eastern, representative aaron schock, republican of illinois, and bbard,entative tulsi ga democrat of hawaii. ♪ with they are dealing necessity of raising the debt ceiling by mid-october. good morning and welcome to "washington journal." we will look at bipartisanship in congress and distinct efforts on that. we will tell you about that in just a bit but we want to start the program asking you about the

importance of bipartisanship in congress. you can join the conch -- you can join the conversation this you can also join us by twitter, facebook, and e-mail. we will get to your call shortly. we are looking at several different bipartisan efforts in congress, that will be our focus and we will give you a chance later for open phones as we wrap up this morning. congress is facing the issues of the end of the fiscal year and raising the debt ceiling and reporting on that from politico, here is the headline --

republicans will meet later today. on the issue of the debt ceiling, the treasury secretary, jack lew, was at the economic club of washington yesterday to talk about the impending debt ceiling and the necessity of raising the debt ceiling and the discussions going on in washington. [video clip] timing a debt ceiling

discussion till the last minute could be disastrous. if congress is not actively was suddenly cannot pay its bills, the repercussions could be serious. the impact on families and businesses could be significant. investors losing confidence in the full faith and credit of the united states could cause damage to our economy. failure to raise the debt limit or even an extended debate on the merits of doing so likely is a self- in 2011 inflicted wound that can harm our economy at a moment when the recovery is strengthening. no credible economist or business leader thinks defaulting on the full faith and credit of the united states is good for job creation or economic growth. we understand congress choosing not to pay the government bills is unacceptable and can hurt our economy. consider the words of another treasury secretary, james baker, who served under president reagan. faced with the threat to our credit, he told congress " a failure to pay on what is

already do will cause serious harm to our credit in the financial markets, and arse just -- our citizens." this should be an unthinkable event. never in our history of the united states have we defaulted on our obligations. congress has always lived up to its responsibility to protect the nation's credit. those in congress who think default is an option claim it is possible to protect our economy by simply paying the interest on our debts while stopping or delaying payments on a number of other legal commitments. there is no way of knowing the irrevocable damage such an approach would have on our economy and the financial markets. host: treasury secretary jack lew from yesterday and there are discussions in washington in the follow-up to the shooting at the navy yard monday which killed 12. here is the headline in "the atlanta journal-constitution" this morning --

they have a photo of the washington monument with flags at half staff. that's from "the washington times." --k to bias partisanship back to bipartisanship in

congress -- here is a tweet -- ralph is in new york, first on our democrats line. caller: good morning and good to see you back. i was thinking back to 1964 and the civil rights act. mike mansfield was the majority leader in the senate and everett dirksen was a minority leader in the senate and they both sponsored the civil rights act. i don't think you will see that kind of art partisanship anymore. the house republicans are too extreme. to shuthink they tried down the national labor relations board, i don't think it will happen and that's my comment. host: thank you, rochester, new york -- picayune, mississippi on our republican line. caller: i would like to remind you that this is what our

forefathers put into effect for checks and balances. we have the country divided now, almost 50/50 and half the country does not want us going into more debt and the other half does. this is what our forefathers put into effect. we need to do some cutting back before we keep increasing our debt or we are going to go bankrupt. that is simple economics and that's how it is. host: thank you. this is from "the washington post."

here is antioch, california, independent line. wish everyone would keep in mind one thing -- it's not that the other side is just wrong but my side might be wrong or anyone's given side. god has not tapped anyone on the shoulder and given them the truth. what i would like to see happen

is that they can wait a year on the implementation of the health care. time, thee republicans could agree to fund the government but fully fund the implementation of obama care. that's really all i have to say. host: thank you. we are joined by telephone, good morning. guest: good morning. this what is going on with scheduled meeting this afternoon with house republican conference? what decisions do they have to make? guest: all eyes are going to be on the house gop particularly after the reporting last night that it looks like speaker john ,oehner, according to sources is going to move forward with

putting a bill to the house floor that would include the language that would block healthcare law, the the affordable care act, the so-called obamacare. the two threshold questions before anyone goes further is -- does that turn out to be what the house decides to do? the second question is -- at what spending level is that done? dollars --88 alien $988 billion spending level? that was in a proposal from about a week ago. the $967 going to be

that is in a proposal that a number of house conservatives have already drafted? that will be the first threshold questions. which number and does it defund obamacare? host: on defunding obamacare, that was part of a discussion last week. the plan was to offer this continuing resolution that was also pared. what happened than the madelican conference that them have to raise the white flag and go another way? plan, whichriginal i heard was fairly well-liked on -- that does not

necessarily bode well for some people in the house among the republicans when the senate says the plan is ok -- what they wanted to do was basically to get into a situation where it was not going to have been in the bill itself. technical,ting too they basically were going to have a situation where it would have required the senate to hold a vote on defunding the health care law but that would no weight in peril -- in peril the continuing resolution from passing the senate as is and going on to president obama without actually defunding the health care law. what sounds like what will happen now is they will try to move forward with something that

would require quite a bit of to getng in the senate rid of the defunding of the health care law and choir the bill to go back to the house for further consideration. that compresses the timeline. host: this discussion of the cr - neither the house nor the senate has passed a spending bill? aest: right, the house has number of their regular appropriation bills but they ran into a wall once they started dealing with domestic spending or nonsecurity spending. process just, the never really got off the ground. democrats in the senate contended it because there was objection from some of the same senators who are leading the

defund obamacare push. some of the same senators were conference onto a a budget resolution with the house without some preconditions that the democrats were -- thought were untenable. host: how many more working days in the house and the senate? guest: the number was almost moot particularly in the house. at this point, not everyone ofects, barring some kind miraculous agreement, that the house will begin next week. that is actually a scheduled recess for the house. there is already talk, at least in the house and if necessary in the senate, of weekend work, because of the way the calendar falls this year, september 30, the end of the current fiscal

year happens to fall on a monday. i would not make too many plans right now for the weekend of the 28th and 29th. host: you can follow his work at "roll call.com." back to your calls and comments. how important is bipartisanship in congress with these discussions underway on the end of the fiscal year? our democratic line is next. caller: thank you for taking my call. we needit definitely bipartisanship in the house and the senate. it seems the tea moneyand all the big special interest groups, they are making it impossible for republicans to go center towards the democrats to make any kind

the sequester -- everyone agrees it is a bad thing. nobody is willing to budge to where we can get that out of the way. it scares me to death the way everything is in the world. theyational security -- if cannot get through that, how are they going to get anything else done? it scares me. host: rochester, new york, republican line, thanks for waiting. caller: thanks for taking my call. partisan -- the bipartisan is very important. the republicans have a problem in that they are being pulled too far right by people like rush limbaugh and laura ingram and those kind of people. rush limbaugh once the republicans to fail so that he

can have the democrats running things so he can yell and scream about the democrats screwing things up all the time. theother problem is that has not been running under regular order for years. there are many decent center of the road democrats that would have loved to work with the republicans and cut down spending but harry reid won't let them because he won't let regular order to avail. that is a big underreported story. if we would get back to regular order in the senate, and have rush limbaugh say republicans are oh k instead of telling everybody how rotten they are -- he is barack obama's best friend. rush limbaugh wants barack obama to be in office so he can make more money. it sounds crazy but that's the

truth. that thether issue house and senate have to deal with is the farm bill. the food stamps and nutrition assistance programs -- this is the headline in "usa today." there is a likelihood the house will take of this legislation again in the coming days.

back to calls -- new york city, independent line. what do you think of bipartisanship in congress? caller: you have and ask one show. i am a professor. let me give you an observation of president obama. detroit declared bankruptcy.

the president has spent all of this capital and all this time going to the congress to bomb syria. these insurgents are funded by indi arabia and the rockets and men and ships and so to $10oing to be up billion. what you see with the chinese -- i see it in the university -- the americans -- the chinese have sent around the world people to get business, to get jobs in their country. we have spent, over the last 10 up to $122 years, trillion to send our military worldwide. let's not jobs. that's really an expense. one last point --

outurope, it was brought verizon ofretaps by new york organizations and the un and the eu's office brings back the time of watergate. thank you very much. you have an excellent show. .ost: as a related fallout from the nsa story announced the white house to yesterday. here is a note on syria from the front page of "the new york times." \

also, al jazeera has a different take --

east brunswick, new jersey, democrats -- good morning. morning, i would like to say that the republicans keep going up against president obama since he has been in office. it's because their main objective is to try and get him out of office. he has already won two elections. the american people have voted him in. this occurring they are trying to create to try to mess up the president, it's only hurting the american people. it is hurting the country and creating a dysfunctional government.

so, by going after the president , the result is we all pay the price. feel that it's a shame that we've gotten to this level of bickering and hostility towards each other. we need to really look at to make betterry decisions as far as our leadership are concerned. that's basically all i wanted to say. i think the president has tried to help the american people as every time he and does, he gets slapped in the face. outmany times can he come and ask the republicans to meet

him halfway? host: thanks for your comments. here are a couple of twitter comments -- here is south carolina on a republican line -- caller: good morning, sir. i appreciate getting a chance to talk. this deal with syria, i yourt understand that if are going to strike someone, why in the world would you tell them what, where, when, and how? that is one of the stupidest things i have ever heard and i am retired military. served withed and i

many wonderful officers. i cannot visualize. you are not owing to tell the opposition what you are going to do. why would you? to say you're going to have a very small strike -- i think you are setting yourself up for even more problems. shootingt know who is these chemicals for sure. they don't know who the opposition is. host: take your comments and apply that to the issue we are talking about which is partisanship. the president came to congress seek support on the military strike. was that the right move? caller: it was the right move. i think he has been so indecisive

on so many things and changed his mind so many times, you don't know what to think. i don't trust him and i short don't trust that guy from russia. i cannot think of too many people especially on the democratic side -- if anything goes wrong, the first thing they say is is is the revolt of the republicans. -- it is the fault of the republicans. i prayed that obama would be a wonderful president. i thought he would do right by the american people but he does not. he spends more money you can shake a stick at and we cannot afford to go to war anyway. host: this is from our independent line from connecticut -- caller: i have been voting libertarian. i prefer a pluralized government instead of bipartisanship. we would be much better off.

