city board of aldermen debating. they would play it on public access. they were debating a curfew that was going to affect me. they thought the curfew would

curb crime and put it back in the classroom or whatever they thought it was going to do -- they showed the gallery, nobody was in it. i thought, this guy who does not know me is about to make a decision about how i am going to live. i was not comfortable with that. i have never been comfortable that, i have learned. those were the sparks or what ever. it just later grew when i started working with the legislative committee, at the local i was with -- it grew and grew, and i still never thought, hey, i want to run for office. when you are working for a campaign, you can say things that you cannot say when you are elected. i am like that. i like to speak my mind. sometimes i have to filter it now. i was perfectly comfortable working with the man, next to the man, not wanting to be the man. then i got a call when i moved into that area, saying, hey, you should run. it was not something i sought out to do.

i was working -- i was working 9:00 to 5:00. i still work 9:00 to 5:00 now when we are not in session. it was that sparked early on that nobody can represent me or bring my perspective like i can. since being in the legislature, making that decision process that i will run, it was looking at the makeup of the legislature and thinking, there is nobody like me there. i am a working guy. of average intelligence. but i have something to bring to the table. i wanted to be there. i did not feel like the people up there were representing what i wanted my perspective, my view of the population. i said, hey, instead of just talking about it, let's run this campaign and do something. >> mine was college. i started, when i went there, i wanted to be a reporter.

then i started to take political science class. i took a class called politics and the media. knowing what i know now, it was the two worlds of what i am doing now. it was hosted by a gentleman by name of mike lawrence. he was a press secretary for jim edgar, the former governor. .

i'm a writer and digital media consultant currently the editor of smithsonian magazine's column and i have a new book out in six

months on the rich road to agriculture in american cities. i have been coming to aspen ideas festival for six years and i represent a publication called well changing where is a managing editor. is a small outlets focused on solutions to some of the most pressing problems of the next entry project attended a roundtable session on the future of media and the inclusion of the session was clearly eight -- industry there is a palpable sense that the center need thing was no great threat to the giant publisher so bloggers were -- terrell made and i suspect few people run facebook. things have changed. this year walter isaacson spoke about digital media and is up in remarks and we have been given hashtag for the life tweeting panel. every person from roundtable has developed a robust digital strategy for their brand. if you're listening to the leaders on that roundtable six years ago you might not have

seen pitchers give up the impending disruption but there were emerging leaders in that crowd that year that could've told you not only that massive change was going to calm but that i was our day already happening just outside the digital field of the industry powerhouses. you have calm to hear the best ideas of the moment that the session is going to be a little bit different. today we are going to start with the best ideas of next year or the year after that. the four people you are here fr today are already established leaders in their field. they're also the carriers of the future. they have the vision and understanding required to actively -- in the coming years and we trust you'll agree that these are the kinds of people you want in that role. we are excited to present you with the frontlines of change. >> i am alexis madrigal senior editor at "the atlantic." this session as in keeping with the idea that is going to be different it's going to be logistically different as well. we have four speakers and we

will introduce them in just a second. two of them are speaking solo and their sandwiching people who will do a little too wet. these are going to be fall on presentations as opposed to sort of the more panel discussions that you have seen and they are going to try and really bring you something a fully packaged idea. why we chose these four people aside from -- you know in technologies which is what i mostly write about we talked about the adoption curve and we talked about as a new technology comes to the market like some small percentage of people adopted cell phones or the iphone after came out or computers in the 1980s. but the truth is that lots of different cultural ideas and new practices also have really similar a adoption curves. and so the people that you are looking at here are cultural earl adopters. in their chosen fields they are at the forefront of practice and

are really trying to bring you new ideas before they hit the mainstream. does anyone here know who the artist -- is? [laughter] for people who don't know i want to let you know you all know his work. he is the sculptor of mount rushmore and adam lerner might be the world's foremost expert on mount rushmore. he h his ph.d. from hopkins and american monuments. om there he entered the museum world and the contemporary muse -- museum in baltimore and at the denver art museum. after that he wanted to strike out on his own and so he decided to found an art space in a suburban shopping mall outside of denver shopping complex. is called the laboratory of art in ideas and he quickly established himself as one of the most innovative and creative people in the art world and so when the museum of contemporary arts in denver at the mca came

looking for someone to run their building they found him. there is also -- and inspiration for this session because that denver and ca, he does a program called -- where he pairs unlike speaker so i gave a talk about compressed air and my counterpart gave a talk about art history and alchemy and you defined unexpected connections between these. amanda mitchell, we appropriately met when her project beat our longshot magazine for an innovation of journalism award. she has been at the absolu edge of additional media and politics since things really exist it. do you remain the heart -- [inaudible]

that was amanda. [laughter] she moved to "huffington post" when she had a groundbreaking project off the bus and now has ended up most curiously after a time back in the newspaper the guardian, the u.k. gardian running ma of their social media things. i just want you to believe me when i tell you she isone of the shaest minds in digital media in one of the most articulate advocates for how social media can be just or then marketing. she will be presenting with matt thompson who is sitting to her right and he is the digital media inventor constantly on the edge of what our new realities or scientific changes are in its kind of hard to tell because he is so far beyond what most people are thinking. he runs digital things that mpr and he is another advocate for

digital journalism and all its forms if there are any budding journalists. he is going to entice you to go out and run on code is simply -- quickly as possible. we couldn't have two better people to talk about the future of media and political media. last but obviously not least gustavo arellano sitting right there. i actually met gestapo in the best possible way because my dad was his biggest fan. when he was writing the mexican column for "oc weekly" hysterically funny and informed by gustavo latin american studies from uclamy dad never taught me much about mexican culte just outsource that whole project. [laughter] i met him five years ago when his first book came out which which is ask a mexican and in the five yr since he has been skyrocketing forward.

