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barricades. republicans and democrats in the house found common ground and passed legislation to solve these problems. we urge the senate democrats to do their part. these proposals offer common ground. let's build on it. and with regard to the closure of the world war ii memorial, may i offer a remindser that the beaches of normandy were closed too. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from the virgin islands seek recognition? mrs. christensen: unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentlelady is recognized for one minute. mrs. christensen: thank you, mr. speaker. yesterday i spoke about the damage to the st. john economy because the national park is closed. like everyone's district, republican and democrat, the damage is growing exponentially with every day this continues. by not putting a clean c.r. to a vote, the house leadership is preventing pregnant women and babies from getting important nutrition support. the gentleman who called me on a radio program on use it can't get help us from -- tuesday can't get help from us with the s.b.a. loan offices.
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put off. alls will be my community's already in economic distress and she this shutdown is making it worse. i'm proud to have one of the best national guard units in the country. i'm a member of the american legion auxiliary and an avid supporter of n.i.h. but the bills being passed here only pretend to help these entities while imposing damaging cuts. the a.c.a. is law, get over it, let's stop this divide and conquer piecemeal approach. let's vote on a clean mother to reopen the offices of the federal government, to ensure federal workers can pay their bills and let's make sure the federal government will pay its debts, too. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from louisiana seek recognition. >> i have good news for my fellow colleagues from the democratic side of the aisle. we can reopen the government. let's make clear what the house has done. we have sent a continuing resolution to the senate, which funds the government. and it has two amendments which are found so objectionable.
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it does away with a special sweetheart deal, the president created, that only benefits senators and congressmen and congresswomen, and for those folks who are getting their insurance from their employer, the president postponed the mandate on their employer so we postponed the mandate on the employee. mr. cassidy: that's all we have that's all we have to do. if you speak about people going hungry, keep in mind, it's only your affection for the special deal that keeps them from being fed. if you care about those people, you'd give up those special deal. it may be that senator reid loves it he can't do something about it. best, let's negotiate it. the constitution says if the two chambers disagree, you go to conference committee. at the end of the day, if you give up your special deal, people are fed. why do you want the special deal so much? thank you. the speaker pro tempore: members are reminded to direct their remarks to the chair.
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for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today in honor of the late bubba kennedy who was a deputy sheriff who was killed last night out in west texas, mr. vela: he was killed in the line of duty at only 38 years old. a graduate -- mr. gallego: he was working at the sheriff's department when i met him. before joining the upton county sheriff's department in november of 2012. he's remembered by his friends and his colleagues and his family. deputy kennedy's name will be added to the law enforcement officer's memorial next year. it's the only memorial in washington, d.c., that will never be finished. he leaves behind a beloved wife, jody, two sons, blaine and blake, who are 10 and 15
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years old, and his parents, billy frank and della kennedy. i'm honored to have had the opportunity, mr. speaker, to recognize the deputy sheriff that i know and knew and respected. his devotion to his community and his family has truly impacted the lives of many and will continue to do so even after his passing. the small community in west texas where everybody knows loss is truly, truly, deeply felt. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman rise? >> to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> i want to read a couple of letters that have come into my office about the new health care law. i'm a senior citizen working part time. i can no longer see my doctor of 14 years. i know of our people getting their hours cut and not being
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able to find a job and they don't know what their health care will be. the next one, we have 24 employees and have been in business since 1982. we current he pay 100% of the premium for health insurance for our employees. after discussing this, we've determined when obamacare is put in place we'll no longer be able to provide health insurance. mr. rice: the next one, higher premiums, higher deductibles, less coverage. next, i've been paying health insurance to blue cross blue shield years now. they said i'm losing coverage to the obama health care laws. i thought he said that no one had to change health insurance companies. ext one, my insurance is -- my business is dropping my insurance. small business owner like me is up a creek. that's not exactly what he said. thank you, sir. i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does --
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members are reminded to refrain from engaging in personalities toward the president. for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia seek recognition? mr. moran: to address the house for one minute, i seek unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. moran: mr. speaker, the public has been witnessed to extraordinary divisiveness between the republicans and democrats in this house. but i think it's important that the important bear in mind that we have a law that was passed, passed substantially in the house and the senate. granted, primarily by democrats, of course, but it was signed by the president. and then we had a presidential election. a major issue was the affordable care act. that's why it was called obamacare. and president obama won by five million votes, mr. speaker. w, mr. speaker, the issue is funding the federal government.
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virtually all of the democrats voted to fund the government. virtually all the other side, mr. speaker, voted not to. so now with the republican majority to come up and try to open up different agencies, suggesting that we don't want to do that, they're the ones that closed them, mr. president. we're the ones that voted to keep them open. what we want to do is to open up the government. and if we do it in bits and pieces, we create more dissension within the federal work force. we shouldn't do that. the american public deserves better. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. are there further requests for one-minute speeches? hearing none, under the speaker's announced policy of january 3, 2013, the gentleman from ohio, mr. ryan, is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader. mr. ryan: thank you, mr. speaker. i appreciate the opportunity to be here to do a special order. we are here and i'm here as
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co-chair of the house manufacturing caucus to celebrate and recognize national manufacturing day. we know there are a lot of divisive issues being talked about here in the nation's capital, but i think one issue, as we start to lay some groundwork for what the world looks like after we shake this virus that's happening here in washington, d.c., i think manufacturing, advanced manufacturing, additive manufacturing, three-dimensional printing and all the issues that surround rebuilding the united states of america, can happen and we have an obligation, i think, as we have arguments about the issues of the day also to lay that long-term investment in strategies that will help our country grow. and we have a group of men and women, members of congress here this evening that would like to speak on that, and i'd like to work quickly through that list. and first would like to bring
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the gentleman from massachusetts up, congressman kennedy, coming from new england and coming from massachusetts, obviously a huge manufacturing state with a long history of manufacturing beginning with the early stages of our country. so i yield as much time as he may consume to congressman kennedy. mr. kennedy: thank you, mr. speaker. and to my colleague, mr. ryan, the chairman of the house manufacturing caucus, i want to thank you for organizing this and your leadership on this issue. on october 1, just two days ago, the institute for supply management reported manufacturing index rose in september for the fourth straight month to 56.2. any reading above 50 indicates growth. and it's the highest level we've seen since april of 2011. now, a couple important statistics about manufacturing -- in 2011, manufacturing contributed over $1.8 trillion to the nation's economy and
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accounted for 47% of all u.s. exports. for every $1 that we spend in manufacturing, another $1.48 is added to the economy. the highest multiplier effect of any economic sector. of 9% of the work force, more than 11 million americans are employed in manufacturing. in 2/3 of the private sector investment in research and development occur in the manufacturing sector. the value and potential for future growth in manufacturing in massachusetts is a perfect example. the industry continues to be a critical segment of our economy. yes, in the downturn, we are hurt, but what's remarkable is the persistence and ingenuity of the manufacturing industry statewide continues to rank above the national average in terms of the concentration of manufacturing employment. after years of decline, 2011, the total number of manufacturing firms actually increased. this means that companies, like -- and industries like aerospace, electronics, computers, pharmaceuticals, they're successful to
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massachusetts' economy. that's why i believe that it promises future growth and essential to the public-private partnerships that will innovate and bring new products to market. it's why i'm proud to have written and introduced the american manufacturing and innovation act along with my republican cleeg, tom reed of new york, the fellow co-chair with you, mr. chairman. the bill is designed to bring industry, universities and community colleges, federal agencies, state and local governments all under one roof to accelerate manufacturing and innovation. it will help bridge the gap between basic research and development, commercialization of novel technology. it will serve as a regional hub and provide access to cutting edge capabilities and equipment, creating unparalleled environment to educate and train the next generation of work force. as we've seen, mr. chairman,
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you see the model there in your hometown in youngstown, ohio, an area you represent. the great advances we've seen in additive manufacturing and 3-d printing, this addresses the disconnect. we've seen that in communities like taunton and fall river and ater borrow where -- atterboro where manufacturing is key to the future. it's why i support this industry, i support this bill and i appreciate you letting me speak. mr. ryan: i thank the gentleman. i'd like to thank him for the leadership on that particular bill. we have the national additive manufacturing institute in downtown youngstown, ohio, and we're starting to see how that public-private partnership is beginning to light up not only downtown youngstown but the entire tech belt region from cleveland to akron to youngstown down to pittsburgh.
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multiple companies involved in that, we just had -- we just had seemsens corms donate over -- siemons corporation donate over $4 million in software to youngstown state university as we begin to create that pipeline for people to go into this new and what will be a transformational industry. the next speaker is the gentleman from delaware, also a state that is crucial to our defense industrial base and our manufacturing base here in the united states, i yield to congressman carney. mr. carnahan: -- mr. carney: thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today in the midst of this manufactured crisis here in the capital to join many of my colleagues on the democratic side for something that we all can get behind which is creating strong manufacturing jobs here in our great country. one of the frustrations about the impasse that we have here in the house and in the capitol
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is that we have serious issues that confront us as a country, and i think the most important among them is where are the jobs of the future going to come from? we know in our districts, mr. ryan and some of the other speakers tonight, my state of delaware, that manufacturing has been the backbone, particularly of those jobs that provide middle-class incomes for generation, and we've lost so many of them. since 2008, my home state, we've lost both of our auto manufacturing plants, the general motors plant at boxwood road and the chrysler plant in newark. we've lost avon products, a manufacturing facility in ewark, and down in the town of seifert, the dupont plant provided jobs. we know the competition for those jobs today and in the
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future going are -- are going to define the success to maintain the middle class here in the united states and also define the competition that we have with our neighbors around the world. there's some hope on the horizon. in recent years, we've seen a new trend called insourcing. we're actually seeing companies moving back jobs here in the united states. general electric, one of the premiere manufacturing industrial conglomerates, international companies here in the u.s., has started to move appliance manufacturing to the states of indiana and ohio and other places in the midwest from their plants that they moved some years ago to mexico. . apple will start manufacturing a new laptop here in the united states. but here's the thing. not only do we have to attract and bring jobs back to the united states, but once we get them back here through this
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insourcing trend, we need to make sure we keep them here. making things here at home, whether building new cars, cars of the future, whether building the appliances or electronics we are talking about, help build the strong economic foundation we have enjoyed as a country and will do so in future generations. it's our job as members of congress to pass laws that will encourage innovation and job creation right here at home and put hardworking americans back to work. that's why i have worked with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to come up with ways to attract and keep manufacturing jobs here. this summer, i joined my colleague from pennsylvania, mr. fitzpatrick, to introduce the made in america act. it's really a simple bill. it creates a labeling system called the american star labels much like energy star, that companies can use to identify
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products made in america. i had to go shopping for an air conditioner and it was difficult to determine what products were made here and what kind of parts were made here. last year i bought a new front oak door and i spent a lot of time trying to find a door that was made here in the u.s. and found a wonderful product made just over the line in pennsylvania. made in america is something that people want to see and they want to know what the products that they buy, what they see out there in stores, how much is foreign made and how much is made here in the u.s.a., and people, consumers care about it. and that's why this job is important -- that's why this piece of legislation is important because it provides people with that opportunity. i also got together with mr. honda from california, who is here in the chamber, with the scaling-up manufacturing act.
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i'm sure he will talk about it. 25% tax credit for the cost of construction for the company's first manufacturing facility. thank you for the opportunity to do that. i introduced a bill to increase the research and development tax credit from 14% to 17% and to make it more importantly, to make it permanent, to create certainty for businesses to locate their research and development facilities here in this country. this will give those companies that certainty that they need to set up those operations. these are just a few examples, mr. speaker, mr. chairman, of the ways that congress can do something to make it possible for us to make things here in america again. we all believe, many of us here, frankly on both sides of the aisle, believe that making things in america is the key to our economic recovery. house in get our
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order here with the impasse we are dealing with over the last week and focus on these efforts, focus on the things that we can do to incentivize u.s. manufacturing. thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. mr. ryan: i thank the gentleman from delaware who obviously gets it and is involved in a lot of the initiatives that we are beginning to push here in a bipartisan way. i hope when we get through the next few weeks in this tough time that we are having here, that we can begin to push some of these initiatives. our next speaker is the gentlelady from connecticut, another new england state that is deeply, deeply engaged in manufacturing in the united tates, from very, very early on. a key component to our defense industrial base, whether it's any branch, quite frankly of the military, especially the navy and the technologies that spin out of a lot of the public investments that we make.
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and when we talk public-private investments, connecticut is the kind of state that if we make these investments benefits a great deal and has a very skilled work force and well educated work force and great manufacturing work force. with that, i yield to the gentlelady from connecticut. ms. esty: i thank you for your leadership, mr. ryan, and your bipartisan co-chair of the manufacturing caucus for all you have been doing in this congress and others to promote manufacturing. today we celebrate the rebirth of manufacturing in connecticut and across america. my state is home to close to 5,000 manufacturing companies employing nearly 168,000 men and women. our state has a long tradition of manufacturing dating back to eli whitney and the cotton begin and i'm proud to see -- gin and i'm proud to see it carrying on.
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tomorrow is the second annual national manufacturing day and in connecticut, we are sell baiting manufacturing through what we call it the dream it, do it initiative. they will be focusing on the important taps of manufacturing. hundreds of middle-school students will participate in a program to learn how connecticut-made products impact their lives. throughout the month, manufacturers and manufacturing facilities will be giving tours and technical colleges and high schools will be hosting open houses to show young people and their parents how rewarding a career in manufacturing can be. i have been meeting with manufacturers from across my district and i have seen firsthand the innovative work that they are doing. in new britain, family-owned peter paul electronics has been creating good jobs for three
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generations. they strive every day to hire new employees. labs, leonard and jonel employees and managers are working together to seek ways to manufacture quality products for customers across connecticut, across the country and across the world. and i'm proud of the dedicated men and women of manufacturing. and i want to make sure that they continue to succeed for generations to come. i also know firsthand how important manufacturing is because i come from a family of manufacturers. my grandfather started a small manufacturing company 61 years ago that i'm proud to say is still in business today. and i know from that experience and from companies all across connecticut, the importance of providing a supportive environment for manufacturing to grow and thrive and ensure that we have our building jobs right here in america.
