florence harding. that programr saturday night. just a program change for tonight. i have a few things to say. as a federal employee, i just photo albumsp 15 of money back to the government. now we will get shut down again. it is ridiculous. it is ridiculous that people call in and say, i hope the government shuts down. know as a family man, i do not wait until the last minute to balance the budget of what will go on. and they areund

waiting until the last minute. i can guarantee you if their jobs were on the line as far as their money, they would have it done in 10 minutes. >> you said you work for the federal government? what kind ofof -- work do you do? urban,ocratic whip, did on the floor now. we expect a vote sometime in the next half hour or 40 minutes. they will deal with the two changes of the senate. is linda in st. john's minnesota, michigan -- michigan. thank you for taking my

call. i appreciated. i come from the the state of the teamsters. for havinged itself democrats for five decades run it. i just want to say this. i get tired of harry reid calling me anarchist. i get tired of michigan state professors telling young kids that republicans are murdering the country. . am a lifelong conservative it should be good enough for rock obama and all the rest of the cronies that work for him. this man has changed his health care law since day one. tois not ready, obviously, be put in to the public, to make

it work. the population that did not vote for it and did not want it, it went through on a partisan vote. all democrats. there are 50% of us out here who do not want it and do not like it. for jimmy and the other guys, the aircraft worker, they need to understand this is not going to work. this will hurt a lot of americans who have health insurance and have earned it. it is something that should be earned. it is not a right for every human being. if you do not get out there and work, and tried to make your when iat are -- i mean, was a young 20-year-old with a child, i had to go down and get federal assistance for almost a year. they gave me insurance. i truly appreciated that.

i got my but out there and i got a health i got insurance, the company i work for, and i went back and said, thank you, i do not need it anymore. >> thank you. we are waiting for the house to come back in. .hey have recessed they will come back at some point. the ball is now in the senate's court, on c-span2. they will deal with these two proposed changes to the continuing resolution, again delaying the implementation of the individual mandate, set to go into effect tomorrow. the other change would be to block the subsidies for members of congress and staff for help there. a couple of tweaks. here is a tweet from tammy. when this takes affect amaro and i have to pay $300 a month and the dockable's of $10,000 a year, how could of that -- is that for me? ted said he will

not vote for a symbol -- single 2014. and in 2016 and on our democrats line, good evening. >> yes. i was listening to the young lady before. my wife worked on her job 15 years when they sold her company. at the time, she needed insurance. high blood pressure, no way to get to a doctor. at least with the affordable health care act, now we can go online at 12:00 at night and i can look and see if there is some type of insurance we can afford, so that she can continue to take care of her blood pressure problems. we are not begging for nothing. i think anybody will say there is not a right that anybody and everybody should be taken care of when it comes to their health problems, do not

understand the moral it -- morals of this country. that is one thing we should being ant every human child, should be able to go to a doctor and be able to take care of day self's needs. the republicans are wrong. all they care about is insurance companies and money. >> the senate is in session. they will be shortly dealing with the two proposed changes from the house. david from tucson on our independent line. david. tucson. kevin, tucson, arizona. >> hello. >> you are on the air. >> i apologize. you said david.

>> go ahead, you are on the air. caller: three comments. the 27th amendment attempting the salaries, benefits, and all the perks that the congressman , if thators receive were changed, these types of problem's would not arise. whohave several callers mentioned that if their salaries were tied to the continuing resolution bill, the government would not shut down. is that when ant business does not work, you shut it down. you close it. .hat is common sense to me my third comment is that we need term limits. after fdr, to make sure we had

a term limit on our president. have asupposed to government for the people, by the people. byt we have is a government the politicians and not necessarily for the people. i think if we were to implement and limits for congress for the senate, especially the senate, we would not have -- an undiplomatic way of dealing with these types of issues. thank you. >> thanks for that call. midnight tonight is the end of the fiscal year. here is a look at the potential impact of the federal government shutdown. the the fiscal year ending admin night tonight. the new budget year starting tomorrow. there have been 17 government

1977.wns since the last shutdown, 1995, there will be approximately 800,000 civilian workers furloughed, including the national park, the federal museum's overseas offices, regulatory offices and agencies, and a lot of federal grant and contract offices. a couple more of your calls. they've it is on our republican line. hello. >> good afternoon. a lot of people woke up to the -- note supreme court understanding the ramifications. one thing not resonating with the american public. , twoit is fully implements

things will happen. and it will happen in 2014, january and early march, when to fileo to the tax man for their incomes have, they will wake up to a rude chunk, if that a good not half, of their income -- income tax return, will be taken away, because they cannot afford the health care available to them. [indiscernible] you are adding another burden to me. we are required to have car insurance in this state that i

have to pay my car insurance. whole country pay insurance. >> one more call to south carolina. democrats, myrtle beach. make sure you mute your television or radio and have your comment. i will move on. our independent line in montana. make sure to mute your television. you are feeding back on us. caller: i am just calling to ind out -- can you hear me? was just calling because the more i watch these programs and the more i see what is going on on the programs, i have watched the democrats, republicans, and independents. one thing i have noticed a lot of is i look at the republican , and i see basically a lot

of white guys and a couple white women. i watch the democrat party and i see white guys and i see black men. i see white women. i see black women. then i see what goes on in our government and the republicans are saying the very same thing over and over and over. it is almost like, who is telling them what to say? i see what is going on with the president and i get the feeling there is a lot of prejudice going on. there is a lot of racism going on. him.will not even talk to >> thank you for your calls. thank you for all of your called this evening. more of them coming up as well. the house is in recess subject to the call of the chair. they are waiting. they just passed changes to the resolution. now they have gone to the house. the changes will be -- the

senate, rather. you can follow the senate debate on c-span two. the two changes, the individual mandate, and also stripping away the subsidies for member dues -- members of congress and their staff. it is likely the senate will likewise strike goes out and send it back to the house. longshot oner by a capitol hill. we we want to remind you our isgram, "first ladies" airing this evening live on c- span three. re-air it in its entirety this saturday night at 7:00 eastern. more from capitol hill coming up your it up next, we will take that just debate wrapped up in the house over the two proposed changes. the final vote is now in the senate hands. here what -- here is what it looked like earlier on the senate floor. >> i rise to move forward once

again. continuingerm resolution that will keep the government open after the end of the 2013 fiscal year at midnight tonight. we simply cannot wait a second longer. at this late hour, we must move ahead. .t an accelerated pace to keep the doors of our government open. for the sake of the nation, we must pass continuing resolution. is operative word here "continuing." the bills we have had on the floor, including this most recent version , do not set downe government.

