there were a lot of republicans there from california that i know that were friends. you can disagree without being disagreeable. >> how quickly did the seating arrangements go back to the old way? >> actually, i think they have kept them. >> that is pretty remarkable. >> what they have not done is this -- i gave for the first time republicans proportionality of resources. every committee had a vice chair. the speaker appoints eight. i let the minority leader do that. the biggest challenge is to get a budget, so you guys can get on the floor and beat me up, but

your job is, like my job is, let's get a budget together. you will find me with seven people who give me a 2/3 vote, because in california you need a 2/3 vote -- you used to need it until last year -- and you need a 2/3 vote for taxes. it was the only state and in the country where you needed at both. >> what would it take to get the country in that direction? the see any signs of movement in that direction? >> i think it will take a republican defeat. >> you had a republican defeat in 2008. >> the politics of no doesn't work. i understood not on inauguration day, but a few days after, that they got together

and said to block everything the president proposes. mitch mcconnell said, "my job is to defeat president." if you listen to norman ornstein of the american enterprise institute, no flaming lib -- it is broken on both sides -- i agree -- but it is more broken on the right -- i agree as well. sequestration is an area where they have to -- >> automatic budget cuts. >> and area where they can and should do that. and the outgoing conference -- i got the conference of mayors. the difference between mayors

and beltway -- last year we took on the issue of nation building and the two wars, and we can not keep on building bridges in baghdad and kandahar and not build them in our cities -- >> is that the first time that mayors have had a foreign policy? >> this isn't a war resolution, it is and nation-building resolution. we have to start investing in our infrastructure. we took on immigration -- unanimous, republican and democrat, in support of the comprehensive immigration reform. simpson-bowles ought to be a framework, a template for how we fix this. ryan said that the president

did not adopt the recommendations of his own commission. he did not say that he was on simpson-bowles and he voted against it. the president's plan cuts of $4 trillion in spending, about the number that simpson-bowles does, and also close tax loopholes, and refuses to extend the bush tax cuts, which, by the way, people who say that we are taxing the rich -- we are taxing them to where we were under the clinton administration, where we created 23 million jobs. we took it from deficits to surpluses and no deficit. we are taking on -- we have got to deal with the real world.

by the way, please come and visit l.a. [laughter] i tell my people that if anything happens, and i have to get back and watch, i will. this is the honor of a lifetime, but understand this, i am chair because i am mayor. l.a. is safer than any time since 1952. per-capita -- we are safer in absolute numbers since 1957. drop i've been there, 41% in homicides, 40% drop in violent crime. i say that to say this -- there is not a republican or democratic way to keep people safe, to pick up the trash. many of the problems in this

country have to be dealt with on a bipartisan basis. i am chair of the convention, but a democrat with a small d. i believe very strongly in what i call the radical center. this is the path forward. i believe the presiden is moving down that path, because like a simpson-bowles, he is doing both. it is balanced. >> that is a change for you. your roots are more clearly liberal. >> this year -- i've been against the death penalty, and i signed an anti-death penalty initiative. i have been taking on prop 13, challenging republicans and democrats, because neither one

of them want to challenge the holy grail. it is part of how we got into this mess. i am taking on pension reform, seniority, quadrupling the number of bike lanes in l.a. -- don't know if you knew that. car capital of the nation. and an impact report to create a bike lane -- i said, come on, we can do this together. luckily, it got through the legislature, and we have got to do more of that. there are smart ways for us to move forward on a bipartisan basis. when they lose the election, and i think they will, they have got to figure out how to be the party of yes. there will always be partisanship, but this the most partisan time since the civil

war, and that kind of partisanship is strangling the country. >> we will bring you into the conversation. lloyd grove. >> speaking of your efforts to be bipartisan, last week that convention, you said that they cannot bring out someone with a spanish surname and expect to appeal to latinos. did you hear from any spanish lawmakers about that? >> the next day, george stephanopoulos asked marco rubio what he thought of that, and his answer was, "i agree with antonio and villaraigosa, but that is true of both

parties." he is right. that is true of both parties. it is not just true of latinos. i will not just vote for you because you are latino or african-american or asian- american. you vote for people based on what they have done, what they are going to do. the notion that great speeches and having people at the convention -- the joke was that they had more people on stage than they did in the crowd. i heard somebody say that on tv. let's be clear, we are a much more diverse party.

i am going to be keynoting the jefferson-jackson dinner in iowa -- >> that is a momentous event, probably a prelude to other things. >> it is an honor. it is so diverse. i went to the event -- the party for the southern states, and it was so diverse, and it was great to see that. our party is a party that welcomes a broad cross-section of people. i agree with him, it applies as much to us as it does to them, but our policies are much more inclusive.

they are for voter suppression laws, voter i.d. laws. we are for a constitution that -- not putting in the constitution clauses that limit them. you did not really hear a response -- the other thing, by the way, i thought that the two best speeches of the republican convention were marco rubio, very inspiring, and susana martinez. i love clint eastwood, i respect him, he is a great actor. that was not his finest performance. [laughter] i think it is unfair to do that to clint eastwood. they are supposed to be so

organized, so scripted, we are supposed to be the managers. somebody did not manage that very well. >> how do you avoid your empty chair moment? [laughter] >> by not having empty rhetoric, by telling the truth -- >> oh, come on, let's talk about the management of the convention, let's talk about it in a literal way. >> the dinner was for a lot of the people -- some of you folks, but for the people doing the hard work. i have not done any of the heavy lifting. there are hundreds of passionate, dedicated staff members. there were thousands more

volunteers who helped to make that work. i don't get any credit for it. i will get blamed -- that is what comes with these jobs, and i accept it. i think it will be managed very well. it will be difficult getting from place to place. someone asked me about the difference between the los angeles convention, boston, denver, and now charlotte, and it felt like it went very smoothly, and it did because there is a lot of security. you need to give yourself extra time did i almost got late for the early show on cbs. it was hard getting in.

i am hoping it will go as smoothly as possible, but we will see. in an event that big, with that many moving parts, there is always something that will not go as planned. >> there are a lot of people -- the folks we will see and hear -- connect the dots for us, but casual viewers can take away from the three nights. >> i think it and will see themselves, a cross-section of america. i'm not just saying democrats -- i think americans feel good about that. i think they will see a party -- >> help us interpret what we will be seeing, connect the dots.

>> i learned something yesterday i did not know. they ask you, what suit are you wearing, because they what to blend you in right, and i thought they were joking -- >> what suit? >> this is a black one. i have a blue one. when you have to travel like this, you bring two suits and maybe another jacket, that is about it. blue, black. >> if you have a question, please go ahead. say who you are. >> mr. mayor, i'm from seattle, washington. we saw governor o'malley

struggling when he was asked the question of whether we are better off today. why is it so hard defining where things are? >> i opened up knowing i was going to get past that, and yes, we are better off. we lost 3.5 million jobs, and that was the part of his speaking to, but to say something about gov. o'malley, if you listen to his full answer, he hit it out of the park. he laid out the differences that have occurred over the last four years versus the policies that got us here and the beginning of the recession. folks focused on the no, focused -- two of its surrogates did not answer the question --

>> it is a hard question to answer clearly. people are not better off. >> we are better off. are we where we want to be? no way. by the way, you know where the 12 million jobs and that governor romney talked about comes from? you would not know, because he is not shown you that path. moody's analytics said that if we continue on this path, we will create 4 million jobs -- >> obama jobs. >> that is right. we are going to move forward. we have got to do what we've done to get here. my grandpa got here 100 years ago.

he came with the shirt on his back, he worked in the fields of l.a. and california. he built a small business that was very thriving, supported a middle-class life. went to a significant catholic boarding school. loses all his money in the depression. had a younger wife -- she left him. put two daughters in foster home. this was the greatest generation. the the greatest generation suffered during the depression and sacrificed during world war ii said that we can have a better life, that we could make investments in education, the

infrastructure that would make us the envy of the world, and virtually everything that created this quality of life. we understood back then that rewarding work was important. yes, we want to create wealth, no, we don't want a nation of polar opposites. he led the country from rich and poor to our country of opportunity. i believe strongly that president obama's pat is up more along those lines than the path that says to keep on cutting taxes that we cannot afford, cut them in a way that is proportional only helps people that will even, according to most economists -- it is not enough for them, when they have so much money, to make investments. when we cut into the middle

class, the opposite is true. i believe strongly that we are better off. we will be a lot better off if we continue down this road. >> i was watching president clinton's speech on wednesday. how he embraces the president -- there is a piece in "the new yorker" this week that the more obama talks about the clinton economy, the more clinton embraces obama. [laughter] >> i love you guys. well, first of all, the clinton years were great years. the clinton policies are the obama policies. the bush years that clinton inherited, bush 41, were taken

to the steroid level with bush 43, they don't want to tie themselves to bush, and we want to tie ourselves to clinton. >> have you not seen clinton's speech? >> i have not seen any speech. >> working on your own? >> got to do this, got to run the city. i pick up the phone, what is happening over there, what do we got to do. i just started working on my speech -- it is a 6-minute speech, after all. >> one of your hallmarks in l.a. is the half-penny sales- tax increase for transportation.

