you have the big sign there, we try to message effectively a college affordability. making sure people can afford to go to college. i am on a road trip from new york to pennsylvania. yesterday i was at the university of buffalo. i visited students at syracuse. later today on the joe biden in scranton, his hometown. i decided to stop here for a couple of reasons.

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paid $12. pay $12, we will not open all all these stores. from the conversation pseudo-logic. through these issues of wages and what people are paid and what is wrong and right about the way we choose to compensate people for their labor. right. i hope we appreciate the fact that dr. julianne malveaux is a graduate of m.i.t. [applause] andwith her brilliance intellectual capacity, she uses her ivory tower genius to come down the of any streets in order to make a difference for you -- to come down to the ebony

streets in order to make a difference for you and me. so i thank you. [applause] salute andelp but appreciatively applaud someone who is often taken for granted, the reverend jeffrey jackson -- the reverend jesse jackson. [applause] gift to us and i hope that we will always be appreciative of the fact that much of what we enjoy is because of reverend jesse jackson. you cannot get excited about the family living in the white house without inking about the fact , 1998 -- 1988 and 1984, barack obama would not be in the white house. [applause] it is important that we learno

read humanize the impoverished. humanize theto re impoverished. we've spoke with a focus about the low wages, the underemployment of government workers. when you visit the smithsonian, when you go to union station, be careful how you treat a lot of because,rs there unfortunately, many of them are making barely above minimum wage ofof -- minimum wage, on top no benefits. , they receive their -- the contractors receive their contracts -- watch this -- because they have the lowest fees. if i give you a low bid and i want to make some money, i will pay low-wage to those at the bottom while still making a

pretty penny for myself. so we came here to say it is an insult that the government, along with mcdonald's and wally's world, have the unmitigated gall to participate payinger put -- in under people. so we want the government to look at its policy that promotes and perpetuates underemployment. here's what gets me. it gets back to the theological. what we want you this weekend as we continue the identity theft of dr. king and romanticizing de the radicalizing -- and radicalizing dr. king is the last speech. when he was assassinated on about any of lorraine motel in the breast pocket of his suit jacket was an outline of a sermon that he was preaching that coming sunday. wasoutline of the sermon

entitled "why america may go to hell." you ain't going to hear that this weekend, but that is what he was going to preach. i wish i could have gotten a hold of that sermon. i don't know what text he was going to use. i decided to use my anointed imagination and give text to it in order to answer your question. the text i believe he would use is matthew chapter 25 when jesus said, listen, at the end, here's what is going down. i will separate the sheep from the goats. he will says that separate nations, not individuals, because often times we get called up in individualistic gospel as opposed to dealing with structures and systems. so when jesus separates the sheep from the goats, he is separating nations and he says, first you give me -- impressions , when tim to see about me

you did it to the least of these, you did it also unto me. jesus is basically saying, if you did me wrong, you are going to hell. so maybe would dr. king was going to preach that sunday was matthew chapter 25 which said america may go to hell because of how we underemployed, because of how we missed treat those who are impoverished. this -- untilash humanizetch this -- re -- you have one political party that treats the poor as a political peon, just beating the hell out of them. you have another party that ignores the poor and renders them invisible. you don't even rehumanize those who are impoverished. speeches aset the long as i stay black, reverend

jackson rehumanizes the poor. there are people who are working in hospitals who, if they get sick, cannot afford to stay in that hospital though they work hard every day. they work two and three jobs to make ends meet. so instead of mislabeling and misrecognizing them as lazy, maybe we need to rehumanizing .hem we have been a good job of bastardizing the impoverished. how are you going to pay may dollars an hour and on top of that i have no benefits yet you judge me? judge me,, before you check yourself because you are on your way to hell because, when you do it to them, you are doing it to me.