, and the most immediate issue at hand, funding the government for the 2014 fiscal year. we did not bring a resolution to shut down the government. we brought a continuing resolution. to continue the government. a shutdown will help no one. it will only harm our nation security and economy. it will hurt our people, who rely on the federal government's program and services in some way or another, and who puts faith in their government to act in their best interest.

the house is not the body refusing to act. we are not the ones not willing to budge. -- this is offered the third or fourth compromise to the senate here they simply ignore us, throw it in the trashcan. house republicans have now ,ffered multiple bills including one with just a repeal of the widely unpopular -- unpopular device. we have incorporated changes the senate had proposed. the senate refuses still to engage, as does the white house. today, we offer yet another piece of legislation designed keep the government open. previous cr the house has considered, this continuing resolution will fund the government at the current post sequestration funding rate varied it will incorporate most

of the senate's changes to our first cr and include additional changes proposed as an amendment and that were added to the house saturday night. it will also delay for one year obamacare's individual mandate. and eliminate the employer the health insurance plans of members of congress. and for political employees at the white house. no one, mr. speaker, is going to like everything in this bill. i don't like everything in this bill. but the continuing resolution before us today is the most immediate path to avoiding a shutdown. i expect that the house will do the right thing and approve this c.r. today.

i remain hopeful that the senate will work with the house and pass this legislation. the people of this great nation deserve more. they deserve a government that works for them, not against them. at the very least, that is a government that keeps its doors open so i urge all members, every single member, to vote yes on this continuing resolution. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves his time. >>e gentlelady from new york. i yield as much time as i may consume. the majority insists on taking the country toward a shutdown in a few short hours.

as the clock ticks toward midnight, when appropriations will last and the government will shut down, republicans have put forward the third version of a bill designed to shut down government unless we delay, denyd, and an -- and affordable health care to american families. republicans claim that democrats refused to negotiate. let's review the history. republicans pushed us to the brink of default in the summer of 2011, resulting in a ready downgrade. republicans walked out of negotiations with the president last december. aimed at reaching a budget deal for this year.

republican leadership came to the tea party and withdrew a plan that would've ended this standof by separating health care legislation. now, republicans refuse to say great concession made by democrats in the senate and the white house on the republicans ending level. is no way to run the house of representatives. serve the way to hard-working people of the united states of america, whom we represent, and i urge my colleagues to vote against the republican government shutdown. i yield back.

>> i never supported obamacare because it is not sound policy. why notwhy not should the congress and president and vice president entered as well? today's vote is about fairness. i want to make sure we eliminate obamacare. the american public understands what is going on and that congress always carves out there only special -- special interests and special treatment. it is not about gamesmanship. this is about leading by example.

i stood on this floor saturday and explained why this is so important for the american people and this congress. i will say to you, even though it is politically difficult, and sometimes politically hard to do the right thing, doing the right thing is always the right thing to do. i would urge support of this cr and i thank you. i yield back. >> i yield for unanimous consent. >> the gentlelady from new york. >> i yield two minutes to the distinguished length -- ranking member, the labor help human services education committee.

>> recognized for two minutes. >> this will damage our economy. hundreds of thousands of workers will be sent home. many will continue to work without pay. home and small business lending will freeze. life-saving research will be put on hold. is thing this will not stop the affordable care act going into effect. that act is the law of the land. and roman begins. coveragerdable health is available.

instead of working with democrats to move a budget forward, the leadership is allowing both fringe ideologues in their party to turn the budget process into a hostage crisis. kill this the court -- affordable care act or america gets it. this is not responsible leadership. delay in this amendment will cause higher health insurance premiums and higher cost for the government and worse health care coverage for everyone. the majority knows exactly what they are doing. two days ago, they introduced amendments that were -- we see an equally a poisonous amendment to the budget today. for a shutdown. one republican member said tonight, they are very excited and it is exactly what they wanted and they got it aired another said, and i quote, it is wonderful. it is not wonderful. it is terrible for our economy. and for our families. .his is extortion

this is hostage taking. i urge my colleagues to oppose it. i yield back. >> the gentleman from kentucky. >> two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from ohio. >> the gentlelady from ohio is recognized. >> i think the ranking member for yielding. our nation is stronger when we come together, as we the people, to solve serious challenges facing our country. we find ourselves on the precipice of a gop shutdown. the standoff between the party and other republicans is now leading to a gop shutdown of our entire federal government. extreme partisanship threatens our economic.

bet nasa employees will sent home. here in washington, as world war ii veterans are on their way here across the country to visit the world war ii memorial, we will find the visitor center closed. we cannot continue to govern by us dad drank from manufactured crisis to manufactured crisis. the madness must stop. america needs leadership. we need statement ship. not ring seamanship. puttinghas work to do, our people back to work on educating the next generation, curbing crime, and improving health care. the republicans want to shutdown the government? this will deeply hurt our our country and ohio. there is no reason or beyond shameful partisan politics.