you are not trying to extend it 8. what are your hopes for transportation at a time when we are not -- >> we have a half-penny sales tax on the ballot. california needed a 2/3 vote to pass that. we have the worst traffic in the nation, and we have to start making investments in doubling the size of our rail system, public transit, repairing highways and bridges, providing investments we need to grow our economy, and infrastructure is that foundation. everybody said it was a lark. there was a lot of opposition. but almost immediately, people said, well, it you said you are building a subway, doubling the

size of the rail system. i said, "ma'am --" this was a town hall or something -- "this is a half-penny sales-tax." waydon't meet figure out a -- i went to the congress, and said, "you have a little program underfunded, transportation zone program. anddon't you reward cities states that want to put up their own money that want to make these investments?

you will create 1 million jobs." everybody laughed me out. my paper said there he goes again. i did not go to washington to watch it cherry blossoms bloom. i brought a $46 million loan from the program, and we got america fast forward, $1.75 billion in loans to cities like mine that want to put up their money, 30-one on average, because it is a loan that allows us to leverage their own dollars. i am saying to the people of california, l.a., let's extend this, and we will be able to build all of this with the program, american passport, and

the extension, in 10 years. -- america fast forward. we have opened up four light rail -- three light rail lines, one bus way, we are in construction on two others. next year we are going to break ground on the regional connector. an unprecedented effort to remake the city. host,'s talk about our charlotte. what do you think of this as a convention city? >> first of all, all of us, don't you just love southern hospitality? i mean it. they are so warm, so gracious. >> different from southern california hospitality? [laughter] >> actually, we are fairly warm, too. but everyone -- like in spanish, mi casa es su casa.

very warm in that respect. this is a beautiful city -- the green space and the urban improvements. >> what things have you seen? >> i've not been to -- i've been to one interview after another. i've not seen a lot of fun things. i loved the place we were in last night. i love the downtown. i love -- great mayor here. rising star appeared when you talk about the new in south, he is the face of the new south. this is a city that you could easily see yourself living in. >> you are glad the convention

is here? >> absolutely. i mean, look, we want to be the party of the big tent. there is no geographic part of this city that we're not going to work hard to win. we won by 14,000 last time around. we are within the margin of error right now. we are spending a lot of money, and i think that north carolinians are going to be appreciative of that. people want you to work for their vote. we are going to work hard for the vote of the people of this state. >> what are president obama's chances of winning here again? >> i think they are very good. he is either up or within the margin -- >> new poll in "the charlotte

observer" today that romney is up by four, a margin of three. >> ok, within the margin. i did not see that poll because i've been from one event to another. this is going to be a long few weeks ahead here. 64 days now. we are going to work hard all the way to election day. we have always said this would be a close election. the country is evenly divided. but i expect we are going to win. >> thank you out there in c-span and, thank you for watching on politico.com. we thank "the charlotte observer" for being a part of this and your great coverage. we thank bank of america for making this possible. thank you, mayor, for your visit. [applause]

[captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> tonight, more analysis and a preview of the democratic convention with politico. we will have that live on c-span starting at 6:00 p.m. eastern. we will also take you live to louisiana where president obama is speaking and taking a break from campaigning to survey the damage from hurricane isaac. you can watch this alive at 7:20 at st. john the baptist parish. that is 25 miles from new orleans. and now a look at a somewhat rainy charlotte, n.c.. this is where the democratic national convention takes place tomorrow. this is six blocks away from where the delegates and speakers will be gathered tomorrow.

streets are shut down for carolinafest as people celebrate for labor day. >> this is the scene in charlotte, north carolina delegates will continue to stream into town. c-span's cameras will be capturing the scene. to constrain our videos from charlotte live all day on -- you can stream our videos from charlotte live all day on c- span.org. we have more clips and comments at our c-span convention hub/

c-span.org/campaign2012. during the convention, we're asking middle and high school students to send a message to the president with the c-span student cam video competition. in a short video, answer the question was the most important issue the president should consider in a 2013. $5,000 is the grand prize with $50,000 in total prize is available. for more details and rules, go online to studentcam.org. republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan campaign and the battleground state of north carolina today. this is in greenville, about 250 miles away from charlotte or the president and vice president will be appearing for the convention this week to receive the official nomination from

their party. this is about 25 minutes. >> hey, hey. awesome. while. -- wow. thank you. you know, i was just talking to pat. he tells me you are going to win next week. go pirates! thank you so much, greenbelts. it is really nice to be here. i also hear that you have really good barbecue. my old buddy ron hayes is here, too. i am so happy to be here with your next governor pat mccrory. [applause] friends, there is a little gathering going on in charlotte.

[audience booing] we know your gernor is over there and you're lieutenant governor and we also know president obama is going to be there. and president obama is going to be giving it a big speech. and there are going to be a lot of speeches, a lot of words. let me quote president obama four years ago "if you do not have our record to run on, then you paid your opponent as someone to run from." ladies and gentleman, that is exactly what president obama is doing today. [applause] you see, the president has no record to run on. in fact, every president from the great depression who asked america to send them into a second term could say you were better off except for jimmy

carter and except for president obama. [applause] in july of 1980, the unemployment rate was 7.8%. for the past 42 months, it has been above 8% under barack obama's failed leadership. when businesses go bankrupt -- when businesses go bankrupt, that means fewer paychecks. fewer jobs. the unemployment rate in north carolina is 9.6%. in 1980, under jimmy carter 330 businesses filed for bankruptcy. last year, 1.4 million businesses filed for bankruptcy. we have a very clear choice. take a look of people having a hard time making mortgage payments. 77,000 delinquent mortgages by

the time jimmy carter left office. under president obama, 3 million. so, when you take a look here in charlotte today, the president can say a lot of things and he will, but he cannot tell you that you are better off. the jimmy carter years look like the good old days compared to where we are right now. [applause] and so, that is why we have a very crystal clear choice. we can either choose to stay on the path that we are on, the path of debt, the power of the doubt and decline, the path of joblessness, or we can get things turned around. we can elect mitt romney the next president of united states. we can get america back on track. that is what we can do. [applause]

after four -- i love you, too, man. after four years of the runaround, it is time for a turnaround. and that is why we need mitt romney. [applause] what is missing is leadership. leadership to actually see the problem and fix the problem. mitt romney is the kind of person whose entire life story tells us this is the kind of leader we need. very few times before have i ever seen a situation where the man and the moment meet so perfectly. look at what this man has done with his life. look at the beautiful family he has raised. look at the communities he has supported. look at the tens of thousands of jobs he has helped create. remember the olympics when they were back in salt lake?

remember the stories of corruption, of bloated, wasteful spending? sounds familiar, doesn't it? what did they do? in utah, they asked the man from massachusetts to drop everything and say the. he moved his family. he said the olympics. he turned around. he made it an american success story and we are all better for it. [applause] look at what the man has done in business. and by the way -- is a good thing to be successful in business. we do not think that is bad. we do not resent people who are successful in business. we want to emulate people. when what more people to be successful in business. that is how you create jobs and prosperity. [applause] mitt romney was a man who turned

around struggling businesses, who started small businesses, who helped big businesses. i am so proud to stand up to -- next to a man who knows from experience that if you built a small business, you can have the small business. [applause] just line up the record of these two gentleman when they served in public life. under president obama, we have 23 million men and women in this country struggling to find work. 9.6% unemployment right here in north carolina. one of every six americans today is living in poverty. that is the highest rate in the

generation. take a look at family income. household income in this country as a result of these failed economic policies has gone down $4,000 over the last four years. the credit rating of united states of america, our precious credit rating, has been downgraded for the first time in the history of our country. when mitt romney was governor of massachusetts, he led. when he was governor of massachusetts, unemployment went down. when mitt romney was governor of massachusetts, household income rose $5,000. when mitt romney was governor of massachusetts, the credit rating improved in massachusetts. [applause] that is the kind of leadership we need. and remember, when president obama about four years ago said we are not read states or blue states, we are just the united states of america.

we will set aside job listings and get things done for the people. this is the most divisive atmosphere i have seen and this is the third president i have served with. when it mitt romney was the governor of massachusetts, nine of 10 legislators in his legislature were democrats. he did not demonize them. he did not demagogue. he reached across the aisle and he passed the budget without raising taxes. that is the kind of leadership we need. [applause] now we are going to hear a lot of words this week. but here is the final word we're not going to hear. we are not going to hear about how people are better off. pc the president cannot run on his record.

-- you see the president cannot run on his record. that is why he will be running a campaign based on nt and division based on frustration and anger. guess what? we are not going to fall for it, are we? audience: no! >> and then he will talk about medicare. i am excited about this debate. we will win this debate on medicare. [applause] let me tell you why. would you probably -- under obamacare, president obama takes $716 billion from medicare to pay for obamacare. the call that an achievement. i understand there are a lot of people who go to medical school here.

medicare -- obamacare is the greatest threat to medicare and obamacare is among the greatest threats to young people who want a future in health care and the best way we can give people a future with health care and save medicare is if we repeal obamacare. that is what we are going to do. [cheers and applause] we want to be in control of our health care. we want to keep the promise. and so, we do not think it is just enough to point out terrible policies. we do not think it is just enough to point out the kind of ugly campaign that is being run. we owe you an alternative. we want to earn your support. we want to deserve victory. we want to make sure that when you go to the polls, you know that you get a very clear choice of two futures. here is what we are going to do to get people back to work in

this country. here are the ideas. that is what the romney-rights plan for a stronger middleclass is all about. get people from welfare to work. is about getting people back on their feet again. it is about free enterprise. [applause] we believe in the principles that made this country the greatest, the most feest, most prosperous country in this land. that is what made this country great. [applause] hour at 5-point plan is really quite. one, we've got a lot of energy

in this country. let's use that energy in this country. create jobs, lower gas prices. keystone pipeline, natural gas, oil, coal, nuclear. renewables. a lot @. and look at the people struggling to find jobs. we want them to be able to go to great go toecu to develop -- great institutions like ecu to get in the education training system so they can get those jobs and get those skills. [applause] and by the way, we know that if we make more things like these great boats you make here -- very cool boats, by the way.

