making this $40 million cut robbing poor while s of food, even continuing to dole out twice as in crop million subsidies. that's taxpayer dollars to some of the nation's wealthiest and agribusiness. in the crop insurance program, there that is the inequity we are talking about here. condemnationbe a of what this house majority is trying to do to the hunger and nutrition program. it has been near universal. nutrition, home us, seniors, health care, even republican have announced their

opposition to this plan. let's understand -- well the gentleman yield another minute? two minutes? >> the gentlelady is recognized for two more minutes. what therecognize majority is suggesting. what does it mean in terms of our children? households of these that receives benefits have children under the age of 18. are fourchildren that years old and under. damage thatthe hunger does to children is irreparable. if they go to school hungry, they cannot learn. if they cannot learn, they cannot succeed.

i only ask my colleagues to read the data. read the report in the lansing journal in the last week or so that tells you what the scientific data is, that shows what the impact of hunger is on children's brains. and their ability to learn. learning period for children is from zero to three. why would we do harm to children in this nation by cutting off food that the u.s. has a great anddance and overabundance yet we want to cut $40 billion from the food stamp program? it is reckless and extreme.

if theo my colleagues farm programs are being authorized for five years, the nutrition program should be reauthorized for five years. ,ust like they have in the past like the coalition that has come together from all over the country, region by region, onecrats and republicans, unified farm bill, i urge my colleagues to go in this direction. i yield back the balance of my time. >> the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from minnesota is recognized. >> i yield two minutes. >> the gentleman from new jersey is recognized for two minutes. >> i thank the gentleman. i went to comment on the remarks from our colleague in connecticut. children's health is in jeopardy. benefits,extend the

as well to fully fund and not cut the program. she returned to an article in a medical journal. allow me a quote from that. ny studies show positive -- from socks -- snacks. 9 have bettere 5- economic outcomes than nonparticipating families. the program was implemented county by county, thus allowing for comparison across counties that differed only by staff availability. increase a significant in means birth rate.

that is an important measure. rate comparedth with the counties where snacks were not available -- they were less likely to have a syndrome. in other words, ill health such as diabetes and so forth. these are children who have the benefit of snacks. as a dull, they were healthier. -- as adults, they were healthier. received food stamps during early childhood were more likely to be economically self-sufficient." this seems to be a very important point. the societal benefits of food --mps extends recognized.eman is

>> the benefits lasted for years. even into the next generation. why would we consider reducing support for such an important, humane, and economically an official program? i yield back. >> the gentleman yields back. >> i do not believe i have any additional speakers. i say to my colleagues -- >> i would make a comment or two. >> the gentleman from minnesota reserves. the d min from oklahoma is recognized. -- the gentleman from oklahoma is recognized. there were points debated and

discussed on the floor and in the committee. i respect the sincerity of all of my colleagues. motion to remember this as to key, central points. in 1949 remain8 permanent that we take away the conference ability to negotiate that point with the u.s. senate. take it away. take it off the table. that was the goal of this motion . point of course deals with the authorization on -- should it be three years or five years? that is a question that has to be decided. do you take away the ability to have the option of making whatever we can all agree on?

do you insist that we continue runave the food program concurrent with the rest of the farm bill? it is a simple set of issues to consider. asked therspective, i house to allow the conference committee as much flexibility as possible in negotiating with the other body. as much flexibility as possible. that would require rejecting the motion. thank you to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. i look forward to the joyce of hopefully not quite as challenging conference as missed first two years of the process has been. we need to get our work done in a timely fashion. i yield back the balance of my time. >> the gentleman yields back. speaker, we have had a

way to deal with this for the last 40 some years it has worked pretty well. mistake asis a big most of groups involved in the farm bill, it is a mistake to eliminate permanent law and to have a situation where one part of that bill is authorized for a friend length of time than the other. people have been involved in this for a long time think it is a mistake. i think it is a mistake. i asked the college to support this. i yield back. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] caucushouse democratic met today. afterwards, the caucus chair becerra and vice chair crowley spoke to reporters. >> we have a vote, so we will go

ahead and start now. i'm pleased to be joined by our .ice chairman joe crowley we concluded another caucus meeting. in the democratic caucus, there is a sense that navy now we will see some movement. we will be given a chance to do our job and given a chance to vote to put americans back to work by letting our government reopen. we hope that we will avoid damaging our economy by not obligations,st obligations that both sides voted for in previous budget votes. we hope that this is a sign perhaps from yesterday's meeting perhaps republicans met with the president that house republicans

are prepared to try to get our and ourmoving government doors open so americans and more than 800,000 people can go back to work. we are interested in listening to americans from all walks of life. i suspect a lot of our republican colleagues were listening. there is the growing fear that republicans might actually let the government default on its past debt. each andping that every member of congress will listen to main street. there are a lot of folks from main street who were speaking loudly as well. longer have the business it had before. many workers are not able to work. ineard from a constituent nikon home. they worked for the housing department in los angeles.

he says he has been unable to return to work since october 1. i heard from someone who was a friend from los angeles. she recently discovered she is a victim of identity theft. woman who is middle class. she is going about her life. she find out someone has written off her identity and is taking full advantage of her financials. she tried to contact the different government agencies to start the reporting process so she does not have to worry about her credit rating going down further and losing money from the bank account. she cannot get through. there is the government shutdown. right now there are folks who becauseen advantage of of this republican shutdown of our government. we are hoping we can get this country moving again and get the house and back to work. we are hoping we do not have to

watch the stores of our veterans and wondering if they will get their services and whether children will be able to get into this head start programs and whether seniors will have to worry about having access to programs like meals on wheels. will work.nment maybe congress will show up. maybe this time our house revoking colleagues will say, it is time to put america back to work and for congress to be given a chance to vote to reopen the doors of government and make sure that we do not default on our nation's debt. we are hopeful. we're waiting to see how the conversation between the president and senate republicans go. we are hopeful that this is finally a day when we have had progress for the american people . i will yield to our vice chairman, joe crowley. >> thank you. ins will join becerra recognizing and appreciating that maybe there are some public

and to understand how catastrophic it to it be for us to default on our nation's debt. the extension that they are talking about is a short-term extension, possibly only six weeks. we need a longer-term extension of the debt ceiling for the health of our economy and for certainty, for economic constituents. our we need to provide certainty in this uncertain world that we live in. constituents wake up everyday and they have to continue to pay taxes. they continued to get less service. it is about reopening the government and getting it up again and working for the american people. that is a challenge to republicans have not met and

