the house ways and means committee. on the democratic side, senator levin of michigan. eliot engel of new york. eliot engel will be our guest ."is weekend on "newsmakers you can watch that at 10:00 a.m. on sunday and 6 p.m. eastern. we heard earlier from the house on some of their action earlier today. we will take a look at what they had to say from earlier this afternoon. >> once again in the 12th day of the shutdown of the american people he 12th day of having people out of work. work, but notto

working for that pay. the publicans have refused to put on the floor legislation that will open the people's government. membershad over 150 sign a petition to open the government. and bring legislation to the floor. askingscores of members for unanimous consent of the body to do just that. so that the government could be open today. a point of order was just made. any member of the house would hre been in order to ask for floor.e put on the we will discuss that at greater length. the american people want the government opened.

they want us to talk. they want us to reach an agreement. they see no need. we see no need of having literally millions of people shut out of their workplace while the republican majority shuts down the government and tries to hold a gun at our head to agree on things that, in a democratic process, should be dealt with not at the point of a gun, but at the table of conference, to which they have refused to go over the last five months. that me yield to my colleague tim cliburn. yburn. cl day 12 of are on government shutdown imposed on the american people by a series of manufactured crises. today, we have witnessed

attempts on behalf of this congress by the majority to shut keep theay and to american forces they say they .ant to heal the american people have made clear they want to see this brought into play. this is what happens in a government process when we stymie the opposition, when we put off debate, and when we continue to teeter on disaster. it is time for us to reopen the government and let people go back to work and have the american people put at ease. with that, i would like to yield to our chair.

>> i thank mr. clyburn. it is incredible what we are watching. , house democrats took to the floor and asked for ourimous consent to see if colleagues would allow, without objecting, us to put on the floor a measure to reopen the government. even the request just to ask to have this on the floor was shut down. clear onhe message is the part of the representatives of so many of the millions of americans who do not understand why they cannot go to work, why we cannot let our economy move forward. he are simply saying, let america work. that's america' as it is vote to put america back to -- let

america's representatives vote to put america back to work. we will not stop until we are allowed to put america back to work. that me yield to the vice- chairman of the democratic caucus. >> what we saw was the shutdown of democracy, of freedom, debate about the most important issue of funding our country right now. not government is operating. we were using our procedural motions to express our displeasure with the majority. they took their opportunity to shut down that debate as well. down -- not been shut we need to open up government working for all of the people of the united states. would like to turn it over to my colleague from new york, mr. israel. >> thank you.

ae republican leadership made decision to in the session for the weekend. the government remains shut down. lands can take off carrying members back to districts. uncertaintyto have about what will happen to social security benefits on monday. know businesses do not when they open on monday whether they will be able to apply sba loans.or those planes take off while the federal government remains shut down. that is fundamentally wrong. we saw in this discharge petition-- position -- 18680 governments -- democrat sign to open this government now. 280 democrats stated they would support a vote on a clean

government -- a clean vote to open this government now. no conditions. just open this government. there are 28 republicans who will get on that plane today and fly home and spend the rest of the week in their districts saying, i am one of the good guys. i am willing to vote for a clean budget. those constituents see those republicans who claim they are willing to vote for a them,budget, they ask will you sign that discharge position -- petition when you get back on monday? will you put your people ahead of partisanship. they have the opportunity to do that on monday. i hope they listen carefully to their constituents on saturday and sunday. with that, i will yield for the distinguished ranking member of the budget committee, chris van hollen of maryland. >> thank you. every day this shutdown goes on

is another day the country is hurting from this unnecessary action taken by our republican colleagues. we know from public statements that there are a majority of the house of representatives who want to go to immediately open the entire federal government. the speaker has refused to allow itspeople's house to work will. he has refused to allow democracy to work its will. the rules of the house to deny the opportunity to any member of congress, republican or democrat, to call up and vote on the law that would immediately open the endral government and in -- this unnecessary disruption of the country. they said only the speaker or eric cantor can open up the

government. as chairman israel and others have said, we will give all of our members an opportunity to show they mean when they say, to show that here in congress they will do what they are telling their constituents back home they will do. you have well over a majority who have said they want to do the people's is this and they want to immediately -- do the they wantusiness and to immediately open the government. we have a discharge petition. if we can get everybody who said they want to open the government to sign it, there are no more excuses. i think republicans forgot why they shut down the government to begin with. this is the opportunity to take action, to get it open now. let's just be real.

the speaker could walk onto that chamber today and get it done if they had not changed the rules of the house. any of us could have get -- could get it done. i hope everybody who is here will be asking those members of congress who publicly said they wanted to vote to reopen the government right now whether they would sign that petition to do what they said they were going to do. i want to introduce one of our terrific new members from the great state of new york. he just signed a petition to open the government and is calling on all members of congress, new and old, to join in doing that. a proud member of this new freshman class, i was happy now to sign the petition. class thatfreshman came to congress to work on behalf of the american people. we came to congress because we want to cooperate with both sides of the aisle.

we want to make sure americans have more opportunities, more jobs, and that our children are fed. we pleadsappointed and with the republican leadership to end this shutdown to make sure we are able to cooperate. o. have issues of concern, to we want to work on immigration reform and tax reform. we plead with republican 30dership and the 20 to members who signaled they would he supportive of this measure to reopen the government. >> thank you. as each of our members have said , we believe there are the votes to open up government.

, they van hollen said amended the rules a few weeks ago and said only the majority , whose stateantor is being adversely affected by the shutdown, can offer the 59ion to brain -- bring hr to the floor. we hope he will do that. we hope the speaker will do that. america wants that and they have clearly indicated that in every poll. majority leadercant -- majority leader cantor said you inappropriately touched a canto -- a cantor staffer. >> i had a few words with a staff member of mr. cantor.

i apologized. he accepted my apology. >> republicans are not happy with us continuing to say let's open the government. they are not opening the government. that frustration boiled over. this staffer is a good person. there was an exchange with one of my staff members. i was not close by. mr. crowley said he thought that was inappropriate. i am glad the staffer has apologized. is, we need to open the government for the american people, not get it by the fact that the government of the united states of america that serves the american people is shut down needlessly for political purposes only.

186 signatures. fromat have you heard the planeid on how might be changing? >> i have not talked to him. your keyword is "eat eventually." we need to open the -- your keyword is eventually. we need to open the government now. we have been trying to go to a conference date to talk about these issues. they do not need to be talked about while government is shut down. it is hurting the government employees. it is hurting the millions and millions of americans that those employees serve. >> [indiscernible] >> i am not going to negotiate

here. the issue is very clear. the american people think it is absurd and wrong and bad policy to be shutting down the government, which cost $300 million a day. they understand that in a democracy, you have differences of opinion. you talk to those differences of opinion. they also understand that that may take some time. thatthey don't believe is you should shut down the government in the process. >> [indiscernible] >> no, we are not. have no believe the republicans will open the chamber for business. if they were to announce that tomorrow morning we will convene to open up the government, i guarantee you we would get every

democrat that here that was able to get at here. we have a couple of members who are ill. >> [indiscernible] >> it is not a question of being in session. we have been in session for 12 days and the government has been shut down. we have been here. we have demanded over and over and over again. right now, we can open up the government. it is not a question of calling members back or not. they amended the rules so that only eric cantor, the majority leader of the house, can put something on the floor. eric cantor has indicated no willingness to do that. we are willing to do it tomorrow. we are ready to do it monday. we want to do it now. thank you very much.

the government shutdown tied up because of opposition to the federal health care law. some tweets from members of congress. day 12.er says shutdown i am staying in d.c., ready to work and vote. new york are presented to you that clark says, i encourage you to come on thursday, october 17 two mentor evers college to sign ers college to sign up for affordable health coverage. if you want to join the conversation on twitter, use the #cspanchat. appleby with the kaiser

family foundation will join us. the amtrak president and ceo talks about new ridership numbers to be released on monday and the consequences of the government short -- government shutdown on transit. join us tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. eastern time on c-span. senate democratic leaders are meeting with the resident at the white house at this hour. earlier today, the democrats talked about the debt ceiling in with the negotiations stand.