the government gets involved in is a disaster. college education used to be affordable. everything the government does is a disaster. thereason is because government does not work. american people are so twisted. that's what happens with public education. i'm expected to believe a bureaucrat in dc can fix healthcare? give me a break. we are in so much trouble in this country. it is so pathetic. thomas jefferson said it best -- the natural progression is for government to get bigger and liberty to waiver. limited government

works best. that in america anymore. we are doomed. they are a bunch of pathetic morons who call c-span. host: some comments by e-mail -- let's go to tampa, our democrats line. how important is bipartisanship to you in congress? caller: my name is rocky. how are you doing? that i'm 65 to say years old and have it in

political the last half of my life. i used to vote for the person and not the party although i have always been a registered democrat. since the conservative republican right has gotten so the last few years, i will not vote for any republican because if they get in office, they don't do what the conservative right does, they are not elected. if they bring down the government like they say that some of them want to do, it will hurt the world economy and hurt us. it seems like they don't care. all they want is their agenda and nothing else. there are some good middle-of- the-road republicans. they are afraid to do what they want to do because they know they will not be reelected. i think it's time for them to not worry about getting reelected and do what's best for this country. and i calleda

marco rubio's office every other day and let him know what i believe. the republicans were saying that andon't want to go to war we are following what her constituents want and when it comes to common sense gun control, 85% of the people want some kind of gun control and the republicans will not have anything to do with it. host: let's move onto our republican republican line in tonawanda, new york. hi, i am calling to say that the government is set up so we have different opinions and right now we have two major parties and some of the people are wild eyed dreamers and some of them believe they they are realists. is ank what we really need strong leadership to bring these people together.

and to find compromise instead of taking sides. that's my opinion. i think we need some better leadership so that we can find compromise. host: you think it is a leadership issue on both sides? caller: i absolutely do. we need a good leader to bring people together and then we can reach compromise. i believe there is leadership issues, definitely, the leadership needs to look at how to get the people together and stop taking sides. we have two very strong different ideals going on here. one of them is more dreamy and sort of draw the line and realism. there has to be a place in between would be better for everyone. host: thanks for your call.

we are asking you this morning about your view of how important bipartisanship is in congress. independentthe budget office of congress released their long-term outlook for over 25 years. term outlook long- in terms of spending could not basis spain's. [video clip] line remains the same as it was last year -- the federal budget is on a course that cannot be sustained indefinitely. baseline which largely follows current law, we project that federal debt held by the public would rise from 73% of gdp today, already high by our standards, to 100% of gdp 25 years from now. the before incorporating

harmful economic effects of the rising debt. to be sure, the deficit has past few years. shrunk hermetically during the from nearly 10% of gdp in 2009, year.ut four percent this we expect under current law, the deficit would decline further to about two percent of gdp. doug elmendorf, the director of the congressional budget office. they also reprised -- released a report on poverty.

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--'s go to houston, texas betty is in texas, good morning. caller: i appreciate you discussing congress getting along this morning. my husband is a war wounded veteran who is catastrophically injured in a hospital bed at home and them not getting along in washington seriously affects catastrophically injured war veterans. by not getting the health care they need and the medicine and supplies they need. nobody is discussing this. host: i think we lost that he in texas. we go to houston, texas, on our independent line. caller: hello, sir. i just heard that lady speaking and i am a veteran as well. i understand where she is coming from.

i have become an independent. i grew up as a republican and then a democrat. what is happening now in our government is populism. it's not important that the people speak. the people giving them the money to speak. the lady just said, her husband was hurt in the military. i was in the military. now i am unemployed and no one is trying to help us. they are worried about themselves and how they can get votes. that's all i have to say. host: we are talking this morning and asking you about but partisanship in congress. came out withl the approval rating of congress last week --

they say the number is up significantly from 14% last month and is the highest since any month of -- since october, 2011. we go to erika in alabama, democrats line. how important is bipartisanship? caller: it is very important especially in congress. we all have to work together. the way that people are throwing president obama under the bus, they have to realize that this country did not have these problems for years ago. they have to realize it has been going on for a long time. when it's all said and done, the american people have to work together. that's what we are known to do. congress has to put their tried

to the side and help the president. when it's all said and done, the president is the president. he is the person that can say yay or nay. he says look at what i am doing, do you agree? instead of people bickering back and forth, they need to sit and talk with each other. they cannot just say i am a republican or democrat or independent. we need to work together. host: thank you for that comment. her independent line is next. caller: that's exactly why i switched to be an independent. i'm tired of the infighting between the republicans and the democrats. appears, instead of playing " hail to the chief" we should play " from russia

with love." host: what about bipartisanship? i'm not going to offer any comments from an emotional standpoint. i want to be objective about this whole thing. as far as congress being bipartisan, i would hope for that i will not hold my breath. outlets, these media places like c-span and cnn should try harder to do more. an instant with bill kristol and i wondered why we have to get this guy on their nonstopme with diatribes he spews out like he has diarrhea of the mouth. obama getspresident

out and speaks about one of his measures or what he is hoping to do, after -- not just the state of the union but whenever he has a major press conference, we have the opposite side rolling out three different groups of people to counteract what he is saying. consequently, every time the american people hear the president speak, they hear a mixed message. they here three times as much information from the other side and that's just my observation. host: thank you for calling in. this is a these in "the national journal." let me flip the page as we read inside this story --

this is about the debate in the senate over a separate piece of legislation on energy. debate on the energy bill continues and the senate. let's go to our republican line

next, in birmingham, alabama, good morning. how important is bipartisanship? atler: thanks to you guys thanks to brian lamb for bringing this c-span channel to us and giving us the only open forum in american now that is truly unfiltered and thanks to you guys for being on. can be bipartisanship good, can be bad. x-democrat. again -- i am a born-again ex- democrat. 18.ve been a voter since i volunteered my time over the years on and i am a baby boomer. workdelighted with the

that error alabama delegation has done, particularly jeff and all the other guys from alabama. bipartisanship is good when ideas are hashed out and something real and true comes together. compromising your basic rent supposed, which is what i think the democrats have sold us down the river, i feel this is not the 21st century. this is something like during the civil war. when we were the seventh district, military district after we lost the war. -- we were occupied for 15 years and we know what it's

like in the south to live in a y .eated country tumm and it does not feel good. our eyes are open. obama was elected twice, good for him. , i'm sorry buts i don't agree with the majority of his policies or his politics. host: we will get one more viewing bipartisanship, centreville, virginia. caller: good morning, sir. i believe bipartisanship is very important for our congress. only the congress but across the country as far as the state of marriage and things of that nature. there is too much discourse. we live in a contrarian society. too much discourse always will put you in a state of poverty and it puts you in a state where

it is hard to climb out of. if you for listening. have a good day. host: we appreciate all your calls. coming up here on "washington journal congo we will be joined by two members of congress from opposite sides of the aisle who are working together to pass legislation through congress. they are both of arizona. later, congressman arun shock and gabbard will talk about the future caucusing that developing solutions to issues facing the millennial generation. journal" continues. ♪ >> when helen taft became first

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inre is a headline we saw that said you are the arizona couple. you are working together on issues to benefit arizona and other issues. how does -- how did this partnership come about? guest: we represent most of rural areas and we come from large families that are bipartisan. we have talked about it. we have democrats and republicans in our families. my mother was a republican growing up and i always said it made her very interesting dinner conversation. guest: i have always told the story that i am the first of 10 kids, five democrats and for democrats and one independent. my wife met our family called her mother and said these people hate each other. once you are elected, you represent everybody across the board and good legislation is good legislation.

working on behalf of getting people back to work -- copper is one of our five c's that we were founded upon. that is an important thing to people back home. host: the issue of getting elected -- the two of you faced each other in an election several years ago. you are clearly on opposite teams. the town ofvercome the campaign and how does that shakeout? guest: we put that behind us for the good of the people in arizona. we have been working together to get things done for the people in arizona. going back to the rural areas, people understand that they may disagree on issues but you got to get along. that's whatutely, politics is all about and that's what our framers looked at. they wanted people with different voices but they wanted you to truly be, particularly in

the house, representatives of the people's house. host: we are talking with representatives from arizona about bipartisanship. our phone lines are open -- copper -- about tell us specifically how you came together on this issue. why is this an important issue to arizona? new issue and a has been put forward by several congresses getting this land deal which would result in the third-largest copper reserve in the world. it would bring almost $1 billion to the state of built -- arizona. you have to work with different entities. this is more of a complex land

spot because it deals with many different entities, roughly 2400 acres is what they are trading for. getfederal government would 5400 acres of very pristine conservation, highly priced areas. what we have been doing is trying to make sure we listen to the people within the districts and different communities and trying to get something that can work for everybody. we ultimately want to put people back to work. these are jobs they will -- that will pay well. people are investing in america and buying cars and homes. that's how you get an economy rolling. host: how do you overcome the objections of groups like environmental's who are prone to support democrats. there was a town hall you both did together. you said you had people raising protests and they wrote that you said the mine is a spark plug

for the community. au said this can be diversified growth for the economy. did that satisfy environmental critics? guest: yes, we got a good response at the town hall from the people there on these issues. people live in that community and have lived there for generations. they are concerned because they want a good environment to raise their children and grandchildren. they have a lot of questions about what the impact is on the environment. givenanswers can only be to them if we do the proper studies. i do support that. host: how much of a factor are things like ratings from environmental groups. ? also ratings from conservative organizations on grading how you

vote on specific issues? guest: i don't pay any attention to ratings. i listen to people in the district. it is a diverse history. i listen to folks on that's where i grew up and try to find that common ground. byst: i have been challenged one of the big conservative groups when i ran for reelection. one of their proponents that ran against in the primary last year ran against me. what is your solution? america deserves solutions to our problems and getting people involved and mixing it up and having the fortitude to dialogue with people. i don't look at scorecards. i weigh the evidence and make sure that people in arizona and their districts and people of the united states are moving forward and getting them behind us. host: let's hear from our viewers -- our republican line is first. caller: how are you doing this morning?