it is time for republicans to voteto their senses -- against the gop shutdown. >> the time for the gentlelady has expired. the gentleman from kentucky. >> i yield three minutes to my neighbor in kentucky. the gentleman from lexington. >> thank you. they can mr. chairman. tonight, the house is voting, once again, to fund the government and prevent a shutdown. the house is also continuing an effort to listen to the american people and give a voice to those who want to limit the harmful impact of obamacare. the president says the house is shutting down the government. the house has acted multiple times to prevent a government shutdown. it is the president and senate majority leader who are refusing in the ghost eight,

refusing to compromise and seek a bipartisan solution, or a middle ground. the president will negotiate with vladimir putin. the president will negotiate with leaders of iran. he will not negotiate with duly represented -- in divided government, the only way forward is to negotiate. the american people witnessed one party rule in 2010, when congress rammed through obamacare on a partyline vote. they did not like it. the only thing bipartisan about obamacare in 2010 was the bipartisan opposition to it. so they elected a difference -- different congress and divided power. inn you have divided power government, the only way forward, when there is a different in opinion is to negotiate and compromise. i come from the district of

henry clay, a great speaker of the house. he is a model for this president and this congress. andeed to come together negotiate and abandon the stubborn refusal to leave, which will guarantee a government shutdown. the president needs to work with house republicans to find a middle ground. this is the middle ground. when i found out members of congress, the president, members of this cabinet, and the politically weak in washington got a special exemption from obamacare, i introduced a simple two-page piece of legislation. it is called the live i the loss. you write act. you allow the administration to delay obamacare for large employers ? d exempt members of congress

i call on my colleagues in the house, both on the side and that side of the aisle, to support fairness for the american people. if obamacare is what the president insists on, it should apply to everyone. that includes politicians in washington. with that, i yield back. >> two minutes to the ranking member from indiana. from indiana is recognized for two minutes. >> i appreciate the gentleman for yielding. a loteaker, i have heard of discussion about the budget. i have heard a lot of discussion

about a continuing resolution. have heard a lot about the affordable care act. chairman of the appropriations committee here on the floor and i see the ranking member of the appropriations committee on the floor. i do not hear a lot of discussion about what i would call the operative word tonight. that is appropriations. one, section eight, of the united states constitution, congress is charged with constituting tribunal courts, inferior to the supreme court. we are told we need to appropriate those moneys tribunal courts to do so. we are told congress must

provide and maintain a navy. in section nine, we are told provide and maintain a navy. 2.5 months before we tell them what they're going to do. i would suggest the operative word tonight is appropriations. --should do the answer energy and water appropriations bill. we should do the homeland security appropriations bill and the homeland security appropriations bill.

we should do the other bills necessary to defund the operation for the greatest country on planet earth and stop the homeland security appropriations bill and the homeland security appropriations bill. we should do the other bills necessary to defund the operation what we are doing her. thank you very much. >> the time has expired. .he gentleman from can techie >> i recognize the gentleman from texas, mr. weber, for two minutes. >> thank you. one, obamacare passed by the house democrats, 219 of them, 34 democrats joined the republicans in opposition. let's see how many join the republicans in this upcoming vote. republicans -- fact two, republicans have been and are poised to fun everything in the government at current levels and are eager to do so. fact three, polls show americans are overwhelmingly in favor of defund og ba ma cair. fact four, the house, like it or not, our colleagues on the other side of the aisle, the house is the keeper of the purse under the constitution and we are well within our authority to defund an ill-conceived and unpopular

program and law. now they say the republicans will shut down the government but i will submit this, mr. speaker. the democrats begin to -- began to shut down the government in 2010 when they passed obamacare with no bipartisan support. they not only began to shut down the government, but the recovery of the american economy. for them to come now and say this is a republican shutdown is unbelievable. we stand ready, willing, and able to fund this. there's only one question that remanes, mr. speaker. four facts, one simple question. will those same democrats that voted in opposition of obamacare and the senate listen to the american public, will they listen to their constituents, will they vote with us this time, so that our government can be funded, no shutdown will be necessary and american economy can continue to thrive?

i'm randy weber, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: at this time, the gentlelady from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: i yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from virginia, the ranking member of the interior subcommittee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. moran: i thank my good friend. so apparently we are here because a bunch of folks on the republican side, tea party folks, fancy themselves strict

constructionists. i remind them that the founding fathers set up the senate so the house would act rationally and responsibly on a consistent basis. george washington warned us against factualism. they urged us to pay our debts and underscored that when you have a disagreement it should be resolved democratically. so we have a bill that passed the house and senate, we have two national renchda, presidential elections, president obama wins by five million votes, we don't have the right to repeal obamacare, it's the law of the land. but now i understand that unless you gut this legislation for an entire year that the republican majority will not even fund the government for 45 days? really? what kind of deal is that? that's not reasonable. the idea that you would send 800,000 people home tomorrow, not knowing when they come back to work, not even allowing them back to their offices, take

billions out of this economy, erode the confidence that people in the united states and around the world ought to be able to have in the united states government, and you're going to do all this because you want to repeal a bill that is the law of the land? just because you have the leverage that you can hold up the government from being able to operate for 45 days? that's nuts. our founders would be ashamed of what this congress has become. we're dysfunctional. we ought to be ashamed of ourselves. this ought to be defeated. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the time of the gentleman has

expired. the gentleman from kentucky. mr. rogers: mr. speaker, i reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new york. mrs. lowey: i'm pleased to yield two minutes to the gentleman from north carolina, mr. price. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from north carolina is recognized for two minutes. mr. price: mr. speaker, we're just now hours away from the tea party inspired government shutdown. our republican colleague -- here our republican colleagues go again, holding the economy hostage to their ideological demands and take it or leave it politics. this isn't the behavior of responsible legislators or a responsible political party willing to do what it takes to govern. the only party that's compromised on the bill before us is the democrats, who agreed to a short-term funding level below the senate resolution despite our belief we should replacing sequestration instead of locking it in. by contrast, republican leaders have steadfastly refused to go to conference to work out a budget with senate democrats. they walked away from negotiations with the president on a comprehensive budget deal in december. and now it is republicans, as the president said, who are demanding a ransom merely for doing their job. of keeping the government open that ransom, incredibly is health insurance for millions of our fellow citizens.

