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tribute to frank. he quoted from a pole and by emerson that asks what makes a great. the answer is not gold or arms but leaders who stand fast in suffer long, who work while others sleep, who dare. frank lautenberg with such a leader. he dared greatly, and he led boldly. and we are safer, stronger, and more ross fritz because he did. our hearts are with is wonderful family. he loved it he was loved, and after all, that is what makes a great life. thank you, frank. [applause]
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>> secretary clinton, thank you so much for your words. danielle, laura, we call on you. >> that was a hard act to follow, too, thank you, secretary. i am danielle, or as frank like to call me, dan. or step one. my sister -- step two. to most people here, the people of new jersey in the world, an accomplishment on many levels, mostly in business, ane a philanthropist, and as inspiring and effective public servant.
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his legacy will impact us for like that for years to come. and adoredrespected, that frank. losing mytune of old hast seven years stayed with us forever. but when my mother brought frank into our lives, it was a great fortune. early on, it was safe to say we hated each other. we had terrible battles because frank was never wrong, and i did not understand or care what a senator was. sorry to all of you wonderful colleagues. [laughter] now i do. i just knew he was a man spending time with my mom. frank was a fighter. in his public life, he fought for things he passionately believes in, but in his private life, he thought sometimes just fought he -- he sometimes just because he felt like fighting and he wanted to be right.
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in both of the world, he was greatly severed and spanish -- and passionate. it turned into one of the best french of sight ever and known. i'vee best friendships ever known. both of us would say you are wrong and i still love you and we would move on. when my mom and frank decided to make it official after 18 , 16. of dating, sorry [laughter] i thrilled for them, but i was so happy i could finally refer to them as my parents. even though it felt like we had been family for so long, somehow making it legal was so meaningful. i'm not sure when, but somewhere in the last 25 years, frank became my dad. he cared about me, worried about me,protected me, comforted and looked at me like a father looks at his daughter.
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his beautiful blue eyes would light up when i walked into a room. we could look at the other in know what we were thinking. we cared about each other's thoughts and feelings. he was always the last man standing up parties. being with him, just hanging out at home. i love watching him make others laugh. at a white house holiday party, frank thought it would be fun to introduce me to the late senator thurmond. senator thurmond said to me nice to meet you, you look like you need a big hug during and boy, did i get one. [laughter] he was a strongman for his his age, and surprisingly affectionate. [laughter]
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and frank was hysterical. he knew that i would get a greeting along those lines. ,rank loved telling a joke telling a story, or playing a prank. but what he really loved was the reaction of the person or group. his work impressing the joy of others. in recent months, he would often say to me -- you are not my blood, but you are mine. poo, you will always remindbe mine, too. my protector, and the most special second at three. i'm honored and lucky to have your friendship and love so long. i know you'll watch over us and protect us. i i knowmeet my dad, you will each other.
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you have a lot in common. i know you two will have a great time exchanging stories about bonnie for eternity. [laughter] please tell him that we love him and miss him and we thank him for sending you to us. frank, you brought great joy and love to my life. i will be forever grateful for the time we had together. recipes, -- rest in peace. i love you. dear frank, it is hard to imagine life without you. it seems like yesterday when mom told me about her new special friend, whom i was not exactly eager to meet. the early days were tough, and our personalities did not gel. i do not get you, you did not get me. it was not until the fifth grade when i was studying the new smoking law when i began to appreciate, respect, and maybe even like you. our assignment was to prepare a
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project related to the smoking ban on airplanes. my classmates labored over posters dioramas and models. i walked in with a recorded interview with you. [laughter] this marks the beginning of a very meaningful and special relationship. [laughter] and i got an a. our family of three soon became a family of four. you became a permanent fixture in the male role model i needed. my mom chose well. our country needs more role models like you. you taught us to fight hard for what you believe in, and you worked tirelessly so your grandchildren and future generations could live in a better world. frank, there are so many things a woman is about you. i will miss your endless phone calls, especially when he wanted to send lowers to mom. weather was her birthday, ,nniversary, or apology flowers and there were plenty of those
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over the years -- [laughter] -- you would call and say hey, laur, i want to send flowers to bon. what is the name of the flower shop? , frank, i've given you you the name and number a million times. it is on your iphone and your computer. it of course, i would give to you again. we would talk about the kids, ketchup, and be on our way. i choose to believe you always had the number accessible but you just wanted to call and say hello. i cherish our weekly dinners, usually at an italian restaurant, were you like to use your restaurant italian. i know you like to say "no garlic," you set it to the waiters, but when, coat check -- waiters, busboys, coat check ladies.
