intelligence and law horsemen agencies are military -- law- enforcement agencies or military, we train them to do a better job so that it is a forward-deployed defense for all of us so we don't have to do it ourselves. that is something that has largely been cut out right now. we are not doing it. host: john bellinger is a former legal adviser to the national security council in the budget administration, served from 2001 to 2005. thanks for joining us this money. guest: nice to be with you. host: we will take you live to the house floor and we will see you tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. for "washington journal." [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute] l be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., october 10, 2013. i hereby appoint the honorable kerry l. bentivolio to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives.

the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 3, 2013, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour ebate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the majority and minority leaders and the minority whip each, to five minutes but in no event shall debate continue beyond 11:50 a.m. the chair recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. quigley, for five minutes. mr. quigley: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, this body has attempted to repeal the health care law 41 times. e this is -- this is being leveraged in the current budget fight. i want to take a few minutes to remind people why we passed the

health reform law in the first place. let's remember the situation before obamacare became law. clearly, the status quo was not sustainable. the number one cause of personal bankruptcy in the united states was medical costs and 60% of those who filed for bankruptcy had insurance. 47 million americans were without health care. premiums were rising three times faster than wages, eating up more of our paychecks and bottom lines. the average family was already paying a hidden health care tax of over $1,000 annually in premiums as a direct result of subsidizing the cost of the uninsured. small businesses were paying 18% more than larger employers for health insurance. people with pre-existing conditions were denied coverage thrown off their coverage when they got sick. and people were thrown in the

doughnut hole. we cannot go back. we cannot repeal this essential law. we must move forward together and fix the very real problems with health care reform. before we do that, we have to stop spreading falsehoods and set the record straight about what is in the law and what is not. myth number one, members of congress and their staffs are somehow exempt from the law. not only are members and their staff not exempt from the law, but they are actually subject to extra requirements. the insurance marketplaces that members and staff must now join were actually designed for people who currently do not have insurance or get it on the individual market. people already have insurance through their employers, like members and their staff, don't need to get insurance through the marketplace because they already have coverage. still, due to a messaging amendment in the a.c.a., members and their staff were required to get their insurance through the marketplace and they will.

myth number two, the affordable are act is a job killer. 90% of small employers are exempt from the requirements to provide insurance. second, most large companies insurance, get which most do so. it will require 1% of small businesses to do anything differently. some on the other side of the aisle often cite a congressional budget office report saying it -- what the critics fail to add is that the same report noted that the small reduction in labor would come primarily from people choosing to work less. there are legitimate concerns from small restaurants and hospitality entities that are worried about affording affordable coverage for their part-time employees. exaggerating claims that it is

a job killer rather than remedy it, there's nothing to help those people with those real concerns. myth number three, the affordable care act is driving up premiums. some historical context is important here. premiums grew 119% between 1999 and the year 2008. over the last few years, premiums have only increased an average of 4%. on the individual level, because insurance companies can no longer charge older individuals significantly more than younger folks, this will shift some costs to younger americans. however, the insurance subsidies provided by the law will significantly blunt those potential cost increases. those who are uninsured with pre-existing conditions who previously could not get coverage will likely put -- likely pay less. finally, those with employer-provided coverage, the majority of americans, will see

little change. we need to do more to hold down the cost of health care. but rather than talking about real cost reduction reforms, opponents of the law are simply trying to repeal it, 41 times. this nation's health care system faces real challenges and we need real solutions. if critics of the law spend as much energy on developing legitimate solutions as they do on perpetuating falsehoods about the a.c.a. we might make some progress. let's stomach the fear mongering, come together and have a real conversation about improving our health care system. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. mcgovern, for five minutes. mr. mcgovern: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. speaker, here we are 10 days into the republican government shutdown and just a few days away from hitting the debt ceiling and the republican leadership continues to spin its wheels.

the american people are rightly blaming congressional republicans for the shutdown, and they blame republicans for default too. every day seems to bring a new republican strategy, repeal obamacare, defund obamacare, delay obamacare, ask for the romney economic platform, yell at park rangers, pay essential employees, hold conference meeting, hold a press conference. meanwhile, as the republican conference tries to get its act together, americans across this country are feeling the impact of the shutdown and that impact grows every day. last month, usda released the annual figures on food security in america. these are the statistics of the number of people who don't know where the next meal will come from, essentially the number of hungry people in this country. and once again we see the effects of the great recession showing up in these food security numbers. according to usda, over 49

million people are food insecure. that means they are hungry. 17 million are children. these figures are virtually unchanged from previous years. it means hunger is not getting better in america. it's not getting worse but that's no consolation. while these figures are bad enough, house republicans apparently thought they should be worse and decided to pass legislation cutting $39 billion from snap, our nation's best, most efficient and effective anti-hunger program. those cuts would cause hunger to get worse. 170,000 unemployed veterans would lose access to snap. two million kids would be kicked off the free school meal program. overall, around four million people would lose access to snap because of these terrible cuts. now, that's pretty bad, especially considering that hunger is still a problem in america. but it's still not bad enough for the republicans. so they shut the government down. now, i know this shutdown isn't about hunger. it's about irrational demands by a few republicans.

but like the bill cutting snap by $39 billion, the impact of the shutdown is beginning to make hunger worse in america. look at nevada with 362,000 food stamp recipients will see their benefits halt on november 1. not reduced, halted. 425,000 women, infants and children would see their food benefits provided under w.i.c. halted as well. that's right. nearly 800,000 hungry low-income nevadans would lose access to food because of this republican shutdown. but it's not just nevada. north carolina announced tuesday that it had discontinued issuing food and nutrition benefits through w.i.c., specifically because government funding for the program has dried up. those eligible have already received their october benefits. but low-income women, infants and children will not get the help they qualify for,

including formula, fruits and vegetables. mr. speaker, we're going to continue to hear stories like this as the republican shutdown continues. re will see their food taken away because republicans in washington won't reopen the government. this is not the way to end hunger now, mr. speaker. we'll only end hunger now until we come together and decide that ending hunger is a priority. it's something we can do and we commit ourselves to accomplishing. mr. speaker, we can stop hunger from getting worse by reopening the government. we can stop hunger from getting worse by preventing $39 billion in snap cuts from being enacted. we can stop hunger from getting worse by preventing the automatic cut to snap already scheduled to take effect on november 1 from taking place. we need to end this republican shutdown today. republicans should not let poor americans go hungry simply because they can't agree on a political strategy in washington. that is not right. that is not how we should treat

our fellow americans. it is wrong and they know it. we should be working to end hunger now, not to make hunger worse. we can eliminate it. this is a fight we can win if we just found the political will and courage to do so. and mr. speaker, i will conclude by saying once again to my republican colleagues, bring a clean continuing resolution to this house floor so we can have an up or down vote, so that we can reopen this government and so we can prevent hunger from getting worse in this country. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from illinois, mrs. ustos, for five minutes. mrs. bustos: mr. speaker, i rise today to continue speaking out about the human consequences of this irresponsible and irrational government shutdown. we are now 10 days into this ridiculousness. what i've been doing is

spending time on the phone each day with the people from my region who tell me their stories about suffering due to the needless and increasingly maddening shutdown. i recently spoke with a family of jeremiah johnson. they're from a town called prophets town, illinois. it's a small town of about 2,000 people in white side county right in the heart of my congressional district. jeremiah is a disabled combat veteran who served his country bravely in iraq. he now is also a federal law enforcement employee who happens to be working without any pay. and while he's receiving no paycheck, he's also worried about the disability benefits being delayed because of the shutdown. so absolutely a double whammy for this father and this husband. in fact, he and his wife pam just celebrated their 18th

wedding anniversary on monday, and rather than go out and celebrate like many couples do to mark their joyous occasion, they ate at home because they don't know when to expect their next paycheck. so pam made a pie for her husband and jeremiah gave his wife an anniversary card. very simple and very sweet. on top of that, their 12-year-old daughter, carissa, actually offered her parents her entire savings in case they need it. when pam told me this story, she got a little emotional about it and spoke over and over about just what a good daughter they have. so in spite of their seventh grader's loving offer and for pam and jeremiah to remove any extravagance from their wedding anniversary plans, of course they remain worried about the lack of a paycheck and really their own ability to be able to pay their car payment and their

house payment. this is absolutely an unacceptable way that we would ever as a nation treat our disabled veterans, like jeremiah. we have the votes right now to open up our government and put jeremiah and his family at ease. but there's one way to do this and it's only if democrats and republicans come together. that's our path. it's that simple. it's common sense, it's reasonable and it is absolutely the right thing to do. mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. davis, for five minutes. mr. davis: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i rise to pay tribute to mr. marvin daniel price who passed away july 21 at the age of 81. mr. price came to my attention

