report deals with is the rendition program and how various individuals were snatched by the cia and other places and then rendered either to other countries for interrogation or taken to guantanamo. a number of those individuals were citizens of great britain. one of the ironies of all this to me is that several libyans who were protesting and wanted to rebel against the government of colonel gaddafi taken by the cia and turned over to the gaddafi by a favor by the central intelligence agency. some of these guys have now served lawsuits on the officers in britain who had some responsibility for that, and there are a couple that are very curious. jack straw, the british foreign secretary, is the object of one of these suits. the government of great britain settled with one of those

snatchees for $3.5 million. one of the individuals in libya who has sued against mr. straw has said publicly he would be willing to settle that case for a nominal payment of about $6 u.s., plus an apology. the apology is the sticking point in putting that case to bed. >> apologies are extremely important to the victims who have traumas that will affect them for the rest of their lives. >> did you want to add something? >> we have gone on about this issue, one thing i would want to say, because there has been no the administration has decided not to pursue criminal accountability and civil liability has been very difficult in u.s. courts, we have gone outside of the united

states and used universal jurisdiction law to bring cases in other countries for criminal prosecution, accountability, and those efforts so far have not resulted in success yet, but there are those efforts happening. and the different forms of reparations and acknowledgment of wrongdoing, this extends beyond attention to targeted killing, the various areas of national security, where the acknowledgment of even the act is not forthcoming. so i agree there are different ways that reparations can happen, and the base thing is acknowledgment, which is not the least being seen in the targeted killing context either. >> the next question is a very important one -- given the closing at guantanamo, could detainees be brought to u.s. federal courts? are there issues or concerns regarding allegations of torture, and what would that

trial look like? let me say there was a trial in federal court of the detainee who was at guantanamo, and as far as i know, that trial ended in a conviction, and i will turn this over to mo who can talk about commissions versus federal court spirit that trial ended in a conviction. it was a life sentence, yes, a life sentence, and they stuck to the federal rules of evidence in civil procedure and the constitution, and there was a conviction, and it happened quickly. as you all might know, there have been seven convictions in military commissions. six of those were plea bargains. two of the main charges that have been brought, that are being brought, which are conspiracy and material support for terrorism are up at issue

now as to whether those are war crimes prior to 9/11, or at 9/11, at the time. mo, you talk more about -- let's say it, bringing detainees in the trial -- what will that look like? can we do it? come up here. there is a seat for you. >> yeah, it could be done. when i was the chief prosecutor, 14 guys got off the airplane with khalid sheik mohammed. one was galani, the only detainee brought to the u.s., prosecuted in new york. new york did not collapse in a heap because of the trial. he was convicted. critics say he was acquitted. he was acquitted of 199 and

convicted of only one offence. but he got life without parole. at guantanamo we have had seven convictions. five of the seven people being convicted are now that compared you get convicted of a war crime, that might be our joke. you have to lose to win. you might get to go home. if you do not get charged, you could sit there for the rest of your life. the administration has to make a decision on which cases they want to prosecute, and they should be prosecuted in federal court, where it has been fast. there have been no acquittals in a terrorism-related case. severe sentences at guantanamo hamdan got a misdemeanor. a family in virginia got a bigger sentence by giving their teenager a beer. the d.c. circuit has overturned

his conviction, saying material support for terrorism was not a criminal offense. six of the seven people being convicted have been convicted in the offense that our courts have said is not a crime. again, it is hard for me to imagine what is the good reason to keep guantanamo open and continue this process other than right-wing talking points to paint the president as weak on terrorism. >> but let me add, as a former litigator, there is a classified information procedures act that people are concerned about classified information. do you know how many trials related to al qaeda, suspected terrorism, where it comes to the play? classified information is protected. if torture is classified in some way, then it will not be released to the public. if not, then the public should know.