>> this morning at 9:00 i met with senator mcconnell. the meeting was set up last night late. senator mcconnell indicated that the senator alexander has a ranking member and the rules committee had worked. i called him and said what is going on. the short of the story is he said i am representing senator mcconnell. later in the evening he asked if i would answer. enter at 9:00 this morning. they were extremely cordial but very for limoneira. nothing conclusive. i hope that our talking give some solace to the american

people and to the world. this is not happen until now. senator mcconnell asked to meet with me. i was happy to do that or it they should be seen as something very positive. even though we do not have any aim done yet and a long way to go before that will happen. that is a relative term. we're trying to figure out a way to go or word. susan collins is one my favorite senators, democrat or republican. the plan that she suggested and writing is not going to go any

place at this stage. there are two good things in it. number one, it opens the government. number two, extends the debt ceiling. other than that there is little agreement with us. i want to make sure that before you understand that we have some problems with that as does the white house with the collins plan as i explained to senator mcconnell and alexander, and they are not doing us a favor by reopening the government. they are not doing us a favor by extending the debt ceiling. that is part of our job. that is why we have said open the government, let us pay our bills. we need to do that before we have any agreement on what goes on after that.

this is not a concession. this is just us doing our jobs. this is four days away. i say that this is just us doing our job. this is four days away. i've a piece of legislation on the floor today to extend the debt ceiling per year. it is hard for me to comprehend. every republican voted against it. some say it is a motion to proceed. we will have 30 hours, use every minute that we want to to see if we could come up with something. they just voted no. procedurally you know how it works. that is not easy to move forward. i cannot imagine why they did that. they're risking american jobs.

none hundreds of thousands, millions of jobs. social security check, medicare he payments, even our military. we have people saying we can privatize them. we want to reopen the government. we are putting good faith negotiations on a long-term budget. that is what we are working on. >> people of america have seen this movie several times. the american damsel is tied to the tracks and the engine is bearing down. the question is whether or not

congress at the last minute to come to the rescue and save this country. i think some of them have said ultimately they will work it out. i think there is reason to believe that ultimately we will work it out. let's be honest where we are. we saw today on the senate floor. we ended out with a sad outcome when it came to this vote. it is troubling to me that not a single republican stepped up to start the debate on whether or not we avoid the debt ceiling default in just four days. not a single republican would step forward. some have said that we are

forward to this vote to vote no. i do not understand her logic but that is what they said. before people give up hope, and hear the train whistle and wonder if this will end up in the right way, there are conversations going on with senators of both political parties. beyond what senator reid mentioned in his earlier meeting, there is an active conversation between republicans and democrats in the senate. why question mark we understand how important this is. we understand how much damage has been done to 800,000 furloughed federal employees. we realize the potential damage to 300 million americans if we default on this debt. they have told us we are dealing with increases with interest rates on everybody. and the reputation of the united states will be damaged anyway it has never been damage. that is why i believe these conversations are underway and must proceed.

we're going to continue to open up these channels and find a way to deal with this. it is troubling. it is heartbreaking to think we have reached this point. we are motivated not by what is good for the nation but the fact that the house republicans have utterly failed in leadership in terms of coming forward to coming up with a solution. now we have to except responsibility. >> first i would like to say that we had a very good caucus today. democrats were unified. we are all united around the principles of paying our government. today breaks bad news and good news. the bad news is that the motion to proceed so that we could pay our bills failed because it did not get the 60 votes or

bipartisan support we hope. this is playing with fire. we do not know when the markets will react to this. you can't say it will be no sooner than next thursday. i worry on monday that when the american markets open in, maybe because of this vote that they will start worrying and not only will the stock market go down and interest rate go up and value of the u.s. treasuries decline, it is very serious. it would have been a whole lot better if we could put this aside and have 100-zero votes to pay our bills. i do not happen. the meeting that senator reed and i had with senator mcconnell call give me a little bit of a cause for optimism. the clocks are in their very early stages.

i believe senator mcconnell showed goodwill. i believe he wants to come to a solution. i believe he knows how serious it is to default. my view is that it will be the senate to that has to come to an agreement here. the house republicans seem so divided and in some disarray. they do not have a plan. the hope is that at the end of the day, sooner rather than later, in a bipartisan way we can come together and take this burden off the shoulders of the american worker, family, and american economy by coming up with a fair and reasonable solution. we made clear that we do not regard it as a concession to open up the government.

we do not regard it as a concession to say we want to pay our bills. that is our job. we should all be doing our job. and figuring out a way to stick to those principles and come up with a bipartisan agreement. i'm considerably more optimistic today than i am yesterday as a result of our meetings and a result of many other things that have happened. we are all ready to roll up our sleeves and work to avoid this calamity. we are looking for our colleagues on the other side of the aisle to join us. >> are on a saturday when a lot of families are focused on football and what they will have

for sunday morning brunch. we in congress have a responsibility to make sure they are not worried about their paychecks or about the economic future of this country or whether or not we are going to be able to work together. we stand here very strong to say we are willing to work together and we will pay our bills. it is extremely important to us. there are, stations going on that are critical. we have to remember back to how we got here. there are conversations going on. they are critical. we also have to remember back to how we got here. we agreed to have a continuing resolution so we can work on the broader issues that we all have disagreements about. the house republicans decided they were going to take obamacare hostage and shut down our government which has now bled into a point will reach are about to not paying our bills -- pay our bills and hurt our economy. they do stop asking for hostages in order for our country to be

ok. for our families to have breakfast without worrying about what is going to happen on monday morning in the stock market. we stand ready to negotiate. none of us believe we will get our way at the end of the day. we should not be holding our countries and our communities hostage any longer. we asked house republicans to stand up, pass the continuing resolution and work with us on the challenges in front of us. you have been pretty form about what you will and will not accept in terms of a deal. to mcconnell does not seem have much wiggle room either. what do you think he's going to accomplish? you're absolutely right. we never should've had the waste of time. be serious. he has problems. i have problems. arrangements are made.

this is a piece of legislation. we're going to work to come up with a compromise. we're not going to do that until the government reopens. there is a way to pay the bill. he knows me. we do not agree on everything. it's probably an understatement. together.h u we revamped government together. legislate is all about. if we have political scientist out there now, this is a classic case of what legislation is all about. the problem we have had in recent years as we have had too little sitting down trying to work on this.