he has two other books, one of personal history of orange county and his most recent book which is called "taco usa" and it uses mexican food to probe the borders and boundaries between american and mexican culture and he is also the editor of "oc weekly" in southern california. >> just a final comment, we are going to be tweeting these talks using the hashtag aspen futures. and in general just as alexis already mentioned we really want to encourage everybody to draw connections. these presentations have me boundaries between them but ideally we are breaking down the boundaries and findi the commonalities in the interdisciplinary date between them and that makes interesting things happen. without further ad our first speaker is adam lerner. [applause] >> i love it when people talk about my work as a graduate student, at least until i pay off my student loans. i like to make sure that it gets

some aplay. actually, i was a graduate student for very long time, about 12 years, and sometimes i felt embarrassed to admit to my peers that i was writing my dissertation on the sculptor of mount rushmore because of its lowbrow associations. but now what amazes me is something very different. what amazes me is that i actually fail to learn what is probably the one single great lesson of studying an artist, especially an artist like him so in the six years of research and writing about is artist, who found his voice by attempting to do something that nobody else had done before, it never occurred to me that there is a lesson in that. there is a esson in that actually mightapply to me, tht i might actually think about

doing something that no one else had done before. and it's actually the nature of academic pursuits to remain an observer of other people who break the rules. now, as the director of our museum of contemporary arts actually i realize it's actually the nature of all cultural institutions to remain detached as an observer of those people who break the rules. that actually it is the nature of our cultural decisions to cultivate a sense of maybe appreciative or respectful detachment from the risktakers. it is the nature of art as we have inherited to actually be about breaking rules and going against conventions. there is something about the

formal presentation of museums that actually is very similar to an academic thesis and their own creative impulse. so the great implicit message of all of our cultul decisions is that the artist has made the sacrifice so that you don't have to. and that is basically the christian model. which i think is something that i have sort of always as a museum or sort have tried to work against. so museums, and traditional cultural institutions, they point to the arts and they say isn't thaan original voice, but the audience what they see is, they see the institution

which has no original voice of its own generally. so it's like when you point in front of a dog, if you have dogs. what does it do? he snis your finger, right? the dog sees you, not what you're pointing at and the same thing as the audience for cultural ititutions they tend to see you, the cultural institution as the framer of all that creative energy that the artist has sort of mustard. which means that the institution has to be a sort of model. if they have to model themselves, how we can learn from these creative artists to express an original voice, to break out of existing nventions and so if you want to foster the idea of the artist sacrifice, the artist sacrifice should be an inspiration for us to take chances, for us to break

the rules, for us to clear away those conventions and start to see the worldfresh. we want to sort of foster that attitude, then we as an institution have to do that ourselves and that is actually what i'm going to talk to you about from here on, sort of how i have tried to serve as an institution to have an original, creative voice. it is the attempt to model what it is we learn from our. i began in 2004 when a real real estate developer invited me as alexis mentioned, to create a cultural institution in the suburbs of denver where i was freed from any strictures of one cultural institution ought to be. and i bgan with a lecture program as mentioned. i called it the lab, the lab and it was a labrador retriever.

i don't have a labrador retriever. at the docks and that it was sort of funny. i found it funny. maybe you don't come i don't know. we started with a lecture program and that lecture program we called unrelated topics and this was sandy -- andy warhol and artificial lighting. one speaker spoke on one subject for half an hour and then an unrelated subjects for half an hour and then both of at the me time. now, there we have it. we are in an unleased storefront space in the shopping district and there are 20 people in the dience and that is about two weeks into it. there a few weeks later we have maybe 75 people now showing up. on the left a of prossor at the university of colorado talking about ts elliott and then you have a grocer talking

about fresh meat sausage. [laughter] this is a sample season for you. carnivorous plants and colorful painting. earth art and cheese. l. and -- chinese opera and alfred hitchcock, walt whitman and whole hog cooking. what we do is sleep here ings according to how they sound good next to each other and that sounded great. tequila and da energy in the universe. [laughter] so you start to get what happens, your mind immediately makes the connection doesn't it? soul food and existentialism. prairie dogs and gertrude stein. and then the one which of course is bvious, marxism and kittens, kittens, kittens. now the point of all of this is that the mind naturally follows existing patterns when thinking about any subject.

think about where you want to go to dinner on an average day and your mind will always go to the same places that it always goes to. you have got to check the mind to get to something new. by forcing the mind to make a connection with indifferent rounds it fosters new tterns of ranking bringing us out of the old patterns. which is why salman rushdie says a bit of this and a bit of that is how the newness enters the world. so we start to get the developers to build a separate building for us where we did have these programs as well as contemporary artists position. our motto was because culture is big, like canada. we also thought that was funny. obviously a very different sense of humor here. [laughter] so we did exhibitions on international art that there is a sense of play in everything we did. we were across this place from

this -- across the street from this plce called sporting goods. welcome to the lab, we ar not. [laughter] and then we had to actually apologize for that. we had to publish something, apologize to our neighbors saying we are not. apparently we are. [laughter] so what happens is through play we not only deflated for tensions that are normally associated with high art of the created a sense of the unexpected so we are not sort of saying that this is our budgets a playl spirit of art so joke making for us became a model for creativity for breaking out of what you usually expect from any kind of art institution. then in 2009 with the popularity of the labs programming's as alexis mentioned i was offered the position of the director of

the museum. now the class clown becomes the class president. at mca denver we are a contemporary art museum but we added the g to our logo because we believe we both are a museum preserving the tradition of art but also we are a lab, laboratory for experiments and wi the future of art is and what the future of the museum might be. and in that we try to develop a new language for contemporary art that would be outside of a traditional museums tend to do. this is our program, art fitness traing. waiver program feminism and company were for example this is let by julian silverman and hea a sample program would be were repaired a woman who is the leading salesperson of toys at passion parties and paired her with a leading tupperware sales person and followed by a

sociologist who studies women's -- and there was a kind of ringing together of the cultural right -- richness and understanding the various ways. there is a kind of understanding of our culture that is very fabric, the very fabric of our lives and that is both commercial culture and not really looked out on a normal basis. we did a progra called art meets these were we had an artisan butcher who fabricated a carcass in front of an audience. meanwhile we had a guy named roger green playing guitar who is a vegetarian so we called the vegetarian option. and we had sarah rich and nicola doing talks going everywhere from the animal itself all the way to the restaurant in the city. the point is to connect art to those creative forces that actually make up our civilization. through these live programs life

programs we become as an institution, coproducers with these other creative people out there who produces with the artist as well so his co-authors in a sense we developed our own unique voice as an institution. but i thinmore than anything else though we had to relying upon the creativity of our staff, the people who want to work at an art museum people who are attracted to creative endeavors. these are incredibly creative people and we have a young geration of folks who work there, who you have to actually work to keep down their creative spirits, which actually most cultural institutions do. we tried to do the opposite. here is sarah and brett. but, so for example we did an exhibition called energy effects, which feature your thermonuclear weapons paired algside a video work by

gonzalez and when our exhibition manager went to return those weapons to th air and museum he decided he would wear a bunny suit. there you see him with his assistant, and he drove around in a flatbed truck wearing a bunny suit and the rest of the staff wanted to play a prank on him and wanted to have him arrested and called the cops on him which was funny. nothing happened. he is an artist, but this is something, this is kind of like the creative spirit that takes place within the organization that i think is not about our. it's about energy. energy has this natural gravitational pull to it. it's not even something that is marketed. is something that becomes an attractive force. there you have my assistant at the timearon, who for our event dressed as a taco and played the trumpet and the