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that is why i'm introducing two bills, the first step act and the stem jobs act, that help students, employees and small businesses succeed by ensuring that our students have the skills for the future. it's a need i have heard time and time again from manufacturers in my district. we have to ensure that the next generation have the skills to be competitive in a global economy where manufacturing jobs pay those high wages that we need to rebuild the middle class here in america. and i know that there is a lot of bipartisan support in this chamber for our efforts to promote american manufacturing, innovation and competitiveness. many of us on both sides of the aisle are committed to working together on this and many other issues to help the american people. the time has come for us to pass
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some real jobs bills. for manufacturers, for workers and for families across my district and across this country. thank you. and i yield back my time. mr. ryan: i thank the gentlelady for her good work and good words. our next speaker is from the great state of california, which obviously has one of the most diverse economies, but many people think california and they don't necessarily think manufacturing and the leadership that the gentleman has been providing here, a number of issues, a number of bills sponsored and pushed throughout his career here and we are going to learn more about what's going on in california. and i yield to mr. honda, the gentleman from california. mr. honda: i thank my friend for leading this group and also providing the rest of the country, the understanding of the idea that there's work being done here. there are creative minds in congress that are looking at the
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issue of manufacturing and creating jobs. i dare say the word manufacturing for many people in this country conjures up the old-fashioned traditional kinds of work, but today, we have heard nothing but the upgraded, the high tech, the kind of manufacturing that requires many, many other states to cooperate with each other in order for something to happen. so the american manufacturing renaissance is essential for a full and sustainable economic recovery and national manufacturing day is to highlight manufacturing's importance. manufacturing can generate 70% of exports in both advanced and emerging manufacturing and up to 90% of business and research and development spending.
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just in my home state of california, there are over 40,000 manufacturers that account for over 1.2 million jobs and $230 billion of output. small supplying contract anufacturers like calbo in fre mo nmp t, california, but i think our calendar is going to delay my visit, they play a key role in the worldwide supply system and the term, supply chain is a concept that's not well understood, nor well discussed for the supply chain is necessary for any manufacturer to be able to produce their products. these manufacturing jobs are high paying and they are job multipliers. a term that's been used previously. high paying and they are job multipliers. ch manufacturing job creates 47 non-manufacturing jobs in
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areas like customer service and transportation, and other service-oriented sectors. manufacturing outputs is almost 12% of our gross state product in california. and accounts for 87% of our exports. so manufacturing has and continues to be the platform for building a solid middle class all across this country, the united states and abroad. for these reasons and others, i remind my colleagues today that we have work -- we have plenty of work to do to provide appropriate funding for innovation, appropriate funding for research and development, to rebuild and educate a skilled manufacturing work force and to provide targeted tax incentives to protect and reshore the manufacturing supply chain. the term reshore, bringing back the manufacturing supply chain that has been decimated over the 30-year period of outsourcing.
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we can and must rebuild manufacturing, capacity and leadership in the united states. for those reasons i'm proud to be part of this manufacturing caucus and we shall work together to knit together all of our ideas in our bills to make sure we have a network of supply chains and manufacturers that will provide all the jobts we need to build a stronger middle class. thank you, and i yield back. mr. ryan: the point of the supply chain i think is essential to recognize it's not just the general motors plant but all the tier one, tier two, tier three suppliers right down the line that are making component parts and providing good manufacturing jobs for americans and those jobs as has been stated here several times, pay a lot more and the average work drk manufacturing worker makes $77,000 and the national
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is $66,000. more patents coming off the floor of manufacturing. that happens in the supply chains, the companies that are involved in the supply chains and also the big manufacturers that we often think of. one statistic i would like to make, too, before i introduce the gentleman from rhode island, is we think of big companies like boeing and facebook. and facebook, which has a lot of prominence today, facebook -- they both have market values over $50 billion. facebook employs about 5,000 workers. boeing employs about 170,000 workers, because you need the manpower, the womanpower in these facilities to make this happen. i would like to yield to my friend, a strong advocate for working-class people on the
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house budget committee and always fun to be on that committee with him. i yield to my friend, the gentleman from rhode island. mr. cicilline: i thank the gentleman from from ohio for yielding and your powerful leadership in the manufacturing caucus here in the house. tomorrow, october 4, we celebrate national manufacturing day, which is an opportunity to underscore and reaffirm our commitment to manufacturing and to remember that manufacturing helped build this country. it made this country a great and powerful nation. it helped build a thriving middle class and created good aying jobs for hardworking americans. my state is the birth place of the american industrial revolution and has an important history in american manufacturing more than anyplace in the country. but rhode island really understands the importance of a strong manufacturing sector and if we want to get our economy
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back on the right track, it's critical we start making things here again in this country and to put those companies that are already manufacturing things in america. so i'm proud to stand with my colleagues today as we salute american manufacturing and to underscore our commitment to helping rebuild and strengthen manufacturing in this country and pay attention to the house democratic make it in america agenda, which is a comprehensive set of bills that will reinvigorate american manufacturing and put folks back to work in my home state of rhode island and all across this country. . . increase their exports, but really help to jump-start what 're already seeing in this manufacturing renaissance. as you know very well, market conditions are such that wages are starting to rise in asia,
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energy costs remain high so the cost of transporting goods is expensive so this is a real opportunity, a real moment to seize and if we change some poss cishere in washington -- policies here in washington and replace it with policies that support american manufacturing, we have a tremendous opportunity for additional job growth. earlier this week we saw even more evidence that our manufacturing sector is growing stronger again. the september report, the institute for supply management, found that manufacturing was growing at its fastest pace in almost 2 1/2 years. and as has been said, and we know manufacturing is a jobs multiplier, for every manufacturing job we create it creates 4.6 jobs being created to support it. with high-tech manufacturing, it adds an additional 16 jobs. this is very, very important in our ongoing effort to grow the economy and create jobs. i think it particularly is in important to make note in the area of manufacturing, we need
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to be very focused on job training. to be sure our young people are prepared to compete with the kinds of jobs becoming available in advanced manufacturing. i visit manufacturers in my district all the time and hear from them the importance of skills development and job training for the new workers in the manufacturing sector in the 21st century. it's not the case any more that you can walk down to your neighborhood manufacture and get the job your father or grandfather or mother or grandmother got. it requires a different set of skills and requires additional training. so as part of our strategy we have to really focus on how do we ensure that young people and people entering the manufacturing sector have the skills necessary to compete successfully. mr. ryan: and that's a critical point. we have legislative fixes and we have strategies down here, but much of this is cultural. as you said, these facilities are not your grandparents' manufacturing facilities.
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in youngstown and akron we grew up hearing that long legacy of the steel mills blowing out soot. you got to sweep your porch off two or three times during the course of the day because of the soot that's coming out and the mill was running. people said that means we're working. it's gold dust really. today it's much different. you can eat your breakfast off the floor in some of these facilities. and so how do we break with guidance counselors and my estimation robotics in the schools, legos in the early schools, you know, begin this pipeline to get people excited about using their hands and making things again? and not everyone is going to go to college and get a four-year degree. mr. cicilline: i think you raise a very important point. one of the things we've seen, unfortunately, the way that we have approached manufacturing in this country the last couple decades where we've actually sent messages to young people
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that they should think of something other than manufacturing. that it's a dead-end career. manufacturing doesn't exist here any more. we will be a service economy. you hear it in the language that guidance counselors and sometimes parents -- i would say kids came home and said, mom, dad, i want to be a manufacture, many parents would say, really? that's not -- that doesn't have a bright future. i think what we have to really do is support those in career technical academies, manufacturing tracks, be sure that people see this as a career path to remind people that manufacturing jobs pay on average above nonmanufacturing jobs. so these are good-paying jobs, and it requires a different skillset today, a more advanced skillset. if you look at what's happening particularly with innovation and design and 3-d printing and all the intersections of making things with this new technology, it's a career path that has tremendous opportunity. but i agree with you very much that, you know, we have to stop saying to young people, you're only a success if you go to college.
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when i was mayor of providence, i used to visit schools all the time and hear principals or teachers say, everyone is going to go to college, right, and encourage everyone to raise their hands. and you have to say, if you want to go to college, great. but you can have a fulfilling, successful life you can support your family in our careers like advanced manufacturing and recognize that's a valuable, important, valued part of our economy. and i think a lot of language around that and a lot of support so that people see that as a career path. mr. ryan: i think a lot of the jobs people have today, you know, you're tied to a 6:00, ry after 5:00 or iphones on the weekend. after these good-paying jobs, you go home and get the grill going. you go to the -- your kid's
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little league game, go watch the browns. patriots or whoever you're rooting for. -- time time to have to do other things that are important. i remember looking back at the hay day in youngstown, in niles where i grew up, my grandfather was well paid in the steel mill and at 3:00 he was done. he would go to his garden. would go make dinner. have a happy hour where the family was together and have that quality of life. if we look at manufacturing and say, hey, it's clean, new skill set, it's exciting. there's a lot of hot things going on in manufacturing today. you can work in a team. you're creating new products in all different sectors of the economy. and you have a life outside of your work that is important for your family, your children and your kids and everything else. mr. cicilline: and you're making things that are sought by the rest of the world.
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i think one of the things we should never lose sight of is those words, made in america, still mean a lot although people understand that when a product is made in america it's made by the best trained workers in the world and has the best quality standards in the world and so people all over the world want to buy stuff made in america. so i think given the opportunity to do that and certainly i think all americans want to do that so given that opportunity we will see tremendous growth in our manufacturing sector. but i think it's very important that in this moment that we understand the significance of changing some of the policies in washington that undermine american manufacturing. i want to take a minute to applaud the president who has really made the rebirth of american manufacturing an important priority. he talks about a lot in his state of the union, i know, address to the country and he established recently this investing in manufacturing communities partnership, a program really to help
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strengthen manufacturing to help states develop, you know, regional manufacturing strategies. i am particularly proud that rhode island received one of the first grants in the first phase of this program that will really allow us to develop a strategy that will help to support and strengthen rhode island manufacturing and obviously recognize what that will mean for job growth. it's been very, i think, very valuable to have the president take a leadership role and continue to make the case that manufacturing and making things and rebuilding american manufacturing is a key part of our economic recovery. it's one of those issues where one would hope that there's bipartisan support. you have been a great leader of the manufacturing policy with the bipartisan leadership there. you look at the make it in america agenda and you think, why haven't every single bill on that agenda already become law? i mean, these are good, commonsense bills that support american manufacturing which is so critical to our country. and, you know, we're in a
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difficult period where there's not a lot of bipartisan support, but i'd love to hear the gentleman's thoughts on this because it seems so critical. mr. ryan: i agree. the issue really is we need to get on the stick because china, european union, many other countries are pumping a good deal of money into 3-d printing. we have one setup. now, the president wants to do additional seven to 10 or 20, maybe 30 additional centers where you have these public-private partnerships, where you're innovating in areas of the economy, we have one of the first additive manufacturing. you have one of the first grants to develop in rhode island. the chinese are dumping tons of money in the 3-d printing. they are going to have 10 innovation centers in china. so i mean, they're full speed ahead. and this is an area that we want to win. we want to make sure that we are on the cutting edge. not just because we're americans, but because our
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success is the world's success. you know, i think making these investments is critical. there really isn't that much money in the grand scheme of things, putting hundreds of millions of dollars into these critical areas of the economy -- you look at three-dimensional printing, for people who may not know, it's a printer in essence, like the printer you would have on your desk except you pump materials into the printer and they can print your iphone. you can print a shoe. they have youtube shoes of houses being printed one day. it's just amazing how this is going to revolutionize manufacturing and bring -- we used to have the big mainframe computers that became desk tops so we have manufacturing today that builds rooms that could also be shrunk in parts. it has a transformational effect to have a desk top
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manufacturing unit that every american could utilize. and the kind of innovation that's going to come from this, the kind of decentralization, streamlining fisheses in the supply thing, -- efficiencies in the supply chain, look at what the internet has done for wealth creation. this is the kind of wealth creation that hits people in rhode island, in youngstown and akron, ohio. it's not just silicon valley at benefit, manufactured somewhere else. this i think could be very revolutionary in that regard. so we have an obligation here seeing the tea leaves, reading the tea leaves, we have to make those investments. mr. cicilline: absolutely. you know, i think first and foremost, i want to congratulate you again because you have led the country in the manufacturing center being the very first one. i'm hoping we are going to take a group from rhode island soon to visit so we can see the success of what you've done and
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the kind of model it can provide for the whole country. i think you're absolutely right. 3-d printing is the way we transform things how we make things in this country. we have great partners in rhode island, the rhode island school of design, where i think we're really going to begin to understand that design is going to be an important part of this new manufacturing and it's going to make really everyone in manufacturing to have the ability to print products. so you're right, our competitors around the world know this and they're making very substantial investments. i think this is one of the moments in the history of our country that we have to realize if we're going to continue to lead the world economically and continue to be a place that products are produced that are the envy of the world, we have to create countries that will help companies and individuals innovate, to be successful in making things so that we can start shipping american-made goods all over the world and not american jobs. one thing to look at it is how
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do we support american manufacturing in tax policies so we're not incentivizing companies that ship overseas and instead incentivizing companies that keep jobs here? how do we have tax credits that are nor generous and important that it will plan for investments to make more jobs? you go to a manufacture in your district and you're awed by the entrepreneurship and the commitment and the dedication of the workers there and the quality of the products they're prow deucing and all -- products and all they're asking is give them the set of tools to level the playing field so they can sell for the rest of the world and that should be a bipartisan effort, making things in america should be something we all agree on. and i hope that we'll enjoy a lot of bipartisan support in making that a reality. mr. ryan: and takes some public investments and that's what i worry about and i talked to our republican colleagues about. my concern is this national
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narrative is there isn't anything that the government could spend money on that could be a good thing. it's all bad. any spending is all. so that is a bad narrative to operate from when you're trying to say, hey, here's the public-private partnerships that we want to see, as i said, in my opening, so the public-private partnership with the institute, public-private partnership. a lot of companies, defense companies, companies like siemens, so here's the investment in youngstown. now, there's the building that was refurbished that was an old warehouse, that's great, in downtown and there are other businesses looking to relocate. they call and they say we want to be around the innovation happening there. for an older industrial area, fantastic for us to have that opportunity. then, siemens comes in and iemens donates $ 440 million worth of software to youngstown state university to create that
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pipeline, and the goal really is you can see how that little public investment is driving all of the private investment that's not just going to help our region, the tech belt from cleveland to pittsburgh to akron and youngstown but go to the entire country, everyone can benefit from this so you begin to see the pipeline you can create and as you say, get on a track in manufacturing when you're in high school so at 18 you're not wandering around, you know, what car can i go buy and get myself in debt or go to college for one year and accumulate debt and drop out because it's not just thing, we want kids to graduate from high school with the skills to be able to go out in the world and earn if they don't want to go to college. these kids are amazing and will learn it like that and will take public investment. mr. cicilline: in my state, in
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the city of woonsocket, pawtucket, central falls, building were filled with good -paying jobs and we have to make adjustments of what the demands are in the marketplace, what are the skills that workers need and incentives we need to create that those building jobs compete in the 21st september try. it will be thoughtful, careful relationships. but a real public investment that will bring tremendous benefit not only to my state and our country and i worry that there is a group of folks here in the congress who believe we can't invest in anything that's important for our future. as you mentioned, our competitors are doing it at a much faster pace. if we are going to be successful, we need to seize on this moment and build on the
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rich and manufacturing history of our country and i think we will see tremendous opportunities in my state and ohio and all across this country and i yield back. mr. ryan: i appreciate the gentleman for being here. states being represented like rhode island, connecticut, massachusetts, california, ohio and michigan and indiana and wisconsin and all through new england and maine and new hampshire, we are a manufacturing country. we always have been. i thank the gentleman. can i ask, mr. speaker, how much time we have remaining? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has 19 minutes remaining. mr. ryan: i would like to make a few comments slightly off topic celebrating the manufacturing day, recognition day for tomorrow, and just explain to my constituents at home in a couple of minutes, because i don't want to take the entire time, explain to my constituents at home, my feelings and how i think things
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are playing out here in washington and i haven't had an opportunity to be home and want to communicate to them. my position here, obvious is we need to get the government up and running. and we have the national discussion going on about the health care, the affordable care act. i voted for the affordable care act, support the affordable care act. we are going to have gliches as it rolls out, but few years ago, as we were getting into the 1,700, i had 1,000 700 -- families lose their insurance. it has been an ugly process in communities like ours of people losing their jobs and not having health insurance. 40, 45, 50, 55 years old.
