because of the accompanying inflation that goes along with every dollar we spend. i'm the only candidate that wants to eliminate income tax, eliminate corporate tax, abolish the i.r.s. [applause] and replace all of that with one federal consumption tax, the fair tax. i think it is the answer to our exports, it is the answer to american jobs. [applause] >> in what way way does the war on drugs impact americans? how could the fed to be reduced? is there a more efficient way to deal with this? that was submitted by jeff tanguay via facebook. >> the war on drugs has been an unbelievable tragedy.

i remember someone who came to me and his son had been sentenced on his first drug offense to 15 and a half years to a state penitentiary. on the day president clinton left the white house, he signed a presidential pardon saving cory springfield a decade in a federal penitentiary. there is someone sitting in a federal penitentiary today with a 55-year sentence for selling marijuana on three occasions because the informant said there was a gun around. not that he had used it. so a gun enhancement, mandatory gun enhancement from the judge that entered the sentence said it was an outrage. it was unjust. but 55 years.

this is the kind of human toll in this country. we don't just need to legalize marijuana, we need to end drug prohibition, just like we ended alcohol prohibition and treat drug use and abuse as a public health and education issue and get it entirely out of the criminal justice system. [cheers and applause] we have the highest incarceration rate. we have 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prison population. we have more people in prison and in jails in this country on drug offenses than western europe has in their prisons and jails on all offenses. this has to end. we the american people need to come together, right, left, it doesn't matter about partisanship. we need to demand immediately an end to this insane war on drugs. [applause]

>> virgil goode. >> i am an advocate of a balanced budget, and i would cut federal spending on the war on drugs. however, drug use is primarily a state issue, not a federal issue. but this is ven going to set well with most 6 -- with most of you. i am not for legalizing marijuana use or other drug use. if we cut back on the war on drugs, that would be a minor part of the federal budget. about $12 billion is being spent this year out of $3.8 trillion budget on the war on drugs. but i am not for funding planned parenthood. i will take that to zero. i am not for funding --

>> we're on drugs. >> i know. but i'm just pointing out how small the federal war on drugs money is in terms of the entire federal government, but i am in favor of reducing it because we have to reduce everything that's generally funded in order to get to a balanced budget. [applause] drugs. problem is related to inportation not use. that is not to discount the problems of use and abuse. 55% of americans support legalizing marijuana. why is this the case? because we are talking about it. because debates are raging at dinner tables that haven't been raging at dinner tables in the past. let's regulate it. it's on the ballot in colorado

in november. let's tax it. coloradoians have the opportunity really to change drug policy worldwide. coloradans get it. six years ago they oat voted to decriminalize marijuana on a campaign based on marijuana being safer than alcohol. i am not a hypocrite on this issue. i have drank alcohol, i have smoked marijuana. i don't drink alcohol, i don't smoke marijuana. i can tell you, in no category is marijuana more dangerous than alcohol. [applause] and yet we are arresting 1.8 million people a year in this country on drug-related crime. we have the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world. 2.3 million people. half of what we spend on law

enforcement, the court and the prisons is drug related, and to what end. look, this is not about advocating drug use. 50% of kids graduating from high school have smoked marijuana. that's an issue that belongs with families, not in the criminal justice system. [applause] >> anybody have any rebuttal? >> i have to make my statements first, and then my rebuttal. so as a medical doctor previously in clinical practice for about 25 years, i can say with a real understanding of the science of the health impact, that marijuana is it a substance that is dangerous because it's illegal. it is not illegal on account of being dangerous. because it's not dangerous at

all. [applause] it is well known that the impacts of marijuana are dangerous because of the illegal drug trade from marijuana drug prohibition. so the most important thing we can do to get rid of the health problems associated with marijuana is to legalize it. and on day one, on day one a president, if she wanted to, could entrust the d.e.a. to oh, to -- could entrust the d.e.a. to do a really radical thing. that would be to use science in determining what substances will and will not be scheduled. because marijuana is on the schedule. -- when science is used,

marijuana is off the schedule. [applause] anded same goes for -- and the same goes for hemp, which is also a substance for which there are no bad drug effects. there are no bad health and safety effects. yet there are important health benefits. marijuana should be regulated but not in a way that creates more monday applies but allows small businesses to florish. >> rocky. rebuttal. >> i don't know if it's really rebuttal. i am in total agreement that jill raised. except for those money interests that control our congress. we need to rise up as one and say legalize trillion hem p now. [applause]