still do not seem to recognize how much damage they are doing every day. we need to shut down the a long-term pass debt ceiling relief bill and get government working for the taxpayers once again. are you concerned about the short-term -- how about the tax repeal? will i said before and i say it again, the affordable care act was legislated and litigated. there was a national election that took place in which president obama was reelected. the american people have spoken. they want the opportunity to have a chance. -- it willthat once provide for the first time assurance for millions of americans. is that what my republican

colleagues are afraid of? denying coverage to individuals who haven't had the opportunity? we say, no. we recognize the importance of this bill, this action, this bill. -- law. >> what if it comes back to you on a c.r.? >> shutting down the united states government, threatening default on the national debt, it has come down to one small particular aspect of the affordable care act? really? thehat will be shut government down for? i think americans are scratching their heads if that is what it is all about. >> what is it about? >> you have to asked republicans about that at this point. that is clear. they are threatening to default on the national debt. that is clear. , it wasnd of the day

legislation that was litigated an election that took lace. american people spoke. move on. reopen government. have an opportunity to amend and fix the affordable care act. during today's caucus meeting, did you talk about what could be given in a deal? chained cpi? any concern that there were some deal breakers? or focus has continued beyond topening the doors government and make sure we do not take this catastrophic fall for political reasons.

we cannot stop paying our previous obligations. american people rely on student loans and mortgages and loans to live their lives. our main concern. let's not tinker with the american economy. let's not toy with american workers livelihood. let's get that out of the way. and we can sit down and talk about anything and everything. we have proven that we are ready to move in fiscally responsible ways. we have seen substantial decreases in spending over the last 2-3 years. we have continued to see a precipitous drop in the size of the deficit as a result of some of the actions of the president. we hope to continue to see that progress.

millions of americans have regained employment. we want to have that number dramatically. we know there are a lot americans who are suffering. democrats are first and foremost focused on telling our colleagues that the president has told them to stop tinkering with the economy. stop playing with american workers lives. reopen the government. let sit down and talk seriously. will make you hopeful this might end soon? is obama insisting that the c.r. be clean? republicans insisting something be attached to the c.r.? how is this going to break down? we are hopeful because the lives of millions and millions of americans will be

substantially improved if government begins to operate again. -- further uncertainty we have to get this done. we have to pay our national debt. that is a fact. the latter would be catastrophic. that the american people have the patience, but it is beginning to wane. looking at one indicator and not an entire indicator, but wall street itself, has become very of this tactic.

the democrats have done this in the past. we would be lambasted by the far right and by folks on wall street. there is a double standard to some degree. we need to get this accomplishment regardless of that. it is in the interest of the american people. do you stare at each other or is it actually tactical? >> we'll answer that question later. we have to go vote. we know that there are enough democrats and republicans to reopen the doors of government and put a hundred thousand americans back to work. there are enough votes right now on house of representatives to make sure we do not go over the cliff and allow our government debt andt on old

promises. if you're optimistic, it is because we know the votes exist. some point, it is is not through sheer force of republicans who want to vote, perhaps the the sheer force of the american people talking to republicans and those who resisted a clean vote on the house floor. we will get there. we felt confident the public will send a clear message to all of us in washington, d.c. get back to work. let us continue to see the economy improve. thank you for being here. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] today's white house briefing with jay carney. he commented on obama's conversation with house speaker boehner on ending the shutdown and raising the debt ceiling. obama has held meetings over the past few days with both house and senate republicans.

the briefing was about an hour. >> good afternoon, everyone. thank you for being here. thank you for your patience. it has been a long afternoon. make sure that before i came out, i could provide you with as much updated information as possible. i do not have an opening statement to make. in the interest of moving us along, i will astray to questions. [laughter] i can answer some of your questions. is the kind of information i hope to be responsive to your questions, at least in part. julie. >> can you tell us what the

president and john boehner said in the phone call? >> yes. the president spoke with the speaker of the house this afternoon not long ago. they had a good conversation. the two of them agreed that all sites need to keep talking on the issues here that are confronting us that led to a totdown of the government put us on the precipice of a potential default or reaching that line where the government does not have borrowing authority. in president believes that his meetings yesterday with republicans and democrats, there have been constructive talks. there is an indication of a recognition that we need to

inove default as a weapon budget negotiations, that the threat of default should not be used and the fault itself is never an option. -- default itself is never an option. the president appreciates the constructive nature. house republicans have put forward, he has some concerned with it. i will not read out details of the phone calls, but our position is that the united states and the american people cannot pay a ransom in exchange for congress to do his job. that remains to today as the has been. about the house proposal, are you talking about the wonder they presented in the meeting yesterday or a different or postal -- a different

proposal? >> i am not aware of multiple proposals. there has been a general discussion. i will not get into details. i will simply say the president has long believed and has insisted that we cannot allow a situation where one party in one house uses the threat of default to try to extract concessions to budget negotiations. it is his position that the right and to do is to remove that and extend the debt ceiling that thereat ensured is no suggestion or hint that the fault is an option. ndure thaty cannot e kind of approach to solving our budget differences.

budget negotiations would put us right back to where we are today in just six weeks, on the verge of thanksgiving and the important shopping season leading up to the holidays. that would create enormous uncertainty for our economy. the president is speaking with small business owners. we heard from them. the continued threat of default at the end of that season would be damaging to them. we do not think that is the right way to go. thet was said that president would likely sign a proposal. does that still stand? >> let's be clear on his position. it is the least that congress could do to pass legislation that would raise the debt ceiling for the short term and pass legislation that would fund the government for a short-term

that the senate has already passed. believes we should be said -- believe we should raise the debt ceiling. they will vote on that soon. we should not link the threat of default to budget negotiations. he is very eager to engage in budget negotiations. it was reflected in the budget proposal he made this year. there is a dynamic that has led to where we are now. it would be re-created in six weeks. a processo through where one party is trying to extract negotiations. -- there was a proposal that house republicans for ao the white house meeting. house republicans said there was a new proposal that they

presented to the staff last night that included reopening the government. the sound like you're not excepting that proposal. clarify that. -- it sounds like you are not accepting the proposal. clarify that. change. a welcome he hopes that an agreement can be reached. it is our view that we cannot have a situation with the debt ceiling is extended as part of a budget negotiation process. it would only put us in the same position we are in now. is -- with no conditions attached is a distinct from a that links it to

a budget negotiation and the continued threat of default as a point of leverage in a budget negotiation. it is putting the american economy at risk. there's a reason to keep the government shutdown. he has seen indication from both the senate and the house in the last 24 hours that they are interested in engaging in serious budget negotiations where we can achieve some of the goals that he has put forward in his budget proposal. in areas of our economy that will help us and protect the middle class. he very much looks forward to

