allow a conference committee on the budget. this is what has handcuff the appropriations committee is they are operating under this unrealistic, ideological and we can get down to cases. it doesn't have to be this hard. stop thear order work, sideshow. >> the gentleman's time has expired. for what her this is the gentleman from kentucky seek recognition? >> i yield to minutes to the gentleman from colorado, mr. gardner.

>> i rise to engage to join in a colloquy. i appreciate his willingness to are come debate when there natural disasters and i appreciate your efforts. in colorado, we are experiencing a major flood that has impacted his team counties, crossing over approximately 2000 square miles. certain areas have received over 20 inches of rain. damagedomes have been or destroyed in the destroyed count is above 2000 homes. many areas are still in crisis trade federal emergency management agency will be unable to provide an accurate damage assessment or at least early days. additionally, the colorado department of transportation estimates cost could exceed the $100 million cap that would exceed the cap on funds in a disaster relief act. the tragedy and devastation caused by this severe flood

the federal government. >> will the gentleman yield? >> i yield to the gentleman. >> i want to thank the gentleman from colorado for all of his efforts to help colorado through all of this turmoil. i'm awareisaster area of the dire need to help colorado and provide access to emergency resources, including access to emergency transportation dollars and i look forward to working with the gentleman to address this funding manager as expeditiously as possible. i know i speak for all of the house when i say our hearts are with you and our prayers are with you and thank you for our -- thank you for your great service.

kentuckyntleman from reserves trade the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. >> the gentleman from connecticut is recognized for three minutes. >> i rise in strong opposition to this cynical and ms. conceived funding bill designed to push us into a government shut down. majority, we saw this on a partyline vote rob buddha low incomeuth of americans including children, seniors and veterans. would onlytion further punish american families and accelerate the majority's race to the bottom. in fact, the majority's

leadership has been quite explicit about their intentions. they want to lock in the cuts we have seen to education programs, health programs, they want to make those cuts permanent. that is their opening position. they have been quite upfront that the only way they would mitigate against these cut is in exchange for cuts to social security, medicare and medicaid. even though these deep cuts are producing harmful results over the country, the majority wants to use them as leverage for further negotiations. it is about ideology and it is just a game to them. people's lives don't seem to matter. let me remind this hottie what is happening all over america because of the across-the-board cuts. more than 50,000 children are

losing access to early learning through head start. children that thousands of schools across america would use -- would lose access to schools they need to provide access to instruction they need. overboard and agencies are asking to pick up a higher share for the cost of educating more than 6 million students with special needs and kids are losing access to childcare and putting economic security more at risk. hundreds of thousands of unemployed adult veterans are losing access to job training programs. though biomedical research that saves lives and cancer, diabetes, autism, that research is being curtailed. i am a cancer survivor.

biomedical research and the grace of god have allowed me to stand here today, but they would cut off while medical research. it is either going to be delayed or lost. food safety, public health, we andromise our economy health and well-being of american families and our very future as a nation. instead of working to pass a compromise bill that addresses the budget and a serious and responsible manner, they have used this ross us to try yet again to derail the affordable care act and deny americans affordable health care. these members have health insurance. most americans do not. >> she is an recognize for an additional one minute. >> members of congress have health insurance. people in this station cannot afford health insurance. they would cut off. they would make it impossible for people to get preventive

care to get their kids up to age 26 on their own health insurance coverage and say to the insurance companies, go for it can deny health care coverage and talk about pre- existing conditions. families all over america are struggling. this is not a game. we are talking about people's lives. we have a moral responsibility and we are here to represent the our own people, not personal agenda or political agenda and don't ideology. better, so we must vote against this bill and i yield back the balance of my time. >> the gentlewoman reserves. kentucky --man from >> can i ask how much time remains? >> the gentlewoman has 11 minutes and the gentleman has asked minutes.

>> i reserve great >> madam's beaker, i am pleased to yield 10 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from georgia, john lewis. >> the german from georgia is recognized for two minutes. >> madam speaker, i want to thank my friends and colleagues for yielding. madam speaker, this is unbelievable. i cannot believe we are here done,with so much to be so much good that we could do, this republican congress wants to stop the country to deny the people a chance to see a doctor. how many times are we going to do this? next?s medicare? medicaid? social security? this is not right. this is not fair. it is not just.

madam speaker, the voters have spoken. the supreme court has ruled. the affordable care act is the rule of the land. it is constitutional. it is compassionate. it is what is right. .t is what is necessary so much progress has been made that young people can stay insured under their parents. more people will have coverage to help them see a doctor when they need to. coverage that covers. the american people are counting on us trade we must fulfill our constitutional responsibilities to fund the federal government. the prong -- the promise of health care to american people. we will not go back words. we have come too far and we cannot turn back. madam speaker, health care is a right. it is not a privilege for the oflthy grade every citizen

the united states should be able to see a doctor when they need to. every single one. this is not the american way. it is not the america we believe in. we should care for each other. we should look out for one another. we are one family, one house, the american house, and we shall put the roof down on our heads. we should not pull the roof down on our heads to when political points. vote no on this backward deal. vote for what is right am a fair and just. >> the gentleman's time is expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized great >> i reserve. >> the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. >> i am pleased to yield one minute to the distinguished leader, ms. pelosi from california. >> the gentlewoman from california is recognized for one minute. you very much, madam

speaker. madam speaker, i come to the floor in anyways as a mother. as a mother concerned about the children of america, as a grandmother concerned about all of america's children, but as a mother who steps into this chamber to say this place is a mess. let's get our house in order. we are legislators. we have come here to do a job for the american people, and job means we have to make the government for the good of the people. not here to expand government, but we are not here to eliminate government. if the idea is to limit government, let's work together to do that. but what is brought to the floor today is without a doubt a measure designed to shut down government. it could have no other intent.

its purpose is clear. if our colleagues on the republican side deny that, then they have no idea of the gravity of the situation -- to quote "the music man" of the trouble that is contained in this resolution today. it is a wolf and wolf's clothing. the underlying bill to shut down government is reason enough to object to it. cost at least a million jobs in the course of the next year. will cost a million jobs. , itill not only do that will cut our investments in the future in education, biomedical the national education -- national institutes of health

has the power to cure. we have a moral obligation to resources and the respect the talent, intellect and god-given intellect of the science to cure and what do we do in this will? say no, we cut it. doing serious damage to science, health and not only that, to our competitiveness as a nation. that, it is -- if the underlying ill were not bad enough or reason enough to say , thene you kidding, no they cloak it in wolves clothing and say in their view they are going to defund the affordable care act. nina what that is about. it is simply about putting their friends, the insurance companies, back in charge of the medical decisions for your

family. but it goes farther than that. if that were not bad enough, it slashes the strongly bipartisan children's health insurance or graham by 70%. effectively eliminating an initiative that provides much- needed help to millions of low- income children. that will passed the senate in a bipartisan way with a vetoproof majority. but that's not good enough for you. you have to slashes by 70% to harm those children. once again this week. it wreaks havoc on health care for seniors by disrupting provider payments for medicare and medicaid. either you don't know what you are doing more this is one of the most intentional act of brutality you have cooked up with this competition for that honor. it cuts billions of dollars again from the national institutes of health, delaying

important research and denying medical breakthroughs for future generations. democrats have a responsible proposal that balances, reduces the deficit under the leadership of chris van hollen, our ranking member on the budget committee. it reduces the deficit in a responsible way and the devastating across-the-board cuts of the sequester and makes investments in the future and keeps government open as opposed to this bill intended to shut cut -- shut government down. i know my colleague mr. hoyer has been very vocal on this subject and he will quote some republicans on what they have said great don't take it from us. take it from you, mr. chairman -- i will extended to have the exact quote. it doesn't enable us to do the work of government.

i urge a no vote on this continuing revolution -- resolution. a terrible vote for our country and it is time for us to work together to help ensure and not in danger the economic security and prosperity of the american people. i urge my colleagues to vote no and yield back the balance of my time. back. gentlewoman yield the gentlewoman from kentucky is recognized. >> i yield one minute to the distinguished majority leader of the house, mr. cantor of virginia. virginiantleman from is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, madam speaker at a want to thank the gentleman from kentucky for his leadership running this bill forward. madam speaker, i rise today in strong support of this measure providing for the continuing resolution. millions of americans across this country are struggling to find good paying jobs and

struggling to pay their bills and their frustration with government continues to grow. these americans, these hard- working middle-class americans are counting on their own elected representatives to show leadership during these hard times. resolution will keep the government funded at its current level without increasing spending on the discretionary level while congress finishes working on a tiredudget. americans are of seeing their government continue to spend more and more of their hard-earned tax dollars and for the first time since the korean war, it will be possible to have two consecutive years of discretionary spending cuts. this resolution will protect the working middle class from the devastating effects of obamacare. we hear stories about

how both major employers and small businesses are cutting back benefits and cutting back hours. the president's health care law is turning our full-time economy into a part-time economy. even the heads of major unions who were once so supportive of obamacare want to see this law drastically changed to avoid further nightmare scenarios. let's defund this lot now and protect the american people from the economic calamity that we know of obamacare will create. americans back home are fighting for their families. to washington by our constituents to fight for them. they have put faith in their leaders to do what's right. for this entire congress, the house has led on restoring faith in our economy and trust in our government. we should pass this continuing

revolution so the senate can finally begin to do the same. i would like to thank the gentleman from kentucky for his work on this measure along with the help of the gentleman from louisiana, the republican study committee member for their hard work on the issue and i urge my colleagues to support this resolution. >> the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. >> i am very pleased to yield three minutes to the distinguished with, mr. steny ther from maryland area >> gentleman from maryland is recognized for three minutes. >> thank you for yielding. arem speaker, today, we considering a measure to fund government only if the democratic senate and president will agree to dismantle a health

care reform law that will help millions of americans access quality, affordable care. that isn't going to happen and it is a latent act of hostagetaking. lays thelican cr groundwork for a default on our debt, an unthinkable act. by instituting a page china first revision. dangerousmbraces the and irrational policy of sequester. this bill enshrines and confirms the dissent into an economy destroying national security undermining and ineffective rendering of the government are country and our people need. itsmajority party with distractive obsession with the repeal of the affordable care act and it unrestrained hostility toward government has offered this bill

notwithstanding the hollow claims of irrationality of the sequester policy their party adopt. the majority does so notwithstanding their chairman's accurate description of their policy of sequester and i quote the distinguished chair mr. rogers as unrealistic and ill- conceived. his words, not mine. a policy which chairman rogers himself says must be brought to an end. his words, not mine. chairman rogers vote today i will expect do just the opposite. they will vote to continue a policy that will inevitably lead to an american decline in retreat. party to the disinvestment in america's great men -- greatness. undermines the

education of our children, the security of our seniors, the present and future hall of our people, the strength training and readiness of our armed forces, the growth of our economy and the creation of jobs, the viability of our properructure, the compensation and respect for those who labor in the public sector and most certainly the honoring of america's debt and obligations. today's bills undermines all of those priorities and more. i urgenot support it and my colleagues to oppose it. outontinues on the path set lee described by chairman rogers -- his words, not mine, as lurching path from fiscal crisis to fiscal crisis. i urge my colleagues with wisdom and courage on your side of the aisle to oppose this bill. dirty additional seconds?