>> 40,000 people in prison on drug charges. now we have over a half billion of our people in prison? i would, as president, create a presidential pardon on everyone that did not commit other crimes from our prisons who were arrested for marijuana. [applause] >> anyone else want to reput? we have six questions in all and we are only finishing the second one. >> when i was governor, a meeting started, i didn't know what to expect. they said, hey, we're here to support you. we would like to share with you a story. >> only a minute. >> to pass on to others to let others better understand it.

they said methamphetamine is really the boogeyman of drugs. people that do methamphetamine do horrible things. by the way, it falls on the poor. it is cheap, it is easy to make. so the consequences fall on the poor. if cocaine were legal, these people would be using cocaine without the negative behavioral impact. what i will tell you about cocaine, and it would be wonderful if the government told the truth, cocaine puts holes in your heart. people that use their cocaine their entire life die from a heart attack. whitney houston is the best example. >> one-minute rebuttal. [applause] >> let's be clear about my position on this. unlike gary, unlike rocky, and unlike jill, i'm not for legalizing drugs. if you want that, vote for one

of them, don't vote for me. [applause] >> we remind you, tonight's debate questions were submitted through social media. i am presenting them exactly as they were received. this question comes from greg salazar from los angeles. do you think an annual military budget of $1 trillion is absolutely necessary to keep us safe? in a broader sense, what do you think should be the role worldwide of the united states military? two minutes, virgil goode. >> as i said, if i'm elected president i will balance the budget, and part of the cuts have to be in the department of defense. we cannot do as mitt romney and paul ryan suggest increase military funding by $2 trillion over the next decade. i support a strong defense. but we need to retrench rather

than trying to be the policemen of the world. we have too many soldiers, too many troopers scattered around the world. our presence needs to be decreased around the world, not increased, and the united states should stop trying to be the overseer of the world. that will save us billions and billions of dollars. [applause] >> all right. governor johnson. >> we need to provide ourselves with a strong national defense. the operative word here is defense, not offense and not nation building. [applause] >> the biggest threat to our national security is the fact that we're bankrupt, that we're borrowing and printing money to the tune of 43 cents out of every dollar we spend. in promising to submit a balanced budget to congress in the year 2013, that would

include a 43% reduction in military spending. how does that go down. a 43% reduction in military spending takes us back to 2003 spending level. it is getting ourselves out of all the military engagements that we are currently involved in. stop with the military intervention. it is reducing the military footprint worldwide. it is troops we have stationed in japan, in south korea, and in europe. it is intelligence. it is research and development. all of these components go into a 43% reduction when it comes to the military. we have to stop our military intervention. we have to stop with the dronse drone strikes. we have to stop with a policy that has us with hundreds of billions of enemies to this country that but for these policies would not exist. when we talk about foreign aid to other country it is propping

up foreign dictators that are on our side as opposed to the other side? we pick winners and losers, and there are a whole lot of unintended consequences that go along with this. right now we are funding the syrian insurgence and they are made up of jihadists? should we not learn anything about where we funded osama bin laden? [applause] >> jill. >> i want to agree with gary and with rocky, and i guess not with virgeyill in this -- virgil in this instance, to say that a foreign policy based on brute military force and wars for oil is making us less secure not more secure. we need to bring the troops home and not the drones.

we need to put an end to the use of drones and actually lead. not to lead this development of a new arms race, but to lead in an international treaty and a convention to permanently ban the use of drones as a weapon of war and a means of spying on the american public. maws applause [applause] $5 trillion spent on the afghan and other wars. this has not made us more secure. what we are seeing is the blowback against this policy. because dropping bombs on wedding and funerals, which is what drones do with an incredibly high civilian casualty rate, that is not a good way to win the hearts and minds of people in the middle east. [applause]

we need a foreign policy based on human rights and on fighting climate change which should be the war that we are all fighting, not this war for oil. [cheers and applause] >> now on the question of military spending, again we have three more questions coming. on military spending, rocky. >> president obama warned the -- -- president eisenhower warned this country he termed it the military industrial congressional complex. for very good reason. these folks vote for massive funding for completely wasteful projects, like the f-22 that the department of defense said we are never going to use it. it is out-moded.