>> what extent are you taking was the house of representatives. >> i do not think that is my responsibility. how do you get the government to reopen? >> a resolution in the house. that would pass just like that. we hope we could do that for a longer time. i'm not going to do anything to harm anyone. how long would you like bcr to be? >> i would like the debt ceiling to be for 20 years. [laughter] i would like the cr to be for 10 years. we are negotiating their. i am not locked in stone. we have to be very careful.

we have this automatic sequestration that kicks in january 15. we have to take that into consideration. >> you want to resolve this before january 15? >> we have not done that yet. >> are you willing to make any changes to the obamacare? >> it is interesting how that is not part of the discussion anymore. a week ago tomorrow when the speaker was on national television, the talkshow, he started off on obamacare. that lasted about their the second. then he switched to spending. obamacare is no longer the number one issue. the number one issue to do

anything they can to divert attention from the full frame made of himself on obamacare. newton taking nothing off the table. mcconnell got a copy of that. we will talk about health care which includes obamacare. we are willing to talk about anything. >> they want the medical device tax. since you do not consider raising the debt limit a concession, do republicans have to make a deal to get what they want? >> i appreciate your job to be as inquisitive as you need to be. i'm not going to negotiate with you folks.

i have long since no longer negotiated with myself. thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> when can we go home? [laughter] >> the synod will be in tomorrow. we will have live coverage on our companion network. some of your tweet about what is going on capitol hill. david carle says government workers to get unemployment and retro pay. is that fair? a budget needs to be set before the government can reopen or else this nation will sink even different -- deeper into debt --

you can tweet us @cspanchat or you can call in. tom davis.t and with reporters around the country about how the shutdown is affecting individual states. lester calls, e-mails, all on "washington journal." is meeting with democrats on the senate. we will give you updates. this morning the president and buck mckeon talked about the government shutdown in their weekly addresses. firstly we hear from the president then representative mickey and. >> i met with both members in an effort to reopen the government and remove the dangers of

default. the positive development that house republicans have agreed on the need to avoid the economic consequences. once the debt ceiling is raised in the shutdown is over, there's a lot we can accomplish. we have created 7.5 million new jobs. let's create more. we cut our deficit in half. now let's do it in a smarter, balanced way that lets us afford to invest in the things we need to grow. there is a lot we can agree on. on ising we have to agree that there's no good reason anyone should keep suffering through the shut down. i met with some really innovative small business owners on friday who of already lost contracts, customers, and put hiring on hold. because the pain of this has shutdown to their bottom lines. citizensting the very that our government exists to serve. a growing number of republicans

say it should end now. it would be wise to just kick the debt ceiling can down the road. sterling america's credit rating would not cause global markets to become higher wire -- haywire. it would become more expensive for everyone to borrow money. students paying for college, newlyweds buying a home. it would amount to a new tax, a republican default tax on every family and business in america. it does not have to be this way. it is not supposed to be this way. manufacturing crises to extract concessions is not how our democracy works. we have to stop it. politics is a battle of ideas. you advance those ideas through legislation, not extortion. i know you're frustrated by what you see in your nation's capital right now. because it is easy to get lost in or give up on the political

back and forth, this is not normal. our government is close for the first time in 17 years. the political party is risking default for the first time since the 1700s. this is not normal. that is why we have to put a stop to it. not only because it is dangerous because his apps everyone's faith. this hurts us all. whether it is the work of creating jobs are getting our fiscal house in order, we have got a lot of work to do. constant brinksmanship does not let us do it. it inflicts real pain on real people. creates spasms of uncertainty for owners. it threatens our nation's credit and standing in the world. the longer it goes on, the more frequently this brinksmanship is afflicted. the more we will see market react, businesses put off plans to spend and hire, and unemployment plans. the hundreds of thousands of civil servants who don't even without pay were that they will

not go to cover their bills. be run for no good reason at all. i want to thank all of the neighbors and local business owners who have shown acts of country. they are being punished enough. put this back to work. let's prevent an economic shutdown. are -- there are so much that we should be focusing on. immigration that. we have a middle class to rebuild. there's so much america has going for it. this country works better when

we work together. thank you. >> i am the chairman of the house armed services committee. for all the focus on disagreements, we actually found some common ground this week. on thursday president obama signed legislation that guarantees debt benefits for families of fallen troops that will continue to be paid out during the government shutdown. we've also come together to ensure members of our american will be paid no matter what. we should not stop there. the path -- house has passed more than a dozen bills. president obama and senate democrats should back these

bills immediately. then the president shall work with us on plans to reopen the entire government. make sure we do not default on our debts. sitting down and resolving our differences is exactly what americans expect their readers to do. to that end, a group of house republicans including myself went to the white house on thursday to talk to the president and see where we can find common ground. i assure this has sounded like the typical washington drama. aboutcs is not politicians. it is about washington. it is about you and your family. building an economy that generates a good paying jobs and real prosperity. it is about making sure there is fairness for everyone under the president health care law so

that hard-working people like you get the same relief big businesses have received. it is about stemming the tide of debt and deficits that threaten to wash out an entire generations opportunities. it is ensuring that our troops in harms way and their families are taking care of. the same way they take care of us here at home. preserving the american dream. that is what this is really about. the longer we go on settling for maybe next time for this notion that putting things off until after the next election is ok, the harder this is going to get. it is a challenge. we can do this. let's get back to work together. thank you for listening. >> senate democratic leaders are meeting with the president at the white house at this hour. if the senate will be in

tomorrow. we will take you to the floor of the senate when they gavel and. theeard more about government shutdown earlier ."day on "washington journal cracks thank you for coming on. >> couple of question about your organization. what is it russian mark >> is a think tank here in washington, d.c.. answering answered how it is funded? >> we get no government grants. one of our goals is to dismantle the welfare state. our focus is on black pastors who are serving hard hit communities. you are part of this? seems like a lot of this has dealt with this. bridge howss the

they're looking at this. and your take about what is going on? we cannot go on this way anymore. an americaing from that this conflict with what is happening here in washington. the vision that the president has. the people are saying we want a nation of freedom and responsibility. we do not a secularist government. they are making their voices heard. the leaders that are speaking are also in agreement. >> does that mean they would like to see this eliminated or modify? youhen you think about how serve the core and government, it is not like ideas are not being shared.

obamacare says why don't we try to socialize this for the rest of the country as opposed to looking at this particular program that is not working for the people that we say we are trying to help. >> there is much discussion about allowing for the people that participate in this system to buy private insurance for themselves. for them to shop. ideas that paul ryan, he is coming forward with about expanding the shut down and using it as a means to talk about debt issues. what you think about the transition?

now that is dealing with larger when you look at obamacare, it is stopping a new program because of the challenges that we are happening. is pointing to the liabilities the arty have with medicaid and medicare and social security. we should have a discussion about it. this is not include entitlements. we need to have this conversation. what the left continues to do is build on top what is arty broken. without any discussion on how we're going to transition ourselves out of this. >> what are your thoughts specifically on a shutdown? just the fact they have determined to as essential and who is not the of how we transition ourselves out of these chaos.

