questions. then william hague addresses uk intelligence surveillance. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] patrickweek on "q&a," gavin local reporter discusses the media on a variety of platforms. , how would youn describe your job? >> i am a staff writer. i do not cover politics very seriously. i do -- i do my job seriously,

but what i try to do is stories, some of which are fun and some of which are not, but stories off the bleak -- off the beaten track, and i do one-on-one interviews with politico, about their lives, and more interesting cultural stories. >> what is politico yakking -- ?lago? >> a website -- politico and paper.e they have grown into a very large operational base out and they have politico and politico pro, a superstition -- subscription site. to cover politics of excessively incomprehensibly. it is a narrow beat. a lot of news organizations have to cover sports or they have to cover gardening. politico is very

straightforward cover politics. >> you came to work at this town in brookings, but since then, the western examiner, fishbowl, they did not exist 10 years ago. >> the examiner and fishbowl did not exist. it is interesting to watch the evolution. the examiner, now, as it was, will not exist very soon. they will switch the summer to a different format. politico has changed a lot since it began. media bistro and their blogs largely remained the same. the future of blogs is up for debate. for the seven years i have been doing it, there has been a lot. >> what was "fishbowl and why id you go to work there? >> they cover the media world. they have specific blogs in new york, l.a., ndc. they cover the media fishbowl,

as it were. it is not sipped, describing personalities to a lot of media folks, and some are covering news, who got a story right and who got a story wrong. politico excessively focuses on politics and fishbowl excessively focuses on politics. >> does fishbowl make money? >> they do. i believe this was while i was there. they sold jupiter media for a lot of money. a lot of our founder dough. in that regard, i have to say they did make money. they paid very well for me as a salary employee. politiconteresting in

is even if you do not have the largest audience -- this bowl -- fishbowl did not have a big audience, but it was the right audience. to lowsident of cnn, income reporters, they are far -- smart focused. from an advertiser standpoint, that is good. know who your readers are and they are smart. >> you look at the media differently than i do. how do you look at it and how do ou define journalism? >> it is a struggling business in the sense we have seen a lot of movement and layoffs and closing bureaus. what is struggling about it now is figuring out -- for the most part, people know what the future of journalism is. we went through a wave of, everything is free.

now, organizations are exploring paid subscription models. people are realizing the future of news organizations cannot give it away for free anymore. they will how do -- the question is, how do you make money off of it? >? some people do it and go into it with the best intentions, but i do not think anybody totally knows how to make a lot of money off of internet journalism. weare a lot better off than were 10 years ago, where everyone was giving things away for free and nobody had the courage to charge. now we are seeing people slowly start having the courage to charge. >> we have a list of all kinds of clips we put together for the purpose of talking about the in new mediasion

and old media. .his is a clip the webcasts after the show is over, we will run it and get you to talk about these things and if they are mattering. >> hello. "washington week" webcast. , andess is john dickerson pete williams of nbc news. pete, let's talk about one of the stories we did not get on the broadcast. the mortgage broad settlement the white house announced yesterday, whether that is a contribute a factor, they will look at that as they go forward and try to find a ways to fix these problems. >> sticking around to answer your questions for our web extra. >> hello, i am martha raddatz.

i am joined today by former senator olympia snowe. because we believe all politics are social at this week tom we will ask the senator some questions submitted on facebook. the first question comes from carolyn. -- >> the first part was from pbs. the second part from abc. why do those organizations feel the need to extend these programs to the web? >> a couple of reasons. one, they are experimenting like everyone is. can we possibly make money off of it? for a lot of organizations, it is the argument for, why not do it, is very small. -- and i could film a sick a 62nd ad on when this

interview is over and it would cost us sick -- 60 seconds of our time. when you arty have these things set up for programs, to tack on an extra 60 seconds or two minutes just seems to make sense and there is no harm. from the perspective, what you could occasionally find is that it gives a lot of news organizations a chance to do things they are not quite sure they want to do on a broadcast. so you see this on abc's "this aek," where they will do video extra, but it is usually a lot sillier than what they would do during their hour-long broadcast. they will interview pat leahy for the hour, but then they will interview george clooney about celebrity advocacy. it is sort of, it not only gives them a chance to explore a web video, but it also allows

