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gentleman is trying to do. so with that i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new jersey is recognized. mr. holt: thank you, mr. chairman. the whole point of the underlying bill is to make it impossible for the department of the interior, the bureau of land management, the secretary of the interior to impose regulations. it says if the state has any regulations, then the federal egulations don't count. all this amendment would do is on the important issue of fugitive methane, leaked methane, methane that get into the atmosphere by whatever means because of the drilling and fracking, should be limited. and it should be limited for several reasons. it is a potent greenhouse gas and it is lost revenue. so i would think that everyone
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would be eager to make sure that none of this fugitive methane gets into the atmosphere. or into the drinking water, i might repeat. so we know methane can and sometimes does leak from fracked wells. we should want the secretary to be able to regulate that. because under the bill, under the underlying bill, the secretary could not, this amendment is necessary. i urge my colleagues to support it. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from washington is recognized. mr. hastings: i yield myself the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hastings: my good friend, the author of this amendment, opened his remarks by saying this legislation makes it impocket possible to regulate fill in the blank. no, that is not the case.
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this bill says the primacy of regulation of hydraulic fracturing which has been going on for some 60 years, if a state has it in place, that tate's laws shall be the one we should follow. those states that don't have it this legislation would allow the department of interior's regulations to be there until they change their regular laces. i want to make a point this amendment is about emissions from the process of hydraulic fracturing. nothing in this bill, as i said before, prevents a state from doing what they can do, after all, keep in mind, mr. chairman, those states that have hydraulic fracturing rules may in all likelihood have regulations dealing with the emissions that come from that. nothing in this bill prevents that from happening. what the amendment does do, as
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i mentioned in my opening remarks is a backdoor way to regulate hydraulic fracturing when, as i said just a moment ago, has been done successfully for over 60 years in the states. i urge my colleagues to oppose this amendment and yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from new jersey, mr. holt. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair the noes have it. the amendment is not agreed to. mr. holt: mr. chairman, on that i ask for a recorded vote. the chair: pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, further amendments on the -- further proceedings on the amendment of the gentleman from new jersey will be postpone . - postponed. it is now in order to consider amendment number two printed in house report 113-271. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek
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recognition? mr. flores: i have an amendment at the desk. the clerk: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number two printed in part b of house report 113-271, offered by mr. flores of texas. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 419, the gentleman from texas, mr. flores, and a member opposed, each will control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from texas. mr. flores: mr. chairman, i rise to offer a simple amendment today that makes technical and clarifying corrections to of h.r. 2728. my amendment also calls on state regulators to provide their hydraulic fracturing and chemical disclosure requirement regulations for public disclosure. states have the expertise in carefully crafting hydraulic fracturing regulations to meet the needs of their states this bottoms up regulatory relationship between the states and federal government is one of the reasons we're able to enjoy the vast economic benefits of the shale energy boom.
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these changes will ensure that the cooperative and transparent state-driven regulatory approach to energy activity will continue. the energy shale boom is driving our economic recovery and we need to keep the federal government from sloge down energy production on taxpayer owned federal lands with duplicative regulations and unnecessary red tape. i reserve -- mr. hastings: will the gentleman yield in mr. flores: i yield to the gentleman. mr. hastings: we are prepared to accept the amendment. i think the gentleman's amendment goes to the heart of what those who are opposed to the rocess by disclose chemicals does, seems to be what the opposition seems to want. we accept the amendment. mr. flores: i'd like to yield one minute to mr. rene shea of ohio. -- mr. renarci of ohio. the chair: the gentleman is
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recognized. support i: i rise in of this amendment which will encourage production of resources an protect the environment and health of our citizens. my home state of ohio has some of the most transparent and robust regulations in the nation, which surpass federal regulations. nce 1953, over 80,000 wells, have been hydraulically fracked in ohio without any problems. we are experiencing an energy renaissance expected to bring 65,000 jobs by 2014. ohio now has potential to be a lead for the domestic leader and will bring jobs to ohio. it is clear that prudent and responsible development of our resources that key ates jobs, enhances national security and
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energy independent and -- independence and impacts long-term economic growth shouldn't be a partisan issue. i urge my friends on both sides of the aisle to support this amendment and underlying bill and i yield back. the chair: mr. -- mr. flores: again, this is a simple amendment in response to feedback i received in the last few weeks. the american energy shale revolution is pleatly dependent on hydraulic fracturing. ithout this evolving technology, lower energy prices, lower greenhouse gas emotions would all strap. i murgeclytoge -- i urge my colleagues to vote yes on the amendment and yes on the underlying legislation and i reserve. the chair: the gentleman from texas reserves. for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey rise? r. holt: i claim time in opposition to the amendment though i do not intend to oppose the amendment. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. mr. holt: i will not oppose the