>> the gentleman is recognized for 30 additional seconds. >> madam speaker, i am for a comprehensive, balanced and responsible policy that will put this nation on a fiscally sustainable path. been and continue to be willing to work with all my colleagues to adopt such a bill. i take nothing off the table. i believe it will take both reason and political courage to achieve such objectives. americans are hoping and yes writing we will have such wisdom and courage. i urge my colleagues to oppose this bill and commit themselves to adopting a bipartisan and effective alternative to this distractive and irrational path. i yield back the balance of my time. >> gentleman's time has expired. from kentucky is recognized. >> i yield one minute to the gentleman from hell for you, mr.

mcclintock. >> the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. the minority whip is dead wrong. this measure protects the full faith and credit of the united states by assuring our sovereign debt will be paid in full and on time. imperative our creditors know whatever battles rage in congress, their loans to the government are absolutely secure . our ability to pay all of our bills depends on our credit in this resolution guarantees it. it also addresses to fiscal concerns -- i'm getting frantic heartbreaking calls from folks who just received staggering increases in health and human who have been notified of their health plans being dropped or having their work hours cut back as a result of obamacare. this stops that train wreck. second, it is for limited duration. responsibility. they should only be used as

stopgap measures in this will does that. this keeps the government open while meeting these vital test. i yield back. >> the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. >> i am pleased to yield one minute to the gentleman from virginia. >> the gentleman from virginia is recognized for one minute great >> thank you. theses about more than throwaway provisions which we know are not going to be taken seriously and should not be by the senator by the country. but i'm going to oppose it for another reason. i used to be very proud of this institution. to go to my able community and many of those who serve as long as i have know what it was like to be proud to be a member of congress and know that we had improved the lives of our constituents and help them build bridges and buildings and roads that we could walk

through the campus proud of what biomedical for research, knowing we were improving lives in curing illnesses. we know what the government can do. this bill does not allow the government to do what can to improve the lives of our people trade we need to believe in this government again. we need to do what this congress was meant to do. we need to fund the government adequately to be a first class society with a first-class economy that can compete with them beat anyone. that's why we ought to vote against this. thank you. >> the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. >> i yield one minute to the of ourrking member appropriations committee, mr. nunley of mississippi. frome gentleman mississippi is recognized for one minute. >> thank you. i would like to thank the chairman for yielding and his

leadership. the people sent me to congress to help preserve liberty for future generations by limiting the government and growing the economy. there is not a single law worse limited government or job creation and obamacare. we must get rid of obamacare and replace it with a system that provides choice, lower cost, and put -- put patient in charge of their health care decisions. fory, we are standing up our principles, our constituents, and for americans. we will pass this bill today and i encourage my conservative colleagues to take up this fight suretand with us to make we defund obamacare. i yield back the balance of my time. >> the gentleman from kentucky reserves. >> i am pleased yield one minute to the distinguished gentlewoman from the district of columbia. >> the gentlewoman from the

district of columbia is recognized for one minute. >> all of us are trying to keep the government open, yet the federal government at the moment is engaged in contingency plans in case of a shut down and so the district of columbia because it budget is here. this eight ilion dollars in local funds right here because $3000 and $131,000 is what it cost us in 2011 to prepare for a shut down. when speaker newt gingrich was the speaker of the house, he worked with me to keep the district of columbia even as the federal government closed down because one thing that is clear, the only thing worse than closing down the united states government is closing down an innocent bystander with not a

dime in this fight, they capital city of the united states, free the budget of the district of columbia. don't close down the nations capital. >> the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. >> may i inquire as to the time remaining? >> there three minutes remaining. gentlewoman has two and a half its remaining. >> i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from nebraska. >> the gentlewoman from nebraska is recognized. >> the evidence is clear obamacare is actually hurting people. in the last week, i've heard from several constituents who told me they recently received their notice that they no longer have their insurance policy and must go into the exchange. cost anywhereill from 50% to 100% more and have

higher deductibles and co-pays. they are not sure what land they can go on or what the totality of the benefits and cost will be. on a fixed income and is older and may have to have a policy with coverage she doesn't want or need. i hear the heartbreaking stories like this are my constituents and these are just three real- obamacareles of how is truly hurting people and squeezing them. i want that to join us in act in gone in eliminating defunding obamacare. let's start over in a real bipartisan way and really help care theythat health need. >> the gentleman's time is expired. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. >> how much time do i have remaining? ask the gentlewoman from new york has two and a half minutes

remaining. >> madam speaker, yield myself the remaining time. >> madam speaker, the american people are counting on us to do our jobs, to work together, to create jobs, to keep the government open and keep the economy running. this is not the time or the bill relitigating health reform or holding up the administration possibility to protect the full faith and credit of the united states of america. with the great suffering in the wake of another national disaster -- another natural disaster in colorado, and my heart goes out to all those families who lost lives, who have lost loved ones, who have lost property, this is not the friend, to limit the

availability of the united states of america to his relief to those losing loved ones, homes and livelihood. republicans refuse to work together with the senate and white house to bring a constructive ease of legislation to this floor today. bill we we consider a know is destined for failure in the senate and would be vetoed by the white house area for months, the majority has failed to lead. they have refused to appoint members to work with the senate on a topline spending number. they cannot even pass their own spending bills in this chamber. we remember how the transportation and had bill had to be pulled off the floor because they couldn't find the votes. and today, they risk halting government services functions

vital to the american people and our economy. even when their own appropriations chairman, my friend, mr. rogers, has said we should end the sequester, find a balanced plan forward just days before the end of the fiscal year, they are still playing political games. i urge my colleagues to oppose this bill, support the responsible's plate -- responsible replacement of the sequester with a balanced plan to create jobs and keep our economy moving. benow we can do it. i would pleased to be part of that partnership with the chair, mr. rogers. >> the gentleman's time has expired. the tillman from kentucky is recognized for two remaining minutes. >> i think the speaker. cram speaker, we are doing a

even though the appropriations committee on the house side past 11 of the 12 bills through the committee. four of them across the floor of the house. waiting forg one is floor time as we have run out of time. consequently, this continuing resolution will continue the government passed the september dirtiest end of the fiscal year. we are unable to pass the appropriations bill singly on the floor because of lack of floor time. but also because the house and senate never agreed to an overall number to which we can mark. consequently, we were not able to bring those bills out because

of that limitation. this cr, if we are given a with which we need to mark the individual 12 bills, we will do so. this is a hard-working committee. we are pragmatists. toknow we have to pass bills pass the government. if we were intending to close down the government and should down we would not be here with this hill. we would just sit there. this is an effort by the majority party of the house to continue the government and avoid a shutdown while we work out the differences on these funding bills for fiscal or teen.

this continuing resolution is straightforward. it is clean, it is short term, incontinues reductions spending. we have cut discretionary spending the last two years by $120 billion. the first time that has occurred since world war ii. we are trying to be responsible. this bill is responsible and i urge a yes vote. >> after the debate and vote which passed 232 100 and nine, john boehner and republican leaders hope to reporters. [applause] >> good morning and thank you, everyone for joining us following this important vote.

today, the house is acted to keep the government open to control spending and protect people from an unworkable law making it harder on them. my colleagues have all voted in favor of this law because it's going to help moms and dads and young people and seniors all across this country. that is who this is all about august,n i was home in i heard this story from individuals and families who are concerned and panicked over the implementation of this bill and the effect it is having on their lives area that is white house has acted and today, we urge the senate to take action. we urge the american people to push the senate to have this important debate on the floor of

the senate because if we are going to take action on behalf of the american people, we need the senate to have this debate on the floor of the senate area -- on the floor of the senate. [applause] >> when we started this health care debate, the president led with a very big promise to the american people. -- if you like the health care you have, you can keep it. today, the headline reads 20,000 americans who work for home depot will no longer be the case. obamacare does not allow that. that is why it wasn't just a group of republicans but a partisan vote. want to make sure you write that correctly. vote. a bipartisan [applause]

it is a privilege to sit in this office and i will tell you this -- as the founders crafted this country, they crafted two bodies to work. the house has done their work and we call upon the senate to do theirs as well area -- to do theirs as well. [applause] >> the house has been fighting to stop obamacare since 2009. we have said over and over again this law is going to increase the cost of working middle-class family that we are now seeing from theve said beginning this law will harm our economy and we are seeing our economy turn from a full-time job economy into a our time job economy. that is why we are doing our job and it's up to senate democrats to show responsibility and follow the house's lead.

[applause] many senate republicans have calmest to leave no stone unturned fighting this bill and all of us here support that effort. [applause] we are calling on senate democrats to do the same thing. i want to know where senator pryor stands over protecting the middle class. from the consequences of this horrific bill. earlier this summer, a nonprofit group in fort smith, arkansas, that provides care for seniors announced they are cutting hours for hundreds of staff in verse 228 hours a week area kay hagan in north carolina. does she understand the consequences that obama care is having in her state? store the president has said it's not feasible or

sustainable to extend coverage for all the 1100 employees he has. he may have to cut hours for much of his workforce. what about mary landrieu of louisiana? her hard-is hurting working taxpayers in that state. in july, the owner of a diner told the senator at a committee hearing that he may have to lay off as many as 16 workers. middle-classking americans just trying to make ends meet. finally, what about mark a gauge of alaska? in alaska, it is pretty good premiums could rise between 30 and 80% grade what is the senator going to do about this? we are into the fight and we want the senate to join us.

[applause] >> we had a victory today for the american people. and we also had a victory for common sense. senator baucus said it right several months ago when he said this law is a train wreck. it is a train wreck. president said if we pass this law, health care costs will go down. now we find out health care costs are going up for most americans. the president said would you like to help -- if you like your health insurance also, you can keep it. now he found out that's not accurate either. millions of americans are going to find out it's just not quite true. constituentsng our

treated hurting the american people at a time when the economy is barely eking along, wages are not increasing and new jobs are not available. what are we doing? putting more cost and inconvenience on the american people. it is time for us to say no and stop this before it causes any more damage to american families and businesses. we've got businesses all over the country were not hiring because of the impact of this law. businesses reducing the hour for their employees because of this law. our message to the united states senate israel simple. the american people don't want the government shutdown and they don't want obama care. [applause]

the house has listened to the american people. now it's time for the united states and to listen as well area -- to listen as well. [applause]

>> last night, president obama talked about the house bill and the amendment to defend the health care law while he was speaking at the congressional black caucus awards dinner. seeing an extreme faction of these folks convincing their leadership to shut down the government if we don't shut down the affordable care act. some of them are actually willing to see the united states default on its obligations to plunge this country back into a

recession if they cannot deny the basic security of health care to millions of americans. is an interesting thing to ponder. that your top agenda is making sure 20 million people don't have health insurance. willing to shut down the government and potentially default for the first time in the united states history because it bothers you so much that we are going to make sure everybody has affordable health care. can,e say as clearly as i it is not going to happen. -- wee come too far area have come too far. we will not negotiate over whether or not america should keep its word and meet its obligations. we are not owing to allow anyone to inflict economic pain on a

millions of people just to make an ideological point and those folks are going to get some health care in this country. we have been waiting for years for it. [applause] it's time for these folks to stop the burning by crisis. start focusing on what really jobs,s. creating new growing our economy, expanding opportunity for ourselves, looking after our children, doing something about the violence out there. weekend on "newsmakers" the chairman of the republican studies committee talked about the health care law and the deficit. there is a public outcry going on throughout the country and the problem so many senators like senator landrieu in

louisiana, she's going to face reelection, how do they go home and they cast the deciding vote and say they're going to keep it in place even though the president has admitted it unworkable. there are aes back, lot of legislative tools we have available. the cr is one, the debt ceiling is coming up, and we land on tackling the debt ceiling and saying we're going to make sure the company pays our debts and make sure the health care law will be delayed and address the economy and put some revisions like the keystone pipeline in the bill and say this will create over 25,000 jobs. the president has turned those jobs away for now, but why don't we say yes and get our economy moving again. passills we are going to to the senate ensure we will keep government funded and address the problems like the health care law. this morning on fox news

sunday, senators ted cruz and claire mccaskill weighed in on the bill. the first order of business is to ask harry reid if you agree to allow amendments to be subject to a 60 vote threshold. that is typical in the senate. we have a lot of amendments subject to a 60 vote threshold. in all likelihood, he will say no because he wants to use brute lyrical power to push obamacare through, exactly the same way past the bill three years ago. if he does that, center republicans have the bill -- have the tool we always use when the majority leader is abusing his power, which is we can't deny cloture, filibuster and say theill not allow you to add funding back to obamacare with just 51 votes. >> sir, if i may, you say this is brute political power, others times you said it's a procedural gimmick. it is senate rule 22 which has been around for years. it's part of the senate rules and it says after you allow

debate and take cloture, that you can pass an amendment by simple majority. that's the rule. >> what's good for the goose is good for the gander. that's one rule but there's another rule that says it takes 60 votes to get cloture. we workthe reason why out an agreement for it to be subject to a 60 vote threshold is goingf the majority to run the minority over with the train, the minority has the ability to stop it. if harry reid says i'm going to run the republicans over, i'm going to ignore the bills passed by the house of representatives and i'm going to do this on a 51 vote threshold. from my mind, it should the an easy decision for center republicans to stand united in support house republicans. any vote for cloture to allow harry reid to allow funding for a 51 voltwith

threshold, a vote for cloture is a vote for obamacare. republicans will stand side-by-side with speaker boehner and house republicans listening to the people and stopping this train wreck. forces not rude political that is refusing to defund obamacare. it's called the american people and election. i don't think in america we should throw tantrums when we lose and threatened to shut down the government and refused to pay the bills. choicerican people had a last november between someone who said repeal obamacare and president obama. not since ronald reagan has a president been elected twice by more than 50% of the american people. look in the senate. every single democratic senator who voted for obamacare was reelected, most of them by double digits. and we didn't lose seats in the senate, we picked them up. even in the house, the democrats got more votes. gerrymandering gave them the majority.