them to protect their main brand, while giving lip service to guests or causes they might not otherwise. >> nothing to do with this website, talk about what you see here. >> hello and thank you for joining us on our nbc news hangout. i am the social media editor here. we are lucky enough to be inned by williams and carry new york. welcome. let's start out. pete, give us the latest news this morning on the investigation and we will go from there. >> the parents of the suspects, the two the fbi believes committed the bombing, spoke today. the father says he will come to the united states. the mother says she is not sure yet. both of them repeat the claim

their children could not possibly have been involved in this. >> we call this a hang up. what does that mean you -- hangout. what does that mean? >> you use your smart phone or camera you have on your laptop or desktop or computer and you participate. it is a higher tech videoconferencing. a lot of people have done that and c-span has done it and politico has explored it, as well. you are using google hangout or skype. the quality is not terribly great but it is very cheap and easy when you could be walking down the street. the nice thing that having quality not that great is the expectations are lower so you can be out on the street as long as you have a nice cell phone connection calling into one of these shows. it just becomes a question of -- what exactly am i adding or contributing? am i putting more noise onto the internet or is

this something i can -- if you are, calling into these google hangout, that is adding value. if you just pontificate in a way we see lots of folks in political journalism pontificate, then the question is, am i adding value or just doing. , called the website mouthpiece theater. this is a whole different take. >> the congressman will be served. the congressman, henry waxman, will drink. the senator will have the old particular. the white house chief if -- chief of staff will drink a bad ale. -- badass and we wilma tell you who is getting a bottle of mad bitch. >> eric and britt, frosty

--lic, red menace big amer amber. >> these guys are serious journalists. why do you think this did not make it? >> he commented about what sunk the operation. he apologized in the post-ad what that illustrates is a couple of things. one, what video allows is anybody to do them. that is good but it can be bad in the sense that typically when you see a network news or people like yourself as well, they are seasoned professionals with a clear track of knowing how to do their job. with web video, you are opening up the pool with a lot of people, which is great, but you risk somebody who may not know what the boundaries are. you also may not have the staff

power to have somebody edit that. that could have easily gone up on the web and through no fault of anybody's, just did not get edited by anyone. problem that the web video allows a lot of journalists, many of whom are very ambitious and can be self centered at time periods -- times. it can be a great risk, as that video proofs. it can be an occasional success story, but a lot of the production quality and humor quality is not as great. >> how many kids do you have? >> two. a2-year-old -- a two-year-old and a three-month-old daughter. we have been able to keep our two-year-old away from youtube. >> what do your -- what about your own habits? do you watch this stuff? >> i am obsessive about

consuming news and knowing what is going on out there. my internet diet is pretty heavy and extensive. i am not proud, but i watch a lot of this stuff. a lot of of it is not terribly compelling. that istain extent, your job, to make you realize a lot of stuff is not compelling. but it is throwing spaghetti on a wall, a lot of these news organizations, and hoping something sticks. for the journalists, they hope they can turn this and segway it into greater exposure for them. >> i remember 30 years ago when we started and we asked to take our cameras into newspaper editorial meetings, and they were aghast. some said, absolutely not. this is how far it has traveled. , withwall street journal their top editor of the

editorial page. >> the obama administration has said over the weekend it is willing to talk directly with north korea. is it moving again down the road of appeasement? paul is staying with me now. news outtwo pieces of of the weekend. this tentative offer of direct talks, and also an offer to cut act on our ballistic missile deployments. what do you make of these developments? >> first of all, i do not like them. the timing is bad. i do not think it was a good idea. >> they now have a regular hour and half of the program on weekends. what of people who have to take -- what do the people who take the time out of their normal day feel about this? >> the reporters do not minded because they love the exposure

and the tv. editors, however, i do not think are always a huge fan. newstially, in most organizations where you see them doing what you saw, they are not paid more for their extra time. this is one more job they need to do in an otherwise busy day. all haven top of, they to tweet and blog. that is on top of their day job. i do see a time coming at some point -- news organizations will essentially say, is this worth our time, effort and money? if so, great. editors will learn the reporters will be missing in action for an hour. or, if it is not, you will see the papers say look, this is not worth our time and money for reporters who otherwise could be making phone calls and doing web video that only 50 people are watching. the workload issue is a real one

real people have to address alreadyreporters are overworked and underpaid in a lot of cases. not only will they become more stressed but there are editors could become annoyed the reporters are busy doing web video all day. -- work for a newspaper and a political website. what do you get the most reaction out of? >> if you do television, and as nbc, cnn, the old media still has a huge effect. if you were to do morning to do youhis child cap -- town, get a good reaction. in terms of people e-mailing you or things like that. certainly more than if i were to do a web video and posted on politico. but i also think a lot of times,