because he is the youngest known person ever to play professional baseball in the united states of america. at the age of 14, marvin played with the chicago american giants in 1946. one might wonder how this happened. well, his sister, ms. gloria price simpson, tells the story that one day marvin couldn't come out to play because he was sick, and the other kids looked up to him so they spotted him in the window and asked him if he would call the balls. . he always imagined that baseball would play a major role in his life. and in fact it did. at the age of 14 professional baseball soon became a reality for marvin when he was spotted

playing baseball in washington park by the legendary chicago giants outfielder, jimmy crutchfield. a tryout was soon arranged with the then owner at comiskey park where the manager initially thought he was the new batboy. it didn't take long for him to show that he wasn't there just to distribute the equipment. marvin put on such a show that the chicago american giants decided to take him on a barnstorming trip to the south where he could play without jeopardizing his amateur status back in chicago. playing against hardened black baseball veterans in the south, marvin displayed an awesome hitting performance, and after a week he returned home to engelwood high school where he he graduated and went on to play professionally with the cleveland buckeyes, new orleans

eagles, and chicago american giants where he batted .390. just as it looked as though marvin was headed for baseball stardom, he he enlisted in the military -- he enlisted in the military and spent four years in the united states coast guard. after his stint in the military, he continued to play semiprofessionally. over the next 30 years he worked as a supervisor with the chicago post office while working part-time with the chicago park district teaching young people not only about the game of baseball, but the game of life. on friday, october 11, at the u.s. cellular field, formerly known as comiskey park, there will be a memorial ceremony in price's honor. family members, friends, and supporters, members of the white x and others are invited

tsh-invited to come and celebrate his rich life and history. he was indeed a legend before his time and so we salute you, mr. marvin daniel price, the youngest known professional baseball player in the united states of america. i thank you, mr. speaker. and yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from west virginia for rahall for five minutes. mr. rahall: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, some of my colleagues would have us believe that our current federal shutdown has no real consequences. i have heard some even suggest that this period of suspended government should be thought of merely as a slow down or a slim down. there is talk that the shutdown is causing no real pain. most extreme anti-government politicians even expressed the hope that such a cutback in government programs and services should be made permanent.

and too many others are content to hang back and let those with extreme views have their way for the time being. but i stand here today to remind my colleagues and the public that cuts in government funding and government programs have consequences. sometimes deadly. it is a lesson he we learned in 2006 when annual coal mining deaths sored -- soared to 45. a 10-year high, reversing a trend of steadily falling fatalities, a trend delibted in part to years of underfunding the mine safety health administration. it is a lesson we should heed now. this year as of september 4, 14 coal miners had died on the job in our country. this past weekend, this paths weekend alone, three coal miners lost their lives at work over three consecutive days, including one miner in west virginia. think about that. in the first nine months of the year, 14 coal miners perished on

the job. in the first nine days of the government shutdown, three dole -- coal miners have perished. mr. speaker, even one death is one too many. no one has linked these to the government shutdown, but the inability of this congress to pass a simple bill to fund all the operations of our government have resulted in the cutbacks of routine inspections essential to the complex system of safety and oversight of this industry. ners and operators know that multilayered inspection and enforcement system has been hampered. it was said, i quote, three miners killed on three consecutive days is troubling. the fact that this occurred over a weekend when there may have been a greater expectation that an inspector would not be present is a red flag. end quote. i hope that everyone in the coal industry from the c.e.o.'s to the office staff to security

guards to the coal miners themselves will redouble their vigilance and take every possible step to ensure the health and safety. and i urge my colleagues in this body to abandon this ridiculous political showdown that is undercutting the safety in our mines, our industry fatality, food chain, and so much more. this is not a slowdown. it is not a slim down. this is a political driven shutdown, and it has real and dangerous consequences for the people who put their faith in us to provide them with basic services to ensure their well-being, to protect their lives, and simply do the job that we have been elected to do. to lead. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from washington, mr. smith, for five minutes. mr. smith: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. smith: thank you. as this shutdown drags on, and i concur with the comments of my colleague from west virginia, it is serious and having serious

consequences. the american people are left to wonder why? back here in washington, d.c., you have all kinds of talking points and spend and circles around and it can get confusing because everyone seems to focus on the wrong things as to what caused this. it's very simple. i think understanding it and getting democrats and republicans to stop talking past each other is the first path to getting out of this. we have to understand that basically when you pass a budget and fund the government, the first thing you argue about is how much money is spent on it. and we had that argument. believe me, there are deep disagreements between the republican house, the democratic senate, and the white house on that, but an agreement was reached between speaker john boehner and harry reid on the level of funding. that level of funding, frankly, is vastly lower than democrats want. and we were going to go forward with that until the speaker changed his mind and decided that he wants something else. so if you're wondering why harry reid, the senator, the majority leader in the senate, is upset about this situation, it's in part because he had a deal, the

republicans went back on that deal. it gets worse than that. so instead of simply agreeing to the amount of money that would fund the government, republicans are now saying, no, they want policy changes within the budget in order to fund the government. in order to simply keep it opened and in order to raise the debt ceiling so we can pay our bills. policy changes do occasionally happen within appropriations bills, but only when they are agreed upon between the house, senate, and white house. and the problem that the republicans have and what they have had for three years is they simply do not have the votes to pass the policy changes that they want. because they didn't win the election last time. president obama won the election. democrats controlled the senate, and ironically democrats actually won 52% of the vote for congress but because of gerrymandering, republicans wound up with more seats. however we got here, they do not have the votes to advance the agenda that they want to advance, and they are willing to

shut down the government and stop funding it and not raise our debt ceiling. by the way every day we get closetory that debt ceiling and not raising it is a day that will is bad for this economy. all because they can't pass their policy agenda through the present congress, which raises the interesting question, what is that policy agenda? and that perhaps is the most frustrating thing about this. we heard originally that they didn't pass the continuing resolution to fund the government because they wanted to end obamacare. now editorials have been written by leaders, by the majority leader, mr. cantor, i have heard paul ryan, no. it's not about obamacare. we understand we are not going to get that. ok. so what policy change is it that you want? and this is where you get into the deficit. but again the republicans haven't specified what they want on this. now, we know if you go back through three years of history what they say they want. they want tax reform, though it

hasn't been specified, and they want cuts in entitlements to get us closer to a balanced budget. they are completely unwilling to consider any revenue increases. now, the problem with this is the president doesn't agree. the senate doesn't agree. the deficit is a problem, no question. but democrats believe that part of that solution has to be revenue. and to this point we got $600 billion in revenue as a result of the deal reached last january in exchange for over $2 trillion in cuts. $2 trillion between the cuts that were made in the budget control act of 2011, and the cuts that have now been forced on us by sequestration, $2 trillion in cuts, and $600 billion in tax increases. but be that as it may, the republicans don't have the votes. they don't have support of the president, and they don't have support of the senate to get those cuts. yet they insist on shutting down the government. now, the big problem is what is it that they would want in tax reform and entitlement reform?

this is the thing that i think the american public is unaware of. republicans keep saying that they want entitlement reform. which means cuts in entitlement. they keep saying that they want tax reform. they have been in charge of this house for three years. they have not brought to the floor or passed out of committee any tax reform or any entitlement reform. they put it in their budget, which is just sort of a big picture, list of sort of future objectives, what they want to do, why haven't they passed legislation-r? if they are willing to shut down the government and cause all the pain we have heard because they fervently we need entitlement cuts and tax reform, the least they can do is bring it to the floor and tell us what it is. oddly the president and democrats have put more on the table in terms of reforming our entitlements as part of the affordable care act we made reductions in medicare, which the republicans beat us up for

and which has been responsible for medicare going down in inflation. the only solution to this, tell us what you want and understand how this system works. the pain is too great. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from wisconsin, ms. moore, for five minutes. ms. moore: thank you so much, mr. speaker. i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. moore: thank you so much, mr. speaker. i rise today, mr. speaker, to urge you to turn away from this destructive path of threatening the full faith and credit of the united states government as a means to extort political concessions and to subvert the democratic principle of majority rules. i urge you, mr. speaker, to become the speaker of the house and not spokesperson for a

fringe cult within the g.o.p. caucus. the affordable care act is settled law. in fact, the negotiation for any change to the affordable care act is possible, and perhaps even desirable, under so-called regular order. and that goes for the other rants of demands that the g.o.p. has made. now, of course, the reason for this crisis, the shutdown of the government and the debt crisis, have now shifted from repealing or delaying obamacare to vage 2k3457bds -- vague demands of negotiations. we have seen a laundry list of so-called demands. approval of the keystone pipeline. concessions on payments to social security and medicare and medicaid. tort reform. repeal of job-killing

regulations, that is protections for clean air and clean water. the latest demand is republicans assed a bill to create a super-dooper committee that includes instructions that the committee can only resolve our budget crisis by considering spending cuts and entitlement cuts. but no new revenue. in other words, mr. speaker, you don't really want to negotiate. it's just obvious from your words and deeds, mr. speaker, since you, mr. speaker, have blocked negotiations 18 times over the past year, mr. speaker, you are he' putting the country -- you're putting the country through this shut her down, theater, that you called for in the last republican campaign. in the last cycle.