so maybe, when we check our poor people, we need to see jesus in every person who is impoverished because, if we see jesus, then maybe we won't diss them and misjudge them and misrepresent them. i think i said something. [applause] rx reverend freddie always says something. -- >> reverend freddie always so something can thank you for that. he talked about employment. people are very happy to say that the implementation is sam .2%. -- is 7.2%. the black unemployment is 13%. a fourth of all black people are either unemployed or underemployed. is there anybody in here who does not know an unemployed person? i didn't think so. it hits our community in a

different way than other communities. this is what dr. king really dealt with. were he here today, i would warn that he would sit outside with the other workers talking about how to help their raise their wages as well and how to not disparage them. this brother is from health of newark. he has been appointed to chair jersey lgbt as well. what i really want you to focus on is that newark is one of these cities, very high party and high unemployment and some progress, but insufficient progress. crumbling housing stocks. how do you make it work in newark and what needs to happen there? >> first, i don't know who it was -- i don't know whose idea

it was to put me behind all of these preachers. [laughter] don't make no type of sense. [laughter] is -- before i began -- an honor to be at this table with all of you after whose work i have shaped my own thinking and your lives. who irotest is shaped have come to be in the world. and i am honored. i want to get to the newark specific question by beginning with a few points that i want to bring up because of context. we are to me about wage and poverty and i don't want to miss the importance of what poverty looks like in america beyond the talking points. that theince the 1960s poverty rates have not dropped below 10%. it is now 2013 and the poverty rate is 15%. one out of seven people live in party in america.

that means 46.2 million people are living in poverty. number, there is what is called the poverty. 20.4 of that number is what is called the poverty. of that, we know that lacks and hispanics are disproportionately impacted. so blacks make up 13.1% of the general population and yet 27.6% of the poor percolation happens to be black americans. five millionr, more women than men are in poverty. of that, children who are born into homes that are headed by women households tend to grow up in much more poverty. women who are in same-sex relationships will tend to be more poor than their

heterosexual black women counterparts. and young people who grow up in homes with two male partners are even more multiply marginalized than -- marginalized and poor. i think for a long time, we have a monolithic idea of who the black poor happened to be. we carried a long time a modest understanding of blackness. veryecause we have a monolithic idea of the black community, it is hard for us to understand that, just because we are ball -- we are all lack, it doesn't mean that we will all show up at the same amount of religion. privilege.of religion i'm looking at a table where most will identify as straight. if your lgbt, that means andian, bisexual, gay

transgender, they will be been deeply more impacted by poverty. we haven't even talked about the disabled, age, all these other things and i think the reason why we failed to make inroads is because we have been trying to handle a very multidimensional and successional problem with monolithic solutions. so if it is true that all of our lives are vastly -- we are all black, but we all show up. one of the things i have come to understand as a person who identifies as a gay black man from new jersey, poor having to fight homophobia, having to fight the ideas of what it means to be a black man growing up in ae hood, having to grow up in home with a single mother with a all of these things sort of

created the type of life that i would live and absolutely makes my life as a black american and little more and if rent then people up on this panel. so i think many of us have come and we have done the hard work of answering the question of whose feet is situated on our next. -- our necks. we know what racism feels like and what capitalism feels like it could we know that come in this room, whose feet is your situated -- whose feet is your neck situated on. we can talk about racism and economic deprivation and what we can do to deal with it. that unless we deal with the fact that sexism still exists, homophobia still exist, 40% of homeless people happen to be never fix what is

deeply wrong in our communities. and then do something about lifting the feet up. that means acknowledging our look,ege such that we -- these dudes -- many of us have come a far way. we all have privileges -- if you imagine your life to be a vehicle and privilege can be imagined as a safe that you have in your vehicle. but you're driving on a road with as much privilege as you have been as much space to bring you with you when you're driving, we need to go back and pick people up. the reason why bring this up is because of good to nor can we is done onlyewark black and poor and just by virtue of folks showing up as women, gay, lesbian, bisexual, disable, our roach has to be in

response to the particular needs of those various communities. thework has told me what black feminist has taught us to be intersectional. and may be marginalized oppressed as a black man, but my yister will be multiple marginalized, and you add being get to that, you will be tripley marginalized. 100 times reaching for whatever a mayor craddick idea of america might be, it will be that much ericratic idea america might become it will be that much harder. so whose neck are your feet situated on? [applause]