and we know if we grow more things with our fantastic agricultural prospects america has, we can sell more things overseas. that is why we need training that works. [applause] we need to level the playing field for our agricultural community. we need to level the playing field for our manufacturers. and we need to crack down on countries that she'd like china so we can make sure that americans play on a level playing field and if we do that, we when. we need to create jobs right here. there is one issue that is something i have worked on a long time. it seems to me like common- sense. has escaped the president. he has been lacking in leadership. but all the things he has promised and he has done, it is

basically this. we have got to stop spending money we just don't have. we have got to cut spending. we have got to get this budget deficit under control. we have got to get this deficit under control. it is draining jobs. it is hurting our economy. and it is clearly mortgaging our children's future. and the engine of economic growth, the job creators of this country, are the small businesses. need to champion small businesses. we need to help them out. he will hear the president talk about this a lot. he will say that we just want to cut taxes for really well the people at the expense of everyone else. here's how the game works in washington. and by the way, the republicans are just as guilty of this as democrats. what happens is, you pay your taxes. you send your money to washington. been special interest groups, and they carve out the tax code.

and if you do what they want you to do, then you might get some of that money back. which is one you to keep your money in the first place. -- we just want you to keep your money in the first place. [applause] it is really simple. we don't think jobs and prosperity and growth are created by having washington pick winners and losers. so what we are saying is plug all the loopholes so everyone is the tax rate down by least 20%. this means small businesses, families keep more of what they earn so they can keep their money, make their decisions, decide what they want to do with their lives, invest in businesses, create jobs. [applause] you can do this without even -- more importantly, you get people off the unemployment line and back to earning a paycheck.

their lives are dignified. they are paying taxes. everybody wins. where i come from, we usually think of lake superior as overseas. other countries around the world, they figured this thing out. that figure out if they attack their businesses all lot more than their competitors are, they will lose jobs. well guess what? canada, one of our biggest competitors, one of our biggest trade partners, they lowered the tax rates for all their businesses 15% last january. president obama is requiring, is pushing that the top tax rate on all the successful small businesses were most of our jobs come from are up by 40% in january. [audience boos] 8 out of 10 businesses in america file their taxes as individuals, as people.

we call number -- call them llc's or partners. if we tax our businesses at a higher rate than our competitors, then we lose. and by the way, all these policies the president is talking about means more spending in washington. that is not the way to create prosperity. the way to create prosperity is to unleash the entrepreneur. let them provide. let them build businesses that they build. that is how you create jobs and prosperity. [applause] we don't think the president's idea of taking money from families, of taking money from successful small businesses, and dole in the mouth to favored constituencies -- solyndra and

the rest -- picking the winners , it is regulating. if this kind of economics works, then we would be enjoying a golden age along with greece. it does not work. but this campaign is not just about jobs or the economy or prosperity. it is much bigger than not. no matter what generation you come from, this really is the most important election in your lifetime. it is. [applause] and the reason is because we will be determining not who is going to be president for the next four years. we are going to be determining the path of america for at least a generation. what kind of country do we want to have? what kind of people do we want

to be? that is what is on the ballot. if i could boil this down, it is basically this. our founders thought it right. our rights come from nature and god and not from government. that is the american idea. [applause] that is the entire vision of america. we believe government is there to secure all right. we believe the president has compromised national security. we believe the goal of government is for -- to promote be equality of opportunity. we believe in freedom and liberty works. we want to stick with it. when we apply those principles

and elect good men and women to go to washington to turn this around, we will look back on this moment and say we got it right. "the americans can be counted upon to do the right thing, but only after they have exhausted all the other possibility is," compared -- said winston churchill. i think he got it right about now. this is the commitment meet and mitt romney will make your fellow citizens. we will not kick the can down the road. we will leave. we will not blame others for the next four years and play the policies of division. we will take responsibility. we will get that done. [applause] and we will not try to replace our founding principles or try to transform this country into something it was never intended

to be. we will reapply our founding principles and -- principals. they make us who we are. [applause] this is a defining moment. the president cannot tell you that you are better off. and if we want to improve things, then how would this administration to accomplish that? it would not. friends, north carolina is crucial. eastern north carolina is crucial. this is one of those kinds of elections where individual states may make the determination not just of who the next governor is going to be or who the next president is going to be, but what kind of land your kids are going to inherit. this is it. we can do it. the point i want to make to you is it is in our control.

we are americans. we can control our own destiny. we can do this. this is something we can get done. god bless you all and thank you for coming out today. let's do this. we can do this. thank you very much. thank you very much. ♪ >> ♪ riding down the highway stopping on the byway let it rick let it roll let it hide

let it jump it's a long way to the top if you want to rock n' roll it's a long way to the top if you want to rock n' roll doing one-it's easy night stands in a rock-and-roll band it's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll ♪

♪ >> c-span's gavel-to-gavel coverage of the democratic convention starts tomorrow at 5:00 eastern. every minute, every speech live on c-span, c-span radio, and live at c-span.org. featured speakers include first lady michelle obama and the mayor of san antonio. elizabeth warren and bill clinton. thursday, vice president joe biden and president barack obama. use our convention hub to make and share video clips. >> this november, the torch will be passed again to a nope -- a

new generation of americans. with barack obama and for you and for me, our country will be committed to his cause. the work begins a new -- anew. the hope rises again. and the dream lives on. >> share your opinions. >> hi. my name is dawn. i am here because i am supporting a visionary, inclusive america. >> hi, i'm jeff from vermont. in supporting president obama because i believe we all need to make an investment in america. >> hello. my name is diane. i am a delegate from south carolina. my main purpose for this week is to reelect president obama because i know president obama

cares about us. >> and connect with other c-span viewers on a twitter and google plus. >> it is a warm, rainy day in charlotte, n.c. c-span cameras capturing the scene on the ground during carolinafest. delegates can expect more rain and thunderstorms here tomorrow. ." up and cleared as people look for a place to gather under umbrellas here at carolinafest, celebrating labor day. we will take a moment just to look here at charlotte.

>> the rain and democratic delegates will stream here and to charlotte. cézanne's cameras capturing the scene on the ground and it can find our video feed of this streamed live all day. just get to c-span.org. analysis from the road to the white house. >> welcome to our viewers for our convention coverage. we're kicking off here with my colleagues. we will be joined by a parade of

politicos. mood.start off with even though it is raining outside, there is a different mood that it -- in tampa. tampa fl like a war zone. there was a much security. there's a lot of security here but not as intrusive. more of a street carnival atmosphere. more diverse crowd and also a county fair element. there were cooking gyros, a rock climbing wall. is that the difference between the parties? >> they felt it was important -- the chairman of the dnc will be joining us within the next half- hour.

>> they wanted to have an open event, an open-air event, that is what they felt was important to have. as opposed to the insider, a closed door events. >> the convention has not begun. the convention starts tuesday. they shifted day off the convention. barack obama will be arriving later in the week. there was -- talking about at this year. a street carnival and a different environment in the convention. there are different caucuses. a youth and hispanic caucus, different speakers. it has the feel of a real convention. a little bit more. we did not see many salvatore t-

shirts. >> my experience is true. republicans are more more disciplined -- are more disciplined, more button-down. democrats tend to be more kanof but looser and more proposition 0. that is the tricky balance in the convention. this was a total belly flop with clint eastwood. do you think there will be any clint eastwood style moments in charlotte? >> i was planning -- trying to take out any potential unplanned drama. >> i what -- i was at a breakfast and someone brought an empty chair to that stage and

had a conversation with that. and kicked it off. >> a couple of notes, we are hoping i think but it is raining outside and there may be a damper on things. we may have to hold on the depending on what the weather has done to them. we can go to the arena. give us a wod -- a word picture, what is taking place? >> they are setting up for tomorrow. very quiet, subdued in vernon. i agree with you. this has been a very, more open -- relaxed, more open.

people in the street carnival are very loose and casual and it is something you have to do. this is a democratic base and it needs to get energized. they need to get back out to support the president because we saw the democrats come out in droves to elect the president. he has four years of record in which has the disappointed a lot of his -- he has disappointed a lot of people. >> the atmosphere may be a festive but if you go back to the bad calls, you can pick up a discernible note of kravis and it can pick up that note on politico where we are we're pulling some democrats saying -- polling some democrats who are saying that barack obama did not

do anything for the party. there was a similar story in "the wall street journal" and we have a story on the same crabby theme of number democrats getting impatient. >> the point we tried to make in a story tonight was republicans -- lawmakers are grappling and try to get on the ladder for the lowest ranking leadership. democratic leadership has not moved the rest of the party. the folks speaking year are also fresh faces. you have the house democratic caucus. three lawmakers in their 70's who show no signs of bleeding.

nancy pelosi sent out a fund- raising e-mail. she had a quarter million dollars in donations. still very effective but very kind of not fresh faces. >> if you put these under democrats on truth serum -- what do they want? what these guys to recognize their time is coming on and move on, or what? >> if you put them on truth serum, they would say we need their money. they are great fund-raisers and they're great for the party. the reason house democrats are deep in the minority, one of the reasons why democrats tell us behind-the-scenes they know there will not take the house back. they're not excited. they can raise money but they're not excited about the leadership in a lot of ways. >> that story now on politico.com.

