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nobel prize the cause they are out there finding cures for the diseases that affect the american people. year when they announced that cancer rates were reduced by 15% because of the work that had been done, instead of getting medals, they were told they were going to get pink sequester means 5% cuts. whether the on the cusp of a breakthrough or not. whether you are dealing with an areemic, or whether you dealing with epidemic of alzheimer's and autism. we should be funding this. but no. by $2l cut the nih billion and make sure people
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stand in line for the help that before being admitted to the nih hospital. this has consequences for lives, .he future of our economy if you want to save the budget, spending,ole medicaid 80% of the beneficiaries are children. 80% of the money goes to long- term care because of alzheimer's, because of parkinson's, and other neurological impediments. if you want to reduce the medicaid incentive, you fund nih . find those cures. help those people with a horrible diseases. help the families and our country. puffing.p huffing and
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>> thank you. there are only five days left in the fiscal year. republicans continue to march us right to the edge of another cliff. this week the senate will pass a clean and continuing resolution at least until november 15. it is time to come together and pass a budget for the next year. this is the only sensible solution. speaker boehner, house republicans, tea party members of the senate and others are playing high-stakes poker but other people's money. let me tell you what i mean. their threats are not going to affect them. their threats will affect a lot of innocent people across america. he heard senator mikulski go through the list. not to mention the thousands of
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federal employees across america uncertain as to whether they will be needed at work on tuesday morning or whether to show up. republicans have decided they will use them as pawns in this political debate. if that is not bad enough, they take the next step. that is to threaten the debt ceiling and the paying of bills by our federal government. if they stand by their position and don't give us a clean extension of the debt ceiling, the victims will include not just federal employees, but all employees across america. the economist that we have met with have made it clear that the business roundtables have made it clear. this is a catastrophic strategy by republicans. it will cost us jobs in america because businesses to throttle back instead of moving forward and hiring people and putting them back to work. the republicans are playing high-stakes poker with the lives of so many innocent people
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across america. it is time for this to come to an end. we will give them a clean c.r. let's get on with the business that is important to this country of creating jobs and working to help the middle class in america have a fighting chance. i want to make one last point related to the 21 hour not a filibuster, but speech on the floor by the junior senator from texas. during the course of the debate, he told us a lot. some of it was very interesting and personal about himself and his family and his father. the inspirations and his life. he went on at great length in doing so. he told us a lot of detail about his relationship with his family and a lot of personal things. i came to the floor and asked in a basic question. where do you get your health insurance? the only thing he would say is that he did not take the federal insurance plan. the plan that we all have.
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he has refused to tell the press where he gets his health insurance. this man stood there for 21 hours lecturing us about america's health insurance coverage and will not tell the public what his health insurance coverages. it is time to ask. how is he getting his health insurance? what is the employer contribution for his health insurance? is that not important to ask echo he raised the issue. ask? that not important to he raised the issue. how many times on the floor did he tell you about the amendment and health insurance for members of congress and their employees? how many times did he raise that issue? not once has he come clean to explain his health insurance. if he is one of the lucky people who is wealthy enough to buy the biggest plan in the world god bless them. i can tell you an awful lot of people depending on the president's affordable care act
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do not have that luxury today. senator cruise would deny them the opportunity to buy health insurance. ask where he gets health insurance. i think it is an important question and one he raised with his own debate. >> thank you, everyone. thank you to my colleagues for the great work on this. we're seeing crusades from the far right of the republican party. their goal is to hold the government and the american people hostage until we do lay, defund, or derail obamacare. what they are doing is nothing new. house, the republican and handingaved them the key is to let them run the show.
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this is the time clock before they shut down the government. that is a disgrace. willknow that their c.r. never pass this body and will never be signed by the president. -- wentinuing resolution are watching an attempt to force -- thatront of another same show. if you voices on the far right of the republican party have pledged they will do everything in their power to block the senate from passing a clean c.r. in this episode, there is a plot twist. for the first time since the hard right movement on obamacare , republican leadership in the senate, backed by the majority of their caucus began pushing back. leader mcconnell and senator koran made it clear that despite
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their objections to obamacare, they will allow the debate to move forward. despite the pressure from outside groups and members of their own party who are making this issue for real conservatives, these leaders have said, enough is enough. you do not see mitch mcconnell out there mounting a campaign to try to get that caucus to block the c.r. and cause a shutdown. put us in a shutdown mode over obamacare. they are not. it is because of their position, everyone voted to move forward. cruz was in the position of first thing against it and then for it. he knew that if he voted against be able to count one hand who would go with them. that is because many decided not s game. cruz'a
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my friends from kentucky and texas are both up for reelection this year. despite these pressures, they refuse to go along with the extreme position of the hard right and now the senate under harry reid leadership is on the top on avoiding that mistake. why is this important? goes back toe c.r. the house, it will be up to speaker boehner to decide if he wishes to cave in to shut down the government or stand aside and allow the government to open. lead offollow the senators mcconnell and corn and -- and cornyn? in to the wishes of the tea party?
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boehner is in a stronger position to resist the mcconnell . he does not have a primary. why doesn't he step up to the plate and do the right thing and allow a clean c.r. to go through? if they consent up to the hard right with riemer talent is nipping at their heels, speaker boehner ought to be able to do the same thing. is he vulnerable to a challenge? no more than senator mcconnell is. speaker boehner would be wise to take a page from the senate republicans leadership's book. he would be wise to stand up to the extreme members on the hard right of the caucus and say we have tried it your way and it has failed. he would be wise to take up a clean c.r. we will pass it and put it on the floor.
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, even over theit vocal objections of the extreme right you want to hold the government hostage. speaker boehner did the right country, party, his the congress, and he would be better off for it. will speaker banal step up to the -- speaker boehner step up to the plate? only time will tell. >> republican leadership has allowed the tea party to which our party to the brink of a crisis. now they need to step up and work with us so we do not go over the edge. notice more frustrated than i am that republicans have spent the last six months blocking us from starting a budget conference. i told everyone again and again the only way to avoid lurching into another crisis is to come to the table before we are
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staring down the clock. they knew that, but refused to come to the table. we are days away from a government shutdown. there's only one responsible path forward. republicans are focused on the internal battles and are fixated on pandering to that tea party. senate democrats are going to pass a clean, short term bill to prevent a government shutdown. it should not be difficult. we want to keep the government open at the current level will work continues with a long-term budget deal to responsibly replace sequestration and end the constant crises. thisparties have said year's spending levels are far from ideal. the senate budget request to sequestration with the equal mix of spending cuts and new revenue .aised by closing loopholes
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they would pay for programs with deeper cuts to families and jobs all to protect the wealthiest americans from paying a penny more. the resolution does not solve all of our problems. we have a lot of work to bridge that divide. absolute very minimum is that we should be able to reject our family and economy and prevent a government shutdown. the senate is going to pass our bill. we will send it back to the house. republicans need to put an end to the tea party tempered tantrum and pass our bill without any gimmicks or games and work with us to create jobs and tackle our deficit and debt responsibly. families across our country are angry and are disgusted.
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. they want us to work together. the last thing we want to see is another tea party crisis that drives us even further apart. the speaker doesn't understand this by now, i will spot offer him. the tea party has her interest in making a deal. they want a shutdown. they will push us to the next crisis. just one more boxed canyon. the reality is the only path forward is for democrats and republicans to come together and work together on a bipartisan deal, which is what we have been asking to do for six months. open andgovernment allow us to get to work.
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>> house republicans are doing a few things. there's a short term bill that would keep the government funded while this fight continues. is that something you could support? >> i do not know what they will do. we have made it clear that we want a clean c.r. that is what we will vote for. we will not play any games. when i gave my opening remarks to you -- right now, they do not know what they will do. they are throwing all this mud in hoping something will stick on the wall. >> have got about 15 items that anne to see included in increase of the debt ceiling. or any of those items things that you could expect or compromise on? >> no. >> have you had any
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conversations with speaker boehner? >> not a single one. >> there is an easy way out of the path. all five of us have said so. and thea clean c.r. debt ceiling. that is the path forward. there's no need for conversations. we have spoken loudly and clearly. we have the support of the resident of the united states. i hear a voice. >> are you willing to negotiate on the debt ceiling if turning off the sequester -- crexendo. -- are you willing to negotiate on the debt ceiling if turning off the sequester -- >> no. look at what it is doing. that is sequestration.
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$3.6 billion. it is the envy of the rest of the world. the genius that runs this, francis collins -- democrats in the recent past have voted to repeal a medical tax. i know that you are not against speculation, that might welcome back. what all democrats vote against it or repeal it? listen, i know you have been listening, but we want a clean c.r. and that is what we will get. they want to shut down the government. days, 11 hours, 22 minutes.
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they can play away all they want. i should not have said that. they said they would not support that on the c.r. we have said and senator durbin was closed yesterday laying out on the floor that if they want a deal with all of these issues, less do it without a gun to the head of the american -- let's do it without a gun to the head of the american people. let's do it with a separate piece of legislation. we're not going to play games with the american people. the message is getting through. came out today. 80% of the americans think what they are doing is foolishness steps in the five percent of the republicans believe that. the art talking about walking over a cliff. a big one. this is a time that calls for
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leadership of the house republicans. i am thankful that we have john mccain and others in the senate and republicans who can't convince the two leaders yn that thisd corn is a path of oblivion for us. we need someone -- thank you, everyone. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]
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>> senators spoke with reporters midday on thursday. a bill is expected to pass and be sent back to the house without a provision defunding the health care law. the house could take up the bill as early as noon on saturday. >> the spending and the health care debate continues on capitol hill. president obama talked about the health care law in a speech at a community college in suburban washington. this is an hour. [cheers and applause]
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>> how are we doing prince georges county community college? [cheers and applause] you all look great. excited to meet the president? [cheers and applause] so my. thank you for coming out to give the president such a warm reception. thank you to charlene for her good work here. thank you to a great county executive. let's give it up for him. thank you to steny hoyer and our entire delegation from the great state of maryland, barbara mikulski we are very well represented. ladies and gentlemen, my fellow marylanders, progress is a choice. choice.tion is a whether we give you and your children a country of more or a
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country of less, these are all choices. that is why we have answer the president's call to do more and not less, to educate come in a they, rebuild. resultschieving better and faster job creation and upward economic mobility. there's one other call that the president has made to us. , we spent about six percent of our nations product on health care. today it is 17%. those are dollars wasted that could be creating jobs and expanding opportunity. that is why in maryland, we have chosen to be an early implementer of the affordable care act. [cheers and applause] lieutenant governor anthony brown has led the charge. we're looking forward to implementation. when we implement the affordable
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care act, when we implement obamacare, that would give maryland a competitive advantage to create merge jobs and more opportunity. .hat is what this is all about our president understands that. our president understands that creating a way so that all citizens can get health care is not only the right thing to do for every individual, but the necessary thing to do for our economy. create jobs, strengthen the middle class. ladies and gentlemen, i introduced to you the president of the united states of america. [cheers and applause] ♪
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>> hello, maryland. hello, pgcc! [cheers and applause] good to be back in pg county. give it up for one of the hardest working and most effective governors and most effective governors in the country, governor martin o'malley. [applause] is great to be with all of you here today. >> i love you. >> i love you back. we have a few folks who work so hard on behalf of the people of maryland every single day. we have a senator here.
