impact on whales in terms of lack of u.s. federal presence in this two-week stretch? example, commerce, certainly internationally, has been affect did. -- things like the ability for etc., to call embassies, has been affected because authorities are not getting paychecks. which means, if you have relatives, and i have a lot of ,elatives in the united states if you look at the whole global situation, they wanted to come over to the u.k. -- they had to cancel their trip in fear they might lose their job. causing trade and commerce

issues because toryism is going to be affected -- tourism is going to be affected. i do not know if both parties still think it is the 1970's or the 1980's, but it is a global economy and both parties need to be ashamed of themselves. i say more so the republicans, but that is for an american to judge, and not from an outsider's perspective, but it is the 21st century. it is not just the u.s. economy. so much for your time. host: we appreciate your input. from wales, matthew. larry is on the democrats line. caller: thank you for having me. i live in the florida keys. i will go back to what the journalist from the tampa paper said about terrorism.

there was a big protest. is number one economy here tourism, and number two is fishing, which goes with that. florida bay is closed because it is part of the national park. therefore, all of the fisherman and tour guides that fish on that part of the water, all of their charters are shut down. they cannot fish. there are families that have two for aor a year or week of fishing. they are not inexpensive. s.ere were about 150 boat

>> -- host: did you say you are a charter captain? caller: no, i am a journalist, believe it or not. there was a protest with 150 boats, which is different from the atlantic side, because they are not affected. , rather than sitting there with protest signs and people saying please let us fish, they would have been out with families who have saved for years and came down here strictly to go fishing on florida bay. the drawback from that, of course, is lack of hotel rooms -- these people are not going to the restaurant. host: is there any talk in the state -- the governor of arizona, the governor in new

york, they have reopen the statue of liberty, the grand canyon. governors have taken the lead. governor scott -- has there been any discussion? caller: governor scott, in a statement from flat-out said we are not going to make up the federal money to open these things up when the federal government is the problem. rick scott is not a very popular governor down here among democrats or republicans, for that matter, but he has flat-out statement we will not do what other states have done, like new york opening the statue of liberty, and things like that. reporter from alabama talked about the shutdown of nasa employees. what can you tell us about cape canaveral? caller: i cannot tell you about

cape canaveral, but we have a naval air station key west down the topd that is where pilots go before they go overseas in their fighter jets. we have such an open area where they can train over the water. they are not residential areas. they come down to the naval air station and train. host: have they closed down training? caller: they did not close down training, but they did for low on the -- furlough all of the civilian defense workers. as far as i know, the civilian defense workers are now back, but the contractors, as has been stated earlier, are not being hired back.

host: thank you for your input. from twitter, and aside -- anybody checking on the u.s. space -- space station? is it closed, not that anybody would be visited by the tommy ommie russians. laura in cortland, ohio. hello. that will do it. caller: hi. i am listening to this program and i am hearing all of these people that are so dependent for everything they have on the government, and we are spending $20,000 per person for entitlements that are not helping them. .18,000 is the poverty level

it should not be happening where we are spending this kind of money in the wrong places. it is contributing to poverty and our systems are set up to help those people that are doing it all wrong. we need to be putting this into education. i do not know if obamacare is the right answer, but people using the emergency room for their family doctor is certainly not. we are putting money in the wrong places. host: thank you, laura. we're taking your comments on the affect of the shutdown on your state. we welcome your calls. we are joined next by dan boyd from "the albuquerque journal," their capital bureau reporter. thank you for joining us.

guest: my pleasure. host: one of your recent pieces was "impact of shutdown wide ranging in new mexico." what does that cover? guest: we have seen federal employees for load and national parks and monuments being shut down. new mexico is one of the states that for better or worse as a reliance on government spending, so we have seen the impact in a number of ways. is one of theco states with the highest per capita number of federal employees. of the number, what percentage have been for load? load? guest: i do not know the exact number. it could get higher this week if as thetdown continues laboratories have told employees that most of them would be

furloughed at the end of the week. of those employees considered essential for national defense or security? they have been able to keep operations going. they had a budget they were able to use to carry over, and even if they were furloughed, and los alamos they would keep about 600 of their 10,000 employees to protect the nuclear material at the laboratory, which is obviously sensitive. still, we are talking about more than 90% that would be furloughed. host: a survey shows that new mexico is also one of the states