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can't qualify for medicare. that was a problem. health costses -- costs going up. we have a smaller group in the republican caucus of tea party members who are hell bent on killing the affordable care act. it. ismantling they have every right as an american citizen and member of the united states congress to have that opinion and to fight for that. here's where i think there's a problem. we have an obligation here in this chamber to make sure that the government runs, runs smoothly, gets funded. we are going to have our arguments as to where the investmentsr what the tax code looks like, these are all fights we have in this chamber. i'm not here to say that democracy is pretty. it's ugly. it's messy. there's a house of 435 members. a senate of 100 members, a
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president. an executive branch. this is an ugly process. it is inherptly ugly. as churchill said, it's the worst form of government on the planet except for all the others. we have an obligation to keep the government running. and so my argument, my complaint with what the tea party members are doing by saying, well, we'll extend what we call a continuing resolution, funding of the government, we'll agree to extend it for six more weeks if you defund obamacare or if you delay obamacare. now as i said, they have every right to make that argument, and they have every right to have that belief. bru a couple of points. -- but a couple of points. we fund the government and then through the normal process of governing, committee process, the struggle between the house and the senate, the republican
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house and democratic senate and democratic president, we have that fight through the normal budgetary process. you do not shut down the government because you don't like a piece of legislation that passed the house, passed the senate and signed into law by the president and the supreme court deemed it constitutional. you do not shut the government down because of that. you continue the government operating and then you have this other fight. and guess what? maybe you won't win the fight. was here in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, the iraq war was going on. i was against the iraq war. had no interest of us going to iraq. campaigned against it in my first election. but we through the political process fought it and we tried to end it.
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and then eventually in 2006, democrats won the house, won the senate. we began the process of trying to continue to end the war in iraq. we didn't do a very good job of it, because president bush was still in office. but president bush had just won re-election in 2004, but we continued the fight. and my friends say the affordable care act is not affordable and not popular. guess what? the iraq war was not affordable. the iraq war was not popular. well over 50% of americans did not want us to be there at one point, but you just don't shut down the government because a policy has shifted or the mood of the country has shifted. u have to work through the political process. let's have that fight. if i was the tea party, i would say this obamacare is so bad, set it up and let it go.
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wait until the american people see this. we are going to sweep them in 2014 and win the presidency back in 2016. if it's so bad, let it go, you could get the house back, win the presidency, start back over. we go back to that old system where people go bankrupt with their current health care plan or getting kicked off or not getting coverage for pre-existing conditions. you have every right to do that. so let's get back to regular order. if speaker boehner brought a bill to the house floor today, right now, called all members and said we are having a clean c.r. and we are going to extend funding from current levels out for six weeks or eight weeks, whatever the number would be, and he brought it to the floor, it would pass. democrats and republicans. senate would send their bill over. the president would sign it.
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the government would open back up and go back to having our fights about the affordable care act. and the tea party folks could talk about how bad it is and we will have examples of people who benefited and we'll move on. now, the other problem i have is that we have already had this political fight. doesn't stop us from having it again. some political fights take some time. we just had this fight. our friends on the other side call this obamacare and president obama just won re-election. clean sweep across the country. more democrats in the senate, in states like indiana, brown won re-election in ohio, president obama won ohio and a bunch of other key swing states when the central issue was repeal obamacare. o that battle was just fought.
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and to shut down the government in this process, i think is improper. and here we have, now all these other issues with the debt ceiling coming up and all these other things. let's have the fight. win the political argument. win the political battle. take it back to the people in 2014 and 2016. if that's ultimately what you want to do. and as i said, you have every right to do that. this is a democracy. a political system will allow for it. i just want my constituents to know, you know, i don't think we should get into the position of necessarily picking what parts of the government should open or not open. open it up. and the other point is, the democrats, with the number we want to open it up at, we wanted a much higher number. there has been too many cuts in our estimation for these programs for the long-term
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investment in our country. we already compromised, because our number was $1 trillion and the republican number was $986 billion and we said, the president said we'll take that number. so we already compromised. you want to go out and buy a car and someone makes an offer for $10,000 and you say no, i'll give you $9,000 and they say we'll take it for $9,000, that is a compromise. that's what happened here. but still to be clear to my constituents, every bill that has come off this floor didn't just say we are going to extend funding for the government, it said we are going to extend funding for the government and repeal the affordable care act, we want to delay the affordable care act. that is an issue that has been argued. we can continue to do it, but let's do it through the normal
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political process. let's get n.i.h. up and running, centers for disease control, all of these can be funded with a total package if speaker boehner brought to the floor, a clean continuing resolution that funded the government without any of this extraneous stuff, it would pass with democrats and republicans. the senate would agree to it and the president would sign it and the doors would open back up. so lastly, let me say, because my friends have come up on the other side and say we want to fund n.i.h. because there are pediatric patients there that need help. and i say, of course we want to do that, but we want every family in america to have insurance if their child gets cancer. we want every citizen to have access and the affordable care
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act has done that for millions and millions of people. it got rid of pre-existing conditions. it's taking the insurance companies out of the doctor-patient relationship. before, if you were a child or you had cancer, you could hit your lifetime limit on your insurance policy and then you were screwed. you couldn't get insurance, because you hit your lifetime limit in just a year or two. the affordable care act removes that cap and it allows those investments to be made and allows that person to be able to get their health care. these are commonsense things. so i wanted to communicate that to my constituents. mr. speaker, i want to say thank you. we are also here to recognize national manufacturing day tomorrow. i thank congressman reed who is the co-chair of the manufacturing caucus for his leadership on establishing more of these innovation septemberers
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along with congressman kennedy and with that, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. nder the speaker's -- under the speaker's announced policy of january 3, 2013, the gentleman from texas, mr. gohmert, is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the majority leader. mr. gohmert: thank you, mr. speaker. i always enjoy my friends on the other side of the aisle. some really terrific public peakers.
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i also enjoyed the -- particularly the question from my friend across the aisle who said, why not let obamacare just go through? and that is something that has been debated and i've discussed with so many of my constituents . there are many people in the ountry that are so angry about obamacare being passed, it's just hard to call it the affordable care, because i've heard so many that it has just devastated. so many who have told me that it's anything but affordable. it is devastating them. so some have said, if we just let obamacare go through, it is going to hurt so many people, it's already hurt so many people, if we just let it go through, stand by, just get out of the way, let it hit, let it
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give the full hurt and damage that it will continue, that will just get worse as it hurts the economy, as it continues to make people's -- most people's health care and health if ance both go up, and you're a purely political animal, that is the perfect question to ask. why not just let obamacare go through and let it do its damage? but when you care deeply about people, and you see the damage can you stand the let it keep hurting way it is? people have already lost
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insurance. . they've already gotten their notices. we continue to get emails, we continue to get calls. i continue to hear from people i know and trust back home, hear from other people around the country, and we've had -- there's been an email where people could send us their stories and then we try to , obamacare@ mail.house.gov, so those stories continue to come in to obama care@mail.house.gov. -- obamacare@mail.house.gov. so if you're purely a political animal, whether republican or democrat, it's a good question to ask, why not just let obamacare come on through? because if it is as bad as people are telling us it is, you see the damage to the economy, you see the people that have lost full-time work,
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and gone to part-time work, because of it, having to take multiple jobs, losing the benefits they have, you see businesses that had cultivated and trained employees who did not want to lose employees, who were building and building, that got above the 50 threshold and now they've had to cut back below that or go to part time, . u see the damage and so, yes, for purely political animals, why not let it go through, gee, as my riend noted, you know, if it's all that bad you'll win the next election, the majority in the senate next time, yield win the presidency next time -- you'll win the presidency next time. but there are some of us that don't think in purely political terms. we hear from people, our hearts break when their hearts break. we rejoice when they rejoice.
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and it's hard to feel good and stand by and let a train wreck or a nightmare, depending on which democrats' description of obamacare you want, just let it go and continue to wreak havoc on america and real american people and american lives. we've mentioned some of the stories before. some, and as i say, they continue to come in to obamacare -- come in to obamacare@mail.house.gov. here's one from jeff. i run a business in tyler. we have part-time associates that work 35 hours per week on average. but this varies due to the changing business levels. we provide transportation services, moving freight to and
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from tyler. since the implementation of the affordable care act we've had to cut down hours of these associates to get below the employer mandated level of 30 hours. these associates are used to working 35 hours on average per week. as most americans, they set their budget for their family around this many hours. our company needs to be able to compete in this market, so we need the flexibility of the part-time worker. however, we must now cut hours of loyal, dedicated associates below 29 hours. this is creating a problem first for our associates, who are simply trying to make ends meet and for the organization that i run to provide quality service to our customers. this law is hands cuffing the businesses -- handcuffing the businesses and will ultimately
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drive up costs of running a company. when costs rise, they are passed on to the customers and on to the end consumer. we will continue to struggle economically under this law. please do whatever you can to reverse this law and restore liberty to this country and our businesses. .ot one from tim, timmy when obamacare first passed as law, i asked my ob-gyn what he thought of it. his words were that it sucks. i told my husband, that i bet when all this is said and done, he would retire and guess what, he did. so the part about being able to keep your doctor is definitely not true. also, i own a small business with less than 50 employees. and we will never be able to grow our business any bigger
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than what it is right now. sad. from tammy. mary said, we had insurance business and my retirement package which cost us $27 a month. it has been canceled effective january 1 of 2014. and comparable coverage is going to cost us $300 per month . .e are on social security this is from walter and mary in east texas. here's one from harold. my granddaughter teaches elementary students in miss the key. she was shocked to find that the health insurance she carries on herself and her son has doubled in cost since the school year. she inquiried as to why and,
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well, you already know what the answer she was given, obamacare. single mom, her son. here's another from a business owner. i've been told that my company offers what is known as a cadillac health plan, although it's been years since anyone in my company could afford a cadillac automobile. as a small business, i use the ability to offer health care that was superior to others to attract and retain quality, long-time employees. now faced with being taxed for providing too much of a good thing, i will reduce the benefits to my employees. we call that a left-handed handshake in texas. it doesn't sit well with me. i'm sure not well with my employees.
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i'm considering early retirement and closing or selling my business altogether. it just doesn't seem to matter to anyone anymore that hard work and doing the right thing all these years ever counted for anything. here's hoping some folks will pull their heads out of, well, efore it's too late. i was part of ten abilities reduction in force on june 21, 2013, with low hospital census and poor c.m.s. reimbursement. my position was eliminated. i lost the family health care. i was paying $2,062 annually with a family deductible of $2,400 for our medical, dental, prescription and eye insurance. for cobra, blue cross/blue
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shield insurance, we will now ave to pay $1,000 per month or $12,000 annually. my unemployment will not cover the cost of my insurance. that's from claudia. i'm a firefighter with the city of white house, texas, we've been able until october 1, 2013, to work up to 39 hours a week because the city cannot afford to give us benefits. the city asked us, if we could get on our spouse's group insurance, i could still work up to 39 hours a week with the new health care can law. i joined my wife's group policy, went from paying $189 a month to $600 per month. we've been told as of october
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1, 2013, the texas municipal insurance has interpreted the new health care law, anyone working over 30 hours a week has to be provided health benefits. we're now going to be cut back to working 24 hours a week and not get health care. i've left my wife's plan and went back to my own insurance policy, but with the cuts in hours, i cannot afford to stay on her plan and will have a hard time paying for my own. i cannot understand if the new health plan is going to get health insurance for everyone and i already have insurance, why can't i be left alone to work the 39 hours a week? at $13 an hour, 24 hours a week doesn't bring in much for the job we're expected to do and at 61 years of age, jobs are kind of scarce.