how is thisk you, going to play out? >> i cannot believe they're going to throw a tantrum and throw the american people and our economic recovery under the bus. it is really going to hurt real people. and this is just political point making. running fort president with ted cruz. this is not meaningful statesmanship. this is doing what we are sent to washington to do, and that is optimize and run the government. let's sit at the table and try to make obamacare better. let sit at the table and talk about lower spending in our federal government. >> a senate will be in on monday. votes will not be held until tuesday. confirmation votes are scheduled tuesday just before noon and the senate is expected to take up all past and house to fund the federal government through mid-

december. lawmakers return on wednesday and they are preparing to tie a one-year increase in the debt limit to a one-year delay in health care law. you are going to head out now to the national mall where people are checking out the c-span bus which travels around the country. on the second day of the national book is tumbled. network, wenion have readings from the history and biography tends taking place talking with others on the sidelines and taking your phone calls grade that is underway now if you want to check that out on our companion network, c-span2 or online at www.c-span.org. president obama will be attending the memorial service for those killed at the washington navy yard. we will take you there for his remarks starting live at 5:00 and time. congress andnda in today's "washington journal." this is about 40 minutes.

host: the debate now moves to the senate. walk us through what we can expect tomorrow and tuesday. >> in light of the expected filibuster, i think you will see senator reed wrote to the floor and file cloture on the motion to proceed. he will probably move to block .ny and all amendments that will be successful. he will get the 60 votes and we will spend up to 30 hours post cloture on the so-called filibuster and wrap up either on friday or in the weekend, successfully sending the bill back to the house with the so-

called obamacare language strip out. as you know, this is an interesting situation that highlights how much of a joke this debate is. opposed toare obamacare are going to be in the unique position of filibustering thehill that strips out obamacare language, so i can't wait for this. >> this is the headline from the washington examiner -- can he what is house? different today under his leadership? lex i think you have seen this rise of outside groups that are now raising money on tactical strategy. freedom works, the club for fund, the conservatives they are going on fox news and other outlets, msnbc or whatever, advertising against republicans at raising money. that has made it much more

difficult for john boehner to have any kind of discipline in getting the team to work together. what we didn't have back then was a tea party. you didn't have these tea party republicans who don't identify with the leadership have their own power centers. outfall fromof the mccain feingold that has limited the role of local parties and outside groups much more ability to participate in the political process. that might be good in some ways but it is hard for john boehner to have discipline as a result. >> that like to come back to something we've talked about before, the institutional divide between house and senate. this is from senator rand paul who was speaking over the weekend. we probably cannot get rid of obamacare. he said it is unlikely, but

starting with our position, by not funding it, maybe we get a position where we make obamacare less bad. i think rand paul and ted cruz, they have fine tuned their strategy because they've gone in with the meat cleaver running these ads basically saying we promise you we are going to defund obamacare which they knew darn well that was going to be impossible. what we have here is a president to sign the law and the law is named after he was never going to repeal it. if you want to fix it, that's one thing and i think there is a lot to be fixed on. it istting rid of unrealistic when you have a senate controlled by the democrats and a president who actually signed the law initially who is named for it. the is the problem and

debate within the republican party still happening today. >> interestingly enough, i would not be doing my job if i didn't point out after that story ran yesterday afternoon, he and his staff tweeted furiously to remind everybody he did in fact support the repeal of obamacare. he knew the extent to which you try to manage it the best he shows there are about 40 or 50 house republicans now living in some sort of toernative reality, prepared vote against everything, especially if it has to do with the president grade for better or worse, i guess for worse, actually, there are increasingly more and more senate republicans that feel the same way. , he of principle, i'm not sure he has voted for one bill yet in the united till batch in the united states senate in his nine month or so that he has been here so far.

these folks are living in an alternative reality in this debate over the cr just highlights that. the fact of the matter is republicans have already lost on this debate. they can do it the easy way or the hard way, but they are going to lose on the crna are going to lose on the debt limit debate as well. this is from msnbc, congressman john effie. this runs about one minute. let's watch. >> we came out with our strategy that we're are going to vote on a cr to defund obamacare, give ted cruz and others what they wanted. several hours later, he sent out a press release saying we can't really hold the senate. we are not going to filibuster, we are not going to fight. and house has to hold. you should have been on the floor in the cloak room. there was so much anger and frustration because we have been abused by these guys for so long.

what you see happening now is people calling them out for the hypocrisy of these big, tough conservatives who know how to fight but will never get in the ring. they can hold a filibuster in the senate if they want, but they cannot hold the senate conservatives together. they can hold the senate and have this fight as long as they want, but they are not willing to do it. ashington goes to senator ted cruz. getting caught by your own site, you had the worst week in washington. what's going on? we won the argument on obamacare. he deserves some credit for

highlighting that. i think the tactics were kind of silly. we should not try to threaten us the shutdown of the government. this is really unpopular. a lot was passed and jammed down the throat of the american people. the more they know about it the more they see their premiums go up. there has got to be a way to fix it. repealing is almost impossible. he was not terribly amused by the commons. he promised that after a big picture in the house this will move to the senate where it belongs. i expect my colleagues to be up. it is put up or shut up. the irony of the situation is that

they are going to be filibustering a bill that does exactly what they want to do and that is stripped out obamacare. do you know what is funny about all of this? look, i am more than willing to concede that the administration has had a tough couple of months when it comes to syria for instance and the larry summers nomination. things got a little rocky there, but the fact of the matter is that one of the best things they have going for them right now is this republican on republican violence. the only thing that is going to happen coming out of this is that democrats are going to stand united with the president and take it on the republicans because all the proposals are wildly out of the mainstream and

vastly unpopular with the american people. guest: i think the republicans are much more lockstep in their attitude towards obamacare. he made some mistakes by not focusing how to fix it. it's not ready for prime time. the president acknowledged that when he delayed the implementation of a business mandate for your -- for a year. i think we should probably do the same thing for the rest of the american people. people want less spending from washington dc. they don't want their taxes to go up. so there are some -- there is some rhetoric and it gets over here it -- it gets overheated. i think that republicans are actually going to do well this next election because they are really where the people are, especially in their districts. >> i want to see if guest: i would make the observation that republicans lost some seats, but they did lose the house in 96 or 98. despite having some turbulent times. they definitely lost a lot of the momentum coming from the contract with america. they have a balanced budget or their economic budget as people may remember has been pretty

successful. not only have they gotten the ballots budget but a surplus. they lost the public relations war but i don't think they lost the policy war. guest: president clinton was elected in a landslide after said shutdown. it just highlights how out of step and out of reality these folks are and the revision of history that is going around that the 1995-96 shutdowns were not disastrous for the republicans. i don't have the faintest idea

what they are talking about and it shows how delusional they are. host: let me share with you two sentences from their piece this morning. guest: the only way you can really govern in a divided government is through crisis. it is not ready or nice or fun and we have this " perils of pauline" miniseries going on in congress where they are hanging off the cliff all the time but that's how you cut deals. whatever you learned when you were in middle school when you had to put off the term paper to the last possible moment, congress has taken that with them.

>> but they are not cutting deals, that is the issue. i don't agree with much of what he just said. you have 40 or 50 democrats -- 40 or 50 republicans in the house that are not prepared to accept anything. they have come to town to try to take that building down and tear it apart, prepare to vote no on everything, compromise is a dirty word to them. as you know, i worked for senator kennedy for 12 years. one of the highlights of his tenure was his belief and his willingness to try to cut deals and try to reach compromise, recognizing he may get half a loaf now but further in the future, you can continue to build on that. for many of these guys in the house and increasingly in the senate, that is not hardly work. it is my way or the highway.

you have many little dictators like ted cruz running around or david vitter last week trying to dictate how the united states senate will run and that's not how the process is set up. guest: david fitter said that congress should take the same responsibility under obamacare as the rest of the country. that's the mainstream. they will pass some stupid law -- that the american people want congress to abide by. the democrats are doing a slime campaign which is outrageous because they have a law they put on the american people. this is the problem. there has been some compromises. we got some stuff done with the 98% of the bush tax cuts that were enacted into law and we agreed on a process to get spending under control. it is not everything and there has been some hiccups along the way put i don't think they will shut the government down or default on the debt. host: the tom delay conviction was overturned, your former boss, what is your reaction? guest: "the new york times" and

"the washington post" editorialized in favor of tom delay. the prosecution against him was idiotic and so political. it's about time that justice was done. host: our guests are two veterans of capitol hill. we will get to your calls and comments and you can also send us an e-mail or send us a tweet. jim from greenville, south carolina, republican, what's on your mind? caller: i have two quick points for mr. manley. the last time we lost the election in 1997 -- 1998, bill clinton and that congress repealed glass-steagall and they did a whole revamping of the financial bill which led to the near catastrophe in the housing market and the banking sector. you mentioned the republicans are the far right are not living in reality but it is also the far left not reliving in reality. i watched c-span all the time and there is always left people

from the house saying that everyone should have mental health care and everybody should receive that. there is not enough mental health counselors qualified to even give everyone in this country unlimited health care for mental needs. what you guys would do and what the far left wants to do is basically tell the people who cannot afford it -- the people that can afford it that you get to only go for half an hour instead of an hour in counseling because we will ratify healthcare. guest: on point number one, agreed, that was the result of president clinton's time in office. on point number two, i am more than willing to agree that increasingly things on capitol

hill are becoming dominated by hyper artisanship on the left and the right. the left certainly is feeling their oats, if you will, after the summer's nomination. the tea party is alive and well in the united states house of representatives. guest: first of all, i would make the observation that larry summers did not get the fed chairmanship because of this backlash on glass-steagall repeal. that is where this anger toward those folks who did that in 1998 comes from.

the second point on mental health -- there is a real mental health crisis in this country. it is like a cancer. this is not something we've got to come to grips with it -- maybe not everyone should be mandated. it is very expensive but we should treat mental health as the real crisis it is and not ignore it. host: the house voted on friday afternoon to defund the president's health care law tied in with the cr that keeps the government running through december. even if that did not pass, we would still be doing this in a couple of months but the president traveled to a ford motor plant in kansas and talked about his legislative accomplishments a mastic way, obamacare. [video clip] >> unfortunately, there is a faction in the republican party, not everybody but it is a big faction who convinced their leadership to threaten a government shutdown and potentially threaten to not raise the debt ceiling if they cannot shut off the affordable care act, also known as obamacare.

think about this -- they are not talking now about spending cuts or entitlement reforms. now they are talking about something that has nothing to do with the budget, right? they are actually willing to plunge america into default if we cannot defund the affordable care act. let's put this in perspective -- the affordable care act has been in the law for 3.5 years after it passed both houses of congress and the supreme court ruled a constitutional and it was an issue in laster's election. the guide was running against me said he would repeal it and we won. host: the president last friday at a ford motor plant as he traveled and talked about jobs, the economy, and healthcare. i want to share with you what kathleen harker who is a supporter of the president talked about dealing obamacare --

what to you say to a supporter that says to delay this? guest: i categorically reject that suggestion. we have a healthcare system that is in crisis and changes need to occur. this was an attempt and i saw it all play out, to do the best job we could to put together the best health care proposal we with no help from republicans. with all due respect to kathleen, she may have heard deeply held views, but what i think is going on here is that republicans, similar to what they did with social security in 1990 -- in 2005 when they try to privatize it, democrats stood up and said this was an attack on the new deal.

this is nothing more than attack on the president's signature domestic policy initiative. the bottom line is that president obama is for it and they are against it. we are spending way too much on healthcare right now. doing nothing is not an alternative. let's get this thing up and running. let's modify it where we can. we would like to try to do it on the hill but republicans will not take any offer to try to modify it. they just want to repeal it. host: one of our viewers says --

guest: i don't think that's the case. the biggest fear is that it will push up dramatically the premiums and ends of the 40 hour workweek. president obama's biggest supporter is big labor and they aren't desperately afraid of this bill because they think it will and the 40 hour workweek. they want to delay it and they have written letters and done rallies. kathleen parker is more moderate. she's not really a supporter of the president but she nails it. host: she has been more supportive of the president over the last five years. guest: anyway, labor has been overwhelmingly supporter of the present and they do not like this bill. they are panicked about it because it will hurt working people. let's delay this for one year. let's give it a chance to get these exchanges up. this is right around the corner and this is not ready for prime time.