, one of the top 10, with the most federal contracting dollars. outside ofpillover just federal employees. are we seeing that affect other parts of the economy? guest: i have heard that anecdotally. i do not know if we have the figures yet, but at the state level, there is concern about adjusting next year's budget to compensate for that because of the ripple effect on the economy and folks not out there spending as much money. ofnow that is on the radar state leaders and something they are concerned about. host: arizona governor jan brewer announced the grand canyon would open with state funds. governor talking about any state funding for opening up parks and federal areas in new mexico? governor susana

martinez about that, and she said at this point new mexico was not planning to do that, it was a federal response ability, it,if they cannot pay for the state will not step up and do it. we have 11 national parks and monuments in the state. when you talk about tourism, it is a big difference. host: dan boyd is with "the albuquerque journal." you can read him at ab qjournal.com. thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. host: we go to albert in missouri on our democrat line. caller: i want to make arguments about how people have called and about how their states are not effected.

i looked at the state and federal government bids website. are beingse bids deactivated, or on hold at this time. that means repairs to your roads, and payments to your -- thoughunity supported by the federal and state government -- they are not being made. if they are not affecting you and your area, i say stay in your cabin, because you are get to where you are going. that? can you imagine the fed website for bids? caller: it is called the state

and federal bids. i rented out the sheet for missouri. we have people in belleville, illinois, right across the river, and they are being put out. i guess they might only repair it to the middle of the river. you could call it an illinois problem, but since they both go both ways, one would assume missouri as people being laid off as a result, and of course they know they are. if you do not know that, and you are just angry because you are one party or another, you need to buy a computer, go to a library, read your newspaper. it seems like there are a lot of people uninformed about the devastation this is causing. host: let's hear from maryland. bonnie is on the republican line. good morning.

bonnie, go ahead. are you there? there you are. go ahead. isler: yes, what upsets me as soon as they got furloughed, they went right to unemployment, and in maryland they are going to get paid twice. they are not going to go after them for unemployment. why should they get double dipped for doing nothing? remark, hit them where it hurts, and harry reid told the one governor, don't screw it up for us, and that means he is not going to make any concessions? why? this old man needs to go. a state has the highest unemployment of any state in the u.s., and it is ridiculous.

host: oklahoma. james. independent line. caller: i am going to talk about obamacare. the republicans -- i really do not know what to say. should the republicans go with what obama is trying to do and get the government back open. i mean, that is what i think should happen. people --ays thought what happened to we, the people? what happened to that? they are not listening to the people. ain't worrying about the people. i understand there is debt, but i want to know what happened to all of the money we pay for

taxes? from james calling oklahoma, one of the top 10 states affected, with the most veterans per capita on the wallet of -- hub survey of state. let's go to nottingham, england. i'm sorry, binghamton, new york. go ahead. caller: yes, the reason i am calling in is about the states. we have lockheed martin here. because of the sequester, they lost contracts and people. on, with this going lockheed martin has had to lay people off again, and it affects all of us. my husband works for lockheed martin. sequester, what they have

done, and what the republicans continue to do -- and i do not think enough people are watching the hearings and the broadcast of c-span -- if they would see what john boehner and the republicans have done in the house and the rules committee -- for god sake, they keep changing the laws of there and what can be brought to the floor. the democrats are not able to know. go, they sit, and the next thing you know they have a rules committee, and they come out on the floor and the rules have changed. yesterday, it was shown, i do not know how many times, and i do not know how many american people are watching the hearings. they would see the impact. this impacts all of america. the stock market -- everybody was fold. you wait until monday morning.

