network as we move through to a new one. >> my time has expired. i yield back. thank you. >> thank you very much. the gentleman yields back. and the chair now recognizes the gentleman from louisiana, >> mr. i appreciate you having this hearing and i want to thank all the witnesses are coming. and your respects and on the -- your perspective on the changes in technology and the things that people are able to do now. we have this transition and a protocol. couples know that, you have the .pgrade to fiber optics it gives consumers more options. the investment sector with it, i know your company and other incumbents are investing billions of dollars to help build up a new networks and uses

new technology in better ways, even with the current regular tory environment. some would say that the fact that you invest in these billions of dollars approves -- thats of dollars proves you don't mind or regulation. the way the markets are set up today, we will have by the end of this year three quarters of americans using either wireless only or voice providers as opposed to the circuits which provider. 214 millione have switch phone customers at at&t, which is a small fraction of the numbers that any other provider has out there in these competitive markets. that would be the first point i would make. the second point is the

investment that has occurred over the last few years in wireless and ip technology, of course, i think is related to the fact that these are the least regulated areas in technology. it is not accurate that the 96 is accuracy neutral. extraoses a lot of requirements on them and that is one of the reasons why google has offered -- has decided not to offer wireless. does telecommunications offer some specific rules. how does that affect your investment decisions? >> on a going forward basis with i.t., i hear what google hears, which is some companies advocating that we simply take the common carriage model entitled to and applied if nothing has changed to modern competitive ip services to and i

don't think that is what the act in vision. i think it is would be -- i also think it would be a big mistake. for aregulatory overhang company like google and at&t trying to make a wireless decision. to the final point, we have gone ahead recently and decided to invest in this area. quite honestly, it was a difficult decision for us, running fiber to these buildings and expanding our universe -- are you-verse services to folks enroll areas. but i think it is a leap of faith on at&t's part in this revelatory environment. he take comfort in the fact that to broadband plan speaks these issues and has been endorsed by the president and by congress on a bipartisan basis and he gives us confidence going forward that these regulatory issues and uncertainties will get settled in the proper manner and come of course come i think one of the reasons why we filed for the trials is to spur that

along. >> i appreciate that. au have been advocating for way for the communications act to reflect the digital age. speak about some of the -- i left my telephone atomic to the did not want to get into that. but you may want to mention something about the 92 cable act which is also outdated. >> thank you, cosman. that is outdated for sure, the 92 act. act is as the 96 well. although at the time it was adopted, it was a piece of transitional legislation. there are a lot of principles going forward and you have to think about it in the larger sense because there are obviously -- i have talked about some regulatory backstop sense and safeguarding universal services. but in a large sense, a new act

should get rid of the stovepipes t. they are not technology neutral. they're based on technology constructs under different titles. and it should replace the public interest that is now in the act in 110 different places the delegates authority to the fcc just to act in the public interest. with a competition-based standard that is antitrust-like. i am not suggesting that you will import all of the antitrust ordinance for this, but in the competitive marketplace and regulation, therefore, it shouldn't be adopted unless there is a market failure or proof of consumer harm. and then finally, what a new act should you is circumscribed somewhat the fcc's general rulemaking authority which now,

ask and a nexus of tory fashion. and you engage in a process, what you do by definition is conjecture harms that may occur in the future because you're trying to conceive of all potential harms. generally, those type several makings are overly broad, broader than they need to be. so you want to get the fcc to act more in a post talk capacity hoc capacity addressing a specific problem. in this carrier and this place, there is a market failure for some reason. i have an interconnection problem. you take it into an adjudicatory context and you try to address that specific problem rather than prescribing a lot of condit that otherwise would be beneficial to the country otherwise.