host: we will hear from congressman eric cantor in a moment but let's go to michigan, republican -- good morning. caller: good morning, i want to thank you for addressing mental health as it relates to having healthcare coverage print you kind of spoke out of your mouth both ways when you said delay it. you cannot delay mental health for a person, it does not work. in terms of big labor, as a child of a victory worker, my father, he would have supported the affordable care act. he is deceased. my brother still works for gm and does supported. - it. perhaps some people are afraid to lose those high-quality benefits and that's wrong. as far as mr. cantor, he has

been in one of the most beautiful late -- places in the world. what he doesn't see is his waters are polluted and have been for decades. host: senator rand paul was in mackinac island in michigan, not eric cantor. guest: it's beautiful up there. you are right, labor is worried about losing their benefits. there is a lot of people losing benefits. they are in fear of healthcare at higher costs. this law is a disaster. that's why the pew ratings are going down and that's why republicans are right about obamacare. they just picked the wrong strategy on how to get it

altered. host: we will go to susan joining us next from boston, independent. caller: thank you, c-span. i have a couple of questions. we have 12 mayoral candidates running on tuesday in boston. although i regret we are a one- party town, to a person, they articulate, creative -- they have great ideas. i think our city will be a great laboratory for innovation and cost effective but results oriented governing in the next decade or multiple decades. i have hope with the states and the cities. washington sold out in both houses. the far left, the far right and everybody in between has sold out to global business interests whose loyalties are not with our nation. they are financial robber barons of the world. they do not care about the

american public. i think the repeal of glass- steagall as well as the congressional redistricting which allow these crazy fringe, non-compromising, non- statesmanlike people to take over the halls of congress has been a disgrace. although i am not a liberal, i would agree with the wonderful tribute to senator kennedy -- like-minded great legislators of the past -- senator dole, these people have compromised. tip o'neill -- i can think of hundreds of republicans that represent this you those of taking half the low. with regard to healthcare, let's start it and let it lumber along. if we keep delaying it, we will never iron out the kinks. host: the front-page story of "the boston globe" -- a look at tuesday's mayoral primary. guest: i have more than a passing familiarity with that race because of former colleague

from my time with my work was senator kennedy is one of those currently on the city council. he is one of those running in that race. host: did you want to respond to her other points? guest: the only other thing i would say to that is john worked with someone who is willing to compromise when he worked with former congressman bob michael. guest: the leader, bob michael, a great american, worked closely with tip o'neill. they disagreed passionately on issues but they were able to get together and hammer out things. the guy who invented the phrase take half a loaf is ronald reagan. all those folks that say ronald reagan was a non-compromiser is not true. he worked for the betterment of the nation. what the caller was pointing to was this populist discontent with the financial system as it

is with globalization and with this idea that the world has destroyed jobs with exporting these jobs. there is probably an element of truth to that. we do need to focus on jobs and i think one of the worst aspects of this administration is the complete lack of focus on jobs. he is all over the place and is not talking about jobs. host: friday in washington after the house had voted on the continuing resolution and the health-care law, republican leaders spoke to reporters at an event sponsored by house speaker john boehner and among those speaking was eric cantor of virginia. [video clip] >> the house has been fighting to stop obamacare since 2009 and and we have said over and over again -- this law will increase the cost for the working middle class families of this country

and we are now seeing it. we have said from the beginning that this law will harm our economy and we are seeing our economy turned from a full-time job economy into a part-time job economy. that is why we are doing our job and now it is up to senate democrats to show some responsibility and follow the houses lead. [applause] many senate republicans have ron must to leave no stone unturned fighting this bill and all of us here support that effort. host: this is what the 43rd vote? guest: the republicans don't like obamacare, i don't know if you know this. they are working hard anyway they can to pass that message on to their constituents. the problem is the senate is controlled by senator reed, jim's old boss, and that

resident still has the veto pen so you can attack as many of these things as we want but what the divided government, you will not get much done. republicans need to pivot to a progrowth strategy because that's what the voters want. host: the next vote is raising the debt limit. guest: i could not agree more. well said -- as far as i am aware, we are the only major industrialized country that requires such a vote on the debt limit. it's an anomaly that exists nowhere else. i also agreed that it should be common routine vote but in recent years, it is not. the fact of the matter is, once we get the path to cr, these

guys will attach everything and the kitchen sink to the debt limit vote. i want to be very clear -- we just saw a bunch of republicans cheering, having a rally, cheering that they will shut down the government. if that's not incredibly cynical, i don't know what is. guest: they were not cheering that's -- they were cheering that the fact that they pass this to the senate and the upper body will get a chance to do what it will. this is the issue here. you really need to find a way to

reach common ground but the only way you can do that is when you have these types of crises. the debt limit is a speed bump. we have to slow down when we go over ace bead bump and find out where we are going as a nation. we are going bankrupt. the president says he will not negotiate over the debt limit. that is not -- we have to have a conversation about how we are not going to pass a $13 more onto our grandchildren. this is a debate that needs to happen and the only way you have that debate is by having a vote on the debt limit. i think it is an important vote and i hope we can have a bigger discussion not only about increasing the debt limit but also having a debate about how we will cut spending in the future. host: let's go to edward from georgia, republican line, good morning. caller: good morning. i appreciate you taking my call. i got one question -- there are so many things wrong with this

government. the main thing i want to know is -- why, if the obamacare is so good for everybody else, why exempt anybody? if it is not good for everybody, it should not be good at all. if everybody has to go on it, the government, the unions, and everybody else then tell everybody they are covered. we should not have it otherwise. i would like to know why it is not good for everyone. host: stay on the line and we will get a response and if you're not satisfied, you can follow up. guest: what can i say? as a strong proponent of single- payer, i could not agree with the caller more. i don't think that is necessarily what he means. let's be clear, single-payer healthcare were everyone is covered is the only way to go. the political reality was -- i was there -- we had to do whatever we could to put together a bill that eventually passed.

i don't think there is anything wrong with compromises and tweaks if something is not working right to try to make it better. like i said, the republicans are the ones that prevented us from doing universal healthcare, so- called single-payer. we have cobbled together a bill that by all estimates will cover at least one 2 million more additional americans. guest: big business already has their exemption. big labor wants their exemption and now congress is really furious because they say congress should not get an exemption. you are absolutely right, if you're going to have a law like this, you cannot do special favors to your friends. it does not work at way. host: did that answer your question?

caller: yes, like i say, everybody under it or nobody under it. this president will have a legacy -- the only thing i can see he has accomplished is he have moved jimmy carter up from the worst president to next to the worst president. thank you for taking my call. host: thank you. host: this is for you -- guest: probably 44.

at some point in time, republicans will have to accept the reality that the president will not sign or appeal so they have to embark on a strategy to fix it. they have been loathe to do that because of, care is not fixable in their minds. there are many things that could be fixed. the first tweet -- the government provides essential services. it is not necessarily supposed to be a for-profit organization but i think there needs to be strict looking at how the money goes out. taxpayer money is wasted on a lot of different things. host: bethlehem, pennsylvania, democrats line, welcome to the program. caller: array to the lady of massachusetts who has the most sense of anyone who calls. you have to be more specific

when you talk about things like redistricting. north carolina had nine republicans elected and only four democrats elected to the house and those for democrats had 81,000 more votes than those nine republicans. it's amazing how democracy works when you're totally unfair? it's impossible to a wide in the long run. we have no democracy anymore. let's get real here. are we in a retarded democracy? thank you very much. host: tied into that is this tweet -- based on his: this point, let me go back to something you said earlier. what about working on compromise? guest: that's a good question and i think what has happened

and tends to happen in divided government is that you only get compromise when you have to make compromise per you only reach a deal when it is essential to reach a deal. the president has not done much work on the hill. he does not kind of to the real hard work of getting congress in a room and working together. i think you deserve some blame but the redistricting is a big part of it. you have extremes on both sides. this has been with america a while and comes and goes and is a little worse now than it has been. the 2010 election was a real rejection of president obama and with it swept and a lot of state legislatures that gave a lot of republicans the ability to draw maps as they see fit.

compromise is hard and the other truth here is that we have a big country and there is a wide gap in perceptions and expectations between more urban areas and the more rural areas. sometimes reaching agreement on the best way forward for the country is not that easy. host: you spent most of your government service on capitol hill on the house side than on the senate side, why? guest: a love of politics, love of policy and the chance to work with people that were going to affect change for the better. host: but you never worked on the house side? guest: i had a chance over the 21 years and the senate to start of working for then majority leader george mitchell as a press assistant and his office where i was the guy that did the clips. then i spent 12 years with senator kennedy as his press secretary on health, education, and labor pensions committee where i saw him do numerous

deals with then congressman john boehner on no child left behind, pension reform and other legislation and i had a chance to work for the democratic leader, harry reid for six years, serving as senior communications advisor. i got extraordinarily lucky. it was not just because of smarts but a willingness to work hard and get the job done. i just never felt the need to go to the house. i thank the lord above that i got lucky working for the three people that i did. guest: you never went to the senate, you just stayed in the house. guest: the upper chamber is too noisy toy the four may. i have a bipartisan marriage. i span 15 years in the house and work for michael, tom delay and i had great bosses, all three of them had different strengths and i learned a lot from all of

them. you kind of gain expertise and after my 15 years on the house side, i think i did my government service. i moved on. the house has its strengths. the senate is a more diffuse body. they tend to do more debating over there and we kind of get stuff done. i like places where they get stuff done. host: if you could put a percentage, what is the likelihood we would see a government shut down october 1? guest: i think it's about 30%. it would be a short-term government shut down unlike when

i worked for tom delay and the newt gingrich leadership, this leadership understands that shutting down the government is not really in their best strategic interest. i don't think it will happen. i think they will find a way to reach agreement to keep the government open even if it is a short term scenario. host: that -- if the house is presented with a clean cr as senator reed takes out the funding measure, what will happen? guest: the leadership will then be stuck with the question of whether to accept that and live to fight another day on the debt limit or if they will make some modifications and set it back -- and send it back to the senate days before the october 1 deadline and try to " jam the senate." they might take away health care coverage for congressional staff members, for instance. i need to get this off my chest -- as got is my witness, i don't understand how we got in the situation where republicans are citing a bill to provide health care for 20 million americans as an excuse to take away health care for congressional staff and

members. members want to opt out, that's fine but many large employers in this country offer health care. there is no reason the united states should not offer it as well. anyways, sorry to go off on a tangent. i think that's what will happen. the question is whether they will try to send it back to the senate one more time or whether smart morning we will have the president of a committee for a responsible federal budget. she will talk about the potential for a government shutdown. we will also hear from jay hancock about the affordable care act and how this affects workers. and how members of congress spend tax dollars overseas. we will hear from philip swarts.

all that tomorrow morning live at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. tweetingf congress are about the budget legislation in washington. morgan griffith writes that the aree of representatives putting this through. chris murphy held a town hall in his home state of connecticut today. he tweets to discuss real-world impact of reckless d.c. budget games. barbara mikulski mentions today navy yard memorial. they're headed to memorial with president obama by those affected by senseless tragedy. we will bring you live coverage at 5:00 p.m. eastern here on c- span. live today. today,the national mall they are letting people check bear.e

the we are hearing from one of the authors there now. you can check this out on our companion network and also online. >> the subject of whistleblowers is a very important and sensitive subject. on whistleblowers. it is important they feel comfortable and saying i have information that you need to concerned am very about a potential reprisal. that the statute requires us to extend protections. we will do ishat

them protections to say to the extent you can give us specific information, that is much more helpful. sometimes in the course of providing specific information. this is to the identity of the whistleblower. you need to be aware of this risk. >> more with phyllis and the role of the inspector general. tonight at 8:00. >> last week the ceo of berkshire hathaway spoke at georgetown university. he talked about philanthropy and the economy. he was interviewed by the ceo of bank of america brian moynihan. he talked about one hour.

[applause] >> good evening, georgetown. it is a pleasure to be here. for those of you who were here last year, we had bono come talk to you about what he did. this year, i was thinking about who we should bring in. i talked to bono and he said if you want to bring a real rock star, bring warren buffett. he has done things that i could never do. last year we brought you a rock star. this year, we brought you a real rock star. [applause] i am going to ask warren buffett a few questions and then we will take your questions in the crowd. i will start where the president

left off. this is your hometown. what are your best memories of being around georgetown? >> i delivered papers in georgetown 66 years ago. i developed this affinity because in the hospital, people tipped. my regular customers, the ones who knew me, never tipped. one of the things they would do, they would give me cash checks. it would also tell me if a woman would give birth to a baby that was eight pounds. the numbers racket was big and they thought they were giving me this terribly valuable information. i have a lot of memories of georgetown. i was here during world war ii, which was a fascinating time to be in washington.

it was really a window on an extraordinary time in america. at that time, we were probably more united than anytime in my lifetime around a common goal. time when people went down and enlisted when the war broke out and people did so voluntarily at a high percentage. they played by the rules. we all bought savings bonds at schools to help out the troops. it was crap -- quite a time. >> somewhere along the line you started investing. i have read stories that you started investing at her team. >> 11.