people never pay attention to the stock market because they think it does not affect me because they have a pension. those pensions are in stocks. people have 401(k)s. those are in the stock market. this affects all of us. me and my husband have worked hard all of our lives. we are all veterans. my children are. i have a child who has a masters degree working for $10 an hour. i have another that is a veteran working for $7.25. you cannot live on those rages -- wages. you cannot pay rent. they are cutting food stamps. i have a 78-year-old sister. they cut her food stamps. $16 a month. $16 a month. host: thank you for sharing your story. we go to our international line. nottingham, england. we are talking about how the

government shutdown is affecting state across the u.s.. what is your take? caller: thank you for taking my call. we are fascinated about american politics. american people do not know how to differentiate between what is a life necessity and economic necessities. health care in europe is considered a life necessity because like a fire brigade, if your house is burning, you firemen to pay you money so the fire is out. health care is a necessity. appreciate thet difference between life assess the teeth and economic necessities. -- life necessities and economic necessities.

defense is a life necessity. nobody talks about how much you spend in defense, but when you come to health care and welfare for the disadvantaged, we just do not understand it in europe how americans view what is life and economic necessities. could somebody give me a light as to what is in the mind of americans? what is so different between us, europeans and americans? why do they view everything as economic except fire and defense? host: a view from overseas. here is how the bbc is reporting on the shutdown. they read about the opening of the grand canyon yesterday -- right about the opening of the grand canyon yesterday.

next, grass valley, california, democrats line. robert. hello. caller: hi. first off, there is a spending problem, and that is we have a lot of spending that was not accounted for in the 2000 years for the wars that we fought, and therefore we have to pay for those, and the only way we can pay for those is to get an

increase in taxes, which we have not done. now, as far as the state goes, the big problem in the states without having the spending is the restaurants, the hotels, the taxicabs, the airlines -- any underlying that we are not getting money spent from the people that are supposed to be making wages and --ations here people have vacations. people have vacations land and they cannot go to the national parks because they are closed. host: thank you. we are joined by scott reckard, a financial staff reporter for " wholos angeles times, joins us to talk about the impact on california. thank you for joining us. guest: good morning, bill. host: your focus is the affect on fha and other funding.

what is the status of the fha office and fha funding in california and in particular after the shutdown? well, in california, they have offices that are nearly entirely shutdown, but this has had very little effect on new fha lending. we were very surprised to hear that. going into this, they said something like 64 out of nearly 3000 fha employees would be available, full timers. it did not sound like much, 2%, but it turns out the loans have continued to float. host: were there disruptions with people able to access things online? things like that? guest: i do not know about accessing things online. it is hard to get information if you need an exception to normal

policies. it would be difficult to do those things. what we are seeing -- what i was surprised to see, is how completely computerized and automated these systems are him and not just at the fha, but also fannie and freddie. as long as they do not crash, the loans are still being issued. host: is it too early to tell the impact in terms of the processing of loans, and before that, home sales -- people going out to look and making offers on homes? guest: it probably is. there is certainly a psychological impact. lenders will tell you they are worried about the effect on consumer confidence. they feel the housing recovery has been good, but fragile, and it is dependent on the fact that people are confident home prices are going up against. if you take that piece -- going up again. if you take that piece away, and people differ borrowing decisions, etc., that could

undermine the housing market. host: assuming some sort of settlement happened here in washington, in terms of a backlog for authorization of loans, how long would that take to clear? guest: it might not take that long. we are seeing the loans be processed through. one of the key things people were worried about was the irs was no longer providing transcripts. it could give you a borrowers tax return, and you like getting it from them because you know at least that is exactly what the guy told the irs he makes. you cannot get those. what is happening is the lenders are getting the tax return from the borrower, the bank statement from the month in which the borrower either got a refund from the government or wrote a check to the government, so you can see if that matches the tax returns, and they are going ahead as usual. now, they fill out a form -- the borrower does, that you give to

the irs, and then you get confirmation. of course, there is a huge backlog in processing those things. there are also some technical parts of the mortgage market that are backing up, and certainly there would be problems if this continues on in terms of the backlog. it looks like we could handle it if we got things back in order here soon. host: in the survey, no surprise california is one of the top 10 states that rely most on real estate. i know you focus on california, but is there any indication that california's situation with fha loans are being replicated across the country? guest: it is hard for me to say that. for a long time, we never really covered fha loans. before the crisis, the maximum amount on fha loans with very low compared to the normal home price in california.