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steny hoyer is here. and congresswoman donna edwards is here. [applause] and all of you are here. sometimes you need to escape politics for a little bit, even if you are a mile or two outside the beltway. that a lot of you have seen some antics going on in congress right now. so, i wanted to take some time today to speak with you, the people who send us to serve about something that is critical to our families, our businesses,
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critical to our economy. that is the reform that we are making to our health care system. there has been a lot of things said, a lot of misinformation, a lot of confusion. more are few things fundamental to the economic security of the middle class and everyone who is trying to get into the middle class van health care -- than health care. for a long time, america was the only advanced economy in the world where health care was not a right, but a privilege. more, we got less. we left tens of millions of americans without the security of health insurance. by the time the financial crisis hit, most folks remains had more than doubled in about a decade.
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about one in 10 american to cut the health care through their employer lost that coverage. the health care system was not working. the rising costs of health care burdens businesses and became the biggest driver of our long- term deficit. more.as always been about everywhere i went as i ran for president back in 2007, 2000 and eight, everyplace i have gone as president, i would hear stories from folks just like you. coverage because of a pre- existing condition. cancer survivors the have to choose between their homes or their health care. small businesses who wanted to do the right thing by their
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employees, but father insurance premiums go up -- but sob insurance premiums go up so high they could not do it anymore. but saw insurance premiums go up so high they cannot do it anymore. i remember the fear michele and was only a fewha months old and she had meningitis. we do not know what was wrong that we were terrified. we never felt so scared and helpless and all of my life. but we are fortunate enough to have good health insurance. i remember looking at the emergency room and thinking, what about parents who were not that lucky? what about parent to get hit orh a bill at $20,000 $30,000 and they have no idea of how to pay for it? what about parents whose kids have chronic illnesses like asthma have to keep on going back to the emergency room because they do not have a
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regular job? who is going to stand up for them? in the wealthiest nation on earth, no one should go broke just because they get sick. [cheers and applause] in the united states of america, health care is not a privilege for the fortunate few, it is a right, and i knew that if we didn't do something about our unfair and inefficient health care system, it would keep driving up our deficit, it would keep burdening our businesses, it would keep hurting our families and it would keep holding back economic growth. that's why we took on a broken health care system. that's why with the help of folks like steny and ben and donna we got it through congress. that's why we've been
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implementing it. that's why we are going to see it through. the affordable care act is here. [applause] i don't have to tell you it was a challenge to get it done. a lot of special interests who liked the system just the way it was fought us tooth and nail. then, republicans thought it was good politics to fight it even though the plan we proposed drew on a lot of republican ideas. but despite all the obstacles, the affordable care act passed both houses of congress. i signed it into law. [applause] the supreme court ruled it
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constitutional. republicans in congress have now voted more than 40 times to undermine or repeal it. their candidate for president ran on a platform to repeal it. and at every step they have been unsuccessful. [applause] now, five days from now, five days from now on october 1, millions of americans who don't have health insurance, because they've been priced out of the market or because they were denied access because of pre- existing conditions, they will finally be able to buy quality,
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affordable health insurance. [applause] in five days. pre-existing conditions, whether it's back pain or allergies, were sticking you with sky-high premiums, won't prevent you from getting affordable insurance you need. that's going to happen in five days. now, of course, the closer we've gotten to this date, the more irresponsible folks who are opposed to this law have become. some of the same republicans who warned three years ago that this law would be armageddon -- that's what they said. armageddon. now they're threatening steps that actually would badly hurt our entire economy, not because
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of the affordable care act, but because of what they're threatening to do. some have threatened a government shutdown if they can't shut down this law. others have actually threatened an economic shutdown by refusing to pay america's bills if they can't delay the law. that's not going to happen as long as i'm president. [cheers and applause] the affordable care act is here to stay. and so today i want to speak plainly, clearly, honestly about what it means for you and for the people you care about. now, let's start with the facts that even before the affordable care act fully takes effect, about 85% of americans already have health insurance. either through their job or through medicare or through the individual market.
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so if you're one ever these folks, it's reasonable -- one of these folks, it's reasonable whether you might worry whether health care reform will create changes that will be a problem for you, especially when you are bombarded with all sorts of fear mongering. the first thing you need to know is this, if you already have health care, you don't have to do anything. in fact, for the past few years since i signed the affordable care act, a lot of you have been enjoying new benefits and protections you didn't have before, even if you didn't know they were coming from obamacare. [applause] let me just give you a few examples. because the affordable care act more than 100 million americans have gotten free preventive care like mammograms and contraceptive care with no co- pay.
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because of the affordable care act, three million young adults under age 26 have gained coverage by staying on their parents' plan. [applause] because of the affordable care act, millions of seniors on medicare have saved hundreds of dollars on their prescription medicine. because of the affordable care act, just this year 8.5 million families actually got an average of $100 back from their insurance company because the insurance company spent too much on things like overhead and not enough on actual medical care. because the affordable care act, insurance companies can no longer put lifetime limits on the care your family needs. or discriminate against children with pre-existing conditions. and starting on january 1, they won't be able to charge women
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more for their insurance just because they are women. [applause] that's a good thing. so, tens of millions of americans are already better off because of the benefit and protections provided by the affordable care act. like i said, they may not know why that rebate check came in the mail. they may not notice that they are not having a co-pay for some preventive care that they received. but they are getting those benefits. that's already happening. that's already in place today. it's been going on for several years. those are the benefits of obamacare that the law the republicans want to repeal. although it's interesting, when you ask republicans whether they would repeal the benefits i just mentioned, when you say to them do you think it's the right
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thing to do to let young people stay on their parents' plans? do you want to prevent seniors from getting more discounts on their prescription drugs? no, no. we like those. those things are ok. so they don't like obamacare in theory, but some of the component parts, those that poll well, they don't mind. but that's already in place. now, here's the second thing you need to know. if you're one of over 40 million americans who don't have health insurance, including hundreds of thousands of folks right here in maryland, starting on tuesday, five days from now, you'll finally have the same chance to buy quality affordable health care as everybody else. [applause] and i want to i want to break this down for you. i want you to know exactly how it works.
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the major reason why people don't have health insurance is, not that they don't have a job or they do have a job but their employer doesn't offer health insurance, or they are self- employed. if you ever tried to buy health insurance on your own, you know it is really, really expensive. it's even worse if you have a pre-existing condition. and up to half of all americans have a pre-existing condition. see, the reason it's really expensive if you buy it on your own is because you're not part of a big group. you're not part of a group plan. and what groups do is they spread risk between sick is and healthy people. between older and younger people. and groups because insurance companies want the business of groups, that's why they are customers, they'll negotiate a better deal with a group than they will with an individual.
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so if you're on your own, you're out there trying to negotiate with insurance companies, they are looking and they are saying, well, you know, you take it or leave it, i'm going to charge you a whole lot of money, and if you got a pre-existing condition, they'll say we don't even want to insure you because we think you might get sick later on and we don't want to pay, we just want to take in premiums. so if you're not part of a group, you're either uninsurable, or you need to spend a small fortune on insurance that oftentimes is not very good. that's what's happening right now. the affordable care act was designed to solve that problem. here's how we do it. starting on tuesday, every american can visit health care.gov to find out what's called the insurance market for your state, you're in maryland, i think it's called marylandhealthconnection.gov. [applause]
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but if you go to healthcare.gov, they'll tell you where to go, they'll link to your state. now, this is real simple. it's a website where you can compare and purchase affordable health insurance plans side by side, the same way you shop for a plane ticket on kayak, same way you shop for a tv on amazon. you just go on and you start looking and here are all the options. it's buying insurance on the private market, but because now you're part of a big group plan, right, everybody in maryland is all logging in and taking a look at the prices, you've got choices. now you have new competition because insurers want your business, and that means you will have cheaper prices. so you enter in some basic information about yourself, one
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level of coverage -- what level of coverage you're looking for. after that you'll be presented with a list of quality, affordable plans that are available in your area t. will say clearly -- area. it will say clearly what each plan covers what, each plan cost, the price will be right there, it will be fully transparent. before this law only a handful of states required insurance companies to offer you instant price quotes, but because of this law ensures all 50 states will have to offer you instant price quotes, and so if you ever tried to buy insurance on your own, i promise you this is a lot easier. it's like booking a hotel or a plane ticket. and here's another thing about these new plans. if you're one ever those folks who have a pre-existing condition, these plans have to offer you coverage. they can't use your medical
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history to charge you more than anybody else. if you couldn't afford coverage for your child because he had asthma, he's covered. if you couldn't afford coverage because you were told heartburn was a pre-existing condition, you're covered. if you're one of the 45 million americans with a mental illness, you are covered. if you're a young adult or entrepreneur striking out on your own, you're covered. if you're a young couple who previously had insurance that didn't include maternity benefits, now suddenly you need some maternity benefits, you're covered. if you lose your job, and your health care with it, you're covered. so call those things that were denying you coverage in the past that were the, quote, cruelties of a broken health care system, on january 1, when these plans
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take effect, no, no, hold on -- hold on, i know what i'm talking about. you sign up starting on tuesday. the plan will take effect on january 1, and when these plans take effect, all those things change forever. now, what about choice and cost? in states where the federal government helps run these marketplaces, the average american will have more than 50 different plans to choose from with different levels of coverage. and because insurance companies are competing against one another for your business, a lot of americans will pay significantly less for their insurance than they do now. premiums are going to be different in different parts of the country depending how much coverage you buy, but 95% of uninsured americans will see their premiums cost less than was expected. and many families, including
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more than 2/3 of all young adults who buy health care through these online market places, are also going to be eligible for tax credits that bring the costs down even further. so let's be specific. right here in maryland, average 25-year-old, have we got any 25- year-olds here? so we got a few. some of you raised your hand, i'm not sure. [laughter] here in maryland, average 25- year-old making $25,000 a year could end up getting covered for as little as $80 a month. $80 a month. here in maryland a family of four making $60,000 a year could get covered for as little as $164 a month. it's the same story across the country.
