white house on friday to meet with president obama about fiscal issues. in a few moments bono on social enterprises. the upcoming debate on the so-called fiscal cliff is will be covered on washington journal. several live events to tell you about this morning, the new america foundation will discuss how going over the so-called fiscal cliff will affect medicare and social security. that's at 9:00 a.m. eastern. at 0k a.m. a brookings institution panel looks at the link in al qaeda influence in yemen.

in an effort to keep it from spreading to the peninsula. >> i enjoy watching "book tv" and the rebroadcast of various television news programs and c-span provides news coverage without the sound bites and editing you see in other programs and let's me make up my own mind about what's going on. c-span is a great way of getting an unfiltered view of the day's events. >> derek hills watches c-span. created by america's cable companies brought to you as a public service from your cable television providesers. >> music actist bono was at new york to talk about social enterprises. he's co-founder of the campaign

that takes a portion of sales from certain consumer goods and donates the noun fight diseases in after can a. [applause] >> thank you, very much. >> thank you, brian. in an area where this is not equality is not always on tap. and the -- you heard that every school kid in ireland will have access to free music lessons if they need them. so brian's been helping us out with that along with loretta and the american ireland fund. thanks of course especially to

president joya who has made me feel so welcome here and to dean of the mcdonough school of business and to j.t. right there who is learning the cords of sunday, bloody sunday instead of doing his homework. that's president's son. [applause] >> all right, j.t. and amu menam. you know, look at that. this is going to -- this is the spirit. and that is going to change the world. you have it in here in this room. you can feel it. and what a room it is, by the way. wow. i mean youtube has play -- i mean u 2 has played some nice halls. i don't know if this is a lectern or a pulpit, but i feel oddly comfortable. it's a bit of a worry, isn't

it? so welcome to pop culture studies. 101, please take out your notebooks. today we're going to discuss why rock stars should never ever be given microphones at institutions of higher learning. you will receive no credits for taking this class. i'll even -- not even street credits. it's too late for that. i will be dropping in odds of the cultural reference so you know where your generation is at. i do not. i am not sure where i am at. and the first exstentional question of this class will be what am i doing in healy hall? i could be down having my third pint at the tombs. [applause] pop culture references? rock star does research. and i heard. i heard that election -- i was

quite messy on the pint front. isn't it amazing how three points a can make everything seem like victory. but four or five and you just know you're about to taste defeat. anyway, congratulations are in order, you know, not just for turning out in record numbers. and forforgetting politics for a moment but electing an extraordinary man as president. i think you have to say that no matter your political tradition. [applause] >> but also, you are finally free from the tierney of negative advertising. from both sides. [applause] >> those attack ads. could you bear anymore of it by the end? could you imagine what it would be like if we did this all the time? attack ads about tv shows,

rival smartphone companies. college admissions. hello. we're georgetown and we approve this message. let me say a few words about some other fine schools you might be considering. u.v.a. thomas jefferson. what have they done to you? syracuse. a school whose mascot is a fruit. [applause] >> duke! hold it. duke, a school that worships the devil. [laughter] >> georgetown. you're -- you remember the other guy? everyone knows god is catholic, right? two words. frank sinatra. that proves it. [laughter]

it's ok. anyway, i've been hanging out with politicians more than i should admit, but i guess i don't really get these ads and i don't really understand politics in that form, actually. i'd like to hear attack ads on things worth attacking. if there was an attacked a on malaria, i'd get that, because 3 million people die every day mostly children. i get that. choose your enemies carefully, because they define you. make sure they are interesting enough because trust me, you're going to spend a lot of time in their company, so let's pick a worthwhile enemy, shall we? and how about the world's potential. i would suggest to you the biggest obstacle in the way is extreme poverty. sport so extreme it brute

lieses and vandalizes human dignity. i laughs at the concept of equality and doubts how far we have traveled in our journey of equality. a journey that began with taking on slavery and will not end until misery and deprivation are in the stocks. abolition. civil rights workers and human rights activists. social momentums have always been powerful. but the subject of my speech tonight is going to point out what is the transformative element of this moment and that generation and if chance that you have to rid the world of the obscenity of extreme poverty. and wouldn't that be a hell of a way to start the 21st century? now the history department might disagree with me and i'll admit i only lasted a few weeks