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i will miss you when my girls are on the swing set and i look up to the bedroom terrace and you're not there. i will be waiting for you to interrupt us when we are watching tv. you never understood why we did not stop watching when he walked into the room. [laughter] i will miss you every time i passed the roasted corn stand on the side of the road. the simplest things in life give you the most pleasure. you would walk into the house with a bag of freshly roasted corn with a smile on your face just like a kid in a candy store. laur, have you ever tried this roasted corn? every weekend, the same corn, the same dialog, the same simple pleasure. i will miss your bright smile, the twinkle in your beautiful baby blues, and your whistle. frankie, our country has lost a giant of a man. but i've lost my stepfather. to your wonderful children, daniel and i thank you for
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sharing your dad with us. we learned about american history and understand the true american history that you called papa. wherever he may be, keep your head down. rest in peace, we love you. >> danielle, laura, thank you so much for your beautiful words. vice president biden, we call on of your friend and colleague, senator lautenberg. >> if there is a definition of
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redundant, i am it. [laughter] by the way, josh, i am representing the pope. [laughter] franky havenows been calling me the only catholic jew he knew. know, hillary, i think you are thinking the same thing i was when you were talking. the whole country could have heard all of you. not even about senator frank lautenberg. but just about the definition --
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you are the living definition what it means to be a successful man. i really mean that. i have, a lot of my colleagues have, i have spoken at more eulogies than i would like to remember. broken theready all role i like to observe never make a good eulogy, you are be asked again and again. this is a testament to frank's life. , including me,us nothing i could say, could define what a man he was more than you have all spoken carrie. today grandchildren, there is ,ot a one of us who knew frank not one of us who knew him who did not know all of you. until i had grandchildren, when
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i would try to match them, and then he stopped. [laughter] my wife says i am the most obnoxious grandfather in the world. wrong -- frank was the most noxious. [laughter] by the way, daniel, i knew strom thurmond so well literally i was asked to do a eulogy. i did have eulogy. this is a lot easier. [laughter] youbut i want to sell something, i knew strom thurmond well. he would be proud of your proudection, it would be the way you described it. i'm about to get myself in trouble. [laughter]
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bonnie, i am sure like senator menendez and secretary clinton, i am truly honored to be included, to be asked to think about a guy who was my friend. i know from experience that there is nothing anyone can say outside of the family. fill that void you feel right now. i know from personal experience that profound loss just takes time. beyond mythis capacity to find the worlds to o justice to frank lautenberg. obviously, i cannot do justice
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to what he meant to all of you, or even what he meant to be into this country. ,ut if you use this excuse excuse the point of personal privilege, frank was one of my closest friends in the senate. .e served together we work together in delaware, new jersey. i remember when i met frank in 1975, i had been in office three years, and frank was chairman of the united jewish appeal. i went to see frank, and frank asked me to speak. we immediately -- and i mean immediately -- became friends. the thing that i admired about frank so much is that he always thought in terms of what he could do, what he should do.
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-- he alwayss thought privately, what can i do to make it better? it was not some great theological debate that he had with himself, it was so simple to frank. at least to my operation. there was a problem, so we should fix it. i believe that the greek philosopher eric ladies -- herclites was correct when he said character is destiny. everything about frankie goes to agree, disagree, like, dislike. frank, we all acknowledge that he had great character, exceptional character. we saw that not only how he
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lived his life, but how he died. by serving people in new jersey to the very end. either way, i know you you joked, josh, about your dad, saying you wish he had not made that speech. bonnie will tell you he started at christmas time last, colony, he had to see me -- calling me, he had to see me. i said, frank, are you ok. but no, i have got to see you, but i do not want to talk to you on the phone because we were in the midst of another cliff, crisis in the senate that is not quite work out durin. barbaraer -- i see mikulski smiling. i remember when i came to explain that last deal, and frank came over and grabbed me and said -- i've got to see you. so we worked it out. -- he said i can
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come down right now but maybe you can go to the senate. which i did. i know it'll do everything, bonnie, and i'm sure he told you we spoke about two hours. he wanted my advice -- should he run again? [laughter] what in the hell do you say to frank lautenberg when he says should i run again? even then, frank was slowing a little bit, and he knew it. i thinkfrank, look, you will win again if you run again. will voteen christie for you. [laughter] by the way, the governor and i are friends. we both love the university of delaware. we both went there.