the affordable care act has been upheld as the law of the land by a majority of congress, the majority of the u.s. supreme court and a majority of americans at the ballot box. if the junior senator from texas and his acolytes think they can overturn these decisions unilaterally, i suggest they consult the constitution and i'd be happy to loan them a copy. mr. speaker, we've got to reject this latest republican ploy and in this body, in this country, we've got to get back to the base exs. -- basics. keep the government running. pay the country's bills. and negotiate a comprehensive budget plan that ensures our fiscal future. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky. mr. rogers: i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new york.

ms. lowey spst -- mrs. lowey: i'm pleased to yield two minutes to the gentleman from california. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. >> thank you for yielding. for those who may not understand, all we have to do is pass a bill in the house that lets us keep the goth open and continue to argue the other issues. but that's not what we're doing. we're taking that bill and just loading it up with a bunch of stuff that's been on the -- been rejected time and time again, and the consequence of that is you're not going to have a bill to the president tonight and the government will have to shut down. it's a huge mistake. and it's not something we do -- we've never done it. in fact, the time i've been

here, we've had big partisan disputes. our party fought vehemently against president bush's decision to go to war in iraq. we thought it was without evidence and certainly was going to cost the government a lot of money and probably not have great outcomes. we didn't shut down the government after we lost that debate. instead, we tried to make it work. we fought against welfare reform. we thought that that reform would make everybody go to work even though they didn't know how

to read and write, mothers who should have been taking care of their children, we fought against it and we lost. we didn't shut down government, we made it work. we fought against -- when wall street came in and said tomorrow we fail. we thought, well, it's republican watch, they're responsible for this, wall street is their business, they like that, but when we were told this would bring down the economy of the country and the world, we helped get it passed. in fact, there were more democratic votes than republican votes. we didn't shut down government work made it work. tonight, we're on the verge of shutting down government. it's going to hurt a lot of people.

it's going to hurt farmers who want to export food. it's going to hurt .7 million mothers in this country who want to feed their children on the w.i.c. program. it's going to hurt 13 million children who go to school and will lose access to a school breakfast. it's going to hurt 31 million children who will lose their school meals and 47 low income people will not be able to get food stamps. it's a mean, reckless, ill-conceived idea to shut down government. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky. mr. rogers: i reserve, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new york. mrs. lowey: i'm pleased to yield two minutes to the distinguished representative from california, ms. barbara lee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from california is recognized for two minutes. ms. lee: thank you very much. i want to thank the gentlelady for yielding. first, let me just say, here we go again, mr. speaker. it's no secret that the tea party republicans came here not really as public servants but to destroy and decimate our government. now we are only hours away from tea party extremists achieving their goal of shutting down the government. this is really their dream vote. they want to shut down the government and declare victory. frankly, mr. speaker, this is shameful and down right wrong. their dream of shutdown will create a nightmare for millions. what about the government work forest who have families to

feed, mortgages, and rent to pay. what about small businesses that stand to pay the cost of the tea party antics? and yes, what about women and children who will lose knew tregs assistance. this is down right mean. make no mistake, the unnecessary g.o.p. shutdown will have serious consequences for millions and it's entirely unnecessary. it's not enough that the republicans have already voted 45 times to repeal all or parts of the affordable care act and it's not enough that the affordable care act is the law of the land and was upheld by the supreme court. tea party extremists now want to violate this law in a very sinister way. it's not enough that this shutdown will hurt families and our economy. this tea party obsession -- and it's an obsession, to kill the government and deny health care to millions of americans, this must end. they need to do their job and keep the government open. as president obama said this afternoon, you don't get to extract a ransom for doing your job.

this hostage taking must end. we must vote no. we must keep the government open. and i just urge all of us to think about those people who will wake up tomorrow morning with their lives in such disarray, the uncertainty that's going to exist. we should not do this. the american people don't deserve this. we need to keep the government open. we're pleading with the tea party extremists, do not shut the government down. the speaker pro tempore: the time of the gentlelady has ex-peered. the gentleman from kentucky. mr. rogers: i yield three minutes to the chairman of the appropriations subcommittee for labor, health and human services, mr. kingston from georgia. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for three minutes. mr. kingston: i thank the gentleman from kentucky and thank you, mr. speaker. i want to say we are here tonight to keep the government open. i keep hearing we want to shut the government down but this is our third attempt to send

something to the u.s. senate to give them an opportunity to negotiate with us. and why are we here talking about a continuing resolution to begin with? we're here because this year the house appropriations committee work my colleagues on the other side have passed five separate appropriations bill. now there are 12 total. but unfortunately, during the time period that we passed five, the senate has passed zero. last year, the house passed seven and the senate passed one. after a while you see there's a pattern. the senate doesn't want to work on regular order. the senate really does prefer continuing resolutions because then they can pull stunts like the one harry reid is doing now. you know, mr. speaker, where were they yesterday? where were they this weekend? the senate adjourned. where was the president? he was playing golf. he was so concerned about the government being shut down. what is the issue with obamacare? the speaker at the time, ms. pelosi, said we need to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it.

now that bill has grown to 7 1/2 feet in height and we are reading what's in it but two things we know it does not flesh, it does not decrease the cost of health care, and it does not increase the accessibility. and those were the two major objectives. those were the selling points. health care is one sixth of the economy. therefore i think it's the right thing to fight over. this is something that -- that affects every american. we know already that premiums have skyrocketed under obamacare and they'll only grow worse. we also know that many major companies and smaller companies are stopping providing insurance to their employees. accessibility is going down as well. so obamacare has been a failure. why is it that the democrat party believes in it so bad even

when it fails they can't let go? i don't think it's a bad thing to say, hey, you know what, we were wrong. we tried to decrease the cost of health care, tried to increase accessibility, but we did not achieve that. therefore maybe harry reid should sit down with speaker boehner. maybe the president of the united states can interrupt his negotiations with the iranians and come talk to the americans, i.e., republican americans. i think it would be a good thing. this again, mr. speaker, this will be our third attempt to work with the harry reid democrats to keep the government open but i want to say this also to my friends on the other side of the aisle who have said they want to shut down the the democrats