why would we spend billions of dollars on it? and because the contractor had other contractors or sub contractors in 44 different states, and they did it very strategically, these people, the republicans and democrats alike, voted for additional funding. that is treason against our country when our treasury -- treasure is being wasted, when we need that treas write to go -- that treasure to go to exporting and jobs, and the biggest problem facing our planet and that is climate change. we need to focus on where the real problems are, rather than those who are benefiting from this corrupt system have their stake. now, there are two fundamentals when it comes to our engagement, military engagement. i think our leaders completely are either esconsing or ignoring. read it -- have either forgotten that or are ignoring it. first, no wars of aggression. if you haven't been attacked or

you are not imminently going to be attacked, to attack is an illegal war of aggression under the united nations charter against the nuremberg -- nuremberg principle. we convicted under nurmberg for those same crimes. the decision whether to go to war is congress' alone. they have the sole prerogative. it cannot be delicated to the president as congress has so carelessly done. [applause] >> anyone want to rebut? virgil? >> rocky is correct about following the constitution. i would not be in syria unless congress makes a declaration of war. we will not stay in afghanistan if i'm elected president unless congress makes a declaration of

war. only by going through that constitutional process ensure that there -- the will of the american people is addressed when we have issues like syria, afghanistan, and iraq. [applause] >> gary, this has fobe to be rebuttal. do you want to rebut something, gary? >> i was opposed to going into iraq before we went into iraq. i did not think they had weapons of mass destruction. i felt -- thought if they had weapons of mass destruction, we have the capability to see weapons of mass destruction. if -- afghanistan, i thought that was totally warranted. we were attacked, we attacked back. i would argue after having been in afghanistan for six months,

we wiped out al-qaeda. that was 11 years ago. we should have gotten out of afghanistan 11 years ago. [applause] here we are now on iran. the larblingest demonstration after 9/11 was in iran by over one million citizens that showed up in support of the united states. and we're going to bomb iran? we're going to bomb the citizens of iran? we'll find ourselves with another 100 million enemies to this country that we wouldn't otherwise have. [applause] i think both candidates said they would not bomb iran. this is our fourth question. the question was submitted by tout. this is about the economy. let's go to the question on the video.

>> how will kids get a college education in 2030 for nearly $400,000. is college really worth it at that point? and if so, how can you deny this to everyone. >> you probably didn't hear that, but some estimates give the price of a college education at $400,000 in 2030. his question is, is college even worth if at that point? if so, should college be provided to everyone. this question should begin with governor johnson. >> first of all, as governor of new mexico, we established lottery scholarships which allowed really any graduating high school student from new mexico to go to college with those costs paid. so woths what's the federal role, though, when it comes to education, and what's the primary reason in this country why college division tuition is so high? well, it is because of guaranteed government student loans that because of guaranteed government student

loans, no one has the excuse for not going to education. and so because of that, institutions of higher learning, colleges and universities are immune from pricing that if kids would take a harder look at it, gee, i don't think i can afford $15,000 a semester, i think i will just sit this one out. when that happens en masse, i guarantee you, the cost of college tuition will drop dramatically. today that doesn't exist. i can't afford $15,000, yet friends and family will point and say, look, you can get a guaranteed government student loan. that is another one of government's unintended consequences that have college tuition at such a high rate. [applause] >> jill. >> i think it is time to make public higher education free as

it should be. [cheers and applause] we have done this before when our troops came home from the second world war. we provided free higher education through the g.i. bill. and we know that it pays for itself. for every dwhrar that we invested, $7 was returned in investments into the economy including more than enough revenue to cover the full cost of those tuition payments. [applause] this is something throughout the 20th century. throughout the 20th century, we provided a high school education for free to our younger generation. why? because it was essential for economic security. and we owe it to our younger

generation it to give them a secured start into their economic rives. -- economic lives. in the 21st century a high school degree won't cut it. you need a college degree in order to have economic security. so it is only right that we should now be providing that for free. [applause] >> and while we're at it, it is time to, instead of bail out wall street, which is what the fed is doing now, with qe-3, $40 billion a month to bail out wall street banks again, instead let's bail out the students and do something really useful with that bail out. [cheers and applause] >> on the question of college, rocky. >> thank you. our forebearers set up a system in this country where everyone would have a free secondary education.