this week it is -- describe what a successful democratic convention looks like. if we were back here on friday morning, trying to judge if the democrats succeed, or did they fall short? >> i talked to people -- the obama is no longer the new, shiny object. this is not the same thing. people need to be rallied and empowered. this is about the jobs, what more they do. can he get down and dirty in these issues? >> is a successful democratic convention? >> it comes away looking -- this

is a president who would right the ship. the president will fix the economy and paint read mitt romney as some and you cannot trust. there were able to -- they were able to build up mitt romney's liability. democrats need to tear down that likability and hope by the end in of the week, voters do not trust them and will give the president the benefit of the doubt. >> one of the common themes in tampa is speaker after speaker returning to that one line, a bogle blind -- bungled line. every speaker came back to that line to make the point

that barack obama does not respect private enterprise, does not value individual initiative. do you think republicans need to counter that explicitly in charlotte? >> the thing you hear from democrats as mitt romney wants to take the party back to george bush policies, their parties that say we cannot run against george bush any more. george bush is not on the ticket. we need them to tell us -- there was a great story on the website about these and the desire from democrats for, to come out and say how will you [inaudible] even something they do what. >> that is a great point. i think the trust issue is a very important one. i have heard it several times. people feel -- they cannot trust

mitt romney or paul ryan. it is an -- a powerful undercurrent. >> are you still there? our colleague. in this election cycle, she had a baby and her materially of is coming to an end. she wrote that one problem with the campaign is he has no one sentence answer to the question, give me another four years and i will do x. six months later, i am not clear that he has filled in that blank that was identified earlier. what you think? >> that is the hardest part about his campaign. they have a real difficulty telling what they will do in another four years but i think that if he wins, they will ask -- and cutting a lot of deals in congress with republicans in

congress. this is a divided congress, no matter who wins in the senate in the fall, there will have to cut a deal. those are things that folks may not like. you may -- will not hear the president talking about that. he will define mitt romney as someone who will keep taxes low and take away the social safety net. that is what it will advertise. there will not get to that one word answer. >> still the primarily-appeal. more than positive appeal, here is what i am going to do. it would not be a democratic convention if there were not so me protests. we do have some protests out in the streets. let's look at some video of that. that will have debbie wasserman schultz joining us on the other side of that.

>> i was there -- [no audi[inau] >> people are sick and tired of joblessness, homelessness. >> i am here to protest the fake two-party system that we have. we have no choice in whether we get corporate candidate a or corporate can it b-- candidate b.

>> you do not see any difference? >> you have the same corporate policies and have the same basic tenets of for a policy and i do not see any difference. >> the democratic party does not really represent the values i wanted to come out today to show that they're more of left. the democrats are pretty center. >> [rapping] >> we are at the politico hub. is it raining or you just like that hat? >> no synthetic fibers.

>> emitted in from this pouring rain. let's go down to debbie wasserman schultz who is joining us at the arena. >> thank you for joining us. your biggest -- [unintelligible] >> i want your view of this, your playbook view. what is a successful convention? >> the successful convention, people say i like barack obama and i remember why i used to like him and probably a better idea of four mayor warriors would.

>> what do you think? >> that was hope and change. >> it cannot have the same. we can do is try to look forward. what they want to hear is what is going on. they do not blame him for anything. they're not angry, they're not worried. they think he's going to win the the what the vision for the next four years. >> i do not get it. why is that so hazy? why is he not say in every single speech, let me and i will do these three things. -- elect me and we will do these three things. >> they claim they do that. they have material they claim is on the table. nobody cares. it is not the lack of a thing in terms of the program by people

have accused mitt romney. he has played a lot of [inaudible] incremental change. >> you have to give -- do not have to give the correct answer. >> you tell me if i am right. anything that would say that would sound crisp and declared it would be divisive in ways they do not want. what was fresh in 2008, we will pass an energy bill. some of this stuff -- it does not identify the democratic

base. they have to talk about the next four years, where they want to be specific is on the republican failings and mitt romney's failings. >> how optimistic or worried were delegates about the outcome in november? >> i did not find them worried at all. what i found that was interesting is instead of being despondent about last week and feel there was a threat out there, they fell more energetic and they looked at that and said we had better read the the sky. a lot of them said we feel more result, we will double down. >> do think the obama campaign was relieved or happy about the republican convention? >> i think they have done something in this cycle that barack obama has not been able to accomplish which is to get the democratic base more

motivated and having a sense of a threat. people have this notion of what 2008 was. it was sold out hope. change is a negative message. we do not like this guy so there westphal a sense of what was happening in 2008 and the obama people are now offering to shy away. we will see this hybrid, something more programmatic. >> every garden party has a skunk. you are that skunk with the story that you wrote yesterday, leading in to the convention saying, you can scratch away the exterior celebration. barack obama does not want to be here with his fellow democrats in charlotte and none of his democrats want to be with him. this is not the world's happiest marriage. is that a fair summary?

>> they are staying together for the children. we will leave it at that end we will go now to the democratic national committee chairwoman, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. welcome to politico live. >> nice to be with you. >> you are here with your 30- year-old twins, your 8-year-old, your husband. -- 13-year-old twins. >> i am so proud to make this a family affair as part of what will be the most inclusive, and rolfe, committee oriented presidential nomination in history. we started this week with a community festival, celebrating the carolinas, carolina fast kicks off today and at the end of this week, president obama will accept our party's

nomination for a second term in front of tens of thousands of americans who will then be able to get involved in this campaign because we used our convention as an organizing tool and we were able to in 2008 after the same event on thursday night to sign up 25,000 volunteers in a single day. we're excited about the momentum that we know president obama will leave this convention with going into the fall campaign. >> what will democrats know or think or feel about president obama friday that they do not today? >> america will know after listening to president obama's acceptance speech that he has had an honest conversation. he talks about where we were when he first became president after inheriting the largest set of problems since fdr and in it because -- an economy that was hemorrhaging jobs and affixes policy after four years we have had 29 straight months of job growth in the private sector, a

resurgence in the manufacturing sector in creating jobs since the 1990's. we rescued the automobile industry, and industry mitt romney would have left the go bankrupt. bankrupt. go when people ask the question, are they better off today than they were four years ago, the answer is yes. the economy was losing 3.5 million jobs when president obama took office and now we have job growth. we have a ways to go but we need a president who will understand that if you work hard and play by the rules, everybody in america has an opportunity to be successful, not just the people who already are successful. >> how are you? >> how are you? >> thanks for joining us. i have been talking to delegates and the one thing that comes

through is they want to hear from -- specifics. they did not want generalities as they heard in tampa for mitt romney. they want to know where the president is going to go in the next four years. can you shed any light on that on what he will say and what specifics might be on the table? >> if you look at specifics of that president obama has put on the table, the republicans -- that is part of the future. republicans have refused to take up that legislation and they have left 1 million jobs on the table. we need to continue to make sure that we can invest in infrastructure and help keep teachers and police officers on the job and create great energy jobs and extend the wind energy tax credit so we can invest in renewable energy and create green jobs and we do not let the 7000 jobs that are tied to the windt industry in iowa go by the wayside.

he will talk about the importance of making sure that when it comes to an economy, by ensuring we have a tax policy that asks ever want to pay their fair share and not just take their approach that the budget has. the cut and burn approach, cutting health care, kaeding head start, turning medicare into a voucher system and giving millionaires and billionaires a tax break paid for by the middle class. president obama will not only let out the support but talk about the different directions we can go and specifically how we can get there to continue to move our family forward -- country forward. >> how many of those -- seats do you think you'll be able to fill? we suffer the romney campaign,

-- saw through the running campaign -- [inaudible] >> this is the largest grassroots campaign this country has seen. what will happen on thursday night is barack obama will accept our party's nomination. as we have done before, use our convention as an organizing tool to get thousands of people signed a to get involved in the campaign over 60 days and it will -- that will be left before the election day and an opportunity to put that momentum behind president obama and carry him back to the white house for a second term. >> there has been a number of stories in the press in recent days, on political and else -- politico and elsewhere that suggests his operation is more focused on the president's re- election, not doing as much as

some have done to build the party. to raise money for other aircraft to mention them in speeches. the democrat said he has been on air force one twice, both times with the previous president. not with barack obama. what do you make of that? >> i am not sure what a ride on air force one has to do with party building. since i have been chair of the democratic national committee and during -- this president has made a commitment to make sure that we can invest in the party building that we need and we have the state party partnership and make sure some of the money raised raise goes to our party is as well as those parties that are from the territories. we have used our vast grassroots infrastructure as well as our considerable online outrage to make sure that we can raise money for house candidates and senate candidates and i know i have done a lot of circuit work

for my colleagues in the house and candid it's running for the house as well as four candidates -- candidates running for the house as well as four candidates running for senate. we can help everyone in america have an opportunity to be successful and make sure we implement president obama's goals of building our economy from the middle class down. we need to take majority back for democrats and house and hold onto armor jeopardy -- onto our majority. >> you have a couple more months. what would be the results? how close are you? >> i am certainly not in the prediction business. i am in the get it done business. i will spend the next 64 days making sure that we continue to stand up the most involved

campaign in history and we will use our grassroots to carry barack obama and the rest of our democratic had its back to -- kerry president obama back to the white house and elected democrats across this country so we can make sure we can have elected office holders fighting for the middle class. that is what we're all about. >> we will still -- see a lot of real people, lot of women. what is the story you intend to tell with the convention itself? >> what is a clear difference is you will see our convention compared to last week. they presented a superficial look at different people.