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in texas, average 27-year-old making $25,000 could get covered for as little as $83 a month. in florida a family of four making $50,000 could get covered for as little as $104 a month. keen in mind the government didn't set these prices. the insurance companies, they proposed these prices because they want to get in with these big groups with all these new customers. the insurance companies are saying, these marketplaces, this law, will work. they are putting money on the line because they think it will work. competition, choice, transparency, all these things are keeping costs down. knowing you can offer your family the security of health care, that's priceless. now you can do it for the cost
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of your cable bill. probably less than your cell phone bill. [applause] think about that. good health insurance for the price of your cell phone bill or less. and let's say you're a young woman, you just turned -- i'm interested in this because i got two daughters, right. let's say you just turned 26, let's say you can't stay on your parents' plan anymore, if you buy health care through the marketplace, your plan has to cover free checkups, flu shots, contraceptive care. so you might end up getting more health care each month than you're paying for the premiums. all told nearly six in 10 americans without health insurance today will be able to get covered for $100 or less. it would actually be eight in 10 if every governor were working
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as hard as governor o'malley to make the affordable care act work for their citizens. [applause] unfortunately we still got a few republican governors who are so opposed to the very idea of the law, or at least they are doing it for the politics, that they haven't lifted a finger to help cover more people. some of them have actually tried to harm the law before it takes effect. but a lot of republican governors are putting politics aside and doing the right thing. and they deserve congratulations for that. [applause] it wasn't easy for them. you got conservative governors in ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, and arizona. about eight republican governors in all, they decided to expand medicaid through the affordable care act to cover more people in their states. and millions of americans
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without insurance will get coverage through these programs. so, that's what the affordable care act is. that's what all the fuss is about. we are giving more benefit and protections for folks who already have health insurance and we create add new market, basically a big group plan, for folks without health insurance so that they get a better deal, and then we are providing tax credits to help folks afford it. you would think that would not be so controversial. you would think people would say, ok, let's go ahead, do this so everybody has health insurance coverage. the result is more choice, more competition, real health care security, and one question people ask, how is it possible to do all this and keep costs down? well, part of what we did was build into the law all sorts of measures to assure that the growth of health care costs would start slowing down, and it has. under the old system doctors and hospitals, they were rewarded
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not for the quality of care but for the quantity of care. they get paid for the number of procedures they did instead of whether they were working or not. now he there are penalties for hospitals with high readmission rates. and last year, surprisingly enough, for the first time ever, hospital readmission rates for medicare patients actually fell. right. that means fewer taxpayer dollars go to providers who don't serve their patients well. over the past five years, we have more than doubled the adoption of electronic health records for physicians. so that means they can track what's going on better and make fewer mistakes. new technology start-up companies are coming up with new inventions to monitor patient health, prevent infections. there's innovation going on across the country. as a consequence, today medicare
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costs per enrollee are rising at the slowest rate in years. employer-based health care costs are growing at about 1/3 the rate of a decade ago. all told, since i signed the affordable care act into law, we have seen the slowest growth in health care costs on record. [applause] so let's think about this. if you got health insurance you are getting better protections, better benefits. if you don't have health insurance you can be part after group plan. and health care costs overall are rising much more slowly than they did before we signed the law. so far so good. what's all the fuss about?
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what is it that these republicans are just so mad about? look, i want to be honest. there are parts of the bill that some folks don't like. to help pay for the program, the wealthiest americans, families who make more than $250,000 a year, will have to pay a little bit more. extremely costly health insurance plans will no longer qualify for unlimited tax breaks. and most people who can afford health insurance now have to take responsibility to buy health insurance or pay a penalty. all right. now, the reason we dat i when uninsured people who can afford to get health insurance don't, and then they get sick or get hit by a car, and they show up at the emergency room, who do you think pays for that?
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you do. in the form of higher premiums, because the hospitals, they got to get their money back somehow. so if they are treating somebody who doesn't have health insurance, they jack up premiums for everybody who does have health insurance. it's like a hidden tax of $1,000 per family every year who has health insurance. so we are thinking that's not fair. if you can afford to get health insurance, don't dump the cost on us. the law also requires employers with more than 50 employees to either provide health insurance for your workers or pay a penalty. now, some folks say that's not
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fair. but if you are an employer, you can afford to provide health insurance, you don't, your employees get sick, they go to the emergency room or they end up on medicaid because you're not doing what you're doing, you should be doing, why is it everybody else should bear those costs? there are some folks who disagree with me on this. they say that violates people's liberties, telling them they have to get health insurance. i disagree. so did congress when it passed this bill into law. it is unfair for folks to game the system and make the rest of us pay for it. it's unfair -- [applause] it's unfair for responsible employers who are doing the right thing giving their employees health insurance to get undercut by some operator that's not providing health insurance for their employees. that puts the employer who is doing the right thing at a disadvantage, right? so this idea you have responsibility, everybody, that's what massachusetts did when they passed their health care plan a few years ago, and by the way today in massachusetts almost everybody's covered and the system works pretty well.
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all right. let me just wrap up by saying this. like any law, like any big product launch, there are going to be some glitches as this thing unfolds. folks in different parts of the country will have different experiences, it will be smoother in places like maryland where governors are working to implement it rather than fight it, but somewhere around the country there's going to be a computer glitch and the website's not working quite the way it's supposed to work. something happens where there's some error made somewhere. that will happen. that happens whenever you roll out a new program. i guarantee the opponents of the law, they'll have their cameras ready to document anything that doesn't go completely right, and they'll extend it to the news folks and say look at this, the thing's not working.
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but most of the stories you'll hear about how obamacare just can't work, it's just not based on facts. every time they have predicted something not working, it's worked. [applause] they said that these rates would come in real high and everybody's premiums would be sky-high and it turns out lo and behold actually the prices came in lower than we expected, lower than i predicted. these how well cost efficient and choice -- competition and choice works. they said this would be a disaster in terms of jobs. there's no widespread evidence that the affordable care act is hurting jobs. one of john mccain's former economic advisors admitted just this week, and i'm quoting here, i was expecting to see it. i was looking for it. but it's not there. it's not there.
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so the reason it is reforming health care it's going to help the economy over the long term. not only will it help lower costs for business, not only will it help families, it will free up entrepreneurship in this country because if you got a great idea for your own business, but you have never tried it because your spouse had a pre-existing condition, you didn't want to lose your employer-based coverage, you've got the ability now to get your own coverage. that's security. that's freedom. so we are now only five days away from finishing the job. five days. [applause] starting on tuesday you can sign up. but you don't have to sign up on tuesday. you've got six months to enroll in these new plans.
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can you go to the website, you can check it out. you can see if what i'm saying is true. you can sign up next week. you can sign up next month. you can sign up two months from now, three months from now, but you can sign up, tell your friends, tell your classmates, tell your family members about the new health care choices. talk to folks at your church, in your classroom. you going to a football game? basketball game? talk to them. tell them what the law means. over the next few months state and local leaders from across the country are going to hold events to help get the word out. go out there and join them. secretary of health and human services is in texas right now working with folks on the ground to make sure this all works for texas families. all across the country people are getting ready.
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all kinds of people are working hand in hand because we are all in this together, that's what america does best, that's what this country is all about. but we need you to spread the word. you don't have to take my word for it. if you talk to somebody that said, i don't know, i watch fox news and they said it's horrible, and you -- and you can say, you know what, don't take my word for it. go on the website, see for yourself what the prices are, see for yourself what the choices are, then make up your own mind. that's all i'm asking. make up your own mind. i promise you, if you go on the website and it turns out you're going to save 100, $200, $300 a month on your insurance or buy insurance for the first time, even if you didn't vote for me, i'll bet you'll sign up for that health care plan. [applause]
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so you don't need to listen to the politician. you don't need to listen to me. check it out for yourself. make up your own mind whether this works for you. look, part of the reason i need your help to make this law work is because there are so many people out there working to make it fail. one of the biggest newspapers in the country recently published an editorial i thought was pretty good. they said, the republicans in congress are poisoning obamacare then trying to claim it's sick. that's what's been happening. they have tried to put up every conceivable roadblock. they cut funding for efforts to educate people about what's in the law. some of them said, if their constituents call them, we won't
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even try to explain to them what's in the law. they actually opened up an investigation into people who tried to help churches and charities understand how to help some of the teaor the law. parties biggest donors some of the wealthiest men in america are funding a cynical ad campaign trying to convince young people not to buy healthcare at all. think about it, these are billionaires several times over. you know they have got good health care. [laughter] spendingare actually money on television trying to convince young people that if you have the choice between getting affordable healthcare and going without health care you should choose not having any healthcare. do you think if you get sick or get stuckrt and you
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with a massive bill the same folks are going to help you out? are they going to pay for your healthcare? though howesting, over the last couple years the republican party has just spun itself up around this issue. and the fact is the republican'' biggest fear at this point is not that the affordable care act will fail, what they are worried about is it's going to succeed. think about it. if it was as bad as they said it was going to be, then they should go ahead and let it happen and everybody would hate it so much and everybody would vote to repeal it. that would be the end of it. so what is it they are so scared about?
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they have made -- a big political issue out of it, trying to scare everybody with lies about death panels and killing granny, right? that's armageddon. so if it actually works, they'll look pretty bad. if it actually works that will mean that everything they were saying really wasn't true and they were just playing politics. just the other day one republican in congress said, we need to shove this thing down before the marketplace is opened and people get to see that they'll be getting coverage and getting these subsidies because and i'm going to quote him here. he said, it's going to prove almost impossible to undo obamacare, right.
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so in other words we've got to shut this thing down before people find out that they like it. \[applause/] that's a strange argument. don't you think that's a strange argument? and the closer we get, the more desperate they get. i mean over the last few weeks the rhetoric has just been cranked up to a place i have never seen before. one congressman said that obamacare is the most dangerous piece of legislation ever passed. ever. in the history of america, this is the most dangerous piece of legislation. creating a marketplace so people can buy group insurance plans,
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the most dangerous ever. you have a state representative somewhere say that it's as destructive to personal and individual liberties as the fugitive slave act. think about that. affordable health care is worse than a law that let slave owners get their run away slaves back. i mean these are quotes. i'm not making this stuff up. and here's one more that i have heard, i like this one. we have to, and i'm quoting here, we have to repeal this failure before it literally kills women, kills children, kills senior citizens. now, i have to say that one was
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from six months ago. i just want to point out we still have women, we still have children, we still have senior citizens. [applause] all this would be funny if it wasn't so crazy. and a lot of it is just hot air, a lot is just politics. i understand that. but now the tea party republicans have taken it to a whole new level because they are threatening either to shut down the government or shut down the entire economy by refusing to let america pay its bills for the first time in history. unless i agree to gut a law that will help millions of people. think about this.