in college. but i don't believe that the 21st century start in the year 2000 on january 1. for large parts of the world i think it started in 2011 with the upheaval of the arab spring. what happened in egypt was that the pyramid, the traditional model of power got i inverted. the people at the top got up ended and the base had its say. now the arab spring is ongoing. it's messy and dangerous and dangerously wrong in some geographies but what i am talking about is bigger than egypt or anything else. it's a massive shift and one of those moments that in 100 years the real historianses like the ones at georgetown write about its phenomenon in the history books. the base of the pyramid. the 99% is taking more criminal control. the institutions that! always governed our lives,

church, state, main stream media and the music industry are getting tested and people are holding them to account, us to account, demanding that they be more open, more responsive, more effective, or else. here in the u.s., you have had the tea party hammering big government and had the -- do the same to jolly backers on wall street and social medias are competing and we have to hope the more enlightened ones are winning the day. social movements like the one campaign. 3.2 million people at last count. asking the world to pay attention to the least amongst us. the very poorist of the world's poor and the many things we can do to help them, and as i'll describe, we'll see things are happening in the developing world. and but think about this

particular moment. not just facebook and the heat of taxpayer roar your square, but the peace across the world of mobile phones. across the parched lands of the sahel and congo, technology is transforming things. everything is speeding up. everything is opening up. now, if i can talk about something i actually know about for a moment. this feeling reminds me a little bit, maybe more than a little bit of the arrival of punk rock in the mid 1970's. you see, the clash were the very base of the rock and roll pyramid and overnight gave the finger to the dreadful business, the lurgy at the time that was at the top of the pyramid. it was called progressive rock. epic lyrics, no hooks, no --

great reviews. [laughter] punk bands made no reference of being worthy of the audience. if you want to play, great, grab a guitar and you're in. the clash were like a public service announcement with guitars, and they gave youtube the idea that social activism could make for a very musical riot. so i'd just like to point out that none of your professors, not a single one, not ever has ever drawn or is likely to draw the connection between the arab spring and the clash. just a little intermission. [applause] and ok. sharpen your pencils. i don't need to lecture you

about change. change is the air you breathe. you are it. i think change is your expectation. but what might it mean for you when the pyramid and a whole lot else gets turned on its head? what a huge haunt the affords you if you're willing to sees it. because there's million -- willing to seize it. because you have got a lot of levers in your hand, and when we press them together at the same time that's when a lot of things really start happening. but first let me hit the brakes before some of you do, and let's acknowledge that it's brutal out there. it's brutal out there. and by "there" i mean, here. right here in america. economy is still in rough

shape, and that slashing sound you hear is a big pair of scissors bearing down on the federal budget. safety aid cuts and all this coming if we drive over this fiscal cliff, so-called. and cuts, they hurt. somebody bleeds. the aid cut alone would mean that nearly 275,000 people won't get aids treatment they need resulting in yet over 60,000 deaths. $250,000 more children become aids orphans. real people. real bleeding. so that's why the you hear us on the one count saying cuts shouldn't cost lives. it can cost the lives of the poorest of the poor. it shouldn't be a hard case to make, but it is right now in the halls of congress, senate.

maybe even here in healy hall. but i put it to you, we must not let this economic recession become a moral recession. that would be double cruelty. [applause] you know, it doesn't just take away your chances here at home, this recession. but it might take away your generation's shot at greatness in the wider world. the generation before you outlawed the idea of the color of your skin decided whether you could vote or challenged the idea that your sex could decide your future. well, this generation has the opportunity to challenge the absurdty of where you live

deciding whether or not you live. the most vivid example of this for me was a clinic in can a gally in rwanda? 2003, l -- long queues of far too many skinny men and women, courageous enough to take an h.i.v. test, the nurses knowing that a diagnosis was death sentence. as there were no h.i.v. drugs in that clinic or any other in rwanda for that matter. looking into the eyes of hopelessness, i was surprised to find no anger. no rage. just a strange acquiesce ennis, not so the nurses. the nurses who knew this wasn't a killer disease in europe or