that may have been enough then. but for our nation to regain its global competitive edge, we must provide higher education. either college education or technical education. but it is for the future of our country and to meet the ideal in this nation of equality of opportunity that we should provide a free and equal ed calingse indicational opportunity in college -- in college, and do the right thing for our young people. this is not a radical idea. it is done in in many parts of the world, and it pays a huge dividend. as to those dents students who are saddled with enormous tuition debt, it has reached over $1 trillion, more than the entire credit card debt in this country? what does congress do?

or their fat cat contribute tores? they made student debt nondischargeable in bankruptcy. so you can charge a mazerati on your credit card, but if someone ran out and did what they could to get a decent education can't get a new start. so we need to demand congress to allow discharge yanltability in bankruptcy of student debt now. [cheers and applause] >> you might not get what you want to hear from me, but you will get straight talk. we can't afford more federally subsidized student loans and pell grants. i wish i could say we will give you more. a debt of $16 trillion is bearing down on us. and as governor johnson said,

we could well be like germany after world war i. i do not support this, and the person that asked the question on the internet is not going to like it, but we can't afford more pell grants and federally subsidized student loans. we have to balance the budget and decline the debt. [applause] >> anybody have a rebuttal? >> free comes with a cost. [applause] free, very simply is spending more money than what you take in. free is accumulating more than the $16 trillion in debt that we currently have. free has gotten us to the point where we are going to experience a monetary collapse in this country due to the fact that we continue to borrow and

print more money than we take in. free, the federal reserve system in this tun country, the treasury prints money. they give it to the federal reserve. the federal reserve gives it to the bank at zero percent. do they give that to you or i? no. you p -- with no risk whatsoever. they buy of treasurys in a closed loop. this is what has to stop in this country is the notion of "free"" applause there needs to be a level playing field for [applause] >> any other rebuttals? >> i disagree with both of them on this. we cannot afford not to provide a great education and equality of opportunity for all our young people and in this country. we need to insist on prosperity, not austerity.

and in a recession, it is not time for these massive spending cuts as called for by polls simpson and both of the people running for president with the major parties. we need to get behind our workers and young people and provide but is going to build this nation in the future -- class education. >> jill. rebuttal, jill. >> i am agreeing with rocky here. we cannot afford not to educate our students. our young degeneration is the greatest resource we have. and their participation in our economy is not just good for them, it is good for all of us. every generation, the economy needs to be rerouted by fresh -- rebooted a fresh imagination and the genius of a new generation. that does not happen when a

noneration is locked into being we need to bail them out and create free public higher education. [applause] >> a rebuttal. >> barack obama and>> mitt romney in the last debate said he is for expanding student loans and pell grants for you have four candidates you can look to it that is a big issue. >> civil-rights. it was submitted via social media and is being presented exactly as sent to us. the question comes from melissa on twitter. this go around me begin with jill. >> where do you stand on the ability to detained americans indefinitely and why?

>> it is an outrage that 1021 ndaa was ever passed to start with. [applause] it is an incredible betrayal of our civil liberties that the president's has assumed dictatorial rights to put us in prison and his -- at his pleasure without charge or without trial. this is not allowable and is a basic offense against the very foundation of american liberty. it should be repealed. [applause] we must also repeal the president's interpretation of the enforcement act in 2001. the military used at that said -- youth act that said assassinations are in the power

of this president. we need to put an end to assassination. an end to the fisa act which retroactively legalized of more to the wiretapping against legal u.s. [applause] we need to repeal the patriot act and we need to stop the persecution of whistle-blowers who blow the whistle on crimes by our government. [applause] >> ten second spirit >> benjamin franklin said if we sacrifice our liberty for security, we will wind up losing both. so let's take back our liberty. that is the foundation of true security. [applause] >> rocky, detaining americans

indefinitely. >> i went to law school because i believe as deeply as one can believe it until the rule of law. and justice. the fact that our system of justice can provide for everyone. what we have seen through the bush years and now with president obama has been so absolutely subversive and anti- american. there has been no more anti american act in our history than the ndaa. president obama, in 2009, he asked for the power to indefinitely detained people without charges, without a trial, without legal assistance, and without the right to habeas corpus. we are on the road toward totalitarianism and that is not an exaggeration. [applause]