donkey is also carrying a tropics during the fund-raiser. we have our graphic designer alec stevens who cannot do anything without being fabulous. this is our sitor services director who organizes -- andy lyons who organizes a friday night event called black sheep friday and one night he organized an event for example called museum professional wrestling where he invited museum professionals to engage in thumb wrestling competitions. and we still do mix to taste at the program, mixed taste. sarah and by the way these crowds now are like 300 plus people at these events. we have to use in industrial space across the street becerra who produces these programs, she likes to -- so we giveaway a raffle and in this case what we did once, we gave away free tickets to the

king tut exhibition at the denver art museum and the winner had to redeem these two used tires at the art museum to collect their winning tickets but we didn't tell the art museum that. [laughter] so we never did that again. so anyway the point of all of this is that why do we have art? why do we have art if we cannot ourselves learn from the artists who break the rules? to find new patterns of thinking and doing things through play, and to connect to each other as human beings through laughter, through sort of somehow shaking things up and sort of not being as professionals to each other as an institution to a visitor but actually as being human to each other. we do exhibitions of art, but as a museum will do, but the

important thing is by modeling creativity for our visitors we hope that they will be able to see our exhibitions in a different light. we want them to be actually inspired by our artist so themselves be creative. we wanted them to believe that they too can re-create the world so we believe in masterworks. this is not to say oh yeah to wear a bunny suit is the same as to make a masterwork of our. the core of every art is the authentic creative act which is common to everyone and to do that you need to do it yourself. you can't just say it. you need to do i as an institution. that is what inspires other people to do a too. then there are a couple of institutions i will end with which are crucial to our attitude about art and culture. one is an exhibition that i co-authoredfocused on the american counterculture of the 1960's and seventies.

this is a crucial one called west of center and it's a large-scale exhibition. what it does is it looks at certn creative individuals in the 60's and seventies and why it is interesting is these people i believe have to find an alternative legacy for a culture that actually continues to exist today. these are people and here's a picture of trinidad colorado a geo-descent commune and these are people who didn't necessarily define themselves as artists but set out to live artistically and do o in sort of set out to make the world that they wanted to live in and so they inspired other people to do the same. d that was an attitude you also found in the punkra which followed and this was an exit vision we did centered around the work of bruce conner who you see here where we explored in this exhibition this idea which

is again the opposite of what is that the mainstream of cultural institutions today. the attitude is when i see somebody on stage doing something creative and expressive, the feeling that is cultivated in punk rock is i can do that too and those early days formed bands themselves. bad along with the counterculture is the origins effectively the origins of the diy culture that is everywhere today, especially amongst youth culture. that is the origins of the spirit you see amongst my staff, the people who sort of belief that they are not trying cessarily to find what they're doing as art but to do things more interestingly in the world. they t to live in the world that they feel is more interesting place to live in. and the question is to let that happen so the diy attitude i believe now dominates youth culture. more partly i think it's everywhere and our culture and

society and those people who are the leaders of i think actually the future of our culture and society are those people who actually are identifying those creative forces within themselves in any field, in any profession. and at some level what they are doing is modeling themselves after artists and using art as the archetype for innovation, for risk-taking, for creative thinking so it's up to the cultural institutions now to begin to understand that too. thanks. [applause] >> i have to wear the rare opportunity of getting to query a man do about her insights in the future and we are going to interview each other little bit. before we start talking about the future, think we want to put it into context a little bit.

in 2008, you were at "the huffington post." you are now at the guardian and in between you are the public eye, three very different places. when you think about what the campaign environment was like in 2008 what has changed since? >> there has been a radil shift. it largely is because more of us have our lives on line. i was hired to by "the huffington post." it's kind of like calling hardball show, not softball but the basic premise was to get her readers engaged in a campaign coverage and as much as possible to make sure that the camign coverage wasn't so focused on the actual race, so the barbs that were tossed back and forth to train the candidates and to really try and understand what was happening on the ground in communities around the country. now what was so interesting to

me, what is very interesting to me looking back is how formalized. we recruited people at "the huffington post" to be what they called citizen journalist. it's a very professional in his effort. the idea was to sign up you have your full-time job. you you are in some ways to embody the life of a journalist. now it turns out we had a project that went on for a year and a half and they wrote some very big stories. we piloted lots of different features on the site that we found out something most people and maybe recognize today and at the 20,000 people or participate are participate in the part checked i know 14% were interested in writing full-length pieces and doing reporting on their own but for many of the people ey wanted to dip in and out of the process. now when you look on line or you look at different news sites, i'm sure you have had this experience, most all of them are asking readers, take a look at this, what do you see? here is how to contribute your photos and a formalized approach we took in 2000 is largely been

accepted as sort of an everyday practice for most media institution so at the time i think we were very romantic about the proach and now it it is very commonplace. the big shift in campaign coverage that we are experiencing now and it is really a big challenge for reporters, is, to the campaigns now rely on data to do the campaigning. i am going to tell you a little sort of story. earlier this year a lot of reporters and political analysts were pointing their fingers at that romney and how is he really going to -- if he has these few offices people can walk into? what a lot of us hadn't buzz hadn't realized was several years before the people who worked with romney had helped identified using data and using records that his campaign had, a small percentage of people who are die-hard romney supporters and they asked him to call it of the supporters who then i.d. that there potentially die-hard

romney supporters to then call others and affect a lot of their campaign work in iowa was done largely through the internet, through on line call centers. if you flash back to 2000 think about the millions of people on line who were making t-shirts, putting up their own posters and making media constantly now in effect what you have especially in the campaign in whicfrankly can say there is there's a bit of lackluster ierest on both sides, a lot of the activity the engine driving the campaigns is largely and of the. if your reporter and you're trying to make sense of this you don't actually have the benefit that you had in 2008, which is the sort of outpouring of local support on line. you are really trying to find out the imaginations of campaigns by watching to see for example what e-mails they may send where and what subject lines because you are using that kind of information to understand their strategy. as a profound difference and a profound challenge.