we have a right to know, whether torture is being done in our name. >> you can establish a federal district court right now at guantanamo bay if the president so decides. second, this group of retired flag officers and others oppose the use of military commissions to try these people for this reason. it grants them warrior status, which they very much desire, but which is an honor that they do not deserve. we would much rather see them treated as the common criminals they are rather than as the warriors they pretend to be. >> we should be focused on the procedure and not necessarily at the end and look at the length of the sense as an indicator of the strength of the system.

chance of happening. >> let me take one more question and then we will wrap it up. >> i would ask us to reflect on how we have let our institutions do our sinning for us. i was at the holocaust museum in israel. there were pictures of generals giving allegiance to hitler. we are not very far from that. right now we have representatives of the best of the best, ok, of those three professions. some doubly represented, ok? but how is it, for example, that the legal profession cannot find its voice? the ama says there is at such a thing as a hippocratic oath.

the aba talks about hypocritical things. but what will it take these people to be held accountable by their professional peers? [applause] >> i am not sure there is an answer to that. let me ask our experts if they have concluding remarks regarding transferring the men out of guantanamo, particularly those who have been cleared, and closing guantanamo. any last thoughts? >> i want to play off a comment that the colonel made. the congress of the united states is a reactive branch of government. the supreme court of united states is a reactive branch of government. the presidency has the power of

the bully pulpit to accomplish many, many things. and i think in this case, what really is necessary and will do more than anything else to flush this issue to the front would be for an aggressive presidential leadership policy to be implemented from the white house, and he may challenge the limitations on presidential power, but unless those challenges are made, nothing is going to happen. and he is the one person who right now is in the position and has the authority and the political power to begin to make a serious difference, and it has to start there. [applause] >> to follow up, this is a very disquieting thing for me to follow the polls in this country on, for example, torture. the polls are not declining in

terms of americans who support torture. they are rising. if you do not have the american people behind you, then you have potentially the greatest influence missing. that is one of the great ingredients of the presidential decision-making process, sensing the will of the american people. you go out in the hinterland, and in the hinterland, 61% of americans under certain conditions -- express those in your polling questions -- would support torture. a hell of a lot of moral courage is required on the part of the president to stand up to that. >> it is actually a little worse. the numbers are exactly flipped.

more americans are opposed to torture under president bush, and now the number that are opposed were pretty much the number that favored torture under some circumstances under president obama. why did this happen? i think the primary reason -- and this is the flip side of the president needing a popular pressure -- the proponents of torture had been given a free rein in the media without any significant opposition from the president and the people in power. and so they have managed to turn public perceptions in their favor. you cannot move forward without looking back. and if you do not look back, the

past will come back to bite you. >> i wanted to end by underscoring the urgency of the situation, the urgency of action by the president now. there really is not time, and i do not think it is exaggerated to say there is not time to review cases and deliberate. there needs to be transfers that start now. there are over 100 men who have been on hunger strike for over 100 days. over 20 of them are being forced fed. the military's response so far has been we will not let people die, what we will just force feed them. as the president said, that is not a sustainable, tenable scenario. in order to keep guantanamo from becoming a more shameful chapter of american history, there needs to be action starting now, and there are 86 people the

administration has approved for transfers, that they can begin transferring today. [applause] >> with that, i would like to end, but i would like to talk about litical will, that means people and members of conference, to start those transfers yesterday. thank you. [applause] if anyone wants to join us, there will be a [indiscernible] at 1:00. you are encouraged to come join us. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]

>> president obama will honor the 2013 national association of police organizations later this morning in the white house rose garden. watch live coverage beginning at 11:00 a.m. eastern here on c- span. >> the vice chair of the armed services committee is our guest this week on newsmakers. the congressman talks about defense issues, including the response to the attack on the u.s. embassy in benghazi, libya, sin -- serious, and the reports on sexual assault. watch newsmakers on sunday at 10:00 a.m. on c-span. louisiana governor bobby jindal was the keynote speaker at a fundraiser hosted by the new hampshire gop state senate lyrical action committee. governor jindal is reportedly considering a presidential run in 2016. the event was held at the radisson hotel in downtown new hairhis remarks are about 20

nu[applause] >> i want to thank everybody for coming out today to help support our deserved of republican senators who are making such a great difference. let's give them a round of applause for the tremendous work they're doing. even before i get started, i also want to thank not only at nhe republican but as a american for sending kelly ayotte to the united states senate. what a fantastic job she is doing for us everyday. she is courageous, she stands for our present bulls. i want to thank you. what in addition to washington, d.c.