>> what created the fascination with investing? >> i had to save $120. it took me five years to save $120. my dad originally was in the investment business. he was not interested in it. i would go down saturday morning and he had these books in the office and i had read all of them. i had read all of the books in the library on investing by the time we moved to washington. when i got here, there was the library of congress. i found it fascinating. incidentally, i find it fascinating today. it is an activity. if you are a baseball player, your legs may go. my legs have long gone, but it doesn't make any difference what i do. i have always had fun working. i have as much fun now as i have

had in my life. i am doing what i love you and it does not get any better than that. >> do you tap dance to work everyday? >> to demonstrate. >> it was nice to get that round of applause at the start. but i am 83 and they are not sure if i will be around at the end of the talk. >> you have more energy than anyone i know. you talked about the giving pledge. how did you come up with the idea and how are you doing on it? >> it was three or four years ago. bill and melinda and i were in california talking. we decided to call david rockefeller and asked if he would host a dinner in new york for about 16 or 18 people to

talk about philanthropy. oprah winfrey came and mayor bloomberg was there. i started having these people talk around the table as to how they developed their philosophy on philanthropy. people were really interested in it. we thought maybe there would be a possibility of taken this -- taking this passion people have shown an going to other people who have a great deal of money to see if we could develop something where people would pledge at least half of their net worth. we now have about 115 people. i have been dialing for dollars. i call these billionaires up. sometimes, they tell me how they cannot do it. i tell them i will write a book on how to live on $500 million. they cannot seem to figure out how to do it.

they need help. it has been very rewording. i received a letter from one woman. she and her -- it has been very rewarding. she said they had not really faced it. she and her husband had changed things. over half of that $10 billion was going to go to philanthropy. they do tend to postpone decisions. i tell them the last will is what counts. i am talking to a 70-year-old and i tell them, do you really think your decision-making ability will be better with some blonde on your lap? let's get on board now. [laughter] bill has gotten people around the world because he travels

more than i do. what we are hoping is that people pick up on norms. when i was young, i read about carnegie and rockefeller. you pick up the savior from those who come before. -- behavior from those who come before. we have the letters that are up on the website and they are pretty remarkable. we want to get the young people like arc zuckerberg to join us. he will a -- like mark zuckerberg to join us. he will appeal to a younger group. we hope it will become this gospel of wealth that andrew carnegie came up with. we have got better stories than that in these letters. i will emphasize one thing. nobody in our group has given away a dollar that anyway affects how they live.

i have greater admiration for the person who robs one dollar or five dollar -- drops one dollar or five dollars in a collection plate. they are giving up something that has utility to them. i am giving up nothing that has utility to me. i have everything i wanted that could be bought by money. i have a whole lot of stocks that have no utility to me. they could have utility to other people. people who give up something that actually can have utility to their family and give that to some other person so that it has utility, those are the people who deserve the kudos. it is still nice to go where the money is, though willie sutton approach.

if we can work on polio, something that takes contributions, we will go after it. >> the unique thing you have done is bill and melinda gates and the foundation. the other thing is almost all of your wealth. talk about the gates foundation as opposed to your own foundation. >> originally, my wife and i planned when we were in our 20s that when we had everything we needed, we would give the rest to society. i thought she would outlive me because women live longer. she died in 2004. i had to come out -- come up with a different plan. if you are good at one thing, you are not necessarily good at another. you need to get someone and give where your talents are more useful. when my wife had babies, i went to an obstetrician. i did not deliver them myself. i wanted to go to people who

were good at giving away money and who were younger, energetic, smart, and had the same of captives in philanthropy. the basic principle is that every human life has equal value. if you start with that as your basic assumption, a lot of things flow from that. i have foundations for each one of my three children that are a significant size. you can read the letters that i wrote them on the berkshire hathaway website. i tell them if they succeed at everything they do in philanthropy, they are doing the wrong things. the important ones are the tough ones and you are going to fail at some of those. i have very energetic people, common objectives, and they work for nothing. that is not a bad deal. >> that stretches the money a long way.

what i read is that you require them to move the money out. >> they have to spend it. when i die, all of the money has to be spent within 10 years after the estate is closed. i cannot pick out some great, great grandchild. you have to be born. they will be the best facilitators. i won the money to get spent properly. i do not -- want the money to get spent properly. i do not believe and controlling beyond the grave. i can't think outside the box, but inking outside that particular box about -- [laughter] >> recently, i read an article about eastlake. c.j. finishes his term at eastlake, a golf course in atlanta. there is development work that he does with communities.

talk a little about that. >> it is the same thing about loving people who are putting in their own time and energy and are successful into a project that is worthwhile. he is an extraordinary man. he took this terrible neighborhood called eastlake in atlanta and against a lot of community opposition -- it was crime-ridden and he decided he had to apply a holistic approach to it. he could not just attack this thing or that thing. he worked 10 years to develop this entirely new community out of this total disaster. we talked about it and he said, everybody is going to say that can only be done because you are tom cousins and you live in atlanta.

he and i and julian robertson decided to see if we could replicate this in other communities. new orleans was a great way to do it. they have been harassed by katrina and other things. we took it to new orleans, where we had hundreds of people. it is a mixed income-type community. we do not want to have it with everyone subsidize. we want to create a new kind of community were different races and different people work together. we went to indianapolis and it has been successful there. tom cousins has come up with something. he had an op-ed in the wall street journal about a week ago. when you get a chance to join forces with somebody who is as

high quality as that in energetic and smart and putting his own funds in it, you have to jump at the chance. >> we will switch from philanthropy to the economy. you can do these wonderful and great things. what do you see in your operating companies from an investor's point of view? >> business has come out well from five years ago and the panic. we were right on the edge of the cliff. i give enormous credit to ben bernanke and hank paulson and tim geithner and frankly, even though i did not vote bank for him, president bush.

people -- and, frankly, even though i did not vote for him, president bush. he really came out with a great economic insight and he did it with 10 words in september of 2008. he said, if money doesn't loosen up, this sucker could go down. [applause] and he backed up those fellows. we have come back from it. this news has come back. a lot of companies are having record profits, including a lot of hours. the american populace has not come back. the forbes 400, which just came out, showed aggregate wealth of

the forbes 400 of $2 trillion. $300 billion to $2 trillion. the median income is in the same place in terms of real purchasing power. since 1989, it has not changed. inequality is getting wider. the rich are doing extraordinarily well. this is profit margins are terrific compared to the record, historically. is this returns on equity are terrific. a great many people in our country -- taken the bottom 20 %, 24 million households -- 20%, 24 million households, live on $22,000. we have any, need -- an economy that is delivering $50,000 on gdp.

we have not learned how to have everyone share in the bounty we have. >> do you think we just have to grow out of it? >> we are growing. if you think about it, people are still unhappy with two percent a year. the population rose one percent a year. in 20 years, that is a 20% gain in gdp per capita. that is not bad in a generation. the question is how it gets distributed. this system works. i was born in 19 30. i was conceived in 19 -- i was born in 1930. i was conceived in 1929. after the stock market crash, he

did not -- my father did not have anything to do. i look back with great fondness on the 1929 crash. since i was born in 1930, real gdp has increased f sixor 1. we went centuries -- since i was born in 1930, real gdp has increased 6 for 1. it is a fabulous country. in my view, we have to make sure everybody participates to a reasonable degree. we do not want to eat quality of results -- equality of results. >> you talked about the george bush economic statement about it could go down. what do you think the lessons are from the last couple of

cycles? we have a lot of young kids out there. you have lived through a lot of cycles in the 50 or 60 years you have been investing. >> 70 years. >> what should young people take away? >> the lessons are people will continue to make the same mistakes they have made. it does not correlate to iq. when they get greedy and we have this huge bubble in the most important asset in housing -- you had a huge bubble in something you could borrow heavily against. the conditions got very lax. when that bubble popped, people came into that gradually. when they get fearful, it happens all at once. we had them all leave at one time. that will happen again with a different set of circumstances. the human animal will keep behaving pretty much the way it

has in the past. we've had periodic recessions. we have the occasional panic. all recessions do not come from panics. if you look at the 20th century, in the 20th century we had two world wars. we have the great depression, the flu epidemic, the cold war, the atom bomb. the dow jones average went from 66 to 11,497 with all of these world wars. we have the great depression, the flu epidemic, the cold war, the atom bomb. the dow jones average went from 66 to 11,497 with all of these terrible things happening. america works. when i bought my first stock when i was 11, that was in the spring of 1942. that was a few months after pearl harbor. we were getting clobbered in the south pacific. the blitz was on and the dow was

about 100. look at where we are now. it seems to me the obligation of a six i.t. as diverse -- obligation of a society as diverse as ours is to see that no one gets left behind. >> last year, bono's speech was one of the best speeches about american optimism that you could have by a person who is not an american by birth. what makes you optimistic about the next decade in america? >> imagine 1789. go back a few hundred years. there was nothing here. the guy who designed st. paul's cathedral is buried there. there is a plaque that says, if you seek my monument -- we had less than 4 million people when

we became a country. china had 300 million people at that time. a were just as smart as we were. they had natural resources similar to ours. we end up with a quarter of the world's gdp. we have got something that works and we do not want to mess that up. we want to figure out what to do with it. you do not have to worry about the system working. you will have periodic recessions and occasional panic brought on by something and who knows where it comes from. i wrote an op-ed piece in the

new york times in the fall of 2008. i said the country will come back. it will go through a recession and it will come back and it is coming back. don't ever worry about america. you are in the right place. >> you have been famous about your investment strategy. that has served you well. what is your favorite time you are able to accomplish that? >> i would say my favorite time is going to be tomorrow. it has always been fun. there is a company here in washington called geico. i first got exposed to that in 1950. it was 1951, i am sorry. i was 21 years old. i came down on a saturday because i learned that my professor was the chairman. i got down there in the door was locked. it was a saturday and i pounded on the door and a janitor let me

in. there was someone who spent four hours with me. when you get to be my age, you realize all of the help you have received from other people. obama got in trouble when he said that on the campaign. nobody does it by themselves. we all sit in the shade of trees planted by others. we need to plant a few trees ourselves if we have had good luck. it has been a great ride, but it is not over. >> when did you actually buygeic -- buy geico?

when did you invest for the first time? >> i went out to my aunt alice and she would have bought anything from me. she bought 100 shares of stock from me. the first stock i ever sold. a lot of years past and mr. davidson was kind to me in a variety of ways. i went in different directions. in 1976, he got into a lot of trouble. they miscalculated their reserves and they were going broke. i came back and bought a third of the company in a short time. in 1995, one third had become a half because they had re- purchased their shares. mr. davidson had a bunch of stock in geico. i said, if i make an offer for this company for cash, you are going to pay a big tax. i am not going to make this offer unless it is alright with you. he said, i have offered this all my life. so we bought the rest of the

company. >> let's turn it over to some student questions. they will put a microphone out here and we will have you queue up if you have questions for warren. all right. let's take the first question. tell us who you are and ask away. >> i am a senior. i was wondering if you have any stock tips for the students. we are trying to make a little living. >> i didn't think they taught

that at georgetown. i bought a book in 1949 called the intelligent investor. i do not remember what i paid. aside from what i paid for my two marriage licenses, that was the best investment i ever made. it is very important to have the right framework. you need to have an approach to investing that is sound. the graham approach is simple. some people adopt to it, which i did immediately, and most people do not. if you have the right philosophy, you will find opportunities as you go through

the next 20, 30, 40, 50 years. you are more likely to find them in times like five years ago when we were having the panic. stocks sell at silly prices from time to time. most stocks will sell at silly prices at some point. it does not take a high iq to figure out that they are cheap. it does take a temperament that is willing to step up. i tell people, if they are going into the investment business and they have 160 iq, sell 30 points to someone else because you will not need it. you do not have to be that smart in this business but you have to have the right temperament. it have to be able to ignore

what other people are saying and simply look at the facts and decide, is this stock selling for x with 2x? that is my generalized stock tip. no names. >> i will make it simple. us by bank of america. -- just by bank of america -- buy banc of america. >> good afternoon. my name is nicholas -- bank of america. >> good afternoon. my name is nicholas walker. are you tempted to venture into the brazil market next? >> you did the heinz deal. the question is, are you going to invest in brazil next. >> i do not know where i will invest next. if you went out and laid golf and every drive when in the hole, you would give up. the game would not be interesting. i love the fact that i do not

know what you'll sway going to do next. in 2000 -- i love the fact that i do not know what i will do next. in 2006, someone said, i want to tell you a little bit about my company. he said if his family sold his company, the only company they wanted to sell it to was berkshire hathaway. they would come over from israel to talk to me. next. in 2006, someone said, i want to i e-mailed them and they came over very shortly and we bought the business. we handed them $4 billion for 80% of the company. i said, i do not go to council bluffs iowa. i am doing fine in omaha. he said, you have to see it.