a nuclear weapon is how warren buffett characterized failure to raise the debt ceiling. let me say that again, the world's most respected financial markets expert compared this now familiar republican tactic as a weapons of mass destruction. a weapon that is, i quote, too horrible to use. . failure by the world's largest borrower to pay its debt, unprecedented in modern history, will devastate stock markets from brazil to zurich, halt the $1 trillion lending mechanism, low up borrowing costs, ravage the dollar and throw the world economies into recession that will likely become a

depression. money managers, economists, bankers and former government officials interviewed for this story. few view default as anything but a financial apocalypse, unquote. yet, mr. speaker, you continue to take default off of the table. meanwhile, even the discussion of default is driving up borrowing costs to the u.s. as investors demand higher yields to buy short-term treasury bonds. short-term costs have doubled and heaven help us if you, mr. speaker, actually drive the u.s. into default. think about this. the $12 trillion of outstanding government debt is 23 times, 23 times the $517 billion lehman owed when its bankruptcy

sparked the 2008 financial crisis. the full faith and credit of the u.s. debt is the collateral for banks, financial contracts and repurchase market throughout the world. the collateral that stands behind global finance and investment. is why we are the world's reserve currency. any default in the u.s. will have very real and extreme serious consequences and trigger a self-inflicted global financial crisis. in my mind, mr. speaker, the full faith and credit of the united states is not open for negotiation. i urge my colleagues to cease as an -- debt ceiling a political tool and vote on a clean c.r. thank you, mr. speaker. and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from texas, ms.

jackson lee, for five minutes. i thank the e: speaker and i ask unanimous consent to address the house for five minutes and offer a good morning to my colleague. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. jackson lee: the gentlelady just expressed the dynamics of could g default, and i not agree more with the horrors of her description. it baffles me, literally baffles me that in actuality we , the ting idly by republican leadership watching rome burn. let me read for you a note that

i got from my district, mr. speaker. no idea of any of you still in office, but this is whether asking my staff is still in office -- but until further notice we have been furloughed effective 9:00 a.m. today. i'll send an email when back in the office, which i hope is soon, especially since the senate has not passed a bill to pay us even if furloughed. who is this? the houston v.a. regional office. isn't it interesting, my friends, rise to the floor of the house with such indignation about the v.a., the v.a. centers and yes, tragically, the devastation of families not receiving their memorial benefits but yet here we are today, another day of the government shutdown, an email into our district offices indicating that the v.a. office

is closed? another emergency call came into my office as a fire ravaged a home of 40 or so veterans. in the ordinary circumstances, they'd have the v.a. office to help resettle them, but we are rolling up our sleeves in houston, and my heage is to those veterans -- message is to those veterans we are going to find you a place to stay. but mr. speaker, the problem is that the v.a. services are shut down while the home of those veterans burned. who are we in this country if we cannot think of those who are lesser than us or who need to be helped with a helping hand? mr. speaker, let me also say to you that while we're in the midst of this shutdown, this republican obsession with the affordable care act, poor people are suffering. there are millions of dollars impacted with the supplemental nutrition assistance program. food lunch program, school lunch program.

poor people need us to open the doors of this congress to raise the minimum wage. today is a day that i'll celebrate and encourage america that the people of this country need to have a minimum wage of $10.10. $10.10. but we can't get any action in this place for the poor people of america. the families, the young families, the young mothers and fathers, the millions of children impacted by head start, some 57,000 seats lost and growing across the nation. poor people who need access to early education, poor people who need both rural and urban, who need to have a minimum wage. mr. speaker, we can't do that because the government is shut down. why is it shut down? has it been a hurricane or has there been an earthquake? is there a volcanic eruption?

is there some other natural disaster? are we under siege from a foreign territory? no. there is an extreme faction in the republican party that -- and what the american people want us to do is to vote now to open the government. they want what the democrats want, to pay the bills. they want us to talk. we've been willing to talk. they want us to cooperate, we've been cooperating. we've agreed to the republican number. we agree to their tax issues and, yes, they want to be obsessed with the affordable care act. they want to take away health benefits from americans, and then the votes they put on the floor of the house. mr. speaker, these are political votes. we'll vote again today. political votes while people are suffering with cancer and the friends of cancer research will tell them a thing or two. their letter says the friends of cancer research, cancer

research think tank, an advocacy organization, that brings people together and stakeholders who've overcome e barriers, standing between patients and treatments, ask us to take a comprehensive approach to fiscal policies. they don't need a piecemeal approach on the house. we need to stop the extreme attitude. we need to recognize the poor people of america, the people of america need this shutdown to stop and the extreme element of the republican party needs to stand down while republicans, 20 of them, and democrats, 200-plus, vote to open the government now. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. jackson lee gentlelady i yield back. -- ms. jackson lee: i yield back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from virginia, mr. connolly, for five minutes. mr. connolly: thank you, mr. speaker.

day 10 of the republican shutdown of the federal government, where are we? well, the consequences are cascading. they build up. $33 million a day in new small business administration loans frozen, preventing small businesses from getting started, preventing small businesses from expanding and hiring new workers. 10,000 applications a day for social security benefits and medicare frozen. veterans' benefits, we've reduced the backlog by 30%. the people who are reducing that backlog furloughed. i had a constituent in my district who lost a loved one at walter reed army hospital. when the funeral home came to collect their loved one for preparation, for his final

burial, there were no doctors for the death certificate because they had been furloughed. this affects every american. sometimes we're not aware of how interwoven federal services are in our lives. we take for granted that the federal government's protecting us from diseases. there's research being done on crash basis to make sure that antibiotic resistant infections don't kill us and our children. it's a real threat. those researchers furloughed. protecting illnesses and invasive species, including deadly species from coming into the united states, at risk because the men and women who's charged with that mission are furloughed. we are now a subject of

conversation all around the world. what happened to america? how can we be a beacon for others? how can we be a model for how to run a country? how can we lecture an emerging democratization for its people when we have this kind of brinksmanship, this kind of spectacle and the danger to our own country and its people? it is reckless. it causes real harm, and the solution is at hand and that is a clean funding bill for the government and a clean debt ceiling to make sure we're good for our debts. we have been good for our debts since the founding of the republic, since alexander hamilton established the credit worthiness of the united states in george washington's first

cabinet. never has there been a risk that we wouldn't be good for our bills. and yet we have one faction on the republican caucus seemingly dominating that conversation on this that side of the aisle, more than willing to embrace the threat of default. almost every major business group has pled with this congress not to do that, not to even play with that. the last time they did in 2011, our debt was downgraded for the first time in american history. $2.4 trillion worth of household wealth was lost, including $800 billion on the equity markets that fell 625 points the next day. it hurt america. it's hurting america now. we can bring up a clean funding bill before the floor of this house tomorrow. today. we got the votes to pass it. it's a matter of republican

leadership. will they allow the democratic process to work in this body on behalf of the country? can we not put aside partisanship just once for the sake of our country and do the right thing and reassure the world we are standing together to do that right thing, protecting the credit worthiness of this country, protecting the american people by providing government and turning our backs on anarchy because that's really what some are preaching? you don't need government. government's always bad. government never works. never doesn't protect you. that philosophy is dangerous, and that philosophy, unfortunately, is at work here in the house of representatives. it's time to turn our backs on that philosophy and embrace the needs of this country and the wonderful people we serve. with that i yield back, mr. chair. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back.