it was not an important part of the market. it has become so. here in california, as elsewhere, as we get further away from the crisis itself, we see the share from the fha diminish. it had gotten up to be five percent of all loans. it is down to -- 35% of all loans. it is down to about 15% right now. from -- scottcord reckard from "the los angeles times." thank you for being with us. guest: great to be with you. host: let's hear from ted in ohio. caller: the trickle-down effect on the state of ohio has not been affected, it is unfortunately we have more people unemployed than actually working, and i think washington has not listen to us and has led the industry go overseas.

it goes back to the debt ceiling -- how much can this country afford to spend? it was an insult when i heard somebody say if we cannot meet , what is chinat going to say? it should be about what we say to ourselves, what we pass along to our kids and grandkids. we have to turn this thing around and cut down what we are spending, especially when you see john kerry, of the plane incident andnghazi everybody is waiting at him for the millions of dollars he gave out overseas -- waving at him for the millions of dollars he gave out overseas. host: thank you for the call. he brought up secretary john kerry. a late story here from "the washington post" on the deal between the u.s. and afghanistan -- the status of forces agreement

here is paul. he is arkansas. go ahead. craig, alaska. i am sorry. caller: i am a veteran. vietnam war in

thailand. thailand.agreement in my daughter served in iraq and cozumel, and i want to tell my thatans that i am insulted the obama administration sent off the world war ii memorial. veteran,insult to any an insult to the servicemen that are serving right now. it is a crying shame. the republicans are not the ones that are at fault on this thing. the democrats are the ones they -- that are holding this up. not written into the constitution as a federal responsibility. .his is a crying shame as far as alaska, the fishing

, so we are not been affected, but it is a crying shame that are blocking off a parking space in front of rushmore. it is really sad. saying that the republicans are at fault, they are trying to do something to stop this trillion dollars a year in debt. somebody has to do something to get this resolved, and the democrats sure as hell are not doing it. host: thank you. another half hour of your calls on how the government shutdown is affecting your state. we are also on twitter and facebook. the senate is in today to to carry thete debt proposal into 2014.

it was blocked yesterday. no house session today, but they will be back on monday here, live on c-span. texas. carol are you there? morning?are you this -- caller: how are you this morning? host: find. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to comment on how the debt ceiling is affecting people here. the company i work for sells equipment to the military, and the people in procurement our civilian contractors, and that side of our business is shut down because those people are furloughed. the only other thing that i have heard about locally is from people in the mortgage business or in real estate. my boss's wife is a mortgage broker and she has five deals on

hold because of problems with either the fha or the v.a. in processing the loans. host: right. caller: the only other comment -- i talked with my brother who is a loan officer in a bank, and i asked him what he thought the effect would be when we default on the debt this coming week, and the only thing he had to say was he was not sure what the effect would be. he did not think it would be good because he said the banking confidence, and if you destroy that confidence, ,hen you will start seeing effectively, runs on the bank, but it will be on a large scale with people who have large-scale holdings in banks. i guess, my only other thing to say is when i read the constitution, and this goes back

caller, he was talking about how disappointed he was with people. i am disappointed with both sides. if you read the first three articles in the constitution, they set up the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of our government, and nowhere in there does it say at some point they should take steps to shut themselves down and stop themselves from working, so i am sides onted on both this issue, and i think it is reprehensible that they would even consider default. it is a mistake. host: before i let you go, you mentioned you are a contractor. what kind of equipment do you sell? caller: heavy equipment. bulldozers and stuff like that. host: we appreciate you being on the line with us. in huntington, west

virginia. democrats line. you.r: good morning to what is your name? host: it is bill. is that important? i like to make it personal heard host: it -- personal. host: it is not about me, it is about you, so go ahead with your comment. caller: i have a personal story about sharing this government down and doing away with the assistance that we give to people. family, distant relatives to me, i have helped them a little bit, and they recently wrote me a letter and told me they were in bad shape. andught some groceries, decided to go by their home and drop it off. when i got there, they were sitting in the dark, no power, no electricity.