this one person -- if one person can be determined against whom and under what conditions law passed by congress and our constitution are going to be applied, that spells tyranny. it is the very definition of tyranny. what happened when president obama came into office? he said about our international treaties and our own domestic laws, absolutely forbidding torture, let's forget about those war crimes and move forward and not move backward. what about those who committed countless federal felonies by illegally spied on american citizens? he said let's forget about it. he did the same thing when he was in the united states senate after he promised opposite to everybody before he got the democratic nomination. he voted for retroactive immunity for the telecom companies to participated in the illegal surveillance program.

that shows the utter disregard to the rule of law. we need to demand more of our leaders. [applause] >> virgil good. >> if i were president, i would have vetoed ndaa. [applause] simple? governor terry >> because, larry, this is pitching oneself to vote for me. so i will try to take advantage of shamelessly pitching myself here. i would veto the act allowing for you and i as u.s. citizens to be arrested and detained without a charge. what is really significant, last december, the aclu can now with the report card on all the presidential candidates. i apologize for the three others on states that were not in this report card.

aclu, take your dedicated to civil liberties and the constitution. a group dedicated to the first 10 amendments of the constitution. this is really important. 24 liberty torches' with the convicts corporate mitt romney and rick santorum had zero the report is out of 24. newt gingrich had four liberty toure just out of 24. barack obama had 16 liberty torch's out of 24. my hero, ron paul, 18 liberty torch's out of 24. and gary johnson had 21 out of 24. [applause] >> okay. [laughter] anybody with a rebuttal? i guess you all agree on that. we go to question no. six.

we will, by the way, have a discussion on this and two- minute closing comments. we will start with a rocky. it was selected by my editorial team. but in the post to facebook, he asks we start with a rocky. if you had the opportunity to write one constitutional amendment with an absolute guarantee it would be approved by congress and then following that, what would you a man? >> i have already written it -- please take a look at our website -- it is the new equal rights amendment promising that equal rights under law and will

never be a bridge on account of gender or sexual orientation. [applause] it is time we had federal protection for members of our community lgbt and prohibit discrimination on account of gender. that amendment failed by not getting the approval only three states in this country. it is high time we revived and had sexual orientation and gender identification and make that statement as a nation that we will never allow discrimination on those grounds of again. [applause] >> do you think that would pass today? >> i think it would pass if the people made it clear that we insist upon and there will be a heavy political price paid by anyone in congress or in the white house who opposes it. it is really up to us.

major social movements in this country always start at the grass-roots level. we are the leaders. let's make them follow us. [applause] >> virgil, how would you amend the constitution? >> term limits. [applause] term limits,dopt you will continue to have a congress that is always or about the next election instead of what is best for the country. let me say this -- if we could get it through congress, you might have to grandfather all the members of congress out right now which i would not want to do but you might have to. i am for term limits between six years and 12 years. i don't care what it is, it would enhance washington so much because it is a constant worry

about the next election. where is the next fund raiser going to be? who are the pacs going to be giving me money? you watched a chicago television. it is constant advertising and the pacs are the biggest contributors. if we could get it through the house and the senate, it would go like a night after a hot bader of the state legislatures, term limits. [applause] >> as a follow-up, do you think they would vote themselves out of office? >> no, you would probably have to grandfathered those and i think you'd get it through if you could grandfather it and let it start by giving them 12 more years and that would get it through. >> governor, what is your constitutional amendment? >> term limits. the root of all evil is

politicians that beat their chests and in the name of electing me or re-elect me, we will end the war on terror, we will take care of the illegal immigrant, we'll take care of health care, we will have free education for everybody, we will and the drug wars -- you name it, elect me, re-elect me, i will save the world. congress gets elected. i hear congressional ads running all the time. we need to balance the federal budget and the next ad that runs is here is the bacon i brought home to my state amounting to billions of dollars and if you want the bacon to be -- to continue to be brought home, but for me. i am living proof that term limits work. i really enjoyed being governor of new mexico. i really enjoyed it but i knew that i was term limited. i had eight years. i pushed the envelope -- would like to have pushed the envelope if i had more time?