i think just having good story, be it good video and a web article, you still get the most reaction to a story that is actually good. >> i will show a clip of you and dylan myers. what is this? where does it fit? >> it is a new program where dylan is a great media reporter with a popular blog for us. essentially trying to mooch off his traffic, we are doing a weekly web discussion. media issues that a lot of regular readers of his blog would be interested in. >> here is a little bit. half of what it looks like. >> hello. this is "on media." ♪ >> what is the story with russia and the future of radio

for him? >> this -- his contract is up at the end of the year. ever since the episode with the georgetown law student he referred to as a and a prostitute, advertisers have been pulling back, either because they were spurred on by a boycott effort against him, or just because they were uncomfortable with being associated with his brand. the question nobody knows the answer to is how much damage he actually did. >> some people are saying, the loss has been grossly exaggerated. >> right. what happens is, cumulus, which , the ceo comesw out of these earnings calls and wes, because of this issue, took significant losses. from where limbaugh is sitting, he said, i am getting tired of you blaming this on me and

criticizing me. if you keep doing it, i will leave. carew much did the public about media stuff? >> it is surprising. the public cares about the media, but media reporting is popular. it is largely popular by other journalists, of which there are a lot. the media will read itself is set -- excessively enough or you could justify just having a media reporter. that said, i do not think the average american cares about me getting promoted to deputy assistant editor, whatever. but i think the public cares about when the press gets things right. when they do not, they care about what stories are being covered and which ones are not. they care about making sure reporting is fair and balanced. those stories are of interest. you see a lot of media reporters not only covering who more or down, but also

macro issues of media coverage and where it succeeds in where it does not do so well. coming up ofclip alexander trowbridge. >> a young reporter for us who is very multimedia savvy. he does a weekly video on anything. it could be top five celebrities to see at the democratic convention, the top five videos to look for, whatever he has that week. a is a great example of how young reporter can use multimedia to get greater exposure for himself, whereas 30 years ago, he or she would not have been able to. also a great example of how somebody who is young who is tech savvy can use multimedia to generate really good-looking video that is a step above a google hangout. the oneelationship to who used to be a cabinet secretary years ago?

>> i do not think so. >> here he is. >> also they could manage the risk and move forward. it is a matter of following signs. they all leave here. how the world of benches -- adventures -- advances. >> ready for a female president, and hillary clinton plans to run, she will have a lot. >> i do not think it has to be any particular person. >> what if she does not run? when it comes to female contenders, the democratic bench is deeper than you think. five, the secretary of health and human services, the former two-term government -- governor of kansas. she was vetted to be barack obama's running mate in 2008. last november, the register rather that the democrat wish lists for 2016. clinton was number four -- she was number four on the list.

clinton was number one. that is the list of the top five democratic leaders to watch in 2016 who are not hillary clinton. >> a couple of things we cut short, because it was longer, we could not get rid of that ad, which is an interesting thing you find places you can get rid of it and where you cannot tell us the philosophy. >> it is an ad you sell to advertisers saying, original content will run before the ad. it is part of the challenge of ,eb video, that users hate them and i hate them. i cannot stand them. i do not know reporters love them, either. people will walk away from it. when it comes to our video, how else do you make money? that is your version of advertising. i do not know what the future is. maybe they do phenomenally well. video fromevery web youtube on down has that stuff. they are annoying, but people

are looking for revenue dollars. >> youtube brags on its statistics blog that 65% of their ads are skippable. >> that is true. let's say they have a sick -- 62nd ad, after five seconds, you can skip. i do not think you can literally from the second it starts to get rid of it. it is a great thing for them. when most people see an ad, go go to a browser tag and do something. i am hearing something and without knowing. >> they call something an opt dock, which i assume is the opposite op-ed page. we have had these folks on the show, the gregory brothers. here is one we found on "the new york times" site.