it would be easy to talk about everything president obama is doing wrong. but i want to assume you already know that. i assume you know that and you agree with that. many of us worked hard to make him a one-term president. i want to talk about something different. i want to talk about where do we go as a republican party. if all you do is watch the networks and listen to the washington pundits, it feels like our entire republican party is in a state a public confession. we need counseling. everywhere you know, people have their perfect solutions, we need to hire more consultants from silicon valley, we need to fix the big data, abandon our principles, change our views, become more like the other party. i am tired of the navel gazing. you see these guys on tv -- if we just won x more votes, we would have won the election.

that is if we had one more point we would have won the football game. we lost the election. it is time to get over it. i am tired of all the public confessions. we already have one liberal party. we do not need another. we can win by sticking to principles, but we need to make changes and think seriously about where we go. i gave a speech to the rnc at the republican governors association, and there are several things we need to do. i listed seven items. one of those got more attention than anything else. you may have seen, i said basically we need to stop being the stupid party. everybody paid attention to that. that was the one thing that got reported. i have three children at home. we have a jar where if you say a

bad word, you have to put a dollar in that drawer. my little boy -- i have a boy at home -- every time i come on tv, he would make me put a dollar in. i meant more than just dumb comments a couple of candidates made. what i meant by that is we have to present thoughtful policy solutions to the people, not just bumper stickers. we have to have the confidence of our convictions and show how our ideas will benefit them. that is being a party that looks forward. what do you mean? we are a young country at heart. we are a country who believes our best days are ahead of us. we cannot be a party that keeps talking about the good old days. when we tell people that our

best days are ahead of us and we get control of our government, if we preserve the freedom we inherited from our parents. we need to fight for every single vote. we need to fight for 100%. every single vote. we need to have the confidence and courage to say our principles and policies and beliefs help every american to the middle class. we want voters to like us. the democratic party starts dividing people in groups and some groups and special interests. we view everybody as americans first, and we will go after them like that. as a party we have to stop being the party of big. we cannot be about being for big government or big anything. the democratic party presents itself as the populist party, but they believe in centralized government, top-down solutions. bureaucrats know better than parents have to educate their children. we are the populist party that

believes in freedom, empowering, and entrusting the people to make decisions for themselves. we have got to be comfortable talking about ideas and issues that we have not focused on before. i want to give you examples. i want to start first with education policy, and, second, i want to talk about why we need to the be about the party about growth and opportunity, not austerity. one is education's role. you can make it practical argument education is one of the most abundant challenges and issues in front of us, not as a state, but as a country. you can look at the studies that show if we want to be a superpower, keep kids out of jail, reduce people on welfare, if we want to do these things, educational achievement is key. you look at statistics. they are sobering. we rank 17th in math, 25th in science, 16th in educational attainment across the world. think about that. if you are in your 50's, you

ranked number one when you were in school. it does not sound american to be yelling "we are number 16!" the reality is how will we compete unless we have the most educated people in the entire world. throwing more money at it is not a solution. we have doubled per-student money, but scores are flat. we spend more money for students, but rank so far behind these other countries. our kids compete with kids from singapore, japan, taiwan, russia, and that is all of the world. it is not just a practical argument. there is a moral argument. we should stand as a party and conservative movement for providing a great education to every child in the state and country. the moral imperative is this --

we are an aspiration party, people, and country. we believe and our bones that the circumstances of your birth do not determine your outcome. we believe that you did not have to be born in the right zip code, your gender does not even matter. that cannot determine your outcome. it goes back to what every mom and dad says -- if you are willing to work hard and get a great education, there's no limit to what you can accomplish. how many times have we heard those stories? you can grow up to be a doctor, and for that to be true, we have to provide a great education for every child. there's a story that i like repeating because it makes it funny point, that bobby kennedy went home one day and told his dad, the famous joe kenney, that he'd wanted to be a catholic priest.