that. there is no reason to not open the government right >> away in his you. >>-- there is no reason to not open the government right now in his view. >> [inaudible] >> i think the talks have been constructive. default itself would be catastrophically damaging to the economy on the american people. thosecknowledgment of realizations have helped create it at leastnt where looks like there is a possibility of making some progress. is that went's view have to remove these sort of using ther leverage

american people and the economy in order to achieve what one side is seeking for negotiation and simply engage in negotiations. do not punish the american people. we in washington have different points of view of how we should invest in moving forward. again, the talks have been, and i think this is important, the talks have been constructive. the president appreciates the approach that the speaker and others have taken. >> you mentioned this a couple of times. link the debt ceiling extension -- >> the president has a number of concerns with the proposal. there are other parts of the proposal that he thinks reflects

areas that we can find constructive agreement. by week, i mean not just the president and the speaker, but any kind of budget deal would have to pass through both houses of congress. that means an agreement among both democrats and republicans in both houses. the one issue that i mentioned now is that tidying the extension of the debt ceiling for only six weeks to budget negotiations creates a dynamic that is very similar to the one we were -- are expensing now and won the experience -- the country experienced back in 2011. republicans ought to remove the ofeat of default as a point leverage in budget negotiations. the article -- they are only doing hunt to the american people.

the president cannot pay ransom in exchange for conscious to do -- congress to do its part. >> what did you tell senate republicans this morning? they said it was a predictable lecture. >> i saw some other senators speak positively about the meeting. the president felt that was also a constructive meeting. about senator co rnyn's comments. he ought to expect the president's views on how to move forward. i do not think either side held back. the whole point is we need to have constructive negotiations and notr budget choices under a cloud that threatens to default or continue government shutdown.

you mentioned the administration's concern with the republican from both sold. -- republican proposal. what is the white house putting on the table in getting something done? >> it is our position that there is no acceptable reason to keep the government shutdown. all it does is harm americans who are out there trying to make ends meet and harm the economy. the government ought to be reopened. our position has not changed. our position on the debt ceiling has not changed. in budgeta tool negotiations. republicans have for the second time used the threat of default in an attempt to extract concessions that they could not

extract through normal legislative means. that is unacceptable. it is not personal. it would create a scenario where quarter after quarter or biannually or yearly, we would have these in a fractured crises. where there was default or not, it would do harm to our economy. slow growth. reduced job creation. squeezing the middle class and squeezing small businesses. that is not the way to do business. you are seeing among a number of lawmakers both in the senate and the house that there is a recognition that it is not the right approach to take. there are opinions held about the kinds of decisions we need to make to move forward with our budget and our deficit reduction. has not changed.

how is that negotiated? >> the president has had constructive conversations with house and senate republicans. is had good conversations with house and senate democrats. unacceptable to demand ransom from the american people. it is not going to change. or in sixt change now weeks. it will not change at any point during his presidency. what has always been true is that the president is willing to sit down and roll up his sleeves budgetk out common sense agreement with republicans that both his objectives and republican object it's in a compromise, compromise that achieves not everything he wants

and not everything the republicans want, but through a compromise -- >> you are waiting for the white flag? >> you guys want to turn this into a game of winners and losers. the president made clear the other day that in a situation where the government is shut down where one party is threatening default and some of their loudest voices are encouraging default, no one wins. nobody wins. he wants a situation where we can discuss and debate our anferences and reach agreement that reflects a willingness by both sides to compromise. he believes it is possible and that although we are not there indications from

republicans that there is a new willingness to explore the possibility. --totally different subject as a nobel laureates, does the president thank the committee should give the nobel peace prize to -- >> i wanted to say president obama congratulates the organization for the prohibition opcw.emical weapons, the they are against the use of chemical weapons. one of his highest priorities is to prevent the use of chemicals of mass distraction. since its establishment 16 years ago, they have stood at the forefront of the international community's efforts to

verifiably eliminate some of the world's most dangerous weapons. the world recognizes that commitment and reinforces the trust and confidence the world has placed in their director general and the courageous experts taking on the unprecedented challenge of eliminating serious chemical weapons program. the u.s. strongly supports it to syria'sthat serious -- chemical stockpile weapons are ultimately destroyed. in answer to your question, that young woman's courage and efforts are remarkable. the president honors of them, as

so many people around the world do. >> does the president -- notedhink the president and congratulated the winner of the nobel peace prize. there is an enormous amount of work being done around the world on behalf of peace. all of the should be recognized. >> the republicans started this all off with demanding full defunding of the affordable care act exchange. is it your sense of that the republicans have backed down? say that it is not really how it should be viewed.

it is a zero-sum competition. regardless inrs the process like this. the government is shutdown. default is threatened. the president wants of that dynamic to change. hisas made it clear willingness to negotiate and reach a compromise with republicans on a longer-term budget deal. he doesn't think that it is priceriate to exact a from the american people or to punish the american economy in an effort to try to tip the balance of those discussions and negotiations with republicans. he has been pretty firm about that. he is encouraged by some of the developments that we have seen. he agrees with the speaker that we need to continue talking and hopes that we can reach a resolution that removes the

threat of default run that table for considerable duration. government to reopen as soon as possible and put people back to work and and the situation where there are tolerable consequences -- terrible consequences occurring everyday. then we can go back to business of hammering out a compromise. if achieved, it will give each ,ide something to be proud of something to point to and say we got that because we thought it was important. we were willing to work with the -- thist and democrats is a republican speaking -- and what they insisted was important and we reached a compromise. if we can do that, on a long- term -- it depends on how the negotiations look like. >> originally, none of those

were republican demands, were they? >> when it comes to threatening thefull faith and credit of united states, no demand is acceptable, no matter how small. is highly as leverage damaging to the economy and the american middle class. there is a developing recognition that it was not the right way to go. and lessonsreasons that we learned back in 2011. >> one last thing -- can you explain to me how it is that the west wing week is still being produced. is that really essential government service? shouldn't that be part of the government shutdown? to theuld refer you office of management and budget. >> it is a weekly video webcast.

isthe communications office significantly slimmed down, as are many offices here. communications are part of what we need to do at the white house. is it fair to say that the conversation that was about avoiding default and the duration -- back and forth in these conversations. everyone is sensitive to the negotiations. there is an agreement to avoid default. the central issue is -- how long? >> without getting into debt about -- depth about conversations i do not want to recognitionere is a that default is not an acceptable outcome. it is not an option.

that we do not think there -- we have great concerns that wouldroposition tie the next debt ceiling to budget negotiations. >> longer than that? we shouldur view that remove removal of the -- extension of the debt ceiling from this conversation. the threat of default should not be part of negotiations. that has been our position. last 24 hours, the discussion about reopening the government for some time longer than previously discussed which is either two months, it is that commingled with the conversation about extending that debt limit?