there is something going on up there that i don't understand. they have another jobs bill and all this and the stimulus. it seemedt that and like denmark. $100,000 to new zealand. money goes to germany. million to great britain. $200 million. it's early, 12 point 75 million. how that going to fix our bridges? where are you getting your figures? off the joe biden recovery thing. look at it and you will see.

foreign aid? guest: we are talking about stimulus and this is probably money being invested back-in the community and that's what creates jobs. i understand the concern because i'm on the veterans committee. taking care of our veterans is not a partisan issue. trouble providing benefits for veterans from iraq and afghanistan and vietnam. need to address that issue. we need to take care of the folks here in the united states. host: what is your sense of how things will move forward on the budget? guest: it's going to be interesting. we will see how that plays out as the cr and the debt ceiling.

have we backed ourselves into a corner? interesting to see what actually is put on the table. how does the aspect of obamacare -- it is behind schedule and not ready for prime time and how does it fit in? host: is it frustrating that the house passed some of the spending bills but you cannot get work done on the fiscal year spending bills in time? guest: the biggest concern i have a sequestration. i would like a cr that deals with sequestration because it is hurting our schools and our national parks. we really need to address that. it will continue. those are cuts that will continue year after year unless we address that. guest: i would say we have to get back to regular order. we are from rural america.

people do budgets and the have to stay on track. congress has to stay on track. i am a believer in having a short-term cr and go through our budgetary process and get back to regular order. i think that's what a lot of people would like to see. there is a lot i can bite off as long as i have an open log and have a chance to look at the numbers. host: we go to bay city, texas, hello. i wanted to comment on the bipartisanship thing. i thought the democracy was posted be built on multi- partisanship incident bipartisanship. is whole two-party system bleeding it dry. too many cattle and not enough bowls. everyone wants to sit -- everyone wants to fly under the same flag. we should save multi-partisan. on the system.nt

what are your comments on that? multi-partisanship -- other voices on capitol hill? guest:host: thank you for your . multi-partisanship -- other voices. guest: we have built coalitions. i think that is what it is all about. we should be inclusive, not exclusive. earl districtfrom or what is yours like? is a guest: it is like the big arm that comes around. district can place each to the city of phoenix. host: congresswoman kirkpatrick?

all the way from utah down to the mexican border. host: christina. if you choose. independent line -- massachusetts. independent line. caller: i come from a democratic state. you talk about getting continuing resolutions. they have not worked, so why keep doing the same thing over and over? we have to pass budgets and keep going. i question to both of you is with the bipartisanship, i have watched congress do stuff, the senate fight back and forth, he donot work together -- you not work together, and you keep americans fighting with each other. do you picture us becoming two separate countries?

that is what i am waiting for us to see happen. the congress and the senate are actually fighting with the american people. i will listen for the answer. host: thank you for the call, christina. see peoplestina, i trying to work together like congressman gosar and i are. we realize we are all americans. one of the concerns is whether we will shut down government. i am opposed to that. i think that is irresponsible. maybe the continuing resolution is the next best step, but it is not the best step. we need to sit down and negotiate a budget like we do with our families, setting priorities, our principles, how we want to spend our money -- that is how you do a budget and we need to do that as a country. host:, and gosar?

-- congressman gosar? guest: congress mirrors what america looks like. we come from different backgrounds. i hope we do not raise the tensions while we talk. understand to communication is the first aspect -- start talking and addressing these things. set you free. trust is a series of promises kept. start simple, honor promises you made with the american people. that is what leadership is all about and that is what i think is lacking in washington, d.c. for: we set aside a line arizona residents.

a couple of editorials have been praiseworthy. beyondid they want to go the bickering of partisanship and more of congress went that way, the favorability rating would be higher than its current abysmal state. how do your efforts sit with your leadership. republican side first? guest: i have told everyone i am a dentist impersonating a politician. i am one of two dentists in congress. we were sent to get work done. notre for the people,

exceeding to them. it -- dictating to them. it has ruffled some feathers. some consultants have made terse comments. they actually called ann the enemy. she is a person of this country, a citizen who has an opinion, not an enemy. in this regard, we have close to the same opinion. we have been able to bridge that, a teacher we are moving forward in an aspect that benefits -- making sure that we are moving forward in an aspect that benefits people. host: how about you? do you get much pushback? guest: this is about making progress. calling each other an enemy is not how we make progress. i have been called an independent democrat in congress because i put my district first and that is what i'm here to do. i represent a very rural

district. we are always fighting for our fair share. louis onora, colorado, our republican line. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i wanted to comment on this bipartisanship. i think it is good you are doing this show. i watched with interest yesterday. steny hoyer from maryland was on a political show, and every chance he could he put in a jabber or took swipes at republicans, or somebody in the senate or the house, and after i was done watching that, i turned the channel and here is a reread doing the same -- harry reid doing the same thing, taking shots at republicans sentence after sentence. there is no wonder there is no getting along, so to speak, and

that is why things are not getting done, especially in the senate, i believe. i'm glad you guys are doing the show. these are two good people. if more people were like that we will be moving in the right direction. host: are there times where your leadership makes it difficult for you to work on the things you get done together? guest: first, thank you to the gentleman for getting up so early in colorado to watch c- span. course, thates, of i may not completely agree with the president or leadership because i am putting my district first. that is the way it happens. there are 435 people in congress. think about the last time your family tried to go out to dinner and you try to decide where to eat. that is the kind of negotiation we do on a daily basis.

host: it goes -- guest: it goes back to family squabbles. we have to stop the infighting and get back to fact. you can solve a lot of things when you take the emotion out of things and bring facts. facts set you free. host: independent line. william thomas st. paul, minnesota -- william, st. paul, minnesota. you, c-span. i wanted to offer a comment on bipartisanship. the first caller asked the question about foreign aid. neither one of you address the .ctual question nice lady asked the question, and you went off on some tangent ,bout -- i do not know

something. it had nothing to do with foreign aid. that is a problem in congress. we are looking at really low sides of the same coin, both republicans -- two sides of the same coin, both republicans and democrats. ip exists,partisansh but until there is another party, there will never be bipartisanship. in arizona, you cannot seem to reform right.n i like to know where both of you stand on that. host: let's follow up on the comment on immigration, since you have not touched upon that cared where are you on immigration? guest: i think we need immigration reform. i think having a limited committee viewpoint and amendment process on the site

for -- senate floor is a good bill. i want the american public to have open dialogue on smaller piecemeal aspects. you should then need to pass something to find out what is in the bill. share the aspects with the american people and allow them to integrate their ideas. immigration is so important that it needs to take its time. security, visaer reform, guestworker programs -- is are important, but keep it simple, very germane. we have asked for this. a lot of people talk about arizona having a problem with immigration. you have to know its history. arizona is always asking questions. you might not like the answer, but they have the fortitude to come forward with questions. there is a problem with immigration and we need to

address it. glad about arizona asking the question is today we are talking about immigration reform. if it were not for arizona we would not be talking about immigration reform. host: was the issue of immigration on the top of the list in terms of your august recess with town halls? guest: it is one of the reasons i originally ran for congress. i was frustrated congress was not dealing with it. i appreciate senator john mccain and jeff flake for their leadership's in crafting a .ipartisan effort it is a bipartisan issue. that is how we are going to get it done. i seven immigration advisory group. it is a very broad spectrum, ranchers, farmers, business people, and dreamers, faith

groups -- sit around the table and say what makes sense? , we arerizona commonsense, pragmatic folks that want to get something done and the way we do that is to find common ground. host: the issue of immigration is front page of "the arizona sayingc" this morning this date expensive drivers license program to all migrants granted deferred action. in terms of drafting legislation for the house or congress, how closely have you spoken to the state governor, jan brewer? guest: quite a bit.

we have had tragedies that have brought us together with the yarnell hill fire. that has been important. federal interaction with state and local municipalities. that is one of the things rural america is good on. with city councils and chambers. i think it is important that the chief executive officer, the governor, you ought to be in step with where they are going. when i talk to her and my constituents, jobs are number one. it is not immigration. people want to be back rebuilding this country, having their say. immigration was not number one, not even number two. jobs and jobs were one and two. arizona.'s hear from

charlotte is a democrat. welcome to "washington journal. caller: good morning. i have been watching c-span for a year or two, and i am very happy and fortunate to be on listening to ann kirkpatrick and mr. gosar. thank you. froma native american arizona, and i am very proud of you to be working together. the other one is basically the knock on arizona on the navajo reservation -- the infrastructure needs development, and i am very happy to hear that you, as partners, are working together. is thet that i also know immigration policy -- i didn't senator jeffsee flake and senator mccain working

together because we are one country, one state, and the way i feel is we are diverse. at the same time, i feel we depend on our leaders to work together to make it the best for arizona. the part that i want to really explain is infrastructure. unemployment is very high, and i the ability as leaders to help us to go forward. host: charlotte, thank you for your call. guest: thank you for calling this morning, getting up so early. you are absolutely right. huge- infrastructure is a issue for us. i grew up on tribal land. many parts do not have running water, electricity. school buses -- charlotte, as

run on dirt roads. we have had a lot of rain. we have communities that are flooded out. no cell phone coverage, and indications. -- communications. it is a huge concern. host: you were speaking now i'll? -- navajo? how much territory is that in your district? guest: is a good question. probably about half. if the same -- host: same for you? guest: not as big as hers. host: she also mentioned unemployment rates.

guest: a can be as high as 70%. what you cans of pass to affect native areas, what would that be? guest: paul said it was about jobs and getting people back to work, and that is exactly right. it is the one issue that unifies rural arizona regardless of whether you are in my district or his district. one of the things people do not realize is we do not have broadband and cell phone coverage in many areas. when we talk to businesses about locating in arizona, they say we talk to corporate offices with broadband and internet, and we do not have that, we are starting with very basic infrastructure. guest: arizona is huge. the original district one was bigger than the size of pennsylvania.