with joe kennedy, he wanted his boys to be president. when bobby kennedy went home and told joe this, he said," bob, that would be great. we have never had a pope in the kennedy family before. it would be good to have one of those." i love that confidence, that attitude that my child to do anything. yes, there are too many children in this country who do not have the opportunity to get a good education. we like to say we are about equal opportunity. we need to change the way we educate our children. most of us will move to neighborhoods with great public schools. or we will save to send our kids to the private schools if that is what it takes. there are far too many kids who live in neighborhoods with bad local options. what do we do? there are a couple of things we have done in louisiana. i will start with a simple idea. make the dollars follow up the child. do not make the child followed the dollar. let me tell you what that means to us.

we fought hard to pass a government scholarship program, our dollars-for-dollars for the kids, because every child learns differently. some kids will do great in a public school. some kids will do great in an on-line school. the point is let the moms and dads decided they know their children better than anybody else. when we proposed this, the teachers' union said parents do not have a clue when it comes to making choices for their kids. i cannot imagine anything more offensive or more untrue when it comes to the educational debate. that is a contrast to what they believe compared to what we believe in. moms said, we make choices for our kids every day. this is not just theory.

look at what is going on in new orleans today. 70% of our kids are in charter schools. in the last five years we have doubled the percentage of kids doing reading and math on grade level. go back to before 2005, over half of our kids were graduating in new orleans. i can go on with numbers, and we have more work to do, we're not where we need to be, but we're moving in the right direction. we started a program in 2008. we were spending over $8,000 -- $8,500 per kid in public school. we spent over $5,000 in scholarships, and the academic scores were better. last year when we did it for the first time, we had 10,000 kids apply. this year we had 12,000 kids apply, and we had 8,000 in the first-run alone.

we have higher academic scores. who could oppose this bill? the coalition or the status quo? the teacher unions and others who did not understand reform is about the kids, not about the adult in the class. it is about making sure our kids will only have one chance to grow up to get a good education. i am tired of people telling us just wait and give them time, we will improve their schools. we only have one chance to get a good education. the second thing is to put a great teacher in every classroom. every study shows the single most important thing you can do. if you can reduce class size, buy new computers, that is great. the single most important thing we can do is put a great teacher. there are studies at stanford showing kids earn thousands of dollars more in their careers because of good teachers. if your fourth-grade daughter has a great teacher, she is more

likely to go to college, less likely to become pregnant as she gets older as a teenager. from having a great fourth-grade teacher. you would think we have policies to recognize this. most of our states, we reward our teachers based on how long they have been breathing, not how well they're doing. if i went to your business and told you can -- after three years, you're not allowed to get rid of any of your employees for any reason -- if you have two employees, one who is productive and stays afterward and does a great job, and another that does the bare minimum, you have to pay them the same. how long would you stay in business? that is how we treat the teaching profession. that is how we have revamped tenure, pay, hiring, firing policies to say let's do something obvious and simple. let's tie all that to student achievement. let's reward teachers who are helping kids to learn.