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amendment because by itself it doesn't change anything but it underscores the problems with the bill itself. i'd like to speak on that for a moment. i don't think there's anything wrong with making interior a one-stop-shopping place for state drilling regulations, although i don't know if there are any states that want to keep their regulations secret so i don't know if that provision actually has any real impact. but let me read a provision of the bill that this amendment strikes so that everyone understands what the amendment is trying to do. subsection b of the bill says interior shall defer to all state regulations for all activities related to any component of the hydraulic fracturing process. and it then goes on to say, quote, regardless of whether those rules are duplicative, more or less restrictive, shall have different requirements or do not meet federal guidelines. apparently the majority as well as the author of this amendment recognize that the last
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sentence was a little excessive and now this amendment proposes to strike that. but it doesn't make any difference because in subsection a, the bill reads that interior cannot enforce any of its regulations or guidance for any component of the hydraulic fracturing process. subsection a strips interior of their authority to ebb force. this is certainly -- this certainly has the same effect as the language in subsection b directing them to defer with respect to any regulations or requirements. so even after this amendment is adopted and we're prepared to accept it, the language in the bill will still require that interior defer to the states regardless of whether state ules are less restrictive, are adequate, are inadequate, or if they don't meet federal guidelines. that's the problem with the bill. the bill remains the same.
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really dment is superfluous. i will not oppose the amendment but it does underscore the fundamental problem with the legislation that we're considering here today. it strips the interior of any authority to protect public health, public safety, from drilling and fracking operations on public lands. so although i will also accept the amendment, i will continue to oppose the underlying bill. and with that, i will yield to the -- yield back unless the gentleman wants to discuss this further. mr. flores: i thank the gentleman for accepting the amendment and i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman from new jersey yields back, the gentleman from texas yield back. the sque on the amendment
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offered by the gentleman from texas. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair the ayes have it. he amendment is agreed to. it is now in order to consider amendment number three printed in part b of house report 113-271. for what purpose does the gentleman from new york seek recognition? >> i have an amendment made in order you should the rule. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number three printed in part b of house report 113-271 offered by mr. reed of new york. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 419 the gentleman from new york, mr. reed, and a member opposed will each control five minutes. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. reed: i ask unanimous consent that amendment number three printed in part b of house report 113-271 by
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modified by the form i have placed at the desk. the chair: the clerk will report the modification. the clerk: amendment to to amendment number three, strike page four after line 10 and insert page two after line 19. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the amendment is modified. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. reed: thank you, mr. chairman. i have a straightforward amendment to h.r. 2728 which i am offering on a bipartisan basis with my colleague from california, mr. costa. our amendment will direct the government accountability office to conduct a study on the number of job crease ated from shale development in america. in addition the study will look at the impact shale production has had on energy prices and state and federal revenues. mr. chairman, this is a straightforward, simple amendment to quantify and document the economic benefits from shale development in america. as i serve on the natural gas caucus as well as the
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manufacturing caucus, i can tell you that the development of natural gas in america has put us on a course to have a manufacture regular birth and renaissance here in the united states. it is straight, consistent with my philosophy that we need to build it here and sell it there. this amendment will quantify on the federal level the economic benefits associated with the development of this resource, not only from the direct jobs of producing the resource but the indirect and secondary jobs in the united states manufacturing sector as well as all the other jobs that would support the development of this resource that we have been blessed with here in america. i yield to the chairman of the natural resources committee. mr. hastings: i thank the gentleman for yielding. i think this amendment will probably no doubt prove what we have been saying, that producing american energy will produce american jobs. i think the gentleman's
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amendment adds to this legislation and i am willing to accept that and i'll yield back to the gentleman. the chair: the -- mr. reed: i thank the gentleman for that acceptance of the amendment. at this point, i'd be pleased to yield two minutes to my co-sponsor on this amendment mr. costa of california. the chair: the gentleman from california is recognized for two minutes. mr. costa: thank you very much, mr. chairman. i want to thank my friend, the gentleman from new york, fellow co-chair of the natural gas caucus, mr. reed, for the time. places like the san joaquin valley, which i represent, are still struggling to create jobs in the wake of our great recession. energy production is a game changer, not only in california but around the country. these are exciting times with the finds in the mar se ulous shale, the barnett, the balkan and the monterey shale in california which is estimated to be as large if not larger than the others that i've mentioned. those who doubt the ability of
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states to regulate the oil and gas industry, i urge you to look at my home state of california which has put forth a long-term plan for responsible production of natural gas that the governor signed into law last month. many other states are taking their lead because we know one size doesn't fit all. and therefore i think that is a preferred approach. as all of us in the house are looking to determine what our next generation economy will look like, efforts like the amendment that we are proposing here i believe are critically important. the united states is on track to become the largest oil and gas producer in the world in the next few years. these are exciting times. the potential of the united states, canada, and mexico will far surpass the middle east in the production of fossil fuels. we should take advantage, therefore, of this opportunity, this dividend, that will benefit our economy and also benefit the geopolitics of the world we live in that is so dangerous. .