when you are on the road, you are on the road. there are a lot of public lands. in some cases it is wonderful to have great, open spaces, the one these,s maintenance on you have to be able to drive from one place to another, and that happens and it is interrupted when you have big snowstorms or rain. it is automatic. -- it is problematic. host: republican caller. john. caller: thank you for the opportunity to speak on c-span. i was wondering about the lobbyists that you hear obama talking about stopping that process. i want to know how much you think personal agendas or the

which issituation, worst against bipartisanship? thank you. guest: i am a believer that everybody should have a voice and you should hear everybody's voice on issues. it is up to us as members and representatives to balance that, make sure we're doing the right thing with that expertise. the president has made the comment that he wants to limit that, of the problem is actions speak louder. we have not seen that. when you are a lobbyist in raising money, you have better access to the administration. i do not think that is right. it gets back to what is good for our constituents, the people workhome, and how does it in the fabric of getting people back to work and functioning on all cylinders. host: back to arizona. phoenix. steve is an independent there.

caller: good morning. i know the topic is but talkingip, about illegal immigration, one of the parties say we cannot send them back, that would ruin the economy, and the other would back, itnnot send them would ruin the families. were breaking the laws, so they do about separating their families, and you can replace 11 million people overnight because in trucking we have a 100% turnover rate every year. kidding, askedam for the statistics. that is my point. the people that are legal, there doing what is right, but the laws are getting passed to supersede them and make lawbreakers benefit. people like congress

explain to me how it is that we who are illegal and should be representative -- represented are being overlooked for those that are not legal and illegal hirers. guest: there has to be a pathway that allows people to earn the right to be citizens and our farmers are very common sense and pragmatic. up with acome solution, at least in terms of agricultural workers. they have submitted a bill to congress ss if you can show you are employed in the agricultural industry, -- that says if you can show you are employed in the agricultural industry, you can have limited status, and you can choose whether you want to become a citizen or a visa to work in the country. we are listening to those pragmatic, common sense ideas. it has to be earned. you are right about that.

republic" andzona a picture from one of the town halls you did in august together. this is largely focused on the issue of the coppermine. wh brought you together on this issue and tell us how well it was received for the audience there? guest: it was a packed house. is a little town of less than 1000 people, and i think well over 400 people showed up. unemployment is very high. host: superior, your district or your district? district, itin my is an area that has been copper mining forever. when you talk to folks, they are , fourthck, third generation. that is what they do, what they care about, and we had overwhelming response. the purpose of a town hall i

reminded you and in my first firm. townhall, i ran legislation in my first term. paul ran legislation. native americans have sacred sites. we took that out of the land exchange. when we put the slide up in the auditorium, you could almost hear a pin drop in the room because people said that has been a contentious issue. these representatives right together. that is out of the land exchange. host: where is the billion the process? guest: it is ready out of the natural resources committee. it is sitting poised possibly this friday. you might see this coming out of the house this friday. this,e cosponsored senator flake and senator mccain

have done this on the senate side. it is time to get this over the hurdles. asng back to how we do this, at,has things she is good so do i, and when people have ae chance toask -- to ask question, and maybe it is better for me to answer or ann to answer,or people were sitting back going wow. host: bottom line -- this bill passes, what are realistic expectations on how many jobs it creates? guest: over 4000. this is real money. it is not investment money from the federal government. this is private enterprise producing something.

-- each ofike copper those windmills that you see as five tons of copper -- has five tons of copper. copper is huge in the new technology aspect. copper is king and we are importing 30% of that. this could take a big chunk of that, produce jobs, and when you have resource money, it circulates in your state. take $1 billion and add it into your economy. it is a big deal, and a bigger billion world arizona. host: california. san bernadino. democrats line. thisr: this is my take on -- we had an administration that set the country ablaze. the people that we voted for -- we voted a new fire chief, and the administration does not want to let us use the hoses. that is not a partisan.

bipartisan -- bipartisan. is going ahead, letting us fix the country. all republicans have to do is come together and help us fix the country because when their administration was in there, it went bad. now we have a new fire chief. the people overwhelmingly voted for a new fire chief. immigration, my feeling is you wanted cheap labor, and now you have a lot of cheap labor. now, they do not want them here, but they want their votes. hows really sad to me people said and ignore -- set -- the truth.ore

my mother told the right is right and wrong is wrong. host: thank you. for calling and expressing your opinion. i would like to go back to paul's comment about jobs and the project we are working on. my work, my vision for arizona is a diversified, stable economy, and this bill is a spark plug. all,s not the end-all, be- but as paul said, over 4000 jobs, and is a huge jumpstart. it does not stop there. we need to bring in other industries, address the infrastructure needs. the price of copper comes and goes. when he comes and goes, but at the end of the day we need to have people working -- money comes and goes, but at the end of the day we need to have people working. host: in reaction of the navy yard shooting on monday, what

have you heard from constituents and any calls for congress to take up gun legislation? guest: my district is very pro- second amendment. here you have some of the strictest gun laws in the united states, and you still have a shooter. that is not what the second amendment was all about -- restriction. what we want to do is proper ownership and making sure there is stewardship. the second amendment is a strong amendment that allows you to have the rest of your amendments not quartering the military, to looking at all of the freedoms that we have. if theyy want to see want to make sure there is common sense application upholding the rule of law instead of adding more rules and regulations that restrict that ability. --t: congresswoman picked congresswoman kirkpatrick, what are you hearing?

heart goes out to the victims of the shootings and their families. these are folks that went to work that day, and i cannot get it out of my mind that they went to work, doing their jobs, and they did not return at the end of the day. i have heavy grief in my heart for those families. i want them to know i -- they have my sympathy. in terms of what we do about newtown, i started talking with folks in my district. nra members in my district. i am a rural hunter. i grew up hunting. we should strengthen background checks, crackdown on illegal gun sales, but the real issue is mental health treatment. oncee now finding out at again we had a shooter that had mental health issues -- finding out that we once again had a shooter that had mental health

issues not being addressed. host: glendale, arizona. nick is an independent. guest: a quick point on the gun issue. i'm originally from chicago, one of the most restrictive gun places in america, and i do not need to tell anyone what the gun rate was like. having grown up in the inner city, i never knew someone that did not have a gun. gun laws are silly. i feel in arizona ash i live in arizona and i feel safer. -- i live in arizona and i feel safer. back to jobs and cooperation, i find it funny. for example, foreign aid -- we are poor here. i am on disability. i broke my back four years ago, and my senators and congressmen can easily take my money away from the, send it to egypt,

israel, all over the world, but somehow forget that i am here. also, a quick point -- i wish you would agree on syria. christians are not need to die at the hands of al qaeda of senators and congressmen are sending money to al qaeda. is the irony lost on anyone that manning is in jail for informing al qaeda, my congressman send money to al qaeda every day? they call them the free syrian army, but everybody knows they are al qaeda. people have said they are only a small percentage. 15%, i think john kerry said, but here is the point -- manning was accused of giving information that al qaeda could get. congressmen of my or senators being arrested for

sending money, weapons and aid to al qaeda? that is what they are doing. i have family in syria that is trying to be freed and al qaeda terrorists. host: nick in glendale, arizona. thank you for your call. we will get a response. guest: i agree with nick. i introduced legislation that we do not support enemies of this country that hate us. if you do not agree with the peaceful aspect of upholding civil liberties and human rights, you get no money, and you should not get any money. he also brings up an aspect of our failing economy here in this country. we have a government that is out of control. too big. we have to empower people to be part of that solution and get government out of the way. one of the things that i do all the time is go over -- all over

our state talking to business owners, municipalities, consumer groups, and one of the things they say is arizona is ready to take off. we could see growth rates of four or five times what they are today, and the biggest problem is the federal government is dictating to us instead of fostering areas where people have an opportunity to succeed. that is the biggest problem. we are bogged down in a government. half of america believes in the nanny state, big government, 50% believe in personal accountability and responsibility that built this great country. we have to have an idea of where we are going. america has to decide. in thei also here question the concern about national security and privacy -- how do we balance those things -- how much piracy are we willing to give up in terms of security? that is a conversation we need to have as a nation and really

talk about that. where are we comfortable in terms of how much privacy and security we want? that is something we have to talk about. --t: on the issue of privacy the front page of "the new york times" about five more minutes without representatives from arizona. it's go to eric in california. hello there. the public in line. -- republican line. caller: good morning. i hope you are doing well. right now, i believe we are in a marriage between liberals and conservatives, and i believe this marriage has to end. i used to believe in

bipartisanship. minority, i have been called a sellout by people from my own race, that no self respecting -- hispanic should vote for republicans. the more i hear that kind of talk, the more i dig my heels in , and i am fed up with it, basically. so, that is all i have to say. to i. -- thank you. host: eric. people, ande all what we are talking about is putting people over politics in terms of good ideas. solutions, good ideas -- regardless of where they come from -- that is what we are talking about. we are all people, all americans. host: we have talked about the

copper issue and immigration in arizona. are there issues in arizona were in the west that you do not hear much coverage about but have national implications that either c-span or other media outlets do not cover that you think should be brought to national attention? guest: absolutely. i sit on natural resources, and talking about the interaction of the states that have large swaths of federal land. our schools get less than one half of the money that you get east of the mississippi, and part of that is because we have large swaths of public land. it has to be a win-win situation for the western states. we are always here in forington, d.c., begging what we were promised would support our schools. royaltiesa lot of the exchanged for resources and

timber harvesting -- ecb's big fires in california -- a lot of that goes -- you see these big fires in california -- a lot of that goes to kate-12 education. no is not an answer. reallyon the east coast do not understand what the western states have to manage. we spend a lot of resources maintaining those roads and our costs comparative to everyone's involvement. arizona and western issues -- do you agree with that guest: -- with that? agree, and i'm happy to have paul on natural resources. there after the yarnell hill fire. were still smoldering. we know how important it is to address those issues.