you'll see hundreds who are from every walk of life. from different ethnic groups and our delegations are half man and half women. diversity is important. you can make sure that the policy -- policies are reflective of the rich diversity we know is so important in america act, to make sure that the priorities of the large variety of americans are made part of the national agenda. when all you do is treat different groups in a superficial way, what that means is there is not a lot done for hispanic americans, african

lgbt americans, poor americans. that is the contrast between alesci and the stage and also represented by our delegates among the delegates on the floor. have spent all lot of time in charlotte and become part of the committee. how is the setting -- this city working out as a convention city? >> shalit has been a phenomenal host city. i am so proud of them. the mayor and i have become good friends. i have been here so many times over the last 16 months with president obama. we have seen an exciting throng of people who will make sure that this is a community oriented, participatory, inclusive convention that lets

everyone know that they should get involved and they can be part of reelecting this president. so that he can continue the policies that make sure that you work hard and play by the rules, if you get a fair shot and pay your fair share, it should have an opportunity to be successful. that is what it is all about. >> thank you for joining us at this busy start of the convention. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> did you get the feeling there would be more [inaudible] do you feel like he will make them here? >> the speech is being very closely held. [inaudible] i don't think there is a tremendous amount of clarity. what you will see are the ones intended to put mitt romney on

[inaudible] we will see more involving explicit job creation. something similar to what happened last year. more designed to get a reaction from the republicans. >> back to these found at the party role. if they could do it over again, with this white house go somewhere other than charlotte, north carolina? >> i think it is working out much better. people are happy. one of those interesting things, when they were first going through, but wanted you to have a night in each of one of four cities. >> on the theory that would touch a lot of different bases. having it in different places --

that what the big stadium. the network hated it. and there is something to be said for tradition. people who come to this want to come. people like coming in. >> north carolina is not a competitive state. >> the mironov ready to concede that. there is one point where -- [inaudible] >> the election will be slipping from the's grasp -- romney's grasp. >> they won by 14,000 votes and they think they can put off again. someone made an interesting point that even though romney is

up in the polls, a lot do not include cell phones. there are people who do not have land mines. maybe they're not reaching them. they think it is closer. >> the other issue here is we do not talk about this much. if the obama people are forcing the romney people to get more organizing muscle in the same way that the unions did in wisconsin, they drew all the union money into that, diverting it from the obama effort -- the cromie effort. they're going into places they should not be going. the >> i mentioned earlier carolinafest. >> i did not see them on the

street. >> people are pulling out empty chairs. >> here are some sheens -- scenes. >> to back it up they launched the festivities this week with carolina fest, a public party. it had a touch of a national party. with national acts and talk of national politics.

despite the obvious opportunity for democrats to influence and register voters in a swing state, attendees like this idaho delicate assert this is non- partisan. >> this is not a benefit to the democratic party. this represents the democratic party. all these people coming together, this is the democratic party and they're helping each other. that is all we have seen. >> thanks to our colleague for that video. >> what a comedown from what had been planned. .hey're supposed to be out >> i want to ask you something

we were talking to the chairwoman about witches the feeling of democrats toward president obama and vice versa. you were kicking off the story, that is a good story that ran in politico on sunday, also ran in the charlotte observer. >> we're partnered with the charlotte observer. it will be a great combo. we have the local and regional ankle well covered -- angle well covered and we're helping with the national angle. >> if you are looking at one dynamic that made his term in office more difficult than i had to be, is the innate sense of isolation.

there's a sense that you are on obama island. there is -- this is not a guy who pretends to bring people in close. he is kind of cool. >> you have been covering the presidency for a long time. and before that. who was good at that? if you think about the tools that the president has, you can invite them to state dinners and barbecues on the south lawn traded can invite them up to camp david. president obama has used three littell. >> i would say [inaudible] i did a story once years ago about how they would have these parties in the residence and he would try to fix people up on

dates. he had a lot of fun with it. people would come to camp david. >> was that the message? >> george w. went to bed very early.th the president had friends and they reached out to the media. mrs. obama does not like to go to things in the city, social things. >> in 2008 there was a sense that the obamas were a young presidency, there would be a new version of camelot in washington. that is not what happened. >> not all. they went back, michelle went

back to the chicago friends. there were asking them to come to camp david. with the exception of that, the back to their old buddies and they bring those kids to play with their kids. >> this is -- people say the president has not made one friend. [inaudible] >> there is a lot of issue with the way the first lady does a lot of stuff. instead of mixing it up and adding cabinet people, he did a linear list, he did it

alphabetically. they [inaudible] i'm not going to hang around and a lot were offended. >> is there anybody in his circle with enough experience are common sense to say [inaudible] this could be costing you what you need to get elected. there is a question here about advisers who say -- you're not using [inaudible] >> if you're not a natural extra work, someone who takes energy from those interactions, president obama seems to like to some of the time. michelle obama does not give a sense of someone who wants to have a big party in her house. the last thing you want is a bunch of strangers coming over.

>> laura bush told me something once that was interesting. she said, it is so easy to entertain at the white house because everything is done for you. all you have to do is pick up the phone and say -- i have to pick up the kids from school. there is the entourage. [inaudible] you have to call and say, hello, i would like to have seven for dinners in -- dinner in two hours. >> the president can work out, everyone can work out. [inaudible] >> president obama is the same way. when i walked in to the west

wing, i am an outsider. there are very few people in the west wing -- that is another thing. there is a certain uniformity. >> who does the president played golf with? bill clinton played with everyone. >> [inaudible] we will see you soon -- season and after on the video break. watch out for the celebrity cameos. >> thunderbolt and lightfoot. lightfoot was clint. he got famous again last week. >> i missed that scene. >> let me asked with you --

>> i am not asking you to say anything bad against him. >> bill maher said he killed. >> would you say -- what have you done any stand up? >> with an empty chair. said it was obama. he could try a puppet next time. >> he was in good shape [inaudible] >> this is an actual story. and we did a piece about the wrangling behind the scenes at

the democratic leadership. people are starting to elbow up the donors. >> how did that story come about? what would prompt you to do such an off message story? >> jake was going [inaudible] there was -- thyey were talking to the california delegates. they are the big vote. you want to make sure that you have friends over there, especially [inaudible] >> this story pops up today. >> we made a lot of calls.

>> what is the best nugget in there? >> arianna huffington has her own -- she says she does not need to go anywhere else because people come to her. >> [inaudible] and carrying their umbrellas over them as they walked around to the various events outside. >> i have a voice in my ear from our political handler. we give free booze. >> we are here in the packer plant, a few blocks from the

time warner cable arena. this for we do our shows and let events and behind us we have a party. we will be here all night. quex are the people here who are political stars? you see that sometimes at conventions. the crowd follows them, cameras follow them. you have a star attraction. >> there is a lot of attention today. and [inaudible] a big rising star. that was part of their -- almost all women. they announced a program, there was one day when they announced -- [inaudible]

all of them were women. >> someone like jesse jackson, still has huge popularity in the people around him. there were walking around doing his thing. the crowds of people. it is the chance for those who -- people who are reliving their glory days. >> the guy plays music in a band. he is playing here at the convention. >> did you get a rain check? >> there's some people who have chosen not to come to the convention. they had other work at home. who is the biggest name who is

absent from this convention? >> fascinatingly, the democratic house campaign chairman -- [inaudible] heren't come here, stay where the votes are. >> the secretary -- certainly the [inaudible] >> [inaudible] he is "the dude." he is exactly who he seems to be in the movie "the big lebowski." he [inaudible]

try to focus. >> and 59. >> i think he is over 60. do you remember him on [inaudible] >> i do not. >> what about "the last picture show"? >> i do not remember that. >> jeff bridges, the national spokesman for the no kids hungry program and the founder and president of share our strength. you have been doing this for a

long time. you have been doing this for almost 30 years. in 1988, 24 years ago at the democratic national convention, billy turnedry inside out is the same color. the pain and the agony. tell us about trying to eradicate hunger among children but more broadly, are we making progress? are there efforts we can see, are things going wrong direction? >> we're definitely making progress. the fact that the economy has taken such a bad turn over the last few years has made it difficult because it is adding to the ranks of people living below the poverty line. as you mentioned, the millions of kids in the school lunch program now, there is 32 million on school lunch, less than half of them were getting school breakfast as a result of this note kids hungry campaign. tens of thousands of kids are being added to those programs.

i think a fundamental point here and one of the reasons that jeff's participation at this -- these conventions is so important, these kids are voiceless. we do not have a shortage of food in this country. we do not have a shortage of food programs. they do not make contributions. -- political contributions. >> one of the reasons both parties are supportive of this is the kids are our future. i think of my own kids going hungry, just the moral aspects of it, education, our kids are not getting enough calories to think properly, we're not going to have smart kids. you get kids, it is a health issue. it is costing our country's -- country billions of dollars.

looking into the near future, if our kids are not healthy to our nation will not be healthy. >> you recently wrote an op-ed for a well known and respected publication, politico. it made the argument that barack obama needs now to start pushing this issue. why is it important to do it now before the election in your mind? >> obama has been great on this and he said early on as a candidate that he wanted to end childhood hunger but it is not enough to break -- when election. you have to have a mandate. politics are so paralyzed that if he does win in the ideal world he would be coming into a second term and a second term been able to say this is what the american people want. b-1s to do about -- they want us to do something about poverty and hunger. both parties are trying to go to the middle class but if you want an opportunity in your second term to deliver some of the things you care about, you have to talk to them now. >> the president wanted to end

childhood hunger by 2015. is that a realistic possibility? >> we think it is. the programs are in place to do it. would it -- the dates may change but he has had tom vilsack working on this very aggressively and arne duncan very aggressively. he has put some muscle behind this and we think with the programs that exist, we could do this. >> it reminds me of when kennedy said in 10 years we will put a man on the moon and prior to that, created that context, people were disagreeing about the shape of the rocket and the fuel but when he made that, we will do this to all those arguments, the discussion you want to have happened. what is the best shape. so exciting and such a positive thing that both parties are in on this together.