it is not whether, but duration. more to itthere is than duration. our view is that the government should be reopen right away. they never should have been shut down. it is our view that the debt ceiling, the commitment by congress to pay our bills should be grown nowhere. nash renewed right away. -- should be renewed right away. >> for how long? and what is a framework for -- >> roughly speaking, that is fair. there is a lot more to it than that. what we think is not the right way to go is to try again after we have been through this in after we went through it two years.

linking the extension of the debt ceiling to budget negotiations and link the possibility of default of whether one side gets what it wants and budget negotiations. >> there needs to be a clear delineation of that? >> is it going in that direction? not speak for republicans. within talks are constructive. we think that they are looking talksway to bash we think are -- we think talks are constructive. we think that they are looking for a way to fund the government. they need to continue talking. we will see where we get. view,ew, the president's been is no reason that has articulated by rick cobb likins on why they insist -- articulated by the republicans why they insist on a government shutdown.

average folks are paying the price. a economy is paying the price. >> these talks are about resolving -- >> i will not characterize conversations taking place on capitol hill except to reiterate what our firm position has been. tomorrow could be interesting. house republicans have said they will have a vote. it will either be the original thing, which is november 22, or something that would reflect something that is longer and more comprehensive. the timeline would be something by tomorrow -- nine >> i can honestly say i do not if and when the house will

act on the legislation. spoke with the speaker. the president met with senate republicans. he has met with members of both parties. he will continue to have conversations. important is that everyone recognizes that default is not an option. place than wetter were a few days ago in terms of the constructive approach that we have seen as of late. there is not an agreement. it is argued in the president's view that the house onto allow the government to reopen and pass the bill that raises the act ceiling. that way it is clear to everyone that you cannot use that. no party should use the threat

todefault as leverage to try achieve something to budget negotiations. that -- country where there are two parties. each one is represented in washington. if one is reached, reflect some of what each side wants. that is highly achievable. it is not necessary to pursue budget negotiations under threat of default or continued shutdown. go, everyoneet you will be in town this weekend. international markets will monitor what will happen. it will be the last time before we start getting closer to the october 17 deadline. do you not agree that there is something important about what does or does not happen either here on the laura the senate? agree. have been able

to go back to work and the government should be open. we heard coming close to a deadline. -- we are coming close to a deadline. america doesn't have the capacity to borrow. that would be by any serious economist reckoning a very dangerous lace for the united states. for the united states. we hope that congress acts to remove that threat as soon as possible. is the source of disagreement gop the house to be -- include entitlements on the and [indiscernible]

is that one issue the white house has with this? not get into specifics about conversations and proposals that are being discussed. i will say broadly that the choicest that tough have to be made and can be made as part of a budget agreement and moves our country away reduces the deficit. he had the proposal on the table that would do what this over a 10 year period. that would include in a balanced way some of the kinds of reform that we are seeing discussed today. the fact that there is interest by both parties in both houses

and buying back the sequester is a good thing in our view. we are interested in budget negotiations that try to tackle that challenge. we would look at a variety of means of achieving that. that, we need to continue to have conversations. they have threaten default in this process. reopen the government as soon as possible. the president [indiscernible] talking about the president's opinion is reflected in the budget.

we need to tackle the in a balanced way. that is reflected in the budget. they're trying to find common ground on all of these issues. we need to explore the possibility of resolving this. there's this real and current conflict that has led them to shut down the current government and threaten default. we can move on to broader negotiations over how we achieve

our budget priorities. is that satisfactory? issue of -- can you clarify -- are you negotiating something or not? mean, itclearly -- i seems clear that if the republicans reopen the government, you guys have agreed to do something in return. it does seem as if you have moved off the position that you would negotiate. to remember what the position is specifically. the president is committed to the proposition that the american people should not and cannot pay ransom in exchange for congress to do its job. ensure the government stays open

. ensure that u.s. pace it fills. when it comes to -- ensure that the u.s. pays its bills. it is his view that demands for ransom of any kind, any kind of extraction of concession from him or the american people are unacceptable come in exchange for assuring that we do not default. >> what is the offering? you must be offering something. they must be thinking that the president will give them something. >> the conversation, at the very reinforced what the president has tried to convey through proposals and what he has said publicly and

privately. he is serious about finding compromise when it comes to budget challenges. he wants to get to work resolving them and believes that there are in both houses potential partners with both democrats and republicans to achieve that compromise. >> if there is something to come be futureich would budget talks to open up the government, right now, john boehner needed to get the votes, you guys are fine? saying you need it earlier to get the votes to reopen the government -- possibleot think it is to have a competitive budget agreement that is reflective of the president's proposal in a matter of days. unless there is a sudden willingness by republicans to --

there in lies the rub. precisely that because budget negotiations have compensated business and each views, theyncipled should not be conducted under the cloud of continued shutdown and certainly not conducted under the threat of default. that has been the opposition all along. it is fair to say that position reflects lessons learned from what happened in 2011. do is re-create the 2011 experience for the american people. they have paid a significant price. can you give the white house version of events for the ted

cruz back and forth question mark -- back and forth? >> no. [laughter] >> i do not have any further readouts on what the president thought was a constructive meeting. >> has the president conveyed he wants a longer-term debt ceiling? >> i do not have anything more to read about the conversation itself. our position is the same that is in private. it is the right thing to do to remove that gun from the table and ensure that the debt ceiling is raised for as long as possible so that it is not, no

one is tempted in this case, only republicans have been tempted, to use the threat of default as a means of extracting political concessions. >> some of the senate republicans can away from meetings with the president with the impression that he is backing away from the support from something short-term. is that accurate? >> what i would say is that it has never been our desired outcome that congress only reopens the government for a short-term or only list the debt ceiling for a short-term. that is verbatim in the past. the least they can do. it is still acceptable? as the bare minimum, sure. it is absolutely, if the congress per to pass a clean debt ceiling of short duration, to avoid default, the president would sign that.

whether congress extends the debt ceiling, the president's position on refusing to pay ransom in exchange for congress fulfilling their responsibility to the united states has not changed. >> does the white house see promise in senator collins proposal, given your desire for something longer? is that something that it's going be fruitful? wax a number of lawmakers in the senate, as well as the house expressed views that are constructive in our estimation read senator collins is one of them. aam not going to body weight specific proposal -- i'm not going to evaluate a specific proposal. >> did you answer by saying that yes these talks and meetings and phone calls, and conversations about the negotiations, --