america had a very different look in their eyes. fast forward five years. same clinic. whole different scenario. nurses beaming with job satisfaction. these death camps had become birth camps. maternal clinics which is what they were supposed to be in the first place. not just city but the whole country who understood the united states had deep respect for their lives. and this was not the old paternalism, this was partnership, because without it, -- partnership, that is -- without that partnership, rwanda would not have managed to get life-saving aids drugs to 91% of the people who needed them. good leadership. as it happens. with problems in rwanda, other fronts, but with this, they got the aids drugs by people provided by the united states.

it's a moving story. and we are moved by such moving events. i'm probably here because of such events. but i tell you this. in the one campaign ours is not a soft focal lens. with try to keep our -- cold. welcome the evidence-based activists. can you believe that? the dry necessary of that term. i'm proud of the dry necessary. -- the dryness. evidence-based activism. yours truly. and i'm here to tell you that your heart is not most important thing. it helpst. but your heart is not going to solve these problems. if your heart hasn't found a rhyme with your head, we're not getting anywhere. it's not fires or -- it's justice. that's what inflames us. and justice is a higher, tougher standard. it's hard work. not going to soft petal it. we meet sometimes about

marketing. marketing. people are looking for clear, simple melody lines, you know? just a dollar, you can safe a life. just an hour of your day just -- it's crap. in truth, if you want to turn world right-side up, it's not going to take an hour or a minute or a day. it's going to take your whole life. and i'm going to make a bid for that. see. so that was the brakes. now for the gas. and for me where it all started -- it all starts where humanity starts and where our humanity is needed now. it's after cafment i mean, you should ask why should you listen to me talking about after can a? desmond tuten is much funnier.

but he is much busier, ha, after can a has been an -- africa has been an extraordinary adventure for me. wild, magnificent. maddening sometimes, but i realized one day i had been working for nelson mandela and archbishop desmond tutu for almost the large part of my adult life from the fight against hunger to the fight for human rights. rights to be like a human. nelson mandela and a bishop desmond tutu, particularly tutu, because he calls in the big guns. on the rare occasion they tried to turn him down, he told me he will personally see to it that i won't get into heaven.

[laughter] >> and i think he might have that kind of pull. but even if it weren't for them, i think i would have felt the foul africa, because ireland, maybe? some irish friends there, brent and andrea? maybe -- very good. ireland has a very living memory of family in. and coming out from under colonialization or maybe it's just because after can a is the future and edge is from the future. [laughter] sorry. well, you know, we're all interested in the future and the world we look like for the kids. people say china is the future, but if you ask the chinese, they are all headed to africa. the largest -- of recent times is from china to africa. by 2050 africa's population is going to be twice sides of

china. it's going to be big and young. 60% of africa's population is 25 and under. they are the catalyst of change and you can see the impact in many ways. for example, 14 of the poorest countries which didn't benefit from the last decades -- achieved the following. extreme poverty on track to be had by 2015, child mortality already halved and school enrollment doubled and -- you want data? i got data. [applause] we used to talk about asian tigers. and actually for a minute we were talking about a celtic one. [laughter]

>> he was nice. but this is not an african tiger. this is a lion. this is a pride of lions. and lots of them are roaring. some of them are not. some are in a bad mood. injured, licking their wounds. we all know a wounded lion is a dangerous thing. take malee, traced the origin of the blues and therefore rock & roll to mali. i was just there for the festival in the desert. and the dunes outside of timbuktu. and it's -- by the way. really awesome. a month after we left, al qaeda, known regionally as ensardin, they took over the whole of north mali. and it's about the size of france.