i said, we can make a deal without seeing it. we bought the company and i went over there and it is true. i had never seen plants like this. someone said to me, that's why i wanted you to come over. i said, if i had seen them, i would have paid more money. we have a wonderful partnership with the people in israel. our partnership with the people in brazil -- they are sensational people. i was on the board of gillette. the opportunity to buy into a wonderful business like heinz -- they do all of the heavy lifting. it is a great opportunity for

us. i do not know what the opportunity will be tomorrow. last december, i was going out to boulder, colorado. he said, i have an idea that might interest you. as i came back on the plane, he said -- i said,, i'm in. after i said that, he sent me a one-page governance description of how it would work between the two of us. he sent me a brief description of what he thought would be a fair deal between us. i did not have to change a word. that is the kind of people you want to work with. >> you mentioned that people will make the same mistakes in

terms of the boom-bust cycle. there have been recent developments, such as the creation of derivatives that hasn't -- have exploded recently. he once called derivatives weapons of mass destruction. relatives are a 700 trillion dollar industry. do you see this -- $700 trillion dollar industry. do you see this as where the next crash will be? >> they enacted. frank. -- they enacted dodd-frank. they poured $485 billion into aig. hank paulson guaranteed money market funds at a time when 30 million americans with money market funds were panicking. $300 billion in three days had gone out of the non-government market funds. re-hundred billion dollars. that was almost equal to the deposits of wells fargo or

walkover via -- wachovia. i do not think they can do that under dodd-frank. i do not think burning he did and i do not think hank paulson could do what he did. when there is a panic, the only thing that will stop it is when somebody who has the ability and the will says, i am going to do whatever it takes. that is what bernanke and paulson and congress said to the

american public. if bernanke said, i will do whatever it takes, he did it. they called it the change stabilization fund of the treasury. it was enacted in 1934. you had these strong characters who had the ability to print money. they said, we will do whatever it takes and the president was behind them. that is the way to in the real panic. congress does not like to give anybody that kind of authority. i tip my hat to them. there will be another panic. where it comes from, who knows? when that time comes, the question will be, will the people who caused the economic engine to stop come back and be doing something? i am not sure what has been

enacted is a plus or a minus. regardless, the country will come through. it is hard to write regulations that will keep people from acting foolishly, particularly when acting foolishly has been proving -- has been proven profitable. humans all think they are cinderella at the ball. as the night goes along, the music it's better and the drinks the music gets better and the drinks flow. there are no clocks on the wall and they are still dance in. it will happen again. but buy when it happens. i will be buying. >> my name is john ross. i am from georgia. you talk little bit about income inequality. you look at class mobility rates

i am from georgia. and average household income for middle-class families measured with inflation. a lot of these rates have been trimming down since the 1970s. some would argue that it is harder today for the middle class than it has been in 30 years. i was wondering if you have any thoughts on how a rising tide can it all holds -- boats. >> that is what john f. kennedy talked about, a rising tide lifting all yachts. there is a structural problem as the market system gets more structural lies. if you go back to an agrarian society, most people fit most job requirements. the world has become more and more specialized. we keep moving away from that. the market system will not pay well significant percentage of society. they are not needed to keep gdp

itself. government has to entrust that. i sometimes tossed out to students this proposition. imagine that it is 24 hours before you are born and you are sitting there, johnny or joni, and you are in the womb, and a genie comes and says, you strike me as a remarkable human being. i am going to give you an enormous responsibility. i will let you decide how the world is going to work into enormous responsibility. which you are going to emerge you can decide on the economic

system, the social system, the political system. whatever you design, that will be the system in which you live, your children live, your grandchildren live. you are wise beyond your minus 24 hours of age. you say, what is the catch? just before you emerge, having designed the system, you are going to go over that there'll that has b --arrekk -- barrell that has a slip for every person on the planet. it may say united states or it

may say bangladesh. not knowing which ticket you were going to pull out, which -- what kind of world do you want to design? you want to design a world that produces lots of business services. you want a lot of stuff around. it could be the world's terrorist society, but if it is on a barren island, it does not work. you certainly want something that it laminates fear from everybody's life. that means fear of old age, fear of health, all of those problems. you want a system that takes care of the people who do not survive in that market system. i think we have done a wonderful job at the first stage. we have turned out lots of stuff. this country has developed in thinking how a rich family has behaved. we need to focus more on making sure that people who get the bad tickets do better than they are. we said that blacks or slaves were 3/5 of a person. we said all men were created

equal but then we said blacks were 3/5 of a person. it was 1920 before we passed the 19th amendment for women. we treated women as an essentially different class all of those years. we have gone significantly in the right direction in terms of behaving as a society. i think we have to a dress the question of how do you treat the people left behind in -- address the question of how do you treat the people left behind. >> i am in the school of foreign service, first year. you are an outspoken fan of ben bernanke.

he will be stepping down in january of next year. whomever takes over the position, should they continue the controversial buyback program and if so, for how long? >> they should take bernanke's approach. it means more improvement in the economy. i am not hugely disappointed, but mildly disappointed in the rate of improvement in the economy in the last few years. just the other day, he said he would extend it further. he is not pre-judging exactly when it is going to happen.

he is telling the conditions under which it will change. the economy is getting better. we are in an experiment that has not been tried before. the fed has a 3.5 trillion dollar balance sheet. buying securities is usually easier than selling securities. we do not know how this game plays out. just the announcement a few months ago that the tapering would occur had a significant market reaction, probably 100 basis points. what will happen if they actually deleverage the fed? if the fed deleverage is that in a big way, that -- deleverages that in a big way, it will be a the fed has a 3.5 trillion big deal. >> the peace people do not take into account is that they will stay there -- piece people don't

take into account is that they will stay there. >> they got about 1.8 trillion dollars. the fed is the fourth largest contributor to the united states government's revenues that there is now. it is under no pressure. if you have somebody wise, and i think bernanke is wise and i expect his successor to be -- it can be handled. it is something that has not been done on this scale. >> we have seen the market moving ahead and back based on the last few days. we will take one more question. >> i am from china. i am a graduate student at georgetown.

my friends and i are a big fan of you. we read your book and you had a system of criteria on how to evaluate a company. it is confusion -- confusing but you said we are always staying away from an industry we do not know. the world is changing. we are living in a new era. the business models are changing. everybody is shopping online. in a few years, maybe everybody

will pay with their iphone. non--profit is a new model. -- non-moffett is a new model. -- non-profit is a new model. >> he has a flip phone he wants to show you. lex i just turned in the one alexander graham -- >> i just turned in the one alexander graham bell gave me. >> in the venture capital industry, what is the most important thing in evaluating a company? i am not asking about doing average, but about excellent or remarkable. name one aim. -- thing. >> the most important thing is to be able to define which one you can come to an intelligent decision on and which ones are beyond your capacity to evaluate. i met bill gates in 1991. he said, you have to have a computer. i said why and he said, you can do your income tax on it. i said, i do not have an income.

he said you can take -- you can keep track of your portfolio. he said, i only have one stock. he said, it is going to change everything. i said, will it change whether or not people will chew gum, and he said it will change the kind of gum that people chew. there are all kinds of businesses people use. i am able to understand some given percentage. there was a book called the science of hitting. you have a diagram and the strike zone is divided into 77 squares.

he says, if i only swing at pitches in my swing zone, it shows what the batting average will be. he said, the most important thing in hitting is waiting for the right pitch. he was at a disadvantage. even if he was only going to bat to 30 -- 230. he still had to swing. i only get a strike called if i swing at a pitch. i can look at thousands of companies day after day.

only when i see something i understand and when i like the prices that are selling, it is a strike. it is an enormously advantageous thing. it is a terrible mistake to think you need to have an opinion on everything. you only have to have an opinion on a few things. i have told students that if they got a punchcard with 20 punches on it and that was all of the investment decisions they had to make their entire life, they would hit very rich because they had to think about each one. you do not need 20 investments to get rich. 4 or 5 would be enough. if you understand some of these businesses coming along and you can spot things -- amazon is a tremendous accomplishment.

i tip my hat to him. he is a wonderful businessman and a good guy. what i have anticipated he would be the success and 10 others would not be? i am not good enough to do that. i did form an opinion on bank of america and i formed an opinion on coca cola. there are 1.8 billion eight ounce servings of coca-cola products sold every day. if you take one penny and get one penny extra at $18 million a day and 18 million times 365 is 700 or 80 billion annually six billion 700 -- annually, $6 billion. those are the kind of decisions i like to make. you might have an entirely

different field of expertise than i have you can get very rich if you just understand a few of them. we go intoheinz -- we go into heinz and we looked at people pouring ketchup on hamburgers. some products do not travel well. cap berry bars in england, -- cadbury bars in england do not sell very well here. >> thank you. [applause]

warren, i want to thank you for taking the time to work with the students today. this is a person with a passion he still has an 83 to make right investment decisions. the ability to try to do something with all of that wealth that will help a near- term set of goals in society. you will find few people in the world able to do things that well. thank you. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013]

>> a memorial about to begin near the marine corps barracks, murmur -- memorializing the victims of last week's shootings. obama and his wife are meeting with family members of the victims. we will have the event live for you here on c-span. you can see that family members taking their seats now. also in attendance, ella for -- , as well as chuck hagel. before the service begins we will take a look at some of his review of security at military installations. >> we will return to the marine barracks when the services begin. in the meantime, the secretaries review is about 25 minutes.

>> hi. good morning. me begin with a few words about monday's tragedy. as the investigation proceeds into the shooting at the washington navy yard, i have been consulting closely with dod's leadership, including secretary mavis and the chief of naval operations, admiral greener. lawell as with federal enforcement officials. yesterday i conferred with law , thecement directors attorney general, and president obama. at first our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and have families and all who been affected by what happened

at the navy shipyard on monday. we will grieve, we will remember , we will comfort each other. the department of defense is a strong and resilient community and we will do everything we can to help our colleagues get through this terrible, terrible time. in the coming days more information will come to light about what happened, about what went wrong and, importantly, what must he fixed. yesterday i conducted tw oh departmentwide reviews. these reviews will be led by carter.y ash we will do everything possible to prevent this from happening again. first, a review of physical security access procedures at worldwide.tallations the highest responsibilities

that leaders have are to take care of their people and our people deserve safe and secure workplaces, wherever they are. deputy secretary carter will lead a review of practice procedures for granting and renewing security clearances, including those held by congress . this review will be closely coordinated with federal agencies examining these features, including the dni and omb. have directed an independent panel to be established that will conduct its own assessment and our clearance procedure practices. their work will strengthen the secretaries efforts and they will provide their findings directly to me. the department of defense will carefully examine the conclusions and recommendations within the reviews and we will effectively implement them. navy is conducting its own

review and those results will bleed into the rotter department of defense review worldwide. where there are gaps, we will close them. where there are inadequacies, we .ill address them where there are failures, we will correct them. we know the victims, we know their families. >> thank you, secretary. i wanted to add my condolences over monday's horrific shootings at the navy yard. i want -- my heart goes out to those involved. while i cannot discuss the details of an ongoing investigation, i can discuss the bravery of the first responders. even in the midst of tragedy or -- midst of tragedy, there are moments of triumph. ,ur military police and emt's

there were other unseen moments iat were equally heraldic. was especially inspired by the story of omar brandt, a civilian employee who helped a blind , running towards danger to help someone in need. our military family will continue to help those in need. the secretary of the navy has .rovided designee status there is a series of military chaplains in the area to administer to those in need and counseling services are available for all those affected the rampage on monday. i look forward to your questions. >> [indiscernible] general public [indiscernible] bradley manning,

and now this, it looks as though -- there are studies that something may happen again. you did extensive studies after the impound incident. what changes were not made then that should have been made? are there gaps? securitylook at clearances, should we lower the bar to include more personal information? take note of more personal information? >> first, obviously something went wrong. that is in the point of the directives in the reviews i have made. as i said in my comments, we will review everything. from that review, the intensity of that review, the depth withed to in that review,

the question -- how can we do it better? starting with monday's tragedy, we dou mentioned others, not live in a risk-free society. every day all the millions of apartment of defense employees come to work to help this country contribute to the safety of this country. there is always some risk, but that is not good enough answer. they deserve the security of a good environment. we will find those gaps and we will fix them. to go beyond that in the specific areas of your question, i believe that to the review. i think that the intensity of the security

clearance has told me that they have done certain things the way that they do. but we need answers. >> i understand what the secretary said. changed afterat those earlier incidents, earlier indications are that they a less terrible outcome, where alert notices and ,ther agencies of government training for employees and law enforcement on active shooter scenarios -- some of the things we did as a result of those earlier incidents we believe that we reap the benefit that we intended.

of this is onese that we clearly have to take another look at and the secretary has directed us to do so. >> do you believe that security procedures investigations are not rigorous enough or that lower-level security i and a 10 year time frame might be too long? again, a question for you, general, on syria. you have expressed concerns before about the difficulties in securing those chemical weapons of sites in syria. if serious should agree to open up the sites to not only inspection but seizure by the end of this week or at any time, just how difficult would that be? is it even possible to secure those weapons during the civil war? on your question regarding

time frames on security clearances, the specifics and components of clearances, the timeframe and the kind, accessing the clearances for different individuals, obviously the longer the clearances go , there is some jeopardy the that. a look atng to take every one of those components. syria, my current role in the military is to provide some planning assistance to the organization for the prevention of chemical weapons. as well as to maintain the , should threat by force the diplomatic track fail. comments about the security of the stockpile, that is to say

it is a very challenging environment. indicators at this point are that the regime does have control against stockpile and so long as they agree to the framework which causes them to be responsible for the security, movement, and protection of the investigators or inspectors, i think that to answer your question it is feasible. but we have got to make sure we keep our eye on all those things. >> syria, with the help of otherational assistance, foreign militaries -- would that involve the u.s., by the way? iraqis been trying for decades, in the process, for decades to read the u.s. and russia as well of theirs. how can this be done in such a short timeframe in the middle of a civil war?