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i can't understand why my country is trying to put me on welfare. we have too many on it already. all i want to do is work. from john. here's one from carrie. i've been in law enforcement since i was 21 and what's happening to our officers, dispatchers and deputies today is disgusting. many rural counties, like mine, where i'm from, have voted in county commissioner's court and actually passed that because of obamacare the deputies will have to pay for their own medical insurance. these officers are already being paid below what surrounding counties are being paid. now they're going to have to spend over half of their income on their own insurance because the county cannot afford to pay
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it. let me break this down for you. a good friend of mine is employed as a deputy by the same county sheriff's office and makes about $900 every two weeks and $400 to $450 of that will now go toward medical insurance. this deputy was almost killed in the line of duty two years ago, resulting in a lot of surgeries and a year of hospitalization and rehabilitation as well. because of all of those line-of-duty injuries, he may not be able to get private coverage now. how can you ask a man or woman to lay their life on the line every day, to serve the public and enforce laws but then tell them that they'll go from spending about $150 a month on insurance premiums to about $450 per month? you should e that
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be able to go to the exchanges and if you can ever get through and some day get it, the not going to have the coverage that they had before, they've lost their insurance, they won't have insurance like that again, it won't be the coverage that they wanted, that they selected, that they agreed on. why? because if you like your sure nce, obamacare makes you're not likely to keep it. here's one from ima, due to obamacare, i received a letter from my doctor saying she would no longer take care of anyone on medicare. there is a big shortage of doctors that will accept medicare patients in our small
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town. i haven't been able to get another doctor to accept me as of this date. i never thought i would live to experience my own government treating us like we were a communist nation. our congress has truly let the american people down. i'm sure ima remembers being told repeatedly from everyone from the president, so many of our democratic colleagues here that if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. well, ima lost her doctor, like o many across america. here's one from jay. east texas. my son returned from a tour in iraq to an economy that hindered his job search for over a year. he finally got a job as a
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part-time warehouse worker. he was able to work 39 hours every week, which paid his bills and allowed him to put aside his savings for pilot training. thanks to obamacare, his hours were cut to 29 and move out of his apartment and into a communal house so he can afford to live. he has v.a. health benefits, otherwise he would have to pay for health benefits or a fine out of his greatly reduced income. this is from jim. my son has a learning disability, yet he has worked for a nationwide paint company for over three years. he is married. he and his wife work hard, refuse to go on welfare, have aeir dignity, life vision and committed work ethic.
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yet the best position he had attained was part-time at the paint company. he was working 32 hours per week and paying their bills but living basically at the poverty line. then obamacare came. and like so many companies, my son's hours reduced to 28 hours per week. this put him below the poverty line, and made it impossible for him to meet all his bills. he refused to pay welfare, because he has a commitment to earn what he receives. obamacare punished diligent community-responsible americans like my son. how many other working poor have been similarly hurt because of a program that was put in place with such irresponsible
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legislative leadership? if someone wonders what james is talking about regarding irresponsible legislative leadership, that came through a legislative process without any input from republicans, who represented nearly half of the country. so nearly half of the country didn't get any input into obamacare. we were told it would be negotiated on c-span by the president while he was running. not only was it not negotiated on c-span, the legislative leaders in this room, in this body who pushed it through without most of the people that voted for it have no idea what was in it. i read it. that's why i was so committed to vote against it and trying to
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get others understand what they were going to do to america. so this young man, who had known the pride of being self-supporting with a disability, providing for his family just above the poverty line and obamacare shoved him nto poverty. , it's ne from michelle not my friend representative bachmann. texas michelle. during this process and even before obamacare goes into full effect -- see, she sent this last week -- every single member of my family has been affected. both of my children who have always maintained full-time jobs and supported their families are
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now faced with part-time employment from multiple jobs because their employers can't afford to provide health insurance any longer, and as such, their hours have been reduced to avoid having to provide health insurance. that means my children, my grandchildren are all going to be forced into the exchanges, which are not affordable at all, despite the empty promises made by the democratic party when this horrible bill was passed. in fact, please tell our former speaker that now that everyone has had a chance to read it, it's even more obvious that this plan does not work. on my side, i have always maintained health insurance, but since the passage of obamacare, my health premiums have increased over 316%. in addition, my deductibles have
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skyrocketed by 500% and the covered services have been reduced. so thank you for allowing me to my health care coverage if i chose to. you didn't mention that it would now be unaffordable. here's one from leland. a dark age in medicine. that was the phrase my oncologist, at a recent visit used. he said when you cut reimbursements as low as medicare and obamacare have done, the number of patients i must see to cover the fixed costs of my practice severely impacts the time i can spend with a single patient. quality of care can't help but
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be impacted. oncologist. has an i hope and pray that his cancer is in remission. was amazeic -- amazing to hear democrats say, yeah, ok, maybe we did cut medicare in obamacare by over $700 billion. i'm not sure i hear them talk about the amount they devastated medicare, but only goes to the providers, but it does not affect your care. ell, you can find out from leland, it does affect their care. and when doctors, as we have heard from other people across e country, when you cut so
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dramatically, the reimbursement that a health care provider gets for providing health care service, either they are going to have to stop providing that service, or they cannot provide the same quality of level of service. seniors across america are figuring that out. wait a minute. you were so sold on this obamacare bill. you called it affordable. and yet, you tell me i wasn't going to be affected as a senior citizen in america when you cut hundreds of billions out from the services i was going to get? they are figuring it out. their service has been affected and will get worse and worse as time goes on. because that's what the government does. when the government takes over something, it's rare that it gets better.
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we got one from nick. hasamerican vet association decided because of the uncertainties of obamacare, to discontinue its sponsorship of its medical policy effective december 1, 2013. not only is his wife -- my wife and i had this insurance since she graduated from vet school in 1976, my dad also had it when he graduated from vet school in 1952. so now at the age of 61, we're looking for new insurance. i'm sure nick recalls the promise, if you like your nsurance, oh, you can keep it. -- 's an email from debey
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debbie. i'm responding by letter letting you know that i lost my health care insurance terminating at the end of this year due to obamacare. we have her name and information. one from tom. my doctor retired as a result of obamacare. hat's somebody who served in the army. here's one from emily. we had group insurance with my husband's work, a plan that covered our family that cost 568 a month, no co-pay, $1,200 er person has now increased to $1,100 and $4,800 per person to
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stay current with new health care laws. that's more than our house payment. once upon a time, a mother whose husband worked was able to stay home. now either both have to work to afford a thing like insurance or neither works so we can bum off he people that do. and her subject line was, unaffordable, rather than affordable. but her insurance went from $568 a month, which is a pretty healthy price there, basically dowling to $1,100 a -- doubling to $1,100. $4,800 per person deductible. that's enough to devastate a
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family. here's one from james, several months ago, we got a letter in the mail saying our physician -- i won't give the name -- was leaving her affiliated practice. when we asked her about it, she listed obamacare as the primary reason for leaving the practice. here's one from tye. i just received my affordable health care renewal notice from my health care insurance provider, which is one of the two members participating in north carolina's marketplace exchange. i have been informed that the lan which i currently have and
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like, will no longer be available under obamacare. as a result, i'm being forced to switch to a new plan. additionally, effective january 1, 2014, the premium for an insurance plan comparable to my current is increasing from $235 maximumfer month and my t of pocket is increasing to $6,350. he goes on to complain about hearing the president say on numerous occasions saying if you like your insurance, you can keep it. here's one from carmine. i'm a responsible family man. i have always provided health
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insurance for my family. in 2008, i was diagnosed with m.s. making insurance expensive. however, i always made due by having insurance either on my wife's plan or my own plan. in 2009, we lost my wife's plan and we worried because of my pre-existing condition. however, we learned that our state of new jersey had a provision that we cannot be denied coverage as long as we can prove we had coverage at the time i was diagnosed. i also found out in our state, new jersey, depend especially can stay on their parents' plan up until they are 31 years old. so two of obama's biggest benefits were available in my state. however, after being extremely responsible in this tough economic time, the obamacare law
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has now made any insurance policy nonrenewable. my wife worked hard to make sure that i and our child are covered under this plan, and now we will lose it. we do not know if these plans, which could be a little cheaper, will provide the coverage i need. i have a specific doctor i see. because the liberal democrats want to cover the uninsured, a nobel thing, they are hurting those who always try to be responsible. carmine in new jersey. and it is worth noting, mr. speaker, that back during the obamacare debates, there were many of us, republicans, that were saying to our democratic friends, they controlled the white house, they controlled the house, they controlled the senate, said, look, why don't we do a bipartisan group of bills or one bill? we can agree on a bill that allows people to keep their
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kids on their insurance if they're dependents. we can work something out here. and we were told we weren't needed. because they controlled the white house, the senate, the house of representatives. they didn't need our input. and they rammed through a bill without knowing what all was in it. i know of cases, i've heard of cases where people had acknowledged conditions, insurance company said, we know , and then later got dropped for having, after they got expensive, oh, you had a pre-existing condition. there have been things that were very unfair that insurance companies have done. and there are ways to deal with those things and when there are not, we should fix it with legislation. but what the democratic party
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did, without most people who voted for the obamacare bill knowing what was in it, they passed a law that had not been properly vetted or thought through, there was no chance to fuss about amendments at the subcommittee, at the committee, or here on the floor. because the bill that was dealt with in the subcommittee, committee, it wasn't the same one that they rushed through as the final obamacare. i read the thousand-page bill. i read their 2,000-page bill when it looked like that was what they were going to vote on here. and then it turned out, here came the other. so i was slow to make my way through that bill. i really didn't want to. what if they come back with a ,000-page bill after that? well, when it turned out that's what they were really going to do, i went through that. i wasn't able to go through and
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take the sections in each place that were talked about in other bill, other laws. so it's almost impossible unless you have a tremendous amount of time to go back and figure out how it actually affects other laws but when you read through it, you get an awful lot of gist of what's happening. and it sure wasn't something we should have passed. karen from vermont, actually, said, shortly following the passage of obamacare, i lost my primary care doctor. he decided to join a group that limited the number of patients that he could treat and that charged a yearly fee not covered by medicare for the privilege of remaining his patient. this resulted in hundreds of patients being dropped. she says, from vermont, put an
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end to obamacare. she lost her doctor, she didn't get to keep him or her. here's one from dee. my insurance deductible was raised to $4,000 as of september 1, 2013, for individual, $8,000 for family. she goes on to describe all the other things that jumped up as a result. here's one from erica. one single disabled mom to disabled son, i am on medicare and medicaid, just got my new policy for 2014. half of the insurance i had is gone. because of -- well, i can't read that here, mr. speaker. ut erica describes the bill in
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such a way that i can't read it on the floor. nyway, she says, i was able to join a gym on a discount to keep me active, but no longer can do that. my price increases for my prescription drugs, please repeal this bill and listen to the american people. here's one from helen. obama's artist, and hold on our economy has ruined my business. my target market is middle-class, stay-at-home moms. but almost all my customer base as shifted to those owning half million-dollar homes. i know because i check every time i make a sale. this makes me very sad.
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and even mad that my only -- that only wealthy can afford my art now. should have gone into gun sales, which don't discriminate. obamacare has forced my family to lose our blue cross from my husband's work because he cannot afford us anymore. we're almost old enough to go on medicare but i hear it's obamacare which we refuse to participate in. we're not obama's slaves. well, i'm not going to read the rest of that. helen obviously is rather bitter because they liked their insurance, but the promises were broken. she didn't keep her insurance. she and her family. so i want to go back to the question, my -- the question my friend was asking.
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that's only a portion of the stacks of emails we've been getting. why not let obamacare just go through? well, like i said, if you're a pure political animal, yeah, let it go through. let americans like these poor folks, let them keep suffering and, ooh, it will be so good, republicans will win back the majority in the senate and we're told, oh, gee, they'll win the white house in 2016. well, it just happens that to some of us, doing the right thing in congress is not about helping a political party. it's about trying to help the people that elected us. it's about trying to do what's right for the whole country. and if your heart doesn't break
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when you read these stories and when you take the phone calls and when you have people tell you with broken hearts of what's happened to their business, what's happened to their job, what's happened to their family, what's happened to their kids' jobs, and the why? ing that's going on yeah, if you're enough of a political animal like some folks, i guess, yeah, ok, maybe it would be great for the republican party if we just sat back and let it go through, let it devastate everybody. used er, my late mother to tell me she wished i would be a doctor. she used to have dr. mckeler who passed away this year. i think she's the one that kept encouraging me, but he would tell me, louie, you'd be a great doctor.