>> i think when i look at user behavior and i lk at how the folks that we are reporting for and telling stories to, how they have changed their behavior has changed, the thing that sticks out to me is the new ubiquity of media. but i mean we have had cell phones, mobile phones and mobile devices for a long time now, the better part of the last decade. the iphone was introduced in 2007. in the time since, in those five years, smartphones, 50% of the u.s. population has a smartphone. 's insane how much people have now worked the media into the fabric of everyday life. caeser did a study called generation it m2 just last year in which they went out to 18-year-olds and surveyed how much time they were spending with the media on a given day and their dramatic uptick.

it actually doubled if you go back to 2004. it's about 350 minutes a day. now it is approaching 700 minutes a day that folks are spending with media. that is not they are just watching tv for 700 minutes in a day. it is now the media is a layer onop of everyone's daily experience. so, i have a good friend that i believ alexis had mentioned name robin sloan. he is a media inventor and writer. a few years ago we created a video looking out at the future of the media and what will happen over the next 10 years back in 2004. we reconvened la year for the society for news design to take a whack at this question of oka in theears since what has changed and what is changing? the way we chose to tackle that question was we wanted to take a common story that would be told

across the media, across as long as humankind has been telling itself stories so we told the story of the storm which is a new story of a storm destroying a town or severely damaging a town which is a news story not only which has been told since time eternal since the flood of course that is one that we tell with increasing frequency today. and so, when you look at that, as many examples as we can find from across time going back to ancient greek emperor that depicted this tale of a storm, a giant storm wiping away of town and we fast-forwarded through town through telegraphs in newspapers and ultimately today to social media and th beyond. and this week, when you collect all of that, all of those forms of telling the story altogether the single thing that stood out was, we have gone from having

media, these appointment moments, media as something you go to at 6:30 after you are finished with your work day and watching the evening news with your family around the television to media as this texture, this thing that you are constantly both suckered by and also buffeted by a near daily life. that ubiquity i think is one of the biggest changes, and we still are struggling i think to grapple with how that changes what we should be saying and ho we should be telling stories. >> completely and i think that is fined 2000 we were using these formalized approach is asking people to sign up and giving writers assignments and now i think a lot of people know if they go to a campaign event they expect themselves to take pitchers or to post something on facebook. before we will asking people to to do that in a much more sort of formal approach. but i think you know the last few years we have also seen other big shifts. we have seen i think in many

instances grassroots communities organizing themselves for the purposes of clinical power. you can look at sopa and you can look at pipa and i'm really curious to hear from you and your vantage point at national public media how is the dynamic between media and citizens changed, in what ways? >> i think that one of the fundamental shifts has been we used to be a broadcasting organization. we used to send out messages to people and this is no longer a relation that we sit alongside people talking to one another. what they use these mobile devices to do is not actually to listen to us but to talk with each other and now we sit in that space. we are there right alongside them as they are on twitter, talking with their friends about what they are going to do tonight. then there is the morning edition sending out a tweet about what is happening in serious. that space and that

juxtaposition is actually for us i think atpr quite sweet. we consider ourselves to have this uniquely intimate medium of the radio. we are whispering in your ear and now coupled with that notion of ubiquity before the fact that an increasing part of our audience or listenership for npr has been growing over the past several years in contrast t what's happening with a lot of the media and part of that is because people can now carry us with them places. they can carry us with them on their run or at the gym. while they are cooking in a way that was more difficult to do before. so that intimacy of being in a communication medium and the slippage between people talking to one anothernd people being spoken to by the media has a thing created a drastically new dynamic for us. i am curious -- do you have done a lot of efforts working ith citizens in all contexts of

producing journalism. how has that changed for you? >> so when i was at propublica we spent t year focusing on what we called explainers and the idea was you know we can cover the story. we can take up the details and do a six-month, 12 month monthlong investigation but sometimes people have questions that are pressing, much like the questions, we know that because we asked them of ourselves in at some of our friends. what does this really mean? what is the significance of this bill? we found actually working on very simple pieces that we are aiming to answer the questions we might see people asking asking in their facebook feed, asking on twitter, were actually the kind supposed to get a tremendous resonance among people in the feedback we got from our readers is that thy were tremendously useful. for myself i'm particularly interested in ways in which readers and which citizens can help frankly hold those empowered accountable. i spend my time thinking about

where are their collective action problems that exist out there in the world? in a project that i did at propubli which we called the stimulus check, shortly after the recovery act had come through. there were lots of big promises about what sort of jobs we could expect and what sort of transformation we would see economically in our communities. the question that we pose tour readers was, well can we really tell what's going on? one of the leading indicators that biden pointed everyone to work construction site they were going to be hiring people to work on sites around the country and that is one of the ways in which we can sort of get back on our feet. less actually find out if that is happening so i put up a post on propublica thing we can either wait for the administration to release figures -- this was in the early summer, and early fall and trust they got the measurements right or we can take matters in ou own hands. i askereaders to help us identify the progress that was

made and about 550 sites around the country which propublica's statistician told me was 4.5of the construction sites around the country which gave us the statistical soundness that we would need. and what did people do? they called their local d.o.t. offices, department of transportation offices and they would stop at different sites. what we found actually that gusher of work was further down the pipeline than we expected. for me though what was most valuable about this were the kinds of conversations i had withy readers like oh, it was actually you know sometimes a hassle to get this information. i made five, six, seven phonecalls but i got the information that i wanted. two, people would actually say oh, journalism is hard and annoying. and i think especially in these days a lot of times we are trying to make the case for the work that we do. a lot of the cost of journalism and especially the place like propublica in which reporters,

they go down the rabbit hole but that is after they have found the rabbit hole. if you're an investigative reporter you have to find that story and can it can take you months. ringing read -- readers into the process was one of the transformative ways of making the case for journalism. how artists who actually make sense of what is happening out there in the world. now the real challenge in doing these sorts of projects is you need certain kinds of skills like you have to know how to organize information in people and i think actually some of the more dramatic instances we have seen in which people have held power and count whether it's for journalistic purposes or not have actually been largely spontaneous. there is a fantastic example actually in germany in which a major politician was found to have plagiarized a lot in his thesis and people discovered this because someone put up a wiki and essentially active researchers and academics began copying and pasting part of his thesis on line and finding out where he had pulledhe copy

from. so, i think the big challenge for media institutions frankly is to really keep their eye on the ball because like you are saying matt the ubiquity of media because sometimes you have the false impression that you know what's happening in the world because it's very easy to point to a tweet here and they treat therand pull up facebook post, what is coming up that i can easily see i have an answer but the truth is a lot of stories of our much more difficult to find and there are plenty of people too who don't have a voice. so, i think the futurist -- >> i reject to that title. >> in your position at npr in which you are working side-by-side with reporters and editors and largely helping people see the skills that they need to learn and the ways in which they neeto look at things differently, what do you see coming down the pipeline?