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shutting down the government just because you don't like a law that was passed and found constitutional, and because you don't like the idea of giving people new access to affordable health care, what kind of idea is that? think about how that would impact maryland. lots of people would be badly hurt by a government shutdown. a lot of people around here wake up and go to serve their country every single day in the federal government. civilians who work at military bases. analysts, scientists, janitors, people who process new veterans and survivor benefits claims. they would all have to stay home and not get paid. and we all know it would badly damage the economy. whatever effect obamacare might have on the economy, it's far less than even a few days of
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government shutdown. even if you believe -- even if you believe that obamacare was going to hurt the economy, it won't hurt the economy as bad as a government shutdown. and by the way the evidence is that it's not going to hurt the economy, obamacare is going to help the economy. and it's going to help families and help businesses. as for not letting america pay its bills, i have to say no congress before this one has ever, ever in history been irresponsible enough to threaten default. to threaten an economic shutdown, to suggest america not pay its bills just to try to
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blackmail a president into giving them some concessions on issues that have nothing to do with the budget. i mean this is the united states of america. we are not a deadbeat nation. we don't run out on our tabs. we don't not pay our notes. we are the world's bedrock economy, the world's currency of choice, the entire world looks to us to make sure that the world economy is stable. you don't mess with that. [applause] you don't mess with that. [applause] and that's why i will not
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negotiate on anything when it comes to the full faith and credit of the united states of america. [applause] we are not going to submit to this kind of total irresponsibility. congress needs to pay our bills on time. congress needs to pass a budget on time. congress needs to put an end to governing from crisis to crisis. our focus as a country should be on creating new jobs and growing our economy and helping young people learn and restoring security for hardworking middle class families. [applause] this is not about the fortunes of any one party. this is not about politics. this is about the future of our country. if republicans do not like the law, they can go through the regular channels and processes to try to change it.
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that's why we have elections. so they can go through the normal processes and procedures of a democracy, but you do not threaten the full faith and credit of the united states of america. meanwhile, we are going to keep implementing the law. it's the law. like i said, there are going to be some glitches along wait. -- along the way. every law has hiccups when it's first starting off. people forget by the way, medicare part d, passed by my predecessor, george bush, passed by a republican house of representatives, the prescription drug bill passed into law 10 years ago, was even more unpopular than the affordable care act before it took effect. everybody was saying what a disaster it was going to be. the difference was democrats worked with republicans to make it work even better.
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steny remembers this, even though democrats weren't happy that the law wasn't paid for and was going to add hundreds of billions of dollars to the deficit, and we weren't negotiating a better deal with the drug companies, everybody worked once it was the law to try to make it work, and today about 90% of seniors like their prescription drug coverage. so we may not get that same level of cooperation from republicans right now, but the good news is i believe eventually they'll come around. because medicare and social security face the same kind of criticisms before medicare came into law, one republican warned that one of these days you and i are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it once was like in america when men were free.
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that was ronald reagan. and eventually ronald reagan came around to medicare and thought it was pretty good and actually helped make it better. so that's what's going to happen with the affordable care act. and once it's working really well, i guarantee you they will not call it obamacare. [applause] here is a prediction for you. a few years from now when people are using this to get coverage, everybody's feeling pretty good about all the choices and competition that they've got, there are going to be a whole bunch of folks who say, yeah, i always thought this provision was excellent. i voted for that thing.
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you watch. if will not be called obamacare. [applause] but i'm always willing to work with anybody from either party. if you've got a serious idea for making the affordable care act better or making our broader health care system better, i'm happy to work with you. because that's what the majority of the american people want. they don't want posturing, they want governing. they don't want politics, they want us to work together to make the lives of ordinary americans a little bit better, a little bit more secure. so, americans, i'm asking for your help. i need your help.
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[applause] we may have some very well funded opponents, we may have some very talkative opponents, but you're going to be the best, most credible messengers to spread the word about this law and all the benefits that the american people stand to get and have earned. so tell your friends, tell your families, get covered, get on that website, answer the questions of folks who don't know what this is all about, point them to healthcare.gov. teach them how to use the website. make sure they sign up. let's help our fellow americans get covered, then let's keep on working to rebuild the middle class. let's go and focus on creating more good-paying jobs.
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let's build more ladders of opportunity for everybody willing to work hard. [applause] >> let's make sure the united states of america keeps being a place where you can make it if you try. thank you, everybody. god bless you. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013]
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this is a little bit earlier than we usually have them. i know members will be coming because it is a very important hearing. we usually meet at 2:30 p.m. because of the interest, we have moved it up to 2:00. the committee meets today in open session to discuss legislative changes to the foreign intelligence surveillance act. as well as to hear testimony and question witnesses on the unauthorized disclosure of classified information throughout the summer. the impact of those disclosures and to allow witnesses to address media reports about intelligence at invidious. -- activities. let me begin by welcoming our are under surveillance which witnesses. they are the director of there is no capability to
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national intelligence, james clapper, the director of the surveil. so those things would be very nsa, general keith alexander, and the deputy attorney general. damaging if leaked and it is a delicate balance to make sure that the sufficient amount of information given to the public to have informed debates not james:. just informed debates but informed debates and not reveal those kind of details. i don't envy those trying to make very quick judgments what can be released in the wake of these controversies. cole. we will have a second and i would like to make it a panel as well. i will introduce the witnesses of that panel then. let me welcome tim edgar of the more proactive process. watson institute for international studies at brown it will be more open, it will university. this committee has been be more transparent. conducting oversight over the previously classified we may lose certain things as a intelligence collection conducted under sections 215 for result of that. but far better to have that several years. pland in advance to know here we have held numerous hearings dating back to 2007 on fisa is the system for declassifying authorities. isa court opinions, maybe with we have debated these provisions and amendments internally for some cost to national security several years now. but taking away the initiative this committee, as well as the judiciary committee, have reviewed the legalities of these from future snodeance or other programs, have been briefed on leakers who may think that they their operation, and have been notified of problems with their are bolingbrook whistleblowers. implementation.
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-- that they are being this committee has whistleblowers. >> go ahead. previously informed all senators of additional classified information regarding these programs available for their review prior to senate review. it is my opinion that the surveillance and other programs >> i really don't have any questions. i just want to thank you jement. i think you added to the discussion. it's great to have extra heads. are lawful.he nsa all of us are always smarter than anyone of us. so thank you for your testimony. they are effective and they are >> thanks for having us. conducted under careful >> senator collins. oversight by the department of justice, it nsa, office of the director of national >> i too want to thank you for intelligence, and by the fisa your testimony. i want to probe with both of court and the congress. you the idea of having some i also believe collecting timely and actionable intelligence is critical to our nation's sort of advocate for privacy security. concerns or someone other than nsa surveillance programs have prevented dozens of terrorist the government arguing a
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attacks against united states different view before the fist. and numerous other countries around the world. if it would ring just this past weekend, we were reminded that the terrorist threat remains. we watched in horror as a small group of determined gunmen work to have the general mercilessly killed over 60 council of the privacy and innocent men and women and children at the westgate mall in nairobi. civil liberties board take on that role. the reason that i suggest that the death and direct this is a possibility, and i realize that board was slow to destruction we saw at the mall get up and running and the administration was slow to could have been at a mall in the united states. we know that al-shabaab, the appoint members to it. terrorist group that has claimed but if that board operates as credit for the attack has successfully recruited young man joe lieberman and i intended it -- men from the united states to to when we wrote the 2004 law, come to somalia to train in twill be -- it will be very knowledgeable about our counter their jihadist camps and the terrorism efforts and the group formally merged with al qaeda in february of 2012. privacy implications of those we know that al-shabaab has claimed that some of the efforts. so it seems to me that when
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there is a significant issue, attackers it sent to the mall in that the general council of nairobi were from the united states and other western that board could be tasked with countries. the intelligence community has not confirmed this information. performing the role of the al-shabaab has primarily focused its past attacks on targets ameekcuss or the advocate or inside of somalia, it has whatever you want to call the demonstrated a willingness and ability to conduct attacks outside of somalia, such as the individuals. the reason this approach seems 2010 bombing in uganda that killed 76 people. to be worth exploring further and i want to explore with both of you. if we just appoint someone from the outside, it's unlikely that it is no coincidence that one of the few specific cases to be they're going to have the declassified by the intelligence background and the information community to illustrate how it unless they have the kind of experience that both of you have. uses nsa call records involve but that universe is going to the prosecution of a man for providing material support to be pretty slim as far as having al-shabaab. up-to-date information on our according to the intelligence community, in october 2000 counter terrorism activities. so this is an idea that just 2007, nsa provided occurred to me so feel free to
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shoot it down if you wish or to present an alternative the fbi with information call records that are collected under approach. section 215 of the patriot act. >> we certainly wouldn't want this information established a to shoot it down. i think he made a comment earlier today that i think really bears on this, which is connection between a phone known that a lot of the trouble that to be used by an extremist overseas with ties to al qaeda happened both in 2009 and in east africa network and a san diego-based number. 2011 was a function of failed that tip from the nsa search of call records ultimately led to lawyer technical people and an fbi investigation that lawyer engineer communications. and that the chain of resulted in a february 2013 conviction for conspiring to information from engineering to nsa lawyers to justice provide material support to al- shabaab. department lawyers to the fisk this is just one of many is a game of telephone that examples of the need for this really requires lawyers with kind of intelligence collection. incredibly detailed technical understanding in order to get furthermore, i believe the leaks information that is accurate of classified programs and the into legal form. way those leaks have been and that's been a challenge portrayed in the media often
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inaccurately or without over time. and so there is something -- i actually really agree with you appropriate context has led to that there is something -- an unfortunate, but very real amount of public skepticism. there's a kind of head scratching puzzle. what happens then if you appoint an outside advocate who has perhaps a very high and, if i might say, distrust, security clearance but very little background in the unfortunately, of the technical side of this and say go argue against the got's case. ofelligence community and that's a very, very difficult the national security agency in challenge and the rampup speed particular. this exists throughout the american public and it exists associated with that i think internationally. since edward snowden's leaks will raise as a question about began in june, the intelligence committee has conducted several hearings on fisa and on the how effective that advocate is going to be particularly in the oversight regime in place to review these programs. context of a time sensitive application that is going to i have also initiated a review proceed on an exjent basis. of all intelligence programs so for all those reasons, i beyond fisa but have the think your idea is something that one should consider very seriously. forhat have the potential but with one caveat, which is i do worry that if arguing
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capturing information about american citizens and other against the gove before the people inside the united states. fisk is another government additionally, we have begun office. drafting bipartisan legislation to increase public transparency the -- one of the two added of programs, strengthen values that we're trying for here, one of them is a more congressional oversight, and adversarial presentation before the fisk itself but the second authorities to add is a public confidence that it has the benefit of a genuine adversarial presentation. and i do worry a little bit new protections for american that this would not be rider seat. we are considering provisions to do the following. perceived as fully independent, place limits on nsa phone metadata program, to change some of the preserve this program. advo vat, who has no regular this program is constitutional and legal and i invite people listening to review the legal tri capture relationship with analysis of the recent five the respect to the intelligence community. so i think you may have a little bit of a legitimacy loss fisa courtecent if you structure it that way. >> the reason i think it might be good to overcome that is the opinion written by judge egan, which is available on fisa court website. independence of that board is similar to the independence of
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an inspector general. and i think the public is very expressly prohibit collection of comfortable with the concept of the content of phone calls. an inspector general tends to trust ig reports and give them credibility. but i understand your point that it is still government. codify the requirements that analysts must have a recent >> it may well be that the suspicion that a phone number is associated with terrorism and in order to even query the benefits you get in expertise database. for doing it that way outweigh in addition, we are looking at the -- what may be a marginal reducing the length of time the compromise in perceived independence. records can be held and query. it's just a caution i flag for you. >> thank you. we will also add a requirement mr. edgar. that every time nsa determines >> i think that's a very that there is a reasonable suspicion that a phone number is interesting idea. associated with terrorism, not i would echo ben's point being as important as the actual -- that determination will be independent. there is an extraordinarily sent promptly to the court so that it can be reviewed. difficult balance here, though. you need expertise and we will also require additional continued understanding of how it works and you also need some independence. transparency by requiring annual my concern is really a practical one of who would that reports on the number of phone general council be? numbers determined to have met are they a detailee?