forest support the restoration initiative which is a job creator and protects communities from wildfires. guest: if you take for example, the largest arizona fire on record, we spent hundreds of millions of dollars putting the fire out, lost $2.5 billion of assets. -- of the spotted i'll spotted owl population burned up. is not one reason it the ground is because of government bureaucracy. think about all of the benefits that come from a healthy forest. the benefits -- think about all of the benefits that come when you are managing resources properly, when the resources go to education. it is the process of science. m.love ste

i am part of the educational process on science and math. it has to be based on fact that we have to move forward and get answers on the question. host: one more call. roberta. massachusetts. independent line. caller: good morning. i would like to get back to the topic of bipartisanship in congress, and i think there is a problem right there in the wele, and the problem is have a two-party system where the politicians care more about the parties and getting reelected than they do solving problems. the only solution i see to this problem is to have term limits. to know, elected politicians one longer-term so that they are not constantly running for reelection and that they need

their party's support to do it. the other thing i would suggest to voters is if they live in a state or whatever district they are in, if they know the election is in the bag, vote for a third-party candidate. h eithert vote for bus time, and i did not vote for the democrats because i just cannot stand these parties voting in lockstep. host: roberta, thank you for your comments. on term limits, how do you feel about that? guest: let me say, roberta, you are not alone. i hear this frequently, and the fact that the constitution says members of houses of representatives have to run every two years might not make sense anymore. i hear that commentary frequently. guest: i am not in favor of term limits.

if i cannot solve problems, i will show myself the door. you will not have to worry about that. it comes down to americans being involved in the aspect of governing. in sometown halls, and cases where there is an issue that is controversial, like immigration or obamacare, a lot of people will show up, but the day-to-day aspects, nobody really cares until it really affects them. america has to be involved in the aspect of politics. you have to start looking your presented as in the eyes. i like running every two years. is it frustrating, absolutely, but it is the people's house, and you are much more in tune. just because there is a third- party, it would not make it better. you should be looking at the caliber of the candidate, the teacher the person you are putting there is a album solver. that is what is the problem solver. that is what is frustrating.

-- problem solver. that is what is frustrating when you do not solve anything. as a dentist, for 20 years, i was a problem solver. dentists, paulo gosar, and ann kirkpatrick, thank you. we will continue our discussion on bipartisanship talking to aaron schock and tulsi gabbard. we will talk about issues facing the millennial generation. first, an update from c-span radio. >> the gunmen that killed 12 people at the washington navy yard monday had obtained a security clearance that was good for 10 years. the navy said aaron alexis was not a stellar sailor, but gave commanders no indication of the serious mental health outcomes

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industry. created 30 years ago. now, you can watch us in hd. "> "washington journal continues. byt: we are joined horsewoman tulsi gabbard of of the and cochair congressional future caucus, and republican aaron schock of illinois. we are talking about millennials and issues facing particular millennials. welcome to both of you. congresswoman gebhard, what is behind this? guest: good morning. thank you for having us here to talk about what we are excited to launch today, this futures caucus that we thought needed to happen to start conversation among our colleagues to build

relationships and bring about solutions to problems that do not just affect us next week or next month, but looking at the next decade or generation, bringing in people from outside as well, adding them to the .onversation people that are doing the work on the ground to see how we can look at innovation within what the government does and also the community. host: what is the number of the other representatives that will be joining you? guest: it has grown from the time i came to congress five years ago. us under theur of age of 40 and in january we 20 republicans and 20 democrats, and what tulsi gabbard and i have seen is an opportunity to bring a group together, who are singularly focused on bringing solutions,

rather than hearing themselves speak where the process. i think they are more ambitious in finding solutions. whether it is infrastructure, education, dealing with the debt, these are things that oftentimes in washington, d.c., we talk about them, how to find a solution for the next year, but even the budget that we score on spending only covers a 10-year window. when you plan for your own life, you plan over 30, 40, 50 years, and our federal government has to do the same thing. host: congressman aaron schock, you came to congress at 27, 28? guest: that is right, and i brought the average age down to 59. host: we are talking about 35.ennial, under

how are you received? guest: i cannot complain of it. i was welcomed with open arms. the older members, it is a familiar relationship -- they are looking out for you. a longe humility goes way, and i am the first asking , not afraidestions to admit i do not know a process or procedural question. often times, what younger members lack in experience they make up for in determination and their willingness to reach out to people in ways the older folks are not willing to do. anyone inhink congress should be our age, but if you look around the capital, you see you are in the minority and we need more women, more ethnic minorities, and more age division. 20% of the congress is female, but there were more voters from

18-29 in this election cycle than the senior citizen population, yet there is no member of tigris in that 20-your demographic. there are many of us in -- congress in the 20-year demographic. there are many of us in our 30's now. host: you are one of the youngest members to serve in the hawaii legislature. ,ou had some time on the hill and then went into the military at a fairly young age. guest: i have been grateful to have had a lot of these experiences. i was elected at 21 years old to the state legislature when people said you are too young, don't you have a party to go to somewhere? have more diverse representation within our elected bodies, you will see a higher level of engagement from the community, and not just those that have lived their lives in a full carrier, but

those that might just be starting out -- career, that those that might be starting out, facing large -- rising tuition, student loan rates. entrepreneurs, those looking to form a startup companies -- people that i really at the tipping point for creating the kind of future that we want to see. what we are hoping to do with caucus is to engage colleagues and the community across the country to hear their ideas. span: we want to engage c- viewers and listeners come opening up our phone lines. , we havee a millennial no way to verify that, but we have given you a separate line.

of recente politics days, this is a lead editorial "new york times" about the discussions on the debt ceiling and the cr. pressure fromdle outside organizations like this?

in five years in congress, i have not spent a week in washington, d.c.. i go back to my district every weekend and i would humbly submit i know my constituents in illinois better than anyone in washington, d.c., and i would respectfully submit my election results. iran a three-way primary and got 72% of the vote -- i ran a three-way primary and got 72% of the vote. with all due respect to the club for growth than any other think tank or special interest group in washington, d.c., and wants to score me, or chastise me for my votes, i would simply say i work for 750,000 people in illinois. they seem pleased in my job in representing them, and i take comfort in the resounding reelection and the good work my staff and i do.

we provide great constituent work. these groups are businesses, quite frankly, and they make money off of fund raising against different members of congress. to-$.20 on every dollar donated. there is always a donate now button. it is important for america, your listeners, to keep that in mind. groups to the left, moved to the right, the special interest groups are all about the business of politics, and at the end of the day, the only people carereally care -- that i are my bosses in illinois who hired me. district,ing at your and the age of your average citizen in your district -- district?

guest: i represent the second district in ohio, and you've smiled as i started talking about hawaii. a lot of people recognize what is special about hawaii, and it is not just the beaches and the perfect weather, but the people, the culture and the spirit that is there. we see the demographics changing. we have an aging community the challenges of going to make sure they have -- they are taken care of, the we have the challenges of young people who want to be able to be successful, the entrepreneurs, and create a future for their kids and their next generation. that is where we see -- in my election, it was a huge upset, where i was not supposed to win according to all of the political wonks on the ground, and too many of my opponents, the we saw an engagement from people across the state. as aaron schock was talking, that is how i have approached my

campaign and my job every single day. for a job from 750,000 people across our districts with diverse backgrounds, diverse concerns, and every single day they're evaluating the job that we do here, and our focus is on that, and that is why we are focused on getting results, working together for the folks back home. host: congressman aaron schock, it quick snapshot of your district? guest: historically, i would mention that it was represented by abraham lincoln. was edward dirksen's seat. it is the center of illinois. urea, illinois, is my hometown. , is myoreal, illinois hometown. i go along the western border

all the way down to the great community of quincy, illinois. 205 towns in my district. down to earth, hard- working people that do not want a lot from the government, but they want solutions. they expect us to work together. that is what a lot of the groups in washington, d.c. do not expect -- the election is over, and it is time to work together. it does not mean you wave the white flag. the american public voted for a divided government. if both parties sit in their corners, nothing will get done for two years or four years, and i do not think that is good for the public and or democrats. i do not think that is good for our country. we have too many challenges our country needs to deal with for the political process and for campaign season to be 24/7, 365 days a year. host: let's get to our calls. houston, texas.

.epublican line, hue my comment-- caller: is not for the lady. she is not done anything wrong, rino, he has-year sat here and told everyone that obama care is so bad, that it is going to hurt us, do everything to us, but when it comes time to do something, they say we will get blamed for it. we will get blamed for charting the government down. what kind of spineless that shutting the government down. shutting of spite -- the government down. what kind of shameless -- spineless talk is that? can you please tell me why? host: thank you for the call. obamacare, your take

guest: i think it is a bad law. i voted the law -- against the law when it passed. the house of representatives has voted over 40 times in different forms or fashions to repeal the bill. i have voted for every single one of them. seven of those measures have been signed by the president repealing significant portions of his own law that he supports, but with all due respect to the gentleman from houston, i would simply say i do not control the outcome of elections. hadhe end of the day, if we a different president in a different senate majority, we would have a different result right now on repealing the affordable care act or obamacare . however, the election did not go the way i wanted. the supreme court did not come down in the way that i would have liked. so, i am dealing with reality. you can do with reality or talking about what you want.

talking about what you want without a plan and a strategy to get there is a hallucination, just a dream. what i say to my fellow conservative colleagues is you want to defund obamacare, great. show me what the leverage point is. simply saying you will shut down the government because you are not getting what you want, and expecting a president who never faces voters again, who has nothing to lose on the issue, is going to somehow wake up and want to capitulate and cry uncle and say fine, i will repeal the law, if i were the president, i would not do that. about who is conservative and who supports the law or not. is about common sense, and the truth about pressure points and what kind of political strategy will get you to where you want. simply saying you will kick and scream and shut down the government does not result in the stated goals.

host: since we are focused on millennials, is there a consensus for people under 35 about the health-care law ?- health-care law day, wet the end of the want more people to have access to good, quality health care that is affordable. that is the end state. it is a conversation about how we get there that has to be had. going back to why we are forming this caucus, it is to provide a forum to be able to have those conversations. it is not two sides positioning and lobbing a fire at each other, which is not productive at all for our country. ..