listen to each other and come up with the solution to end childhood hunger. >> well done. you have a future on " entertainment tonight" as a political reporter. welker ester we can expect over these next three nights. talk us through the stages. >> tuesday night is a big woman night. michelle obama is the main speaker. you'll get more and it will hit hard on that theme. wednesday night is the democratic party united and bill clinton. a big party speaker. it would love to buy in for thursday night. there were reports that bill

clinton is the only speaker who has not turned over his speech to the obama betters. -- vetters. >> what will he say? it will be his night. >> of course he will not get out of the park. >> he will. thursday, the close. obama always arrives on that occasion like this. there were disappointing numbers on how romney's speech performed. thursday will be the big bijan-a bomb opportunity. >-- biden-obama opportunity. >> this would [inaudible] the get 90 minutes prime time

from the -- the network. >> that is the kick off. we will be back here for the next four nights. >> great job, thank you for during that interview. >> tomorrow morning, the play but breakfast starts at 8:00 a.m. eastern. tonight we will take you live to louisiana where president obama is visiting st. john the baptist parish. 35 miles upriver from new orleans, one of the areas damaged by hurricane isaac. we will have the president live in 20 minutes. 7:20 p.m. eastern time. some insight on the democratic convention from a reporter with the charlotte observer. >> joining us now from charlotte is kim funk from "the charlotte

observer." is the renne ready to go for the convention? >> it looks like it is. i was there friday and it looked pretty dazzling. they spent $7 million over seven weeks i think to make it ready for tv. it has a 60-foot height array of screens and all kinds of patriotic symbols and the north carolina delegation is sitting up front, we noticed that right away. >> tell us about the preparations for charlotte over the past six months, year, however long it has been. what is the process? >> you know, there is a charlotte host committee which has been preparing welcome parties for the delegates which happened last night. they had a big party for the press saturday night. we had press from all over the world here so they would like everyone to write nice things about this city that has come into its own, it is the home of the biggest bank in the country which is why we have a lot of

protesters here, but it is also a vibrant city. the recession has had some doubts. it has its reputation for being a can do city that reinvents itself pretty used to be a textile center and it was a banking center and now it is trying to become an energy hub. we're having a street fair downtown and you are seeing these electric cars with hookups and so basically, they have been trying to prepare the city, clean it up, not clean enough but spruce it up. they also are charged with raising the money to pay for the actual convention. $36.60 million. that has been more difficult in -- than in previous years because the president with this restriction on them they could not accept any corporate cash, any money from lobbyists, and no individual contributions over $100,000. there's lots of loopholes they can take -- they can take

unlimited amounts from labor unions and in kind from contributions. it has been tough and it will not tell us how they're doing what everyone seems excited and the show is on. >> according to the bureau of labor statistics, the unemployment rate for charlotte is 10%. the present is 10%. when you say the largest bank, demint bank of america. odierno the employment levels, how many people are employed? >> i do not. quite a few. 40,000. i do not know if that is true. >> the statement where the president will be accepting his nomination is called the bank of americus stadium. when you look at downtown charlotte, is it walkable, is

it possible for the delegates? tell us about downtown during the convention. >> it is one of the most compact cities they have ever had for a convention. there are a lot of hotels. a lot of delegates are downtown. they are spread out in other counties nearby. they are being shuttled in. i think they have it easy. some of the locals are concerned about the lack of parking. there are a lot offenses. there is a police presence. there has been a lot of protesters and a lot of talk about protesters.

there are several streets closed downtown or uptown. it is ok to get around. today, they are bringing in james taylor. they are hoping people will come downtown. they have shortened the convention by a day to try to give the local people a chance to be a part of the convention. they are having the acceptance speech. they have given away tens of thousands of community credential ticket. james taylor will perform. they are trying to make people feel part of this. not just have it be four days of speeches inside a small convention hall.

when i moved to charlotte in 1990, it was not a very appetizing downtown. now, it is quite different. a lot of people live downtown. we have opened some great museums. i think people be impressed by uptown. it is a way -- it is on a hill. >> mayor anthony fox will be a guest tomorrow. he is the youngest mayor. the population of charlotte, about 750,000. 32% increase in population over the past 10 years. the front page of your newspaper, more parades' than

protest. were you at the protests? >> i was a little bit. there were probably more police and protesters. i saw a little bit of it. there were a but of anti-war protesters. they seemed to be joined themselves. -- enjoying themselves. there was no confrontation with the police. there was an overwhelming police presence. there were more police and protesters. >> also on the front page is this item. north carolina lindsey to romney. is mitt romney ahead in north carolina? >> i think most polls have said it is even. this is a poll which the charlotte observer co-sponsored. it detected a bump for romney.

47% to 43% for romney. there is another poll of pettit at 48%-48%. 4n did a poll that had 4 *5 romney -- had 48% for romney. >> if you'd like to talk with our guest -- please allow 30 days between your calls. democratic national convention begins tomorrow. that is a live picture from inside the time warner cable arena hall in downtown charlotte or uptown charlotte where the convention will be held. the first call for tim funk.

comes from arkansas. you are on c-span. >> hi. i wanted to talk to mr. fung. i have enjoyed his comments so far. i wanted to bring something to the attention of people. it is what my mother told me when i with about five years old. it was important. she said, the republicans are for the very rich people. they stand for them. the democrats are for everybody else. the people that are just on the street. i found that to be true threat

to the years. who is voting for what and supporting what i want listeners to know, not only is it important to support the president, but to stay with the party line. they want to know, why has he not done anything? he did until the blocking came in. that is what the republicans are there for. we are dealing with some really important issues like global warming. they want to block anything to do with that. >> i think we got some good points. >> it is interesting dimension working people. one thing we did not mention is north carolina is a right to work state. there are a lot of labor leaders who are traditional allies who were not pleased.

many of them are boycotting this convention. they gave $8 million to the effort in denver. also, obama will have to answer to a lot of people about the unemployment rate. it is 9.6% in the state. it is 10% in charlotte. there is a lot of excitement. there are people who want to hear what the president plans to do about the unemployment rate. the new unemployment figures will come up friday. if they are bad, they could have some affect on his ballots in charlotte. >> next call. texas, a gorge on the republican line. george, good morning. >> thank you. you have an awesome program.

my id biased to the obama supporters is to look at the facts. they are ignoring the facts. obama said he would jump over and eight story building when we had a 8 percent unemployment, we need to give someone else a chance. he said he would take care of the economy. he has not done that. george h.w. bush he would not raise taxes and he did. re-election bid is dependent on performance. obama has not performed. so we will vote for romney, someone who will perform. if an employer promises their employee that will climb a 40- foot pole and cannot do it, there will lose their job. host: any comment? guest: you hear, it took awhile

to get into this mess and it will take awhile to get out. i think there will also say that mitt romney does not have any new ideas, that pretty much would recycle the bush program of tax cuts and cuts to regulation. i think they may be would have an argument with the caller, but i hear what he says from a lot people here, too. host: and here is the front of a paper from north carolina as the democratic national convention begins. you can see a picture here of the inside of the arena with workers polishing off some of the last minute details for the convention. kentucky is our next town, independent line.

caller: how are you? i will repeat the last caller's initial statement, thanks for c-span. i voted for obama in 2008. i am a transplant to kentucky from atlanta. i have a perspective on larger cities, the larger state versus a smaller area where i am retired and live now. i started paying attention over the last three and half years like never before in my life. one of the things i can realize is as i watched more and more c-span, i would see what is happening and what was said on the floor of the house and the senate, and then i would watch various news programs. cnn, msnbc, fox news channel.

and what was said predominately on what i guess we're calling nowadays the mainstream media, the facts of what were said in the halls of congress were not what was being recorded accurately on this media and newspapers. it was definitely a slant toward the ultra liberal. a lot of people in my family were old-time democrats. host: i am going to ask you to wrap this up and make a final comment. caller: there is a lot of misleading right now in the media. i advise people to watch a lot more c-span and see what is being said versus what is being reported.

host: and we move to virginia, democrat line. caller: how are you today? host: go ahead with your comment or question. caller: i wonder how you find hope and our political system we have callers like you just had that are clearly [unintelligible] not understanding what is being done. you have this obstruction from the senate and house republicans and they have totally taken over the system and a way to block obama, but it is really people that have blocked obama. they do not fight to find out the facts and more or try to get the real news stories. i wonder if this would be the end of america, people turning

into glenn beck and making these ultra right-wing conservative shows, getting knowledge that is totally untrue and they do not care. host: any comment? guest: i think you see one -- see people on one side of the other seeking out tv or radio or other media that will sort of confirm what they believe. a lot of conservatives tend to watch fox news. people on the other side tend to watch msnbc. i think there is a need for somebody, i guess you could call it the mainstream media, where we at least check things out and try to represent both sides. what is exciting about north carolina, right now, for example, you ask where i find hope. for much of its history, north carolina was a one-party state,

first democrats and republicans in terms of national voting. i think it has become a purple state as more and more people move in, you find seven states like virginia, florida, and north carolina -- southern states like virginia, florida, and north carolina are becoming much more liberal. the obama campaign, at his convention is kind of name. they are using it as the campaign organizing tool, trying to get as many voters involved to sort of energized them. as i told to, 48-48 is the last poll. there are not too many undecided voters in north carolina, so it could depend on who gets the people out on election day and election -- energizing them. host: when president obama 1 -- prior to that, it was jimmy carter who won in 1976? caller: yes.