[inaudible] >> our position hasn't changed. our position that there is no ransom that can be paid, and when you say negotiation you mean in the terms of extracting one side what you want in return for something else. president firmly believes it is not good for the american people or the economy for any president of either party or any party in the future to pay the opposition party a political price in exchange for its the filling that responsibility. e.g. into a situation which we are now experiencing, whereby one faction of one party manufactures a crisis that does harm to the economy, and harm to the american people. it is a complicated piece of turness within unfortunate

attached to it. it is about authorizing the government to pay the bills that congress has incurred. not paying those bills, that would make us a deadbeat nation. that is something that i do not think any american reasonably would find acceptable. >> i understand that. you said the president has a number of concerns with the proposal from the house republicans. that sounds a negotiating. can we use that word? >> you can use any word you want to describe it. that is the beauty of the free press. -- doesthe call will it, they jay carney phone call? >> saying that we believe that conversations have been constructive, and the proposal that republicans from the house of put forward represents in part progress, it reflects where we are in this. that doesn't --

>> you do not want to the use that word. >> when it comes to raising the debt ceiling. >> back-and-forth is negotiating. >> we're listening and talking. [laughter] >> the president signed the many funding to miss -- to restore military funding to death families. >> the legislation had not reached his desk. he asked his chief of staff to find a creative solution to this problem as soon as possible. thanks to the generosity of the fisher house and its willingness to help us deliver these benefits to families, an agreement was reached. the fisher house was a temporary solution to the problem. this legislation once passed and signed into law negates the need

for that. theoint all along was that way to resolve that problem and all of these problems instantly is to reopen the government. things that republicans felt were appropriate for the previous fiscal year. when legislation was passed and the president was able to sign it, he did, because it was important these benefits be guerin teed. he is enormously appreciative of the generosity of the fisher house on the work done by folks at omb and dod to come up with a solution that appeared to be needed. it is essential these benefits be provided. >> is it no longer a matter of principle that president obama theseot sign any other of

bills? >> he signed to pay our military act. because of the enormous and unique sacrifice that our military families provide, it is absolutely our position that attempts to solve a political problem by their decision to shut on the government through -- aretion are not gimmicks, broadly speaking. the way to resolve this political problem for republicans, and the way to solve this real pain in problem, that their decision to shut down the government has caused the american people is to reopen the american government. proposition me a put forward that leader reid and leader pelosi agree with is that the congress should extend government funding levels, funding at the levels that were

set for the previous fiscal year for a short duration to allow for budget negotiations. today, i thinkof it is clear that that is an entirely reasonable position, and hardly represents a demand, or concession to the president or the democrats go along with that. that is why we have taken the position. all of this hardship that the american people have experienced , andfar, and the confusion the real suffering as well as the inconvenience could have been avoided and can be avoided in the future if the congress, the house would reopen the government. blacks >> [inaudible] >> the president has said many times that he is open to

suggestions from a quarter about how to improve the affordable , theact and make it benefits that provides the american people, better and more efficiently deliver. arenderstands that there with programs like this, like the case of social security and medicare, and the children's health insurance program, there are ways to improve it. he doesn't doubt it. what he won't accept is improvements -- efforts to do away with the affordable care act that, in the guise of improvement or delays, or modesty funding. i think we have talked about it here. some of the ideas that have been firmly rejected by the majority of the american people that have forward, as put

mere adjustments or delays, were sincere efforts to eliminate it indirectly. that it isieve is important to provide access to affordable health insurance to millions of americans pray that is what the affordable care act does and will do. as is the case now, individuals across the country are finding out that they have a variety of options available to them at affordable prices to get quality health insurance they never could have gotten before. >> the delay of the the medical device tax is popping up again and again. the stuff onto the -- does that fall into the -- >> the president is open without

threats of continued shut down or threats of default to having serious conversations about our budget priorities, budget proposals, as well as any ideas any lawmaker might have about ways to improve the affordable care act. he is willing to look at any proposal when it comes to the one you mentioned. it limiting that provision would substantially increase the deficit. that is something that would greatly concerned him. it would have to take into account the much uncommon -- unremarked upon fact that the affordable care act reduces the deficit. as scored by the cbo and independent economists. the affordable care act is a deficit reducer. it would be important to the present to ensure that principle is maintained regardless of the

proposals that are put forward. >> the white house was happy about john boehner's position to show but the white house with 18 republicans. it seems like he was one of the most productive meetings that has happened since the shutdown. do you regret this. >> we do not require -- would not regret it. our position was we regret it every member of the house wasn't able to come. as ay because it is speaker of the house has noted, a diverse bunch, with sometimes conflicting opinions about policy and the president. it would have been useful for everyone to have a face-to-face conversation. having said that, we have that view. it is the case that yesterday's conversation with that subset of

the house republican conference believetructive, and we it is the right thing to do as we continue to have talks. >> you said republicans suddenly seem to have come around to the view that the threat of default is good. of thatk the timing view coincided with the wall street journal showing terrible numbers with republicans was collected dental? -- or aa republican still i reporter, it is possible i could reach that conclusion. i would encourage my former colleagues and those who are doing what i used to do to dig deeper into the bigger issues, which reflects what i am saying earlier. whatever the motivation is, it is our position that if you are

taking action washington, that hurts the american people, and the american economy, it is not on the popular across the nation. be what ist may reflected in some of the data. the fact the matter is, nobody wins when washington is dysfunctional in one party holds the process hostage to demands that are unreasonable. hopefully there is recognition we need to move away on that animate. government andhe remove the threat of default. engage in a serious minded negotiation where i can promise -- [laughter] we have always said that. remove the threat of default. let's negotiate about our budget priorities. --t negotiation will result if there is a conclusion to that

negotiation, that would mean got each guide -- each side what it wanted, but neither side got all of what it wanted. that is how it should be. that is the spirit which the president has approached the process. recognizing that we have a system of government with two strong parties that are represented in different proportions, and then no one gets everything he or she wants when it comes to these kind of negotiations. these things are hard enough. it is not the right approach to take to achieve what you want by threatening default, or threatening to shut down the government and key people out of work. that is always our position. it hasn't been a position that don't do these things and therefore we get everything we

want raid the president knows that he is not going to get everything he wants. his proposal recognizes that. >> thanks, jay. >> one more. moved.eems like we have [laughter] [inaudible] >> he can't think of what to say. [laughter] careful aboute this. you have danced around the negotiations question. you wanted a clean cr. now it seems you're willing to negotiate a mini deal that would get traction to a clean cr. things that you want and the republicans want attached to a clean cr.