controlled the house, the democrats controlled the senate. there was a democrat in the white house. over the history, the last 25 years, there have been a number of government shutdowns. until the senate, the house, and the white house, sat down and negotiated. that is all we are saying tonight. we understand. we do not control government. but we are willing to negotiate. it is time for cooler heads to prevail in the u.s. senate. it is time for the u.s. senate to have adult leadership and sit down with house leadership and hammer out the differences. that is why we are here right now. the senate i believe has already gone home. i guess the president is no

longer playing golf. to negotiate. with that, i yield back the balance of my time. .> the gentlelady from new york >> may i ask how much time remaining? >> four minutes remaining. frome gentleman it kentucky has five and one half minutes remaining. to yield oneed minute to the gentleman from minnesota. >> the gentleman from minnesota is recognized for one minute. 800,000peaker, it federal employees, think about what their fate will be, a very few hours from now. asare on the house floor republican colleagues say, they will pay for the government if you a -- secede to these three

or four demands. everyday, it seems like they come come up with new demands but they do not ever arrive at funding the government. the american people know there is a senate bill that is ready that we can put on the floor now and fund the government and avert the shut down. is, will our republican colleagues and mr. speaker do that? there are moments when the leadership is at issue. this is one of them. willed a leadership that ,tand here and put the clean continuing resolution on the floor so we can avert a government shutdown and make sure federal employees can pay their mortgage and have a future. i yield back. .> the gentleman from kentucky >> i yield one minute to the

gentleman from ohio. >> recognized for one minute eerie >> let me thank my colleague for yielding. the american people do not want a shut down and neither do i. i did not come here to shut down the government. i came here to fight for a smaller, less costly, and more accountable federal government. we find ourselves in this moment, dealing with a loss that is causing unknown consequences and unknown damage to the american people and the economy. that issue is obamacare. , itthose who do not recall was passed in the middle of the night. 2300 pages no one had ever read here it all types of consequences for the american , alle, our constituents kinds of consequences for employers. as a result, over the last year or so, the last couple of years, the president, given his friends and labor unions 1100 waivers to

the law. summer, the president decided they will not enforce the employer mandate. employers around the country are all upset about having -- to make sure they provided health care for their employees, causing big problems. the result of all of this is you have got employers all over the country who cannot hire people who are cutting the hours of the workers, and having a devastating impact. something has to be done. my republican colleagues and i thought we should the fund the law for a year. we shall we -- thought we should delay it. our senate democrats do not want to get down that path. this is an issue of fairness. waivers andive breaks to all the big union guys out there? alldo we give a break to the big businesses out there, and yet, stick our constituents

with a bill they do not want and cannot afford? what this fight is all about. i talked to the president earlier tonight. "i will not negotiate. i will not do this. " i would say to the president, this is not about me and not about republicans here in congress. it is about fairness for the american people. why do we not make sure every american is treated just like we are? under the law, some decision, there is an idea we will get some exemption. no. we will not get an exemption. the bill before us is very simple. it fund the government. and it says, let's treat our constituents fairly. for the nextte year that you have to buy insurance you cannot enforce -- afford. those are the only two issues here.

all the senate has to do is say yes and the government is funded tomorrow. let's listen to our constituents and treat them the way we would want to be treated. i yield back. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] two am pleased to yield menace to the distinguished gentleman from maryland. >> the gentleman from maryland is recognized for two minutes. >> i thank you, speaker. tonight is about the continuing destructive obsession that our republican friends have and their refusal to recognize there was an election just some months ago. you made the argument to the american people and they rejected that argument and reelected president obama. you have not gotten over that to this minute.

as a result, you are about to shut down the government. you can get up here and say over and over and over again, we do not want to shut down the government. the lie yourons words. -- no one is against shutting down the government. it is bad for the people. fors that for security, economy, jobs, and you all know that. you do not have the votes. democrats asected the majority in the senate and the president of the united states. they do not agree with you. was the case, you have to compromise. what compromise are we talking bout? we are taking your number.

your number. for anl not take yes answer. how sad. what a shameful day this is. in the history of the house of representatives. a shutdown would be harmful to our economy, national security, and the grace of jobs, as i just said. that is why we have compromise and said we will take your number to keep the government open while we negotiate over the next it's weeks. nobody in your party rationally believes for an answer. you would succeed in your objective. no one. it is a political ploy. --is a message to your most mr. speaker, to their most radical contingents. willing toly -- we are and where we need to be in the next few me -- few weeks. can i have one additional minute? >> the german threat nice. >> we can do that if the republicans would take yes for an answer. their teeth arty fashion has

made it clear where it stands. tea party. i -- the affordable care act has been upheld by the supreme court and remains the law of our land. the senate has voted twice now to send us a clean cr. now it is time for the speaker and the majority leader to put the senate on the cr on this floor and let the house work its will. have the courage, mr. speaker, to have the majority party put on this floor a bill which will keep the government open and which the senate will pass. have the republican party have the courage of its rhetoric and let the house work its will. i gary you to do that. -- i dare you to do that.

let democracy work. do not be dictating to america that they will shut down the government. let's vote on it. put a clean cr on this floor. i yield back the balance of my time. [applause] >> the gem and from kentucky >> may i inquire how many speakers? expired.me hasn't -- >> i yield the bounds of our time to one minute to the very distinguished majority leader of of house, mr. cantor virginia. >> the majority leader is is recognized for the balance of the time. >> thank you. i thank the gentleman from kentucky and his leadership in bringing this bill to the floor. . . .