♪ >> we will talk about jugs. the whole to repeal war on drugs. it isn't working. we all have to have more. prohibition did not work. protein mission on drugs to not work. .e have spent over $400 million it is a waste of money. , 82% are000 arrests black and hispanics. these arrests stigmatize and criminalize, making it harder to find a job, making it harder to get into school, making it harder to turn their lives around. it must end and it must end now. >> the war on drugs has been a

failure. we are warehousing 60 people everyday day in state prisons. send them back on the street, and wondering why i do not get better. , it isy commit crimes because of addiction. the war on drugs is a failure. the war on drugs is a failure. >> we don't treat alcohols like the -- alcoholics like this. >> they take our video and others video, and there is a lot of interchange from different networks. do you think of this development? it undern get rid of the satire and fair use. that line has been exploited and pushed back over the years. the greg -- the gregory brothers are people who have a

ton of free time on their hands. that will -- the work it takes to put these video together is amazing. they have been able to find a sweet spot of original content, that will get a lot of use and make more money. the reality is the nature of the web is constantly evolving. i could be wrong, but i think the gregory brothers shtick, they cannot keep doing that exact same thing forever. people are always looking for the next best thing. for a moment in time, they have been able to capture millions of users. the amount of times that people will find that sweet spot is pretty small. it is helpful to do it in politics and news media, because that is almost free press. if you do something on chris christie or c-span, generally, c-span will -- they poke fun of themselves.

chris christie will mention it at a press conference. it is free publicity when you are dealing with people. >> when you are at the college of connecticut, what did you think you would be doing with your life? >> i always wrote. a lot of fiction in college. bit of nonfiction. i always thought i would be writing. to leave college, i realized there are no jobs. or accessible ones for a college graduate. and had a bitcher of experience with kids while i was in college. i was able to turn a teaching job into writing clips. that got me some entrée into washington dc . i taught for three years, which

was one year too long. this is what i tell young reporters. you essentially need credibility. no one is going to publish an op-ed by you saying, i am brian lamb, 22-year-old citizen. when i say, i am a history teacher, all of a sudden, the trend times and the princeton packet cared about my thoughts about current events. so, i had that credibility. i was able to build up a portfolio i could then bring down to a much more prestigious place and say, here are the clips i have. in that regard, it worked out nicely. >> why did you come to the bursting -- brookings institute? >> i wanted to get into political journalism. everyone said there are two approaches. one is go out to chat and work for a loc smallapert your clips,

experience, and bring back to d.c. and say, here i am. or, make it happen. i was more compelled to come to d.c. and make it happen. , did actual journalism there and i would cover events like a reporter would cover them. even brookings, many years of freelancing and hustling to try to get my first real journalism "the examiner. it is hard to break into journalism. it is doable. i think it is more doable every day. as long as you're good at it. >> you are sending messages out to be glistening. brookings is known to be liberal and the examiner is conservative, and politico, i do not know what the profile is on it. where are you? >> to be honest, i do not think

a reporter has to say this, i am fairly nonpartisan in the sense that my time in d.c., there are maybe a couple of issues, which i will on the -- i will not alert the american public to, i feel are black and white. like bull riding. i do not get it. i do not get what the argument is. there are a couple of issues i think are black and white, that i do not understand the argument against or four. brookings was a great education. even if you might disagree with one side, you do not think they are mean-spirited or fundamentally dishonest. maybe it is a bad thing, but my time in d.c. has made me less certain about anything than it was before. andgo to a brookings panel

hear both sides and say, that guy has a good point in that woman has a good point. there are a couple of issues in my personal life i do think are black and white, but my time in d.c. has largely made me realize both sides have very valid points but come at it from different loss fees. >> put a go is a part of channel seven, channel eight, owned by a local family. and thehe hard copy website and television and here you are interviewing a familiar face on politico television. >> i am joined by john old -- donald rumsfeld, the author of a new book. everything. >> i have lived a long time. when i first came to washington, in 1957, out of the navy, this was a farm. off key bridge. it was world.

>> there are still farm animals here. ,ou have here, 380 rules lessons. >> if you have rules, never have more than 10. >> i appreciate you violating one of your rules, which is, you never get in trouble for things you do not say. still honoring us by talking to the press anyways. >> thank you peer the other rule is, never say never. all generalizations are wrong, even this one. >> when he was secretary of defense, he would know more come to the studio. >> he has a book to sell now. >> were use prize he would come? >> no. i would say, to his credit, he is one of the politicians that is not press averse. he would take on tough questions. on his last tour, he went on