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i'll help you, you'd be great, we can get you into baylor medical school. you know, great medical school. but it just didn't feel like what i was being called to do. it didn't feel right in my heart. the en i think about suffering that is going on, i know that i'm in a place to make a difference. and we, every one of us here in this body, are here where we can make a difference, where we can help people see the doctor hat they should see. so the question has come from different constituents, from other people, gee, you know, all federal workers, now some think that congress has a different health care plan than all federal workers, but it's all part of the same federal plan that every federal worker
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has, and you've got choices you can make, but some people have asked a question, i don't have a really good answer for it, but they've said, if the if crats were so insistent, the real purpose of obamacare was to try to make sure people that didn't have insurance got insurance, and they really intended to make sure that if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance, and if they were really serious that if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, then why didn't they just figure out a way that if you don't have insurance, you know, you can choose from states, cafeteria plan or federal employee plan in their states. you know, do something like that? don't have a good answer. other than, when you look and you go through obamacare, it is
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very clear, as we said before, it wasn't just about health care, it was about the g.r.e., the government running everything. the government getting all of your most personal, private information, having every one of your medical records in the ederal possession. it's a disaster. ell, i have reflected on franklin roosevelt's speech. i admired the speech he gave in his room from that podium when it was white marble, that this is a day that will live in infamy. he gave another speech when he
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said the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, it's considered one of the greatest speeches by anybody. yet our president was on cnbc .esterday he said, quote, if we get into the habit where one party is allowed to extort, then any president who comes after me would be unable to govern effectively. that's rather interesting. it's a little different from the approach that bill clinton took back in the 1990's. because president clinton back during the shutdown, the few weeks that was going on, talked to the speaker of the house
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virtually every day. there may have been one or two days they didn't talk. but otherwise basically talking every day. and you had an interviewer , you the president about know, gee, wall street doesn't seem to have -- seems to be pretty calm. and the president, instead of , ying, that's a great thing everybody should remain calm, we're going to work this thing out, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, instead sounded like more of a fire alarm. gee, they better be concerned. he wanted wall street to be concerned, to be worried. because when wall street gets worried, then it means people that have invested in the market, that have their life
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savings, retirement savings in the market, it means they lose money. and yet that's what was suggested, get worried. t concerned. >> here's an article from yesterday from penny star, interview with the democratic colleague across the aisle who chaired the energy and commerce committee who brought obamacare to the floor. cnsnews.com asked, what i was going to ask if you read those pages of regulations. and those are the final obamacare regulations that have
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now come out and then published in the federal register. former chairman waxman who pushed through the obamacare bill said to the reporter, have you read them? the reporter said, no. have you read them. the former chairman who pushed through obamacare said, is it important that i read it? the reporter asked, did you read them, yes or no question. former chairman of obamacare said, i think it is a propa ganda question and i refuse to talk to you about it. since march, 2010, when president obama signed the affordable care act and its companion act, various federal agencies have published in the federal register 110 final
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regulations governing how obamacare will be regulated. hose regulations add up to 5,535 in the federal register. that is more than eight times as ny pages as there are in the 1,86 berg bible which has pages. and that bsh bad enough obamacare was never read by most of the people who voted for it and now you have 10,535 regulations that have been published that i'm sure nobody here in the house or the senate has read that are now the effective new law of the land. we've got new navigators, money, massive amounts of money being paid for navigators, and that's
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created a problem. "national review" online published this today by sean riley, tuesday marked the first day of open enrollment for the health insurance exchanges. it didn't go very well. wouldn't the consumers in at least 47 states encountered technical problems. these so-called gliches mask a concern for ious consumers. protecting sensitive data. the lack of sufficient security surrounding the exchanges should give potential enrollees pause. the coalitions of attorneys general from 13 states wrote to kathleen sebelius to express concerns over consumer privacy and oversight of navigators, the
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counselors charged with assisting consumers enrolling in the exchanges. specifically the attorneys general asked what policies were in place to screen and monitor program personnel, prevent raud, remedy cases of it and chief among their concerns is whether sufficient safeguards were in place to prevent security breaches. in september, the concerns of he attorneys proved. minnesota's health exchange accidentally 2,400 social security numbers complete with names and addresses to an insurance broker applying to become a navigator. not only was the information mishandled, it was sent in and encrypted suggesting
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additional lapses in security. h.h.s., health and human services, has yet to respond to the august letter. concerns are not limited to the 13 attorneys general who wrote to secretary sebelius. dave jones, an early supporter of the a.c.a., expressed worry hat the 21,000 personnel supporting lacked oversight and could obtain information that would allow them to build the trust they have with the individual they are working with and potentially sell them all manner of bogus products, steal their identity and gain access to certain assets they might have. commissioner jones is not alone. a report from the oversight committee found that top h.h.s. officials are similarly worried
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about the potential for identity theft. any way, the article goes on, ticle here from "today", entitled obama, quote, i have bent over backwards to work with the republican party. it says, quote, i think it's fair to say during the course of my presidency, i have bent over backwards to work with the republican party and have down,ely kept my rhetoric unquote. of course, that's not exactly what the term extort would indicate from the other article, but again, i go back to the fact that during the last shutdown by the government, president clinton and newt gingrich were talking daily, only a day or two exception during those few
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weeks. i mention that tore another member of congress and he said that the difference must have been that president clinton anted to end the shutdown. because there's evidence that continues to mount that this wasn't about the republicans as much as it was our democratic friends' thinking that the polling data, the conventional wisdom that all of us in this body have heard if there is a shutdown, republicans will pay in the next election, so the conventional wisdom has been going around for some time. goes back, after hearing the majority was won by the republicans in 2010, that if there's another shutdown, we'll , the majority right back
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which always kind of mystified me a little bit because the last shutdown was in 1995, when it began, and it was 11 more years before the republicans lost the majority. and newt gingrich stayed speaker for three more years. and as a result, the relationship seemed to grow closer and the president and the speaker worked more closely together. but again, that was a different time because back in those days, the president would never call over the speaker of the house to say, i just wanted to remind you here in private here at the white house since you took off rom your busy day, i just want to remind you that i'm not negotiating with you, which had to feel a little weird to everybody in the room because everybody in the room knew the
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president has said after the next election he'll be a lot more flexible with the russians and certainly willing to negotiate with the russians and certainly willing to negotiate with the iranians which causes our closest allies to fight radical islam, that they have seen this administration throw one ally after another under the bus. we have heard allies wonder which ones of us may be next under this administration. so how is it the president can work with all these other countries, russians, iranians, rians, but can't negotiate with americans? this article from "national review" online from charles cook
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, an article that says that "washington post" blog is snarking a little about the lack of successful of obamacare signups. it is written, if you purchase your health coverage under the obamacare marketplace, about a dozen or so reporters would like to speak with you. we promise we won't take too much of your time. we just need to find you first. the federal government has said somewhat out in this vast country, 313 million, where 48 million lack insurance, someone has managed to sign up for insurance on the federally-run marketplaces. as of yet, we haven't tracked these people down. it's not the lack of effort, reporters here at the "washington post" and at other publications have been on the hunt for this mythical creature.
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this is sarcastic. this article from "the daily call" from alex pappas on october 2. intown see, those shopping on the new health insurance co-ops up with more than health insurance, they just might walk away from a smartphone. community health alliance, tennessee's obamacare health insurance co-op is using the prospect of a free phone to encourage people to enroll. and it says, community health alliance, tennessee's health insurance co-op is running a unique program to drive enrollment and its plans for sale on the exchange, health exchange for a smartphone as a part of its community health
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insurance program. it is offering qualified programs and that is an l.g. smartphone, a phone plan and tech support as a cost of their health plan benefits. the phone plan includes unlimited talk and unlimited exting and 1.2 giga bites of data. and the article goes on. and this is by the associated press in paris, that the government shutdown spreads to the beaches of normandy. tourists traveling to pay their respects to the 9,387 military dead at the normandy american cemetery, will find it closed, a victim of the u.s. government's artial shutdown.
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we have seen what has happened to this country and what is happening to this country. it's time to stop the suffering. we could let it go through and let people continue to be hurt. i never took an oath to do know harm, but by golly that's what this congress should do, stop the harm. let's at least delay obamacare and in the meantime we'll keep pass spending bills to keep things going. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to clause 12-a, rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess subject to the call of the chair.
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the third day of the republican government shutdown. it could be over in hours if the republicans would take yes for an answer. yesterday afternoon over 100 members of congress and others who backed what we were doing stood on the steps of the out to johnspoke
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boehner telling him to allow a to keep the government open. on two separate occasions yesterday on the floor, we proposed keeping the government open by except ring the senate bill. that is bill number 986 that the house republicans proposed. on both occasions, every keep them ed to government open, swallowing the , even though it is a figure most have opposed, but not when the issue is are you going to shut the government down.
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i spoke again to the speaker to accept this number of 986 and ask him to bring up the vote. some members say they are willing to reopen government by voting for this number. enough of them have spoken that if the speaker brought to the -- brought the bill to the floor, it would pass, strongly supported by democrats with enough republican votes to be sent to the president, be the law of the land, and government would be open in a matter of hours. instead, republicans are taking the piecemeal approach. it is really a gimmick. they cannot cherry pick their
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way out of a manufactured crisis. these games have to stop. this is not just about this particular -- when you are cherry picking on an , you cannotns bill pick. bit -- cherry labor bill, we call it lamb eat lamb. there is nothing you would want pay forn order to something else. there is a oneness to it. when you take a piece out to say this is what we're going to upsetting there balance of the bill. this is an irresponsible approach. i am concerned now that the republicans are trying to buy
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time in order to tie the shutdown of government to defaulting on the full faith and credit of the united states of america, and that is really -- that would be cataclysmic. it would be dangerous to our economy. i was so proud of the president last night because he was very clear about not negotiating on the full faith and credit of the united states of america. what i suggested last night was to things. one, let's just take it off the table. democratic president, republican congress, democratic congress, republican president, let's take it off the table. in thepeople have talked context of fiscal responsibility about suggestions they may have, on we have never defaulted the full faith and credit of the of america.s
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of course, this is all about the affordable care act that they want to overturn, defund, the whatever the law of the land is. the fact is, they have no connection to each other and they should not be connected. let's addition to saying take the full faith and credit of the united states of america off the table as a threat or leverage or anything else, let's also remind each other that any bill happening in congress can be revisited. another bill can pass or be amended. you can always improve and have a debate over any bill, but you should not and must not do it as a threat to the full faith and credit or the threat of whether
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you will keep government open or not. i can only think that they do not have confidence in their ideas but they would inc. they have to go to these extremes for --body to listen to them think they have to go to these extremes for anybody to listen to them. it is always important to know kitchenmeans to the table discussion that americans families have. it will raise the interest rates on credit cards, mortgages, , you name it. it would also, as i said before, have a negative impact on 401(k)s. me.t just take that from the treasury department this morning issued a report that warned of the dire consequences of taking us to the brink and perhaps over the brink. could freeze.
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the value of the dollar could plummet. for could make it harder .amilies to get home loans the011, americans saw impact of the last consumer debt , and that was just a discussion of it, just the discussion of it that we had our credit rating downgraded. in 2013, this self-inflicted wound that we should avoid. have references lately because it is that time of year. five years ago today, president bush signed the tarp legislation. members of congress, this was an extraordinarily difficult vote. iti have said before, we saw
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as a meltdown of our financial institutions because of the failed economic policies of the bush administration. president bush's administration and his secretary of the treasury came to us with their suggested solutions. we amended it, but we didn't like it. and yet, it was the democrats who saved the day and supported president bush on this. republicans to this day have not what was promised for that bill. that is what we're here for. we have our differences, we have our discussions, but this is the united states of america, the greatest country in the history of the world. the least our republican colleagues could do is vote to keep government open as we did for president bush when our
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economy was in such danger. reach across the aisle. this is a big concession for us to go 49 86. up big concession. leaders are railing against it, and yet, in order to keep government open, we would extend a hand of friendship to our colleagues and say ok, we will accept your number and let's go to the table. so, this is awful in terms of the government being closed, but now we're in the third day of the implementation of the affordable care act, a dream come true for many people in our country that they can fully realize the promise of our founders of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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it is interesting and i am excited that in the first two days, the federal government run health insurance markets -- that means, don't count california, don't count new york, don't count states that have state-run insurance markets, in the federally run insurance markets, 7 million people visited , nearly 300,000 people call the health care hotline, and 100 67,000 web chats were requested on healthcare.gov. this is in today's, excluding california, new york, and some states that have their own exchanges. the overwhelming an ongoing response makes it clear that no matter how hard someone tries to stop it, the affordable care act is up and running. americans will keep gaining access to affordable quality
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and we will continue to take pride in adding a pillar of economic security to our society, social security, medicare, affordable health care , the affordable care act. we are very proud. intentional. republicans wanted the shutdown to dim the light on the affordable care act. dimthe fact is, you can not the enthusiasm for something so important to the american people. with that, i will take questions. >> back in the mid-1990s, resident clinton and the congress were able to do things things during the shutdown. why is their opposition now as opposed to 1995? different story.
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we were doing appropriations then. if we open government, we can do an appropriations bill. not a question of saying we are going to take this piece. we have the veterans bill, which we passed in june, with many more billions of dollars in the bill. and now they are taking a piece of it. iss piecemeal effect irresponsible and harmful. we had passed already, before we someinto the shutdown for appropriations bills already in the middle 90s. but this is a different approach. it is totally acceptable, and it is not going to get us to the table. it is keeping government shutdown. >> doesn't make it more
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difficult to explain to the optics badre in the for democrats and getting worse if republicans keep passing these piecemeal bills and -- and democrats keep standing fast? >> we have to do the right thing, whatever the optics. the right thing is to open government. then have any discussion you want. cut a billion dollars in veterans benefits e let's have that discussion and amend the appropriations bill to do that. i don't think that's what the american people want, but they ought to go to the table. they don't want public to see in its totality the disaster that their budget is. that is why they are cherry , and we are not going to support that. it is wrong, and i salute harry
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for holding his caucus together. yesterday, you circulated a letter calling for a clean cr. i was wondering if you were circulating that letter to republicans as well as democrats. sign on.re welcome to that's for sure. in the house, republicans held onto their own number. every democrat voted to open government by agreeing to the republican number, and republicans held onto their own number. now they are coming forward one at a time and saying they want a clean cr. abandoned their leadership by voting on the floor, but i think they are making their full uses -- their
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voices heard. >> can you explain how you were with obama,ing speaker boehner and others for an hour and a half and made no progress? how is that possible? >> i did not see it is a meeting make progress. progress is made when you do not waste your time on skirting the issue. we had great rarity with the clarity with the president. i am always proud of him, as you know, but he was very clear role our constitution, the of congress, the role of the president, and how we have to respect each person's responsibility. the role of congress is to pay
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our bills and to pass legislation that would keep government open. we had that clarity. that i saidoint free -- let's take full full faith and credit off the table and if you want to debate act, debatede care in the congress, but do not say we are shutting down government unless you delay it, overturn it, or whatever else. meetings are productive when the air is clear and people make very clear what they are willing to do. i did not leave their thinking that there was not some possibility. maybe i am always optimistic, but we have to do everything we can to find common ground.
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if i told you a week ago that we thed help republicans pass bill on the floor, i would be doing it with far fewer democrats than i can now. but we worked through this to say we must accept their number so many people are out of work. almost 600,000 veterans work in , many ofal government them in defense, and really, across the board. 600,000 people of a 2.1 million person workforce. more than a quarter of the people who are now without work and pay our veterans.
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this piecemeal --ect you were asking about cut six $.2 million from the department of veteran affairs. when you ask are they getting nervous, no, they are not getting nervous about cutting something from veteran affairs. we have to count on you to get the message out about that. but i think we could stipulate s on certain set of fact things that may have been hazy, and we have read will among us. -- goodwill among us. that is useful. but i think it was a productive meeting. how long was it? ok.