and now the hotel we stayed in is a sharya tribune, and music is now against the law. i mean, they put you into prison for plague music. you get beaten for playing the blues. you get beaten to death on occasion. for playing the blues. and mali is is a case study for that whole vast screlt of sand and savannah called a sahel -- sahell, which includes sudan and nigeria which is an enormous country. and in this geography, you get to see up close what we call the three extremes. and it's an unholy trio of extreme poverty, extreme

climate and extreme ideology. very dangerous the holy trio. stronger than any chain and harder to break. so some of africa's rising -- some of africa is rising and some is stuck but the question is whether the rising will pull the other up or whether the one will weigh the other down? the stakes here aren't just about them. imagine for a second this last recession, but without the economic growth for china and india. without the hundreds of millions of newly minted middle class folks. think about the last five years. rock star preaches capitalism wow. sometimes i hear myself, i just can't believe it. but commerce is real.

that's what you're about here. it's real. aids is just a stopgap. commerce, -- takes more people out than aids. we need africa to become an economic power house. not just in their interest. it's in ours. it's in you are a -- your national interests in particular. we want to see the region fulfill its potential. so secure the -- queue up the drumroll -- you can if you like. enter our pro tag insist. enter the most powerful force for change on the continent. enter the strongest, loudest,

clearest voice for progress. enter -- the nerd. [applause] >> yes. yes. ha ha, i did say the nerd. because it is the nerds, the floverts, the programmers that are changing the game not only here in america but in other places like africa. africa is the second largest mobile market after asia. this is the era of the afro nerd. what are these up to? they are up ending the pyramid. you know about the role it played in the arab spring. i recently met -- whale goenen -- i'm sure you know him. he worked in google and set up one of the facebook groups behind the terrier square thing

and got flown jail for it and was at the founders -- and how he doesn't -- the power of individuals and the power of officialals. so according to -- turbocharged. social movements. this is element i'm telling you that downeys your generation, and it works on lots of surfaces. for example, it's definitely true that the biggest killer of them all, bigger than malaria, bigger than aids. bigger than t.b., probably bigger than all three combined, the disease that kills the most people in the world, and the world is poor -- is corruption. but we have the vaccine. it's it's called daylight, sun light, information, information

is increasing transparency. now there may be some downside to this like the fact that i'm on holiday with my kids and wife and a picture of my kids' ars burned turns up on a tabloid. -- but the up-side is if someone is up to no good in business or government, it's getting harder and harder for them to hide it. this is true north as well as south of the equator. isn't it extraordinary that the two parties who are the most important in the transaction that we call development assistance, i.e., aid. the two most important parties, the taxpayer who give the money and the people who benefit from the money are the two people who know the least about what the two operators about.

that's mad. and it's going to change. the biggest argument we always hear about developing system sincere aid which remember is a tiny fraction, less than 1% of the budget. it's that it's efficient. bureaucracy gets in the way. klepto crats run off with it. but now everyone can see what's happening. the trajectory of technology is more information. african citizens are hold their governments and companies to account and in uganda they are demolishing elections with -- and they are using i paidabribe.com. then there's another one called -- that literally means "yes we can" in swa hily.

anyway, they are hoping up -- opening up the books on spending and even starting to transform the -- industries. oil and mining. this is big, because there's a lot of wealth in natural resources. down to the ground these developing countries, and this open data can help get that wealth aboveground to benefit the people who live over it. anyway, all of this i'm describing is a start and or mentioning pricing information, but here's the catch. and it's an obvious one. technology doesn't accomplish this on its own. you can't just drop a cell phone in the desert and create an oasis. there's no a.p. for that yet. -- there's no a.p.p. for that yet. it's human citizens, numbering in the unless and -- the human

element that got us to a moment where an extra 50 million african children are going to school today, because people in america and other countries same goes with the 6.2 million africans now getting life-saving aids drugs because people in the u.s. were willing to stand up and shoud shout and pay for that. those and other victories took not just phones in the hands but i -- like georgetown. that's really what moves the dial, social movement and enterprise, because when people get busy and get out there, real change happens. global change. outside pressure. inside movement. it's the story of one where a social enterprise like red, the idea of you haven't time to put