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this will yield significant dividends for both our economy and global security. our amendment will show that the economic opportunity cost of blocking or continuing to delay responsible, responsible development of natural gas simply should not be the case. the fact is that this study is more about the numbers and the dollars and how we do it safely and telling this side of the story, the human side of the story. i support the amendment and yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york. mr. reed: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, at this time i would just like to note, in this chamber you have a gentleman from california, a gentleman from new york standing together to highlight the game-changing economic impact of the development of this natural resource and i believe this amendment will
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clearly articulate how this goes to create a manufacturing rebirth, a job renaissance here in america and i join with him in this amendment and i urge all my colleagues to support the reid-costa amendment and with that i yield back the balance of my time -- reed-costa amendment and with that i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman from new york yields back. does any member claim time in opposition? if not, the question is on the amendment as modified offered by the gentleman from new york. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. the amendment as modified is agreed to. it is now in order to consider amendment number 4 printed in art b of house report 113-271. for what purpose does the gentleman from oregon seek recognition? mr. defazio: i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 4
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printed in part b of house report 113-271 offered by mr. defazio of oregon. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 419, the gentleman from oregon, mr. defazio, and a member opposed will each control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from oregon. mr. defazio: thank you, mr. chairman. this is an amendment that i think will help deliver on some of the promises of being made here today. this would say that natural gas produced on federal lands, on federal lands only, would not be allowed to be exported from the united states. now, the principle argument we're hearing on the republican side is that, by adopting their standard, which they say is a states' right standard, and i've already raised concerns about that on fracking, that it will encourage yet more development on both federal -- on federal lands, increase our
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domestic energy supply and free us from the opec cartel. ok. so, but that won't work if we produce energy on federal lands and then we export it to other countries like china or japan or elsewhere. the energy information administration has done a study. they say there will be a pping point in the export of liquefied natural gas where we will create a world market. we will be subject to the world price. that means that there would be a dramatic increase in gas prices here in the united states, both for residential, factory use, and as an input for manufacturing, fertilizing or other sorts of manufacturing. so, stud suddenly we would see -- so suddenly we would see an advantage which we've only very, very recently developed.
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we have manufacturing companies bringing production back to the u.s. because of our plentiful natural gas and saying it's to our advantage, our energy's cheaper here, our feed stocks are cheaper here, you know, this is a tremendous advantage for us and they're producing here and exporting finished goods. if we begin to export in great volume the raw material, the feed stock, the natural gas through a electric whichified process, then suddenly -- through a electric whichified process, then suddenly we're -- liquefied process, then we lose our advantage for domestic manufacturing and we're back where we are with oil, despite the idea that if we produce more oil, we will somehow come free of opec or other firms, i mean, other countries around the world. the fact is that oil is traded
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as an international commodity and no matter how much we produce here, it's going to be priced internationally at the highest price being paid in the international market. that is not so today for natural gas. but, if we export enough of it, and create enough capacity to export it, that will become the case. so this would have no impact on gas produced on state lands, indian lands, private lands. it just simply says that that approximately 15% of the natural gas being produced on federal land could not be exported, must be used domestically to keep prices down here at home, to advantage manufacturers here at home. with that i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman from oregon reserves. for what purpose does the gentleman from washington rise? mr. hastings: mr. chairman, i rise to claim time in opposition to the amendment. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hastings: i yield myself two minutes and 30 seconds. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hastings: thank you, mr. chairman. a similar amendment like this
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has been offered multiple times in our committee markups and they have always failed by a bipartisan vote and similar amendments like this have also failed on the floor. this is nothing more than an effort to make production on federal lands more challenging and less valuable. the vast majority of the natural gas that's produced in the united states stays in north america. 98% goes to canada and mexico. we ought to keep those customers. additionally, since 2009, the u.s. has been the largest producer of natural gas in the world which i guess goes to my friend from oregon's argument. but energy is going to be a globally decided in the marketplace. many companies operating in the united states are international companies with businesses all over the world. undercutting the basic premise of the free market in restricting the use of the