a radical thought. let's treat teachers like professionals. for the first time we are above the southern average in louisiana, and we want to do better than that. it is not complicated, letting the dollars follow that kids. this is the right thing to do for states, the country, also the right thing to do for the republican party. if we will be aspirational, a party about opportunity, we have to be about a great education for every student. the reason i am passionate is not only do i see the impacts of my state, where 78% of companies that want to move to louisiana say their concerns are finding skilled workers. we have cut taxes. we have revamped our ethics code. we have done many things. yet our economy is doing better than these other economies, but

if we want to continue, we have to have the most skilled people. my dad is one of those, one of nine, and every one of us has an example like this. one of those kids that drew up in a house without electricity, without running water, the first and only one in the family who got past the fifth grade. i heard these stories every single day of my life. my dad did not grow up with a lot of money, but when he was raising his family, he would tell us this -- i will not give you a famous last name or inheritance, but i will make sure you get a great education. in america there is no limit what you can do if you have a great education. i have seen it in my family. this is what we stand for as a party. we spend too much time criticizing the other party the other side without saying what we are for. we allow them to characterize

that you want everybody to have that dream that my dad has pursued, that your grandparents pursued, if your grandparents were the first in your family. that brings me to my final point. when need to be the party of growth, not austerity. if you listen to the debate, it is about zeros. it is about austerity and about spreadsheet and powerpoint presentations and tv ads. we have to stop spending money we do not have. i worry about that with my children. we have cut our budget 26%. we balance our budget every year. we cut the number of state employees a record amount over 20,000. in louisiana and new hampshire and america, we must not become

the party that is obsessed with government and government only. this debate is not about what we are about, that we are fighting this debate on the other party's terms. this is about government and the government saying it is not about the private-sector economy. we need to remind people the other party is the party of us, not the republican party. the democrats pretend to be a party of more government, but they are the party of fewer jobs, lower incomes, and more scarcity. the republican party is the party that is here to manage the slow decline of this great country. that is not our mission, our goal. that is their goal. our best days are ahead of us. we have fought this entire debate on the other side's terms. we need to make it clear we are about growing the private sector, not the public sector, but the government economy, the real economy that happens outside of washington. we need to get our spending under control, but we are about freedom.

you cannot have prosperity and you cannot have what makes america so great about individual freedom without individual economic security. we are about growing the middle class, helping others join the middle class. in washington that includes an energy policy that means more domestically produced energy, blowing up the tax code so it is not washington telling us how to live our lives. it should not be complicated to fill out your taxes. this means having a real debate about the size and scope of the government's interest in our lives, but if you only remember one thing, i hope as a republican party we will stop being the party of austerity, but be the party of growth and opportunity, be the party of growing the middle class. as i conclude, i share this -- we lost a great leader when margaret thatcher passed away. she gave the remark that you have to win the debate before you win the election. it is important we win the next election and the one after that,

but this is more than just about winning an election. this is about winning a very important debate about where do we go as a country. one of the things my dad would tell us, and parents always tell you things to make you roll your eyes, and you do not appreciate them until you have your kids. every day i get to tell of how sorry i am for the misery i caused my parents. one of the things my dad would tell us growing up, tell us you are lucky, you are blessed. you should feel blessed that you were born in america. when you are a kid, you do not appreciate that. what else would i do? i was born and raised my whole life in louisiana. would i be a texan? where else would i be? of course i am an american. now, i appreciate what he is trying to tell me. my kids did not come here from

another county because they knew if you worked hard you could get ahead. every generation has more opportunities for our children than we have inherited from parents. let's not become the first generation that mortgages are children. we have to win this debate, and i am tired of the confessions and the analysis. if we are brave and courageous to stand for individual freedom, to stand for lower taxes and smaller government, if we are willing to say to the president we trust the american people to make their own decisions, to run their own lives, we will win the debate and win those elections. for those that are wringing their hands or looking at poll numbers and worrying about the last election results, i tell them freedom is an eternal

principle. it is a principle worth fighting for. i close with this. as we decide the candidates to support, i would hope we do this i would hope we rally around a candidate and those leaders that stand for what is right, not just what is popular, the candidates and those leaders that are willing to take a stand for freedom to say america's greatest days are ahead of us, and our answer and beauty and the genius of this country was not in a building in washington, but in the hearts and souls of the individual american people who truly make this the greatest country in the history of the entire world. thank you for letting me come speak to you. >> thank you. we will see a lot more of him. thank you.[applause]