i don't think i did. i'd like a push to just far enough to get reelected and i got reelected in a state that was two-one democrat but i got reelected so this is all about doing the right thing. i do not want to leave office thinking should have, could have, would have. term limits really is the silver bullet. politicians would get elected and do the right thing as opposed to whatever it takes to get elected and reelected. [applause] >> jil, how would to amend the constitution? >> my concern is that even with term limits, but unfortunately, corporations and big money can still buy what they want and are still buying our candidates. [applause] they get them into office anyhow whether it is for four years or 80 years. i want to pass the amendment

that will clarify that money is not speech and corporations are not people. [applause] by stealing our rights of personhood, corporations have done exactly that. they have gotten the rights of personhood and taken away our rights of personhood. corporations can fight and stop and blocked laws that we need to protect our air and water and climate and worker safety and public health and campaign finance. these are not constitutional issues that belong to corporations. these are political questions that should be decided by communities for the political and legislative process.

should not be precluded from forming along as we decide we need because corporations say that our forming such laws it and protecting ourselves against the constitution. that is a violation of what the writers of the constitution intended. i will support that amendment to clarify and get our constitutional rights back from the corporations that have seized them. [applause] >> this has been a very lively evening. he will each have two minutes to close, is that correct? >> that's correct. >we will go next in line to virgil. >> this is two minutes closing statements. say anything you like. >> again, thanks to free and

equal and thanks to larry king, thanks to gary, rocky, and jill. [applause] open up the process, give opportunities to americans and we will have a better and greater country. four things we have to do right away -- balance the budget now, not 10 years down the road. jobs in america for american citizens first -- i am the only candidate that has advocated a near complete moratorium on green card foreign worker admissions into this country until unemployment is under 5%. it makes no sense to bring in so many foreign workers when we need jobs in america for u.s. citizens first. [applause] thirdly, i agree with jill on super pacs defining i don't

think -- i think it can be done with legislation. want to see political action committees eliminated. individual donations of like a mouth full transparency, and we need to end of the super pacs that are about controlling federal elections. it is time for grass-roots candidates like virgil goode to be a candidate and he will work for term limits as well. [applause] >> governor? >> i would not be standing here before you right now if i did not think i could do a really good job as president of the united states. i am basing that on the resume that i have. i have been an opera are my entire life. i started a one-man handyman business when i was a junior in

college and for that business to employ over 1000 people in albuquerque. it is amazing what can happen when you do what you say you will do and when you show up on time. it is just amazing. i sold that business in 1999. nobody lost their jobs, business is doing better than ever. as governor of new mexico, i ran completely outside the political system and got elected republican governor in a state that was two-one democrat and made a name for myself vetoing legislation. i may have vetoed more legislation than the other 49 governors in the country combined. i vetoed 750 bills, i have thousands of line item vetoes that made a difference when the kings to billions of dollars and made a difference when it came to laws that would told you or i. what we could or could not do in the bedroom. with regard to immigration, i think that is a hot-button issue. it highlights the differences between me and everybody else.

let's start off with the premise that immigration is really a good thing. let's make it as easy as possible for somebody to want to come into this country and work to get a work of the set. not a green card, not citizenship, but a work visa so applicable taxes would get paid and we would have no criminals working in this country. we hear about wasted a vote right now. wasting your vote is voting for somebody that you don't believe them. that is wasting your vote. [applause] i am asking everybody here, everybody watching this nationwide, to waste your vote on may -- both for me, gary johnson. i guarantee you that nobody will regret me as the next president of united states. you will find somebody that will wake up every single day and take on the debates and discussions that need to be happening in this country and

are not happening today because of a lack of leadership. [applause] >> thank you, governor. jill, two minutes. >> there is a famous saying from alice walker -- the biggest way people give up power is by not knowing we have to start with. [applause] in fact, there are 90 million voters who are not coming out to vote in this election. that is one out of every two voters. is twice as many as the number who will come out for barack obama and twice as many who will come out for mitt romney. those are voters who are saying no to politics as usual and saying no to the democratic and republican party. imagine if we got out the word to those 90 million voters that they actually have a variety of