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i did not realize that. some people are working on a proposal that would include a cr and an accompanying tax. would that violate your principles? >> you left out an important ingredient. it is 986 for six months. that is the more significant part of what they are proposing. think it is important for people to put their ideas on the table. to the extent they can have conversations in a bipartisan way, that is what we came here to do and that is very wholesome. i think him again, as i said before, if you want to have a
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discussion about a medical device tax or anything else over here, fine, but do not tie it to shutting down government. it should not be there. respect thetely people trying to find common ground. just to get your point last night, all these conversations, you learn from them and they advance the cause. i problem, first of all, don't want to unravel the affordable care act if you want , but usingseparately act to shutle care down government, not going to happen. but 986 for six months would be devastating. when i said we would take the number, it was for six weeks. but i think it is good when
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people are working together, and again, i have the highest regard for my colleagues who are engaged in that. i do not know who the republicans are because i have not gotten the report on it. >> these issues are getting blended together because of the calendar and the darkness of the situation. from a practical standpoint, does it help solve both problems if they are melded together? we have to solve both of these issues. >> first of all, it is not because of the calendar. it is intentional to bring these together. why do you think we're doing this piecemeal exercise in futility on the floor of the house that is going nowhere? because they are stalling for push thisat they can
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the debt ceiling. i hope they prove me wrong. appearance ofvery being because of the debt ceiling. there was an element of truth in wouldn't itd about be helpful. my point is, let's open government, have it open for six the 986 level, and go to the table and have the discussion immediately, because that could solve some of the debt ceiling angst. one of the things regarding our
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credit rating and the value of , itdollar and all of that is not just the credit rating that is vital, it is also the uncertainty about having a budget. if we can be having those it could take us to a place where there is more of a comfort level. some have a discomfort level to raise the debt ceiling. with that, i am going to go back to work. i am very proud of them. they are full of ideas, imagination, integrity and the rest, and that is what is so sad about this, the opportunity cost for people working together in entrepreneurial spirit and
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reasonable while being unreasonable. remove the burdens of those who of the collateral damage ,his government shut down transforming negatives into as you work for the good of those who love you. in your merciful name. amen. >> the senate chaplain starting the senate's day today, a day already tense because of a third day of a government shutdown and can tin you debates on capitol debates onntinued capitol hill, made more so when the area went into lockdown and gunfire was heard. the shooting was reported by politico.
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they said police on capitol hill shot and killed a woman who led them on a car chase today that injured two officers and shut down the capital area for about an hour or so. politico writes that during a news conference today, officials confirmed that the suspect is dead and that a girl who was about one year old was in the black infiniti's sedan and in good condition. that the car rammed the outer gate of the white house and then sped down pennsylvania avenue. the infinity was stopped. one police officer, a 23-year- , waseteran of the force injured when his car hit a barricade during that pursuit. a secret service officer was also injured when the infinity
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struck an officer. said hetol police chief personally spoke to the police officer and he is doing well. they say the law enforcement say the car was registered to me or him carry of stanford connecticut and that kerrys driving -- mere yiriam of stamford, connecticut, and that she was believed to be driving the car. senate came back to conclude legislation. when they did come back, they spoke about the efforts of the capitol police to secure the complex. here is what they had to say. >> thank you, mr. speaker. at the outset, i know i join the majority leader in expressing our gratitude to capitol police.
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[applause] >> throughout the week, we take for granted folks who are prepared to put their own lives and safety at risk to save from those of us who work on capitol hill and those who visit their capital. i know that round of applause and deeply meant,
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and we thank them. gentleman.the >> i concur with his thanks to the capitol police. as well, each and every day, all of us dedicate from their dedication -- benefit from their dedication and commitment to our safety. to extend of us one that thanks and let them know we really appreciate it. i yield back. >> also, mr. speaker, i know the majority leader gave a tribute at the beginning of the last bill, but also, we want to thank and alleant at arms those who work with the sergeant
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at arms. [applause] >> mr. speaker, i know he may want to say a word on that as well, but i yield to him now for the purpose of informing the theers of the schedule for days to come. >> i thank the gentleman. mywell, on behalf of colleagues on the majority side of the aisle, i want to express our thanks to the sergeant at arms and the entire team needs up in this capital for their tireless dedication to our safety and well-being, to our families safety and well-being. each and every one of us has been affected and touched by some threat or some risk at some
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want tod again, i express our gratitude to him and his team. >> majority leader eric cantor whip stenyocratic hoyer speaking earlier this evening after the incident at the capital, the shooting of the suspect at the capitol and the return of the house business to the day, which was the passage of to what they call mini-cr's, short-term funding bills. today's bills dealt with the department of veterans affairs and the national guard. the house finish their work and went on to speeches after that. at this hour, the house rules committee is meeting. we are covering that on c-span2. they are considering rules for funding very us departments. you can follow that discussion on our companion network. we are also streaming that lie -- live .t www.c-span.org
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all of the sunday number three of the shutdown as congress continues to have a stalemate. at adent obama spoke today firm in maryland. here is a look at the local gazette. here is some of what the president had to say. we will get to that in just a bit. want to let you know we are opening up our phone lines to hear from you. here are the numbers for republicans. 585-3885 for democrats, 202-585-
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independence, 202- 7.5-3889- president. the >> and economic shutdown the results from default would be dramatically worse. a government shutdown, social security checks still go out on time. in an economic shutdown, if we don't raise the debt ceiling, they don't go out on time. in a government shutdown, disability benefits still arrive on time. in an economic shutdown, they don't. government shutdown, millions of americans, not just federal workers, everybody faces real economic hardship.
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in an economic shutdown, falling pensions, rising mortgages, rising student loan rates risk putting us back into a recession that will affect all workers, all of you. that's not my analysis. there every economist out saying the same thing. we have never done it before. the united states is the center of the world economy, so if we screw up, everybody gets screwed up. the whole world will have problems. generally nobody has thought to actually threaten not to pay our bills. it would be the height of irresponsibility. have said this i before and i'm going to repeat it.
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there will be no negotiations over this. at aesident obama earlier construction company in the maryland suburbs. we will be opening up our phone lines to hear from you on the state of things. let's go to our first caller. caller: hello. i have been watching most of the day, and i cannot believe we are in the third day of this. i have been trying to call for a while. i have been wanting to talk to a few people you have had on there. corn today,th mr. and i don't think they get it. i am so confused. there is no negotiation. there is nothing to talk about. obama and the democrats keep saying we are not going to relitigate this, and they continue to push and push and push. i am totally stunned.
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.202) 737-0001 chance toou had a talk to the republicans, what would you ask? caller: why do you continue to push for this and hold yourselves to the little few people in your party and let them dictate what is going to be set? there is nothing to dig tape. in the house, you are the majority. but in the senate, you are the minority and we on the white house. no one wants to listen to what you have to say. they are not hard-liners. host: you are calling from upper maryland? caller: cecil county. you affected by the shutdown or do you know people who are? caller: i know a lot of people who are and who have been
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furloughed over this. my wife works in the justice department and she has been furloughed. in herf people department have been furloughed. it is hurting a lot of people. over something that would actually help a lot of people, which is obamacare. let's go to cynthia on the independent line. i think at this point, it is not a question of who owns the white house or republicans or democrats. at this point, six hundred million dollars on top of our national deficit. obamacare is the law, point blank. the house of representatives speaker, at this point, in my opinion, is acting as a terrorist holding the government hostage from the american people. the law is the law.
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you fought it on every level. you did a great job. a great fight. there are parts of it i don't like, but at the end of the day, the law is the law. i think it is ridiculous to threaten people and put us ieper in dead -- deeper in debt. the house of representatives is a terrorist at this point. there needs to be something the american people can do about this. carinthia talking about the speaker and default. this was earlier today. a headline. this is in "the new york times."
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back to calls now. josh is on the republican line. caller: good evening. i wanted to mention a few things. there is no i in usa. both republicans and the mcgrath's need to realize that and get on with it. there are thousands and -- republicans and democrats need to realize that and get on with it. there are thousands of people who will be suffering soon if they do not start getting paychecks. there are people who put their life on the line every day and night. united states military, national
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guard, they need to get paid. families need to be taken care of. that call.s for let's hear from dolores on the democrat line. i have been keeping my ear to the ground about the government shutdown prior to the shutdown. my major concern about this is why hasn't anybody noticed that the president does not make all the decisions for our government. branches of the government. holding the government hostage. we are not really tuning into the real conversation. this is not just about obamacare. bucks. big the insurance industry. are the american people
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affected? do we feel some way about the government shutdown? of course we do. -- thisnot a government is all the people. it is going to become a dominant effect if the government does not reopen. you for your call. every day, we have been trying to bring members of congress for you to speak with about the situation. a member of the finance committee joined us this morning. guest: it is failed leadership all the way around.
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we ignored the process our founders set. are playing politics for the next election. we did not ever consider any of those bills, and then all of a sudden the fiscal year is over and we have to do a continuing resolution, which is terrible for our employees. i think it is failed leadership. if you are the president and you see a train wreck coming, you do not send the signal that says i am not going to talk to you all and wait until it crashes. republicans as well, this is about failed leadership, short- thanpolitical gain, rather what is in the best interest of the country. you can play all the political game you want, you can say i am
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not going to negotiate. but the fact is, we are at an impasse where we are not going to negotiate. -- we are supposed to create a vision of uniting the country. you need towhat pull people together. president oh, is my dear friend -- president obama is my dear friend. i love him as a man. i think he has failed. i think john boehner has failed. i think harry reid has failed. i understand why they have dug in now. they sent several iterations to the senate who said it does not matter what you send. we are not going to consider it. harry reid said the house cannot
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pick and choose. under the constitution, the house is the only people who can pick and choose what we spend money on. it all has to start with them. people have gotten locked out .nto their positions yous not good leadership. see tremendous disappointment with washington and most of the institutions in washington. it is not just politicians. it is the supreme court. host: the strategy from the house side is to send smaller, tailored bills to the senate. guest: that raises another issue. approach of this administration on the shutdown
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different than bill clinton's. the two memorial is open but there is not a bathroom for them. the park police have a bathroom but they will not let the veterans use it. cdc employees were there during bill clinton's time. they are not there now. 70% of our security apparatus was there. they are not there now. this is a political game. why are we doing this? all we are doing is harming ourselves. but don't make the problems worse. give both sides the ability to save face and come to a position. nobody is going to yell uncle
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from these hardened positions. what you have to have his leadership saying i am willing to lead. i am willing to give up something. i will eat a little crow and you eat a little crow. -- : so that host: so that means passing a clean cr. no, that is what the president wants him to do. is it right that the president pass certainy portions of the affordable care act and congress says he cannot and somehow that is ron? when you say this though -- this is not going to apply to businesses with 50 or more but is still going to apply to people with 50 or less, which is still the majority of
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businesses in this country, that is innately unfair. to say you want to change that and you are not willing to negotiate or even delay it, i understand things get out of perspective in washington. but i think what we are seeing right now is harming our country. -- s a display host. senator tom coburn from this morning. both the house and senate are done for the day. they're coming in tomorrow at noon for legislative work. senator reid saying he is expecting the senate to be in this weekend. eric cantor did say that he wouldmorning announce the expectations for the house and what me be ahead -- maybe ahead. right nowl you that the house rules committee is meeting and discussing the rules for some 10 bills that will likely come up tomorrow. that is underway and you can
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follow that live over on our companion network, c-span2. it is also streaming live at c- span.org. toe, we are taking you f some briefings from the day related to the government shutdown. there has been some response on twitter. this is george. --tweets ken says -- and from jd be -- hashtag is #i #cspanchat. caller: i don't think they
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should pass a budget. the government officials take too many of our tax dollars and expect free dental, free health. if they let this bill pass, obamacare becomes the law of the country. people are losing their jobs, losing the hours because of obamacare. insurance is going skyrocketing because they are talking about obamacare which is causing us to pay more insurance. more deductible. i think if republicans and democrats would pay their fair share of their medical and quit eating on the tax dollars of hard-working american people, i mean, it's a shame. host: just a reminder, mute your television when you call in. joseph is calling from indiana.
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caller: i am a member of the national guard. we had a couple of drills shutdown because of this. that affects my financial situation. i am 20 years old. we need to get something going. of people are out of the job. this is just wrong. people do not think about that when they are deciding on this. you said the drills were shut down. caller: yes, our drills are shut down. active orders get their money and that is fine, i believe in that totally. host: you will not get yours because you are in active. this is just a training drill. caller: correct.
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host: typically, what kind of drills do you do? trainings do a lot of for things like hurricanes and national disasters. we need that training. if a hurricane hits right now, what happens? we are right in the peak. katrina happened right around this time. ifmakes you think, what something like this happens? a lot of people will not be funded. host: a bill did pass today in the house funding the national guard and reserves. the question is will it be taken up in the senate. to ohio and the republican line. hello. asker: i just want to republicans to stand their
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ground. no side should use the other hostage, inhem order to pass whatever laws they want to get through. senator harry reid has the 180 degree opposite views saying john boehner is the reason for the shutdown. here are his comments from earlier today. >> we have a very simple message today for speaker boehner. let the house stop these irresponsible, reckless games and get back to running the government. he single-handedly is keeping the government shut. some recent stories have even keeping theat he is government shut down i hurt his feelings. if that's true, i am sorry if i hurt your feelings.
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out onshouldn't take it hundreds of thousands of americans who are out of work. they are really suffering. i can only imagine what leaders around the world must think. i met yesterday very briefly with the greek prime minister. phonetalked to him on the before and was looking forward to the visit. i was embarrassed. the greek government is having a lot of problems. we should not be a dysfunctional government. there is no reason to be other than one, and that is speaker boehner. cannot reform the most basic functions of government because he does not have the courage to stand up to the small band of anarchists. the path heis not
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would prefer. i know that because we meant the first week he came back in september and he told me what he wanted was a clean cr, and the 988 number. we have said this before. we did not like that number. we did not like it, but we negotiated. that was our compromise. that he nowll refuses to let the house vote on. that was our negotiation. i did not twist his arm. he twisted mind a little bit to get that number. it is not a number patty murray like. that was not her budget number, but it was a compromise. he refused to let his own party vote because he is afraid to , a very to something small band of people. what do they want you to go --
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what do they want? they feel disrespected. now listen to this. this is where the speaker is. i don't know what that even is. that is what we're dealing with. to do is let the house work. with a cr would pass bipartisan majority. all they have to do is let them vote. >> democratic leaders from earlier today in the senate. it is day number three of the government shutdown. also day number three of state health insurance exchanges opening across the country. an associated press story listed some of the issues facing the exchanges. the headline listed --
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cam is next on the phone in washington, democrats line. hello. my biggest concern right now is the government has so much lives. over our
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the united states of america stands for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and we cannot pursue happiness if most of our money goes toward taxes in ways thatsed control us. the health plan will take our money, our tax returns if we don't get insurance? it just seems like more and more control. the one good thing i saw was a man praying in congress, which i don't understand because of the split, whatever. it is not allowed in our schools but congress gets to pray. , am praying for our government and i am praying for our country and for all of the people here who love this country and one to support this country.