>> when we think about storytelling particularly and when i'm working with the reporters that i work with, one of the essential and central concepts that i have tried to wrap my head around and hat i try to work through with the journalist that i collaborate with is this notion that we are moving from stories towards streams, that this notion, we will always -- we have told each other stories as humans. we have told each other stories forever and we will tell each other stories forever. ories are powerful concepts but this notion of the classic story, the big inning, the middle, the end with a little spike of catharsis before you reach that finish, that is being augmented by this constant stream, this flow of information. weave a reporter, our senior editor for social media, andy

carvin, who is tracking constantly the events that are happening right now in the middle east over twitter and he has created quite a profile and quite a crowd for himself, people who follow this constant stream, this flow of tweets from all over the middle st from libya, tunisia and syria and egypt. is a very different experience, experienng a story in that fashion that is not really with a beginning point or an ending point. clive thompson who is a technology writer who i really like once likened this dreamlike experience to proprioception come this ambient awareness, the fact that proprioception that we know where our arms are and our limbs and appendages are in space a any given time, that notion that something like twitter gives you the sse of the texture of the lives of the people that you follow and another different way than ever before that you actually kind of to dip into these lives over 24

hours. that idea of how we tell stories or the question of how we tell stories gwen as the writer paul ford put it, we are encountering and in two innings, the epiphany that we seek in every media story that we come across. it says this is what this is about. we no longer have that moring. how we tell stories in that age, in my universe part of what we are doing is trying -- trying to pull back the lens a little bit and zoom out and actually tell a larger story over time, to hook people into an ongoing narrative, to if you will, ring them along with us on a quest. a lot of the reporters i work with one of the ings that has long been true of good journalism is great journalism often does not stt with an answer. it starts with a great question. it's something that you don't know, that process of discovery,

that quest of trying to figure something out is a key part of doing fantastic journalism and i encourage our journalist to share that question, to start and hook their audience into that overarching question of for example how will the pacific northwest meet the renewable energy targets by 2020? it's a question we don't know the answer to. it has a lot of complex parts but every day over the course of a year, we can start attacking different parts of that question, which produces great stories that are part of this unending stream, this ow that i think actually can make people both more engaged in these types of questions and more informed. how do you approach this question of how storytelling will change? >> i think what we pointed to is the is this real need to as you put it, to get context because we all see the sort of abbreviated lips and bytes that are just sort of running by my

question is how do we really make sense o something that is greater? i think some of the other trends we have talked about are things like the visual, that more and more we are going to be making sense of the world through video and images and they think you can look at a place like facebook and no it's a massive photo album but far more often telling stories by taking pictures. a photo has a masterful way of setting a scene as a short video clip. a lot of people talk about whether or not we have actually been come existing in a time which morality, the written word is that we are going to move much -- much more towards the spoken word but also this image. i think, certainly for the journalists that the guardian one of the real challenges in one of the thing we focused on thlot is frankly not saying how to actually bring people along an ongoing story because

some of them make a lot of sense like the article. every texan over production process in which we sat down, had your morning paper and then moved on but the question is how to tether things together. if you are dipping in -- in a old way. i see alexis flashing at us so i we have to. >> show we go to q&a? thank you. [applause] >> be will start to q&a after -- [inaudible] >> awesome. since i am the chief tequa to all this fine morning i'm going to be short, sweet into the point but no lime wedge, sorry. my name is gustavo arellano nine the editor of the "oc weekly." in alternative newspaper, the

sister paper of the village voice, seattle weekly and we specialize in yellow journalism. we specialize i inconvenient truth. we get politicians injail an get innocent people out of jail. we have an obsession with neo-nazis and genocide deniers and all these horrible people and do my job specific he i tell the inconvenient truth of perhaps the most vexing problems, the most vexing suppose of problem affecting the united states today. what are we going to do with all these dam mexicans? there are so many mexicans here. that is all we care about in the media. so far this year would have we had? we have one story that minority births, minority births are now the majority. in other words wide earth are you climbing while minority births of going off of course because of that latin for blood and enough fecundity that never stops. we also have, what was that other big thing? the 2012 election, oh the latino

vote, the swing state barac obama needs to appeal to them. is made romney going to get marco rubio to get that swing vote because it's all about the latino. recently at the supreme court decision talking about arizona s.b. 70 surprising a lot of people really come a knocking down three of the four things that s.b. 1070 proposed and all along though you have this, this is something i've been dealing with my entire life not just as a child of nixon immigrants when he came to this country in the trunk of a chevy in 1968 but also as a reporter again and again what are latinos and when we are talking about latinos than one worries about puerto ricans anymore or cubans or dominicans. we are wearing about mexicans. what on earth are mexicans oing to do to this country? in a way i speak to you from the present that in a way speak to you from the future because with the birthrates, with demographic changes on in the future and i'm

speaking from the future to the present. multilingual, multicultural, mexican. and so i am one one of those invading hoards. i'm here to tell you everything is going to be okay. [laughter] now, thank you. alright. [applause] everything is going to be alright and i have proof. tacos. you know when i was talking to alexis what am i going to talk about, i gave him some titles and one of them i said, should i talk about the taco as oracle so he insisted i do that so i'm going to talk about tacos but before talk about above me talk about what gets me the most notoriety given back to the inconvenient truth. i write a column called asking mexican. people asking questions about mexicans and i answer the and does not matter what the questions may be. i have answer questions on everything from why do mexicans have so many babi to what part

of illegal don't we understand, to why don't mexicans pay any taxes and we do actually ended and in fact some studies show we are supporting social security as we know it because of all the undocumented folks paying into the social security system with fake social security numbers that they they're never going to get back to why are mexicans always so dam happy? i have answered all of that and more so. the column is now around 39 newspapers across the country and a best-sling book in 2007. you could find it on line ask a mexicane the reason i do the column is to debunk and deconstruct and destroy stereotypes and misconceptions that people have about mexicans. using the prism of satire but really using the effects. mybackground as i said earlier is an investigative reporters when people ask me question for instance my favorite question anybody asks me, somebody asked me why don't you mexicans ever learn to speak english? are you oo stupid, you cannot

learn two or three words a y? what is going on with you guys? it was a nice question. all it had to do to answer that question with the facts. i went to them and i said the american government shares your concerns. they shoot a study saying that this new wave of immigrants are idiots. they are not like the previous wave of immigrants who came to this country to learn and become americans, you know that rhetoric you hear so much including from the right but also fm the left sometimes and that we should have the policy of stopping immigration deporting those immigrants beuse all they want to do is take our money, take our jobs and send them back. that report wasn't for in the modern day. it was in 1911 dillingham. at the time they were some of your ancestors in this rom. italians, greeks, polls, not spaniards to a lesser extent, bulgarians etc. and immigrants we lionized the past you are