>> kentucky senator rand paul held the lincoln dinner in cedar rapids. senator paul has publicly said he is considering a run for president but the decision will not come before 2014. meantime, he says he will continue making trips to other state such as iowa and new hampshire. he spoke about the situation and the agave. immigration legislation in congress and outreach by the republican party. this is about 20 minutes. [applause] ♪

>> thank you. i knew your senator was conservative, but i did not know how funny he is. i grew up in a small town. i flunked kindergarten. i rode my bike to school from kindergarten through eighth grade. to baseballke practice, swimming, football, basketball. i did remember playing for hours. i tell you all that to know that living in a small town, getting to know about people in a good

town, you know the good people, the bad people, the people who pray, the people who do not behave. most of the time i was in the behave category. i think it is small town, you know who good people are. the one thing i can tell you from getting to know your senator and mrs. grassley is they are good people. to ivory much. [applause] -- thank you very much. , was in new york the other day driving down the road, and i came up to the federal reserve. this is an easy crowd. all right. are everywhere. the road is blocked and we are sitting there for hours. they said the federal reserve has been robbed. we said, really? and they said, yeah, they caught the thieves.

they were perplexed. they did not know what to do with -$16 trillion. [applause] i know you have heard some bad things about open, care. your government just want to take care of you. they don't think you are smart enough to make these decisions. i am a physician. when you come in to see me, i put down a little diagnostic code. there was 18,000 of these. but under obama care, they're going to keep you healthier because now there will be 140,000 codes. including among this -- these codes will be 300 codes for injuries from animals. for injuries just from birds.

nine new codes for injuries from the macaw. the macaw? all overd physicians the country -- have you ever seen an injury from a macaw? there are two new injury codes injuriesma care for sustained from a turtle. you might say, turtle can be dangerous. needs to inform the government whether you have been struck by a turtle or bitten by a turtle. -- i seea new code some alcohol out there -- walking into a lamp post. there is also a code for walking into a lamppost -- subsequent encounter. there is a code for injuries sustained from burning water skis. your blotter met -- your government is a string to take care of you.

these days ande they get their news from comedians, youtube, they do not watch the regular news. my 16-year-old son -- 17, i think. 17-year-old son sends me a youtube of jimmy kimmel on the street. he is on the street and he says to a young woman walking down the street, well, you heard the president has pardoned the sequester and descended to portugal. [laughter] what do you think? thethe young lady says, president would not do it if it were not a good thing. i trust the president. besides, i think portugal decides to have the thing. so he went on and ask some other people, what about -- i guess you've heard north korea has been rattling the saber, they have been doing the things we heard that we have sent them the sequester. the north koreans, they deserve it.

, i think we are winning the public relations battle on the sequester. the president thinks, oh, i will just close down the self guided towards in the white house. that will teach them. but the same week he closes down the self-guided tour's to the white house, which i'm not sure what the funding mechanism is for self-guided tours, he closes them down but he finds $250 million to send to egypt. in addition to the $2 billion we are already sending to egypt. in addition to the f5 and 16's 16s we sending to -- f- are sending to egypt. he has all the money, but he cannot keep the white house [o open? [applause] the thing is, he is playing a

game with the american people. and we are not eyeing it, mr. president. $3.8 trillion government. you can't find money to cut without cutting the air traffic controllers, the meat inspectors, without giving us three hour-long lines? next time you are at the airport and you say to your brother the bad word about about what he is doing and the sequester. that youn the airport are being made to be a game here. it is a game to show the sequester is not working. of growthf the rate of government. has anybody seen the chart on tv? if we do nothing, the government collective, voodoo the sequester, the government grows like this. there's not even a white space between the lines. theyhe president says -- never cut any spending. so i have a few items for it

tonight. [applause] we spent $325,000 last year to discover whether a squirrel or a rattlesnake will bite a squirrel that is not wagging its tail. they could not find a squirrel tovolunteer, so they had build a robotic squirrel. and guess what? -- rattlesnake will bite bite the you know what out of a squirrel. $325,000. a menu forent on mars. this is a great thing. perfect job for your 26-year-old living in your basement. all incentives paid trip to hawaii.