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that reasonable suspicion standard, the number of queries are they someone who has a long conducted each year, the number of times such queries result in national security law career ahead of them? fbi investigative leads each that might be difficult. even with the best structural independence actually the year, and the number of probable members of the privacy and cause warrant obtained because civil liberties oversight board might be better because they of intelligence gathered from these queries each year. are outsiders who do have this role over a long period of time and an ability to gain expertise. i go back to my point about the therefore the whole process, at special master. least in terms of the numbers i think that's even more crucial as i think about the compliance incidence. we as lawyers want to think involved in the phone records, would be made public. about guilt. for section 702, which those two incidents in 2009-11 authorizes the collection of electronic communications of were very serious ones that did not involve any real guilt on non-americans outside the anybody's part. but they were still country, we will place in statute a clear mandate that any query using a u.s. person's name systemically a big deal -- a or e-mail a dress can be done ig deal for the court, for the nsa, and the public. -- or e-mail address can be done having a special master, which only for articulable intelligence purposes. honored an
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a record explaining that foreign intelligence hurt this will be institution as an amicus, i provided to the fisa court and to the congress. think there is lots of ways to strengthen that institution. through our reviews, we have magistrates, to consider lower identified a gap in the government collection. level decisions are a the government learns that an possibility. authorized non-united states there are lots of ways to find person, enters and remains in the court could be made uses the united states, the nsa must cease collection on that target. the type of institutions that courts have always had into a court that's able to handle this new role as a sword, as an these are known as roaming incidents. overseer of vast complex intelligence programs, not just of course if collection is stopped, just as the individual saying yes or no to national security wiretaps, which is may be of the greatest concern. kind of the original 1978 fisa. here is an order, does it meet probable cause? you're a federal judge. so we trust you. we have drafted a provision in now we're talking about much law to provide a limited. whichen days under bigger attacks for the -- tasks for the courts to accomplish. >> i'm not going to get into a surveillance may continue while the government goes to fisa court to seek a probable cause debate at this time but i want warrant to continue the collection. to thank you for attending. if a court order is not issued, all collection after the time
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int to thank you for your -- i the target is known to have entered the u.s. must be want to thank you for your deleted. testimony. we are going to proceed and hopefully anything but sausage comes out of it. thank you very much. let me note to other provisions. one would require senate confirmation of the director of the nsa. it is a huge agency and an important agency and we believe it should require confirmation in the advise and consent process. secondly, although there has been substantial attention paid other intelligence collection programs outside of fisa function under the guidelines of executive order 12-333 which do not mandate the same protections as does fisa. i believe we need to ensure that protections governing intelligence collections outside of fisa are improved to
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adequately collect americans -- protect american communications in a similar way. we are mandating in this bill that attorney general guidelines for these programs are updated and then reviewed on an ongoing basis by the attorney general at least every five days. the intelligence committee has begun reviewing all of these intelligence programs and we will continue to do so for the rest of the fall term. i know that witnesses may have comments about these proposals and we welcome any additional suggestions you have for increasing transparency, making intelligence programs more effective, and adding to privacy protections and public confidence. i note the administration statement for the record. welcomes reconsideration of retention periods for phone also known as the
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number of hops. we are talking about that right now. i happen to support it. i also invite you to speak about the leaks and initiated by mr. snowden that are now playing out on a weekly or daily basis in newspapers around the world. as well as any other claims concerning various intelligence activities. it is up to you, gentlemen, of the intelligence community and the department of justice to lay out the case and set the record straight about how intelligence >> both houses are prepaurg to programs are operated under fisa and the care that is taken to abide by the law. move ahead particularly after september 30th. the senate will be in session this morning for about four hours of debate before a series of votes. it is clear to me that the the bill is expected to pass public has a misperception and and be sent back to the house without a provision defunding the health care law. that must the corrected. the house could pick up the bill as early as noon on we will hopefully make prudent saturday. before senators agree majority changes to increase privacy and transparency, but i believe the leader reid requested that members finish the bill on
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majority of this committee the thursday evening but republican senator mike lee of utah believes that these programs objected. this part of the debate is 40 minutes. are necessary for our nation's me call on our >> the majority leader. distinguished vice chairman >> thank you very much. >> as i've indicated for the our committee does not often have open hearings. entire week, each day that goes by, each hour that goes by, this topic is of such great each minute that goes by we are interest to the american people that much closer to a that this hearing is going to be very important. it is important they have a government shutdown. chance to hear directly from the intelligence community. i have been told that the house needs more time to work on this. they are saying that maybe what it is equally important that the intelligence committee -- that we need is an extension of the the intelligence community have cr. the opportunity to explain to the stock market, the financial the american people more fully in public how essential fisa is communities, the business in keeping this country safe. roundtable, american chamber of and how the privacy of all commerce, all americans, 80% of the american people including americans is being protected. we are here in large part because of the snowden links, 75% of republicans, thinks there should be no doubt that what's going on here -- not those leaks have caused and will continue to cause exceptionally grave damage to our national taking care of the finances of security. this country -- is absolutely wrong. there is no reason to stall
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ultimately they will cost lives. this. so i ask unanimous consent that at 6:30 p.m. today all post mr. snowden will be responsible for that. cloture time be yielded back there is no excuse for leaking classified information. with the exception of an hour. the first 40 minutes of that hour equally divided and the any leaker should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. last 20 minutes reserved for the two leaders with my having the snowden makes are no exception. he final 10 minutes and that he may be a hero to our enemies, but he is not a whistleblower. there were alternative avenues available to him to make his concerns known, especially avenues leading to congress. senator mcconnell speak before me if he so chooses. instead, by his own admissions post e senate vote to to the media, he violated his oath of secrecy and jeopardized the national security of this cloture. country. i believe he knew how serious a all time be yielded back breach of trust it was. including amendments be withdrawn that no other amendments be in order that the and yet he fully stole this majority leader be recognized, information and fled the country and leaked it to the world. i understand the investigation is ongoing and you will be limited as to what you can say, the motion toway is agreed to he senate proceed to vote, 197 i hope you will bring us up-to- date with respect to the efforts of the department of justice. without disclosing classified information, i think the 4, upon the decision of that
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amendment the joint resolution american people need to hear more about the damage of these be read a third time and leaks, including the inaccurate stories. proceed to vote on passage of the joint resolution as amended. finally all after the first the vital foreign partnerships vote be 10 minutes and there be that you depend on each and every day that of been impacted two minutes equally divided between the two votes. i would alert everyone if we got this agreement it means we -- that have been impacted by would vote up to four times around 7:30 this evening the these leaks. house would get the bill probably tonight or in the morning as soon as it can be rocessed cloture would be -- a as the chairman said we are working very closely together to vote, motion toway budget point develop that bill and we will get there, it is important to recognize that fisa is not broken. of order, an amendment on the amendment 1974 and passage as amended if amended that is my it is working exactly as congress understood. request. >> is there objection? congress has extended the sunset the senator from utah. >> reserving the right to for this section three times object. if we were to vote tomorrow, if we were to have these votes since september 11. tomorrow, that would represent
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the product of waiving two regular and substantial eparate 30-hour periods. oversight from all three branches of government, including this committee. that cloture on the bill. so the american people are paying attention to this. to date, there has been no the american people are intentional abuse of watching this. a lot o have expectd this might occur friday or saturday. so i ask the question. fisa authorities. would the majority leader be willing to modify the request slightly with the same that is not to say that mistakes provisions in place but with have not been made or there will not be future compliance issues the votes to occur during regardless of how congress tomorrow's session of the modifies these authorities. senate? the fact that mistakes have been found and addressed by the many >> i appreciate -- existing layers of oversight is >> does the majority leader so further evidence that the process is working as intended. modify? >> i appreciate my friend's request to modify my amendment -- my unanimous consent i think we are making very good progress on the bill that makes reasonable changes for more request. transparency. my response would be reserving you and i share the goal of the right to see if i would accept is this. maintaining the same level of operational effectiveness and flexibility for the intelligence everyone in america knows what community while recognizing the the issues are before this privacy concerns about this collection. body.