.o you have a policy sidecar that is new. >> i understand the question. it is a smart one. let me be clear. our position has been that at the very least, congress ought not to allow the government to shut down. republicans should not shut down the government and the house of representatives should do with the senate has, and pass a clean cr funding in the previous fiscal year by largely republicans. it is also our position that we envision a bigger and broader budget compromise that achieves some of the goals the president has been talking about for a long time. continue deficit reduction. dealing with the problem of the sequester. key investments in areas of our us growthat will help stronger in the future and create more jobs. both are true. at the least, our position has

been that the republicans of not shut down the government. when a clear -- when became clear they were not going to get what they wanted, they should have done the least, which is with the senate did, and pass an extension of spending at current levels to allow for budget negotiations. they chose to shut the government down to use pain and suffering of the american people as leverage to get what they wanted. it is fair to say that has not worked for them. we are encouraged by the constructive approach the republicans have taken in conversations with the president and others in recent hours and days. we do not have an agreement yet. ,> are you willing to negotiate or are trying to negotiate on any deal that gives both sides something they want the one not be considered a ransom, which is

still -- there were not be a ransom. the cannot characterize conversation that way. what we're looking for is the way to see if the congress, and republicans in congress, can reopen the government. which is something we have asked them to do from day one. and remove the threat of default from the process. that is our position in our view. it is one that we have express. we have seen signs and appreciate them coming from the republican side, and believe the said in the reality president that it is important to continue to talk. last one. >> what is the next step? are you waiting for boehner to come back with a new proposal tonight? fair to sayt is

that when it comes to specifics conversationsd that i'm not going to have a lot to offer you today. it is pretty evident. [laughter] >> the president talked to speaker mainer. is he waiting? this thed refer to you curb. the present agreed to continue talking. we think what we have seen represents a constructive approach, and hopefully congress will reach an agreement sometime that will allow them to open the government, reopen the government, and remove the threat of default from the process. it is enormously damaging to the economy and the american people. [inaudible] >> i do not have any scheduling updates. i will keep you posted if we

have -- but i have nothing on tomorrow's schedule. [laughter] don't have one. it is a fluid situation. scheduling have no announcements of that kind to make. i do not expect to make them. -- the normal process we follow will be followed in this case. thanks. president mama have gone to afghanistan today? -- would president obama have gone to afghanistan today? filling in for the president on the rest of the trip. [inaudible] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] http://twitter.com/cspanwj

[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> caroline smith will look at the impact of food safety across the united states. she is the food safety director at the center of science. washington journal is live. >> both chambers of congress will be in session tomorrow. the house gavels in at 9:00 eastern. the house voted in favor of working on differences in the farm bill. the senate is voting on a debt ceiling bill. it would extend the debt ceiling for one year. a vote on the measure is expected to be held around noon. negotiations around --

they try to reach an agreement to end the federal government shut down and move forward on the debt ceiling. you can watch the house live on c-span. >> we want to know how the government shutdown is affecting you. >> make your video message about the shut down and upload it at tal.com -- tout.com. >> part two our conversation with josh bolten. with thes what you saw press, the media, and that world. how did you view them? >> usually with hostility. it's the natural state of affairs. between the white house and the press corps.

that is just the nature of what the press days to do. they need to catch the white house on whatever is going on. bolten on q&a.sh >> the values voter summit meeting is in this -- is this we can. it is a conference of social conservatives. republican senators mike lee, ted cruz, rand paul, marco rubio, and tim scott spoke of the conference. this is two hours. >> good morning. welcome to the eighth annual values voter summit. the government might be shut down, but the values voter summit is open and we're ready to do business.

you might have noticed it is not a shutdown, but a slowdown what is a slowdown? it is like being in a perpetual tsa line. [laughter] no one seems to be moving, but you still have to empty your pockets. [laughter] [applause] the president's barricades might have prevented vacationing families from touring our nations parks. you might have used those barricades to try to keep our veterans from visiting memorials that their courage and sacrifice inspired.

he has used his barricade to try to keep our voices down in america. it is about time we let him know no one is going to keep the voice of the american people from being heard in our nation today. [applause] i suggest that we start our values voter summit by removing these barricades. the best thing to do is to remove these barricades off of the stage and show that nothing will keep us back. we need to remove the barricade of obamacare to our freedoms in america. [applause] all right, guys, take it away. are you ready to let your voices

be heard in the nation's capital? that did not convince me. are you ready for your voice to be heard in the nation's capital? [applause] you'll hear from the greatest leaders and thinkers. i have no doubt that you will be inspired, informed, you might even be entertained at times. i hope more than anything you will be engaged in doing what is necessary to turn this country back to its founding principles. those principles that were so clearly articulated in the founding asked by the founding fathers -- we hold these truths to be self-evident. all men are created equal and endowed by their creator. with certain unalienable rights. among these is liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

driving their just powers from the consent of the governed. they do not have our consent. [applause] i now have the privilege of officially calling that 2013 values voter summit into session. [gavel, gavel] [applause] i cannot think of a better kickoff than our first speaker. it was his leadership that was instrumental in getting the republican leadership to challenge this administration by simply wooing the will of the people, to stop this train wreck we know as obamacare.

you have seen them on the news repeatedly over the last month. if the president cannot follow his law, the american people should not fund it. senator mike leigh has spent his career as an attorney defending the basic liberties of americans for our constitutional principles. mike leigh white stupors of america's founding documents in the senate. he acquired a deep respect for the constitution. his father served as the solicitor general under president ronald reagan. he often discussed aspects of judicial and constitutional doctrines around the kitchen table. just the average family discussion. what a great example. a family time will spend. these help me in welcoming the first speaker for that 2013

values voter summit, senator mike lee of utah. [applause] >> thank you. thank you to all of you. it is great to be here. it is a privilege to be with you right here today at the values voter summit. i want to started this morning by telling you a story i heard from a man named phillips. he told a story of how he was walking across a bridge very late one night. it was late enough there were no automobile traffic on that bridge. in fact, no one on the bridge at all. he was able to walk in the middle of the bridge.

it was a high bridge. it stretched over a large river. it was high enough that anyone who fell off of that bridge would not survive the impact even if they landed in the water. he got halfway. he saw a man standing on the outside of the guardrail as if getting ready to jump. he knew from the height of the bridge the man would not survive. he surmised that the man was contemplating ending his life. philip stopped and engaged the man in conversation. he asked if he were a believer, if he believed in god. the man said, "yes." he said, "me, too. are you a christian?" "yes." "me, too." "what denomination are you?" "well, i'm a baptist." "me, too! northern baptist or southern baptist?" [laughter] "northern baptist." "me, too. northern conservative baptist or northern liberal baptist?" "northern conservative baptist."