choices and voices in this election. i want to focus especially on those 36 million students and young people and recent graduates who are effectively indentured servants because of the high unemployment rate and the draconian unforgiving loans that have been customized especially for students lacking any consumer protection. if those students decided to stand up and go to the polls and come out and vote for free public higher education, for ending student debt, for bailing out the students and breaking up the banks instead of the other way around, which is what they are doing, we could turn politics in this country on its head on november 6. i encourage you to go to my web site and get the word out. there is a choice in this election to take back our democracy, to create jobs for everyone through a free new deal

that will put an end to climate change and make war for oil obsolete. can do this now by standing up and making it so. [applause] >> finally, rocky anderson. >> if there had been a candidate included in the obama-romney debate that challenged our plutocracy, our government that has run by and for the benefit of monstrous corporations rather than in the interest of the people of this country. we know the republican democrats have some differences but both of them have morphed into an anti-democratic force that has betrayed basic human and civil rights. we know both of these major candidates have been bought and paid for. that is why neither of them stands for health care for all.

that is why neither of them ever talk about breaking the stranglehold the military- industrial complex has on our government. that is why neither of them talk about providing the essential leadership on the climate crisis, the greatest tragedy facing births in habitants. [applause] obama and romney have refused to discuss -- discuss the corrupting influence of money flowing from wall street banks from the insurance companies, a pharmaceutical industry, the fossil fuel industry or military contractors because they are the recipients of that corrupting money. neither of these dominant party candidates will have called for federal protection for marriage equality. . there have called an end to the insane war on drugs or the implementation of a wpa-like

initiative that would hire millions of workers. thank you for providing this opportunity to present democratic solutions and the public interest on which we can all work together far beyond this election. [applause] >> first of all, as a moderator and host for 55 years, i have always believed in free speech and the right of people to throw their hat into the ring and for the right of people to be hurt - heqaard. i introduced ross perot and got to hear his thoughts and john anderson before that in illinois. ralph nader and others so come forward to go to the battle. you are the don quixotes in a way and the windmills' have a

way of stopping and we have a way of saluting you just to get into the fray so i thank you for your efforts, all you have done. i want to salute cristina and what she does. [applause] >> thank you. >> how did free and equal start? >> it came from my dad. jim tobin ran for governor back in 1998. today is his birthday so happy birthday, dad. this is my legacy. we are in non-partisan organization igniting the grass roots and bring the power back to the people. [applause] >> christianne has and closing remarks and i want to tag gary johnson, bill stein, and virgil

goode, and rocky anderson. thank you to the audience as well. [applause] outlook turned over to christina tobin for the close. >> i want to thank larry king for being a dream come true. [applause] my executive producer and producer and the whole crew people, thank you to them and all of our supporters out there and the candidates and a week, the people. i have good news for you -- how many people enjoyed this debate tonight? [applause]

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go to creative things like this and we are doing big things after the election. we are holding a debate next tuesday in washington, d.c., 9:00 p.m. eastern time. [applause] and thanks to one of our sponsors, rob ritchie. we will implement instant run off voting and you can go on line to vote for the candidate you want. you have 24 hours to votes to go on line and go home today to vote and on thursday morning, we will announce the two candidates with the most votes will be in washington, d.c. to debate on international issues. please, but tonight, free and equal.org. [applause]

thank you, larry. >> thank you all very much in a great pleasure to be with you and i love coming to chicago. thank you very much. >> we, the people. >> good night, everybody. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> several live events to tell you about our other networks today. the u.s. chamber of commerce holds -- the u.s. chamber of commerce post a legal reform summit at 10:50 a.m.. on 6:00 p.m. 3 -- at 6:00 p.m., on c-span 3, there's a debate on chinese policy. now through election day, what

our coverage on the presidential candidates. first key governor races from around the country in a few moments, today's headlines and calls live on "washington journal." at 10:30 eastern, a news briefing with defense secretary leon panetta. we will bring you a couple of political events this afternoon including gop vice presidential candidate paul ryan campaigning in cleveland state university to talk about the economy and job creation at 2:20 p.m. eastern. just before 5:00 p.m., you can see president obama's rally in denver, one of three campaign events for the president today. he will also be in iowa and nevada. in about 45 minutes, we will talk about the african-american vote with the deputy editor of vote with the deputy editor of th