>> i appreciate the answers. >> the gentleman's time has expired in the chair now recognizes the gentleman from new jersey for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thatnk we can all agree the ip transition for consumers and the economy as a whole. so i welcome this conversation. but i work with public industry and public industry -- public interest groups and these technological advances do not come at the expense of consumer access and choice. districtyear ago, my and the city new jersey were hit hard by hurricane sandy. one of the many impacts of that the station was a loss of communication services, power manyes and destructive to types of communication, including wireless television, telephone and internet services. yesterday, i was with

congressman leonard lance and even clark and congressman holt ayne and wesman p were talking about this in a bipartisan regional basis. i know some of this has been touched upon. i will try not to be repetitive. but i do stand that traditional copper networks operate even when power lines go down. is, because at&t has a large legacy copper communications network and significant plans to deploy new favor -- new fiber into this structure, how will it matter -- how will it handle natural disasters like hurricanes? we know the copper continues to operate. but what happens now with the new fiber networks and dealing with that issue? how will you do with it? >> -- how will you deal with it?

technology,no unfortunately, congressman, that allows you to power the line. fiber heads have other advantages in addition to internet capacity. one of them is relevant in a hurricane or flooding zone or in a sandy-type situation. seawater will destroy copper. and make it unrepairable. fiber is very resilient in that type of situation and frankly so are our wireless networks. they are very resilient. we get them back up and running very quickly after the storms. i say that, knock on wood, because we are still in hurricane season. >> we all agree that these communities should not lose services they rely on simple because they are unlucky enough to be in the path of a storm. so there are different consequences from these replacement services with fiber.

again, i guess this goes back to the trap, but what else can we do? what will you do with these real-world trials? how do they relate to the problem that i just discussed? guessdon't want to second- a decision made by other carriers, but i think that what trials and proper planning for the key transition would allow is for us to test the capabilities of the services and not have people surprised if you deploy service and a fax machine doesn't work the same way, things of that nature. i think it is iterative. i think the technology will evolve and, frankly, we can help it evolve because we know what we are trying to do. for example, in our wireless home phone service, we have actually asked the manufacturers to add a eta capability. that came online the sump that at a data capability.

that came online the summer. years,o forward over the i expect that the wireless capabilities will evolve and change to meet those needs so that, franca, it could be more robust and more reliable and provide all of the same services and more that our copper facilities do. >> one of the things that we have asked the fcc to do and to put a priority on this is to initiate a separate proceeding for disaster guidance. had a situation in mena luckett, new jersey and fire island where they did not know what they were supposed to do. they did not want to rebuild the copper network, but they also need -- they also had no guidance for what they should be doing instead. order tothe fcc, in address this problem of public safety, needs to get out there

and started pressing right now. as we do this transition, we know that carriers will want to as in new infrastructure they rebuild after storms like sandy. what are their responsibilities? what are they supposed to do and what can people in those communities rely on an order to be able to rebuild their lives? had 17 other public interest organizations join us in asking the fcc to begin a proceeding on this and hopefully aswill see action on that soon as chairman will it is confirmed. >> with the chairman's approval , go ahead. >> i may. i want to make sure that we embrace the small and middle sized business market. a lot of the conversation here focuses on residential and that is certainly important to the charge that i see on the site here talks about a degradation and -- a degradation in copper-

based usage of the residential level. that is not so for the business level. the copper facility can handle the powerline back up requirements you need. so we often deploy -- they are often working in parallel. we have the next generation ip technology taking care of all of those once in we have the copper-based lit services taking care of the critical functions and letting that worked out as time goes on. >> the gentleman's time is expired and the chair now recognizes the gentleman from missouri for five minutes. >> iq, mr. chairman think you'll for being here today. giving your testimony, i am kind of a cleanup hitter here. if we had started with me, we would have been done a long time ago. [laughter] he made mention earlier in the questioning portion of this hearing that you have read the fcc national broadband plan and, being that you have read that, i

will remind you that they came to a conclusion, the fcc on the national broadband plan to " regulations to require them to maintain regular phone service and they highlight a karmic debt is not sustainable and lead to investments in assets that could be stranded. so if the fcc believes that maintaining legacy telephone service is not sustainable and that investments are and risk -- are at risk of being stranded, should the fcc change its stand? >> i do think it is appropriate for the fcc to move forward, put together an approach where plan at your direction, congress's direction, that is widely endorsed that anticipated this very issue in the words you quoted. unfortunately, we are four years