host: this is recently? this past week? this past week, sir. i live in huntington, west virginia. we are in coal country. times are tough. we have to struggle. -- rabbit down here in appalachia. the drug companies make as many pills as they can sell to get out to people. , thiss a consequence little family, of that type of thing, but there was a two euros child in that house with no -- two-year-old child in that house with no toys, no television, nothing to give him any stimulus. for all the people that are going on to church, and for all of the people at the values

conference, and for all of us, i would like to say this -- they brought children for him to touch, and he in view them, but jesus said let the children come to me. the kingdom of god belongs to them. weber does not accept the kingdom of god like a child will never enter it, and he put his arms around them, held his hands upon them, and blessed them. as he was started on a journey, a stranger asked good master, what must i do to achieve eternal life. jesus said what you call me good? no one is good but god alone. you know the commandments. host: thank you for your words and your comments. we will let you go there. jackson, mississippi, jill on our independent line. caller: hi. my name is jill and i was just

calling to let you know what as anf dealings independent person who mind their own business deals with from day to day. widowed of a veteran, and everything -- my livelihood depends on the government. i have medicare. thank goodness. i am thankful for my medicare, and i do have my v.a. insurance, but when it comes to going to the doctor and certain doctors for certain problems, a specialty field, not just your general practitioner, they will .ccept your medicare

they will accept your government insurance. changeds any of this since the shutdown? caller: the kicker is you have to pay up front and they will file it for you, they will acknowledge it, they will see you, but you have to pay out-of- pocket when you get there for the visit, and then have medicare and the v.a. reimburse you. host: jill is from mississippi, one of the top 10 states affected by social security funding services. allok at the survey and sorts of issues affecting states across the country. look here at mississippi been one of the 10 states. peach grove, indiana. line.s on the republican caller: how are you doing this morning?

host: fine, thank you. caller: i wanted to comment about the veteran who said it was not the responsibility of the democrats. i wanted to agree with him and the lady that just got off of their as well. i am on disability, two, and i depend on the government as well. i am losing my doctor because of the obamacare. he said economically, he cannot keep -- i guess he is not going to take medicare and stuff no more. that is my point. obamacare is not just affecting everyone financially. really quickly, you said your doctor will not take medicare anymore? caller: he is walking away from it. february.ing in i will not have him anymore.

host: this is due to the health- care law, the shutdown or both? caller: it is due to the health- care law, obamacare. when you establish a relationship with a doctor, it is very hard to lose. like i said, everybody is pointing the finger at .epublicans, but it is not they are throwing everything in the world at him that they can, and he is stuck on that one thing. everybody sees it. that education, and i see that obama will not budge on his health care plan, which is one that i think is going to destroy our country. host: we are asking you about the impact on states. there are number of of articles looking at the impact of the health-care law. this is from "the atlanta journal constitution."

jay.is jane -- lexington, south carolina. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to emphasize what is going on in this country -- a lot of people are being deceived and misled. i hate to say this, but it is true. a lot are being lied to. the state that i am in, south carolina, we have a high poverty rate, and it is a republican-run state. most of the republicans are for the wealthy, and they are not really looking out for the middle class because president obama really tried hard to push

for the middle class people read -- people. as far as the veterans, the republicans wanted to cut $600 billion from the veterans, and this is a known fact. the republicans wanted to do photo opportunities and patronize the veterans, but they are putting them at the same time. i would like to use this proverb. host: we are going to let you go there. we're going to your for more callers and comments from twitter and facebook. we appreciate you calling in as we are asking about the impact of the federal shutdown on states. a number of officials have testified on various impact of the shutdown, including transportation issues. deborah herdsman testified friday. in terms of infrastructure spending, here is what she had to say. [video clip] 1500 complete about