caller: it is the democrats pushing for it. host: any thoughts? guest: our responsibility as a generation as members who been elected to represent not only those who may be of our age or

younger or older, we have to look and see how are we going to make sure that the services available for people across million different generational she wases. there are other benefits that fall within the affordable care act. there are areas that can be improved with the affordable care act. host: here's scott from independent line, good morning. caller: republicans and democrats, they don't get along unless it's absolutely convenient for them. like terrorizing the american people. writing bills through like the ndaa and this obamacare thing. republicans don't have anything to offer except letting the

insurance companies raise the rates. it should be medicaid for everybody. you will never get a doctor to take $100,000 cut in day so they can more money. host: the question of republican versus democrat when you look at millennials in particular, is there a identity? guest: the polls show the voters between 18 and 29-year-old population outperformed the senior citizen population. that 18 to 29-year-old vote is less politically rigid. they tend to vote more democratic than republicans but they identify less with think tf

congress who come are newer. they come from a different generation of americans that are used to working well together and we grew up in an area where you were taught to respect one another different beliefs, different value systems. i think we come to congress saying let's stop the bomb throwing. the election is over. you can have your position, i can have my position but negotiating is about give and take and trying to reach a deal. some folks, i think, come out here, they love to give great speeches but they don't get anything done. at the end of the day, tulsi is in hawaii, that's that's a long flight. i don't do that because it's a fun commute, i do it because i'm comes out here every week trying to get stuff done. if i'mcf not getting something done, not only the constituents

not happy, i as a member of congress is not fulfilling what i set out to do. host: he writes the millennials are less ideological than baby boom parents. polls show they are less prone to negative judgment on interracial marriage, unmarried couples living together and mothers and young children working outside the home while parents and grandparent work alone, young americans are team oriented. with these characteristics, what do that mean for crafting legislation? guest: i think it means that it's clear that there are many different subjects and topics and issue areas where there is more opportunity to find common ground and actually come up with solutions to problems. we were talking earlier about addressing the infrastructure need in our country. when you really take a moment to

just elevate the conversation aboved partisan rhetoric that dominate so many of the conversations in this town and go back to the things we're hearing. people are not talking about why the democrats, why the republicans are talking about our roads are in terrible condition. talk to us about how we are going to improve education. talk to us about how we're going to make sure that our kids are being trained to fill the jobs of the next generation. whether it be technology or in healthcare or in a variety of different industries. these are the things that people at home are talking about and these . host: nicholas on the line, identified as an independent. caller: good morning, i'm really loving the conversation and happy to be a part of it. i come from a relatively conservative family who even still was able to give obama the benefit of the doubt possibly considered voting for him. ever sense then, they've

resigned themselves to saying things such as the problems is on you. your generation voted for him. so it's all on you. your generation is doomed. they're just leaving all the problems that every generation before mine created. at the same time, not even addressing politically relevant issues to my generation in the up coming selection. all it seems to be is abortion, gay marriage, obamacare. scientific issues such as the internet, biotechnology, up coming issues such as that are put to the wayside. we seem to be distracted. my generation obviously for a certain reason just becomes apathetic and we're not sure what to do when people won't listen to us. that's about all i can say. host: thanks for your call. guest: this is why we're here. guest: he's exactly right. the fact of the matter is, what we spend a lot of our time out

here debating, what we spending this week talking about? shutting down the government. if this is a business, this will never stand. let's talk about -- we spend $3.5 trilliong68o a year, what s this entity need to be competitive to stay on top as number one in the world. we need first class education system. any urban school system in america half the kids aren't graduating from high school. every statistician tell you if you gotten graduate from high school, off higher chance than not of living in a life of poverty. education reform is something that can bring republicans and demoat together. arne duncan done a great job offering up ideas. i wish we can spend more time debating that. infrastructure, we got to have first class. you land in any other international airport major country in this world and they

will out perform our airport. host: so why can't the house get a highway bill done? guest: the house and senate can't agree on a revenue stream. our motor fuel tax is a dying revenue stream. i propose generating a tax or revenue as source of production energy. right now it's the consumption of gasoline. when you have electric car and natural gas vehicle, they're not paying anything towards roads and bridges. let's tax the production of natural gas, oil drilling the coal plants at the production of energy and then let people drive whatever vehicle they want. our water and river systems also need huge upgrades. about $3 trillion needed in damn repears that will be necessary to service the panama canal. i offered up a bill to increase

the barge fees. to your point, tulsi and i are about offering solutions. unfortunately some members are more interested in the process and inner party fights and it gets us bogged down. guest: what i will add to that, because this is important and i would speak to your viewers and people across the country. they should not under estimate the power of their voices. it is powerful for people to call, write and e-mail members of congress and advocate for solutions and denounce the partisan bickering that stop some of these solutions being brought to the floor for a vote. host: west virginia, good morning go ahead.

democratic line. caller: i think what the gentleman just said about taxing the oil industry at the production level, that's exactly what i'm calling about. i just saw a morning joke an article about the c.e.o. of panera bread will try to live on $4.50 a day to highlight the hundreder problem in this country. what i thought about when they said the figure to that is a cut of $40 billion over the next number of years. i just thought we give $4.4 billion each year in the form of subsidies to the oil industry. why can we not go as the gentlemen said, to these industries that get our tax money, take it back and apply it to the food stamp program?

i think what your doing is absolutely wonderful. i think if you would pick a couple main issues that you've been talking about, such as jobs and infrastructure and then just go everywhere you can around the country, bringing attention to this bipartisan effort and to these major issues. if we can get jobs going and infrastructure providing many healthcare needs and etcetera. host: when your group meet today, is there number one issue or legislation you will take up first? guest: i think we're looking to the bipartisan of this conversation to focus on priorities with other members as well as some of the other folks coming to speak to us today. one of the topics that we'll be discussing is innovation. it's not only innovation in a narrow sense saying, the start

up community,' k silicone vall, obviously that's a huge part. it's the concept of innovation and encouraging that in our communities and creating a environment that foster this innovation to find solutions to some of these challenges we face. but also to make it so it's a two way street. people who are trying to execute some of these ideas, can look back to us and say here's how we think government, innovative. seeing how can we do this job better. host: we're talking about issues affecting millennials. yesterday the congressional budget office looked long term. spoke to reporters about the unsustainability of the spending of congress. i want to play his comments. >> the federal budget is on a course that cannot be sustained

indefinitely. in ourpxg extended baseline, wh largely follows current law, we projected federal debt held by the public willgdgt rise from 7f gdp today to 100% in gdp 25 years from now. even before incorporating the harmful economic effects of the rising debt. to be sure,ogvm the deficit has shrunk dramatically during the past two?h0p years. for nearly% in 2009 to 4% this year. we expect].çb under current lawe deficit will decline further to about 2% gdp. host: so 25 years from now when millennials are heading to 60, he's talking about gdp being debt being 100% of gdp. what's that say to you about what congress has to do? guest: we have no time to waste. that's the bottom line here.

the last caller talked about focusing on jobs and focusing on the economy4fxy and that's a ke] central focus of our efforts here with this future caucus. clearly, unless we have a strong economy that is creating jobs, providing opportunities for people across the country, that is central to any of the other issues and challenges we face, whether they be healthcare or education or national security or infrastructure. having a strong economy is central to any of these efforts being successful. host: when you heard that, what did you hear yesterday? guest: i hear something i wish every american would recognize. again, we are a function of who we represent and if i go home and i do, i hear from people on the debt. not everybody does and not everybody comes to congress worried about that. quite frankly, i don't mean to make this an age battle, people that are nearly retirement or nearing the end of the road, are

less worried about 50 years from now. that's where generationally republicans and democrats come together, i don't care what your political ideology is, it's basic math. if you care about roads, if you care about education, if you care about a healthy economy, we can't keep borrowing this money. that money has to be paid back. every country that done this to themselves has resulted in a higher rate of unemployment. you look at france and greece and european counterparts gone down a similar path. host: matt is 26 years old and he is in denver, a democrat. go ahead. caller: good morning. first of all, i want to say representative schock, you're going a great job.3]o: inqqqq!ts,ç think that if everyn

falled your leadership we'll be on the right track. also representative tulsi gabbard you do a great job. speaking of a great economy, how about we take a look at compensation in this country. i'm working full going to school part time, i makeless than 30,000 a year i. i purchased my home as a foreclosure. forbes came out even people making over a billion dollars a year aren't considered relationship in this country. how about we take a look at that. thank you. host: thanks matt. any thoughts? guest: again, many of these conversations thread back on messages of improving our economy. along with that goes making sure that people are earning a living wage and they're able to support their families and provide for them, put food on the table. earlier a caller talked about cuts to snap or food stamp funding. all of these things feed into

the core issue of having an improved economy. having opportunity for people so these concerns are not the central conversation that we're talking about here where we do have a very robust environment that fosters this innovative and entrepreneurial spirit so that people are earn more than a living wage. host: armstrong creek, wisconsin, independent line. good morning go ahead. caller: thanks to c-span. i would like to ask you how you both feel about the role of money in politics and the citizens united decision that made corporations people money speech. it seems to me that the special interest have way too much influence on decisions that you make. i know you both have to dive for dollars. you may not like it but it's reality of getting elected. just want to hear your views on

it. also, are either of you involved with alec? i like an honest answer on that. alec is the american legislative exchange council. it's basically a lobbying group. i'll take your answer off the phone. host: okay dave. any thoughts on alec or his other comments? guest: i'll start. alec is an organization that is focused on state legislature if i'm not mistaken. i'm not involved with that organization. on the issue of money and politics, this is an area where i think there can be bipartisan common ground because it's clearly an area that needs reformed. on citizens united in particular, i strongly feel this needs to be repealed because it really does erode in my view, the democratic process. where candidates are working,

fundraising is part of it to be able to raise the money to get the message out to voters and to have anonymous outside organizations come in even at the very last minute and really influence the outcome. often time an election is not indicative what our democratic process is about. host: about 10 more minutes with our guests. aaron schock of illinois and tulsi gabbard of florida. we're talking about the formation of the congressional future caucus. looking at interest and efforts of those under 35, the millennial generation. here's how you join the conversation, democrats and republicans, 202-585-3880 and 202-585-3881. here's fred, he's in new hampshire, democrats line. caller: good morning. i was wondering about obamacare.

