have no idea what the next four years ago and to bring me. absolutely no idea. i do not think the people of new jersey expect me to be able to predict what will happen over the next four years. i am proud of the record we have developed and how new jersey has gotten better. i want to continue to make it better. 25% oftor? >> here spent his time out of state. he is not bringing jobs back to new jersey. we are at the bottom of the barrel. i am not bothered by the problem -- by the fact he is run. he is the toilet, since the gone loss to cater to them -- he is lawsowing -- vetoing fun

to cater to the republican right. criticized governor christie's, yet his approval at 66%.tands he has managed many of his excesses with the help of your party's leadership. if the government -- governor is succeeding, shouldn't the residents of the state take pride in the fact there governor is sought after and admired? >> i answer the presidential question but i will say this with respect to the poll. as a woman in new jersey politics him i am underestimated a lot. i am dogged and i never give up. when i ran for the general assembly and there was a vetoproof majority, they said

barbara, you will never win. i won. they said it was a fluke. not only did i went, i brought along my running mate. when i ran for the senate, they said the same thing. they said when i tried and became the first woman to chair in the senate and i managed to do that. the same with majority leader. i have been through a lot of obstacles in my life. i have been on my own since i was 19. i know what it's like to be without a job and a food stalls. i believe a gives me the church to do the right thing. if people are going through that now, i wanted them to know i will never ever give up on them either. the record that our administration has developed and leads to the type of poll numbers you reference. 43,000 private sector jobs. pension reform that will save billions of dollars and protect

the pension of our pension ears. one last thing. i do not understate senatorbuono and i am running as hard as i can because i know she is a formidable component -- competitive. you not being a underestimate. >> we agree on something. >> will try to stop that as soon as possible. [laughter] >> governor, you campaigned and raise the money for the architects of the government shutdown and we talked about what that's all about. are you sorry that you did that, do you regret now that it is impeding the united states for meeting its obligations? we certainly have other obligations alike sending out social security checks that have not been sent out. >> no, i do not regret it. what i regret is what we see and has beenn, d.c. that

typified by the partisanship by both sides. this is not the just the fault of one sect or group of people. as a leadership failure by everybody and washington, d.c. from the president to the speaker of the house to the majority leader of the senate. all of them have contributed to making the mess we see and washington, d.c. when you are the executive and the governor, you cannot brush of those things off. would you need to do is what we do in new jersey is create alliances. with the democratic leaders of the legislature and create alliances with mayors, county executives to make sure everybody walks to the table together. i do not regret supporting any of the people i support it. i believe you need to reach out to everybody to bring everybody together. i have no regrets. >> your final question. during this campaign, you

spoke frequently about your commitment to higher education. thein your 20 years in legislature did you never sponsor a bill that would put capital funding into our state colleges and universities as i did and do not get a pass by your colleagues in the legislature if you are such an influential legislature -- a legislator? >> i am glad you brought that up. i was a cosponsor and i supported -- i think over 500 million dollars in aid to our institutions of higher learning. there is a consistent pattern here when something goes right you'd like to stand at the head of the line and take credit of it. the fact of the matter is the legislature passed a resolution to put this on the ballot for facilities upgrade and you had nothing to do with it. it is all of you that should take the credit for voting for that ballot initiative. that is a wonderful thing.

we need to put more money in our facilities in new jersey. the issue is this. affordability of higher education is going to do nothing to make higher education more affordable. is up 14%. the fact is i was able to be where i am because i have been to njsu. questions.some the part of the debate that is unique to new jersey. i wanted to start with you governor. i recall a when word got out that the new york giants was moving to new jersey, i said it nj onook strange to see a their helmets. they never changed their logo. does that bother you? would you like to see them as the new jersey giants? or new jersey cowboys or whatever?

[laughter] >> yes, they should do it. >> i am proud to be a new jersey ian. we live in the shadow of new york. new jersey has great people. >> the next question. >> the decisive question of the debate. for those of us who come from south of the river, both of you, -- or 7-11? -- wawa fwall while an. my wife is from suburban philadelphia. when we data we made frequent stops to the store. >> 7-11. >> the clearest difference of the eating -- evening.