"the daily show" which is not easy for a gentleman like him. he went on a lewd radio show. the view. he is not a verge -- at first -- and verge -- against going to be interviewed. we graduated to a three camera shot, which is big to us. those things are a great example of web video. and what it can do, in the sense that, it takes a little more manpower. twond there, we had cameramen. you maybe had a photographer taking pictures we would use for the website. then, myself. a pretty small operation. what is nice about that, and this gets back to what was said earlier, we can take of it -- the web video, put it on the web, get the clicks on that, then thegreat, and

text of what we talked about can become the company web article. the text of that, we also have a newspaper to fill. we put some of that in the newspaper. that fulfills our paper obligation and gets it in front of more people. you are able to pot a lot of plants with those, it is nice exposure for myself and mr. rumsfeld, it brands our headquarters as the best nation for people to come in and know they have to do places like c- span, as well. who knows if this will ever make it to the money or not. >> we will depart from the establishment media television to a group that a lot of people watching will know about and a lot of people will not. .his is from info wars.com >> i am alex jones. get ready for another original edition of info wars nightly news straight ahead. >> tonight, danger.

google tells internet users that at infoge report wars.com website contains malicious software. i do not think so. more information has emerged about google's relationship with the government and spook agencies, as the group calls for hearings as to the googles ties to the cia and nsa. professor griff says obama is a mass media deception. the info wars exclusive interview premieres tonight on info nor -- info wars nightly news. thank you for joining us tonight. i want to thank again all the prescribers and viewers that make info wars nightly news possible via prison planet.tv. planet onct a prison the actions of our once free republic. thank you for joining us. >> you watch alex jones.

do you listen to him? >> i do not. no offense to them, it is not on my daily diet of things to check out. he is a great success story and the example of how to use chief -- cheap, accessible technology to get yourself out there. nbc nightly news. >> absolutely. when we were watching that clip from my colleague a couple of minutes ago, one of my first thoughts was, when i started politico four years ago, i was using flip cameras, which, at the time, or cutting-edge. not a lot of people use them anymore. we go back and look at those clips, and they are grainy, not so nice, and now, for the exact same amount of money, you can really get an hd picture. people like mr. jones can benefit from that in terms of being able to turn what could be or basement or a farmhouse

an actual office studio into really professional. >> what is pga tv? >> pajamas media, run by a conservative blogger. >> this is somebody named alfonzo rachel. watch. >> they are the ones always keeping people angry about the past, falsely accusing the republicans of what democrats have done. >> they will put you all back in chains. >> liberals equate democrats for their guilty past and punish public and for a past they are not guilty of. all parts of the democrat death -- characteristics. i reckon if a next-door neighbor can hide three women in his house for years, i reckon syria can hide wmd's. just like charles ramsey was able to uncover the truth about his nasty neighbor, the truth will be the failure of the obama administration him and ghazi. >> you have got some big

testicles to pull this off, broke. bro. >> your reaction? >> it -- one thing it had that web the the -- let videos do not -- web videos do not often have is humor. a lot of people up try that. we have tried that at politico. the comedy world has seen this, as well. people think with youtube, you can post a video of yourself and people will think you are a committee and -- comedian. there have not been a lot of daily show type political humor or parity. occasionally, you see it. it comes down to the whole idea of, when you give everybody a camera, not everybody is camera quality. not -- that tillman is good in front of the camera, but in terms of the next generation of john stewart's, sometimes, the

barrier to entry can be a good thing. >> what do you say to the old- timers who say, this is really bad for this country, all of this stuff yet the video and nonjournalists getting into it? >> there is a case for that. a lot of people are given a public forum who are not -- who do not deserve it. at the same time, a lot of people in the media rose to a certain rank who may not have deserved to be there. i know in my small experience, having worked at various news organizations, you see people, older journalists, who you know would not cut it today. that does not mean they are not good at what they do, but the demands of their generation and hours are very different. i think that older people who

decry what the media saturation is doing to us in terms of possibly being updated and the cost in stream, it is a valid complaint and the argument of, take your time and get your facts right, that will always be true. health care the ruling, the boston marathon bombing, and i think the pendulum swings back forth. now we are at a time where people are reconsidering how important it is to get your facts right. >> the first fellow we saw is out of texas. i think glenn reynolds operates out of d.c.. the next person moved from the east coast, where he was successful on fox news to create called web internet, the blaze. let's watch glenn beck. >> the media is so far gone, it cannot be revived. actuallyington post,"