the swedes, the french and english. all i had to do is insert the fact and of course at the end i put a whole bunch of -- and that is your answer. the column of course is not without its critics. may be at another time i can tell you about how my column got a man suspended from work for five days for reading it at work. you can find it on line. in my job is trying to let people know it's okay, mexicans are perfectly fine in this country is going to be as great as it has been with us being the majority in some places, i decided to go with my most recent book on something that everyone could understand, mexican food. my new book, "taco usa" how mexican food conquered america, i love titles. i tell you everything you need to know from the subtitle and that is exactly what it is. how mexican food conquered america. of course the relationship between the united states in mexico as we all know, it's like the ultimate bad romance really. you know we share a border yet

we have got into three official wars, god knows how many on facial wars. america is depende on mexican cheap labor. mexico is dependent upon all those remittances going back into mexico. we have the drug war and we have all sorts of nasty battles that we always fight that we have made our peace on one thing and that is fod. in fact more than made our peace. i would argue we are showing you the future. mexicans will be on top because we have already conquered your stomach's. [laughter] so the book really briefly i will talk about the book an that i'm going to talk specifically about tacos. it goes to the 125 year history of mexican food in this country. there's a misconception that mexican food really didn't become popar until the 1950's in the 1960's with the spread of fast food mexican joints like taco bell, taco john's around these areas and other taco

empires going up on the east coast but from the moment americans have even heard about mexican food, we have been obsessed. so what has happened ever since the 1880s there has been the cycle that continues torepeat itself every single decade. and americans hear about mexican food, whether reading it, rather hearing about it from people that tried it. they seek it when they are going on vacation, cooking it from cookbooks, waiting for someone to make it in front of them at a restaurant or at home. they be it, they assimilated and then they say what's next? give us the next great dish so from the 1880s and 1890s the two great mexican foods america fell in love with were not tacos, but what it used to be called chile con carne which we now know as chile. and tamales. tamales, the great nexus point was the 1893 chicago wold's fair for you had tamales and from san francisco go to the

chicago world fair and selling their tamales from the steam buckets. yet the texas delegation to the chicago world's fair go and start selling their chile con carnet. of course at the time chicago was the centerpoint of the book, the canning industry and the meatpacking industry and they decided to put this mexican food in a can. they saw it as being from a can, cheap with a long shelf life. after that you had chile. tamales you n still find the but at this point in time i would not be tamales in a can. from their on, mexican food has conquered the united states again and again. the 1900 cc this bread of chile powder right outside of san antonio. in the 1920 cc gebhardt's printing of a quarter million

cookbooks a year goinacross the united states and teaching people how to make mexican food. the 1930s to start seeing the spread of talk is the 1940s and fifties for furthermore the actual mexican restaurants. the 60's and 70's you start seeing the spread of what is known as sitdown mexican restaurants and some of you may remember a restaurant chain called chi-chi's, which would never work in southe california because that is slang for female. and onward and onward we see the spread or the creation of a multibillion-dollar mexican food industry. not just i its totality but individual segments. alcohol, hot sauce. may be of her the fact, i think it's this year the 20th annirsary of salsa outselling ketchup, which is true. taco bell, multibillion-dollar empire, mexican candy and so on and so forth. with the shows to me and it's been a americans by e way. it's been americans who have

been pushing and making all these foods popular. mexicans have always been being them of course but if it wasn't for the widescale embrace of americans of mexican food and that this would have happened. so for me that shows the future is bght. the future is positive because we all know especially when it comes to humanizing other cultures the first thing we demonize besides the way maybe that we look is there for. you still see some remnants of that when it comes to mexican food. you might've heard's although that is the 1950's and i don't know why people still use that. in fact the first dispatches, the first writings of mexican food goes back to the 1830s and there we scouts for the american army going through texas and exico to conquer the area for the united states and they were saying how all that mexican food was horrible. ..

a decade later, cows went to the pasture where there were dead mexicans and they died and all the chili was there when decade later. that is all in the past. instead we have mexican food conquering us all. you have mexican food on all continents. the intro to my book starts with breakfast burritos and space. did you know astronauts love tortillas? if you eat bread of the crumbs go into their fancy equipment. the tortilla is got a's vessel. why else would diseases appear

in a tortilla? -- why else would jesus appear in a tortilla? the great thing about mexican food is that none of it is authentic. you have seen mexican food chains in so many different ways over the years. the best evolution you can see as -- the most widespread has been in the talk-show. tacos are a late migrant to the united states. before that was passed as mexican food was chile, enchiladas, pinto beans and so forth. the first mexican tacos or hard shell tacos. you might have heard along the line that mexicans do not be part tacos. yeah out right.

the first to come in our something called taquitos. those were the first tacos that spread across the united states. the mass mexican migration to the united states did not happen in earnest until after 1965. even before then there was a demand for tacos. you see a gentleman named george ashley from el paso who is famous for inventing tortillas in a can. they are now extinct because nobody should ever eat tortillas and a can again. he would sell them across the country and say, if you send me for proofs of receipt, i will send you a shell so you can make your own tacos. he for them and you make tacos. -- you for write them and you make tacos.

i have a small restaurant in san borodino which he turned into a empire. you have this taco -- this started changing. in the 1980's users seeing what is now the soft taco. right now in southern california you see the spread of career and that tacos. -- korean tacos. and now you are seeing better talkers, up from mexico. -- tacos coming up from mexico. you are seeing all sorts of tacos. the most glorious creation this country has ever made -- tater tots tacos. i have to say as a mexican coming from southern california

going to wyoming -- south dakota and seeing these tacos, i shook my head and said why are americans so afraid of us? they have tater tots in tacos now. tea was so much. -- thank you so much. [applause] >> we have run over. it is pouring rain outside. if you want to stay dry for a little while you can ask some questions. there is somebody out there with microphones. like we said, this is a mixed q &a. any questions out there? >> right there.