>> new jersey and oregon are the only states that do not allow drivers to pump their own gas. a good thing, bad thing? pumping my owne gas. i will be honest. , would really be very extremely opposed to it. i think most of the people in the room would be opposed to it. >> a good thing. not to pump your own gas. >> next question. >> one of you will be governor next year would new jersey hosts the super bowl. presumably you have access to some tickets. [laughter] if you were given two free family, it can't be bon jovi or beyoncé. who would you give those two free tickets to go along with you to the super bowl? governor?

>> i would give those tickets to the little girl i met during the storm and her mom. they were very special in my life without those will be the two people i would take. .> i would take all of my kids with those two tickets i would bring up more of their friends. >> every time i drive down route one to my mom, the left which i never knew was called to that, all the signs say turns and the right-hand line. apparently new jersey has more than any other state. do you support the left-hand turns? about have a horror story these turns? >> i love judd handles. i've always loved jug handles. stopl love the jug handles

-- until the day i die. >> i think they are safer. i went toward the end of the block where i live and we sat left-hand turns. it is a little more time going around the jug handle. i think it's a lot safer. >> fair enough. [laughter] >> i do not know what he wanted it there. note, we are getting to be and. i can't help but think about what is going on in our nations capital as we speak. just before we came on the air, we got word that the house which had been the process of working some legislation to try to avoid , to close the shutdown. they had broken off. no deal. speaker boehner could not get members behind him. there are people blame the

republicans. their people blame the tea party and the white house and the democrats. some people blame politicians in general. would either one of you encourage your children to go into politics? let me finish. politics still a note -- if politics still a noble calling? >> i think it's a noble calling. you do get the dissolution of being in politics in new jersey because there is that boardwalk empire back room dealing that has poisoned new jersey politics. i believe that democracy is the best form of government and we need to build it from the ground up and the grassroots and that is what my campaign has been doing. i have so many enthusiastic, idealistic kids who are involved and adults. they give me hope that we can change this. >> listen. i encourage all four of my

children to follow their dreams. if one of them came to me and said they wanted to get into public service, you bet i would encourage them. it is given the extraordinary opportunities to affect people's lives in a positive way. yes, the system has problem. in washington, d.c., it is broken. the fact is i would say to my kids if they came to me, i would say just remember, if you're going to get into public service, get into public service to do something not to be something. have an idea of what you want to do and what you want to accomplish and work as hard as you can to get it done. ifbsolutely would encourage they wanted it. be all kids, there needs to an encouragement that they do something and a life that serve somebody other than himself stop could be politics, charitable part ofat is important

parenting. something bigger than yourself interest. >> of both of you have illustrious clinical careers of which you should be proud. you have talked a lot about your accomplishment in office. can you each talk about your biggest political regrets? >> a nun, governor -- none, governor? >> which one do you want to go first? >> looks like you're ready. >> i am. i've had a political career as a governor. i in combat when i was a county freeholder, i did not learn the lessons of bipartisanship and working with other folks. i wanted things to only go my way. bya result, i got sent away -- by the voters. i learned over the last four

years that the most important thing in being a leader is to listen. it is soliciting people from the other side who have different views. to listen to the citizens. to listen to folks who are experts in the area to help make you better educated on the issues you have to deal with. what that taught me when i was doing much too much talking and not enough listening if you want to be a successful leader, talking is a part but the listening and reaching across is the bigger part. >> we actually agree on this. i think a working together, bringing people to the table is the most important thing. consensusbuilding stop i have to say, my biggest regret in politics is probably leaving local office as soon as i did. i learned a lot from serving on the council. i was a police commissioner. we're able to recruit people to have a more diversified police

force in terms of race and gender. local government, you are closest to the people and i did not finish out my term. >> we are just about at the time to go to closing statements. i personally want to thank both of you. and of course our sponsors as well. most debates go 60 minutes. this is 90 minutes. you have our gratitude for standing before us to tell us what you really think. we appreciate that. i know the audience does. we go to closing statements. governor, you wonder the 20 house -- won the coin toss. >> thank you for your thoughtful questions and being care. thank you to montclair state. willis the last office i ever run for in new jersey. this the last political campaign

that i will ever run in new jersey. ,he fact is it is a special special time for me and for my family. we love this state. we love this state and the opportunities we have been given the last four years to be governor. i am thrilled about the fact we were able to great 143,000 new jobs. able to control property taxes and fix a broken tension and benefits system and make it better. with great in atmosphere where people believe the government can work and we can work together. -- we have created an atmosphere where people believe the government can work and we can work together. i thank you for the privilege you have given me. i asked on november 5 for your vote. --buono senator buono senator buono? >> as the daughter of an italy,nt butcher whoever