on the marching boots and -- [laughter] >> she rocks, runs the show. be thank you idea that there's a movement out there when myself or bill gates is lobbying a president or prime minister to kee get them to keep their promise to the poor, that politician is hearing it from thousands, hundreds of thousands of people who agree with us. and it's harder to ignore them than it is to ignored me. as persuasive as i think i am. picking a fight with one, he tried to block an important bill and said on the -- he is bombarded by emails and petitions and then a really dirty trick. they were waiting for him when

he came out of his church on sunday. he threw his hands up in the air. i had no idea you people felt so strongly. i am so sorry. and i support the bill. that's what we do. and then of course there's a politicians that you don't have to lobby. i just want to stand up and put a major shout out for leader nancy pelosi and norm poland and patrick leahy. all of whom -- [applause] >> all of whom -- [applause] not just great leadership. real, deep personal commitments. and we shouldn't just thank them. we should shout their names across the land. and i actually, i do not -- i can't even consider the number of lives that have been

transformed and saved by these people. and it must be millions. and people are alive because these people exist. gene sperling is here tonight. these people are heroes to me. it's a critic duty with the global citizen in mind. and you know if george bush was here. and i know his daughter, barbra is here, i would get matt dame on the kiss him on the lips. and i would give him a more sort of irish, macho sort of handshake thing. and you know, it's incredible. it's incredible what -- you know george bush, president bush's name is in the history books. it's on the forward. raised health crisis in 600 years, both sides working. if bill clinton was here at his

alma mater. well, i'd just get him to make the speech. i'd get the secretary of explaining tough. -- explaining stuff, because he is just more of a rock star than i can ever be. [impersonating bill clinton impersonating bono] i just want to thank bono here. i want to thank bono for stepping away from the microphone. i know he can't rhyme but i'm so glad he can fall back on adding and subtracting. as you know, i mean the one campaign -- it might be the one thing all of us can agree on. [applause] >> dude. [laughter] >> and all of this happens without social media. can you imagine? can you imagine what you can accomplish turbocharged? the power of these two is the

power of technology, that leverage they give us if we're willing to use it. i think we are. i know we are. i know you are. whether you join one or buy red or join on n.g.o. that we work alongside. we need to engage in this fight. it's the defining struggle of our age. and it's not just aid. it's trade and investment and social enterprise and helping places unlock their own domestic sources. you think anyone in africa likes aid? no. ireland? germany? no. take it, though. anyway, it's not a right-left issue. it's a right-wrong issue and

america has constantly been on the side of what's right because when it comes down to it, this is babbitt -- this is about keeping faith with the idea of america. because america is an idea, isn't it? i mean ireland is a great country. it's not an idea. great britain is a great country. it's not an idea. that is mao we see you around the world. -- that's how we see you around the world. right up there with the remay songs and crop rotations and the beatles white album. the american idea is it's an idea. the idea that you and me are created equal. it will ensure an economic recession will not become an equality recession and the idea that life is not meant to be endured but enjoyed. the idea that -- we'll do the rest. this country was the first to

claw its way out of darkness and put in on paper. and god love you for it. because there -- these aren't just american ideas anymore. there's no copyright on them. you brought them into the world. it's a wide world now. i know america says they have the world within them. but the thing is the world has a bit of america in it, too. these truths, your truths, they are self-in evidence us. so those people i've been talking about today, the poor, they are not those people, they are not "them." they are us, you. they may be sprate from us by oceans and circumstance. but as they dream as you dream, they value what you value, there is no them, only us. the american anthem is not exceptionalism, it's universalism. there is no them, only us.

u -- bun thank you -- there is no them, only us. the jesuits, they know about us. the largeness of spirit and enlightened sense of who is your neighbor? i'm not a jesuit. my mother a protestant and my dad a clath lick. he was of a whole other order. [laughter] >> but here's one i know -- i love him. i miss him. but here's what i know about the jesuits and ignatius loyola. he was a soldier, lying on a bed, recovering from his wounds when he called -- when he had what is called a conversion of the heart. he saw god's work and the call to do god's work not just in the church but the arts, the world, orient, world, and once

he knew about that, he could not unknow it. it changed him. it forced him out of bed and into the world. and that's what i'm hoping happens near georgetown with you. because when you truly accept those childrens in some far off place have the same value as you, in god's eyes or even just in your eyes, then your life is forever-changed. you see something that you cannot unsee. we have a sense of it from the words of wail goenen. -- of whale goenen i have his words tattooed on my brain. a man who stood in terrier square at the start of the 21st century. we are going to win. because we don't understand politics. we are going to win because we don't play their dirty games, we are going to win because we don't have a party political agenda.