investigations every year, and so it is safe to say well over 1000 have been halted in their tracks. there is very little we can do to keep those moving, and we have to establish a high bar to bring our people back to work in the and we have only been able to do that on five occasions in the last 10 days for five different events. the rest, we have had to let go. in many cases, we have heard about the delays. safety-related safety denied. we do not find these issues, we cannot address them. host: a report in front of the senate committee. on ouraring is available video library at c-span.org. the senate is coming into session today, 1:00 p.m. eastern on c-span2. we are spending the rest of this "washington journal" talking about the effect of the shutdown on your state. here is "the washington post"

reporting for our viewers on radio, we dots are these red areas affected by the government shutdown. they write that -- the republican-led states are most dependent on loans. robert, michigan.

caller: good morning. qa for taking my call. -- thank you for taking my call. i am currently at our family , andin southern michigan where the shutdown certainly impact here is trying to do something through, you know, the usda program. assist on the farm here, and i own a part of it. my primary position is as an educator in the northern part of the southern peninsula, and where they had seen impact -- where i have seen it is watching the schools having to deal with the fact that the federal lunch programs are affected. host: so, the lunch program has been affected by the shutdown? caller: yes.

host: do you have any specifics on that? caller: no, i do not. it seems to be more general, and i cannot at this moment testify to what extent. it is not my area. host: understood. caller: and, of coarse, looking at the other side of this, once again, the agricultural side, with the farm bill in particular, ideal -- once again, i consider myself an independent. i have voted both ways. it is very hard in certain areas of michigan to kind of declare for one party or the other unless you are very, very rabid because there are areas where your vote would not matter to a certain extent. so, i try to vote for the person that i think is the best person in a given election.

in this particular case, i am concerned about the fact that there are so many dollars in the farm bill that have nothing to do with the snap program, yet it seems the snap program is the target. host: thank you for the call. there was movement on the farm bill last week. you might recall a couple of weeks ago the house passing a separate snap or food stamp program. they have agreed to go to conference with the senate. no word on when that might happen. melissa. mississippi. good morning. caller: hi. i was calling because i am a single-parent, low income, and i work every day, and i pay taxes. the shutdown is affecting me and my family. we need the assistance.

it is hurting the poor people. a lot of us out here work hard every day and take care of our kids and still cannot make ends meet. i think it is a horrible thing how the people in congress and the senate are holding up the american people. they are not affected. they were probably born wealthy. some of us are not born with a silver spoon in our month. they need to -- in our mouth. they need to go to the urban areas and see that these parents are working hard. how can you shutdown head start? the food stamp program is working? -- is working. the housing program is working. everything is benefiting the poor. why would you cut to hurt the poor?

host: republican. pittsburgh. a comment to piggyback off of scott reckard from "the los angeles times" on the fha loans. i am an underwriter. this has affected what we have gone through when it comes to in particular, because we can get the loans done, however, in certain situations, we are not, especially when it comes to usda. their system is shutdown down, and that line up financing is done. borrowers cannot extend those. nic'st comes to getting , there is nowhere to go. we cannot get further past their automated system to go to somebody.

host: give me an example. let's say, i had, on september 30, just before the shutdown, locked in an fha rate, and if it extends a couple of weeks -- we are now a deal below weeks -- -- we are now at two weeks -- if that ends, will the rate in effect? it is fine with the fha, but with the usda it is not. i have several loans i cannot get through because their automated system is down, so we cannot even put them through. right now, those borrowers that have interest rate lock in have nowhere to go. host: scott reckard of "the los angeles times" is writing about some workarounds. have you had experience with that? caller: yes. we have done some on fha loans

and even conventional loans. on the secondary market we have done the same thing with getting tax returns and bank statements to show that tax was paid if there was a tax code. -- owed. unfortunately, it comes back on the lender. host: bottom line, how long does this go on -- when does it become a problem for your business? caller: it will become a problem depending on what secondary does because they are going on a long it will take the government to decide they will stay shut down. we cannot sell those loans. host: yeah. caller: like i said, the usda loans, they are done, and it has already affected smaller lenders where they have laid off whole divisions because they relied heavily on usda loans.