why aren't these special interests exempt from the pains of obama care? shouldn't we also exempt the hardworking families of this country from the pains of obama care? there should be no special treatment for anyone under the law. that is a founding principle for this country, no special treatment for anyone. equal application, equal treatment under the law. delaying the individual mandate

for american families and withdrawing the exemption for members of congress is what this bill is about and it's the right thing to do. now is the time for our president to lead. now is the time for the senate to act. the stubborn refusal to work across the aisle is the reason why americans today are so frustrated by what they see in washington. house republicans have now offered three possible solutions to fund our government and to protect working middle-class families from losing a job, from losing their health care, or losing part of their paycheck due to obama care. and senate democrats have offered nothing. yesterday, mr. speaker, they didn't even show up for work. no one should shut down the government in order to protect

special treatment for members of this house or the other body. no one should shut down this government in order to protect special treatment for big business and special interests. it's time for all of us to think about america's hardworking middle-class families. now is the time to pass this resolution to keep the government working on behalf of the people who sent us here. and i urge my colleagues in the house to support this continuing resolution. and i yield back. >> about 8:35 eastern, the house approved those two changes to the -- to the continuing resolution, again, delaying the individual mandate for a year. and also blocking the subsidies for members of congress and their staff for health care under the law. those went over to the senate where they were quickly dealt

with. they were tabled -- the two amendments were tabled to vote, 54-46. harry reid has put the senate into a period of morning business up until 11:00 eastern and the house is in recess subject to the call of the chair. we are waiting to hear what the next step will be in the house. and here on c-span, opening up your phone lines again to get your thoughts on the debate going on now with less than two hours waiting for midnight eastern for the end of the fiscal year. use 202-585-3885 for democrats. republicans, 202-585-3886. for all others, 202-585-3887. you can comment on facebook. hash tag is cspanchat. this is one of ted cruz's chief strategists, jason johnson who

tweeted he is hearing boehner will offer a clean cr vote. jonathan wisman who writes for "the new york times" tweets apparently the latest white house budget can issue shutdown guidance is 11:30. congress has an hour and a half to get something done. this is dominicomontenero saying christie says he'd solve the problem by not letting anyone leave saying i'm the boss and i'm in charge. and russell berman who covers the hill saying the gop reps boehner allies tom latham and mike simpson say the house will again tonight, but not likely on a clean cr. let's hear from the democrats line. >> hello? >> you're on. >> make sure you mute your television so you don't feed back. and go ahead with your comments?

>> caller: yes, i'm a democrat. i'm very disappointed in all of the democrats. the senate and the house. that they're not willing to pass everything else but the obama or the aca law. that should never have been put in and i think the best way since they can't come to a decision on this, and to me, it's not the law because it was not passed properly. and if anybody's a dictator, it's obama. and if the government shuts down, it's obama and harry reid and all of the democrats who can't seem to pass everything else except for this law. i suggest everybody, republicans and democrats, all get a copy of this law and sit down and read all 2500 pages one by one until they understand it. you can't have 26-year-olds on

the parents' insurance and also be on the exchange. and what if their parents are on medicare. they're not eligible to be on medicare. and where does the internal revenue service have jurisdiction to all of a sudden becoming a health finance organization? there are laws and if it's so great, then i suggest every senator, republican, be on this same law also. >> thank you, go to our republican line. ralph is in yukon, oklahoma. >> caller: yes, i'm in yukon, oklahoma. i firmly believe they ought to stay tight and defund obama. the health bill. and since they already amended that position, they ought to stay with those two amendments, the house, send it back to the

senate, and with the uncomfortable ability of the government shutdown for a few days. >> thanks for the call. they're back to square one. the two latest changes the house made and sent it back to the house. we don't have word yet on the next step. we'll let you know as soon as we find out a couple of tweets. c-spanchat is the hash tag. jeff says partisan legislation will get us into this mess, only bipartisan politics can get us out. democrats must share the blame for a bad law. miles said we need to pay our bills, plain and simple, about a gop shutdown. inglewood, florida, hello? >> caller: yes. hi. >> hi, rain, go ahead. >> caller: i'm 22 and under my

parents' insurance only because of the affordable care act. and all of the people fighting against us and they don't understand our situation. i've done everything i was told as a kid, i went to college. i'm unemployed. this is the only way i could get insurance. i do have a pre-existing condition. i'm thankful this law got passed. i think all of the people should be thrown out. they're doing a terrible job. republicans and democrats. we're supposed to be an example to the world and this is just a sham. thank you. >> one of the elements of the proposal earlier in the house was a delay of the individual mandate for a year. but that failed. the senate blocked that. so that mandate will go into effect. the mandate goes into effect and the individual exchange the health and state exchanges go into effect tomorrow, october 1, the beginning of that part of the law and the beginning of the new fiscal year. baton rouge is next up on the

democrats' line, shanier, welcome? i think we lost him. let's go to patrick in alexandria, virginia. >> caller: i have two quick points. the first is that the idea that the republicans are the ones refusing to compromise is completely backwards. thee are pubs have passed three bills and sent them to the senate. the senate sent it back each time the exact same plan. three plans for republicans, one from democrats. so the idea that the republicans are unwilling to compromise is totally back ward. the second is this line about the republicans need to understand, we've had a national referendum on obama care. 2010 was the referendum on obama care. and republicans retook the house. and if they wanted a completely nationwide referendum on this particular law and only this law, i think they would be really shocked to find out that the american people do not want this. thanks. >> thanks, patrick. we've asked the question, who's

responsible for the current fiscal stalemate in washington. the facebook poll has been up for a day and a half or so. this is how it looks for folks who blame congressional democrats. that's 1,077. 4500, 46 saying the congressional republican's fault and the white house, 1715, that poll is up. facebook.com/c-span. austin, texas, hello to joan on our others line. >> yes. hello. i'm a conservative republican. but i also try to think independently. and from listening to this and watching the news, i agree we should try to defund oh be a ma care. it's causing too many problems for doctors, personal care for people, and i think that shutting down the government seems to be not a total loss because they talk that a lot of things won't be shut down.