said this. they said, who is tweeting about benghazi? what are they saying? white tea party members. do you see what they have just done? the president used the film and the filmmaker and american rights in benghazi, tried to say that american rights or americans using their first amendment right in such a way still be ambassador, that the ambassador and three others were actually killed because of american freedoms. that was not true at all. but that is what they did. now, the washington post is responding and fma translate what they said, nobody cares except white christians. america, please wake up. that is the most racist, bigoted statement i've ever heard. >> what sense do you have about

his success? >> he was a huge success out of fox news. hece he has left fox news, might not be on the tip of everybody's tongue anymore, given he is not an fox news, but professionally, he is doing quite well. a lot of subscribers and he sells a lot of ads and is a multimillionaire. thes a great example of dynamic in the media, which is that reporters and journalists are less beholden to the news organizations than they previously were, which is that, what mattered used to be calling up and saying, i am patric with the new york times. if you did not have the second part, no one wanted to listen to you. now, it is really just saying, i am patrick gavin. that means something. if you look at politico, a great reporter could leave lyrical tomorrow and go somewhere else and it really would not change his value.

he could start his own venture, probably, and have a lot of people come. we see this happen all the time. if you are good at what you do, be it what mike allen does or what you do or what glenn beck does, you can take that away from more traditional news organizations and become your own independent person and viewers will come with you because they can, because the internet allows them to. >> what are patrick gavin's 2000 12 viral political videos? >> that was a list we did at the end of 2012, we took a look thate top 10 videos essentially became viral sensations, meaning it could be an offhanded comment, something somebody turned into something funny, a clip from a celebrity, something that caught the attention of the world wide web and went onto millions of views. >> >> here is 50 seconds.

♪ [obama singing "call me maybe"] ["call me maybe" playing] >> do you remember who do that video? >> i do not remember who did that one. there was a clip in there of a congressman having staffers do it in our office, which made me

realize, what is interesting about viral video is that it has provided another outlet for politicians to not really get the message out there but to show their humanity and their sense of humor. they are doing it quite freakily. .hey are real -- frequently they realize they do not have to sit down with the wii new york times and the washington post, but they can sit down onh "the view," a blogger youtube, that is another way of getting their message out sometimes in a way they would much rather. they note "the new times" would be more thrilled, but they and might get more viewers than a "new york times" video. >> here is a clip of the president. i think he was in austin, texas. hugh has a camera crew following him. they edited it and put it on the web. let's watch. ♪

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that? >> that is from the white house is press office. they are popular and well he -- and very well done, but they are a huge source of controversy in the sense that the president has been able to circumvent traditional -- all the shots he saw, some of them were probably, the press was probably invited as well. a lot of them, the press is not beer that is a huge source of contention, that the about -- the obama administration is realizing they can have their own videographer and photographer and put together their own news package. >> they also go live with speeches. >> right. nott of times, in ways given access to, there were

photographer gets a lot of access. it is hard to blame them, from from thespective, but press's perspective, what you just saw is what 60 minutes tries to do, the package of insider access and all these things. now the white house knows. >> what is your guess of what will happen over time? >> it will continue. journalists really hate when they do not get access to the press and they hate it when they do not get questions answered i get that. i also get the white house's perspective, which is, their job is not to help the press. to helpey's job is not reporters. his job is to help his boss, the administration. that is a long going tension that will never go away. >> the press secretary is always saying, my job is to help the president and the press. >> at the end of the day, he's being paid by the white house.

>> the taxpayers. >> true. the person who hired him and fired him is the president. he is beholden to a lot of people but his job is to do the president's been -- bidding. >> here is one minute of patrick gavin from 2006. you have to explain this. saying this in front of c-span, because they are feeling -- filming it. the fact they are here and filming it is great. it is good promotion for the cause in the event. personally, i find it insulting. i'm sorry. i thought we might get pbs at the least -- the very least. [laughter] npr, maybe.

i do not know. it is bit defensive that the best we can do is a network that finds a highlight in newspapers and, must-see tv. [laughter] before i start c-span and steve scully, please do not call more than once every 30 days. click that is so insulting. >> i am so sorry. >> seven minute -- seven years ago, were you married? >> i did not dress, clearly. 10 pounds. i was a little bratty. >> what is that? we have covered a lot of these. is d.c.'s funniest celebrity comedy competition, a huge oxymoron. i obviously did not win, as you could tell. and invited reporters politicians to do standup for the night for charity.