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i even asked him to come out and tear at a few games with me, but he cannot make it. i offered him to write on air force two. one of the advantages. i said frank, what are you thinking? and we talked and talked, and he i said look, i will send you some data. and i said ok. i was going to germany. he said there is a kinder meowing you to talk to. is a guy in germany i want you to talk to. , and your dadain was getting a little more frail. -- what do you think? and i said i think you should run, frank. and then he called me again, this is over about a 2.5 month. period. and said joe, i will not use
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the exact link link was, he said i do not think i can run. he said my legs, my legs. it was clear to me he desperately wanted to run again. and i think the reason is not because he wanted to be senator, but your dad never quit. he never quit anything. he never gave up. for frank lautenberg to decide that he wasn't going to run decision not only a about how he cared about his state, it was about his character. he viewed it in terms of he was
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quitting something. who some of my colleagues knew said joe, never explain and never complain. never explained, and -- he complained a lot. [laughter] but he did not complain about his circumstance. he never complained about what life through his way. write to the very end, the last meeting i'm told frank took was two senator veddeitter just weeks ago to work out a bipartisan breakthrough to bring out -- bring more transparency in toxic chemicals used in everyday products. before he died -- your dad knew -- knowing what shape he was in. even in his final days, it was
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not his health is concerned about, it was the health of the people of new jersey, the health of the kids in this country. anhas left you all incredible legacy. children, stepchildren, grandchildren. legacy hecredible left you. frank one said there is no end to what can be accomplished if you work like the devil. my, god, did he work like the devil. bob was right, he was tenacious. he worked and worked and worked. this guy, who was raised, it was point oued out my times, with little money. i'm told the first time he ever left the new jersey, new york
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region was when he joined the united states army and was shipped out. back, he probably would tell anyone who would listen that he went to columbia. it is not just go to school, he went to columbia. , anyone who knew frank would not be at all surprised why frank was so -- some of my been there i've since 1972, none of them are that old, unfortunately. but you remember the fight on the new g.i. bill, frank was passionate about it. absolutely passionate about it. what it couldw mean. everything your dad did, everything he did was done with passion and success.
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.e was proud of adp , proud.roud .e was proud to be a jew he was proud of his heritage. proud to be a united states senator. like me and my colleagues, the greatest honor can be displayed -- can be bestowed upon you. and i don't think there are many senators, a lot of accomplished women and men here today, but i don't think there are many -- and some of them have done great things -- but not many senators who can in the immediate time that they are acting see
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immediately the effects of the good things they have done. frank was able to do that. ,rank knows that notwithstanding the fact that it probably did put you in trouble in college when he changed the drinking age to 21, and by the way, you're not kidding. [laughter] as ray lahood can tell you, he saved over 25,000 lives so far. people not smoking on airplanes. how many thousands more lives have that saved? , ass the reason why hillary reference, since 1989, hundreds of thousands of jews and other persecuted minorities have been able to go to america. domestic reason why
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abusers are prohibited from owning a gun, saving so many more lives, as dick durbin knows. the violence against women's act. we should in thought have that prohibition in there. he did not rest until he got it done. it's health was failing, he .ever gave up, he never given -- never give in. if it was never frank, amtrak would not be what it is today. josh, i want to tell you something -- nobody, literally in history, has writteridden ams much as me and the conductor. [laughter] i've made,ound trips
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literally. 8000 round trips. -- i never had a home or an apartment in wilmington. the conductors are like my family. after being vice president, one of my good friends come to me and says joey. as they will tell you, they're still my buddies. train every sale they. i would blow out of the senate, i would get down to seven minutes to make the train. and i sometimes miss the train. one day of i am breaking my train -- my neck to get to the train. i am sprinting. if you ever take amtrak, just ask anybody when you hit washington station, if they know joe biden, i guarantee you they will tell you a story about my trying to make the train.