the only prerequisite is you have to like food. so college students went to hawaii for two weeks. that's what they came up with? pizza. that was money well spent. --spent $3 million last week last year on turtle tanks. i cannot help but have a picture in my mind that has a sign that says turtles, go under the road, not through the road. i'm sure that one is working really well. we spent $1.8 million developing rollup beef jerky. they came out of the military budget. we spent $5 million in the military budget on a studying the collective action of fish. these are just the ones i can remember. there are hundreds of these. tom coburn has been a great job looking through all of these in finding these. it is amazing.

you can imagine how much waste there is an government. mr. president, if you want to tell us we have to fire the air traffic controllers but we're going to get rollup beef jerky, we are not going to tolerate it. [applause] now, i got on the foreign affairs committee this year, so i got to ask a few questions. i did not get finished, so i have still got a few. we will hopefully get them relayed through the media to them. the first question for hillary clinton -- where in the hell were the marines? [applause] you know what her answer is? the marines are to guard the paper. ofay look, i know a lot marines, and i think they can

do more than guard paper. she said, that is the role. their to guard paper not personnel. do thathey're going to in baghdad. the point is that benghazi is more like baghdad than it is paris. we did a review board of all of this, and there were a lot of mistakes made at the time, after the time, there is all of this cover-up. but what has always been most important to me is what happened in the six months leading up to this, because there is no excuse in the six month leading up to this when there are people on the ground, military people and state department people are asking for more help. they are asking for security, and they got nothing. was a inexcusable, it dereliction of duty, and it should preclude her from holding higher office. [applause]

on may 5, the year of the dc3ck, they requested a plane. this is not one of our newest root planes. -- our newest planes. it was denied. three days later, though, the state department approved $100,000 for an electrical charging station because they bringing up the embassy in vienna. he found out the plugs were not working, so he made $100,000 to bring special plugs over there to -- so he could plug in his electrical cars. so we do not have enough money to have a plane. no plan for you. but we spent $100,000 showing

off our climate change philosophy for the western europeans. we go through the summer and we find out that the state department also spent $100,000 on three comedians that we sent to india on a promotional tour. so we don't have money for security, but we have money for comedians to go to india. we also found out last summer during the midst of all this before the attacks that the state department spent $80 million on a consulate in the northern part of afghanistan that will never be occupied. why? because they got a 10-year lease, built the building, then they noticed -- you know what, there are balconies that looked down on our buildings all the way around surrounding our willing. maybe this will be a security risk. we are not occupying the building. then they have the audacity to

say we need more money. maybe would take some leadership to decide how the money is spent. [applause] but what seals the deal on benghazi is that repeated requests. she was asked directly by myself and others -- did you read the cables? did you read the request for help? and she said no, i am busy, i get lots of cables. and i said look, i do not excite you to read every cable from bulgaria or estonia, but i do expect you from one of the five most dangerous in the countries -- libya, to be reading the cables. [applause] we got some news from the hearing in the house. i think we will get more news. most of that action is going to

happen -- we have requested hearings in the senate, but we do not control the committee. the other big issue we have before us is immigration. wave may not all agree on exactly what it is. why i respect senator grassley, we may not be on the same page, but we may be. i want to let you know where i am because we have to think through the issue and there are many ramifications to this. the number one -- we do have a problem -- the number one reason why we have illegal immigration in this country is people are not using the work visa program. farmers are bringing in workers. my state has farmers, and there are some here, and they are using these workers. they're not using the work visa program because it is cumbersome, expensive, a pain in the you know what, and they are just not using it. so about half a million people coming in to pick crops, but only about 65,000 are using the work visa row graham. that is how you you get more