no republican since dwight eisenhower has won the white house and lost north carolina. this is a must win state for mitt romney. four years ago, i think john mccain took it for granted and was surprised at the last minute. i think obama only one by 0.3%. with the high unemployment, it could be harder for him. host: here's the front page of "the charlotte observer." who owns it? guest: mcclatchy, a company out of sacramento, california. host: our republican line. caller: i want to tell you in san francisco, we had a man named jim for years who was

fabulous and such a gentleman. i think the people of north carolina must be superb. i hope your convention will be as good as the republicans because when i hear the lineup, it is the old fogeys from the democrat party. even barney frank to give is the fannie mae financial debacle, you know, when they did away with glass-steagall. but the democrats, i just think president bush -- i'm sorry, president obama has spent $29 billion for outsourcing ricky give a for cars in finland and solar power in china. i don't like the fact that he spoke to the russian communist and ask if he was reelected -- after reelected, he would do

something about star wars, so i hope the american people take these things into account and realize that romney after this convention showed us what kind of a very trustworthy and compassionate man he is, but also very knowledgeable internationally and in business and given people thousands of jobs. host: we will leave it there. mr. funk? guest: the republicans have their rapid response team in charlotte. they rented some space near the nascar hall of fame. they are supposed to be bringing in marco rubio, the governor of south carolina, and others to sort of give their version of the day's message. one thing i think he will see at this convention, as you saw in tampa, is a lot of women at

the podium. i think that is one of voting group both sides are vying for. i think the republicans are concerned about the huge gender gap. the democrats still have a larger legions of women. i think you'll see even more women at the podium in charlotte. >> to confine the rest of this online as reticulate to a parish and outside of new orleans. president obama is going to make a statement after the recovery efforts of hurricane as it. -- isaac [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012]

>> thank you. >> all right. good afternoon, everybody. i wanted to say, first of all, how proud i am to be joined by the governor, senators, the mayor of new orleans, the st. john's baptist parish president, and the sheriff. as you can see, there has been enormous devastation in st. john's parish.

that is not the only place that has been hit. we have also seen damage in other parts of louisiana and mississippi. i want to commend everybody who is here for the work they have done in making sure lives were saved, although there was tremendous property damage, people got out quickly. as you can see, folks are on the ground already clearing out the debris and making sure they are able to recover as rapidly as possible. i want to thank fema and the state and local authorities. sometimes come in the past, we have not seen the coordination that is necessary for these types of disasters. this time, we have seen it.

we made sure we had the disaster declarations happen quickly. we were not behind the eightball. we approved individual assistance for this area which means that these folks, if they suffer additional losses beyond what they are insured for, they are eligible for some help. we are going to be providing help in debris removal, in some of the of the losses that have been suffered. i want to commend the sheriff and his team. they have been working around- the-clock saving lives. some of the folks we walked by had to be saved by boats. they were in their homes, a trap. the water came in so quickly. this is an area that has not been flooded in 17 years. folks were not accustomed to the scale and scope of the

destruction. because of the great work of law enforcement, national guard, the coast guard, making shaure folks were out rapidly. no lives were lost. keep in mind, many of these folks who have been working so hard suffered losses. i have been talking to the sheriff and his wife about the fact that his wife is having to do what these families are having to do. a couple of final points. right now we are in recovery mode. that means our biggest priority is helping the people who have been displaced, making sure they have the resources they need to enroll their kids in school, make sure they are able to get to their jobs. make sure they can have the

support they need to get started. that is in the short term. i am confident that with this team on the job on the ground, that is going to happen. we have a larger issue involved. how do we anticipate these storms? how do we make sure an area like st. john's is protected when you have these disasters? the good news is the army corps levies that were built worked very well. they were done expeditiously. what i pledge is, we are going to make sure, at the federal level, we are getting on the case quickly about figuring out what happened here, what can we do to make sure it does not happen again, and expediting some of the decisions that need to be made to ensure we have the

infrastructure to protect people, property and people's lives. the final point i will make is, up one thing to know about the folks in the louisiana, they are resilient. people in mississippi, they are resilient. they know that they can bounce back. there is an enormous faith. the enormous strength. you can see it. they are already smiling and laughing and feeling confident about the future and pulling together. we heard one story about one of these homes. in and didroup came an all the work those needed to strip out the interior. they did it, not for any pay. they were not even asked. they care about the neighbors and their friends. that is what we do in the united states of america. that is what happens in the

louisiana. when disasters like this happens, we set aside whatever disagreements we may have, nobody is a democrat or republican, we are all just americans looking out for each other. i could not be prouder. thank you very much everybody. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012]

[no audio]

[no audio] [no audio]

[no audio] >> president obama in louisiana.

tomorrow he will be campaigning you can find more a c-span coverage on line, including the fema response to hurricane isaac. just go to c-span at of order. c-span will be here at the arena, usually the home of the bobcats. officials said the president and vice president will be able to fill more than 50,000 seats. earlier today on the convention floor, first a michelle obama tt the podium. she is scheduled to speak at 10:35 p.m. eastern time tomorrow. take a look here.

[no audio] >> the first lady checking out her podium where she will deliver her speech. thursday, she will be with the vice president's wife as a women's conference. it is also possible we will see betty white at this podium. politico reports that changed or is circulating a petition for the 90-year-old actress to counter clint eastwood's address at the republican convention.

delegates -- the oldest delegate born in 1914. the youngest born in 1994. a few delegates sent us their bid to greetings. >> i am from missouri and i'm here to support president obama because i feel he has the experience and the intellect that it takes to get the job done for america. >> i am from illinois. i want to cast my vote for barack obama so he can continue the work that he started four years ago. >> i m here because i am supporting a visionary inclusive america looking forward rather than back. >> i am from of vermont. i'm supporting president obama because i believe we all need to

make it successful for the future. >> imf delegate from north carolina. i'm here at the convention to cast my vote for a marriage of equality. >> hello. imf delegate from south carolina. -- in a delegate from south carolina. my main purpose is to reelect president obama because i know he cares for us. >> i am here because i expect the president to do great things. we will re-elect our president for another four years. >> you can send c-span a 15 second video. if you are tweeting, use the #dnc. check out what other viewers are saying as well.

president obama's former videographer predicts that political ads will get a shorter and talk about his new book which chronicles his experiences during the 2008 obama campaign. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome political's chief correspondent, mike allen. [applause] >> welcome to charlotte, we're so excited to have been here for the debut event in the politico hub. we had a great time in our hub in tampa, and we miraculously transported up here and we are excited to have you here. we will be doing three events a day here, several live broadcasts and at night, it turns into the politico lounge. we hope some if you will join us to celebrate. we're kicking off a daily

convention playbook breakfast. first we will have some fun with the first presidential videographer who was behind the scenes with barack obama when he went from becoming senator obama to president obama. and then we have the chairman of this convention, the l.a. mayor. we are excited to talk to the chairman. before we bring out arun, thank you to "the charlotte observer" our partners here. they have fantastic coverage in the run up to this. we are excited to be partnering with them and sharing content with them throughout the convention. also are thrilled to thank team bank of america for supporting these conversations here on

their own turf. they have supported the playbook breakfast back in d.c. and tampa, and now excited to have them here. the director of public policy will welcome us. jim, thank you for having us. >> welcome to charlotte. i want to welcome everyone on behalf of bank of america. we have over 15,000 employees working here. we are proud of our civic leadership here in charlotte. we're delighted to be cosponsoring this morning with the charlotte observer. the publisher is here. we had a great week last week in tampa. mike and the political team pull together the leading political figures and newsmakers each morning and engaged in thoughtful, substantive dialogue each morning. we're looking forward to the same thing here in charlotte this week. that is the essence of why bank

of america is involved, because the politico team takes difficult issues we're facing as a country, getting be on the slogans and 30-second sound bites, and get some thoughtful dialogue going as we really tackle some difficult issues this country is facing. we are proud to be a part of this. we welcome the politico team to charlotte. [applause] >> thank you for the welcome and your great journalism. i want to welcome arun. [applause] by the end of the night when we were pre taping his practice speech, i was the only one left. i got stuck at his gate. i do not have the podium credentials. i could not follow it all. >> the greek columns for your

idea? >> i made them myself, in fact. [laughter] >> you were there. did anyone think, this is not a good idea? >> i did not think about. i was so used to these big speeches. i was always the guy back by the port-o-potties backstage. i did not look around like, this is not my said. you know, my said is the corridors in the back of the stadium where the president is holed. that is more where i would say was where my meat and potatoes was. >> i got stuck at this date. some kid said i got stuck. >> that is probably good. the greek columns were your idea? >> i made them myself. >> you were there. did anything, this is not such a good idea. >> i did not even think about

them because i was so used of these amazing moments. i was always the guy backstage and hanging out. even the night before, i didn't really look around. mai said is all the miles of corridors. oh, that is more where i would say is where my meat and potatoes was. >> the president did an education speech in philly and you had never talked to him? >> i had not met him. i had not even interact with the campaign much except for some to say, your the only, so do not mess this up. a great day. it was a national education association and candidates were making speeches.

the president said, my teacher is a -- a sister is a teacher. hillary clinton said, my mother was a teacher. joe biden said, "i sleep with the teacher almost every night." i thought, i really hope joe biden is to be the vice- presidential nominee for senator obama. >> so did we. excellent. we have a clip here. [video clip] >> why are you filming me now? >> no matter what happens, our children still love us. that is the key. >> and the white house briefing room. >> this is a collection. [video clip] have you met john?

just don't trip. with every do, don't trip. -- whatever you do, don't trip. ok, i am not going to make a fool of myself? [laughter] >> i want to call my mom. >> leave a message. >> hi, mom. >> by name is -- please call the white house. [laughter] you see how lebron may be the best player.