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am like those old commercials, running for the airplane commode jumping over the chairs. airplane,bag -- the jumping over the chairs. carrying my bag. up, thery -- i get conductor said, joey, hold up, don't worry. we holding it for lautenberg. [laughter] and all those years, i never once asked them to hold a train for me. in all those years, jill and i would have every christmas and have the conductors and their families for dinner, it would got -- it didn't got so big we would have a picnic at our home. all these guys, they never once held it for me. and they looked at me. and chris christie just across the row in new jersey, don't
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worry, joe, we are rich -- we are holding ever frank lautenberg. you going to wilmington transition, which has held a lot more people than the lautenberg train station. [laughter] it is referred to the biden transition of a cannot find the name biden anywhere. not once. you see lauzen berg, luxembourg like a neon sign. you seee only guy -- likeany on fine -- you see --eon sign lauzen berg lautenberg. but he did make a difference, josh, he got me on a train. i saved amtrak three times before he was elected. [laughter]
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hell thisow how the happened. you know what i mean yeah g? that is mostly true. [laughter] but your dad and i had a little -- as they say in southern delaware -- we had a little auburn call. he said, you know, joe, i think we should have one train, at least one of the runs, it is going to go from washington, make one stop, and then to new york. i said over my dead body. you think i'm kidding? that is the only time frank and i -- and frank, i said you are a powerful guy.
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you will not get another judge in new jersey, i promise you. cutas actually going to out the delaware station, my friend. he's said joe, imagine what it would mean to be able to do that. i said yeah, you have to limit the money and buy a place in washington. i can tell you that. the fact is that franco is had to be in the game -- that frank always had to be in the game. that is what i love about your father. too much to be done, too much left unsettled, too many injustices to right, too many people needing help. for frank, the thing i loved lovedhim, like me, he the senate. he saw in it the place he could the financialll success he had come all the full the pre-had, all the influence he had in the immunity. he believed in what was right.
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there was no place he could do as much for the people he cared about then in the united states senate. he said it is time, i was there shortly thereafter doing a fundraiser for a new jersey canada, and frank was there, and he said what a big mistake, and he came back. it is fair to say, bonnie, there is nobody happier than me when he did come back. everything frank then shows character. he earned thece, admiration of its friends and political foes alike. look at how many of his colleagues are here today. frank, no one in all the years we served together, no one ever a short-- which is
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thaty, no one ever doubted one frank said something he meant it. no one ever doubted his word, no one ever wondered whether or not he would keep whatever commitment he made herein even if his political circumstances had changed and now it was difficult to keep the commitment. as my colleagues know, the most valuable commodity, the most valuable abdel anyone can have in congress is their word. canaluable capital anyone have in the congress is their word. and frank kept his word. talking about your dad repeating things, i remember why i drive my kids crazy. one of the addresses i repeat all the time is expression used in my family constantly.
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my mother would always say you are defined by your courage, and you are redeemed by your loyalty. you are defined by your courage, and you are redeemed by your loyalty. if frank was your friend, he was your friend. he never calculated how that french a toy -- friendship or loyalty would influence him. he said a friend is someone who walks in when others walk out. a friend is someone who walks in when others walk out. every difficult political moment of my life, your father walked in. he did not walk out. , hey difficult time i had walked in. i spent many my colleagues would tell you the same thing. for more than 25 years that we were with one another, he was always there. frank had courage both physical and moral.