are at a real critical crosspoint. in 1979, 20% of american people got more home government than they put in. we cannot go on like this. >> what do you think about thoughts about this debt limit that we will reach next week using the shutdown as a mean to start negotiations? do we continue to spend more money than we borrow? people toe certain pay those bills? tore are some that want this. she's joining us to about 815. if you want to give her a call and ask her a question, here is the number to call.

you can tweet a question or comment. can also send us an e-mail to. says you have seven years of first-hand experience and a group of welfare dependency. >> i believe a lot of the rhetoric that we are hearing is someone else's fault, that american is inherently racist. ofot caught up in a lot criminal activity that landed me in and out of the welfare state. wasn't until a christian conversion that i changed my life. there are americans that have changed their lives based on new information about religious conviction and personal

responsibility. when you change her life and you start saying i have an obligation to my neighbor to be responsible to my decision to start to see debt go down. these are to see responsibility increase. my life challenge in and is a challenge and a lot of people's lives today that we keep making political promises that someone else will take care of you. that person is getting weaker. >> your latest op ed, this is the budget crisis. can you expand on this? all, this is from the news service. we distributed to about 300 different outlets. people say how are you and so many places. ofm looking at this conflict vision. there are those in our society now that keith insisting that all the shutdown is the republicans part and that this

is what is driving the discussion. the tea party or are ideologues but so is the president. what they have are two separate visions for this country. >> a lot of folks say the tea party is largely the ones behind the shutdown and they're the ones that made it happen. >> they are decent people and quite communities who were finally fed it up and elected officials and what they were meant to do. thatongressional leaders are taking control are representing districts of voters who are saying we have to put this in order. >> do think there is a real discussion going on? >> the president decided he did not want to talk about these things. on, theyutdown goes are starting to realize that they must accept it. they only represent half of the country. theother half are contributors.

broken families. we should have the discussion. will we have it? will it include? maybe not. at least we're moving it forward. our first call is new york. host: our first call is from new york area and -- from new york. caller: i would like to say that the cry from the republican party is you cannot spend what you do not have. anybody who buys a car or house, they do not take all their money out of the bank and put it down on the one part of the house. to take a percentage out and save some of that money for a rainy day. what greases the wheels of this country, general motors makes more cars than people can buy.

we could buy all the refrigerators, we couldn't file the televisions without credit. without credit this whole system will collapse. host: the difference between what we do --guest: the difference between what we do in our household, we have a budget. that person who let this money also assesses it. that is what much of this debate is about. the senate will not produce a budget. when you think about head start, saying that based on the should -- based on the shutdown there were days of running out of food , what kind of budgeting have they been doing he echo what government agency would not plan for the future -- been doing yet to what government agency would not plan for the future or have collateral? we cannot continue to spend and borrow. you have to set a budget.

let's find out how much do we need, can we live, let's find out the things we do not need that we should not be paying for. let's adjust ourselves. host: walters from utah on the republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think this government shutdown thing is a good and bad thing. in my opinion it is all for posturing. i have heard several callers states that obama won the election -- maybe he did win the election but nobody has really addressed the voter fraud. every time i have gone to the polls and voted i have had to have an id to vote. they are wanting to sue states for not wanting to have voter id. you have to have an id to walk on the streets.

they want to know who you are or anything else. i believe the only way obama got in the second time is through voter fraud. there is stuff stated on news organizations where poll voters vote at several different times because they wanted their vote to count. host: thank you. guest: this discussion is not about posturing. it is about what benefit taxpayers are getting. this is about how we should move forward as a nation. should we be a biblically aced personal responsible nation or should we be a secular anything goes government nation check but this is serious was taking place right now.

when a union goes on strike, people have to adjust. there are challenges. we all hope to come out better for it. this is very serious business taking place right now. host: a "new york times" editorial what happened to the personal dignity that thinks their whole existence is tied to government. is not of circumstances exactly their future.

what we have done is we have built out dependency programs and increased slave mentality and people that are not even trying anymore because they've been told all their lives they do not have to. this is a challenge. charge of program in our most vulnerable running out of food. how do you run out of food and two weeks? i think we should have that discussion as well. i do not see private organizations running out of food or services. it is only government or they think they have an endless supply of cash or they do not budget. the senate has not produced a budget in years. they came out with a budget that no one wanted in their own house. the shutdown is painful. sometimes a little pain increases the resilience to say let's solve this problem. host: they need to be modified? where do you fall on that? guest: they need to be modified. we saw people's lives begin to change.

the red states are working. the blue states are not. blue state weller's are moving into red states -- blue state dwellers are moving into red states. when we start adjusting ourselves as a nation to say what works and what doesn't, then we will start seeing help for everyone. is there a little discomfort convert -- discomfort, yes. caller: first of all, thank you, star parker. this is a pleasant surprise. you meet -- you need to run for president. you make sense. you back up everything with facts and he did not answer around trying to be politically

correct. there are may disconnect people in this country looking exactly for that. this is what i was coined to call in for. i am listening to you and i -- this is what i was going to call and four. one thing that ties into any -- this is what i was going to call in for. my father would rub his fingers together and say, it is about values. things are of words because of the value they have. there is a sense of accomplishment and pride in achieving something you thought maybe you were not capable of doing. guest: a friend of mine told her

recently that we have no value. we had 50 years of the social engineering and we have bankrupt this community. we have collapsed america. when you think about poverty, who is poor today? people who are struggling by themselves and/or single moms. when you think about marriage, it decreases incidence of poverty. our values and our ego now make states are converged.

our values and our economic states are -- our values and our economic states are converged. one of the challenges for the middle class is that they do not pay their own bills. they insist their employers pay their own bills. that is right -- that is why the employers were in the back rooms when they were developing obamacare. we should start winking about a market-based system about how -- thinking about a market they system about how we get our health care. host: do you think a market- based system will happen?

guest: that would be the solution. the polls are showing the american people saying they do not want this. it absolutely should be postponed for a year like that congress asked for. why not allow the american people a year so that we can reassess ourselves. this was ramped down the peoples rose. -- rammed down the people's throats. they republicans did not vote for this. are we going to be able to live as a society or are we going to constantly have this war. just divide out the red states from the blue states.

i would not suggest that as an idea. the blue states are not working. where we are having republican governors, we are seeing things working. host: democrats' line. this is kentucky. hello. caller: star, someone said you were a breath of fresh air. i am thinking, where did this lady come from? why don't we go to a flat tax all the way around? have everybody pay their fair share. guest: some people are talking about that. herman cain brought that to the national discussion when he talked about 9-9-9.