i have three sons i'm older. i'm disabled veteran. i have three sons and they all have good jobs and they have good insurance. how will obamacare going to hurt them? i don't understand how -- they have good insurance and they can keep it. they are keeping their insurance. they have very good insurance and very good jobs. i'm not understanding how obamacare is suppose to hurt people? guest: so, may be i can give you a perspective. first of all thank you for your service as a disabled veteran. appreciate your sacrifice for our country. congratulations on three good sons who are all gainfully employed. here's the challenge with obamacare is that, it it puts a number of mandates on insurance company that's are not there now. hhs, the health and human service secretary can determine what adequate healthcare

coverage is. the employer provide coverage that your sons may be getting will not meet that standard. as a result, the employer will that will raise the cost per employee of their health insurance. even so, the employer can also opt instead of providing the employer provided coverage to instead pay a $2000 per employee penalty and then those individuals are will no longer have employer provided health insurance. they will go into a federal exchange that is subsidized by taxpayer. companies large and small have been coming out to capitol hill and telling us they've been doing the math to drop their employer provided coverage and pay the $2000 penal to and put them in the exchange and wipe their hands of providing health insurance to their employees. my frienden the other side of the aisle, many of them will say

that will not happen. it hasn't happen in states where a similar law is in effect. we don't know but that is the threat and concern to your son who have employer provided health insurance. open? guest: yes, hawaii have already set up their health exchange and going through the preparation of october 1 launch. in hawaii, we have something in place called the prepaid healthcare act. legislature in 1970 where hawaii in position where we had the lowest uninsured rate. anyone working part time had employer mandate to provide insurance to them. it's something that worked many years and brought us to a place where a small number of folks are uninsured. host: the state budget has been able to sustain that? guest: yes. host: we had a caller mentioned

alec. alec.com, just some information. legislation exchange council. they work to advance the free market enterprise, limited government through a nonpartisan public private partnership of state andgislures, members of the private sector and general public. that's from alec.com. couple more calls here. jay is in oak hill, florida, republican line. caller: i don't understand a lot of the obamacare issues that are built into it. i do understand that it's a tax. i don't know why we continue to call it obamacare. it should be called obama tax care. when you have congress opting out and have all of these unions opting out and then you have the younger generation saying they don't want to have to worry about -- even my daughter said, they'll pay the fine off. if this thing is dependent upon membership in order to take care

of it. it the same as saying preexisting condition -- that doesn't seem like it will sustain itself. it seem like obamacare is setibo fair. i'm married to a native hawaiian, how do you feel about the fact that obama was raised and grew up in hawaii and but yet he calls chicago his home. all the politics revolve around chicago. he doesn't anything for the hawaiian people. guest: we're very proud in hawaii to have the president call hawaii his home state. obviously people in chicago also claim him as he does them. really, growing up in hawaii as you all know, being married to a native hawaiian, the culture that we have in hawaii is a special one and one that.#çñ eaf us who has ties he carries with us wherever we go. i do my very best to bring that

to the work i do. host: particularly young people the potential tax penalty for not havi.z'q healthcare after e healthcare law kicks in. what are your concerns there? guest: one of my concern there's a provision in the law that called community rating, a private insurance companytk cant charge their least expensive client, their youngest person, expensive client. your most expensive senior citizen who may be paying 10 or $15,000 a year forv7[ér their hh insuñkyñe, the 25-year-old who wants to buy health insurance will not be able to pay less than $5000 if the most expensive is $15,000. let me put that in real terms. when i came to congress at 27,

he a high deductible. bluecross blueshield plan. 27 single male healthy and $80 a month. the concern is that the incentive is a huge shift generationally in terms of who's paying for the health insurance. the reason they're not in health insuranceí(jq because of they can't afford the $80 a month, it's because they think they're super man. they don't think they will need health insurance. in many cases they don't. the concern is they don't buy into the affordable care act, they don't pay into the plan, then we won't have those healthy bodies and those healthy members of the plan to make up for the sicker member and more ch)expee members. guest: wherever you fall bqaun this issue, congress, we are not

exempt from it. this is something that we will be signing up for in the8jv healthcare exchanges and labor unions are not happy. decision came out that the labor unions are not exempt from this. host: tulsi gabbard from hawaii, aaron schock of illinois. co-chairs of the congressional future caucus. more "washington journal" ahead. we will open up phone lines. open phones through 10:00 eastern. we will take a look at the roll call report on the 50 richest members of congress. update from c-span radio. >> in?[tá august, builders?4>l/d work on the most single family homes in six months. requested permits to build even more in future months. commerce department just reporting that builders increased construction of single family homes seven percent that's to a=ñ seasonally adjustd

annual rate 628,000. they also sought 627,000 permits, a three percent increase from july and most since may of 2008. the inspector general of the i.r.s. says budgets cuts cuts are urgent cutting the agency ability to go after tax cheat. tax collections from enforcement actions dropped by 9% in the 2012 budget year. to a little more than $50 billion. that was a second year in a row that enforcement collections dropped. finally, walgreens will become the latest biggest employers will send its workers shopping insurance. walgreens said it will start giving workers a contributionp÷ towards the cost of coverage a9i then send them to a private health insurance exchange. walgreens says workers will pick from as many as 25 plans.

some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> this weekend look for book tv live full day coverage of the national book festival. featured authors includes, kay bailey hutchison and rick atkinson. looking ahead to october. >> young people, young children come up and say how can you be in the congress. you got arrested. you violated the law. i said, they were bad laws. they were customs, they were tradition and we wanted america to be better. we wanted america to live up to the declaration of independence. live up to our creed. make real our democracy. take it off paper and make it real. when i got arrested the first time this book is saying, i felt

free. i felt liberated. today more than ever before, i feel free and liberated. abraham lincoln, 150 years ago, freed the slaves. but it took more than the civil rights movements to free and liberate a nation. >> congressman john lewis will be our guest sunday december 6. also scheduled for in-depth november 3 biographer kitty kelly, december 1, christina summers and mark levin. host: in our remaining half hour here on c-span's "washington journal," we'll open up phone lines for any topic. for democrats it's 202-585-3880, for republicans, 202-585-3881,

independents that's 202-585-3882. also join us on twitter. you can post on facebook, we posted a comment earlier about bipartisanship in congress. we'll get to your calls momentarily. we will hear about the 50 richest members of congress in just a bit. looking at some headlines this morning from the newspapers the denver post and this headline is from the courtesy of the museum rescues takes the first rain free day of the week. they have a picture here first class keith bart hoisting two women in a helicopter in a rescue in jamestown after the floods in colorado. looking at some of the other headline this morning. front page in the washington times, they have remembering]iie

fallen. looking at 12 victims of the monday's navy yard shooting. next to it that the story on the economy. government cuts slowing the rebound. the primary reason, the four year long recovery is more sluggish than other recoveries since world war ii economist say. over all federal, state and local governments have eliminated more than 750,000 jobs since the recession ended in june 2009. open phones to lehigh acres, florida. this is joan. caller: my comment is on guns. i find it gets so much attention when we have these major shootings. i just came from viewing in intensive ward i.c.u.

had seven gunshot wounds and may be two or three stabbings opinion this is the norm for the hospital. our focus needs to be on guns and our society, not guns -- lot of these things are black on3xkx black crime and they don't get the headlines that the others do. it's a shame. our cops are being shot. everything is going on around us. still, we allow the gun control to control the legislation. the gun lobbyist i should say, the lapierres of this world. why are we allowing this as people? host: former navy yard shooting. fbi alleged gunman acted alone. they say he assembled the shotgun in the mens room.

yakima, washington, open phones. brian on our republican line. caller: i was just curious as to any of the unions having problem with the affordable care act. not that i personally voted for it. because i didn't. my understanding of most of the unions, they have a line item called health and welfare. which is basically each member part of their pay is contributing towards their insurance and then that's applied by the unions. you know what the problem is the unions have? they're getting a penalty because they're not specifically -- the member pay for themselves through their wage that's are negotiated? what exactly is -- you know what i'm saying? host: i don't know specifically brian. perhaps one of viewers will.

thompson from stanwood washington, he's on independent line. caller: what i'm calling about today, i have a concern i like to see c-span address it in the near future. it's that nuclear power leak over in japan. if it would be possible to get some people that are familiar with those types of nuclear power plants and the problems involved trying to decommission them. the size of that leak and the potential damage. i just don't feel that we're getting the whole story on it. our government doesn't seem to be real involved. the japanese government and the corporation that owns the nuclear power plants, i think

they're trying to do -- it appears to me we're not getting an adequate response. this issue will be way more serious we're told. i'm afraid when the radio activity starts showing up on the west coast here, then we'll be made aware of the problem. covered some of that here on "washington journal" and on capitol hill. roderickñ=oz is wé, from geor. democrats line. background checks. lot of young people are making mistakes and getting in trouble. the background checks causing a problem for them to get jobs and also in the future, i talked to a guy this morning, something happened seven years ago and

that record has prevented hem from getting a jobs. you think we need to come up with something that will be a forgiveness of the young people? host: thanks for your call. california is up is cathy on the republican line. caller: i wish i could have called when those wonderful representatives were there. one thing i wanted to mention since there was a democrat and republican there, the country as a whole has shifted over to the left over the last decade. going back to may be like the 1950's. people don't seem to remember that. republicans is closer to center and if jfk was alive, he will be more of an independent. i want to mention the citizens united thing that was ruled upon and the one democrat lady who