>> brother darnell, one of the organizers of the march on washington, he could not be acknowledged completely as a gay man. one of the main people who put this together could not be acknowledged and there are so many of our brothers and sisters, no matter what their identity is, you talked about the differently abled, not talking that our seniors. 60% of the african women who are old are in poverty or near poverty because of their lifelong experiences. we didn't talk about a lot of those things. unfortunately, we won't get a chance to talk about them. but i want people to keep that in mind and when we deal with issues of inclusion, he had to take some time to think about all of our people. a couple of points before i turn this over -- in 1963, there were about 18 million black people.

1.3% of the american -- of the african-american population in 1963 came against all odds. there was no place for them to stop and eat. although you know most folks had some chicken in a brown bag. [laughter] they had nowhere to stop or anywhere to relieve themselves. in parts of the south, they had to put the kids down under the car because you didn't want anybody shooting at you. these people came against all odds. flipside, today, there are 44 million african-american people roughly. by some estimates and they are always just that, 100,000 people will march tomorrow. and probably fewer will come to the justice ringing ceremony on wednesday. 100,000 people over the 44 million people represents less

of a percent of us. we just get on an airplane or a train or whatever. you don't have to worry about something to eat. although the airline food is dangerous. [laughter] you can relieve yourself anywhere you want to. and yet, we come essentially no odds and fewer of us come. so we'll have to think about that and we can have a conversation about that. but i need to bring into the recession -- this is really his conversation -- my brothers, my friend, our leaders, the reverend jesse jackson, who gives this party thing in a way that nobody does. push on a saturday, the reverend will preach up a storm and the choir will sing

up a star. maybe someone will get a and give up -- get up and give up the quarter or something with zeros behind it. but you talk about everything from eyeglasses, education to international issues. words, reverend jackson, like dr. king connecting the dots. many of us are sitting in silos talking about food or talk about -- it is always or. i don't know of another leader in our nation who puts that intersection now he -- intersectionality together or someone who systematically brings to the table women, younger people, people of color i'm a and every now and then you say, rev, and he listens. so many people gets to the stage and they can't hear anything. you know who i am?

reverend jesse jackson knows exactly who use. and one of the things he is is a leader who brings us to where we .eed to be her so i leave it to you. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you. [applause] thank you, this is a better mic. i am inhted as , iroaching this topic today want to talk about a person who whogerman this agenda on --

has driven this agenda on potter poverty. a lawyer, scholar, activist who has decided to live modestly and live the gospel that she is thousands. i want to give her a hand. janice mathis. [applause] give her a real big hand. [applause] janice is a serious scholar, lawyer, activist. i also want to thank [indiscernible] who also has a great sense of our people. dr. julianne malveaux. [applause] while i want to express thanks to all of our panelists and to give their panelists a

hand. [applause] thank you. i want to recommend all of you to get the book "the politics of jesus" by dr. ober hendrix. it will take you beyond constantine's diversion. it will change one's outlook on jesus and the role of people against the wall. you will get to see dr. howard and in a newest and different light in contrast to american anarchy as opposed to religion. >> the book came out in 2007 and it is still selling. it on amazon.t you can get from barnes & noble. but you can get it from amazon easier. we talk in these sessions, we must have some

reading, literate, philosophical base or else we will just be blowing. somet people to come to degree of preparation. i will but to take you, if i if we are to pick up the baton that he dropped, there is the dream of 6-3. it is very different from the dream of 1968. it was not a static drain -- a static dream. in 1963, the dream was to overcome abject humiliation. d.c. had an appointed mayor, not unelected one.