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the amendment, the middle class with that in mind, i have strong ski-reid amendment we're going objections to any effort to move to be required to vote on is control of section 215 to any entity other than nsa. pretty simple. it says there will be nothing dealing with obamacare, we the telecommunications provider change the date november 15th should not be given this added burden, especially because it from december 15th and we have would not enhance privacy. joiner d of the paint director clapper, the committee first. i've met with the republican leader staffs have gone over has been waiting for technical assistance on potential bill that, no problems with that. language, but it has received nothing in writing from the so this is an effort to stall. administration. defining a term or describing a i don't know why. it is absolutely unfortunate have a incorrectly can because i repeat every minute that goes by is a minute closer detrimental impact on collection. we need to get this right, but we cannot do so without your assistance. the committee is planning to act to a government shutdown. on this legislation next week. because when we finish this we it is now thursday afternoon. have to then have the american people focus on whether we're the final mark is not completed going to have a debt ceiling. but we are getting there and we whether we're going to again need to hear from the crash the economy as we did administration prior to this markup. last time that threat came. i look forward to hearing from both panels today. so unless it is maybe someone
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thinks that they can come with their great speaking ability >> gentlemen, would you please rise and repeat the oath? tomorrow change everything, everybody in this body knows how the votes are going to go. after me. i do solemnly swear that i will give this committee the truth, this is going back to the house the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help me god? of representatives and the thank you very much. house of representatives has said publicly and they've said privately they are going to send something back to us. now, i want to make sure that if they do that we have time to process it. stalling until tomorrow means they're not going to get it until sunday. we would try our utmost to get it to them tonight, friday, rather than sometime late director clapper, would you like to proceed? >> thank you so much for having saturday or even maybe -- if we us here today to talk about the way ahead. can get it to them sometime about the steps we are taking to saturday. they need time. and under our rules, is this make these programs more kind of a subterfuge to close transparent while protecting our the government? national security interest. because that's what's going to happen. we are not the house of representatives. we have rules here that takes a while for us to get places. i understand my friend from
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thanks for your staunch utah says that we have two leadership and stalwart support. 30-hours and we're moving it more quickly than the rules i am joined today by the deputy attorney general and director of require. nsa. we each have statements and i what the american people see will transition to general here in the senate is no alexander. senate, is everything it -- is a big big stall. never do you work now. and from thence to mr. cole. wait until tomorrow. this hearing is a key part of maybe i'll give this great the discussion our nation needs speech, i'll turn the world about legislation that provides the intelligence committee with around. this is senseless. the american people -- how many -- the intelligence community get the american with authorities to collect critical foreign intelligence and to protect privacy and civil people, 80% of them agree with liberties. all of us are very much aware that the recent unauthorized anything? they think this is bad for the disclosures have raised serious concerns about our intelligence country and it is. activities. so i do not accept the modification. and if there's an objection to we know the public wants to this, if there's an objection understand how its intelligence to my request i'll work it out community uses it special tools with the republican leader as to what time we're going to do this. >> is there objection? and authorities and to judge >> reserving the right to
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whether we can be trusted to use them appropriately. object. we believe we have been lawful >> the senator from utah. >> we have been willing to and that the rigorous oversight compromise. the offer that was made by my colleague the junior senator has been effective. from texas yesterday from the we welcome this opportunity to make our case to the public. floor represented a significant as we engage in this discussion, compromise, significantly i i think it is important that our believe it was the senator from citizens know the unauthorized nevada the majority leader who disclosure of details of these objected to a unanimous consent programs has been extremely request made yesterday by the damaging. senator from texas to proceed with having these votes tomorrow. -- asy vantage as tni, it still represents a significant compromise offer that consolid dates, collapses two separate 30-hour period as required by the rules. these disclosures are it is not an unreasonable threatening our ability to request. moreover, i'm not understanding conduct intelligence and to keep what it is about having a vote our country safe. there is no way to erase or make up for the damage we know has already been done and we tomorrow morning instead of anticipate even more as we continue our assessment and as more revelations are made. tonight that would make a before these unauthorized difference between being able disclosures, we were always conservative about discussing to get something to them the specifics of our collection tomorrow if we pushed it out programs. the more adversaries know about versus sunday. the ap, i want to yield to what we are doing, the more they avoid our surveillance. the disclosures have lowered the threshold for discussing these senator from tennessee but i do
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want to say this. matters in public. it is as obvious to me and it is obvious as obvious to me as to the degree that we can discuss them, we will. it is to a kindergarten this public discussion should be based on an accurate understanding of the student. they didn't want to vote intelligence community. who we are and what we do. yesterday. the big speech wes heard about how if you voted for cloture you would vote to extend and how we are overseen. obamacare they turned around and voted for it. in the last few months the this is a big big charade that , manner in which our activities have been characterized has often been incomplete, is not getting them where they need to go. they want to stop obamacare. inaccurate, or misleading. they want to do everything. i believe that most americans realize the intelligence they didn't even want to vote community exists to collect vital intelligence that helps on cloture yesterday. protect our nation from foreign threats. of course they wanted to skip that and go a couple of days so they can talk longer. people are tired of talking. we focus on uncovering the they want us to get something secret plans and intentions of done here. our adversaries. the government is near the time but we do not do is spy on that it will close. as i said here this morning, a woman who works for the united -- is spy unlawfully on states park service to an event americans or spy indiscriminately on the citizens i had in boulder city, nevada. of any country. we only spy for valid foreign she and everybody that work intelligence purposes with
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multiple layers of oversight to ensure we do not abuse our there are afraid they were authority. going to lose their jobs. last time they were laid off for 29 days and didn't get paid unfortunately, this reality has for it. >> i wonder if it would be sometimes been obscured in the current debate. appropriate if i were to ask this has led to a lowering of trust in the intelligence committee. the senator from utah a question if he would take the we do understand the concerns on the part of the public. question. i am a vietnam veteran and i remember investigations of the >> wousmed. >> this has been a wrath cler 1970s later disclosed, some intelligence programs back then fusing week, i know. were carried out for domestic i don't think ever in the political purposes without proper oversight. history of the senate have we d a 21-hour flisht -- fill buer and then the person carrying out the filibuster having lived through that, i can assure american people that the voted for the thing we were intelligence community today is not like that. having a filibuster on. we operate within a robust framework of rigorous oversight i was over at the house and talked to members of leadership involving all three branches of government. there. they would like to get the piece of legislation from the senate over there as quickly as another useful historical spit possible so they could respond. perspective -- useful historical now, i think all of us on this
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perspective, during the cold side would like to see some war, it made for an collection a changes to the cr, change that is we believe to be good collection -- an policy. and over on the house side we have a majority of republicans foreign colection a lot and i know that they would like to send back to us some changes that i think many of us would support. now, in talking earlier with the senator from from texas it easier to distinguish. is my understanding that the now communications are unified. a much lesser number of nefarious adversaries trying to reason you don't want to send do harm on the very same network the bill over to the house who using the same technologies. our challenge is to distinguish between these two groups of could possibly put in place some very good policies for us here is that you want the communicants. american people and the outside groups that you've been in if we had an alarm bell that contact with to be able to watch us tomorrow. went off, our jobs would be a lot easier. that capability does not exist in the world of technology so it sh i'm asking the today. over the last three months, i have declassified and publicly question. released a series of documents is it more important to the senator from texas and the senator from utah that the related to section 215 and section 702. people around the country watch this vote, or is it more we did that to facilitate and important to us that we have a form public debate about the good policy outcome? from our standpoint? importance intelligence
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and actually have a body that collection programs. has a majority of republicans in light of the unauthorized to be able to react and send disclosures, the public interest back something of good policy. this is confusing to me because in these documents far outweighs i know the leadership there the damage to public security. wishes to be able to respond as quickly as possible. but i'm understanding the reason we're waiting is that you all have sent out releases they reflect the intelligence and e-mails and you want everybody to be able to watch. communities commitment to it doesn't seem to me that's in uncovering, reporting, and correcting any compliance our nation's interest nor is it matters that occur. candidly in the interest of those who want to see good policy on the conservative side however, even in these documents come out of this. we have had to redirect certain i wonder if you might respond information. to that. we will continue to declassify >> the senator from texas. more documents. >> since the senator from that is what the american people want and what the president has asked us to do and i believe it tennessee has made reference to is the only way we can reassure me i ask unanimous consent that i engage in a colloquy. our citizens that the >> is there objection? intelligence community is using its tools appropriately. without objection. >> we need time -- if there's a the rules of oversight that reasonable time i am happy that
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there be another performance govern us and ensure that we do this afternoon. what the people want us to do, >> for how long do the senators protect our nation security and our people's liberties. wish to engage in a colloquy? >> i cannot imagine it would so i repeat, we do not spy on extend beyond 10 minutes. >> is there objection to the anyone except for valid foreign intelligence purposes. on occasion, as you have described, we have made mistakes, some quite request? significant. these are usually caused by >> no. technical problems or human >> without objection. error. >> i appreciate the senator from tennessee's comments supporting the majority leader. know the senator -- i whenever we found mistakes, we reported, addressed and corrected them. the national security agency is an honorable institution. the the senator from tennessee is learned so i know he must have made a misat the same time the men and women who do this when he moments ago suggested sensitive work are honorable that those of us who people. participated in the filibuster the other day somehow changed they are appalled by any wrongdoing. our position in voting for the too are citizens of this motion to proceed. the reason i know the senator , nation who care just as much about privacy as the rest of the from tennessee is mistaken is public. they should be commended for because during the course i their crucial and important work and protecting the people of explicitly stated, i support this country, which has been made all the more difficult by the motion to proceed. i stated that a week before the
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filibuster repeatedly. the torrent of un-authorized and i have always stated that the damaging disclosures. vote on the motion to proceed, we in the intelligence community stand ready to work in partnership with you to further the vote on cloture was going to be unanimous. protect our privacy and civil liberties. i offered a unanimous consent during that filibuster that we i think there are some vitiate the cloture and all principles we already agree on. we must always protect our agree to proceed because everyone in this chamber, i expect the vote to be ubemuss. everyone wants to proceed to targets andhods, this bill. now, the senator from tennessee being learned in senate procedure knows that there is a liaison relationships. we must do a better job in big difference between that helping the american people vote on wednesday, which i understand our job and why we do it. might note when the vote tally we must demonstrate our commitment to respecting the was down there for republicans civil liberties and privacy of i put my not -- not only did i every american. we have to remain mindful of negative impact of over vote yes early but i put my correcting the authorizations recommendation for every republican to vote yes because granted to the intelligence community. of course we should get on the bill to vote tomorrow on as americans, we face an cloture on the bill is a very unending array of threats to our different bill and i know the way of life. more than i have seen in my 50 senator from tennessee is quite aware of that. years in intelligence. the vote tomorrow is a vote to cut off debate on the bill. and so, as i said during the we need to sustain our ability
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to detect these threats. filibuster two days ago, as i discussiona balanced have said for weeks, it is the vote tomorrow cloture on the about security and civil liberties. we need to continue to protect bill that matters because both. anyone voting tomorrow in favor of cloture is voting in favor before i turn it over to general alexander, we have had staff of granting the majority leader the ability to fund obamacare discussions and i think we have and i know my friend from made arrangements for the tennessee understands that so i technical writing. am sure the statement suggesting the vote on the motion to proceed i know that was a statement in error. >> well, actually i appreciate so, general alexander. this opportunity. >> i am privileged today to what we have before us is a represent the work of the bill that defunds obamacare. dedicated professionals at the national security agency who employ the authorities provided it is a bill that the house has by congress, the courts, and the sent over. so you are right. executive branch to help defend tomorrow's vote is a vote to this nation. end debate in support of if we are to have a serious debate about how nsa conducts its business, we need to step exactly what the house of representatives has sent over. away from sensational headlines and focus on the facts. that is a confusing thing to a lot of folks. but you are exactly right. today, i would like to present facts about four key areas. the house has put over here sent over here policy that i
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who we are in terms of both our actually support. and that is defunding the mission and our people. health care bill because of the what we do. damage that it is creating to our country. i wish the c.r. number was a adapt to technology and the threat, take direction from little lower. i wish it was at 967 instead of leadership, use programs and 988 but that is exactly right tools, ensure compliance. and so we are going to be i would like to cover what we cutting off debate on a bill have accomplished for our country with the tools we have been authorized and where do we that the house republicans have sent over to us. go from here. so you are exactly right. and that is an important vote. first, who we are in our mission. and that is a vote in support nsa is a foreign intelligence of the house, something in agency with two missions. we collect foreign intelligence addition supporting the house of national security interest would be getting whatever we're going to do back over to them and we protect certain sensitive information in u.s. networks. so that they are not jammed. but it is my understanding nsa contributes to the security again, relative to this vote of our nations, its armed tonight, happening tomorrow forces, and our allies. instead, is that my two nsa accomplishes this mission colleagues who i respect have sent out e-mails around the world and turned this into a while protecting civil liberties and privacy.