>> this is for matt. anybody can chime in. you talk about people becoming more participant journalists themselves. you mentioned a coating and technology. that is part of your background and passion as well? >> i think it is hard to be involved in digital journalism and not get into the code. since i started in newspapers, i have been making things with code. that is the pattern for a lot of digital journalists. >> d.c. that with people contributing content? and in new york we have a group that define themselves as both technologists and content creators. do you see these people and powering these journalists also

hacking and people hacking not necessarily because they are passionate about right thing, reporting, creating video, but because they want to build applications. >> aspiring young journalist and a college, i the people who are making decisions that ultimately shape of the story that we tell our increasingly not editorial people, but people making code and technology. people who can understand the data possibilities in a particular story and can actually do fancy things with a database. have a huge sway over the types of story we can tell. what we thought of as tech companies are becoming media

companies. the other day i was supposed to give a talk with somebody who is a reporter for "the washington post." days before the talks began it was announced he was going to work at twitter. we have journalists working at google and facebook. conversely, we have technologist's working in the media organizations. >> do you see emerging artists seeing that coding in the contemporary art scene? >> i think there are a lot of artists who work with media and technology and coding. data visualization is this weird world of that combines art and data. 10 years ago, i would give the example of what is the opposite

of art -- i would have said data. now what is amazing is how we understand the data is safe visit will phenomenon. -- a visual phenomenon. there are great artists who work in that area based in l.a. and wrote a book on the subject. what is amazing to me is most an academic environment right now, there are people who see -- almost their job as artists as experimenters, working in the laboratory and away with the data and different kinds of technology. they may not ever even think about exhibits in a museum context. they publish what they are doing. like an artist in montreal who created an interactive plans say you can touch the plant and the

light would turn on. these kinds of things are the experimentation with in their world. >> to give a sense of numbers, the guardian office in new york has about 30 people. four or five of them are programmers. is a very high percentage. it is growing. there are for programmers on staff in charge of finding ways to scrape data and turn into individual forms for readers. >> i started working as an artist with digital technology in the 1970's. it is amazing to me that may be in the last two years it is

starting to be accepted. i have been shocked that the art world has been basically afraid to embrace digital art or understand it or figure out how to critique it. videos seem to sneak into the art world. do you have any sense on why it has been so long and coming? >> i think you probably know the answer to that yourself. do you not think -- what would you suggest? >> i am not sure because -- >> it seems to me the obvious thing is it would be related to market place. it actually is so hard to -- >> you do not have the original necessarily. >> that is what i think it is. >> video has the same kind of situation has been accepted whaleback in the 1960's.

>> a think one thing was a lot of a video artists have done is they have tried to make it their video arts as much like a painting as possible. to make it rare. the is a beautiful gem of like packages. you are getting an object and not just a video. a lot of people working in technology are on the borderline between the data visualization that amanda was talking about and the world of fine arts. they like that boundary. the art world of does not like -- it lacks some boundaries. the one of boundary it does not like is art and life. that is a boundary pretty scary. >> the art world has kept itself

fixed in the past. that is disappointing when you expect art to lead us into the future. >> maybe one more question. >> listening to all of you as innovators in year fields, also very aware of the interdisciplinary nature of your disciplines, as somebody having a 15-year-old son in the digital world of time, i worry not only for myself -- there is a lot of noise. as people, we need to figure out what is the most important part

to listen to. the streaming was talked about. changing the venue of museums and making them participatory -- unveiling the snobbery and making it a conversation and politics and journalism, using the people -- your listeners as messengers really. how do you view the creation of classic journalism? what is going to live on in your lifetime? which pieces? >> the story. especially be in part to of this world, we have always focused on story.

if you write a book or your right to a tweet, if not something that will grab people one way or the other, it will not stick around anywhere. i always tell my writer's whatever you do make sure you stand by and say this was the best thing i was able to do. going in the twitter and facebook, i do not fire things off randomly. i make sure everything i do is precise. a field like twitter where you have these characters, something like facebook where you can make your own video, as a reporter you just have to make sure -- you have to trust in what you are going to do is going to grab people. andd jump into the abyss hope for the best. >> i was going to invoke our mutual friend who wrote this great post in part of a

response. the master media metaphors of our time is stock and flow. he said in a new media environment we find ourselves constantly and flow. the real challenges to how to figure out durable-goods and stories. i think the real challenge is, frankly, it is not easy. it is a real responsibility. there are different ways of going about it. the short cuts might be finding people who cover issues you carry about and think are important antitrust the analysis and they become your filter of the world. there is no easy solution. >> i just wanted to say thank you for invoking the -- we are going to talk about that. it answers are six-year question. part of the point of the story is he is saying, you cannot

always be inside the flow of the digital overload. you have to step out. you cannot only be a consumer of the stuff and you have to find a balance. i think that might be a nice way to finish off. thank you. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> and three days, gavel-to- gavel coverage from tampa. your front-row seat to the convention. a look at paul ryan in his own words. that is followed by a rally with mitt romney in hobbs, new mexico. on washington journal a look at mitt romney's faith. a behind the scenes look at the online media company "talking

points memo. the republican national convention starts on monday. tampa mayor on the importance of hosting the convention. >> this is the biggest thing the city has ever overtaken -- undertaken by a longshot. we hosted four super bowls. we host and unusual invasion every winter. we are as well prepared as any city in the country to host an event of this magnitude. this is a big deal. bigger than anything we have done by a long stretch. if you multiplier all the super bowls together, the magnitude of this and the number of parts involved would far surpass that by probably tenfold. the security issues are unique to these events. it is why this is determined to be a national special security

event. you will hear some things we have not been accustomed to dealing with. this team you see in front of you as well as our partners, we could not have done this without the help of david g. they have been wonderful to work with, as have all of our other partners and law enforcement. you see colonel duncan in green. in reality the uniforms are purple. they truly worked out well together. it is two interchangeable agencies. we have not had a better partners than the sheriff's office. thank you on behalf of the blue team for all the work of the green team is doing to help us. there will be challenges. we all understand that. there will be traffic issues. there will be congestion. there will be could -- security

concerns. there will be confrontations. it is the nature of these kinds of events in a post 9/11 environment. there will be significant security issues involved in this as we make sure we protect the nominee and people who want to come as delegates to the event and those who want to come to offer an alternative opinion. we are choosing between the two. we do not care what people are protesting about. that is not our job. we're not here to pass judgment or care about the politics of this. this is an economic development opportunity to the likes of which we will never see again. i tell you about the scope of this event. other than the olympics, this will be the second most viewed television yvette in the entire world. this is our opportunity to shine like we will never get a again

and we have never had before. it is our time to tell our story and to tell the world was a great place this is to grow your business, build your business, invest, move your families, travel, enjoy a the camp experience all of us know because we live here. we will never get this chance again. i think when we look back on this 10 years ago -- from now they will say this is one temple played on the international stage like never before. this will transform the city in more ways than we can ever imagine. we are not here to discuss how we got here. we are not here to discuss politics. we're not here to discuss the ordinance. we're not here to discuss mitt romney or romneyville. we want to have a healthy discussion. we want to have a respectful

discussion. i want you to know and hear from all of these people, each of whom have pieces of this. whether it is the tampa police department or solid waste. there are so many moving parts to this, i want you when you leave here to have a better understanding of what has taken place in the amount of study and preparation has gone into this and more importantly what to expect during the week of the convention and how you can plan your lives accordingly. want to minimize the impact on you. we all recognize there would be an impact on the community. the benefits will outweigh the >> the republican convention starts monday in tampa. the keynote speaker will be crisscrossed the of new jersey and center marco rubio of florida will deliver the introduction of mitt romney who speaks on thursday. we will have gavel-to-gavel