"me, too!" northern conservative baptist great lakes region, or northern conservative baptist eastern region?" he said, "northern conservative baptist great lakes region." "northern conservative baptist great lakes region council of 1879, or northern conservative baptist great lakes region council of 1912?" he said, "northern conservative baptist great lakes region council of 1912." i said, "die, heretic!" and i pushed him off. [laughter] that should be a reminder to us all. we have to remember it is far more important to keep our eyes fixed on potential conservative converts than finding heretics. the principles that unite us are the supposed that help position us to win the hearts and the minds of voters across this great land. too often we stop thinking about the things that matter the most. we get caught in the thick of things. so caught up we stopped thinking big and often stop thinking at all.

like 17 jillion dollars of debt. widespread government dysfunction. obamacare and much more. i want to tell you a story about my boys. 18 years old. james and john. they are good boys. they go to church. they read their scriptures. 4.0 students. on this day we were listening to the radio in my car. they were listening to a song we have heard many times. a song i had not listened to very carefully in the past. all of they said in, i started listening to the words. i realize these words were not necessarily good. there were not any words of any god fearing father would want his voice hearing. i pointed it out to them.

this is a raunchy song. this is terrible. my son john, without batting an eye, said, "dad, it is not bad if you do not think about it." [laughter] i thought, my son john must be advising the president of the united states. [laughter] [applause] $17 trillion debt is not bad, but only if you do not think about it. if you do think about it, that is horrible. the very best argument against obamacare is the president's conduct during the first 10 days of the shutdown. look at what has happened.

he is using the power of the federal government to win a political argument. what happens when we turn over some of the most private and intimate decisions in our lives? when will that be used as a tool against us? you must stop it and defund it. we cannot accept it. [applause] ted cruz and others who have stood with us -- [cheers and applause] by the way, i see my friend with us this morning. thank you, sir, for sending a great son to washington. [applause]

ted cruz and i have been criticized for our actions in the attempt to defund obamacare. we make no apologies. we stand with the people. [applause] you all are here today because you are thinking about it. our party, my party, the republican party is at its best when we think. unfortunately, some people succumb to the notion that we cannot inc. deeply in the middle of big battles -- think deeply in the middle of the data.

this is exactly what we should be doing. we should do it today and every day. when we stop and come back home to being the party of big ideas, good things happen. the bigger our ideas, the more we succeed. ronald reagan, a conservative revolution. george w. bush compassion. they all showed in their time that it is the ideas and the principles rather than the personalities or interest groups that unified the republican party and propelled it to electoral success and governing success. lately it seems you have not had nearly enough of either. some say it is because we need better candidates. some say it is the cousin we need a better message. others say it is a dispute about tactics and strategy or even

about technology. certainly those things all play a part. to my mind, what the party of ideas is really missing is ideas. for too long, republicans have put off the difficult task of developing a principle -- conservative reform agenda -- to meet many of the new challenges of the 21st century. there a many reasons why this is so. the biggest of all is that conservatives often fall into a trap. a trap that involves defining ourselves by what we are against. against big government, debt, higher taxes, more regulations, and obamacare. we are against to that. perhaps we have invested nearly as much time and energy communicating what we as conservatives are for. i'm talking more than the

policies we advocate for. conservatism is not about the bills we want to pass. it is about the nation that we want to be. for conservatives, politics is far more than a means. it is an end. what conservatives are really for is not an agenda for government. it is a vision of society, a view of the world we want to build together. that is a word. it is essential. it is too often overlooked. >> the reason we fight for that free freedoms individuals form. the alternative is big

government is not just small government. where you are success depends on the quality of your us access. it is a free enterprise economy. competing to see who can figure out the best way to help the most people. it is a voluntary civil society where free individuals come together voluntarily to meet each others needs, to fill in the gaps, and to make sure that no one is left behind. communities,mong not as a result of a government mandate. despite what people may think, even people within our own movement, conservatism has never been a vision of loners. ours is a vision of husbands and

wives, husbands, bosses and employees, and businesses, customers, teams, groups, associations, and friends. we do not simply want smaller government. that is necessary, but it is not enough. we want bigger citizens, we want stronger neighborhoods, and more heroic communities. we understand what liberals do not, that freedom does not mean you are all on your own. freedom means we are all in this together. the value that we place on community is based on the value we place on the first and most important human community of them all -- the family. [applause] conservatives have argued for years, decades, in fact, that families must be at the core of

our world view. on issues like school prayer or the right to life or traditional marriage, homeschooling, conservatives have said protect and the family is the single most important part of our agenda. and it is. today, some critics say times have changed. some of them say we have to change with them, that we have to reach out to people beyond our conservative base, that we have to change the way we think and the way we talk about families. it may surprise you to hear me say this, but i think they make great point. times have changed. we need to broaden our appeal, and we need to change the way we talk about the family. but ultimately, the critics have it exactly backwards. the problem is not that conservatives have focused too much on the family, but far too little. [applause]

for the rapid changes we have seen in recent years in america, they have made only the family more important, not less. the family is the foundation not only of our society, but also of our economy, our culture, and our republican form of government as well. the family is indivisible from any other facet of america's history or destiny. crises like divorce, fatherlessness, and social isolation, while moral in nature, have social and economic consequences. in the same way, economic consequences, like unequal opportunity and the spiraling costs of housing, health care, and education, represent threats to the stability and to our national success. working families today are bearing the brunt of all of these things. and as a result, far too many

are falling behind. abraham lincoln explained the what role of government should be for every citizen, at every stage of life, something encompassed by the following statement -- he said the purpose of it is to lift artificial weights from all shoulders, to clear the paths of laudable pursuit for all, to afford all an unfettered start and a fair chance in the race of life. lincoln's insights offer an almost perfect collation of what america and what the republican party is at its best and what they stand for -- equal opportunity for all to pursue happiness. today this foundational american ideal is hanging, as it were, by the thread. up and down american society, which used to be defined and

driven by what de tocqueville called our yearning to rise, we find a new and unnatural stagnancy. we find the underprivileged trapped in poverty, sometimes for generations. we find a middle class caught on our treadmill running harder every year to maintain social cohesion, that were once taken for granted. at the top of our society we find an elite that has pulled up the ladder behind itself, denying others the chance even to climb. from wall street to k street to pennsylvania avenue, we find special interests increasingly exempted and insulated, by law, no less, from the rigors of competition and the consequences of their own mistakes. all of this points to what really is an inequality crisis

in america today, a crisis not of unequal wealth or of unequal income, but of unequal opportunity. progressives from the president on down say inequality in america today is the failure of the free market, resulting somehow from insufficient government interventions. we know better, because if you look closely you start to notice the opposite is true. today, many of lincoln's artificial weights and obstacles blocking these paths of laudable pursuit are themselves dysfunctional government policies. [applause] it is government policy after all that traps poor children in rotten schools, that traps poor families in neighborhoods, that penalize single parents for