was there mentioned she thought it will be over turned. people have to remember there needs to be some avenue it's unions also. there needs to be some avenue they can feel they can represent themselves. also, the democrats have all these lines of influence. they have the entertainment industry, the television industry, the music industry. just all of these different industry that's are putting out their message. when you look at that, it's more even handed if the businesses and corporations are allowed to put on the message more on the conservative or republican side. the whole thing with guns, might give the federal government pause to know that the citizenry is armed. that's something to think about. also, with background checks, to have the whole universal background check, i believe i've

heard that homeland security has anybody who patriotic attitude is actually on the list of someone to watch. so the idea of having]xsp a universal check of whether it's okay to have guns, i'm just not in favor of that being in the hands of the federal government of who can protect us and who can't. and about obamacare finally, my family is a union family. private union family. i think republicans are proprivate union. it's the public unions that tend to be trouble or problematic because it's our tacks that goes towards that. as a private union family over the years, there's been some years we've put $25,000 towards

our own insurance and now that insurance it does not count. so to speak. over these years, we have had the budget and it means that we haven't lived the lifestyle of other families because we've had these really good health insurance policies. so now, we're kind of screwed because now with obamacare, it looks like we won't have these relationships anymore with the health insurance companies. i'm really upset about that being older and -- i wanted to put that out too. host: republican in california joined by adrian who is a senior editor with roll call. just published their annual guide to the 50 richest members of congress. thanks for being on "washington journal" this morning. what is roll call put together

this list. >> we've been doing this since 1990. you have a interest in who's gaining money and it has a transparency function showing what lawmakers own in terms of assets, which banks they may owe money to and mortgages and student loans. it kind of pulls a veil a little bit on what these lawmakers own and how wealthy they are. host: at the to have is darrell issa. wealth? >> most of his wealth is from the car alarm system. now he's making most of his money in the stock market.wkisñr he made $135 million last year.r he now has at least $390 million

worth could be far greater because the way they report these forms give the values and broad bands. it could be anything that he list as $50 million or above, could be hundreds of million. host: how does the list break down in terms of democrats and republicans. guest: it's fairly even, the republican 29 and democrats account for the ability of the dozen richest. these things flip around a little bit. i guess people have to draw their own conclusion. host: do you look at how charitable donations and looking at some of the members of the screen of the roll call list. do you look at charitable donations. guest: we do a bit. again, some of these forms don't detail. some of the lawmakers choose to make their own disclosures and

some of theme donate their congressional salary. of course, when you've got hundreds of millions of dollars in assets, that's not hard to do but it's still worth noting. host: one of the members on there is representative josephx3 kennedy who you indicate derive most of that wealth trust set up by his family. how many other member have their wealth and trust, money that they really can't have day-to-day control over? guest: quite a few actually i think we found out that about 15% of the 112th congress have trust. compared to the average american household, that's significant. political family was number 23 on the list. he had almost all of his approximately $15 million fortune connected to a number of

family trust. host: you can entire piece online. the 50 richest members in congress from roll call. this morning. back to your calls on open phones. i want to let you know about 15 minutes, we will be taking you live to the u.s. house. we will have coverage coming up thisñqr morning of one of two hearings looking atdyzm the bi investigation. we will have live coverage for you on c-span. let's go to shanksville, florida -- summerville, florida, this is ted on our!l democrats line. caller: good morning. the federal budget deficit easy to carry. all you have to do is get these big companies left, taking our jobd:26dtárju them from selling household

products. their stock is over $500 a share now. they have i think it's $20 billion in the bank they big companies, the jobs. they're leaving and taking our jobs. we put all these people back to work. country, then, okay sell them here but put the people why. the first one is that he was

there, he had to take his father's citizenship. his real name is barry satoro. that's the family name that adopted him. another thing his birth certificate that he put up the last time, if you would look at his father's citizenship, it says kenya. if i was a citizen of kenya or the british republic, obama citizen.

host: most of that has been debunked as you probably know. thanks for your call and your opinion. back to president obama though a news report from the "new york times" and what's ahead on capitol hill. they write budget fight looms. obama see defiance in his own party. peter baker writing in recent weeks disgruntled democrats bolted from the white house on issues like the national security agency"+káeillance, planned military strike on syria and potential appointment of lawrence summers to lead the federal reserve. they are sometimes only a little more restrainedóe they complain the white house]çs not consulting enough. they say mr. obama has been too passive and ceded momentum to republicans. some gripes that he takes on causes he cannot win. the failure to enact tightened gun control laws issue the

republican hold on immigration have left liberals a little to celebrate. to judy to idaho falls our independent line. caller: i like to talk about gerrymandering and lack of turn over of seats in congress because of it. i think we need a constitutional amendment that will require that congressional districts be drawn strictly on geographic boundaries rather than -- with reference to precincts turnouts for democrats or republicans. what's happening is representatives are choosing their voters rather than the voters choosing their representatives.

that is creating a situation where the special interest can support someone in a safe district and more or less block out the rest of us from having any say. host: do you see that problem in idaho falls? caller: well this is idaho, it's about as red as you get. there are concentrations of democrats but the way our congressional district line is drawn, it comes straight down through the middle and splits the only democratic area into two different districts. host: judy thankso.ñ for that. north port, florida is up, bob is on our democrats line. caller: my question was, what

is the -- flat tax. everybody to pay. what is the advantages and disadvantages? host: adid they write a google the largest internet search company-=o is considering a majr change in how activities are tracked. mary is in ava, new york our independents line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i was just listening to those young representatives in congress. especially the young lady from hawaii.

of course, they both agree that the mentality is different than the one that's have been in congress or even in the white house for such a long time. but the trouble is, a lot of this talk, integrated into the schools where the younger generation, that's the same thing -- giving them 40 years to youth and they won't have to fire a shot to change america. then they plan on 25 or 50 years but if people don't get back to god, we won't have 25 years. host: next up we go to hermansville, michigan, this is lyle, democratic caller. caller: you had representatives

on earlier talking about the insurance and they talk about how much the premiums are. they don't talk about how much the deductibles will be. you got to meet that before you get any insurance coverage. these insurance companies are making money. the other one i have is, these representative, they all have 100% medical coverage. why should they have to pay a deductible. you have all of our military people coming back. they don't get 100%. if anyone deserves 100% its them. not the people setting in washington. host: lyle thanks for your call. u.s. house gaveling in under 10 minutes. we're covering the news conference of out going fed chair ben bernanke. you can see it on c-span.org.

open phones until 10:00 a.m. eastern. republican caller from wyoming. caller: thanks for the service with c-span. so,n'woz my buddy, he's been reg mark levin about article five of the constitution, which states there can be a convention to amend the constitution by bypassing congress. if congress doesn't move, there's options. i'm not sure.sp also, devaluing our debt by printing more money is the wrong way to go about it. there's got to be a better way. because printing all of this paper is going to cause the inflation. all right, thank you so much. host: you bet. here's the u.s.a. today talking about the situation in iraq exploding violence threatens the iraq is the headline.

since u.s. troops left. some fear renewed civil war. they write that iraq has exploded with violence this year. on tuesday a new wave of car bombs rocked special streets in the iraqi capital that left 31 dead. the suicide attack e@rówand bomg death toll rise rose. that violence decreased subsubstantially after president george w. bush which flooded the region with thousands of troops. but violence began rising a few months after president obama ordinaried all u.s. troops out of iraq by december of 2011. back to open phones, pat is in cleveland on our democrats line. caller: hi. i like to say to all of those 50 the house. to their constituents, i like to

say all of you that are making $25,000 a less a year. think about it, if you needed $10, to help pay your mortgage, they're not coming for you. your only biting off your nose because of this president. he's not going anywhere. he's going to be fine. his family is going to be fine. you're not going to hurt him. he's already made his legacy. instead of trying to work with him to get what you need, you have a job. if the republicans would sign off on infrastructure, you get more tax money into the government. you wouldn't need all of these food stamps. you would have what you need. you will be able to get peace. you will be able to get health insurance, be able to get a job and a house. but you can't because you are stuck under republicans and idiot rush limbaugh. the man is worth $100 million. he still needs help and he's still on drugs. host: let's go to florida, hear from cliff on our republican

line. caller: i had a comment about the syria situation. i was kind of wondering you remember about a year in a half ago, president obama made the comment to the then russian president that he would be much more flexible after the election. this is what he meant by being more flexible. he's going to let them run the show? host: david is in new york, he's on our independent lean. hello. caller: how you doing today? great show today. it was nice to see the younger congress people in there, the lady from hawaii and the gentleman from illinois and people from arizona, democrats, republicans trying to work together. i really think it's time to get rid of these old fossils been there for years and years because they're all stuck in

their ways. that's how bipartisan starts. you get the older generation that's been there for 30 years and they're not going to change their ways for nothing. these people you had on earlier, how beautiful they work together. they almost worked in harmony. if we had more people like that in there, i think actually we can get something done. instead of the old levin and harry reid and nancy pelosi. no matter what happens or whatever goes on, their not going to have bipartisanship period. let's get these younger people you have on today. they were very elegant and very thank you. host: here's florida, carmelo is on the democratsisr line th. caller: good morning. i really wanted to talk about our -- i'm sorry, i wanted to

talk about our internet and our sweepstakes here in florida that they took away from all the people here and all the community. the mobile home communities. they're all sick about it. the fact that governor scott did not sign it and alloyople to have it. that's some of their fun that they enjoy doing. they don't have to drive all the way to tampa to the indian reservation to do their fun time. this is a fun time for people. all the people coming from -- all the northerners coming down here for the winner are going to be so upset because they do not have the internet sweepstakes open. i think there's nothing wrong with it. if they would regulate it and take those people who are doing bad, i do blame some of the democrats and i blame some of the republicans taking money from them. they should have never done

that. they should have allowed them to do everything correctly and do it by the book. not the people should suffer. it's wonderful. we were just going not even a few minutes. host: i will let you go there. the u.s. house is coming in next. thanks for all of your calls this morning. "washington journal" back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. we're going to leave it right here as u.s. house is here today. morning hour speeches is up first and noon eastern they begin legislative discussion. we plan to bring you live coverage of benghazi during that reak. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., september 18, 2013. i hereby appoint the honorable doug lamalfa