along here and i don't think we have seen the implementation of some of the things that they recommended. hopeful that,ery once the commission is tactful strength, that they will do so. again, our competition last year for the thai pete rouse was designed in part to spur along the very process you just highlighted, sir. >> again, when you are the last guy at that, some of this you touched on before, but let me ask you to elaborate if you will on the types of services that would be available through these internet protocols that are not available in the copper networks. >> i think the ip transition -- and i am at risk of oversimplifying. i am a liberal arts major, not an engineer. large, it is about voice become simply another application running on an internet i find. ipeline.net p

that provides, obviously, is competitive opportunities for a lot of people, but it also divides much more accessibility and allows people to design and innovate based on i.t.. so you may bring voice services and some of the innovations you see in every other form of internet service can if you pull out an iphone and you go to the app store coming can get a sense of the innovation that is available. and i think, as we transition these networks toward ip, i think we will see the same types of innovation there. i think it is obviously important for the country, from every standpoint of economic activity, but also from a consumer standpoint, too. >> i represent 07, which is

these bring filled, joplin area down in the southwest quarter of the state. 145 congressional districts, we can agree that i have the best one in the united states. in that area, there are 11 counties. so i have a lot of rural areas along the refill-joplin-branson area. and a lot of mine constituents do not have access to the latest medical technology and a lot of the doctors you find in urban areas and that is another topic. i can you elaborate on the types and mobilecine health applications that would be available to my constituents and the best commercial district in the united states if they had the ip service? getgain, if we are able to the broadband connection to those areas, and they are

wholesome and they are wireless, i think you have an infinite variety of services available that are being actually put together by innovators today. i think our entire health care system, notwithstanding the current difficulties, is actually innovating quite well in terms of making records available and things of this nature. >> can you give me any specifics? >> he can pull something together, mr. long and get it to you. i don't have anything specific to lay out to you here. >> i have zero seconds. if i had any time, i would yield it back. >> the gentleman's time has expired. any other members wishing to ask questions this afternoon. i want to thank you for this excellent panel and i am sure that the chairman will also want me to expand -- extend her

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baseline political realities in the country by looking at what is happening for the boys who essentially our traditional leaders in america. i think a lot of people come to any film about young leaders and they expect to see a multicultural tapestry of what america really looks like. but i think our country is really still run politically at least largely by upper-middle- class, relatively privileged white men. and i think reacting to that is what i'm trying to do. >> director jonathan goodman levitt leads a political come in the edge -- political coming-of- age story on "follow the leader. " >> both weekly addresses focus on issues surrounding the healthcare.gov website.

>> hi, everybody. a few weeks ago, we launched an important new part of the affordable care act. it is called the marketplace. and for americans without health insurance, and americans who buy insurance on their own because they can't get it at work, it is a very ". if you are one of those people, the affordable care act makes you part of a big group land for the first time. the marketplace -- group p lan for the first time. the market waste puts -- the marketplace puts insurers in one place to compete for your business. ultimately, the easiest way to buy insurance in this marketplace will be a new website, healthcare.gov. but as you may have heard, the site isn't working the way it is supposed to yet. it is frustrating for all of us who have worked so hard to make sure that everyone who needs it gets health care.

frustratingpecially for the americans who have been trying to get covered. the site has been visited more than 20 million times so far, nearly 700,000 people have applied for coverage already, and that proves just how much demand there is for these new quality affordable health care choices. that's why, in the coming weeks, we will get it working as smoothly as it is supposed to. we have people working overtime 20 47 to boost capacity and address these problems every single day. but even as we improve the website, remember that the website isn't the only way to apply for coverage under these new plans. we have updated healthcare.gov to offer more information about enrolling over the phone, by mail, or in person with a specially trained navigator who can help answer your questions. 800-318-2596. or visit a localhelp. health localhelp. --

healthcare.gov. everyone who wants insurance through the marketplace will get it. some people have poked fun at me this week are sounding like an insurance salesman and that's ok. i would still be out there championing the slot even if the website were her for. -- were perfect. i will never stop working to help more hard-working americans to have the security of health care. that is what we all want. that is why it is interesting to see republicans in congress saying that it has been so difficult for people. as i have said many times before. i am willing to work with anyone on any idea that is actually willing to make us will -- this law perform better. but it is well past the time for folks to stop rooting for its failure.