the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from north carolina, ms. foxx, for five minutes. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, earlier this week i received an email from scott, a constituent of the fifth district who lives in boone, north carolina. here's what he had to say. quote, with all of the talk to this point about the effects of the affordable care act, it is just turned into brutal reality for me and my family. i received a letter from blue cross blue shield this week regarding my coverage. all of the promises of if you like your current health coverage you'll be able to keep it, is absolutely untrue. blue cross has dropped my current plan that i was relatively happy with and was expecting to continue using. blue cross will be moving me into a new plan where the cost

is devastating for my family. my monthly premium is more per 55%, $3,816 year, and my out-of-pocket expenses will cost my family an additional $3,650 per year. so call in all i will be paying over $7,000 next year for health insurance and co-payments on top of my already high premiums. i do not qualify for any of the subsidies, either. so this one is all on the back of this middle class family of four. i have a 4-year-old daughter and 2-year-old daughter. i have no choice but to keep them covered any way i can as any father would. but the new outlays of $,466 will be a huge burden. -- $7,466 will be a huge burden. we'll all have to make changes to afford this.

i knew the affordable care act would be tough on someone like myself, but i had no idea how hard it would hit me and my family. mr. speaker, scott is not alone. families across this country are baffled by obamacare sticker shock. accepting the devastating truth that costs will be much higher for them next year, some families are trying to find a way to make it work, but they can't even get to the website. but what do they hear from washington? obamacare apologists say, be patient with us. we'll get these glitches sorted out. it will take a few years and you'll all be used to it. mr. speaker, if only those voices in washington would be willing to give the american people the same time and patience they are demanding. -- patience they are demanding. a bipartisan house majority has asked for families to have one penalty-free year to figure out what obamacare will mean for their families and for their

budgets. one penalty for a year. not unlike the penalty for a year the president gave to big business all on his own. fairness, that's what we have asked for. fairness. that's what senate democrats are refusing to discuss. fairness. that's what the president describes as ransom. i yield back, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from tennessee, mr.on, for five minutes. -- mr. cohen for five minutes. mr. cohen: thank you, mr. speaker. yesterday the president of the united states had the house democratic caucus in the east room for a discussion. today he'll have the republican caucus and he'll also have the democratic senators. mr. speaker, i hope all the republicans go and gauge the president -- engage the president, because the president gave such a clear and convincing argument about why, what's going

on is wrong and has to stop. if the president is told by a majority party -- minority party in one of the houses to get a funding bill passed to fund the government that he has to repeal some act, where does that stop? if we get a continuing resolution, and this one was until december 15, and they asked the president to abolish the landmark legislation that he signed and that this congress passed a few sessions ago, the next thing could be, well, we are not going to continue the government again unless you repeal the e.p.a. or we are not going to do it unless you repeal the fair labor standards act. or maybe six months down the line we are not going to repeal it unless you and vice president biden both resign. you can't give in to these type of tactics to have bills

repealed because of a minority been a minority of one branch of government and not go through the regular order of the house passing, the president passing, the president signing or vetoing, and letting the courts decide which is constitutional which has happened about -- with the affordable care act. the president has made it clear he wants to work with both sides, but he's not going to give in to these type of tactics because it wouldn't be fair. not only for him but the fecks next president and the next president and the united states of america. presidents in the country should not be held ransom by the demands of one group. and the president's standing for the presidency and the country and the constitution. the affordable care act is not going to be repealed and the other party knows that. now they have proposed working on entitlements. and long-time deficit reduction. the president will talk to them, engage in dialogue, and

hopefully after republicans attend and listen to the president today, they will see that this has been a mistake for the american people and a mistake for their political party. and they will end this shutdown, reopen government, pass a continuing resolution, and pass a debt ceiling. even if for only four or six weeks, which the pundits think may happen. it will get us out of this crisis, and hopefully the minority group within the republican caucus will let the republican party continue to be what it had been in the past as a party of business and not a party that was anti-business and threatening a debt ceiling issue and a default on our debt which would be catastrophic to the national markets and world markets. hopefully those six weeks with dialogue with the president and leaders of congress can come to some agreement and we won't have this type of brinksmanship again. the president is a convincing individual.

he's very knowledgeable. he he has great people working with him and he's looking out for the future of this country. this shutdown was totally avoidable. the continuing resolution which will only be until november 15 on the senate side and december 15 n the -- on the house side, accepted the house of representatives budget figures which was the paul ryan budget. paul ryan budget is an anathema term to democrats. we don't like it. it's got cuts to so many services that are important to people in this country. cuts to head start. cuts to snap payments. formerly known as food stamps. cuts to veterans. cuts to programs that help people get through the day. energy programs when it gets cold to help pay your utility bills. these cuts are an anathema to us but we accepted them to keep the government going. the democrats in the senate accepted them, the democrats in the house, the president.

but the house republicans who put that figure out and got accepted, that wasn't enough. they had said, all right, now you've got to repeal, abolish, and/or change to the point of trying to get to abolishment of the most important bill that's been passed in this house of representatives since 1965 when the civil rights act and medicaid and medicare were passed. it's not going to happen. we are the last trillionized -- industrialized country on the face of the earth to have national health insurance. it's the right thing to do. it's folly for governors in the states that haven't allowed the medicaid expansion to go forward to do that, and i hope they would. i hope the republicans come to their senses and we end this shutdown. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california, mr. bera, for five minutes. mr. bera: thank you, mr. speaker. day number 10, mr. speaker,

today is day number 10 of the government shutdown. a totally unnecessary government shutdown. this is a manufactured crisis, mr. speaker. it's time that he we open the government back up. mr. speaker, if our leadership's not able to get together, if the house, senate, and the president are not able to sit at the table, then maybe it's time to turn to rank-and-file members. this morning over 50 of us came together, democrats and republicans, from all over america, from kansas, from new york, from florida, from california. we came together not to fight, but we came together to fix problems. we came together as no labels problem solvers. mr. speaker, we are ready to get america back to work. we are ready to start moving this country forward. we need to start solving problems, mr. speaker. and i would suggest that there is an easy three-step solution

to get the country back on track. mr. speaker, number one, let's open up the government. mr. speaker, number two, let's pay our bills. we have always done that. so let's raise the debt ceiling. number three, let's come together as democrats and republicans, and let's negotiate . let's actually put a real budget together. a budget that starts to address our debt and the deficit. a budget that starts to make sure what we hand off to our children and grandchildren is the same as the country we inherited from our parents and grandparents. a country that thrives. a country that leads the world. we have to get serious about the challenges that we face and we have to stop these manufactured crises. we have to stop the bickering. this is divided government. it means democrats and republicans coming together. mr. speaker, i urge you to join with the no labels problem

solvers and do what our motto is, let's fix problems, not fight. we are ready to go and get america back to work. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule , the chair declares the house

remove the threat of a default while giving washington several weeks to call together a fiscal deal that would fund government, lift the debt ceiling for a longer period of time and enact a number of fiscal reforms. that's from politico this morning. we'll go to calls now and, again, waiting to hear from possible comments from republican house members. maryland, first up, linda is on our democrats' line. caller: hi. i just wanted to express my feelings about what's going on with this shutdown. this is really having a catastrophic affect on me personally in the fact that my creditors, my car note company,

the mortgage company, the gas company, no one cares that i don't have money to pay my bills. my husband's a retired postal worker. he only gets a pension once a month. i was only four days into starting with the government contractor before i was put on the street. so told not to return until the government reopens. this needs to stop. i'm a registered democrat but, u know, right now i think my son's third grade class could act better than the people that we have serving this country in political positions right now. this needs to come to an end or i'm going to lose my home. i'm going to lose my car. i'm going to lose everything. this has to stop. thank you. >> thanks for the call. most of the action and debate

will be off the floor in the house and senate as the president meets with house republicans today, a small group of house republicans, and also senate democrats. we understand that the minority leader, mitch mcconnell, said the senate republicans have been invited to meet with president obama tomorrow. a tweet from rick mays who covers military issues in particular for "military times" but he said the senate is expected to vote on a $1 trillion increase in the current $16.7 trillion debt limit. that would be a cloture vote on that motion to proceed that harry reid has brought forth to the senate floor today. rio rancho, new mexico, go ahead. caller: thank you for talking my call. i was wondering if perhaps it wasn't a criminal act for a small group of republicans or a small group of people to go against the government and cause this problem. is there criminality involved

in this? >> in terms of members of congress? caller: yes. are they allowed to cause problems to the country and cause people harm? >> we'll leave your question open and get others to weigh in on it. manassas, virginia, is next. john is on our republican line. go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. i've been watching c-span and listening to the news for the last 10 days, i'm currently furloughed, and the only thing i've been hearing is just he said this and he did that and it's been a bickering back and forth in the last 10 days with absolutely nothing productive coming out of it. it seems to me if i had not done my job for 10 years i wouldn't have had a job for 10 years, but the primary purpose of congress is to pass an annual budget and, of course, for the president to sign it. . if they don't do their job they should lose their jobs or at least be furloughed. right now it's a waste of time.