i am the underdog. i am the little guy. i am fine with that. i embrace it. life for theire other little guys. governor, you have done a good job looking for those at the top. if you're an underdog like me, is he really looking out for you? you are likable guy. do not confuse being a likable with being on your side. this a man who raise taxes on the working poor without asking for millionaires to pay a penny more. the question is, have his policies really helped you and your family? i was born and raised in new jersey. i never gave up. new jersey, you have had a tough four years. you have never given up. as your governor, i pledge i will never ever give up on you. thank you. >> we thank you both of you. i wanted to express my gratitude to all of you here in the

audience. 99.8% of the time you were well behaved. [laughter] we'll have you back for the next debate. tomorrow. and also to say thank you to the panel is here. .y colleague to the candidates as well, governor christie and senator buono. and thank you to our sponsors and the crew who put this together. this is not an easy job. i am standing in front of a rather large team that worked hard and aggressively within public television. toput every possible dollar the best use to make sure we could bring this to you. just to give you a sense of how important new jersey is, this tonight is being broadcast throughout the entire country on c-span. we operate as partners that are

printed on the air over the weekend as well. it has been on radio. partners that are putting it on the air over the weekend as well. it was an exceptional debate. for now, that leaves us for continuing coverage tomorrow on njtv. i am mikef us here, schneider. thank you for washing. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> every weekend since 1960 eight, book tv has shown over 40,000 hours of programming with the top nonfiction authors. iste i thought, wow, that

the answer. women in politics. no more women and power. and said i editor wanted to write a book. >> all of us in the working- class are subjected to punitive taxes, being ignored by the elite media, not getting any kind of special interest held in washington like the fact has to get. we are all in the same boat no matter what color we are. >> with the only national tv network -- we are the only national tv network dedicated to nonfiction. >> this week the federal government reopened after a 16 day shutdown. to get stolen was a race. president obama used his weekly address. gives theelli republican address.

he criticized the health care law. ken cuccinelli is running for governor in regina. >> hi everybody. this week, because democrats and responsible republicans came together, the government was reopened, and the threat of default was removed from our economy. there's been a lot of discussion lately of the politics of this shutdown. but the truth is, there were no winners in this. at a time when our economy needs more growth and more jobs, the manufactured crises of these last few weeks actually harmed jobs and growth. and it's understandable that your frustration with what goes on in washington has never been higher. the way business is done in washington has to change. now that these clouds of crisis and uncertainty have lifted, we need to focus on what the majority of americans sent us here to do - grow the economy, create good jobs, strengthen the middle class, lay the foundation for broad-based prosperity, and get our fiscal house in order

for the long haul. it won't be easy. but we can make progress. specifically, there are three places where i believe that democrats and republicans can work together right away. first, we should sit down and pursue a balanced approach to a responsible budget, one that grows our economy faster and shrinks our long-term deficits further. there is no choice between growth and fiscal responsibility we need both. so we're making a serious mistake if a budget doesn't focus on what you're focused on, creating more good jobs that pay better wages. if we're going to free up resources for the things that help us grow - education, infrastructure, research - we should cut what we don't need, and close corporate tax loopholes that don't help create jobs. this shouldn't be as difficult as it has been in past years. remember, our deficits are shrinking - not growing. second, we should finish the job of fixing our broken immigration system.

there's already a broad coalition across america that's behind this effort, from business leaders to faith leaders to law enforcement. it would grow our economy. it would secure our borders. the senate has already passed a bill with strong bipartisan support. now the house should, too. the majority of americans thinks this is the right thing to do. it can and should get done by the end of this year. third, we should pass a farm bill - one that america's farmers and ranchers can depend on, one that protects vulnerable children and adults in times of need, and one that gives rural communities opportunities to grow and the longer-term certainty they deserve. we won't suddenly agree on everything now that the cloud of crisis has passed. but we shouldn't hold back on places where we do agree, just because we don't think it's good politics, or just because the extremes in our parties don't like compromise. i'll look for willing partners from either party to get important work done.