airport, train station, and the stations were under military lockdown. when they came in 1963, the close all the liquor stores for the first time since prohibition. put all police on 18-our patrols. 1963, you had in black officers for the cause for the first time. this was led by president john kennedy, five aces in this area area.e bases in this all judges had to get on schedule to be at readiness to handle all protesters. 1963, if the militants were

to challenge the stage that they would cut off the speaker and jackson come on. he had the whole world in his hands. i can document that. i have it before me right now. those who came that day, from florida, from texas to they could not use a single toilet. on that day, black soldiers had to sit like pows on a military bases. in a horn and harry belafonte would not saying as an act of defiance. in the holidayom inn even with the money. we couldn't i ice cream just because we have the money. couldn't buy -- we ice cream just because we had

the money. there were no jurors in the south. and when you came across state lines, they assumed you were going to washington, therefore you were profiled. getting their food for mother double dates and their fried chicken which they brought with them to eat. treeseft the car and the because they wanted to hear that day and they came and heard him. but that was some of the makeup of that date. needing,s last staff -- staff meeting, he called dr. andan on a saturday morning reverend abernathy called us around 9:00. i didn't want to come to the meeting because we had a

sunday.ket meeting that i said i will be there. 7:00 got to the airport at , just time enough to miss the plane. i know, that is why i got you a 7:30 ticket [laughter] and we got the next plane. and dr. king said to about 12 of that i amsomething, having trouble this week. have been in a deep depression , a migraine headache, he said. i thought maybe i should quit to i have done as much as i could do in 13 years.

vote andhe right to open housing on the way. my friends have turned against me. my classmates. in -- was sentnt to the press and the whole letter was published in "the new york times." they attacked me because i say that we would -- we should not being gauged in war. i will speak, he said, and i will be heard. but i am paying a great race for it. i remember saying, dr. king, don't talk away. he said, be quiet. don't say peace, peace when there is no peace. let me finish. all of us got very quiet. then he said, maybe, if i would past the point of death, the wrath and others of us who are friends would be able to agree

on strategy would come to my bedside and not let me die and incould regroup right then our pain and suffering in a nonviolent way. we turned a minus intuit plus. andan go into washington engage in civil does obedience. go into washington, we are the resurrection and building the tents and shanties and shacks and we will stay in washington on the mall. from thecity was lincoln memorial almost to the washington memorial. and when the president comes back, he has to see us. washington toto focus on poverty in which the bombs dropped in the unum

because -- in vietnam because of neglect. because of the structures and poverty, we drop party down from 32% to 12% by investing in head start daycare. we wrought poverty down by targeting the unemployed. we brought it down by bringing in head start and also ringing in medicare and medicaid and strengthening social security. we brought it down by bringing more public housing and affordable housing. in other words, they were the pivotal forces of the last century. and it pains me to go to the democratic convention in charlotte and they mention reagan's name more than lbj and mlk because no president compares to lbj except for maybe lincoln. lincoln because he won the civil war and ended slavery.

a u.s. president would not lyndon johnson. those are two pieces of social legislation for medicare, medicaid, daycare, abolition --t she was smart enough -- he was smart enough. he opened up the war on poverty in appalachia. most people in america are not black, not brown. they are white, female and young. whether white, black or brown, we all matter. by flattening the base of poverty, you had to de- you hadized the base to right-wing congressman voting for food stamps.

dealing with the structures, the move by government to drop bread instead of bombs. -- it is a way of saying that flesh and blood is significant. the powers and principalities, the different level of structure was applied. publicnot offset a major school closing with your private charter school in your church. [applause] as old --st this is those who haveas no blood finish -- no blemishing will bring them here [indiscernible]

i will bring them over and i will put them on the king's table, the kings menu and i shall teach them the kings language and the kings menu. contemptuous of where they came from. the issue is not to make three smart boys get smarter. the issues for the rest of them. the issue is not canned some kids do better in some schools -- of course they can. it is not our dream equal, high- quality public asian occasion for all children. beware of who you are leaving out when you are leaving out the poorest of these. thedo know there were overseer of the occupied people. they are out in the country somewhere. roads,here were no paved