that's it. thanks. >> c-span, we are taking your calls waiting to hear possible comments from members of the house, house republicans. they have been meeting since about 10:00 this morning on a proposed six-week deal. we are hearing reports of, anyway, on raising temporarily the debt ceiling. also this morning house democrats were holding their own rally. we'll be covering that. it was planned to be outdoors. i don't know if you can tell in that picture, there we go. it's raining in the nation's capital and it looks like it is still going on. beaver meadows, pennsylvania, is anna on our democrats line. caller: i'd just like to say this whole thing is totally appalling. i have seen school children act better than this. obamacare is here. like it or not. we need a budget. we need to raise the debt ceiling. let's stop taking america hostage at the expense of our people and our country.

let's do our jobs. that's what we put you there for. thank you. >> next up, houston, texas, elizabeth on our others line. caller: yes. i have one thing to say. the government, everybody that works in government, if they got paid minimum wage, just like any other person that goes out there and gets a job, they would go out and try to do something with our nation if they got paid minimum wage just like everybody else does when they are first starting out and not having a big payoff going on with this government shutdown. that's it. thanks. >> phil is in palm harbor, florida. on our republican line. high hi there. caller: good morning. we'll find out about obamacare. and the cleveland clinic is cugget $300 million from its budget. the unions don't like it.

and it's -- we call abuse of power that obama has told his friends that they are exempt and also ben nelson, the state of nebraska and louisiana, they'll be exempt. treating people differently is terrible. but we find out that the costs are going to be extremely high. we have to stop this run away budget debt ceiling. we will never get out of it. the republicans should stand firm. how could anybody not fight the ceiling? we have to keep the budget down. we are spending too much money. it's unbelievable. mr. obama irhow could he be believable when he didn't save four men, the benghazi four, and he went to sleep and they said it was a d.v.d. that's his foreign policy? these people are going to get mad at us. so you don't save the men in

benghazi? just that alone is despicable. there is nothing that comes out of this administration that anybody likes. there was connolly who said that the world is really thinking that america's gone crazy. oh, no. we are not. we are trying to straighten things out for our children, grandchildren, and the democrats -- i just heard one say, let's raise the debt ceiling. let's go bankrupt. too many people have been bankrupt. i live in tampa bay, the area, and we are number six, our regional area is number six in foreclosures. people are suffering they cannot afford to pay. they are losing their jobs. they are losing their minds. they are losing their families. we have to stop this run away inflation and debt ceiling. put an end to it. and obama with his discretionary capital that he has, especially he's had so many of these executive orders, he could pay for those men that died in afghanistan just by writing a

check. >> phil in florida here on c-span for about the next hour. we'll take your comments and calls. the house is coming back at noon. one bill today dealing with funding for border security and votes in the early afternoon. we are also looking at our -- what we call the steakout position outside the meeting of the house republican conference and expecting some comments from members as they leave that meeting. and democrats also rallying on capitol hill this morning. we are expecting some comments from house democratic leaders as well. and again senate democrats will be over at the white house this afternoon. looks like keith ellison from this morning, guest on "washington journal." see if we can listen in to what he has to say. >> yes, it's rainy. we wish it was a little nicer outside, but our commitment to getting this government back opened for the people -- who sacrificed for the american people, our public employees, our commitment is such that

we'll stand out in the rain, in the sun, in the snow, whatever it takes. we are going to be here. we are not going to back down. we are not going to be scared. we are going to fight, is that right. i want to you know that i'm here, proud to be here with my co-chair, mr. grijalva, and we got members of congress here with you in the rain. letting them know that we are not going to back down. i know one thing, do we have nybody from afge in the house? [cheers and applause] >> do we have anybody from afscme in the house. do we have anybody from cwa in the house? come on now, we got anybody from change to win in the house? we got anybody from the treasury employees union in the house? [cheers and applause] >> who else we got? amtrak employees.

we got the american forest service association in the house. we got -- are there any members f congress in the house? let me tell you guys, let me tell you guys, are there voters in the house? make some noise if you vote. we will remember in november, folks. let me tell you, we got to get started here, i just want to let you know one quick thing, we are committed, you are committed. we are not going to back down. we are going to steak with it. the fact is we've got a lot of work to do because as soon as we get this government back opened, and we will, and we will, we got to reverse this 30-year attack on public employees. we got to turn back this 30-year attack on our wages. we got to turn back this 30-year

attack on our right to organize. we cannot back down. we got to be -- because the people who want to ruin our country, they are committed. they are so desperate and so crazy to hurt the public sector they are willing to shut the government down and risk default on our nation's debt which is all wrong. so we got to have more commitment, more fortitude, more persistence than they got. we can't let no rain make us scared. look, everybody, to kick it off, we got somebody who's been kicking it off -- how many years? 50 years, reverend? at least that. i'm going to tell you, 50 years ago reverend jesse jackson was here to march on washington. he was calling america to its better self. he was saying at that time, he was saying we need a march on washington for jobs and justice.

and he's here to tell you something good today, too. reverend jackson, please come on p. we feel liquid sunshine coming down. taking our jobs in the rain. they intend to take them in the snow so we fight back because justice is imperative. i want to make one basic appeal to you. we should all stop today saying obamacare. there is no such law as obamacare. fordable health care act for all. affordable health care act for all. there is no, there is no obamacare. here is obamacares for the american affordable health care act.

the reason that is so important we cannot denigrate ourselves by falling to an attack. bill. s no obama you have people we have seen i am for you staying on insurance. we are for more competition between companies in the states. -- we are not for obamacare. that is a tactic design of language. we are for the affordable health care act. for seniors, for children, for rkers, between jobs, pre-existing conditions, we are fighting for the affordable health care act. no obamacare. affordable health care act. second, my friends, we are looking at an insurrection against our government.

this is the tea party, this is the fort sum ter tea party. --sumter tea party. this is 1860. we have been there. say we have been there. in 1860. we'll beat them in 1860. we'll beat them in 2013. and we'll meet them in 2014. and we will retire them. governors are sending back billions to washington because they won't accept medicaid for poor people. this is not an ordinary battle. they think they are winning. if they can stop the federal default, if they they will, they will, shut down the government, they'll run up into a fiscal crisis because they believe the federal government is the enemy. f they can stop it, make the

government default and their own sick reasoning, they are winning. america's losing. the loss of battle on the field in 1863, the loss of battle at the polls in 2012, they must not take our government. we won't -- we want the mobile health care act. we want to revive the war on poverty. revive a plan that's best for america. provide a plan for student loans. debt forgiveness. this land is our land. afge and the rainbow will march across america, will march in chicago on tuesday, in new york on wednesday, and washington next week. it's time to go to jail to save

the nation. save the nation. save the nation. save nation. keep hope alive. love you. >> jesse jackson, everybody. and now i want to introduce my co-chair, raul grijalva, who will introduce our leader, nancy pelosi. >> thank you very much. we are out here in the rain. and we are out here in the rain as workers and people that care about this country to tell boehner, to tell the extremists in the house of representatives this is a democracy. this is a democracy that needs to work for all of us. give us a vote and let's move on with the nation's problems and with the nation's needs. it's been my pleasure since i got to congress to work with and for the first woman speaker of the house of representatives, to work with and for our leader

that through all the fights, through all the struggles her level of consistency, her level of moral imperative, and her level of leadership has raised the issues that are important for this nation and we have not backed down. and a lot has to go to this woman i'm going to introduce, ur leader, nancy pelosi. >> thank you very much, raul. thank you, and keith for co-chairing this important meeting for us. thank you very much. thank you for continuing the meeting no matter what the weather. no matter what the weather. i'm honored to be here with them, with my colleagues from the house of representatives, and our deputy whip, mr. hoyer, who is here. mr. rangel. to have our leadership come out here to join with you to say

thank you. thank you for what you do for our country, for making sure seniors have their social security checks. that families can put food on the table for their children. and that veterans can get their benefits. the list goes on and on. you make governs possible in america -- governance possible in america. we are grateful to you for that. we are here to join with you to say open up the government. give us a vote, mr. speaker. give us a vote. ive us a vote. >> we the people want a vote. we the people want a vote. we the people want a vote. we the people want a vote. we the people want a vote. >> because there's so many speakers and so much rain, ail be -- just say the following. you are wonderful to turn out

today in all of this weather. as a mom i don't want you staying out here too long. i don't want you to be sick. the same goes for our press who is covering all of this. but your being out here no matter the climate, no matter the weather to speak out, to speak out for working families in america. right now because of what they are doing the small businesses cannot get their loans. there are doubts about all kinds of other things. people being furloughed now. nonprofits are furloughed. the ripple effect of this is not good. we, the democrats in the house of representatives, have been willing, have been willing to give them 200 votes to open up government. give us a vote. give us a vote. give us a vote. give us a vote. give us a vote. give us a vote. ive us a vote. >> now let me tell you, one of

the war heroes we have in our caucus is none other than steny hoyer. steny represents a lot of folks who work for the federal government, but he and nancy are just shoulder to shoulder, arm in arm, leading our caucus to pen up the government. >> every one of you here, every one of you here represents 100,000 who are not here. there are millions of americans wondering why can't we open up the government? ladies and gentlemen, we cannot stop the rain, but we can stop he shutdown. we cannot stop the rain, but 218 people can stop the shutdown. we cannot stop the rain, but john boehner can stop the shutdown.

we need to put the people of this government back to work. god bless you. godspeed. eep on keeping on. >> we want to work. we want to work. we want to work. we want to work. we want to work. we want to work. we want to work. we want to work. we want to work. >> let me introduce the from the of afge, who beginning president cox has been at the lead, at the point to push this congress to do what is right for workers and to do what is right for this nation. it's my pleasure to introduce afge, mr. cox.he sir.