there's no good reason why we can't govern responsibly, without lurching from manufactured crisis to manufactured crisis. because that isn't governing - it's just hurting the people we were sent here to serve. those of us who have the privilege to serve this country have an obligation to do our job the best we can. we come from different parties, but we're americans first. and our obligations to you must compel all of us, democrats and republicans, to cooperate, and compromise, and act in the best interests of this country we love. thanks everybody, and have a great weekend. >> hello, i'm attorney general ken cuccinelli. today, our nation and the commonwealth of virginia face tremendous challenges. citizens are seeking leaders who are willing to speak out and stand up for our first principles and take on a federal government that is out of control, eating away our liberty and crushing opportunity. this gross government overreach is best exemplified in the so- called affordable care act. obamacare represents one of the largest and most reckless

expansions of government in the more than 200-year history of our nation. i believe that obamacare is unconstitutional. i believe it's an affront to the freedoms and liberties our founding fathers fought to establish on our behalf. i'm proud to say many of those heroes were virginians, including george washington, thomas jefferson and patrick henry. because i believed obamacare was an affront to our liberty, i stood up. i was the first attorney general in america to challenge the law in federal court. and today, i continue to search for avenues to minimize obamacare's hurtful impact on virginians. during the debate over this law, citizens in the commonwealth were told they could easily access information about their health care choices and join the system, well that proved to be untrue. they were told their premiums wouldn't increase, that proved to be false. and they were told they could keep access to their insurance and their doctors, and that proved to be downright dishonest. today, our citizens are deeply

concerned about what the future holds. what kind of country will we hand to our children? as a husband and proud father of seven, my wife and i share these concerns. it's why i stood up and said obamacare is not right for virginia. it's why i fought alongside 27 other state attorneys general and said obamacare is not right for america. it's why i am sharing this message with you today. i know we can do better. my alma mater - the university of virginia - just announced that it will no longer be able to provide health care coverage to many spouses of their thousands of employees. and just two weeks ago, the fairfax county water authority, a significant government employer in northern virginia, announced that it's going to have to drop coverage for its employees because of obamacare's taxes. everywhere you look, there's more evidence that obamacare was fundamentally broken even before it started. and while our citizens bear the brunt of the law, it seems like big corporations and special

interests have gotten exempted. even members of congress are getting preferential treatment, yet everyday virginians, of whom i am privileged to count myself, are paying the costs and experiencing diminished freedoms. president obama's ideas are deeply flawed and the implementation of this law has been a national embarrassment. let me be plain, the law that carries the president's name is the hallmark of a reckless federal government that has lost its way. as attorney general of a commonwealth which was one of our nation's first 13 colonies, and the birthplace of american democracy, i'll never stand by and watch as our hard fought freedoms are taken away. we can do better. we need to provide flexibility and choice within our health care system. our citizens shouldn't be forced to choose insurance providers and doctors who've been preselected by government bureaucrats. we need to open up the insurance

market and allow cross state purchase of insurance to drive competition and lower premiums. physicians are fleeing medicaid because they're paid so little and have to spend more time completing regulatory paperwork, time they would rather spend treating their patients. our citizens should be able to choose the health care providers who they believe will provide the best care for their needs, and we shouldn't have to make our healthcare decisions with 16,000 irs agents looming as the obamacare enforcers. most importantly, we need to reverse the perverse incentives that have raised the cost of insurance premiums and have forced employers to drop health care benefits and full-time jobs in order to stay in business. our health care system should be transparent at all levels and provide pricing to inform and empower american families. we should support market based solutions for health care reform

and empower patients free of government control. more and more government in health care has proven to make it worse, not better! america needs to go the other way, trusting our people and our doctors to work out a system that's best for healthcare, not marching to the senseless beat of some far off government drum. if the politicians who gave us this train wreck expect us to live by this law, then the same law without special exemptions should apply to congress. is that really too much to ask? obamacare serves as a grave threat to the future prosperity of the citizens of virginia, and i'll continue to resist expanding it. not just in washington, but in every state in america. i promise that i'll do my part in virginia, and i know you'll do yours! together we can make america better tomorrow than it is today. thank you for listening. god bless each one of you. and god bless our beloved country.

moments, "the communicators" looks at how to shut down affected the fcc. then first lady's. >> c-span created by cable companies in 1979 and brought to you as a public service. >> well, the federal government reopened after 16 days during this current shutdown. this week on "the communicators," a roundtable discussion on the effect of that shutdown on the federal communications commission and telecommunications policy. joining us is former fcc commissioner harold furchtgott- roth and blair levin who served as chief of staff to the fcc for several years.