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show possibly and therefore they want people around the nsa operates squarely within the world to watch maybe them and authorities granted by the president, congress, and the others on the senate floor, and courts. that is taking priority over who we are our people. getting legislation back to the house so they can take action i am proud of what nsa does an before the country's government even more proud of these great shuts down. americans and what they do for and, by the way, causing them this nation. the national security agency possibly to put in place again employees take an oath to defend some other good policies. and protect the constitution of i yield. >> i appreciate my friend from the united states. just like you, they will never forget the moment terrorists tennessee's comments. killed 2996 americans in new york and pennsylvania, and the and i would note that he pentagon. they witnessed the first suggested that this is responders. confusing. i guess i don't think it's all that confusing. the senator from tennessee says that a vote in favor of cloture is a vote in favor of the house bill and in favor of defunding i will tell you, that is one of obamacare. if that's the case, then the the things that has been in the question i would pose is why is majority leader harry reid going to vote the same way he thet of the nsa lobby for is proposing to vote? past 10 years. why is every democrat in this
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chamber going to vote the same it is a picture of those first way? is it the senator from responders holding the american flag and passing it off to our military. tennessee's suggestion that the that is what we have done. majority leader and democrats are confused about this vote? >> i would respond that after a in fact, nsa employees -- more 21 filibuster yesterday, you voted in favor of us saying than 6000 nsa personnel have deployed in support of forces in iraq and afghanistan. you're filibustering. so it seems to me that they're very similar. theirs is a noble cause. >> does the senator from tennessee dispute that the vote wednesday was a vote to take up the bill where yazz the vote tomorrow would be a vote tomorrow would be a vote to do they are the true heroes. two things if enough nsa prides itself on its highly skilled workforce. republicans across the aisle we are the largest employer of and join the democrats it will cut off debate and it will -- mathematicians in the united states. what makes the vote tomorrow so we have 1013 mathematicians, 966 significant is the majority leader has already filed an amendment. that amendment guts the house phd's, and 4374 computer continuing resolution and funds scientists. obamacare in its entirety and we have linguists in more than given that amendment is pending 120 languages. and if cloture is invoninged they are americans and they take that can be passd with 51 their privacy and civil
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liberties seriously. votes, does the senator from tennessee disagree that once cloture is invoked harry reid and the majority leader will be able to fund obama care with 51 what we do how we adapt to votes? >> i agree that the senate rule , technology. today's telecommunication system that is in place that allows is literally one of the most complex systems ever devised i post cloture votes, that a 51 -- ever devised by mankind. vote majority has been there for decades and generations and terrorists and other adversaries hide in the global networks, use it's the same rule that we have the same communications networks operated under for decades. as everyone else and take advantage of familiar services, >> let me ask this question. facebook, twitter. so we have a bill before us that i support. gmail. i think the senator from texas technology has made it easy for supports, the senator from utah them. supports, i think. we must develop and apply the so my question is, we have a best analytic tools to succeed at our mission. bill that we support. the rules of the senate have what we do. been here for decades, for we take guidance from our political leadership. generations and for centuries in many cases. so are you thinking the house nsa's direction comes from of representatives would like for us to vote against cloture
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national security needs as defined by the nation's senior on their bill? leaders. let me ask this. nsa does not decide what topics to collect and analyze. and if you think that's what they wish for us to do, why is nsa's collection and analysis is it that they're already driven by the national intelligence priority framework developing language and and received informal tasking. we do understand that electronic legislation that's sent back surveillance capabilities are powerful tools in the hands of over? it seems to me that they have the state. already indicated that they that is why we have extensive view this strategy as a boxed canyon because they understand mandatory internal training, the senate rules. and it looks as if to me they automated checks, and an are already developing language extensive regime of internal and external oversight. to send something back over because even though we are in the senate and all three of us are relatively new, somehow or another they knew the senate what we do. we use lawful programs and tools rules before they sent it over. to do our mission. so i am a little confused. the authorities we have been and tell me what happens if the granted and the capabilities we have developed help keep our nation safe. senate were not to invoke cloture on a bill that we support, what then happens? since 9/11, we have disrupted terrorist attacks at home and i would like to understand. abroad using capabilities >> well, i appreciate that informed by the lessons of 9/11. question from my friend from tennessee. and there are several pieces of it. one, he asked would the house the business record fisa program republicans like for us not to invoke cloture. i can tell you this morning i
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spoke to over a dozen house members who explicitly said it focuses on defending the homeland by linking foreign and would be fantastic if senate domestic threats. republicans could show the same unity we did and vote against cloture because majority leader fisa focuses on reid has filed an amendment to gut our language. i would note also the senator from tennessee keeps expressing confusion. i have to admit i don't think acquiring foreign intelligence, the american people are including critical information concerning international terrorist organizations are confused. and i would ask the senator targeting non-us persons who are regionally believed to be outside the united states. from tennessee, you agreed a nsa also operates in accordance with the provisions. moment ago, if i understood you correctly, that if 60 senators vote in favor of cloture, it is in tort and to remember -- majority leader harry reid will be able to fund obamacare if it is important to remember that its entirety. we are required to obtain a let me ask the counterpart. court order based on a probable if 41 republicans stood cause showing that the together and voted against cloture, because we said we do prospective target of surveillance is a foreign power not support the amendments that or agent of a foreign power. the majority leader reid has filed to fund obamacare when we told our constituents we oppose nsa conducts the majority of its
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obamacare we meant it. so we are not going to be activities solely pursuant to complicit in the ability to fund obamacare would majority authorities provided by the 333.utive order 12- leader harry reid be able to fund obamacare? >> but the thing is, i think these authorities are powerful. we take our responsibility seriously. the senator from texas may be confused, we're not going to be what we do. we ensure compliance. we repeatedly train our entire voting on the amendment. we'll have a chance to vote on workforce and privacy the amendment after the vote on protections and the proper use cloture. the vote on cloture tomorrow is of capabilities. we do make mistakes. a vote on ending debate on a the vast majority of incidents bill we support. reflect the challenge, very specific rules of ever-changing >> the time for the colloquy technology. has expired. is there objection to the compliance incidents with very unanimous consent request rare exception are unintentional offered by the majority leader? and reflect the sorts of errors that will occur in any complex the senator from utah. system of technical activity. >> reserving the right to object i request to modify the the press claimed evidence of request made by the majority thousands of privacy violations. leader. and he turned that down. this is false and misleading. in light of the fact that he turned it down, i object. according to the independent >> objection is heard. inspector general, there've only > the assistant majority
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been 12 substantiated cases. leader. >> what we just witnessed was an effort by senator harry reid to move the critical votes on of willful violation over 10 keeping the government open to years. this evening. essentially one per year. what we have just heard from several of these cases were referred to the department of the republican side of the aisle is they want to stall and justice for potential delay this even more. prosecution, discipline. it isn't just a matter of we hold ourselves accountable losing a legislative day in the every day. senate. most of these cases involve >> the time is still under the improper tasking regarding control of the republicans. foreign persons and foreign places. >> how much time? i know there was time yielded by senator reid to the to repeat i am not aware of any republican side and senator , intentional or willful violations of the statute, which grassley so how much time is remaining at this point on the is designed to be most protective of the privacy republican side? interest of u.s. persons. of the 2776 violations noted in >> the at nating time occurs at the press, about 75% are not violations of court approved 4:30 p.m. procedures at all, but rather >> and at 4:30 then the democrats are recognized? >> that is correct. detection of valid foreign >> and what time is it now? targets the traveled into the >> 4:29.