>> good morning, brothers and sisters. first i want to thank, i want to thank the true leaders of the united states congress that's out there believes that government is good and government supplies great services to the american people. and they show up today, these people know how to lead. we've got other people that's running and ducking from leadership. you know what? want the speaker of the house to -- i want a speaker of the house that knows how to lead. brothers and sisters, here we are on day 10, 10 days of crazy irresponsible nonsense bull crap. 10 days of people having to go to work without a paycheck. 10 days of people locked out of their jobs, prevented from doing the work the american people hired them to do. 10 days that the house of representatives holding our tax

dollars hostage. afge is the voice of over 650,000 dedicated federal and d.c. government workers. half of our members are out there without a paycheck, and the other half are being forced to work without a paycheck. but each and every one of us, 100% of us, want to serve the american people. we want a clean c.r. passed now. right now. like all of you i listened to the house leadership and their calls for negotiation. ordinarily unions like to negotiate. we'd like to negotiate to end the sequestration. we'd like to negotiate to -- a fair tax system that makes the wealthy corporation pay their fair share. we'd like to negotiate all kind of policies that will improve life for working class people and improve the federal

government. but we are not demanding anybody shut the government down. or risk the full faith and credit of the united states government just to prove a point. no. hell no. we would never do that. all we want is a clean c.r. now. a clean c.r. now. brothers and sisters, i want my people to be able to go to work. tell speaker boehner, let me people go to work. service the american people. quit taking us all hostage. brothers and sisters, they are not just taking us hostage, they are taking veterans. who have laid en down their lives to service us. they are lockeding them out of filing vet advance chains. they are locking miners and taking miners hostage because we don't have safety enforcement. brothers and sisters, airplanes

are not being inspected. the safety of the american public is at risk. i say today, let my people go to work. let afge members go to work. service the american people. we want to go to work, we want to go to work. we want to go to work right now. thank you, brothers and sisters. >> house democrats rallying outside the capitol. we continue coverage online live at c-span.org. we are waiting inside the capital for comments from house republican leaders, in particular speaker boehner, the conference has been meeting this morning on a reported six-week extension of the debt ceiling package which will be likely revealed with comments from republican leaders. we'll continue taking your calls and comments. then show you their news conference live when that happens. the house coming back in for legislative work at noon with just one bill on the agenda, funding border security. donna's waiting on the line our

democrats line, summerville, massachusetts. go ahead. caller: yeah, this is donna. back in 2010 when the people, when the american people, those red states, have voted for those republicans and extremist republican tea parties, and they are to blame for this government shutdown. and i can hold the american it'se responsible, because the american people's fault they voted for those republicans and tea party movement back in 2010. and they know people want to get back to work. it looks like the republicans in those party in 2014, republicans and tea party extremists are going to be cleaned out. >> let's go there. leaders are coming out.

we'll listen to their comments. live congress here on -- coverage here on c-span. >> good morning, everyone. we are 10 days into the

government shutdown. and just today the president has invited the house republicans to have a discussion about the way forward. we are hopeful, we are hopeful this is the beginning of a meaningful dialogue with the president about the important issues that face this country. we are hopeful that these will be good faith negotiations over the long-term debt drivers, drivers of our debt. over our -- the security we need for this country, as well as the pressing need to open up this government again. that's why we are going to offer a islation that will offer temporary increase in the debt ceiling to allow us some time to continue this conversation, because it is time for solutions. the democrats' unwillingness to have this conversation has actually resulted in a delay and

ongoing government shutdown. it's hurting the american people. it's gone on too long. we hope that the president will choose negotiation over crisis. leadership over inaction. and dialogue over silence. it's time to solve our problems. >> the president is fond ever saying that no one gets everything they want in a negotiation. and frankly, i agree with that. nobody gets everything they want. but over the course of the last 10 days we have been trying to have conversations with our democrat colleagues. they don't want to talk. the president doesn't want to talk. we have tried to offer bills that would reopen parts of the government only to have them rejected by our counterparts over in the united states senate. so what we want to do is offer the president today the ability to move a temporary increase in the debt ceiling in agreement to go to conference on the budget

for his willingness to sit down and discuss with us a way forward to reopen the government and to start to deal with america's pressing problems. it's time for leadership. it's time for these negotiations and this conversation to begin. i would hope that the president will look at this as an opportunity and good faith effort on our part to move halfway, halfway to what he's demanded in order to have these conversations begin. >> the american people expect both sides to sit down and work out their differences when you're operating in divided government. so i'm pleased today that we have had an invitation from the white house to actually begin to do that. and we have seen now for 10 days a government shutdown. it's not what we asked for. it is what was the result of the two parties not being able to sit down and talk. and there is very little time

left. we cannot waste any more time. and what we have discussed as a conference is a temporary extension of the debt ceiling in exchange for a real commitment by this president and the senate majority leader to sit down and talk about the pressing problems that are facing all the american people, and that includes a broad array of issues. we look forward to that happening. if you look throughout history, presidents who have governed in a divided government have all sat down and talked with the other side. it's about time this is happening. >> i'm very hopeful for today. this is something that republicans have been waiting quite some time for. we never wanted a shut down. that's why our very last bill said let's go to conference. that door has always been opened and we are thankful the president is willing to talk today. we are coming there with an idea

of working together. we are coming there to find common ground. to find common ground that will deal with these economic drivers that harm the economy. the drivers that continue to add debt. so when we make an offer today for a temporary extension, we are looking for a structure that puts us on a path to get a budget, to take care of the debt, and move this economy in a stronger position and have all america win. a little common sense for the rest of the country. >> i'll take a couple questions. >> now that you're undertaking this plan on the debt ceiling, what do you need in order to reopen the full government? >> that's a conversation we are going to have with the president today. i don't want to put anything on the table. i don't want to take anything off the table. that's why we want to have this conversation. >> agreement that will prevent us from -- >> you could end up back in the same place and we don't want to

be there. i think the president wants to deal with america's pressing problems just as much as we do. but in order to deal with these pressing problems we've got to sit down and have a conversation that leads to a negotiation that begins to solve these problems for the fuhr and for, frankly, our kids and grandkids. -- future and for, frankly, our kids and grandkids. >> will you reopen the government if the president doesn't do anything to change obamacare? candies anduts were nuts, every day would be christmas. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> the house republican conference met this morning and discuss add temporary increase in the debt ceiling. a small group of house republicans will meet with president obama at the white house this afternoon. but ahead of that meeting the white house is also reacted to

the idea of a temporary six-week increase in the debt ceiling. part of their statement reads, it is better for economic certainty for congress to take the threat of default off the table as long as possible, which is why we support senate democrats' efforts. >> harry reid, the majority leader, has brought that up on to the senate floor, a motion to proceed to that legislation, and that is being discussed on the senate floor with possible votes. possible vote on cloture on that proposal on saturday in the senate. here on c-span until noon eastern we'll continue to take your calls, reaction to what you're hearing from house republicans. here are the numbers. 202-585-3885 for republicans. democrats, it's 202-585-3886. independents and others, 202-585-3887. the house comes back at noon and they take up one bill today. that is the bill for border

security. then again that small group of house republicans heading to the white house to meet with president obama. some reporting on that conference meeting this morning, a tweet from russell berman of the hill, he says that members say, speaker boehner would appoint conferees for a full-year budget as part of a plan. something democrats have demanded for months. also from frank thorpe, producer for nbc talking about schedule ahead. saturday the house is set to come in saturday. house leadership already warning of a possible weekend session next weekend. they are already in this weekend. and one more here from john of buzz feed, he says representative labrador also says he's backing the six-week debt plan he brought to eric cantor a few days ago. gary from sandwich, illinois, on the republican line. go ahead. caller: yes, sir. thanks for having me on. i was just listening to boehner and nancy pelosi before that. and i'm a veteran.