getting raises and getting jobs or getting married. it is government policies that inflate costs and limit access to quality schools and health care, that hamstrings innovation in education, and penalizes parents' investments. this opportunity crisis is absolutely real. sadly, it is just as real as the liberals' flawed, seductive, big-government proposals to create their version of opportunity. it is not enough for us to simply oppose the liberals' ideas. you have to propose conservative ones. true victory for values voters may be found a little ways down that road less traveled, but it is long past time for conservatives to take it. our movement is at its very best when we take on big, big challenges. and the great challenge of our

time is the challenge of the forgotten family, the honest noble parents across the country, just trying to make ends meet in a society, in an economy, and in a democracy that seems increasingly rigged washington against them. it is time for a new agenda that levels the playing field and finally meets the challenges facing working families, to give underprivileged families a fair chance to work their way into the middle class, to give families struggling to stay in the middle class their fair chance to make a good living and build a good life, to make it easier for couples to start families among for entrepreneurs to start businesses and volunteers to start civic and charitable organizations, to help all americans at every step along the path of success to overcome the obstacles that the government, even the big government facing this town, a better chance for opportunity. it is time for a new approach to

taxes, to not only lower rates to spur economic growth and opportunity -- [applause] but also to eliminate tax discriminations against parents and against families. [applause] i am working on a bill designed to do just that. it is time for a new approach to education, to break up the special interest cartels that hold back our young children and our young adults. [applause] education is itself opportunity, and government has no business telling students where they can and cannot go to get it. [applause] it is time for a new, more bold approach to transportation. new roads mean new roads, jobs,

new opportunities. today, infrastructure money that states should be spending on those opportunities washington takes and spends on bureaucratic waste and on special interest giveaways. it is time to rethink our dysfunctional welfare system that holds poor families down. [applause] and it is time to reform a corrupt corporate welfare system that props big businesses up. [applause] we need to find new ways, conservative ways that rely on free enterprise and institutions of civil society to help young couples to get married, afford a home, raise and educate their children, and retirement security themselves.

our movement has always identified with those americans who have climbed that ladder of success. and we always should. but our ideals demand we identify even more with those americans still on the bottom rungs, where the climbing is harder, more dangerous, and far more lonely. we need to stand up for those americans that no one else will, for the unborn child in the world -- [applause]

for the poor student caught in the failing school, for the reformed father languishing in prison and the fatherless sons facing alone the dangers of the street, for the single mom who is working two jobs, but still ensnared in big government poverty traps, for the elderly and the disabled, dehumanized by the washington, d.c., government bureaucracy, and for the splintering neighborhoods that desperately need all of these people. these families, these moms and dads, these grandparents and kids, they are waiting for us. they know more government is not the answer. they know government only

divides them. they also know too often our party has ignored them. that has to change and it has to change today, it has to change right now, because every hour, every day the government leaves more and more american families behind. it is time for conservatives to remember those forgotten families, in word and in deed, in our hearts, and in our political agenda. it is time to remember the most audacious entrepreneurs are not high-tech people in silicon valley or new york, they are a young couple in church saying i do. it is time to run for most important investments in our nation's future are not issued on wall street, but they are sleeping in their mother's arms at the maternity unit of the your local hospital.

to be truly pro growth and productivity, our agenda must be truly pro family. [applause] that means we have to be pro family not just on some of the issues, but on all of them. i believe if conservatives look a new to the challenges facing the american family, we will quickly discover opportunities to meet, united and undaunted, the challenges facing our movement, our economy, and our nation, building a new conservative show agenda of reform around these moms and dads and kids about remembering america's values and especially america's forgotten families. it is the path for restoring the greatness of our nation. and if at long last conservatives finally take that road less traveled, it will make all the difference.

[applause] thank you for all you do. may almighty god, the god of abraham and isaac and jacob, bless you all, and god bless the united states of america. ["stars and stripes forever" plays] >> thank you. speaker has recovered from his 21-hour filibuster. but i had to tell him we could only give you 20 minutes. coming to introduce him is the founder and president of the media research center, one of the sponsors of the summit, and

for exposing liberal bias by watching countless hours of mainstream media coverage so we do not have to, would you not only welcome, but would you thank brent bozell. >> good morning. how are we doing today? all right, ladies and gentlemen, there is a whole lot of talk in washington today, and there is a lot of things being said, a lot of things are not being said, and there are a few things that need to be said. i for one am sick of the whining that is going on in the republican party and from some in the conservative movement. the other day i read from one faux conservative the strategy

to defund the affordable care act needed a plan b, and they thought if they had one, they did not sure what it was. then came another whiner. i think it was possible for us to delay the implementation of obamacare for a year until ted cruz came along and crashed and burned. this is what they did not tell you. until ted cruz come along with mike lee, they had no plan b, they had no plan a. [applause] and nobody to my thinking, nobody has been more blatant in his intellectual dishonesty than senator john mccain. [applause] this is what he told you on september 9. he wanted the whole world to

know this. he said, i can tell you in the u.s. senate we will not repeal or defund obamacare, we will not, and to think that we can is not rational. this is what he does not want you to know. in 2010, when he was campaigning for his life and needed conservatives, it will be repealed and replaced, it will not stand. that is what he said. october 9, this is what he wanted america to hear, to think we are going to repeal obamacare was a false premise, and i think it does a great disservice to the american people to think that somehow we could. this is what he did not want to share -- john mccain is our last line of defense, leading the charge against the ridiculously unaffordable ideas like government-run health care. this is what he said on tuesday on cnn, wanted the whole world to hear. defunding obamacare is a fool's errand.

convincing tea partiers that there was some way to defund obamacare -- we cannot. this is what he said the night he won his primary. we will regain the senate and house, and when we do we will replace and repeal obamacare. this is a game, a game republicans and some conservatives have been playing since 2009, give lots of speeches, make lots of promises, use lots of money, get yourself elected, even reelected, and do nothing. it is the height of cynicism, and then the unthinkable happened. ted cruz called them out. he said quite clearly enough of that game. america is threatened. this is where we make our stand. i am so hard proud of that man.

strength, strength, courage, principle -- he has these things and it is because he has these things and they do not have these things they have turned on him. here is a memo to the ruling class that i have got in washington, d.c. -- we will not allow that to happen. tell me now, tell me now, will you stand with ted cruz? [applause] tell me now. does he deserve our gratitude for his magnificent devotion to liberty? does he deserve our prayers for continuing -- tell him now, do we stand with him in his crusade to save america? do not tell me. tell senator ted cruz. ♪