kids going out of nazareth -- the point of one had the biggest mission. and the biggest ones had the smallest mission. you know that is the result of my face, you know. not by romans empire or by who got a job. but how we treat other people. i am trying to say this year. i am trying to say that dr. to dieposition, willing about and four, we got the right to vote. the people are living in trailers. we are cutting down public housing and building private housing. what about a plan where no person will fall beneath a level of education, health care, and jobs? that therevision was must be a floor beneath us where

no one will fall from the faxes come education, and jobs -- from health access, education, and jobs. [applause] that somethinger is missing. what does it mean when there are -- 2000ction and 200 dealerships and 200 black? it doesn't mean when there are 4000 gm dealerships and 36 are black? what does it mean when we bail out gm and the automotive industry and not reinvesting in anything else? what does that mean -- does that mean something to you? i mean in terms of structures? and you know how to keep the dealerships?

they allotted territories before we had the right to vote, that you cannot buy the territory allotted. so they have perpetual ownership of the territory. what does it mean when there is zero coca-cola franchises? when there is one small pepsi franchise? you with me so far? what does it mean when we $700 billion and gm goes broke? when we talk about getting up in the morning and working hard, we are talking about capture. [applause] world -- all the country has prisons for profit. ,.5 million americans in prison over half are african-american.

in georgia, they are building plants on prison grounds. work --da, they make they makers are's work for $.75 an hour. i want you to think about structure. what will the government do? we do not come to washington for motivation. we come for appropriation and legislation. [applause] that we wouldpe be clear between me and my government. [indiscernible] with all these profound

preachers, we have a plethora of inspirational speakers. we need affordable housing. [applause] as wallthe same bailout street. and that is government, i think. come onsay to you today this war on poverty, if we come out of here this week with the one of revising the number -- number one, the constitutional right to vote. revive the war on poverty and don't surrender. loan debtee, forgiveness. number four, revive the u.s. commission on civil rights. , wherever there is a

government contract, eeoc and contract compliance laws must be honored. thank you very much. >> give it up for reverend jackson. [applause] ok, folks, that concludes our panel. dennis mathis has instructed us that the next panel, which is on the voting rights act, begin immediately. you want to take a minute or two to stretch her legs, but only the room. but don't your legs, leave the room. >> all ministers, please stand. all clergy persons. [applause] writtenive them a hand -- a hand.

sister janice. [applause] orderly could make an transition, we want to thank all of our pal in this -- all of our panelists. our personal hero. let's pose for a group shot and bring our next panel up. congresswoman sheila jackson-lee is in the honest. congressman hank johnson. hilary shelton. way towardsake your the stage. >> on the next "washington journal, those quote richard fry looks at the cost of college and whether or not education is with the money. after that, lance lucena on the 50th anniversary on the march on washington and modern civil rights challenges. thus your e-mails, phone calls and tweets. live at 7 a.m. eastern on c-

span. >> today, from the steps of the lincoln memorial, the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. speakers include the reverend l sharpton from attorney general and the families of emmett till and trayvon martin. following the speaking part of a program, they will march i the martin luther king memorial to the washington monument. after the march for melissa to live interviews with reporters and attendees on c-span radio. our live coverage begins at 6 eastern herea.m. on c-span. >> this week, representative debbie wasserman schultz, chair democratic national committee. here is a preview.

, as i am sure you are aware, they suggest that wiener'sconduct and conduct have undercut the democratic line of the war on women. how do you answer that? pointing yout by toward the 18-point gap that president obama and democrats enjoyed among women voters. about women's issues, women support emma craddick issues in print -- support democratic issues and president obama. axis to reproductive health services without interference from the government. we support making sure that we have the strongest possible top quality education so that our

children can get the best education and grow up and be the important next generation leaders of our country. we support making sure that, when it comes to childcare, that women have an opportunity to go to work and balance work and family recently. those are all things that republicans have quite literally done everything they could to derail the policies and convictions that are most important to women in that matter most to them and. -- matter most to women. so the war on women specifically relates to policies that matter most to women in this country and the republicans are trying to detract from the fact that they are completely wrong on most issues that matter to women in this country. the results of the election last year demonstrates that and will continue to demonstrate it. >> you can watch the entire interview sunday at 10 a.m. and 6 p.m. eastern on c-span.

[captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] if we turn away from the needs of others, we align ourselves with those forces which are bringing about this suffering. >> you ought to take advantage of it. >> obesity in this country is nothing short of a public health crisis. >> [indiscernible] when somebody had their own agenda. >> i think they serve as a window on the path to what was going on with american women. >> she becomes the chief of compromise. >> many of the women, they were

writers. they were journalists. cases, ire, in many likely more interested in human beings than their husbands, if only because they are not first and foremost defined and limited by political ambition. >> edith roosevelt is one of the un-hung ciro's -- unsung heroes gam. when you go to the white house today, it is really edith roosevelt white house. >> too much looking down and a little too fast. >> the first lady really does whatever fits her personality and her interest. >> she rated her -- he later wrote in her memoir that, i, myself, never made any decisions. i only decided was -- what was

ant and when to present it to my has-been. that is a lot of power. >> part of the battle against fear thatto fight the accompanies the disease. >> she transformed the way we look at these bugaboos and made it possible for countless people to survive and to flourish as a result. i don't know how many presidents realistically have had that kind of impact on the way we live our lives. around the white house grounds, i am constantly reminded about all of the people who have lived there before and particularly all of the women. >> first ladies, influence and image, a c-span original series

produced in cooperation with the white house historical association. season two premieres september 9 as we explore the modern era and first ladies from edith roosevelt to michelle obama. >> oklahoma senator tom coburn held a town hall meeting. they talked about the healthcare law, privacy concerns and second amendment rights. this is an hour and 10 minutes. >> you good? good afternoon. we are on time. welcome. it is good to visit with you. i will be a little slow this evening. this is the fifth one i have done today. bear with me. it drags you down more than you think. i will not spend a lot of time talking, but i do want to hear from you.

there are a lot of concerns in our country, not any of them unsolvable, but they're big and problematic. if i were to assess where we are today, i would say the constitutional republic we have is at risk for the very reasons our forefathers talked about. the abandonment of constitutional principles, especially the enumerated powers. it has created situations where we find ourselves leaving a legacy to our children i certainly cannot be proud of and i know most of you will not be proud of. our unfunded liabilities right now are $126 trillion when you add them all up. that includes the $17 trillion that we owe plus the rest of the

unfunded liabilities. essentially, the game is up. the problem is we do not have any visionary leadership in our country in either party that will stand up and talk about what the real principles and problems are. we have undermined self-reliance in the name of being charitable. we have abdicated personal responsibility in the name of being fair. we are following in the footsteps of whatever historian has noticed about every constitutional republic -- they do not last. the reason they do not last is because we concentrate power in the central government and give away freedom and create fiscal

policies that undermine the economy that supports the growth and vibrancy of our country. i think they're all solvable. the questions i ask publicly and privately is all of these big problems, why are we not addressing them in the congress? i hear from oklahomans about the fact that we need to work together. i have an observation on that. we're going to have an $800 billion deficit this year. congress approved that. i would say we're working together too well. [laughter] we have agencies rife with fraud that congress has agreed not to do anything about. i think we're working too well together.

our biggest problem, in my estimation, is not our country and not our people. it is the elitism that comes from career politics that dominates our congress and our country. [applause] i was asked today and am asked a lot about what we can do about it. throw them out does not work unless you replace them with people that are different. 70% of the senate essentially has never had a job out of career politics. they are wonderful people. i get along great with dick durbin. i like him as an individual. our philosophies are entirely different. he means well, as well as many

of the other people that promote what i would consider policies that will undermine our future liberties. the thing is they lack a frame of reference from experience in the world like our farmers sitting over here that know, like our insurance agents, our policemen that are here to have done something with their lives outside of elective politics. it does not do any good to throw them all out. i have been convinced, in the last week or so i have read a book called "the liberty of amendments." i used to have a great fear of a constitutional convention. i have a great fear now of not having one. 3/4 of the states would have to approve anything approved through that. i do not think there is a lot of