>> [unintelligible] >> he lost because boston was a better team. come on, man. oh! >> i don't think he will get one in the water. >> just before i go on -- keep it up. i am proud of you. i like that. [inaudible]

can i press the button? >> press the orange one. >> good job, national security team. get back to work. >> of course that is from many, many, many hours of much less interesting, much less fun footage. that is part of what i was able to do, captured authentic backstage for trail of a man -- portrayal of a man similar off camera as on camera. >> how often does he say, "give

me some space"? >> very rarely. and easily had to beat in regard to restroom break. there were a few instances in which other people were like, "i think we should not film this." both times were not because we were worried about getting the president saying something i'm, particularly, the people in the room wanted to make sure other people would react in a way that would be honest. he is used in the filming all the time. let's say he is trying to make a point to someone, they may give less frank advise if there on my camera. i tried to keep a sense of when it was ok and wasn't o.k. to film based on that verse is the president's comfort. >> you yourself are not an aggressive documentary maker? >> i am not someone who works very hard to be anonymous or behind the scenes or a fly on the wall. i am kind of a chatterbox and loudmouth. with the soccer in coming years as a "oh, come one" which is me. i think that helps me do what i was going to do, because to be

this kind of anonymous, working, camera documentary person is one thing, to be honest and speaking with everyone in the room lets them see where i'm coming from and know what i am doing. >> how to there, to be a campaign videographer? >> from the very get go the campaign had a group together from people than in chicago. they sort it expanded it i think, they wanted -- not knowing exactly what it was going to do. i think it became apparent that documenting the campaign trail was going to be the most useful thing for a campaign, which is a little hard to hear as a guy coming from a film school arts background. >> in 2008, where were they

putting these clips? how quickly to they turn them around? >> pretty quickly. this was during the days of standard definition. we were shooting things on tape. it would take as long as the speech to up load and we could not really compete with television stations, but we started learning tricks and to get things up on youtube as fast as possible. >> you talk about how the president has a unique ability to be the same off camera that he is on, that his sort of the opposite of a ham. >> i think that is right. his very kosher. [laughter] >> this is a risky proposition.

there's no way president bachmann would have a videographer. in think, sure, let the kid follow him around. it shows the amount of trust and understanding that the president has a very unique to permit a personality and 100% the same on and off camera. people ask, "is he like that?" you can see it in the still photographs as well. and the president and first lady are touching foreheads and surrounded by secret service. that is just what you see. there are many photographers surrounding him.

>> got a good shot. >> he is able to create the sense of private space. another example was in the convention last year. we were in kansas city where the president was watching his wife make her speech. even though we were in this room full of reporters and it was not necessarily the most private moment, every time he watched her speak, he would unconsciously play with his wedding ring. we're very attuned to him and we were immediately noticing that and zoomed in on and made for a wonderful video clip. >> the other side of the coin is he is boring behind-the-scenes. he is just there. >> i think people are wanting this access. i'm not sure they know what they're asking for access to. photograph in hundreds of meetings there almost identical. when you are around for a while, you realize the things most interesting are not necessarily all the way backstage, but halfway back stage, that moment between public and private or just before a speech or in between having to greet the teacher of the year and maybe a family who has a soldier who has fallen in afghanistan.

being able to switch between those things and watch some have that emotional intelligence i think is worthy action actually is. >> why is that better than backstage? >> i think it is more telling to watch the body language of the president reading someone in the outer oval office and what that means and how they shake hands -- greeting someone in the outer oval office and what that means and how they shake hands, for something that is probably scripted to begin with. if something was easy to solve, it would not make it all the way to the president's desk. >> tell something about barack obama we do not know. >> he is an intensely curious person. i think it is one of the most useful things about backstage. he is very much like a dad or even when you know something, he wants to know one more thing

and how you know that. ferry dad-like -- very dad-like. we are in eastern europe and hosting a dinner or something and the leaders were coming in. one guy from -- i'm going to mess this up, had a name of ethnicity from another country. i said, that is interesting. why? what you mean? tell me about that. >> he has an incredible mind and wants to know and learn things. >> were you free to talk to him or was it a speak when spoken to thing? >> it depends the situation. when he is performing official duties, i will not hike up. he is very approachable on a plane. i think we worry more on our side by not wasting his time because he's so gracious with his time. i write about a funny moment where stephen colbert snack one

of his books into the library at the white house, which is a big no-no. i let him do it because i was filming i thought, this is great for the movie. i hustled down the hall and i'm like, "mr. president, stephen colbert left a library in the book if you want it." it was confusion. it was like, "what do you mean? don't we have good security?" it went back and forth before it was shut down. he was like, "go get the book, stop talking to him about the book, go back to the oval office." >> [unintelligible]

>> reggie love, former body man for the president. >> what was your vibe about him having you there? >> at first, it was tolerance. but you become work buddies. like a said, i was never totally behind the scenes. i was kind of interacting with folks. we definitely had a work friendship. >> we would love to bring you into the conversation, so signal if you have a question and we will bring you a microphone. you have been in the car. what is it like? >> i had only been in the car once. the car is exactly what you think it is. those doors are hard to close. [laughter] they got people for that. >> what else could you see? can you see the gas masks? what is it like? they are there. >> there is a wonderful video that spike jones it without war were he shows of all the gas masks and things like that. i did not see that.

it is definitely all that and more is in there. the car is a small bubble, the helicopter is a pretty small bubble. air force one is bigger. the elevator is the hardest one. he has to get in there, secret service has to get in there, immediate staff has to get in there, the video that almost makes the cut. i was a 25% you make the cut. but i am the one who wants the shot of him coming off the elevator. so it involves running up a lot of steps. this can definitely, definitely warrant injury, hazards. >> some people do not like to be on -- you are like this close, too close. did you shoot on marine one? >> yes, the best thing is not shooting inside.

you fly so close to the washington monument. let's say i rode in marine one a dozen times. each time i was trying to get that shot right. slow motion, not slow-motion. i really wanted to get it right. i'm happy to say in the archives, there's a beautiful, beautiful flyby of the washington monument. once he was asking about computers, i was trying to explain, and it was too noisy. it can be confusing. >> what about the plane? >> it is great. >> there is a but coming. >> it is a flying office. yet no excuse to not be working. i cannot upload to youtube. there is no power on the plane.

an air force one, your info communication the whole time, so there is no reason not to work. it is designed to keep the president working along with his staff. >> we have a question. yes, sir? go ahead. >> adam bell, "charlotte observer." is there anything you shot that later they said you could not use? >> i not allowed to erase anything. every scrap goes into the archives and will go into a library. more than that, i think we're try to make it more useful. video search is hard to figure out. i think if the archives can be searchable, it will be a lot more useful to historians.

>> yes, ma'am. >> the president was here in 2008 on election eve, were you with him? >> i believe that was the day the president's grandmother passed away. wow, it was sort of a -- it was a solemn day for sure. for us, it was one of those moments where the president did cry a little bit remembering her it was like, well, this is real and authentic, but is is something we will highlight? we decided not to use it. we decided to show it like we always showed any other speech, just the one had on shot. it does sort of play that thing in politics, this peculiaraity, is this too horrible to be real? >> you can tweet us questions.

>> i am with fox global. i'm curious if any of your friends of the white house communications office got involved and a little review of the book before it came out? >> no, no one had seen the book. a couple of days before it came out -- i got mine pack, so i did leave them with my white house friends, but everyone was gone. people came back from the weekend and there will have the book waiting for them. >> and you gave one to the boss? >> i gave one to the boss, whom i doubt has had a chance to read it. i did also give it to folks in

the outer wall office. i bet when they start quoting things from the book to him, he will then be like "i am going to read it real quick." he is such a gracious reader, he could polish it off in a few hours. >> [unintelligible] >> they hand them all kinds of things. >> but what was his habit on the campaign trail? >> he would be constantly reading stacks of papers, briefings, and a lot of nonfiction history. >> in the politico the book that just came out, in a story on the front page of today's "new york times," talking about the president as a competitor. everything from cards to basketball. you probably saw him this way a lot. >> he is a very competitive person. a lot of it is his athleticism, but also the way he thinks. i'm not much of an athlete. i know looking at a your thinking, "this guy can tear it up."

it is not the case. i did get a chance to play cards and games with him sometimes. it is not just that he is competitive, he is very smart competitor. he plays games smartly. he reprimanded me playing poker once because i did something that i was not sure what would happen. he was like, you're just gambling, not playing the game. it was true. it was advice that took seriously. you should be aware when you're just gambling. >> how did that reflect the way he runs the world? >> an think a lot of times, when you're on the outside and watching the debate say health care or something, you have these visions of view, the lone wolf, takes care of things and makes this great stand or all these things, and it is this narrative that is not accurate to the world. it is not how the "game" is played and results are achieved. played and results are achieved.