because tears that come from our eyes actually come from our hearts. because we dream and are willing to stand up for our dreams. because the power of the people is so much stronger than the people in power. thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you so much. that kissing george bush on the lips is going to get me fired. my band.

eh. >> so bono has agreed to take a few questions. so i'd ask that anyone with questions come to the mike in the center aisle. please try to hold yourself to one question so that we can get in as many as possible in a few minutes. thank you. >> yes, sir. >> good evening. how are you? any name peter, i'm a member of the mcdonough school class of 1999 and m.b.a. class of 2010. onbehalf of the alumni, thank you for coming to the hill to. i used to stand on that stage and sing your songs when i was with a group called the phantoms here. tonight i'll stick to your question. tonight awork with a group called united way and works with companies like bank or america and companies that are part of red. a lot of times it feels like a

lot of the same people and companies at the table like we're preaching to the choir so my question to you is what advice do you have for all of us to bring new people into the work and where should we go to find them? thanks. >> i would say -- i was a big fan of the phantoms. your first two al bottoms -- albums were great but then you sold out. [laughter] [applause] as regards of the companies, let me talk about red. because red i think we're going to be at 200 million by this world's aids day which is incredible. but the whole thing about getting red partners was it had to work for them. you know? and if you take two companies, a car companies or drinks companies, we think that if --

if one becomes red and the other do you want, people will choose the red one. so we just signed up coca-cola. and i said to muta, a man i admire. i said remember thatted a you used to have that says coke adds life now you can say coke saves life. if that works and they see bump, they are going to keep going red and i'm sure what it is with brian and i don't want to answer for him but and bank of america, it's about values as well as value. and i think that there's -- this generation is very smart about their choices, and they know that they can play with the stock market just by what company they support by buying

their stuff. and that's powerful. we call it conscious consumerism. if you're greedy. if you're just a company that's just on those attack ads, well, we'll buy somewhere else. and i think that's it. it's got to work, ok? >> thank you for coming to speak with us tonight. i'm a senior in this school at georgetown. my sister claire is currently serving in the peace core in south western rwanda and living with three understand in and to say you're her biggest -- that she is your biggest fan is an understatement. but in the first week she was serving in rwanda, her and the understand in found a 3-year-old orphan left in a bush with aids and she has been taking care of him for the last

three months and i wonder where you would speak this 3-year-old boy or my sister words of encouragement or what would you say to francois about his future? >> oh, well thanks to the united states, and leadership in this room and in britain, i have to say, you know, in a time of great austerity, david cameron and conservative government and coalition with the liberal democrats are increasing their aids budget. it's amazing. so i would say that the future for francois is in jeopardy. depending on if we can get more countries to follow the lead of the united states, and i just mentioned britain. because it's not just enough to save child's life. you want to make sure that

child has an education. girls education is just the most. that's the -- i mean it's a course term, but the greatest sort of return on investment is girls education. women transform the landscape of poverty quicker than men. and so you know, it's not just a single bullet. it's not just global health. it's agriculture, making sure farmers can deal with different climate -- climatic conditionses you've seen in the world with the weather, it's terrifying if you live in bangladesh, not just in new york. so it's complicated. but i do think if you want it to happen, and i speak to your generation across the world, then francois is going to have a great future.