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on the streets when he was a kid in patterson, in europe in world war ii, the downhill slope. i used to ski with frank all the time. that is another story. but watching him. i remember watching him in his 70's after he wanted to go helicopter skiing. ,y the way, helicopter skiing you get in a helicopter, and it takes you about the lift line where the lift does not go on the very top of the mountain where you can not get there other than being dropped off in a helicopter. he wasnot mistaken, doing that into his early 70's. i am told, although i did not do it with them, i am told that as late as three or four years ago he was skiing, downhill being. but most of all, frank had the courage and convictions, and he
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acted on those convictions. frank would even talk about himself sometimes about his public speaking. frank's speeches were not marked by their eloquence, but i mean sincerely, he overcame it with the eloquence and elegance of his convictions. he spoke with principal and purpose. he always spoke with risible and purpose. he was a self-made man who spoke of the poor in the its vanished anyway you could taste it when he spoke it. politics,e he entered he spoke with resounding security ofo the israel, the fate of the jews behind the iron curtain, the rabbis, an abiding awareness of his roots. he never lost sight of the
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fundamental moral commitment we had to the state of israel. he never backed off his lyrical convictions for expediency. in the words of shakespeare, he was a man taken for all in all i shall not look upon his like again. .e was a man he was a real man. [applause] wi-fi's president biden, we all thank you for your musings and beautiful tribute.
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we call on you to speak of your beloved. >> i just want to thank the vice president, thanks hillary, madam secretary, bob menendez. he spoke beautifully. this is an extraordinary gathering for a great man. i thank everybody for being here. just an amazing turnout. he would be so proud to have you all here. i want to welcome governor ,hristie, former governor h mcgreevy, secretary lahood, the entire senate delegation, the pouring out of love forom all of you for me and frank and the
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family. i cannot thank you all enough for being here, all the representatives, all the dignitaries, and a special hug and thank you to harry reid magic.ank you for making you have been amazing. senator reed, frick will be the second senator in -- frank will be the second senator in history to lie in the chamber. lay somewherel that held the casket of lincoln. he will be buried in a military ceremony, including a 21 gun salute. you might wonder why this is so unique. the last world war ii veteran in the united states senate. most people prepare when they want to rest in the hereafter. not frank. he told me he wanted to go to arlington cemetery so his grandchildren and great- grandchildren would come to
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washington and look for his grandfather be so proud that he served in world war ii and was a united states senator. i said frank, you've got to make plans. so when the time is right, you can go there immediately. it could take a month or more if you are not prepared. he never did anything. [laughter] he could not face his mortality and figured somehow it would get done. it did get done. and harry reid did it. miraculously. so thank you, harry, from me and the entire family. [applause] today is a celebration of frank 's life. the only thing that would've made it happier than seeing all of you here would be if this was a fundraiser for his next campaign. [laughter] as you heard, he did not want to retire, and had even well, he would have put up a good fight to stay in the senate.
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he was a street kid from patterson and so proud of it. so what was it like being married to this renaissance man who actually accomplish all those things you saw on television this week? , interesting, challenging, loving, amazing. what a life we had. together over 25 years, married for more than nine, frank was the most positive person i know. he never looked back, he just looked forward and made things happen. he had a vitality and a smile i fell in love with 25 years ago, and i never lost that love. he was my prince charming. fromuld call me everyday the senate, and we with big all the time when the senate was working until the wee hours of the morning, at night, and he was only what was going to be on the front page of the "new york times" the next day. that was pretty heavy because it was before the internet, 24
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hour news. he introduced me to presidents, heads of states, governors, senators, actors, directors, ordinary people who just always came up to him to thank him for his work. truck drivers. he loved them all and treated everyone with the same respect and warmth. .e constantly told jokes i had to listen to the same jokes all the time. and i had to laugh as if i had heard them for the first time. [laughter] he told the same great stories, but over and over. and got offended if i would time and while he was telling it. every time he had a new audience, i would hear the same story. after a while, i hated introducing them to anyone new. [laughter] extraordinary times with frank. like the time we got into a taxi after flying to boston. the taxi driver had a russian accent. frank asked the driver how did you get into this country, the driver says, the lautenberg amendment. frank said, i am lautenberg. [laughter]
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-- theve tarver said taxi driver said no. frank said yes, no, yes. and so it went on. it was so amazing to see how you can make such a difference in someone's life and how much the taxi driver really did.ciated what frank the taxi driver do not want to take frank money, but frank insisted we pay. in aspen, frank had a serious the injury. 30 days later, he said bonnie, i am seeing stars. he went to a hospital in new york. he looked at with a great surgeon. , andd a bilateral hematoma the doctor successfully operated on him. he was about to speak at the timbre of commerce dinner. frank was not going to miss this dinner, philly at his favorite navy suit, a red tie, got dressed to the nine, and that's camera crews to set up in the
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hospital room, and gave his speech with all of the hospital apparatus haiti out of his jacket. [laughter] no one had any idea he was in hospital. i think it is a perfect time to say thank you to all the doctors who helped frank along the way sorry with phil steeg, marty , and thenames holland to all the doctors to care for frank at new york presbyterian hospital. they try to make frank healthy. he could not fight the viral pneumonia. to the nurses and care staff who took loving care of frank. thank you beverly, front, mildred -- franz, mildred. to dan katz and brendan gill, and the entire staff.