illegal immigration. if you do not think that problem, then we are going to have another 10 million in another 10 years. so you have to fix the work visa problem. i am in favor of trying to fix it. so i am in favor of immigration reform. however, i am concerned about .he bill in some ways i'm concerned that one of the things they do is they actually put a cap on work visas. currently the active visas for work have no cap. capbill is going to put a on work visas. it is a negotiated settlement between the labor unions and the chamber of commerce. but it's not like wrong direction, not the right direction. think we were hoodwinked in 1986. we were promised security that never came. i think you do have to have security. so i am right there with them on it. i'm going to try to fix it. i know grassley will try to make it better to. we're going to try again on on

the floor. i have an amendment that is called trust and verify. what it says is an set of getting into the president and saying you get to decide, republican or democrat, reading some upward -- reading some reports -- i say, each year we have something to look at and there is a report that we vote on it every year. immigration reform, the process of what we do to go forward depends on that vote. so it is not that we just get a promise from the administration -- we actually participate and we vote. if i can get something like that or if they come towards me and they will make border security, there is a chance i can vote for the bill. am i worried a little bit -- yes. i might offend some people. i am also worried that if it does not work, people will get blamed for it. try to fix it because i think there is a problem. i also think that as a party

when he to grow bigger and that we need to attract the latino vote. way to attract the african- way to change the way we are talking about it and who we are if we want to attract the latino vote. legislativea solution, but this is what i believe -- we need to treat immigrants with dignity and respect. if you want to work in our country, i want to find a place for you to work. that is not the legislative solution. it is that the people are here. there is a certain sense of de facto amnesty and that they are not going home. their kids will be voting. if their kid think we are hostile, they are never going to vote for us. we are an increasingly diverse nation. people do not wear the same

cloakroom on exactly who we are, we need to reach out. we have to do something. situation.ame we have a rich history. every republican auto have a meeting about the history of the republican party. it is an amazing history. some criticize me -- i went to howard. they may not -- they may know that the republican form the end of lake city. they may have not known -- they may have known that, but not every american knows that. , in louisville, 1930, 19 90 -- 99% of the registered black voters were republicans. 99%. in 1917, a case was taken all the way to the supreme court. it is the most famous case to overturn jim crow. the law is passed by the democrats authority in my sort -- my state. the same democratic party that voted against the 14th amendment, the 15th minute.

we have a great, rich history. we need to to bring it into the present. and say look, these school system is abysmal and our country. it is really awful and more awful for those who are stuck in a some areas. in louisville, and the predominately african-american areas, 40% graduation rate from high school. --s is academic agendas that academic genocide. we need a party that says we're going to fix this this. we need to give people a school choice, scholarship, a chance to go to the same school our kids go to. i think we will get people to consider us as a party, but they will not unless we set -- show up. i went to the hispanic chamber of commerce -- they were very perspective -- very respected. many of them used to be republicans. they are open to us on family issues and traditional marriage, but there stopped by the one issue. so we need to do the right

thing on immigration. we need to express something different. we need to express something that attracts people to our party. there is an american painter that talks about -- he says to people who want to paint -- a like a man coming over a hill singing. i just love the image of that. we didn't leave the party that proclaims -- we need to be the party that proclaims what we stand for. i think of the von trapp family -- the hills are alive. did anybody of, catch the band -- i also think of the proclaimers. we need this kind of passion. give me liberty, or give me death. we also need the passion of what young people have, what young people who are in love have. , and iwalk 500 miles

will walk 500 more just to be the man who walked 1000 miles to fall down at your door. [applause] we will be the dominant national party again when we become the party that is like the man coming over the hill singing. thank you very much. [applause] >> today on c-span, your calls, tweets and e-mails live on "washington journal." followed by debbie terry defense secretary ashton carter. -- deputy defense secretary ashton carter. click next on "washington viebeck onlise

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