coverage on c-span. today a discussion on challenges facing transgendered service members. the annual lavender law conference in washington d.c. this week. live at starting at 9:00 eastern on the companion network c-span 2. >> what do we see when we look at the dead at antietam? they responded to this and two boys by describing the bodies in great detail and often stopping in the middle of the description and saying, it is too horrible. i cannot actually put this into words. words cannot convey this. >> this weekend, harvard

professor discusses the impact of images of antietam's dead. >> america will stand up for the ideals that we believe and when we are operating at our best and who want to see this country above all else return to the path of peace. >> more from "the contenders." this week, 1972 democratic nominee george mcgovern. sunday at 7:30. >> we are introducing our new web site. today it is being unveiled. what do you have to show us? guest: since 1984 c-span has

covered every convention and this year will be no different. on the convention hub, the risk and really engage with c-span content and with other viewers during the convention. if you go to the home page, you will find all sorts of things. first of the top of the page you will see live video and featured video. we shall live video every day and it is all archived in the library. if you scroll down you will see different things. the first thing you will see our user generated clips. every video you can clip from segments of the video. rather than sharing an entire five hour session, you can share 30 seconds or two minutes and share that on at various networks or on a blog or website. before that, you will see two

twitter streams. these come from two sources. htags -- theg has ta tweet will end up on the strain on the left. on the right we have a list of delegates who will be tweeting from each convention. you will see tweets from the convention we already targeted. next week when the democrats start, we will have their tweets as well. >> everything is available at c- span got word. -- c-span.org. they can watch speakers who have already spoken. they will see tweets from fellow viewers. what about facebook?

>> all of this will beach terrible on a facebook. these info graphics have all sorts of facts and figures. a something new for us that people are going to be able to share. those might include quotes. we will be doing that day by day at the convention. these will all be sure bowl and easy to share on facebook and other networks as well. >> people want to go to the website, where do they go? c-span.org/capaign2012. >> from the c-span video library, we take a look at paul ryan in his own words on medicare, social security, and the rise in the budget.

-- ryan budget. this is 35 minutes. >> as you know, the obligated that, i have heard 49 trillion dollars. cbo estimates by 2020 the budget will essentially be interest on the debt, social security, medicare, medicaid. the reason we have these huge debts is because no party is able to on their own address these problems. the other party would attack them for it. what mechanism is going to have to be put into play to try to address the long term a budget issues? >> i think you are right. if republicans go out and try to fix social security, democrats

demagogue them. vice versa. we should not be afraid of that. i will produce my own reforms to get the debate going. to get a dialogue going so we can figure out how to fix the problems. to answer your question, one thing we have to do is change the way the federal budget process works. you were talking about accounting. there is an area where john and i agree on a lot of things. agreed this federal budget process is broken. it does not reward from tackling the big issues. it makes it easier to hide money in the federal process. we need to make it more enforceable, and more accountable. there are accounting changes we can do to bring on the books these liabilities. there are a lot of different

numbers. those are not recognized. they're not on the books. the way we do the accounting is if you are an american corporation, you would be in jail. we do not fully recognize the liabilities we have to the taxpayers on the books. i think it would make it easier for us to tackle these goals. we have to have budget enforcement. real enforceable spending caps enforceable by law so congress exceeds those across the board cuts come in. there is a lot more in the process we can do to fix this. that is an area we can work together. he and i need to get our parties involved so we can agree on fixing this process so it better rewards the dialogue we will ultimately have to have to fix the entitlements. >> one of more than 400 events

and c-span's video library. his first appearance back in 1995. we have gone through the archives to take a look at the major issues in this campaign. medicare, social security, and the overall budget. joining me in the studio is mob crew said. has there been a consistency in his statement? >> he has been very consistent as far as reforming the budget process. he has taken criticism pour that. the only inconsistency is that he voted against president obama's stimulus plan but saw money from it. on the big picture he has been consistent. >> he has only been in congress for 12 years and yet he is a key committee chair. >> he has been in congress for seven terms. he has been a budget committee

chairman on the ways and means. he is a former staffer for a center brownback. he can talk at length. >> we will learn more about the paul ryan the budget as he announced the plan. summarize what is in the budget package and why this has become a big part of the campaign. what's the big piece of it is medicare reform. he wants to make it where private companies are competing with traditional medicare. the budget plan has caps that would increase defense budgeting. on medicare plan he took a lot of heat for the medicare reform. he went to a democrat from oregon and changed the plan so

that traditional medicare would not be taken out of the options that seniors would have. this is what i think you will hear paul bryant talked a lot about. he has worked on the line item veto and with ron wyden on the veto. he did not support the bowls -- bowles simpson. members say he was not bipartisan and those discussions. >> if you'd made a pie chart, how much is defense spending, entitlements, discretionary spending. more than half goes to these supplements. >> when you talk to budget hawks like paul ryan, they say there is no way you can fix the budget problem because the entitlements are such a large portion of it. defenses over one-quarter of the budget. there is not discretionary

spending. if you look at this, the charts that they put out, the bulk of the spending problem with the nation's debt is dealing with entitlement programs, specifically medicare. medicare was a problem and congress passed a balanced budget act that helped the situation. >> he made his very first appearance on this network on may 27, 1995 as a legislative aide to sam brownback of kansas. >> this budget debate, what is it about? this is evolving into a fundamental difference between the two parties. the republicans say, we have to balance the budget. we have to pay down the debt.

the clinton administration oppose the proposal for this year projects building more deficits -- administration's proposal projects building more deficits. we have to balance the budget as soon as possible. doing a seven-year budget plan is a credible, responsible way to balance the budget. it increases spending at a slower rate. when the republicans were in the minority over the past few years, we offer alternative budget plans which did balance the budget. >> >> it shows should that even at that young age, he knows what he is talking about, he is a budget guru. attacking the sitting president as a staffer. you do not see that very often. a lot of people know paul ryan knew he was going to send up the ranks of the gop.

>> first elected in 1998. thank you for being with us. paul ryan is a policy wonk, a smart politician and highly ideological. hussy of bald or has there been -- has see involved -- has he evolved? >> in terms of his rhetoric and in terms of the thrust of his policy positions, i do not think there has been a whole lot of movement. he has always stressed the same set of issues. he has always talked in the same rhetorical terms about party thinks the republican party should go and what he thinks of the role and size of the federal government should be.