i'm sure some people will suffer. but sometimes we have to do the right thing to get the hard thing done. thank you for your time. >> you bet, a bit of news at 10 after 10:00 eastern. this is chad pergram said the house rules committee meeting at 10:30 p.m. eastern on the table is an effort to go to conference committee to create a blend house and senate bills and quit ping-pong. we'll keep you posted on our live coverage. nicholas is in danville, virginia on the democrats line. >> caller: hello, am i on the air? >> you are. >> caller: i've been thinking for the last couple of hours as this is going on. this is going from channel 4 and the different parties involved and i see nothing but a bunch of playing games. but i just want to stress the

fact of the infamous words of john adams for the american public, his infamous speech while congress was debating at the birth of the nation dealing with the constitution of the united states of america. while we debate in office, when are we going to stop debating and continue to point the finger at the republican party versus the democratic party. let's get back to the fundamentals of the constitution for the people, by the people, of the people. we need to put god back at the helm first and foremost. that's number one. get that foundation rebuilt into our constitution and into the oval office, the house of representatives, the house of congress. all of the above and realize that, look, we have put you guys in office. if you aren't going do what we called you to do, what we have sent you there to do, we need to turn around and rise up and

realize, it's time for an appeasement. if you're not going to do what we sent you to do, time for the american people to say enough is enough. >> live pictures here of the capitol and also live look from the north side of the white house this evening. as the house is coming into debate earlier this evening on the two proposed changes which has since passed the house but then blocked in the senate, speaker boehner spoke to president obama for about ten minutes and frank thorp who covers capitol hill for nbc tweeted out a photo. speaker boehner on the phone with president obama earlier tonight. that comes from the spokesman. that's speaker boehner looking down pennsylvania avenue late in the afternoon eastern time. here's kim, lafayette, indiana. she's on the republican line. where hwa do you think where things are headed on capitol hill. >> well, i would like to say i'm a republican but i did vote for obama. i want to put that out there.

i do not, though, however, agree with the obama care plan. it is allowing the insurance companies to be more greedy. those that are employed or having to pay a lot more on our premium this is year upcoming. it's affecting us tremendously, those who are being offered obama care, it's very expensive. instead of being like a huge group plan, they're taking advantage of the american citizens and they're going to tax those who do not have it. i can understand why there is a stand still. i'm disappointed in where all of this is headed. i hate to see the government shut down. but at the same time, i can now see why. >> thanks for that call. chuck on the independence line. go ahead. >> caller: thank you so much for my call. >> you bet.

>> caller: you know, i contribute the problem with who's to blame directly at the president of the united states. she has not shown any leadership. he just continues to say don't blame me. don't blame me. i was appalled watching the committee -- the rules committee people today where nancy pelosi got up during the debate after -- after the rules committee, actually. and said that republicans are dogs. and during the rules committee, they said you have lost your way. you're insane. and those type of name callings are appalling and the democrats need to wise up. i'm an independent. but the democrats have lost their way. thank you so much. >> all right, chuck. i want to give you a tweet here from a colleague who's a producer here at c-span, fred

caplan who's given the word that the cr headed back to the rules committee live here. we'll have it streaming live in c-span.org. the caller mentioned the earlier rules that met to consider the two earlier proposed changes. back at 10:30 eastern. we'll have it live. natalie in owings mills, mm. mm.d. -- maryland. >> caller: i'm a student. it's sad to see our congress people can't get their act together. this reminds me of how everyone procrastinates and tries to get things in at the last moment. you can't do that. they're way it until the last second to compromise. it's immature. they're setting a bad example for the american people. they should work together. how can they expect anything to get done in the future if they can't even get this done now? they're playing the blame game.

they need to stop. they need to sit down, okay, we're all adults here. we can act mature for two seconds and we can get something done. they're not allowing themselves to look past party lines. they may say the other side doesn't want to work with them. they need to sit down and realize they are not working with each other. >> jenny in columbus, ohio, republican line, good evening. >> caller: hello? how are you? >> fine, thank you. >> caller: thank you for taking my call. a concern i have. a friend lived down the street from me, a family of 14. and the mother works herself to death trying to take care of them. what's going to happen to them when they can't afford the obama care or she can't keep all of those children on her insurance until they turn 26? i'm having a difficult time with that one. and mr. obama is a dictator. i don't like him. i didn't vote for him. i say hitler is back and his

name is obama. >> well, here's where -- thank you for your call, jenny. here's where things stand in ten minutes or so. expecting the house rules committee to come back in midnight tonight is when the fiscal year ends. the new budget year starting on tuesday, october 1. this will be the 17th shutdown since 1977, the last one being in 1995, which lasted 21 days. a look at some of the erkt on employees in the government. about 800,000 civilian workers will be furloughed. including national parks, federal museum, overseas offices, regulatory agencies, irs call centers, and the federal grant and contract offices. on twitter, c-span chat is our hash tag and aaron has a lighter look at what might be one of the impacts of 2 shutdown. he said i think in two hours it will be legal to loiter and do skate board tricks in front of cops. wow, c-span chat is our hash tag. douglas in albany, new york.

on our others line. >> caller: how are you? >> fine, thanks, go ahead. >> caller: appreciate it. i want to say first off, i'm 28. i'm register eed independent. voted exclusively democrat the whole time. i think i might have to change. i would like to acknowledge the unions -- the letter from -- the letter saying it's going to hurt our 40 hours a week. the afl-cio conference in l.a. stating it will destroy the 40-hour work week, what they fought for for the last 48 years. >> are you a union member? >> caller: i was, i worked for the state of new york. my family works for many of the unions. we're a union family. we realize it's going to hurt us. and most democrats have been ignoring all of the calls from us. it's kind of sad, it kind of hurts. we supported them. we support them every election