i fought for the freedoms that we enjoy in this country, and it just seems to me like both sides -- i called in on the republican side, but both sides are acting like a bunch of babies. pointing the finger back and forth at each other. if the republicans, if the house is giving the bills to the senate, don't sit on them. if republicans want to piecemeal the government back to working again, take what they can get. vote is on them. get it back piece by piece. pretty soon they are going to run out of little pieces to that puzzle and the government will be running again. but everybody's pride needs to be put away. this is not a time for pride. it wasn't my time for pride when i fought or any other veteran over there. i mean the big thing is, get the government back working. if it comes in piece, great. if it comes in the whole thing, great. but it get it back working, put

your pride wavement >> one ever those piece that is passed yesterday was the partial funding bill for the f.a.a. today. the house will take up a bill onboarder security today. alex in eugene, oregon, democrats line. caller: hi. thank you for having me on here. i just want to point out that the reason the president and the other democrats have not -- have said they are not willing to negotiate with the republicans is not because they don't want to negotiate. they are not negotiating just to be stubborn. they don't want to give the republicans a precedent of being able to use closing the government as a way to get what they want. there's a reason that they only have a majority in the house. and that's because they, through the districts, they set the whole thing up. they don't have a majority in the senate. there is a democratic president.

i don't -- i think they realize this and they don't care. they are trying to get what they want. they are not going to do it. now they are just being desperate. that's all i have to say. >> here's lexington, north carolina, mark on the others line. hello. mark in lexington, north carolina. hi. caller: yes. thank you for having me. i'm a disabled veteran and this annex of washington den. what i'm trying to say is we have a continuing problem that's been going on for a long time. and it's gone from one side to the other. what am i to do when i can't pay my bills? do i write bad checks or tell my disabled wife i can't afford her medications anymore? she's sick and on disability,

too. just like i am. i fought for my country and i'm disabled, too. this is something both sides are going to have to get together and work on or we are going to fall in the hole. >> republican line, tampa, florida. good morning. caller: good morning. >> go ahead with your comment. >> thank you for taking my call. ok. my only concern right now, my oncern right now i am -- the only thing i have right now and i just have my stock. i already took care of my house 30 years ago. and i filed chapter 13. -- have any paycheck,

so how am i going to live? >> appreciate the call. caller: thank you for -- >> appreciate your call. we'll continue taking your calls for the next 15 minutes or so. news from the associated press earlier today, the tweet breaking dow jones industrial average rises 200 points as investors hope for u.s. budget resolution. "new york times" front page piece this morning, writing about business groups concerned about a lack of sway within the republican party. they write this morning that the chamber spent -- chamber of commerce spent more than $32 million in the 2012 election, nearly all of it backing republicans. similarly the american bankers association said 80% of its $2.6 million in political action donations to republicans in the last election cycle compared with 58% in 2008.

now the group's president, frank keating a former republican governor from oklahoma, is among those lamenting congress' failure to achieve a deal to avert default. today he will testify before the senate banking committee, quote, that ordinary americans will bear the brunt of damage if our leaders do not prehaven't the united states from this defaulting on its debt for the first time in history. and that's according to an advanced copy of his remarks. that hearing is under way. you can follow that son our companion network, c-span3. you hear on a tweet from diva saying no matter what the business community things thinks, the tea party will grow. i think they are here to stay. also from karen, she says if treasury secretary lew sounds good but not being honest, president obama will decide if we will default or not. not congress. he should negotiate. crystal in stanford, connecticut. democrats line. caller: yes. hi five to democrats because the

bottom line is, thisous has given us more strength toward some republican votes. as far as the shut down, boehner is definitely -- he's just acting like a little stubborn kid. and the real gist of it is we are looking bad to other countries. we need other countries to support us in case of wars and other things. all of these things are going to make people not sure of our country. and our country has always been looked at as a strong, well developed, secure, and fall of this tv and -- everyone knows tv is the way to talk to everyone. everyone's living room. if anyone believes that other countries aren't seeing the instability of the united states, this is ridiculous. bottom line, boehner needs to sit down and he has -- we voted obama for a reason.

we have to respect at least some of his decisions. for boehner to do this not just between he and obama or republicans and democrats, we have to visually look at how other countries are looking at us because we need other countries' support in times of war or threat or anything. therefore someone needs to wake up. and nothing can grow unless we support it. just like grass doesn't grow without water, tea parties can't grow, republicans can't grow if people vote democrat. >> this weekend we'll see a gathering of other countries, finance ministers from other countries at the world bank and international monetary fund have their annual meetings in washington. treasury secretary jack lew will be attending those meetings. following his testimony this morning on capitol hill before the senate finance committee on the impending debt ceiling. we'll show that to you later in our schedule. you can see that in our video lay brarery, c-span.org.

patricia in northeast, maryland. republican line. caller: hi. thank you very much for accepting my call. i just want-- the comment that i think it's really pitiful that the congress and senate and the president cannot get along. it's the people you need to be concerned about. we have got to stop spending money. stop sending our money out of this country. take care of our own for god's sake. our veterans are very important to us. they are the ones who supported us in time of need. i'm a government worker, let me tell you s. if i get furloughed i have no income. i'm a single person trying to keep myself going, and if i have no income, who is going to pay my bills? if i file bankruptcy, who is going to pay my bills? that's what it will bring it down to for me. >> are you working full-time? caller: yes. right now only by the grace of god. prom and the senate and the

congress. i'm sick and tired of saying you got to do what i want because i said. and you have to do what i want because i said. this is about the people of the united states. if the government, meaning the congress, president, went without money, they would feel the impact. >> reaction on twitter. thanks for the call. shan says, debt default would be a financial catastrophe of epic proportions. why are so conservatives so wrong about that? has voodoo economics been replaced by do do economics? fix the budget which will resolve the debt ceiling crisis. and millie, we can't govern crisis to crisis. this is exactly how obama governs, fear mongering all the way. the #is c-spanchat. rachel in new york. democratic caller. rachel. caller: hello. thank you. 'm sorry i'm sick.

i don't understand what's going on here. why isn't anyone standing up and say the debt we have is because of two wars. of mass the weapons destruction? we haven't found them yet, right? made this mess. why don't we hold him responsible? the republicans, they voted for it. my husband and i both have two degrees. we cannot get employment. we have four children. we are going broke. we could lose our house. we have no money. we are on w.i.c. and we are on food stamps, and liheap. and we are going to lose everything. and i didn't do anything wrong. i didn't -- why am i being held

accountable? they take vacations. they have everything they want. i don't have anything. i am broke. >> go to our others line. ohio, carol. hello. caller: hello. this is carol. thank you for taking my call. i feel that they have a lot of problems with their budget. why are they still paying people that are no longer in office? if they would quit paying people that's no longer in office, they might be able to get a balanced budget. >> you mean like congressional pensions or something like that? caller: i don't mean pensions. i mean past presidents and past congressmen and past senators and all of this still get their pay after they are no longer in office. >> let's hear from alvin in midwestfield, mass marks republican caller.

alvin? caller: yes, i am. >> make sure you mute your television. caller: ok. so what are they doing now? i'm handicapped. i get a set fee. i pay bills here. you're not going to pay bills? >> more of your calls coming up. the house is in coming in about 15 minutes or so. they'll take up one bill dealing with border security funding. votes in the early afternoon. the news of this morning is from the republican conference. here's nbc's' report on it. their tweet. g.o.p. to offer short-term debt limit extension in hopes of jump-starting fiscal talks with president obama. the conference met this morning beginning at about 10:00 eastern. and about 20 minutes ago we heard from house republican leaders.