an entrepreneur on every street in rwanda. i remember in ethiopia, the president who is dead now. he passed away. he said the farmers, you know, are the smartest people in our country. and i said, why is that? >> and he said, because if they weren't, they'd be dead. like the innovation and the smarts that it has taken africans to survive difficult conditions means that in the marketplace, they are so sharp. so hard. i feel that affinity with the irish right there. if you have known struggle, you get good at survival. thank you. >> hello bono my name is diego gonzalez munster and i want to thank you for gig one of the greatest motivational speeches

i've heard ever. [applause] >> thank you. >> i was also told to tell you that ben sherman says hello. but my question is, how do you think we can promote ininvestment as a tool to try promote economic growth and political change in africa? >> oh, it's happening. this is one of the things that maybe i could have spevent longer on but maybe that was -- that was long, fidel castro school of speech making. and -- it's the key. it really is the key is investment. and you know, one of the things we're very pleased with is -- it's called the millennium challenge account. it's an innovative attitude linking with it -- business-minded approaches to aids and therefore, leveraging

aids to create the environment for investment. the corruption piece is amazing. let me tell you, and -- i bet he knows a lot about this. but in the dodd frank bill, there's an amendment called -- lugar. and it makes it through a any -- on the new york stock exchange, it is law that they have to publish what they paid for the mining rights. the truth of it is right now the american petroleum institute is suing the s.e.c. to try and overthrow that. that is astonishing. and i know people in those companies are amazing people,

and it's very important, your energy here, and it shouldn't be, and it's not in this case a political issue. europe and america -- europe is going to follow this lead. are going to make this outlandish owe pass to the best of my recollection and if that word doesn't exist, i'd like suggest it to the committee of the oxford dictionary. but the opaque nature of these deals is north of the equator. because when you publish what you pay then the civil societies in those regionens get to hold their government account. that's one of the best things you can do to stimulate business and investment. thank you. >> hi, my name is -- i'm a senior in the this is close to my heart. i'm a terrible public speaker

-- dish outside the -- >> sorry, i missed that. >> the whole question? >> it sounded good. [applause] >> how do we develop the global citizen in the minds of -- >> there's an amazing website you can go to called -- they are an amazing group. they just put on a concert in central park and asked u 2 to play, we couldn't but they said no problem we have all these great bands but they are really pushing this idea, and it's a jump in human consciousness, and i think -- go on to that website. i recommend it. they did a great job. >> good morning. i'm originally from namibia,

and i wanted to say thank you so much for coming today and speaking about africa. i was, like, waving and everything and i'm so excited to hear about -- >> without thinking that i know necessarily more because i've gone to george tunde just really thinking about how we can ease back into the african experience and assist people without being condescending, if that makes sense.

>> i look forward to meeting you when you become president of your country, which you are clearly going to be. condescending, the keyword. and not to condescend, it's very hard. partly what we do is raise the alarm, you know? and we have to when there is deep injustice and crippling poverty. because we have to trays alarm. we have to raise the funds. to put the fires out. but we have to be very careful about how we frame it. because africa is a continent. it's not a country. and there are so many countries. and i was trying to say this tonight. there's this roaring success and then these kind of terribly frustrating and awful

conflicts, and it's not even like there's two africas. there's 51. it's a -- i find it quite difficult, because when you meet really smart, entrepnearly -- one talked to me about this. you've got to be careful, because it's just very easy to caricature -- and this is complex. so i am not wanting to condescend to you by saying we don't quite have the answer, and honestly i look forward to the day when you -- what's your name again? >> vive yen. >> vivian, will be withholding this -- holding this speech, because i see patty talking on

a lectern because desmond tutu is busy. and i serve you. and as i served -- called to serve you. by first mandela and then tutu. and i think, you know, we're all called to serve each other in that sense by god and a sense of common decency. africa is a continent we pick on, because a real issue we are fighting with poverty, because it so happens that we are there. and i suppose a wealth of confidence and stark contrast -- but i'm sure you are ramping up, and as with regards to your own role, i don't think you need any advice from me. [applause] >> thank you. thank you.

i'd like to ask that everyone keep their seats until the members of the stage party have left as well as the distinguished guests here, and the lecture fund ushers will release each row, so this is for safety and security reasons. >> can i just say one last thing before we go? my favorite singer is here. andrea corps, sitting right here with her husband, brett. [applause] >> thank you. >> thank you.

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