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anyway, that is my biggest concern is that our money goes to people that use it as they choose. host: she was referring to some video we showed you earlier of the chaplain in the senate starting off the session today. visiting guest chaplains start off each day in the senate. next up is mary on the independent line. caller: good evening. thank you for taking my call. i would like to share a couple of observations i have made over the last several months. i think it is unfortunate that toy spend so much propaganda the american people as far as the affordable care act goes.
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there is no government in the doctors office. what is happening with the affordable care act is between the people and their doctors. there is no government between you and your doctor. unfortunate that there is so much propaganda that people do not even understand what is happening. will comenk that it to tell beautifully in the midterm elections that the declared war on women. midterm elections may not count for much, but i think it will be different next year because they have taken medical decisions away from us and food out of our children's mouths. that will cause women to come to the polls in the midterm, even
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in gerrymandered districts. i believe it will come to bear. host: even in gerrymandered districts? caller: yes, women will stand up, regardless of their husbands. women will come to the polls. they will vote what they want to vote for. host: let's go to ohio next and melinda. go ahead. rememberhey need to who voted them in. in our constitution and says we the people. if they are going to use jesus's name -- the rules committee meeting in this hour to consider legislation that is yet to come. more of these short-term funding bills for departments. this was the headline in the
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hill -- there is a look at the rules committee. pete sessions is the chairman. that is underway. we are covering that right now on c-span2, streaming it on c- span.org. looks like they are going to revote right now. --hink there are 10 those bills they are reviewing. here is a headline this evening about some of what they are talking about. house republicans indicated thursday they were pursue more narrow spending bills including a bill that would pay workers hit by the shutdown. for allowing consideration of they have not had any sign the bills would get a vote. eric cantor earlier today said
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the house would not take up a clean cr. here is what he had to say. why not support that bill and see if it can get funded and fight obamacare in october? the speaker and i have both said the republicans' position is we believe we should fund the government but we also believe there should not be any special treatment for anyone. that is why we believe the right solution to bat is to provide for a delay of the individual mandate under the health care law. what that says is that big business, special-interest, should not get special treatment exemptions under that law. it.orking people don't get in the same vein, and perhaps with more intensity, no way
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should members of congress get special treatment under that law. so all we have to do is come iron out thewe can differences. as you can see, i guarantee you there is a majority of senators in the senate on both sides of the aisle that supported this funding bill to provide the relief immediately for these kids and their parents who are facing the circumstances. food inspection, low-income women and children, how are you picking and choosing what is going to get funded? going to try to address situations that are in critical stages. as others have said, these parents are at a critical point. these are clinical trials. they have somehow been determined to nonessential like
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the nih. we have other areas of the law we will bring forward today to address the critical things going on in this country. if of this can be resolved we can sit down and talk. that is how the american people expect them and their families to work out differences. it is no different here. we should sit down and have a discussion. because there is an insistence on no negotiations, my way or the highway, we are here. the nih budget would cut one point $2 billion because of sequestration. being draftedwas cut it another 20%. perhapssaying now that there has been a change in thinking about the role of government? >> you know i have been priority on making a
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funding for the nih. and specifically funding for pediatric ethical research. for exactly the reasons, when you have somebody young that has a whole life that could be ahead of that child, i do not think there are many things as a priority for us as human beings to put an emphasis on and fund. again, you look to see and ask the democrats whether they support a clean cr with sequester or not. this assumption everybody is operating on the somehow there is unanimity they would support a cr is an assumption a question. to find the things we can agree on where there is a majority vote in both houses. certainly pediatric medical research, medical research with clinical trials is something i
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think we should get done. harry reid should take it up today. thank you very much. some house republicans on c-span, we continue to take your reaction to this third day of the shutdown and debate on capitol hill. 585-3886., 202- democrats line. clearwater, florida. michael, hello. yes, i noticed under the bill clinton administration you had no deficit. just to remind the country. that the problem is the country is not working with the obama administration for the health care. they should give him a chance.
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host: michael in wisconsin next. thank you for taking my call. , ihink one of the things watch your tv program religiously. it is awesome. one of the things ever but he forgets about is we, the people. whether it is the democrats or the republicans, it does not make any difference. we, the people, count on our government. the shutdown is because of the government itself, not because of republicans or democrats. our leader needs to take charge. get them all together, sit them down, and make them come to a solution in the best interest for the people in our country. us,t of us, most of somedent obama took in
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things on his plate but he has also made mistakes. all of us have had to make adjustments. we have had to worry about spending money. we are not eating properly. we are eating things that are cheaper. let's get all of them guys together. let them come down to our level. not eat fancy. eat something cheap. stay in that room until they get a resolution. the bottom line is the president is responsible for that. it does not make any difference whose fault it is. it is we, the people. a similar view by one of our viewers tweeting -- the hashtag is cspanchat. officesline says some
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escape shutdown furloughs. he says the shutdown is leaving federal agency closed, hundreds of thousands of federal employees out of fort and museums in the dark. some offices it is like nothing has changed. he says nine senators have not furloughed any of their staff. that is from political. go ahead. caller: hello. have some concerns, to be honest with you. my husband was able to get a government position. we took a major pay cut. not only that, i have experience to the government furloughed.
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i have been a government employee 30 years. i work for the department of defense. i have been in government employee 30 years in january. i have never experienced that. back in 1995 there was a contingency plan in place in case there was a shutdown. we were given the unemployment ahead of time. this was so disorganized. i'm just mortified. i have a son that is going to going to college. of course we had to make the move from new jersey to maryland. of course that was another political thing. you know, it is very disheartening. it has affect so many people. you said you were furloughed due to the sequester? due to sequestration. host: what did your hours get reduced to?
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you got furloughed once every two weeks? caller: oh, it was once a week. we had a furlough day once a week. to say from 2009 until now, i hope career has been with the government. i have never experienced this. it is very scary. times of uncertainty, it is unbelievable. host: thanks for being part of the conversation. more of your calls and comments coming up. we wanted to show you the briefing this morning by senate democrats on the debate over the cr and government funding.
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>> we have a simple message for speaker boehner. let the house. those reckless games and reopen the government. he single-handedly is keeping the government shut. some recent stories have suggested he is keeping the government shut down because i hurt his feelings. if that is true, i am sorry. but we should not take it out on hundreds of thousands of americans out of work. they are really suffering.
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i can only imagine what leaders around the world must think. i met yesterday, very brief and briefly, withry the greek prime minister. i had talked to him on the phone. i was looking forward to the visit. i was embarrassed. the greek government is having a lot of problems going on. our problems? dysfunctionalbe a government. there is no reason other than one man, that is speaker boehner. you can't perform the most basic functions of government because he does not have the courage to stand up to that small band of anarchists. i know that is on the path he would prefer. i know that because we met in september and he told me what he wanted is a clean cr.
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we have said this before. number.ot like the 98 we did not like it. we negotiated. that was our compromise. he now refuses. that was our negotiation. i did not twist his arm. he twisted mind a little bit. to get that number. we liked.a number that was not her budget number. that was a compromise. he refused to let his own party vote because he is afraid to stand up to something he agreed to. small band of people are stopping him. what do they want? we are not going to be disrespected. i said if i disrespected, i am sorry. beare not going to disrespected. we have to get something out of
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this. this is -- listen to this. i don't know what that even is. that is what we are dealing with. let the have to do is house work. a cr would pass with a bipartisan majority. no question. all he has to do is let them vote. toif this will help, i want join in apologizing for anything i said that may have the congressman. i have not met him. if i said anything, i want to apologize and hope you will take it to heart and reopen the government. navy he should consider apologizing to 800,000 federal workers, 500,000 of them are veterans. and they are out of work. won't call on the
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floor of the house of representatives to put the government back in business. talk about disrespect. that is inexcusable. show yourthing to courage. it takes no courage to take it out on an innocent person, 800,000 innocent people. is going tolleagues make an announcement today that some major defense contractor in his state has announced a layoff , 4000e of the shutdown employees, because of the shutdown. major states. two talk about the impact of this. this is totally unnecessary and unforgettable. it is not about the dollar amount. we took their dollar amount. that is what senator murray and the rest of us agreed to. we have agreed to compromise.
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we also said we were prepared to negotiate. they want face-to-face negotiations. putre ready to sit down and the major issues facing this government on the table, between democrats and republicans. what is it really all about? it appears it is about the health care reform act. senator kelly ayotte said yesterday. i thought it was a telling comment. she is no fan of obamacare. absurdity ofut the when she saidtegy this yesterday. of why iten exhibit a was not a winning strategy. downse the government shut and the obamacare exchanges opened and continued anyway. clear that if the object of this
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exercise was to stop obamacare, it did not work. have 5 million people already been contacted by these exchanges. in the first two days. the only complaints is that can't get into the exchanges fast enough. can't get access fast enough. people have 230,000 already made contact with the insurance exchange in illinois. i am proud of that. the state that should take the most pride in what they have achieved when it comes to the extreme -- exchanges and the commonwealth of kentucky. listen to the numbers in kentucky this morning. reported by the secretary of the cabinet for health. she was on c-span this morning. -- 117 thousand visits to the insurance exchange. 109,000 screens.
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13,000 already applied for health coverage. 8000 are complete. how about that? two days in kentucky. 2000 have made their applications on the insurance exchange. i hope the senators take great to thesetheir response exchanges. how are they going to go home and tell these people they are not going to have health insurance? how are they going to explain to the people in their state why eliminating obamacare is in the best interest of working families? thank you when i want to thank my colleague. ok. today, yesterday we saw in the house and today in the senate an attempt to move some piecemeal bills, fund this, that.
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and they say, why do we do that? we like the veterans. it is true. we do. to fund these piecemeal bills would give ted cruz of veto power over what is funded and what is not. ted cruz came up with this strategy. and down the government then we'll let you fund them. ted cruz's not the entire u.s. government. ted cruz should not be able to determine he does not like student loans for middle-class food stamps, the government won't fund those but he likes.other things we are not going along with that. that charade is pretty much over. the house spent two days trying to pass those bills. we disposed of them in a half- hour. to the spotlight turns speaker boehner.
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the entire spotlight of whether the government stays open, sorry, the spotlight of whether the government stays closed or is opened. it is up to speaker boehner. we have started and we are working with the white house on a hashtag. just vote. heause everybody knows if put the bill on the floor of the house it would pass. it would absolutely pass. my guess is by more votes than anyone imagines. we are hearing many more congressmen are upset with the strategy of shutting down government. it is no longer a small band. it is growing every minute and every day. the number of congressmen this morning back in their home districts were talking about how the shutdown is a bad thing. every day it is worse.
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shutdown of ahe major industry. that is being repeated over and over again. defense contractors and others. to speakerl up bangor. i heard on the floor today mitch and speaker bangor -- boehner have said they do not want a shutdown. the tea party does want a shutdown. for a shutdown since 2010. that gives you a couple of quotes. west moreland in september talking about a shutdown. he said the government shutdown, that is what i want to hear. in the audience applauded. you can get the tape. senator lee said a government shutdown was necessary. the list of tea party activists
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and of representatives who say they want a shutdown is along. it oney can't accomplish their own. they are aided and abetted by speaker boehner. party, you're not going to have your way, government would open like that. if he continues to aid and abet the tea party, the government stay shutdown. is not on thecus tea party. we know how they feel. they want to shut the government down. the focus is on speaker boehner. resist the finally tea party, the government could open in about an hour. >> are you going to apologize? apologies if ire have offended you. i don't know you. youi don't want to offend
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from afar or close up. >> lets me make it clear, if it takes a group hug, i am in favor. >> confession. sumsat we heard yesterday , wehe position perfectly are not going to be disrespected. we have to get something out of this. i don't know what that even is. they have no idea what they want anymore. but they are making our country pay the price for that. they seem to think if they do the right thing the obvious thing, a vote to end the shutdown while we continue to negotiate, then it will be clear house republicans were duped. they had no idea what they were getting into.
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they had no plans of getting out. cruz spend the summer traveling around the country promising the tea party the sun, the moon, and the end of obamacare. 21 hours on the senate floor pretending to filibuster a motion he voted for and then he tossed the problems he created over to the house. norquist, heer pushed house republicans into traffic and wandered away. and then on tuesday, to the shock of the tea party around the country who had been told they shutdown would and obamacare, the new marketplaces came online, and millions of families and business owners signed on to healthcare.gov. there is still no creepy sign of uncle sam popping up into any exam rooms. i am not surprised republicans feel disrespected.
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takingre goaded into their own constituents hostage and they have to know they eventually are going to have to release them. many republicans are about their own situation, as egregious they feel right now, families and communities have real reasons to feel disrespected and the pressure is going to build. every day in every newspaper and s across the country, people are hearing about the impact of the shutdown. many of them are feeling at themselves. hundreds of workers are furloughed, including intelligence workers. an ice age -- nih researchers. small businesses. national parks closed. aliens of dollars being sucked out of the economy. the list goes on and on.
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so i say to house republicans, this is not about you. it is not about your feelings. it is about the people you represent. more and more republicans are coming out in support of a clean cr to end the crisis. 20 of them in the house so far. we say let the senate bill come up on the floor. give it a vote. and this shutdown. give it a vote. end this shutdown. inn he does, we are waiting the table, ready to negotiate on the long-term budget deal. does he have a point when we are not going to be disrespected. you are up there laughing. do you think in a negotiation they have to get something? what would it be?
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988 billion the dollars we don't like. that was my concession to get this done. that is what he wanted. and saidto my friends we're going to have to do this and we did. senator murray is an example. she led the charge. i kept trying to say and this thing. -- end this thing. we had over 100 amendments. talk about a concession. that is what legislation is all about. i did that. i trusted john boehner. he told me you have to do this. i won't go into all of the detail. he had some problems of his own. ofn they start doing all this. he changed that. he tried to live up to that. he tried to give them something to vote on.
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repealing obamacare. we could see through that. you made a deal. cr@988, which we hated. he could not live up to that. he has been doing gymnastics ever since then. yesterday, i said this on the senate floor and i believe this. i thought we had something he could not refuse. withll negotiate on you anything. i outlined anything he wanted to talk about. discretionary spending. . anything. that includes obamacare. we will talk about everything. open the government. get the debt ceiling out of here. irespectfully say to you think we have compromised a lot. we agreed what he wanted.