the problem with this city is that they wait until there is a crisis. it is not unlike what happens in people's personal homes. finally, you say, that is enough. i am leaving. people take seriously the challenges that have been in their marriages for a long time. host: go on. on the republican line. caller: the biggest driver of the debt is medicare. people get three times more medicare than they pay for. the hypocrisy year -- here is that people are retired and they are taking their medicare. they say reform entitlements and that is a euphemism. they are not realizing that what they need to do is cut down on the amount of medicare they have. guest: that is one idea floated around washington. i would not single medicare out from social security. there are opportunities for us to transition to look at social security and allow for private auctions. people making $30,000 or less a year or art or the years old --

or are 30 years old. paul ryan pointed out in his wall street journal column just recently that the driver of this debate we are having is entitlements. neither side wants to touch them. are we going to keep the epa? we must look at entitlements. medicare and social security. host: a website takes a look at actions being touted by republicans. they write that the revised gop plan reflects the demands the president made in a meeting with the house gop on thursday. guest: it is easy to throw rocks at somebody or try to blame someone. john boehner is getting more of his share. one of the things he did when he

took over the speakership is he changed the way business was done in the house. it used to be an environment where the web had a lot of power with -- whip had a lot of power to go out and get people to vote. john boehner said, why don't you represent your district? we are having a serious discussion to get serious answers. host: some say the tea party has too much sway over the house. guest: president garfield said the representation we have is

what we deserve. if we have recklessness is -- it is because we tolerate it. if there are people in washington that people are not satisfied with, they should vote them out. we could vilify the tea party and say this is some kind of special caucus. these are decent americans in quiet communities who since representatives here to do their business. why is it that only the tea party gets the attention and we do not look at the congressional black caucus who have represented these communities for the last 60 years. look at the end result. there is a conflict of visionright there -- vision right there. that vision, that secular vision is not working for those people and it is not going to work for the rest of the people. host: from dayton, ohio on the republican line. go ahead.

caller: one of our residents once said, do not ask what the country can do for you. ask what you can do for the country. all of the ceo's should get together and have the president act on that. we have all lost 10 million livable wage jobs so that the ceo's can hire people in bangladesh at slave labor. we, the american people, are paying for it. if you go to market solutions for your health care, when was the last time any republican ever asked, let's issue are you if you have a pre-existing condition. when did that ever happen yet though -- when did that ever happened cap go -- happen? guest: 2 different discussions the caller is having.

we can look deeper and look at the fungibility of money. it is going to money because its nature is to create more of itself. it is not people sitting in a back room saying, how can i just joined the american people because i am not paying them what the caller calls a livable wage. it is this insistence on increasing minimum wages and penalizing businesses. when we think about why money goes abroad, we have to think about government regulation and taxation. host: abraham from maryland on the democrats' line. caller: everything you have said, most of it i agree upon.

they works to make him a -- works to make him a one-time president. they have come to a point where that is not working either. they decided to work against everything obama has put forth. that is not how the government is supposed to work. this has nothing to do with obamacare. this has everything to do with obama. they have come to a point that everything is not working and they decided to go back. host: thanks, caller. guest: perhaps, there is some truth to what he is saying.

we cannot say it is because of his race, which is what many on the left point to so they can shut down discussion. we let that someone who is an ideologue and has a vision with his country inconsistent with the founding of this country, you are going to have debates. for the caller to assist this is not what the country is about, this is exactly what the country is about. that is why we have a constitution. it is an operating manual. we need to have these checks and balances. for there to be people in our society who think the barack obama administration should come in and do whatever they want to do without any discussion and we have already seen results of what those ideas do, not just in our country, but abroad, that person is in deception.

there are people who care about this country from a different perspective. host: our guest is participating in the value voters summit. tell our viewers what it is. guest: the value voters summit brings together like-minded speakers and like-minded people to talk about these issues from a religious-constitutional perspective. host: one of the speakers was a doctor who said obamacare was the worst thing to happen to this nation since slavery. guest: dr. carson has been on my advisory board for a couple of years. his story has run through the black community for generations. looking at a mom who could not read, but inspired in her children, excellence. we are missing that voice in black america. when dr. carson talks about the

challenges of obamacare, we should respect that. host: louisiana, republican line. michael, go ahead please. caller: good morning. host: michael, try it again please. caller: star parker, i have never heard you speak before. how could we ever do anything right yet go show the plumber ran for congress -- that's -- guest: what the tea party coalitions have proven is that you do not have to be an insider to participate. one of the blessings we have today is that we have internet. we have google.

we have the ability to communicate to each other without being funneled through the national, mainstream media. i do not think i can agree that decent americans cannot get here and make changes. i started a nonprofit organization. i wanted to develop an organization that did not work inside, but worked on the outside on public policy issues. we look at policy. we build a grassroots initiative. when you think about the time that ben carson pointed to, slavery, we had a lot of people trying to change the course the

country was on and to expand slavery into new territories. he had a lot of people inside and some outside. one of my favorites was harriet tubman. you do not have to run for office to be engaged in it you can find local organizations to help your community. host: you ran for office one- time? guest: iran for office one-time. -- i ran for office one time. people do not want big government. they felt the community was reflecting the issues of the left. five months was not enough time and i was not able to take her out. the redrawing of the map in california helped her lose her seat this last go around. politics is still very local. i was asked to move into a district i did not live in. host: one more call. you are on with star parker. caller: good morning. hi, ms. parker. good morning. i do back the gentleman up who

said you should run for president. you are the first one who actually uses common sense with some old-fashioned values. make people responsible for themselves. i do work in a federally funded clinic. i see all kinds of things. i live in northern michigan. my community is very poor. one of the things i see our pregnancies with young girls. we have them as young as 14, 17, 18. birth control is free. not only do they do this one time, they will go out and have a second and a nerd argosy all on -- third pregnancy all on taxpayer' benefits. i do not think we should be paying for the second and third one. we need to start reforming

somewhere. we will pay for one. you need to be responsible for your behavior. guest: this is why the government should not be in the charity business. and you think about personal you responsibility and you think about what has happened in these folks' eyes, they need someone to look them in the eye and tell them this is not the role of government. we have removed from individuals their self-worth and their dignity and have allowed them to turn their lives over to somebody else. the pathologies we have seen in these communities are inevitable. you start living recklessly.

we see an increase in out of wedlock births. as a free country, a country built on personal responsibility, for us to allow this crime against humanity to continue. it is why we are having such economic challenges. much of this work is now being done by government. the left always wants to attack and have losses. we need crisis pregnancy centers or kid with these young women who have lost sight of their lives and being lost -- and are being lost in more relativism. host: what is the best case scenario for these debt limit talks? guest: perhaps they can agree to disagree. yet to the point where two sides say here is something we can agree upon. i am not sure that will happen. similar to the 1850s when we were at that critical ross point.

abraham lincoln. look at his first inaugural. he thought deliberation was the best. the second inauguration, he was going to war. i really do not know. it seems like the left has dug their heels in and the right is going to dig their heels in because there are people who are saying you must. we cannot go on his way anymore. host: star parker, the center for urban renewal and education. >> tomorrow we will talk about the government shutdown with two members that served during the 95-96 shutdown. the reporters were around the shutdown on how it is affecting individual states plus your calls, and e-mails live tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. engel is our guest

tomorrow on "newsmakers." he talks about important issues facing the u.s. including aid to egypt in serious chemical weapons. that is "newsmakers" at 6:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. or >> she taught at the clarke institute for the deaf and throughout her life she helped raise awareness about educating the need for the disabled. atcher program later today 7:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. our series continues. >> we are at the lynn henry hoover house. is significant because this shethe primary residence was the one you designed it. she has such a strong grasp of design and how she wanted it to look even though she was not an

architect. we're lucky to have a lot of the construction of how she wanted it to look. the influence came from her travels in the southwest of the united states. it is a great legacy. she designed the house. it was expired -- inspired by all aspects of the creation. >> meet first lady lou hoover at 9:00 eastern here on c-span. and c- c-span radio span.org. >> next, michele bachmann, or and bauer, sandy rios, senator rick santorum. the remarks were part of this week and the voter summit.

they spoke for about two hours. >> well, folks, our next speaker is not only the first republican woman to serve in the house of representatives for the state of minnesota, she's also the first republican woman to run for the united states of america. she has been a true champion for values voters on cutting spending, government waste, and defending the constitution. she has been the most outspoken opponent to obamacare. and as most of you know by now, next year she'll be stepping down from the house. would you use this opportunity as she comes to the podium to not only welcome her to the values voters summit, but to thank her for her amazing courage in representing our values in this nation. ladies and gentlemen, michele bachmann.