host: thank you for the call and sharing your experience. johnny is in virginia. independent line. go ahead. caller: thank you. i am sure it has affected a lot of people in virginia because there are so many government jobs. it is not supposed to be this way. they want obama care, which is going to enslave the people to the irs. i never thought i would see such things in my lifetime. thank you. host: thank you, johnny. we have been talking with reporters about the impact of the federal shutdown on the state. we are joined by kristen leigh painter, who is a reporter for " covering apost, number of issues in colorado. kristen leigh painter, thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having us.

host: what is the status for the work of most contractors in colorado? guest: it is hit or miss. if they are a large enough contractor, they have margin in their budgets to be able to, kind of, absorb the impact. some of the smaller contractors are what local economists are worried about. they are the ones, if they are not getting their pay up front, they are the ones that have to start making layoffs. host: you wrote about one area of concern as subcontractors. why is that an issue? guest: the large prime contractors -- lockheed martin, raytheon, those sort of contractors, they have power with the banks. if something happens and they

need to go get a loan, they would not have a problem getting a loan for lockheed martin, the when you get down to subcontractors who work for lockheed martin on projects, software companies, those sort of things, they are the ones -- if the paychecks are not coming in, they might have to cut off some of their workforce. about the to us federal research centers in colorado. how are they affected? guest: a lot of them are shuttered right now. we have 30 federal research labs. for the most part, they were deemed nonessential jobs, so a lot of them are furloughed right now. host: you are reporting in the -- in "the denver post" this morning "government shutdown might close launch window for

mars mission." guest: what ended up happening mission, the next mission to mars, it was built here by lockheed martin, and the launch window is 20 days, starting november 17 or 18, and if they miss those 20 days, they have to wait three years -- almost three years, to get it where the planets are aligned again, and by that time, you know, you are looking at costs of trying to keep that expensive piece of machinery in storage. actually, the most recent news with that is nasa gave it an emergency exception because it was deemed essential to protecting u.s. property, which are the two rovers on mars right now. that is up and running again.

it is one of the few things that got an emergency exception at nasa. colorado,ing us from "the denver post's kristen leigh painter. thank you for being with us. guest: thank you. host: here on "washington david.," one more call, the effect on your state, maryland. what are you seeing? caller: good morning, bill. host: good morning. caller: the shutdown has not 17th, ifet, but on the they do not get their impact -- act together, there will be a major impact on low economy areas. it is bad enough that some people are living off of the food stamps and the money they earn doing little jobs.

we do not have the jobs in maryland like they say we have. impact to have a better on funding jobs and getting congress to look at the low- class areas where we need to find jobs for the younger generations. host: do you have a lot of federal workers there in rock all? caller: it is not as much. host: david, thank you for being with us. thank you for your comments and calls. we're back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on "washington journal," joined by steve bell from the bipartisan policy center. with julie appleby who is kaiser health news on where things stand on the implementation of the health- care law, and the president and

ceo of amtrak talks about ridership and the impact of the federal budget. we hope you can join us at 7:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow morning. the senate is in at 1:00 p.m. eastern. you can follow that on c-span2. we will see you back here tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. on "washington journal." [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] ♪ today, "newsmakers" eliot engel byh congressman followed jack lew's testimony on the debt limit. later, the senate commerce committee examines work functions to stop the government shutdown on october 1.

, as wesman eliot engel move beyond the debt ceiling issue we want to focus on foreign policy. writer us as the senior of foreign policy. thank you for joining us. first question. what i wanted to ask you about egypt. elected democratically president overturn in july. he has been held at an undisclosed location. we heard he will be put on trial in november. given the fact this was almost any other country in the world we would have cut off all of our aid, what are you opposed to what the president decided to do? i know you expressed concerns. can you tell us why. >> you have to look about the total picture. egypt has been a strategically important country to the united states for 30 or 40 years. a