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-- i could -- targets that travel into the united states. we call those rumors -- we call >> senators are reminded to address each other each in the third person. not by their first and last roamers. these are not names. the senator from tennessee. >> if i could i would just like to say in response to my good friend from illinois it is not compliance incidents. the court asked us to track the republican side that is those and report those so that we can show when they do come into the country, that we shut asking to stall. down the collection right away. we only have two republican 2065 of those 2776 were roamers. senators that are wanting to push this off. so i don't want that to be mischaracterized, if i could, and to say that it is my let me also start to clear the understanding that the reason air on actual compliance that we are putting this off is incidents. because they would like for the vast majority of the actual people around the country that compliance incidents involve they have notified to be able foreign locations and foreign to watch. activities. so it is that process of making sure that everyone watches that as our activities are regulated i think is slowing this down. by specific pools wherever they it's not the entire republican
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side. i think most republicans, i -- by specific rules wherever know all republicans other than they occur. two, would actually like to i think that is important to give the house the opportunity note as a sidebar, we hold ourselves to the same standards to respond in an appropriate overseas in terms of compliance. this system cannot be used willfully by anyone. way. with that yeefl and i have enjoyed this very much. we hold them accountable. if our folks do that, we hold >> the next hour is controlled them accountable. nsa detection collects before by the majority. >> the assistant majority any information is even obtained, used, or shared outside the united states. leader. >> let me start by acknowledging what the senator from tennessee just said. i have worked with senator corker on so many issues, bipartisan issues and i salute him for his efforts to try to find bipartisan solutions. and what he said irning is indicative of the problem that we face now. two senators -- and it is their right under the senate rules. a senator from utah and the junior the senator from texas have decide that had they want to delay this another day, they want to stall this another day. it isn't just losing a legislative day. it is more. look how long it took us to
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bring up the house continuing resolution. we could have done it last friday. we are thinking about voting on it tomorrow, seven days later. it tells you that the senate rules even at their best, with one member objecting, can mean that measures take a long long time. ordinarily it just means we waste time. but this time it is critically more important because the government will not be funded. come tuesday morning all across america we will not fund the government because of the actions just taken on the floor of the senate by senator cruz of texas, senator lee of utah. they are trying to slow this down and to create a political crisis, a political crisis. they are playing high-stakes poker with other peoples' money because the victims will not be the senators and house members. there will be a lot of innocent people. a lot of workers across america who just want to get up and do
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their work for this government to make this the greatest nation on earth some are risks their lives in uniform. they will be paid but their pay chex will be delayed. they have to contact their spouse backs home come tuesday if this delay continues they will have to contact them and say it may be a little difficult this pay period it doesn't look like we're getting a paycheck because congress has shut down the government. there are others, too. all across america. thousands of them. doing their work for this government, the f.b.i. and intelligence agencies, will go dark. why have we reached this point? why do these two senators think this is in the best interest of the united states of america? we have heard reports from economists this cannot help our nation. shutting down the government, failing to extend the debt ceiling, they're going -- we're going to find ourselves in the position where this economy is
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going to start to stall. people will start searching their savings accounts and notice that their investments are going down in value. why? because two republican senators insisted that we couldn't speed up this vote and move this process forward to solve this problem. the theca give us, they've notified their friends in the media and those on e-mail to stay tuned for friday. friday is going to be the big day. their big day in the sun. and so we're delaying our actions here for a full day so that they can get adequate publicity for what they are about to do. that is not in the best interest of the senate. it sure is not in the best interests of the united states of america. snast reid made an effort to come forward and expedite this process. there are people who warned us not to do that. send this back to the house give them time to do something and senator reid said we will not be party to delaying this
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critically important decision. there is too much at stake, we're going to move this as quickly as we can, and we have. at this point it is on the shoulders of those two senators who have decided that they want to close down the government or at least come closer to running the risk of closing down this government. that isn't in the best interest of dealing with the issues that face america. my job on the senate appropriations committee is to be the chair of one of the most important sques. the defense appropriations subcommittee. i never dreamed i would have this responsibility but with the passing of a gin win american hero dan inoy of hawaii this mannedle fell on my shoulders. almost 50% of all funds go through this one sque. there is a lot of hard work in putting the appropriation together. but when you consider the responsibility we have, it is even more substantial.
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this appropriations supports our men and women in uniform and the nation's intelligence agencies that keep our country safe. let me tell you what a got shutdown is going to mean to them. a government shutdown is going to mean a lot of hardship, i mentioned earlier, uniformed troops calling their spouses to say we're not going to get our paycheck on time this month. try to make due if you need it. something totally unnecessary. something brought on by action on the floor of the united states senate just minutes ago by two republican senators. there are more than 700,000 civilian employees at the department of defense and half will be sent home immediately come tuesday morning, sent home. men and women who work at military installations and the pentagon, sent home from work. over 80% of the dopt of defense civilians work outside the pentagon, 12,000 work in my state. they will be given notice on tuesday morning, you have to go
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home. why? because there was a promise made for some pub lissty on friday. that is unacceptable. a substantial number of these hard-working men and women are going to be furloughed because of a sequester and now if we allow this government to shut down once again they will have to figure out how to make ends meet. men and women trying to keep us safe in this country are now going to be pawns in this political game. it is an unconscionable breach of faith. the risk of national security is not confined to the military. it will cripple our intelligence community. these men and women serve as our country's first line of defense. we rely on our age -- these agencies to warn us of threats. the intelligence community workforce overwhelmingly made up of civilians and the greatest portion of them will be furloughed because of the
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government shutdown that is totally unnecessary brought on by the house republicans and two senate republicans. this shutdown will be quick and the principled agencies will likely go dark within 4-8 hours of the shutdown order. america, its intelligence agencies that keep us safe, are going to go dark because of this political strategy. if the government shuts down, all d.o.d. work will stop on weapons and equipment maintenance not directly related to war, bases will not be maintained. you will see massive disruptions all across this country. the rock island arsenal in my state, a critical arsenal that supports more than 54,000 active reserve and retired military, the arsenal is the largest employer in the illinois iowa region with more than 7,500 employees and more than 70 federal and commercial tenants, the facility adds $1
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billion to the local economy supporting 14,000 jobs in the region. a got shutdown will throw production schedules into chaos as civilians are sent home. i couldn't imagine going to these men and women and saying the reason that you've had this furlough and can't come to work is because two senators decided they needed some publicity on friday. putting the arsenal's capabilities at risk degrades the defense industrial base. it jeopardizes our national and local economy. the same thing is true at scott air force base. in a shutdown it is 5,000 civilian employees would experience the same loss of pay as everybody else. 5500 active military personnel would have to get by on savings and reserve as they wait for reimbursement. when you go through these lists you think how totally unnecessary this is. senator reid has come to the floor repeatedly to tell you
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what the american people think. 80% think this is foolish and wasteful. 75% of republicans have given up on this strategy. and yet a handful of willful members of the house and senate decide they're just going to keep going down this road. well, i hope that they will have some revelations in the next few minutes or hours, maybe overnight. i hope that they will reconsider what they have done here. the risk that is they are putting this country. it is just not appropriate. it is not fair. i listened to them try to explain how they can have a filibuster for 21 hours and then turn around and unanimously vote for the next item up on business. it may be an argument that the senator from texas thinks he understands clearly. most americans don't understand what he was saying for 21 hours and then voting overwhelmingly
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to move forward on the bill. and let me make one thing clear before we go any further. obamacare as we know it is already funded. senator harry reid is not going to be funding obamacare. it is already funded and it will be. it will be under appropriation bills that we pass and cr's. and this notion that he is somehow going to do something sinister -- let me remind his critics we have brought this to a vote on the senate one of the most historic votes, painful votes. senator reid you may remember when our colleague senator ted kennedy was brought here on the floor of the united states senate to vote for that affordable care act, the man was literally dying of cancer. but this meant so much to him that he came down here for the vote. at great personal risk and sacrifice. it was great to see his smiling face come through that door again but we knew we would never see him again and we didn't. that was the kind of sacrifice that was made. the votes were taken. then in the next presidential
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election there was a referendum and the american people were clear. they reelected president obama. they rejected governor romney's promise to repeal obamacare. these members at least two of them can't accept the verdict of history they continue to want to fight this battle but they are fighting it at the expense of a lot of innocent people across america, at the expense of some of the best workers in the world, those in military uniform and those in the civilian capacity do a great job for us every single day. picking on them, deciding to make them the object of this political exercise is beneath us as a great institution. i will give credit to senator cruz, when he was doing his 21 hours, i asked him point blank, so you want to eliminate the protection in obamacare that says that hins companies can't discriminate against children and families that have
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preexisting conditions? yes, he said i do. i want to eliminate all of it. i said you want to eliminate the position that says you can't limit the coverage and health insurance policies so that people will have enough money for serious illness and cancer therapy and surgery? i want to elimb it all. you want to eliminate that protection to keep kids on their policies for up to age 26, young people looking for jobs, you want to eliminate that too? i want to eliminate every bit of it. he was consistent. consistently wrong. because he fails to understand what working families across america face every single day, what 50 million uninsured americans face with no protection, no peace of mind. god forbid he ever spends a moment, the parent of a sick child without health insurance. i've been there. you never want that experience in your life for yourself or anybody else. i ask senator cruz to tell us
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about his own personal health insurance since he decided he is going to be the arbiter for the rest of america and for congress. he won't give me a straight answer on how he has his own health insurance for his family. he has told us a lot about his great family and there are some wonderful stories. when it comes to this issue he ought to tell us where does he get his? who plays for it? what's the tax deduction taken by your employer if any for your health insurance? these are legitimate questions. he has raised these questions about millions of families across america. they said they are just fine. we can do about obamacare. let's hear his explanation about how he protects his family. i don't think that's an unreasonable question. after all, he is the one who raised the issue. i yield the floor. >> senators agreed to meet this morningber a series of votes. the bill is expected to pass
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and sent back to the house without a provision defunding the health care law. the house could take up the bill as early as noon on aturday. >> president wilson's wife died just 17 months after he took office and just over a year later he remarried. our program on first ladies elen and edith wilson airs saturday. then live monday night our eries continues. this was a perfect backdrop for the campaign. not only did it show the human side of the party, the fact that they did not live in a mantion they lived in a very normal house like most of the folks coming to see him speak. she was very much a part of
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this message. she was a very visible part of his campaign. she was always near him on the front porch when he was speaking. he gave interviews herself to magazines, especially women's magazines. she at nated between being the savvy politician, to being the home body, the wife, the care taker of the candidate. so she knew how politics worked. >> meet first lady florence harding. monday night live on c-span. >> in a few moments, the news of new orleans and philadelphia on gun violence in american cities. live at 7:00 eastern the focus on the congressional debate on federal spending and health care. and the house will be back in session at 9:00 eastern to consider several bills under a procedure for bills some considered to be
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noncontroversial. >> several live events to tell you about today on c-span 3. new york senator jill brand is among the speakers on a forum on women and the economy hosted , by the center for american progress. at noon a discussion on disarming chemical weapons then at 2:00 p.m. eastern live with the defense department on its plans for a potential government shutdown.
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>> the mayors of new orleans and philadelphia told a national press club audience thursday that gun violence is a national issue and deserves congressional attention. mitch land rue and michael utter spoke for an hour. >> good afternoon and welcome to the national press club. i am a reporter for bloomberg news and the 106th president of the national press club. we are the world's leading professional organization for journalists committed to our profession's future through programming such as this while fostering a free press worldwide. to donate to programs offered to the public through our journalism institute please
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visit. on behalf of our members worldwide i would like to welcome our speakers today and those of you in the audience. our head table includes guests of our speakers as well as working journalist whose are club members. and if you hear applause from our audience i would note that members of the general public are also attending so it is not necessarily evidence of a lack of journalistic object tivity. i also would like to welcome our c-span and public radio audiences. you can follow the action today on twitter using the hash tag. after our guest speech concludes we'll have a question and answer period and i will ask as many questions as time permits. now it is time to introduce our guests. please stand briefly as your name is announced. rom your right, jeffry, a news editor and member of national press club board of governors. carolyn, director of federal
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relations for the national league of cities. dr. bell, the president and ceo of casey family programs. dina, reporter for u.s.a. today, former national press club president and vice club resident, and the vice chairwoman of the speakers committee. our speaker for just a moment, allison fitzgerald, project manager for the center of integrity and the chairwoman of the national press club speakers committee. bob carden with cardin medications and a speakers committee member who organized today's lunch. kenneth junior, united states attorney for the eastern this route up louisiana. jennifer babich, the washington time warner for cable. ryan dalton, the city of new orleans midnight basketball former gangand a member.
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