>> oh, what a beautiful sight. what a beautiful sight. thank you. you're having a good day, aren't you? i love you too. i love you too. thank you so much. thank you for being here for the values voters summit. i don't know if you noticed on your program, right now miley cyrus was supposed to be up here speaking, and they made me the substitute, so i hope that's ok for you this afternoon. ok, so here is the story. i was out walking, minding my own business as i usually do in the morning. usually i'm causing trouble in d.c., but in the mornings, i go out and i walk, and i usually am walking somewhere around the

national mall and somewhere around the memorial. so i was out walking, as i said, minding my own business, enjoying the beautiful day. it was about 80 degrees out. and all the sudden on my phone, in came an email, and it was from one of my fellow colleagues, who i'm sure you all know and love, steve king of iowa, and the email came in, and it said this -- it said that there was an honor flight coming in to the world war ii memorial, and he said that there are barricades up and there will be many, many of our finest generation that will be there, the greatest generation, and it was an all points bulletin for members of congress to come and face down the national park service and open up the world war ii memorial. so i went in my mom clothes. that's what i walk around in in the morning. i went over to the memorial, and i went from the back side, and i

couldn't believe my eyes. because here were tour buses facing the world war ii memorial, fairly narrow strip of sidewalk, and iron barricades had been set up with police tape. so i pulled out my camera. i took the photos, because i thought, when are you ever going to see world war ii vets shut out of their own memorial? my step dad had just taken an honor flight as an 89-year-old together with my 88-year-old uncle, highlight of their life. my uncle had subsequently passed away from taking that honor flight, and i thought to myself, really? you would say no to an 84 to 99- year-old and prevent them from coming in and seeing their own monument? so i ran over. steve was standing next to the bare yes. i yelled charge, and away we go, and we opened the barriers. \[applause] you can try your petty tyrannies, but you're never going to succeed.

every single day since that fateful morning, we have had members of congress at the honor flight, including this last saturday. steve king told me that there are going to be 10 honor flights coming that day and did we want to go and take a patriotic tour and make sure that we would be there for every honor flight. so we went down. i had a big contingent from my home state of minnesota, and we were there to make sure that those memorials were open. but then after we had done our duty, it was actually 90 degrees on saturday, and by the way, in an additional act of pettiness, the obama administration also when it's 90 degrees, decided to turn off the water fountain on the national mall on saturday. but they went one worse.

they shut down the public bathrooms that were needed to be required for those who are there, the world war ii veterans. and so steve and i said let's keep going, we're not done. so we opened up the world war ii memorial, and then we went on to the vietnam memorial. the vietnam memorial also had barricades around it, and it even went better. it had a national park service ranger standing in front. you never see park rangers in front of these memorials ever. they're open to the public. then we saw a female police officer holding a german shepherd. you want to talk about an act of intimidation to keep people out? and we said what's going on, officer, why aren't the people allowed to come in? well, the memorials are closed, and i'm volunteering. and so i said to him, you volunteer to do this? so after that, we asked him, who's allowed to come in, because they had a narrow opening. they said those who went to serve in vietnam and the family

members of those who lost people on the wall. now think of the discretion -- i give you just this example -- think of the discretion and the power that the commander in think of the discretion and the power that the commander in chief has given to himself, and that's our symbol. that's our symbol. and so steve and i said no, this is a first amendment right to come into this memorial. we physically lifted up the iron barriers. we put them to the side. we said come in, and come all. this is your memorial. you're americans, and come on in. hundreds of individuals came into that memorial, and then we decided to leave and see what was happening at the korean memorial.

that is a very difficult memorial to put barricades around, but the park service managed to do it. we walked up again to the ranger. we asked the ranger what was going on. we heard the same song and dance. so once again, we had americans in wheelchairs and mothers with baby strollers and so we did the same thing. we opened up that barrier, and we got the korean war memorial open, and people were able to go in, and they were able to go out. from there we walked over to the lincoln memorial, one of the most infamous memorials to see yellow police tape barricading, as well as barricades. as steve and i stood in front of the memorial, we saw a grandmother and a grandfather with their 10-year-old grandson, and they said to us, you know, we asked our grandson on his 10th birthday, which was last saturday, where would you like

to go for your 10th birthday, and he could have gone anywhere in the united states. he could have gone to disneyland. but he told us he wanted to see the lincoln memorial, and we're here today for our grandson, we don't know what to do. so i turned to steve, and i said you know what we got to do. and he's not going fight anymore with me. so we went up to the barrier. a woman was listening to us. steve had his wire cutters in his pocket, because that's what we need now, and so we went up to the barrier, and one woman said this one doesn't have any wire on it. so once again steve and i lifted up the iron barriers. we moved them aside. we took our scissor. we cut the police tape. he and i went up the steps. we had some other people with us. we said come, let's go up, let's take this hill. 600 americans took the lincoln memorial on saturday. \[applause] we took that hill, and this is the police lineup tape.

this is our consolation prize. and so the obama -- this is our symbol. you see the obama administration is turning us into a police line. i say we are not a police line. you can choose that or, mr. president, you can choose to follow article two in the constitution of the united states. because you have absolutely no right to irrigate that level of power to yourself, just like we saw this last week, with the inn on the blue ridge parkway in north carolina. we had heard from mark meadows, members of congress, last friday morning that unbelievably the united states government was going to shut down a private --

with no federal money and no federal employees. we heard that friday morning. that afternoon i picked up my phone in my office. i called the owner of the inn, and i said you're a member of congress, i was told your predicament. members of congress will stand with you. at 1:15 in the afternoon, the owner said to me, you better act quick, because there's blue lights flashing in my driveway right now. they're shutting the gate to my hotel. so i told him, grab your cell phone camera, go out, take pictures of what's going on, and you show america what's happening to a private business owner. that afternoon i called my husband, and i said think of this. this is the 18th government shutdown since the time of jimmy carter, although some people say the four years of jimmy carter was probably the longest american shutdown. but i called my husband, and i said to him, now just think, in the next shutdown, we own two private health clinics, and i said now, imagine, obamacare

came online during this shutdown. so in the future, people will presumably purchase health insurance if they can get to them in these private exchanges, so in the future in a shutdown, will we see another president obama move where he puts padlocks on a private clinic like ours just because we might be able to take insurance? will they stop a kidney transplant just in process? will they stop a scheduled c- section in process? what will they do? who would have ever thought you'd shut down the lincoln memorial or the world war ii memorial? who would have thought they'd ever shut down pheasant season in minnesota after you've already bought your permit? who would have thought on a state highway in front of mount rushmore there would be barriers and cones so that people couldn't get in on a state highway to be able to see mount rushmore? who would have ever thought it?