because hard-working middle- are rooting for success. the affordable care act gives people who have been stuck with sky high premiums because of pre-existing conditions the chance to get affordable insurance for the first time. this lot means that women can finally find terms that doesn't charge them higher premiums than men for the same care. and everyone who already has health insurance, whether through your employer, medicare or medicaid, will keep the medicaid -- will keep the benefits and protections at this law has already put into place. 3 million more young adults have insurance on their parents fans because of the informal care act. more than six people on medicare have saved an original $1000 on the prescription medicine because of the affordable care act. faster, more than 8 million americans received half $1 billion in refunds from their insurers because of the affordable care act. and for tens of millions of women, preventive care like mammograms and birth control are free because of the affordable

care act. that is all part of this law and it is here to stay. he did not fight so hard for this reform for so many years just to build a website can we did it to free millions of american families from the awful fear that one illness or injury to yourself or your child might cost you everything you have worked so hard to build good we did it to cement to the principles that, in this country, the security of health care is not the privilege of a fortunate few but a right for everyone to enjoy. we have already delivered on part of the promise and we will not rest until the work is done. thanks. and have a great weekend. >> hey, there. i am fred upton, chairman of the house energy and commerce committee. has been active in crafting solutions to improve health care for the american people as well as conducting oversight of the president's health care law. over the past year, we have become all too the troubled

rollout of the law and his broken promises. this deadline delayed and special waivers and now website crashes. this week him and his committee room, four of the lead contractors responsible for the troubled healthcare.gov website testified about what went wrong and next week we will hear directly from the health and human services director kathleen sebelius. this bites -- despite hundreds of millions of dollars, the website still does not work for most. at a time when we can do everything from ordering a pizza, flowers, airline tickets, banking, paying bills, they expect the same reliable service from healthcare.gov and it is still not ready for prime time. over the months leading up to the actual response, top officials in lead contractors appeared before this committee. they looked us in the eye and assured us repeatedly that everything was on track. except that it wasn't.

healthcare.gov website has captured the nation's attention. but this is more than a website problem. we are also concerned about what happens next. will enrollment which is become provider payment glitches? alli patients show up at doctor or hospital only to find out they are not in a system? and will personal information that americans provide as part of the enrollment losses really be safe from cyber hackers and identity theft? oversight is not about lame can is about accountability and transparency. and it's about fairness for the american public. months,few short families across the country will be subject to penalties under the law's individual mandate. how can the administration punish innocent americans by forcing them to buy a product that many cannot afford from a system that simply doesn't work here at and what about the

promises that health care costs would go down and that americans could keep their health plan if they like them no matter what? the reality and committees across the country is that premiums will be much higher. for some, as high as 400%. and millions of americans are receiving unwelcome notices that their plans are being terminated. believe it or not, more people are receiving cancellation notices in just three states that are applying in all 50 states. that is not what health reform promised. and in the past few days, the bipartisan chorus has been growing to delay the and vigil mandate, to delay the penalties that americans would face for being unable to purchase insurance through this broken system. that is the good news. delayedness mandate was and it is only fair that individuals and families receive the same treatment. and likewise, we should look for

bipartisan solutions to allow americans to keep their current insurance can after all, that was president of,'s solemn promise to ring the -- president solemn promise during the health care debate. this is a matter of fairness for all. a you are facing hardship as result of the law, we want to hear from you. .gop.gov/ go to www shareyourstory. those were the weekly addresses from president obama and fred upton talking about the health care law's implementation. and on to mars newsmakers, we will hear from -- we will hear more from the congressman from michigan. you can watch that interview

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