danger from our republic in us taking back control from washington and honoring the 10th amendment, enhancing federalism, and recreating a sense of personal responsibility and accountability at the individual, city, and state level. i had a fire chief get upset with me today because i do not see any role in the federal government for us to be buying fire engines for states and cities. the danger with that is you become addicted to the largess of the federal government who says they're giving you something but are actually stealing it from your children and grandchildren. i do not think we have problems we cannot solve. we lack leaders thinking long term and understand what makes our country great or has made our country great is the very

fact we enhance personal responsibility, hard work. we do not condition dependency more so than what is needed, rather than to create an environment where you do not have to help yourself. i am thankful each of you are here today. we have had a big turnout at town hall meetings. we're talking to the choir. you would not be here unless you were concerned and had an interest in it. we're going to do questions. i will try to answer to the best of my ability. we have one rule. we do not let go of the microphone. i learned a long time ago if i let go of the microphone, it may be 20 minutes before i get it back. i will go as long as you want to be here. almost as long as you want to be here, until my blood sugar get

so low that i will go eat some ribs. that is not a commercial. that is just my favorite place to eat in town. who wants to ask the first question? we have a microphone right here. >> i appreciate your being here. if not for you, we would not have any senator at a town hall meeting. you touched on the topic of wanted to hear about, personal responsibility. there is no accountability in the government, ok? you come up with all of these great research papers on fraud and waste. nothing happens. the constitution does not seem to matter anymore. obama, i cannot work with him so i will do it this way. nobody seems to object. the only people punished were --

>> i am going to make you get to a question. >> my point is let's not talk three years to the next president. what are we going to do in the next 12 months to correct the course? are you going to go on his show and talk about his book? >> right now, i am out of favor with the levin show because i do not think it is a smart strategy to shut down the government to defend obamacare. our economy is so precarious right now. shutting down the government will not stop obamacare. it will continue to roll out. we are limited. a couple of points i would make. republicans control the house of representatives. that is 1/6 of the total government.

we do not control the presidency, we do not control the senate. according to recent court decisions, we have very low influence on the elitists on the court. it is hard for us to do things. the second point i would make is when they do those things, as a u.s. senator, i do not have standing in a court of law. i have letters out right now chastising the justice department asking why they have not cooperated with the government accountability office. by law, they have to cooperate. except this administration is refusing to do so on multiple events across multiple agencies. i think in a lot of ways, they are loyalists in terms of their -- they are congress. irwless ion terms of the

behavior to congress. the leadership in the congress, especially the senate, is designed for short-term political gain, not designed to solve the problems of our country. the reason i can say that is the numbers i just gave you in terms of our unfunded liabilities, you would think we would be addressing those issues. $100 billion a year in fraud in medicare. i have three bills that i cannot get considered. i know something about health care and insurance and medicare. the point is my desire is great. my ability to continue to push boulders up is limited because there are not the votes there to help me. we have great people. i love mike lee. we differ on the shut down strategy. he is a great patriot. we have 20 or 30 guys like him. but that is not enough. --til you change to is there,

there,ou change who is you are not going to change. i do not have a great answer for you. i will keep fighting and oversighting, keep putting out reports. i have offered more amendments on the floor than anyone else combined. i held more bills and appointments than almost anybody else there. my first rule book is the u.s. constitution. it is not the republican party. it is the u.s. constitution. we will keep fighting. but remember, the press is not balanced in this country. here is a bias, a hard left >> there's a hard leftward bias press. so, even though we put it out there, it never gets covered. next one. for being here today. it feels the first

to one of these and this is the first time i have been out to hear you. proud of whether you do for our state. how you represent us. there were 100 like you. i'm reminded, because i have few years, when strom thurmond said a million ere, a million there, pretty soon we are talking about some real money. talking were still about a million here and there. now we are talking about illions and getting desensitized about money, where whatnot.nd e have a debt limit coming up next month, actually in october. we pay ourinded that bills and that this is not to spend, it is to pay what we have already spent. point.the whole when are you g