>> good morning, everyone. we are 10 days into the government shutdown, and just today the president has invited the house republicans to have a discussion about the way forward. we are hopeful, we are hopeful that this is the beginning of a meaningful dialogue with the president. about the important issues that face this country. we are hopeful that these will be good faith negotiations over the long-term debt drivers, the drivers of our debt, over our securities that we need for this contry, as well as the pressing need to ep up -- open up this government again. that's why we are going to offer legislation that will offer a temporary increase in the debt

ceiling to allow us some time to continue this conversation, because it is time for solutions. the democrats' unwillingness to have this conversation has actually resulted in a delay, an ongoing government shutdown. it's hurting the american people. it's gone on too long. we hope that the president will choose negotiation over crisis. leadership over inaction. and dialogue over silence. it's time to solve our problems. >> the president is fond of saying that no one gets everything they want in a negotiation. and frankly i agree with that. nobody gets everything they want. but over the course of the last 10 days we have been trying to have conversation was our democrat colleagues. they don't want to talk. the president doesn't want to talk. we have tried to offer bills that would reopen parts of the government, only to have them

rejected by our counterparts over in the united states senate. so what we want to do is offer the president today the ability to move a temporary increase in the debt ceiling in agreement to go to conference on the budget for his willingness to sit down and discuss with us a way forward, reopen the government, and to start to deal with america's pressing problems. listen, it's time for leadership. it's time for these negotiations and this conversation to begin. and i would hope that the president will look at this as an opportunity and good faith effort on our part to move halfway, halfway to what he's demanded, in order to have these conversations begin. >> the american people expect both sides to sit down and work out their kitchenses when you're operating in divided government. -- differences when you're operating in divided government. i'm pleased today we had an

invitation from the white house to begin to do that. and we have seen now for 10 days a government shutdown. it's not what we asked for. it is what was the result of the two parties not being able to sit down and talk. and there is very little time left. we cannot waste any more time. and what we have discussed in the conference is a temporary extension of the debt ceiling in exchange for a real commitment by this president and the senate majority leader to sit down and talk about the pressing problems that are facing all the american people. and that includes a broad away of issues. we look forward to -- array of issues. we look forward to that happening. if you look throughout histry, presidents who have governed in a divided government have all sat down and talked with the other side. it's about time this is happening. >> i'm very hopeful for today. this is something that

republicans have been waiting quite some time for. we never wanted to shut down. that's why our very last bill said let's go to conference. that bill has always been opened and we are thankful the president is willing to talk today. we are coming there with an idea of working together. we are coming there to find common ground. to find common ground that will deal with these economic drivers that harm the economy. the drivers that continue to add debt. so when we make an offer today for an temporary extension, we are looking for a structure that puts us on a path to get a budget, to take care of the debt, and move this economy in a stronger position and have all america win. a little common sense for the rest of the country. >> i'll take a couple of questions. >> mr. speaker, now that you undertaking this plan on the debt ceiling, what do you need in order to reopen the whole government? >> that's a conversation we'll have with the president today. i don't want to put anything on

the table, i don't want to take anything off the table. that's why we want to have this conversation. >> mr. speaker, that will prevent us from -- >> clearly you could end up back in the same place and we don't want to be there. i think the president wants to deal with america's pressing problems just as much as we do. but in order to deal with these pressing problems, we've got to sit down and have a conversation that leads to a negotiation that begins to solve these problems for the future and for, frankly, our kids and grandkids. >> when you reopen the government if the president doesn't agree to do anything to change obamacare? >> if ands and buts were candies and nuts, every day would be christmas. >> house republican leaders after their conference meeting

this morning. that briefing from about a half-hour ago talking about their proposal for a temporary increase in the debt ceiling. and a number of them, a dozen or dozen and a half will be at the white house later today meeting with president obama. senate democrats as well. senate republicans will meet with the president tomorrow morning at 11:15. the white house already reacting to the house republican proposal saying in a statement in part saying, it's better for economic certainty for congress to take the threat of default off the table for as long as possible, which is why we support the senate democrats' effort to raise the debt limit for a year with no extraneous political strings attached. we are likely to hear much more about this coming up at the briefing which is scheduled for noon eastern. we'll have that live for you on c-span.org. here on c-span, we are waiting for the house to come back in at noon eastern. they have one bill today, that is a funding bill for border security. so we'll continue with your phone calls up until noon eastern. kathy in virginia on the others

line. go ahead. caller: hi, yes. i'm sorry but it feels like the president is a puppet. other people is pulling his strings. one time he'll say this and next time wish washy goes that way. i'm sorry, i don't have any respect for a man who can't take -- he make a decision and it goes wrong, he needs to take responsibility. this president does not he's always i, i, i, i listen to the other democratic callers coming in, it's like me, me, me. and bush, i'm soarry, bush hasn't been president for five years. when is obama going to take respond for his own actions? why is he sitting there making so mean spirit by closing things that really don't need to be closed because it don't even have walls. people can walk into the memorials, world war ii memorial. you don't need nobody there. people can walk up to the lincoln memorial. they don't need anybody there.

we have jefferson plantation up here in virginia where the government does not mean put one dime to it, but obama and the white house, they done close the park because they have the rights to the parking lot. >> that's a federal piece of property, kathy? >> yeah. why do you need to close a parking lot? just because government has the right to the parking lot because it's federal property. >> let's go to our democrats line, carol is next in princeton, indiana. caller: yes. i would like to say first of all it is the job of the congress to make the budget. it is not obama's job to do that. he can pass it, of course, or he can veto, or whatever. but it is the job of the congress to make the budget. and i also want to say that harry reid and mr. boehner have

a conversation about the budget and reid was having a hard time getting the democrats to go along with this low budget, the sequester budget, that boehner said he would get through. so boehner did not get through that budget, and so i think that he needs to get the shutdown finished by having a vote in the house of representatives on the senate budget. i also want to say that adam smith of washington said it very plainly and very concisely that the last time we almost had a shutdown -- shut down, $2 trillion in cuts were given by the democrats and only $600 billion in tax revenues were

raised. so i think that we need to get the government opened before we ven talk about the debt limit. because that will fall into place. >> the house coming in this morning, at noon eastern. about five minutes away. taking up one bill today on funding for border security. the republican conference meeting this morning. coming up with plan, offering a plan for a six-week extension of the debt ceiling. some reaction, the financial times on their webpage this morning, the headline, stops rise on boehner budget proposal. republican speaker ready to offer short-term debt limit deal. again, republicans -- some house republicans will be meeting with the president later this afternoon. and we'll have cameras at the white house and cover any comments there at the white house, too, later today. new york, christopher on the republican line.

good morning. caller: good morning. nice to talk to you. i have been watching the news and everything back and forth, back and forth, one of the biggest things i'm concerned, i'm a disabled veteran. nd i have no -- i depend on my disability. with everything going on, i'm having a hard time figuring out why is it legal for you guys to -- not you guys personally, but for the government to act in treason or terrorize the people because it's putting fear in a lot of us of what's going on and what's going to happen. i don't know -- if i were to go off and cause treason and terrorist acts, i would be put in jail. but the government can throw treason and terrorist on us, and we don't know where we're standing. we got thousands of people sitting here and don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. don't know if we are going to be able to feed our kids. then this whole time we don't know if there's going to be

another act forward. >> i don't have an answer for your question. just a reminder c-span is not in any way funded by the government. we are entirely financed by our cable viewers and cable industry. thanks for your call. john is in maryland on the others line. hi. caller: good morning. how you doing. >> fine. caller: you just wanted to make some comment. i'm a federal employee who is currently furloughed. 29 years. made a lot of sacrifice was this job. moving my family around the country. made a lot of foreign trips. i've been in some pretty tough places, and this is the kind of thanks that we get as federal employees. i'm kind of tired, i think most federal employees are, being used as pawns in these political games. i'm tired i have been watching c-span, i'm watching the republican talking heads and the democratic talking heads. blaming each other. they both say they want to reopen the government yet there is no action. i have tried calling my

representative, i have called senator boehner's office. i called my maryland congresspeople. asking them who is going to pay my bill this month? i have a mortgage. i have car payments. i have student loans for my children i'm trying to pay off. who is going to pay my bills this month when time comes due? i have gotten no response from them. i have had it. these people need to open up the government and then sit down and significant fig out what they are doing. but i'm really getting tired of this kind of bickering back and forth and no action. it's time to stop. >> john gets the last word for this go-round. the house is coming in momentarily. we'll open up our phone lines later as they are expected just one round of votes today. they are taking up a bill dealing with border security funding. one of these piecemeal bills. the house will vote early this afternoon, sometimes between 1 and 1:30. we'll hear from you again. the house republicans, a group of house republicans meeting with president obama later this

afternoon. also senate democrats. so the senate is in how you -- now. they'll gavel out 1:00 eastern so senators can attend that meeting. of course you can watch the senate over on c-span2. we understand also that senate republicans will be meeting with the president tomorrow morning. now live to the house floor here on c-span. the speaker: the house will be in order. the prayer will be offered today by our guest chaplain, reverend guillermo. king jesus international ministry, miami, florida. the chaplain: our father in heaven, we come together in this house of the congress to exult your holy name. thanking you for the rights and freedom you have given us. we ask you for your wisdom to