>> it calls for controlled combination,some it is feasible, but those details would have to be worked out. dempsey, do you think that today mr. assad is stronger where you assess chuck hagel? could you talk about what you're feeling of this -- how does -- are you comfortable with the path that the united states is on? need to keep a military pressure? >> you know, i have not spent too much time trying to understand assad's personal feeling about the recent turn of

events. i have said it previously and i will say it again, these kinds of politics at the and flow. we know from open source reporting that the opposition is concerned about the focus on chemicals that will detract from the willingness of the united dates partners. i will tell you, in terms of direct threats to u.s. interests thatave said previously the elimination of the assad regime's chemical capabilities are right at the top of our national interests. they haves process achieved their stated purpose and will be in a better position. >> i think -- first, it is clear. there is a credible threat of u.s. force.

it led to the diplomatic process of where we are. yes, we should keep that military option exactly where it is. we need to make sure that our assets and posture remain the same. at the same time you asked if i was comfortable with the process now, yes. that was always connected to the present diplomatic solution. it is wise to let that process play out. to goer, the resolution to congress was about chemical weapons. the track we are on, the diplomatic process, is a responsible and wise approach, a

credible force of threat that got us to where we are and we continue to have that credible option available. you, even though these reviews are going on about security procedures, could he have been stopped? alexis called and said that he was hearing voices. how concerned are you that the navy did not act on it? if i could ask you a question on egypt, you have several foundations i and which there have been conversations and talk about flyers for u.s. military equipment. talking about the delivery of the next batch of >> no finalopters.

decision has been made. on the question regarding the rhode island incident, we are reviewing all of that and i am aware. we will obviously get those kinds of specifics. they will be a part of the mix. what should have been done that was not done. getting more done. how could we have helped those found? that will all be part of that. >> could be maybe explain to you it was planted by the secret security clearance? despite a police record. why was he allowed to keep that? despite a growing number of reasons. >> the quick answer is no.

we will continue to see more of it. -- have asked some basin basic, relevant questions. they are going back to the history of it all. >> is the pentagon going to take charge of arming the syrian could you both give us an idea of the factors involved? >> the president has said that he is looking at all options. at present the pentagon is not directly involved in weapons activities. the president continues to look at those options. >> would you advise that?

>> as i have said, previously, we have any number of options under development that could expand support to the moderate opposition, but no decision has been taken. has now lostment people in three major gun violence incidents. aurora, fort hood, and this. you have to have a fuse, but is that good enough at this wing why not get involved with , get involved in the public debate in this country? we have not heard either of you say you are supporting the on gunnt's position

violence and registration. , can we hear your views on gun violence in this country? now that you have lost so many people, what do you think needs to be done? with gun violence being an issue. it is tragic. every american who has witnessed , such is our years sense of it this morning, our thoughts and prayers are with everyone who was a victim. gun violence is a violation of the law. it is not a matter of trying to defend it or achieve it is to

our opposition here. my role as the secretary of inense, i am not involved those issues. >> it is pretty difficult to separate those, so i try not to do that. role to become involved in domestic political issues. saying, noboth disrespect, you have lost people , but you are genuinely going to stay out of the public debate on this question? >> i would say that my role is not one of policymaker.

i answered questions about security and the aspects of it. engage in military policy, that is not my role. the president was very critical of the policy in syria last night. the military having taken over a couple of bases, launching a couple of missiles over a couple the secretary was also equally critical. general dempsey, did budget cuts have to do anything with the attack on monday? in order to de-stigmatize ptsd?

do you think that mental health questions should be returned to havingurity reviews, tried to de-stigmatize these issues on the one hand? >> i have the greatest respect for secretaries. obviously, they have every right to their opinion. leave yougoing to this now and take you live to the memorial service getting underway near capitol hill for the shooting victims of last week's navy yard shooting. ♪ grace -- >> ♪

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>> please be seated. let us pray. almighty god, whose waves are in the sea, whose powers are in the great waters, whose command is over all, whose love never fails, thank you for these extraordinary men and women that died as a result of the tragedy at the washington navy yard. they died in service to their country. may their spirits return in ace to you and with you have everlasting life. in your holy words, you warned us that there would be moments when we would not understand how

come good people seem to die before their time. but you promise that when they die, no calamity can hurt them. that they would find peace as they live forever with you. love for that your them and as for each of us would never die. and that not even death itself can take from us that which is eternal. comfort their families, as the nation pauses, pauses to honor the ones they dearly love, pauses to remember sacred stories of how they cherish life, faith, family, friendship, reedom, and the joy of life. we pause this day to proclaim to the world that though our colleagues may now rest from

their labors, their good examples and godly deeds will live on through each of us and through all those they were blessed to touch. we join with the bereaved families as they pray for those who are recovering, both physically and emotionally. we are forever grateful to all who responded and for the outpouring of love and support. .ow, lord, god, speak to us give us hope that is beyond our grief, and grant us your great strength and the gift of your surpasses all understanding. n your holy name, we pray. men.

>> before i start, on behalf of everyone who works in the navy yard, thank you to all in the d.c. area, especially those first responders, for everything you have done for us during this tragedy. it has been an honor for all of us to have served with the 12 great americans we mourn here today. they loved their country, they loved their navy, they loved the fleet, the fleet they helped

build and sustain. most of them dedicated their entire adult lives to building and sustaining our navy's ships. as i mourned with the families, i said i would correct what was said. e note was no civilians were no service people were killed, just civilians and contractors. that is flat wrong. these patriots designed and built our ships. they sustained and set the standards for our ships. they connected us to each other and to the fleet and they protected and sustained our head quarters. these people of our navy team,

our navy family were killed in the line of duty. they died in the service to our nation, the service to our navy. in service they were jft as -- just as committed to as any of us in uniform. for that service we honor them. for that service, we will never forget them. i salute these american heros.

>> good evening. last monday's horrific shootings at the navy yard were a tragedy for the nation, for the navy yard, but most importantly, for the loved ones of those lost and for those who suffered injuries. it also was a tragedy here in he district of columbia. residents of our cities lost friends, neighbors, mothers, fathers, colleagues and fellow church members. and our brave first responders joined their federal counterparts in doing their duty fearlessly and unselfishly. among those injured on monday is one of our own metropolitan

police officers. officer scott williams was one of the first to respond, and he was shot in both legs. his bravery is symbolic of countless other personnel from our metropolitan police department, our fire and emergency medical services, and our federal and local public safety agencies to answer the call to duty without hesitation. we are reviewing their response to learn as many lessons as we can in this event. but there is one lesson that is already abundantly clear. our country is drowning in a sea of guns. one of monday's victims was a district resident whose family already had been tragically

touched by gun violence. arthur daniels was 51 years old. that day, the simple act of going to work, going work in the orning, cost him his life. sadly it was a price his family had paid once before. me howow, pricilla, told their 14-year-old son was murdered just four years ago, shot in the back while running from an assailant. senseless gun violence like this is an all too everyday fact of life here in the district and in our nation's other big cities. but it is a fact of life which we must stop accepting. the navy yard, sandy hook, aurora, virginia it can,

columbine, the streets of our cities. why is it that every time we seem to let ourselves become enured to the horrific violence that these places represent? why is it that these tragic consequences and these tragic occurrences never seem to move us any closer to ensuring that guns don't get into the hands of criminals or mentally unstable people? i don't know the answer. this time is, that it happened within the view of our capitol dome. i, for one, will not be silent about the fact that the time has come for action. thank you.

>> ladies and gentlemen, as admiral hillard has indicated, our navy lost 12 teammates during monday's attack. these were members of our navy family. these are our shipmates. they are mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, going to work to provide for their families and serve their nation. you know, the nature of our navy family is that we serve together and we depend on each other in times of need. we celebrate each other's successes and our triumphs, and we grieve together in times of sorrow. now these shipmates dedicated their careers to building and maintaining the finest navy in the world. they worked alongside one another for a purpose greater

than themselves. simply put, they are the best naval engineering team in the world, a team that designs, repairs, maintains our ships and submarines. they plan and manage budgets, and they research, design, and build our future. this team is the genesis of the united states seapower. it all starts here. but above all else, they are part of the navy. navy strength has been and will ontinue to be the resilience and endurens -- endurance of our people during times of crisis. whether an attack on pearl harbor or more recently the bombing of the united states ship cole, our navy pulls together with resolve when tragedy strikes. members of our navy family

demonstrated true courage at the navy yard last week. it was parent in the actions of, for example, a navy civilian shipmate who happened to be a former hospital corpsman, as she carried one of her fallen co-workers and performed c.p.r. in an attempt to save his life. or the individual that ensured the safe evacuation of a blind co-worker. these are examples of what defines our navy shipyard. it is ship mates taking care of shipmates. we will remember what happened on monday, and we will grow stronger as an institution maintaining our commitment to build the world's strongest navy. to the families here and to the navy yard shipmates, we mourn with you today. we will stand with you going forward in the difficult times ahead. we will remember your loved ones, and we will be with you.

god bless you, our navy, and the united states of america. thank you. >> as a military organization, we have experienced all too often the searing pain of combat losses and honored the main who, in lincoln's words, have acrificed their lives on the altar of freedom. today we honor 12 patriots who made the same sacrifice in the service of their nation, this time here at home. we rightly set aside special days and solemn rituals to

recognize, honor, and ref veer the men and women in uniform who have paid the final price in the defense of our freedoms. these nine men and three women deserve no less. their work, and that of thousands of their civilian colleagues around this city and country is critical to our nation's security. without the civilians at naval sea systems command, we literally would not have a fleet to put to sea, and we could not operate without the navy's apacity and command. l we are a critical part of the navy marine corps team and the navy marine corps family. and we are a family. uniform and civilian, we work together, serve together, and overcome together. as a family, we grieve together. together we will assure that they, like those who have gone

before them, will be remembered and honored as heros. because that's what they are. heros. ordinary people facing extraordinary circumstances. an ordinary monday became a day of extraordinary horror, but also extraordinary heroism as law enforcement officers and other first responders ran into danger to aid and protect others friends, and s, strangers assisted each other in danger even at the risk of their own lives. we moslem more aal -- we memorialize those we lost. the courage we witnessed on monday did not end with that awful day. on tuesday people returned to their work, and by thursday much of the navy yard reopened.

thousands whose lives had been in real peril three days before would not let fear keep them away. still, we know it will take time for those with wounds, physical or invisible, to heal. the shock and anger of what occurred on monday will take us time to deal with. this act of evil defies comprehension, defies understanding. 12 wives, husbands, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, children, workmates, colleagues taken from us suddenly, violently, cruelly. but what can never be taken is the love and our memories. and as we remember these individuals we cherished, it should not be as victims.

their lives should not be defined by the terrible, inexplicable way they were ended, but rather how they lived and the rich legacies each of them left. and these are unique individuals . as i've spoken to their families and friends and common threads emerge, love of family and country and the value and pride placed on working for america and the values that others place on their work and on their lives . today, one by one, we will hear their names and remember them and mourn. they join so many other navy and arine corps heroes whose lives

shine forever bright. we remember semper fortis, semper fidelis. we remain forever faithful, forever courageous. >> mr. president, mrs. obama, on behalf of the more than three million men and women at the department of defense serving across the nation and all over the world, i want to express our deepest sympathy to the families here today. know that our thoughts and our prayers are with all of you. today we come together at this historic post to begin a long road of healing and recovery.

it is a path we walk together. we walk with the families, all who loved the fallen, to help ease the pain, hoping that grief and sadness will one day end and cherished memories of those we loved so much will take their place. we walk with those injured and scarred by this senseless act of violence to help them regain their strength, hoping the horrors of lost monday will soon recede. and together we will remember. we will remember the first responders. we will remember all. the first responders who ran toward the sounds of gunfire, including officers -- officer scott williams, injured in the line of duty. we will remember the valor of the navy yard personnel, all the people in the building 197, and

we will remember that in the face of tragedy, the united states navy is, once again, responding with resolve as we remember the fallen, we also te the timeliness resilience of the institution that the victims were part of, that they so proudly supported and the nation they so humbly serve. god bless the families and friends of those who we remember today. and god bless our country.