oh, i love the fight of people in south dakota, because they removed the cones. they removed the barriers. the obama administration put it back. four feet of snow fell and the snowplows pushed the cones and the barriers down the canyon. take that! you see, this is a big fight. we're supposed to be ashamed that this fight is about obamacare. i'm not. i'm not ashamed. when obamacare passed, i was there that night grieving, weeping on the floor when obamacare passed, i had made the first call to the american people, and i called you all to come in to washington, d.c., to look at the whites of the eyes of the members of congress and say to them, want with my healthcare you don't. 40,000 of you responded and came to washington, d.c.

that created the rise of the tea party, and that created the victory that pulled the gavel out of nancy pelosi's hand in 2010. that was the tea party that did that. the night that obamacare passed, i turned to mike pence on the floor, now the governor of the state of indiana, and i said, mike, we have to tell the american people that we haven't waved the white flag of surrender on socialized medicine. i said somebody's got to introduce the bill to repeal it. he said go for it, michele. i did. i went back to my office, wrote the repeal bill, and i was the first one on the floor the next morning. i introduced the repeal bill. steve king later that day also introduced a repeal bill. we've been fighting ever since. this is consequential, because it is life and death for the american people, and for the american economy. it's worth fighting over. but this fight that we're in right now is far bigger than even the obamacare fight, far bigger, it's far bigger than the national bankruptcy that is

impending upon our nation right now, that is putting our children's future at risk. it's bigger than the debt. it's bigger than the spending. because i said what is at risk in all of this is whether we will be the police line state or whether we will be a constitutional republic. it is that grave and that consequential, because an election was had. the results were what we all wanted to see, but an election was had. we have a democrat president. we have a democrat-controlled senate. but we have a republican- controlled house. by virtue of the election of the american people, they said we

will have a divided government and a divided government we have. and we will not silence the voice of the american people in this fight. because you see, if the president can be petty as he is, you see it firsthand in these death benefits that are denied to the fallen. as if it wasn't enough to leave our men on the field in benghazi, now he is using our soldiers as political pawns. this is the height of throwing under the bus some of the most innocent victims that there are. we do not forget, and we do stand, and we do fight, and i say to you all, this isn't the time for caving. this is the time for standing. and i am proud of the leadership in the house. usually i am fighting the leadership in the house, like about 99% of the time.

i am here to say to you, i've been extremely proud that we have stood, because what i have seen is that fight and resolve that says the people count, and you've got to pay attention. that's why to me, when it comes to obamacare, i have stood for repeal, i have begged for defund. thank you, ted. thank you, mike. i have stood for that. but i believe what we must stand for now is to make sure that obamacare is voluntary for everyone in the united states. the best line this week was how can we possibly force 100% of americans to be taxed to pay for a product they don't to want buy from a website that does not work? and so, therefore, whether you are a big business. whether you are a small business. whether you are an average american, which is the greatest

thing in the world to be, whether you are a doctor, a nurse, a medical device manufacturer, an insurer, whoever you are, this egregious system that will be ultimately known as death care must be defeated. and you see, this is our line in the sand of police state versus constitutional republic. this is it. when the federal government controls your healthcare, they literally control life and death. and so i say we should do no less than demand that president obama allow obamacare to be voluntary for every american. no forcing anyone to go into this system. if you thought the n.s.a. was looking at your private data, you haven't seen anything until these federal hubs are created. i'll end with this. you see, it was 1,281 years ago

today that charles martell won the victory. that day changed the course of history. for 100 years, the islamist marauders had won battle after battle after battle and were moving their fear and their tyranny across the world. you see, charles martell stood up against that, the famous, brilliant victor davis hanson wrote an article, this military historian told us about what this meant for the rise of modern europe. you see, it was the persecution and it was the suffering that was brought about by this islamic insurgency that brought about the unity from charles martell, where they literally stood shoulder to shoulder with their shields up and their javelins pointed, and they won that divisive battle.

and charlemagne became the father of modern europe, and christian europe and the values of christian europe prevailed, and ultimately led to those same immigrants coming to the united states and creating this magnificent country. you see battles count. you need to know when to fight. this is the time to fight. this is our moment for pass period of time. and i thank god that we finally have the will to stand up, take on this oppressive president, and stand for what is good and righteous and true. it's a battle of our time. you choose. you choose. it's a battle of our time. god bless you, and god bless the united states of america. god bless you! [applause]

>> all right. let us compose ourselves. no, this is a call to action, and you can do something about that, make that call to the capitol switchboard. call your congress people from your state. let them know where you stand on obamacare, and be sure to pick up a stand t-shirt at our registration. show your values. go to our registration desk and you can get all kinds of bumper stickers, t-shirts, whatever you need. our next speaker grew up in the civil rights movement led by her uncle, dr. martin luther king. but also with her father, reverend a.d. king, and her mother, naomi king.

she currently serves as a pastoral associate and director of african-american outreach for priests for life and gospel of life ministries. she's also a voice for the silent no more awareness campaign sharing her personal testimony about abortion, god's forgiveness and healing. she is the recipient of the life pride award and also the cardinal john o'connor pro-life hall of fame in 2011. she's also a best-selling author. among her books is "how can the dream survive if we murder the children.? ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome to the podium right now, dr. alveda king. \[applause] >> praise the lord. praise the lord.

praise the lord. hallelujah. praise the lord. thank you so much. can you raise your hands just like this for a second and help me just a little bit, and then die have some words to share. then sings my soul my savior god to thee take it to the end. how great thou art how great thou art glory to god. he is worthy he is worthy. i tell you such power, such truth that i have heard from everyone who has spoken today and i thank god for each of you and your presence as well. i have written some remarks. oh please follow with me. as we stand together today, praying for faith, family and opportunity for all, we can only be amazed by the hope that is rising among we the people.

as a approach my 10th year. we must believe that love will carry us over difficult bridges. we are indeed facing turbulent times. you may remember that last year a man was sentenced to 41 months in federal prison for threatening the life of father frank dimon. here in d.c., the family research council however faced more than a threat. you endured an attack on the lives of everyone of the frc staff. a gay-rights activist enters the frc building with enough ammunition to kill everyone in it. he came to the frc as a gunman, fueled by hatemongering

a gay-rights activist enters the frc building with enough ammunition to kill everyone in it. he came to the frc as a gunman, fueled by hatemongering from the southern poverty law center. the shooter admitted he was directed to the location by the severn policy -- while sdlc claims to fight against hate, they have been saying hateful things about the family research council and other groups who are represented here today. by the grace of god, the heroism and the heroism of f frc security officer mr. leo johnson, who took a bullet, yes, yes, yes. god bless him and his family. who took a bullet from the shooter, many deaths were averted.