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then he could not do what he said he would do. of house members came forward and proposed a six said thisaid for and is a compromised position. did you take that? listen, we said we will negotiate on anything they want to talk about. that includes health care. government has to be open. we have to get the debt ceiling out of the way. into the ing to get and outs of that but it is toething i have spoken senator hatch, we are willing to talk about that and anything else. this proposal is an act of desperation. , youan't do something
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can't do it. it involves tens of billions of dollars. >> if we were to give and while the government is shut to a demand, what happens on the debt ceiling? what happens when this cr has to be renewed? their head, gun to we got something we wanted. we will up the ante. it is not the specific proposal. it is the message. we are going to threaten and shut the government down until you agree with us. you can't fall for that blackmail or it will get worse and worse. so they open up the government and we will talk about it. >> and the president was very clear about that. ceiling is the debt not a place where there should be hostagetaking. my republican friends say it has been done before.
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obama,ng about barack when he becomes professor, he gets pretty good. he laid out how this debt ceiling would work and it has never happened before. never. chuck, that is absolutely true. a stand-alone bill to pay the troops, why were you able to agree to that? all ofuse we had not had the silliness back and forth. we thought that would and it. it did not. your own offices to reduce staff. you have individual aides today. people can't get into federal office buildings. what are you doing and do you expect to be here this weekend? >> yes, i expect to be here this weekend. we do not have to be here. all we have to do is have the
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vote. have closed my i nevada offices. which is so hard. furlough.ple here on a lot of people. it is a shame. , they just had their third baby within the past few months. this is hard. he is home. i am sure i am, not violating confidence, she has a lot of caseworkers who make $27,000 a year. a number of for reasons, one of which is health care. they are on furlough. up to the senator what they do. i reduced my staff a lot more. i have a list of my people on my desk.
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i feel sad about that. [indiscernible] you seem to have changed your demand. you have a clean cr in the house. are you going to pass a clean before youg bill open to negotiations? debt ceiling is facing us. we are talking about the ceiling. it is hard to separate them because they are on top of us. will you act on the debt ceiling? >> we will act on the clean debt ceiling. going todent is not negotiate. it has never happened in the history of the country. never happened. it has never been a negotiation like this. in the past, you have a bill we are trying to get through. they adopted the rule in the
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-- what was it? rule.phardt it has never happened before. ever. we can't do this. buffett isarren always trying to be nice. he said it would be so bad. he knows how horrible it is. the debt ceiling is cataclysmic. in 2011 -- >> let me get this young lady. >> my question is for senator durbin. you elaborate on the contractor? >> i'm going to let the senator announced that. >> senator reed, in 2011 you agreed to $38 billion in cuts
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and a policy preventing public money to go to pay for abortion procedures and the district of columbia. there were concessions on the debt limit. negotiatethe state to on keeping the government open in 2011? we are where we are now and not where we were tehen. voteckaging them into one -- a number of them have spoken about it. is that something you would be open to? or is there room for anything else? >> we have made it clear. the president was articulate i am doingand saying this not for barack obama. i'm doing this for the country. every time we have to raise the debt ceiling, which has been times, 18 times during the ronald reagan administration.
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you can't have a president held hostage to situations like this. the president will not do that. he understands what america is all about. obviously the tea party either don't or don't care. is there any bright spot right now for the public? boehnerel positive john , who is a nice guy, can't let this go on. he can't let this go on. he can't let it be more important than the country. allow ahn boehner does vote on this resolution, what would you like to see the next one? you know the position he is in. the security of this nation
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and the economic welfare of this country is not john boehner. is going to let his speakership be more important our we have, 72% of intelligence community, they are off for. off work. they can't do their job. you have people at the national institutes of health the can't get care. sick babies. sick everybody. they can't get the help they need. i can't say it as well. i am not very good at words. i will close with this. here is what he wrote today. republicans continue the light bulb strategy, deciding which functions are were saving and veterans, troops, and taurus
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attractions. out, poor children and pregnant women. ,ere are some of the functions market regulation, chemical spill investigations, and antitrust enforcement, immigration checks, workplace the environmental protection agency, communications and trade regulations, nutrition for 9 million children, flu monitoring and the disease control, and housing and rental systems for the poor. hisohn boehner thinks speakership is more important than these people, i feel cipher john boehner. john boehner. democrats are back in session tomorrow.
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more debate on short-term spending bills. these individual cr's as they are called. coverage on c-span. this evening we continued to have our phones open hearing from you on this third day of the shutdown. here is how to be part of the conversation. epublicans -- the #is c-span chat. a bunch of calls waiting. for being there. go ahead on the republican line. democratic line. caller: thank you for taking my call. government employee, so was my father, my grandfather, two of my sons are in the military. one of them is graduating tomorrow. host: congratulations.
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caller: thank you. i was embarrassed today. the base is not that big. due tomissaries closed the government being shut down. it is hard as a father to explain to your sons who are willing to lay their life on the line why the country is not willing to do its job. that is to keep the government running. to our way ofve life. statusisruptive to our as a leader. the ability of the nation to stand up to other nations and say you should behave properly because we are supposed to lead by example. tonight, one of the key
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functions of the aviation administration is closed down. i could go on and on and on. people are out of work. what about the falloff of them not making pay? whichng their credit, most of it they have spent the in the house of representatives. senators to pass a budget. do something right for the country for a change. put partisan politics aside. quit your bickering. quit jockeying for your position. host: the washington post writes about the economic impact of the government shutdown. they say the impact will , itease as it persists hundred thousand workers have been sent home without pay. million could1.3
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see paychecks delayed. and on tuesday, jpmorgan analysts estimated it will reduce the income by a total of $1.3 billion a week here at next is joe on the republican line. caller: thank you for listening. i am glad the republicans are standing up to the democrats, the president, and the u.s. senate are a disgrace. all they think about is helping illegal immigrants and people from foreign countries. nobody helps the middle class or the elderly. they have to struggle for everything to get their medicine. sometimes they do without. they would rather get free indicate -- education to the immigrantsillegal while i have to work two jobs. there is no special care for us. they give us a loan but we have to pay it back. they do not give us a demo schedule.
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i am tired of -- a discount. i am tired of paying to the help of illegal immigrants. there is no support with the economy. they never went after the stock market like they said they would. they gave out stimulus money, trillions of dollars to people and did not hold them accountable. of senate and president allows that to happen? the best thing to do is for the american people to stand up, go to washington and to the capital and say get out of office and put some people in that care about the american people. it is time we do it now. hear from virginia. bill is on the independent line. preamble,, by way of my dad did world war ii and korea and died in uniform. i did vietnam, beirut, desert storm.
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or send in iraq and afghanistan and was wounded. heavyhave done some lifting. i think if we take a step back it is important to look at the conflict between the congress and the executive ranch. the aca is a classic example. the executive branch has taken a parts of and deferred the law. when it was supposed to happen. sure the executive branch has that ability or authority to do that. take a step back, we are looking at a conflict between the executive branch and the legislative branch. i think that is something strong. it is something good for our government. thank you for taking my call tonight. to hear from you. the conversation continues tomorrow on "washington journal." we will be live from the offices
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of the national review. we will hear from their editor folwer,osta and jack the publisher. nuru and jonathan a strong, tomorrow on "washington journal." headline, boehner to gop, grand bargain is in the works. house republicans tell me john boehner wants a grand bargain on fiscal issues as part of the debt limit deliberations. on wednesday he urged colleagues to stick with him. cnn, sourcesm telling cnn john boehner said he would be willing to rely on democrats to pass a measure to raise the debt ceiling. and reporting, a reporter on capitol hill, she says a member
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said we are not in a situation that can be planned out. oron't think john boehner the president have a plan beyond the next one in four hours. next is bend, oregon. the democrat lynn. caller: thank you for taking my call. ien though i am a democrat, do not vote that way. i vote whoever leads by the heart and everything. ashamed of our government, democrats and republicans. they are picky ringlike five- likeold kids -- bickering five-year-old kids. i was out of four 818 months and then i lost my insurance -- of 18 months and then i lost my insurance. i'm going to lose my house. kinds ofecked into all
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insurances. insurance rates have gone up because of obamacare. they have not gone down. thea said he would cut deficit in half, which is a lie. it is still at 17 trillion. the american people need to start from the top all the way down to the bottom and get rid of everyone of them. why when werstood vote these people in we could not impeach obama. he needs to be impeached. veteran inhank every this country who has stood up for this country and fought for this country and i believe the back toneeds to get god. that is why we were successful many years ago, because we put god first, not ourselves. host: the veterans bill was passed today in the house. thepartially funding veterans administration,
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veterans affairs, i should say. that passed earlier today. partly because of the pressure after earlier in the week, the world war ii memorial being closed and the veterans gaining access to the memorial. ineadline, an opinion piece whoonal review online, locked little johnny out of yellowstone? it is the democrats who would vote down the reopening of parts of the government. the national review online. we will be at their offices tomorrow and throughout the program. that funding bill passed in the house yesterday. the number of republican spoke about that today. prior to the house gathering.
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>> good afternoon. good afternoon. i hear the folks behind us. as they are.rated i think my colleagues are as well. we are here today to say these monument, washington the world war ii memorial, the smithsonian, all should be open. we are bringing a bill to the floor today in the house that would reopen these monuments and these memorials and museums. it is a shame folks in this country who come to washington to be able to see these memorials can't. they should be able to enjoy these treasures in peace.
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that is exactly our message to harry reid in the senate and our democratic colleagues in the president. we should be working to open up the government in all the areas we agree on. no one disagrees these memorials should be open. no one disagrees we should not be funding the nih. no one disagrees we should be helping our veterans and the kinds of services they need. those are the bills we are going to be bringing to the floor of the house and we hope our democratic colleagues. and join us in trying to relieve the pain being inflicted on employees and the people of this country due to the shutdown. and perhaps, maybe, there is a silver lining that in all of this, talking about the memorial and the other kinds of memorials we have, perhaps the american
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people can look to see the great work it is affording our veterans so that hopefully we can join with them in wanting to see our veterans enjoy these memorials in peace. >> every week thousands of people travel to the nation's capital, american sometimes will save to make this trip. in addition, we have veterans, world war ii veterans we are losing every day. that the organization has made a commitment to have them come and see the special monuments built for them. and yet today they will be greeted with a barricade. that is unacceptable. there is no reason these monuments should not be open. open to americans and these veterans. we agree this is an important bill. this is important legislation we can pass.
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the only reason they are being greeted with barricades is because the senate refuses to negotiate. it all starts, we have to come to the table. we have to negotiate. all across the country americans are impacted. are livinght now without a paycheck. others are being greeted by closed doors all across the country. senate and thehe democrats refused to negotiate. we have to start talking. we have to come to the table and do what is right for america. it all starts with opening a dialogue with the senate that right now is missing. >> there are a couple of ways to do it agreement. one would to go back-and-forth and the other would be to say what do we agree on already? settle those areas. it is clear we have some common ground.
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instead of waiting around and fighting, deal with the things we do have agreement on and pass those. we should be able to move forward. this is not difficult. let's continue to work toward the things that are harder and harder. the last thing we put out was a request, but a community together. sit down and visit the same way the house in the senate have done it since the 1700's. we sit down together in a room and we worked it out. we are eager to do that and have times we can get this stuff open again and honor the individuals across the country. i spent this morning meeting 100 people who had taken time to fly to the nation's capital and visit their museums, their memorial, the world war ii memorial. , why wouldellow say someone try to stop us from
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seeing our own memorial? i thought, he is right. toone should be trying prevent those people. that monument was built in their honor to honor their sacrifice and their service. and the people behind me, republicans are determined to open up our parks and to keep the government running. we can't act unilaterally. we need a partner to do that. today harry reid and democrats have slammed the door on even having a discussion about how to keep the government open. i think that is a shame. the american people need to call upon democrats to work with us. >> there is onl we he probably owe most of thet thanks and gratitude for prosperity.
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the survivors of world war ii. there was a memorial erected in their oner to thank them for their courage, bravery, for a group of 91 plus veterans world war ii in and 90s to step off a bus after traveling from the state of mississippi to be met with barricades that say police line, do not cross is unamerican and despicable. i want to thank leadership for pleas to openthe up the memorials for all americans. belongs to america, not to the government and they he should be open. i want to thank them for and let ourthis vets in. >> three weeks ago there were came fromes that western pennsylvania and i was take them to the cemetery and they laid a wreath the unknown of soldier. when you see their faces, we had two world war ii vets. tears running down their
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peace, not tears of sadness but remembrance for those who gave their life. we never went to any of these wars as just republicans or democrats. we went as americans. these properties belong to the people.n they do not belong to a po political party. as i look back on my life and someone is saying could you play or a movie that featured better towns and better times with better parents, preach arers, teachers and coach cans than the years i grew up and they were all veterans. world war ii people and their tears are tears of remembrance over some of the young people for war with them about you did not return. and put those down now is a sin. kadesrtin i'm glad that leadership opened these up. are for all americans. this is not a political battle. greatestrance of the
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times our you country had and we shed to return to those, thank you. >> i'm richard hudson. a freshman from north carolina. today tored to be here talk to you. the people of north carolina want us to get the government operating again and the in the house have taken a reasonable position. the alleve that americans should be treated the same. we don't think special deals, different exemptions given by the president, exemptions for big business and for members of congress ought to stand. we think everyone should be same.ed the if you disagree with us, as reid does we said let's sit down and talk about it. our you monuments it is spiritedle and mean what it being done. if you haven't been to the world war ii memorial. memorial open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.
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the president decided to bring in. in fact, he brought people off addlough to come in and bike racks and barriers so that the world war ii heros who have thatn here to visit memorial can't have access to it. that is mean spirited. inere is no place for that politics. i went there today and visited with some of those heros and i proud that the'm men who faced down the bayonets of the japanese, who faced down germanshine guns of the were not deterred by the bike the park police. you.k take everygoing to issue out there that we have agreement on and put it on the theor and we will pass funding bills to go to the senate. we were confronted with this the veteranshat flying in from around the country, some of whom may be isd enough to think this
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their last chance that they could see the world war ii memorial and as my colleagues said, were stopped because of a decession by the aloe theration not to heros of ours to enjoy the memorial in peace. is very important that we join all together on this issue because like so many others we we ought to be funding this government. there ought to be federal employees returning to work and then we can sit down and differences like any american would do when they resolve a problem. >> i think that what we are trying to do is to get the quickly as open as possible. and all that it would take was realizing we have a lot in agreement and common. bills. pass the we will pass them out of the house today and begin a p

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