>> secretary hagel, secretary vis, admirals greenert and hilliares, and mayor gray. leaders from across this city and armed forces, to all the outstanding first responders, nd most of all, the families whose hearts have been broken, we cannot begin to comprehend your loss. we know that no words we offer today are equal to the magnitude , for the deaths of that loss. but we come together as a grateful nation to honor your loved ones, to grieve with you and to offer as best we can some

solace and some comfort. now on the night that we lost martin luther king, jr., to a gunman's bullet, robert kennedy stood before a stunned and angry owd in indianapolis and he broke the terrible news. in the anguish of that moment, he turned to the words an escors. reek poet, "even in our sleep pain, which we cannot forget falls drop by rop upon the heart auntil in our own despair, against our through the sdom awful grace of god."

"pain which cannot forget, drop by drop upon the heart." the tragedy and the pain that brings us here today is extraordinary. it is unique. the lives that were taken from us were unique. the memories their loved ones carried are unique, and they will carry them and endure long .fter the news cameras are gone but part of what wears on as well is the sense that this has happened before. part of what troubles us so deeply as we gather here today is how this senseless violence that took place here in the navy

yard echos other recent tragedies. as president i have now grieved when five different communities were ripped apart by mass violence -- fort hood, tucson, aurora, sandy hook, and now the washington navy yard. and these mass shootings occur against the backdrop of daily tragedies as an epidemic of gun violence tears apart families across america from the streets of chicago to neighborhoods not far from here. and so once again we remember our fellow americans who were just going about their day, doing their jobs, doing what they loved. in this case, the unheralded work that keeps our country strong and our navy the finest

fleet in the world, these patriots doing their work that they were so proud of and who have now been taken away from us by unspeakable violence. once more we come together to mourn the lives of beauty, the comfort, and the wonderful families who cherished them. once more we pay tribute to all who rush toward the danger, who risked their lives so others might live and who are in our prayers today, including officer scott williams. once more our hearts are broken. once more we ask, why? once more we seek strength and isdom through god's grace. you and your families, this navy

family, are still in the early hour of your grief. and i'm here today to say that there is nothing routine about this tragedy. there is nothing routine about your loss. your loved ones will not be forgotten. they will endure in the hearts of the american people and in the hearts of the navy that they help to keep strong, and in the hearts of their co-workers and their friends and their neighbors. i want them to know how she lived, jessica gaarde, said of her mother kathy. she is not a number or some statistic. one of these 12 fellow americans are statistics. today i want every american to see how these men and women lived. you may have never met them, but you know them.

they are your neighbors, like arthur daniels out there on the weekend policy irving his white crown victoria. proctor who, if you sked, would fix your car, too. sylvia frasier was the friendly face at the store who took a second job at walmart because she loved working with people. she was the die hard fan you saw at the game. kathy gaarde loved her team. they were the volunteers who made your community better. frank kohler giving dictionaries to every third grader in the county. michael arnold leading the

gospel at church. a man who left everything he raised his and family here and dedicated himself to the united states navy, vishnu pandit. they were proud americans, like gerald reed who wore the uniform 25 years, and michael arnold who became one of the navy's leading architects of whom a colleague said, "nobody knew those ships like him." they were dedicated fathers, like mike, coaching his daughter's softball teams, joining facebook just to keep up with his girls. one of whom said he was always he cool dad. they were loving mothers, like mary francis knight, devoted to her daughters and who had just recently watched with joy as their older daughter got married

. they were doting grandparents, like john johnson, always smiling. giving bear hugs to 10 grandchildren and who would have welcomed his 11th grandchild this fall. these are not statistics. they are the lives that have been taken from us. this is how far a single act of violence can ripple. a husband has lost his wife. wives have lost their husbands. sons and daughters have lost their moms and their dads. little children have lost their grandparents. hundreds in our communities have lost a neighbor and thousands here have lost a friend. as has been mentioned for one family, the daniels family, old wounds are ripped open again.

y cilia -- pricilla lost arthur, her husband, and only a few years ago, another shooting took the life of their son, just 14 years old. i can't believe this is appening again, pricilla said. these families have endured a shattering tragedy. if ought to be a shock to all of s as a nation and as a people. it ought to upset us. it ought to lead to some sort of transformation. that's what happened in other countries when they experienced similar tragedies. in the united kingdom, in australia, when just a single mass shooting occurred in those countries they understood there was nothing ordinary about this kind of carnage.

they endured great heartbreak, but they also mobilized and they changed. and mass shootings became a reat rarity. yet here in the united states after the round-the-clock coverage on cable news, after the heartbreaking interviews with families, after all the speeches and all the punditry and all the commentary, nothing happens. alongside the anguish of these theican families, alongside accumulated outrage that all of us feel, sometimes i fear there is a creeping resignation that these tragedies are just somehow the way it is, that this is somehow the new normal.

we can't accept this. as americans bound in grief and love, we must insist here today, there is nothing normal about innocent men and women being gunned down where they work. there is nothing normal about our children being gunned down in their classrooms. there is nothing normal about children dying in our streets from stray bullets. no other advanced nation endures this kind of violence. none. ere in america the murder rate is three times what it is in other developed nations. the murder rate with guns is 10 times what it is in other developed nations. and there is nothing inevitable about it. it comes in fact because of decisions we make or fail to

make, and it falls upon us to make a difference. sometimes it takes an unexpected voice to break through, to help remind us what we know to be true. we heard one of those voices wolowsky'sdr. janice team treated the wounded. in the mft of one of the briefings, she spoke with honesty as someone who sees often much violence. "we are a great country," she said, "but there is something wrong. all these shootings, all these victims. this is not america." "it is a challenge to all of us," she said," and we have to work together to get rid of this." and that's the wisdom we should

be taking away from this tragedy and so many others. not accepting these shootings as inevitable, but asking, what can we do to prevent them from happening again and again and again. i've said before, we cannot stop every act of senseless violence. we cannot know every evil that lurkeds -- lurks in troubled minds. but if we can prevent even one tragedy like this, save even one life, spare other families what these families are going through, surely we've got an obligation to try. it's true that each of the tragedies i've mentioned is different, and in this case it is clear we need to do a better job of securing our military facilities, deciding who gets access to them. as commander-in-chief i've

ordered a review of procedures up and down the chain. i know secretary hagel is moving aggressively on that. as a society we clearly have to do a better job of ensuring those that need mental health care actually get it. and that in those efforts we don't stigmatize those that need help. those things are clear, and we ave to move to address them. but we americans are not an inherently more violent people than folks in other countries. we're not inherently more prone to mental health problems. the main difference that sets our nation apart, what makes us so susceptible to so many mass shootings is that we don't do enough, we don't take the basic common sense actions to keep guns out of the hands of

criminals and dangerous people. what's different in america is that it is easy to get your hands on a gun. and a lot of us know this. but the politics are difficult, as we saw again this spring. and that's sometimes where the resignation comes from, the sense that our politics are frozen and that nothing will change. well, i cannot accept that. i do not accept that we cannot find a common sense way to preserve our traditions, including our basic second amendment freedoms and the rights of law-abiding gun owners while at the same time reducing the gun violence that unleashes so much mayhem on a regular basis. and it may not happen tomorrow, and it may not happen next week. it may not happen next month. but it will happen. because it's the change that we need. and it is a change overwhelmingly supported by the majority of americans.

by now, though, it should be clear that the change we need will not come from washington, even when tragedy strikes washington. change will come the only way it ever has come, and that's from the american people. so the question now is not whether as americans we care in moments of tragedy. clearly we care. our hearts are broken again. and we care so deeply about these families. but the question is, do we care enough? do we care enough to keep standing up for the country that we know is possible, even if it is hard and even if it is politically uncomfortable? do we care enough to sustain the passion and the pressure to make our communities safer and our

consumer -- country safer? do we care enough to do everything we can to spare other families the pain that is felt ere today? our tears are not enough. our words and our prayers are not enough. if we really want to honor these 12 men and women, if we really want to be a country where we can go to work and go to school and walk our streets free from enseless violence without so many lives being stolen by a bullet from a gun, then we're going to have to change. we're going to have to change. on monday morning these 12 men and women woke up like they did today. they left home and they headed off to work.

gerald reed's wife, said, be home for dinner. and john johnson said what he always said. "good-bye, beautiful. i love you so much." even in our sleep pain which we cannot forget falls drop-by-drop upon the heart until in our own despair against will comes some wisdom through the awful grace of god. what robert kennedy understood, what dr. king understood, what all our great leaders have always understood, is that wisdom does not come from damage did i alone or from some sense of resignation in the falibility of man, wisdom comes through the recognition that tragedies such e, and are not inevitabl

that we have the ability to act and to change to spare others the pain that drops on our hearts. so in our grief, let us seek that grace. that wisdom. and in doing so, let us truly honor these 12 american patriots. may god hold close the souls taken from us and grant them eternal peace. may he comfort and watch over these families. and may god grant us the strength and wisdom to keep safe ur united states of america.

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12 dear friends rest in peace. >> a reading from the letter to the romans. it is god who acquits us. who will condemn? it is christ jesus who died yes who was raised and is at the right hand of god, who indeed interest seeds for us. -- intercedes for us. what will separate us from the love of christ? will anger, distress, persecution, famine? nakedness, peril, or the sword? no. in all these things we conquer overwhelmingly through him who has loved us.

for i am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor rulers nor things present nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of god in christ jesus our lord. the word of the lord. >> would all of you join with me in praying and reading together from the ancient prayer book we know as the salms. -- psalms.

this reading is from the 23rd psalm. will you read together with me. the lord is my shepard. i shall not want. he maketh me to lie down in green pass tours. he leadeth me beside the still waters. he restoreth my soul. he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. yea though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death, i art ear no evil for thou with me, my rod and my stag staff. thou prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. thou anoint my head with oil. my cup runneth over. surely, goodness and mercy shall follow me all the dafse days of my life. and i shall dwell in the house of the lord forever.

let us pray. almighty and eternal god, we have gathered today to honor our fallen colleagues who died while serving their nation. these whom we regard as civilian sailors, as shipmates, were beloved fathers and mothers, grandfathers and grandmothers, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, and they were our colleagues, our neighbors, our friends. as we remember them this day, we give thanks for what they have meant to us. for their love, for their courage, for their dedication to service, to our navy, to our nation. we mourn their deaths and we grieve and we miss them terribly. and even as we grieve, we are

also thankful for those who responded in the face of terrifying violence, for those it, trofe -- strove to end for those who gave medical assistance. for those who lent a helping hand or put an arm around a shoulder, we give thanks. gracious lord, you heal the broken hearted. you bind up their wounds. we commend to your care the families and the friends of those whom we have lost. the psalmist reminds us that we are not alone. whether we ascend to the heights or we descend to the depths or take the wings of the morning and dwell in the utter most parts of the sea, even there your hand shall lead us. if we walk through the valley of yourhadow of death itself,

right hand shall hold us. . we ask you, hold us now comfort each one of us with the great power of your love. and in our grief and our confusion, give us light to ide us into the assurance of your love. we pray this in your holy name. men. would you please rise as we recall the names of those whom we have lost, and remain standing for the navy hymn and for taps. after taps, please remain in place for the departure of president and mrs. obama and the amilies.

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