and they turn their back on us. >> go ahead. >> caller: i was going to say i am very upset in the fact that, you know, there's compromise going on here. you know? in a negotiation, there's give and take. you've got to give some, you've got to lose some. and all of the republicans are asking for is to give a delay. and i'm okay with that. let's be honest here? why do they get an exemption, the congress, and the president? and i get the law? if the law was so perfect and this is the law i'm supposed to have for the rest of my life, why don't they get to have it? why isn't it forced upon them? i'd like to figure that out. if it comes out that it's not that bad, you know, in a couple of months or in a year, then i'm okay with it. i want this plan to be good for everyone in america, not just, you know, not just them. they get an exemption but we don't. >> appreciate your call this evening. the associated press is writing about it saying that a

government shutdown could dampen the rollout tuesday, but it won't stop the main components of obama care from going live as the scheduled glitches and all. the biggest expansion of society safety net since medicare. excuse me, ernesto is in los angeles, california on our democrats line. >> good evening, how are you? >> fine, thanks. >> caller: first of all, i would like to bring up a fact that i am actually a product of inner city health disparity and really when it comes to the republicans hijacking government as a means of refraining from funding health care, you're just creating -- congress is just creating and making it worse for people from inner city communities making sure that health care accessibility is

something attainable to them. it shouldn't be something that's left or right. and it should be just. so the republicans have to look at this and really see as to how it will be beneficial not only for the entire country's population as a whole, but from an economic perspective. even what we have and we fund obama care, we're not going to reduce a lot of the health disparities where we're spending so much money, funding health care and making sure that obama care goes through -- would really be beneficial for us as a society in terms of reducing health care disparities and moving toward a better economy. if we have a shutdown, we have to look at the setbacks that would come about from not being able to thoroughly fund the government. >> thanks for the call. here's where things stand on capitol hill. the senate continues in session. senator sessions is speaking on the floor now. the majority leaders of the

senate will stay in morning business, general speeches to 11:00 eastern and they probably are waiting for what's going to happen in the house. the house is in recess right now, subject to the call of the chair. meaning they're waiting for the house rules committee to act. the rules committee is meeting in the next five minutes to take up the consideration of the next piece of legislation, how the house will respond to the senate blocking the two earlier proposed changes. the rules committee meeting will be live here on c-span in a bit. we continue with your calls. to ohio, and heather on the republican line. >> caller: i'm a young military wife. my husband is in the military in kansas. i'm very confused. if they get shut down, is the military going to get stopped from being paid? i'm not quite sure what's going on with that? so i keep hearing --

>> the answer is -- to that is yes, confirmed by the president this evening. but the senate also -- the house passed unanimously legislation that would make sure that military -- active military and active reserve would continue during a shutdown. and that was also approved by the senate today. >> caller: it will not make our pay affected. it sounds conceited. we have a child and a lot of our friends have children. that's the only means the spouse is in the military. >> thanks for calling this evening. that's active duty. that applies to active duty and some active duty reserve. in texas, on the independent line? >> caller: i just wanted to say that it's kind of you can tell

what's going on and looking to see who's been in power in the last 5 1/2 years and we haven't had a single budget yet. i mean, senator reid and president obama have had the opportunity to pass a budget. we haven't had a single budget. we're on a continued resolution from president bush's era of this. health care, the republicans are choosing to make that their signature fight on is ridiculous because you can't fund everybody's medical needs in the country. we just don't have enough money for that. if we don't have enough money, somebody has to decide what gets funded and who doesn't. who is better to do that? the person or the government? it's not the government. >> john, the midnight oil perhaps not the appropriate term, but lights are burning, lights are on at the capitol and

the white house. pete souza is the official white house photographer on twitter. he tweets a moment ago, president obama signs hr-3210, pay our military act tonight in the oval office and includes a photograph of that -- of the president signing that legislation. that's the bill ensuring that the active duty members continue to get paid. in dearborn heights, michigan on the democrats' line? go ahead. >> caller: okay. i just -- it's frustrating to see both sides of this party, both of the parties are the front and the back, they're acting like 2-year-olds. we voted the people in so that they could fix and compromise and get the country back up on its feet. and it's just not happening. the last five years, they haven't -- they haven't agreed on anything. and i just think that we all need to vote them all out and get new ones in.

because they're just not doing the job. thank you. >> dan, hello. on the independent line in west virginia, charlestown. >> caller: how are you doing tonight? >> fine, thanks. >> caller: i'm not republican or democrat. i'm an american. i believe there's a difference. i served country for 13 years, i continue to to do so. i have two tours in iraq and two in afghanistan, to see this nonsense carried on under the reign of obama for the past six years or so, it just really -- it's heart breaking and it's frustrating. you know? i have a wife who's a federal employee and myself being the military, i'm a federal employee as well. there are things that need to happen, there are things that need to change in this country and a lot of it comes down to the terms of how long the president can serve and the congress and the house should be

limited. they shouldn't be able to make a career out of this. that's not what it was intended for. decades, centuries ago, they came in do justice for our country and not just to make money and get their own health care. they're overpaid. they don't do what they're supposed to do, that needs to change. that needs to be limited to six years. you're done, you're out, you go back to the workforce. make this happen, make this country what it used to be, you know. but continue to fight, fight for this country and fight for our freedoms and rights every day. it's frustrating to this point like other callers have already said, protest capitol hill, get the clowns out of office. put people in there that are going to do what they're going to do. if they're not doing what you need to do, get out. we're going get somebody else in there. voted in, do a job. you're refusing to do it. back and forth, not coming to an

agreement over something whether or not the government gets funded each fiscal year, it's absurd, it's ridiculous. something needed to happen. you know, the medical people as a fwheeld to come together. protest medical hill, take this country back and make it what it used to be. that's what i wanted so say, thank you. >> we're expecting the house to gavel in shortly to consider the next move in terms of the response to the senate which blocked the two amendments that have been proposed by the house earlier. a couple of the reports earlier from capitol hill. peter gasparo who covers the hill for the hill, he writes that the house will seek a conference with the senate on the cr, some details here. house republican leaders will seek a conference committee with senate democrats in a last-ditch effort to find a compromise on short-term spending bill on gop-aid confirmed tonight. also on that, the offer to go to conference will b