and nevere it twice won. >> the huffington post, how much competition you win at politico with the huffington post? >> politico is in competition with everybody. i would not eliminate everybody. we have political coverage. -- primary dish and is difference is that the huffington post covers everything, health, divorced people, environmental issues, comedy, politics, sports, everything. clinical covers one thing. they do that on purpose and try to do the best at that one thing. so our politics coverage competes with any politics coverage. their job as a news organization is broader than ours, which has advantages for them. they will get people interested in reading about the forces on their divorce page and we will

not. on the other hand, we dedicate s.re resources to our here is, they, are now doing 12 hours a day of video from 10:00 in the morning to 10:00 at night, east coast time. let's watch a little bit of coverage. the internal revenue service has publicly apologized for targeting tea party groups with increased scrutiny, looking into their tax exempt status in the 2012 election. an investigation has been called for and president obama about to hold the irs accountable if the report is true. member's of the tea party are outraged, especially since members first raised suspicion a year ago. could this be just what the tea party needs to re-energize their base ahead of the 2014 elections? -- eat group with me

thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having us. >> you know how this works. jump in if you have anything to add. >> this program is almost 25 years old and it is always one person for an hour. this is how far its long in the last 25 years. we have five guests on a huffington post website. they were using the google hangout. >> for where web video is, they do a good job. aat is one approach, hyperactive, a lot of guests, tweet us your comments, we will re-tweet on the air. it is lively and dynamic.

i think the media world has to offer a lot. you have your show, that, your espn, which is hyperactive, charlie rose, and i think people gravitate towards what they like. that is geared toward a younger, news junkie individual. the huffington post and other organizations also offer stuff, as well. what he is trying to do is offer everybody what they want. >> what do you think will last? flex you have to assume everything will be internet at one point, even if it just means you're old school broadcasting on the internet. portable devices, we're hearing hearing now in d.c., senator mccain trying to get rid of cable bundling and all of these old forms of doing business. the future will certainly be portable but, you see these

things happening where there will be a -- an explosion and people will turn to longform journalism. some things will stick, but i think as people get older, they will probably want more longform stuff. >> i have statistics for you. it is now owned by google. uniquean one billion users visit youtube each month. over 4 billion hours of video are watched each month on youtube. 72 videos -- 72 billion videos are uploaded to youtube each minute. >> a decent amount, not a ton. what is interesting is even youtube is trying to figure out new profit. they are now exploring subscription channels so people

can subscribe to the brian lamb channel for a fee so youtube gets it and you get it. they are exploring things, as well. that is a lot of bandwidth and hard drive space they are hosting all those videos on. youtube is the biggest success story in terms of posting, but they will continue to find ways to justify the amount of free stuff they are hosting on their servers. >> what does patrick gavin want to do in the future of journalism? >> i do not know. i like my job. i will say this for myself, on behalf of a lot of reporters, young or old, which is, i could be wrong but it seems as if journalism is more exhausting than ever before. you see, even with young reporters, especially during campaign season, griping about their twitter feed being almost

unreadable because of the sheer volume of things, or the amount of e-mails they are getting from their boss, campaign offices, press releases, their facebook page, the demands on their journalism. in terms of how the pendulum will swing for reporters, you see a lot earn out quickly. i have not yet. every news this at organization in town. the sheer amount that is demanded on you, the amount of information you have to consume, you have to be up to speed on television shows, twitter, everything. it is exhausting. that is a choice for reporters to make as they enter into the 30s as i am, when the family, how can i dial down the noise and do my job the best i can?

>> where's your home? >> new york city. all over the place. applico?ny people work >> 200. >> if people want to get online, what is the address? >> politico.com. >> patrick avent, a reporter at politico. thank you. , a reporter atn politico. thank you. >> for a dvd copy of this program call 1-877-662-7726. for free transcripts or to give us your comments about this program, visit us at www.q-and- a.org. "q & a" programs are also available as c-span podcasts. >> next, british prime minister david cameron takes questions from members of the house of commons.

then, some of the speeches from the final day of the faith and freedom coalition conference, including texas governor rick perry. at 11:00, another chance to see q&a with patrick gavin. "washingtonon ," the week ahead in washington. the former national security advisor for counterterrorism discusses nsa surveillance programs and the case against edward snowden. and daniel weiss talks about that groups disaster relief spending. >> going as far back as abigail adams and martha washington, you