today, the shooter is behind bars as a result of being convicted for domestic terrorism. but the fc lc and many others who count hate and anger and false claims of civil rights activism still roam free to confuse the masses with their deception. friends, nick no mistake, no matter our political affiliations or our church denominations or our personal desire issue of the day, we are now called together to humbly fight the good fight. yes, yes, yes. so together in unity and love for humanity, we gird ourselves with the truth. we carried a shield of faith. our sort is not a spinning soundbite or a focus group, but the word of god. please permit me to give you a personal confession. at the top of my list of regrets

are the deaths of three of my children. one through miscarriage and to buy abortion. down the list, i regret having said to a group of peers that my uncle dr. martin luther king jr. was a republican. yes, my grandfather, dr. martin luther king senior was a registered republican, but uncle ml was an independent. as a rich and and civil rights activist, he follows the path of not publicly endorsing a political party or candidate. he once wrote, not the servant or master of either. i am not inextricably bound to your party. as one who has been elected to the georgia house of representatives as a democrat, and who has been a presidential appointee in a republican administration, i'm beginning to

understand the wisdom of my uncle ml. my name is not to become involved -- my aim is not to become involved in political squabble but to speak the truth as best i can. we are commanded to pray for those in authority and i know that we all do that. we also pray for our nation, understanding that human reasoning and human solutions are too finite to bring an ultimate resolution to our problems. the saddest and sickest part longs for the gift of salvation in christ. recently -- recent remarks by pope francis remind us that human beings have immediate problems in their lives and these are not limited to the great moral questions of our time. hope francis says that he must deal with the entire human condition, not just the pressing questions, abortion and marriage. yet he is not suggesting that there is in any way a license to sin. rather, he is advocating for a license to repent, to be healed and to be delivered from human failings.

human issues, social issues are intertwined. abortion, for instance, cannot be separated from the breakdown of the family, which cannot be separated on the attack on natural procreative marriage. neither can abortion be separated from human trafficking, rape, child abuse or host of other issues. i believe that when pope francis was looking at the entire human condition, he is speaking to every human heart and so must we. what i look at this human condition today, i see evil triplets, a three headed monster, racism, reproductive genocide and sexual perversion. it will take jesus to set that record straight. hallelujah, glory to god. [applause] i once thought that white people killed my uncle. i told you this was a confession. not just one white man or a conspiracy of white men, but all white men were responsible.

i father, reverend king corrected me. he said, alveda, you cannot hate white people. what people do not kill your father, the devil did. before that, i thought that god wanted me to hate white people and i was angry with god for creating white people and the human condition called racism. you see how confused i was. it took my earthly father and my heavenly father to help me realize that acts 27:17 was true. we are all of one human blood. hallelujah. hallelujah. [applause] i have met people who battle with sexual perversion and human sexuality issues. for example, i have met, according to matthew 19, some people who may have been born gay, some people who may have

been made gay, the bible says unit, but it does not only mean castration, it comes in many forms. and some people who have chosen to be gay. on the other hand i have met people who were born with conditions are developed conditions of sickness and disease in their bodies, hype blood pressure, heart problems, all kinds of issues. i myself have suffered from a human error called abortion. yet i have been forgiven and healed by the blood of jesus. so there, hallelujah, so there's no human condition, whether it is lost or sickness or greed or any condition of the heart the body or the soul that cannot reach your it, healed or delivered and set free and transforms by the blood of jesus. hallelujah. [applause] hallelujah. if we were born a certain way, no matter what way that was, we

can be born again. hallelujah. so therefore we must all embrace each other what might uncle ml called the beloved community. in love we must carry all our cares to the lord and leave them there. today, we are at an impasse, or seeming impasse over obamacare. the president says that if we won't pay for free birth control and abortion, he won't let the government operate. my friends, i have daughters and granddaughters. they need free poisoned birth control and life destroying abortion like they need holes in their heads. oh no. [applause] what are families need is good education, decent and safe living environments, the job is a grown-up and good work ethics and moral values. they need the security of living in a world free of terrorism. any healthy bodies and a healthy growing economy. they need so much and washington is not delivering a check banked on a solid foundation.

recently as i went through airport security, the tsa officer was so sad that i had to stop and pray for him before i made it through check on it. this is really the good truth. the officer was on salary for low, but was required to work anyway because the shutdown prevented him from getting a salary. after the prayer i received a very somber thank you and my credentials were then returned to me. what is so amazing to me is that our veterans and others are being needlessly and directly impacted with no end in sight for relief. why must veterans and honest, hard-working americans suffer so that forcibly subsidize birth control and abortions can reign. this summit is so important and i'm so glad to see all of you. we can pray together for those in it or easily can lead peaceful and not deceitful lives. you can elect government

officials who have hearts for righteousness. my uncle ml in his 1967 christmas sermon spoke these words. quote we are children of god in his image and therefore must be respected as such. when we truly believe in the sacredness of human personality, we won't exploit people, we won't trample over people with the iron feet of oppression. we won't kill anybody. i am encouraged to see what we are not waiting anymore. we the people, red and yellow, black and white all precious in god's sight are crossing every barrier to march to the polls and vote for true freedom and true liberty. as we move ahead, may god bless and guide us, amen and glory, hallelujah.

his truth is marching on. glory! [applause] [laughter] [applause] >> our next speaker, gary bauer was so disappointed because he wanted to start off with singing, but now that has been stolen. i do want to say about her next speaker that he is one of the original pioneers of the pro- life, profamily and pro-growth values family movement for more than three decades. many leaders quote from ronald reagan. this man actually served in his administration as his undersecretary of education and chief domestic policy adviser for eight years. he has served as senior vice president for focus on the family and also is president of the family research council and

ran for president of the united states in 2000. today, he serves as chairman of campaign for working families pac, and dedicated to electing conservative candidates to congress and is president of american values. ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome columnist, radio talkshow host and true values voter pioneer, gary bauer. [applause] >> thank you, thank you very much. i appreciate that. i think i tell you this every year. when you give somebody a standing ovation you really put them on the spot. ronald reagan told me once that the white house that after i got out of the administration and would speak more than if i ever got a standing ovation when i was

introduced i should sit down immediately because i had nowhere to go but down after that. so i am proceeding at my own risk, my friends. still, it was a very warm welcome. how many of you were here today when senator cruise had to put up with that unpleasantness in the audience? [applause] folds, don't miss what this is about, ok? this is what the political left in america is today. this is the kind of harassment that you are subjected to if you are michele bachmann are you or ted cruz or you are the congressmen that were appeared a little while ago. anybody that comes to the city and stands for your values, they just don't get into debates,

they're have to deal with an opponent, they are harassed. it is the politics of personal destruction. ted cruz campaigned on stopping hillary clinton and the president will welcome the families of the dead men that were killed in benghazi. they were saying to these families, our hearts go out to you. we're going to get to the bottom of this. we will find out who did this. ladies and gentlemen, we now know they knew then you did it. to think that when hillary clinton goes around the country speaking she has to deal with hecklers in the audience? the way ted cruz does? come to think of it, maybe we ought to start adopting some of their tactics. unbelievable, unbelievable. anyway, my friends, this is all