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the work was done with this intelligence group of people. cap the engine running. kept good story then and got the dark without fear it i cannot see why enough. and thank you to all the lautenberg staff. he could not have done it without you. [applause] and to linda borchard, thank you for being so helpful to me. you were always welling -- ready, willing, and able, and i'm so grateful for what you did for frank. , heis assistant, eleanor depended on her and respected her ability and friendship for over 45 years starting at 80 p. , and thedan cohen entire staff at park avenue
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synagogue, thank you for this beautiful service. [indiscernible] , intofriend ed torres stokes for your extra ordinary for singingtalent, frank's favorite songs. he lived the impossible dream and always did it his way. to gail curtis, thank you for the beautiful music selection. i love the love and adoration he gave to my children and grandchildren. he was an amazing role model. he was the father they loved. he taught us how to think at a deeper level and stimulated us in a way we had not known prior to his coming in our lives. his biological children and grandchildren are an amazing group who he endorse. -- adores. they are grateful their dad had a family that was geographically convenient. [laughter] throughout his illness, we spent a lot of time together.
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it was a blessing for all of us. when he was finally at peace. we leave here today to go to the caucus, to the train station that bears his name, and we will bring him home to new jersey one last time. it is a sentimental journey that will take us to washington d.c., the country's capital where they served for 28 years. there was not a time where he was driving in washington when he did not say how much he loved his job as senator, even with all the difficulties and frustrations. he felt like he was in the world series every day. his job stimulated and challenged him. frank, i was so happy to take care of you, but it hurt every day watching you suffer. you told me i had done everything for you possible except to give birth to your children but you love me as if
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i did. rest in peace, my love. i will miss you always and thank you for the most beautiful memories and an extraordinary life. [applause] >> bonnie, vice president biden, secretary clinton, senator menendez, to each of the children and grandchildren, thank you for your words, spoken from the heart. each thought and memory is a brush stroke for a portrait of a life well lived, worthy of continued admiration and study, a life whose ideals
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will serve as a bar of aspiration for so many here and so many not here today. as i mentioned, senator lautenberg said each of us will not arrive in the promised land. in that sense, the service taking place on this side of the jordan and hudson has a poignancy verging on the poetic. the torah accounts said the decree was given even as moses resisted. god brought moses to the top of mount. he would have a chance to see the journey ahead. a legend explains it was a blessing of seeing into the future, the compassionate act of being able to see one's legacy extends beyond one's lifetime. the children and grandchildren. the generations to come. on that morning as his life passed into god's embrace, a similar tussle may have taken
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place in the heavens between senator lautenberg and his divine sparring partner. frank knew he enjoyed not just the blessing of a life well lived, but the comfort of knowing his essence would be for a blessing into the future. so, too, today, tomorrow, and the months and years ahead, through our words, memories, and the deeds. we have the obligation to ensure even in loss, the extended shadow of senator lautenberg extends long past this day, and in so doing, individually and collectively, we will ensure his memory is a blessing for generations to come. amen. please rise for the memorial prayer.
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merciful one, we ask our loved ones find perfect peace in your eternal embrace. may his life be bound up in the bond of life. may his soul rest in peace. let us all say, amen. i would ask that everyone remain standing in their seats as the family escorts the casket out of the building. the immediate family toward the capitol police, who will lead the procession. following the family's recessional, i will ask you remain in your seat until the official party has exited according to the directions. the senate on thursday for the senate floor and a burial in the cemetery on friday morning. may the memory of frank
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