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resource always has real economic consequences in the future. now, there's one other point about this amendment, too. the amendment makes it unclear what is considered natural gas. the question arises, are products derived from natural gas also only to be sold in the united states because they are made from natural gas? it's unclear the way the amendment is drafted. but if that were to be the case, mr. chairman, there would be a vast spinoff industry, industries that would be affected. namely the plastic industries. so, i tend to be one that believes that the american consumer, in fact consumers everywhere, are benefited if we have free trade in the world. that should apply to everything and including a big resource that we are becoming a leader in and this amendment i think is contrary to that approach and so with that i will reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman from
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washington reserves. the gentleman from oregon is recognized. mr. defazio: to the gentleman's point, it's absolutely clear. it says gas. it does not say products derived from gas, fertilizer or manufactured plastics or anything else. it says the gas must be sold here in the united states. he admits and says that looking at increasing the price of natural gas here to accommodate exports overseas to put us in a world market. then we're yet again screwed. just like we've been with oil for years. we're back to the point where we're competing in an international market, we see, you know, we lose the international competitiveness, we lose more manufacturing. you know, this is pretty transparent here. the industry's pressuring i'm sure on their side of the aisle saying, oh, my god, don't do that. don't say that that 15% of the gas produced on federal lands belonging to the taxpayers of the united states has to be used here to keep down our prices for our homes, for our manufacturing, to give us a competitive world advantage. let's do it like all our other
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free trade which is bankrupting the country and exported millions of manufacturing jobs over the last few years. talked about it again. globally decided free market. use those words. let's have you know, if we go to a globally decided free market in the export of natural gas, we lose the advantage and the basic prems that i this will lower prices for americans is stood on its head. if you vote against this amendment you're voting to invees the -- to increase the price of natural gas according to the energy information -- energy information administration, for all consumers and manufacturers and the downstream products from those in the united states of america. so if you really want to lower the price to consumers, vote for this amendment. with that i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from washington is recognized. mr. hastings: mr. chairman, i am very pleased to yield two minutes to the gentleman from ohio, mr. turner. the chair: the gentleman from ohio is recognized for two minutes. mr. turner: thank you, mr.
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chairman. mr. chair, the defazio amendment is ill-conceived. creating jobs in the energy sector is creating american jobs. and this amendment would in fact inhibit our ability to reduce our trade deficit and also affects the issue of providing natural gas to our strategic allies. as a result of increased natural gas production, the price of natural gas has fallen over the last few years. making it competitive in the global marketplace. this presents an opportunity to export u.s. natural gas. many of our allies rely heavily upon a single source or unstable regions for natural gas. for example, russia has used its european market dominance, cutting off natural gas supplies over various disputes. poland is so eager to wean itself off of russia, it plans to buy gas 40% to 50% higher than russia just to be able to have some independence. increasing natural gas exports would provide our allies with
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an alternative and reliable source of energy, helping to strengthen our economic and geopolitical partnerships. it should be noted that the boom in natural gas production has already made an impact. supplies previously destined for our shores but no longer needed as an increased production have been diverted elsewhere. this increase in global supply has helped several european countries successfully renegotiate their long-term contracts with russia's state-owned monopoly. when it comes to trade, we often talk about barriers that other countries have to u.s. producers, ones that we must overcome in order to export. in this case, these are regulatory burdens we're placing on surselves that are preventing our ability to create jobs and preventing our ability to lower our overall trade deficit. restraining u.s. natural gas exports would only hurt our ability to bolster strategic partnerships and create jobs right here at home. the defazio amendment does nothing to decrease the cost currently of natural gas. this is an important ability to create jobs and lower our trade
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deficit. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from washington. mr. hastings: how much time do i have remaining? the chair: one minute. mr. hastings: i yield myself the balance of the time. i just simply want to say and correct my good friend from oregon, i did not say that because natural gas entered the international market it would become less valuable. i simply said it would become part of the global market. i daresay that when oil was discovered in pennsylvania, nobody thought that that oil would become a part of the world market but it has. but unfortunately, because we in the united states have not utilized our resources like we hould, with crude oil an not compete as we should with past decisions, there is a cartel that was formed internationally called opec. they control the oil market. the best way to beat cartels is to outsupply them. if we are going to be a leader in natural gas in the world, we ought to take advantage of that and lead when we can, but recognize that a free market
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gives the best services to people who are recipients of that. not only in the united states, but in america. with that i urge rejenks of this defazio amendment and -- rejection of the defazio amendment and i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from oregon. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. mr. defazio: mr. chairman, on that i ask for a recorded vote. the chair: in the opinion of the chair, the noes have. it. the gentleman from oregon is recognized. pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from oregon will be postponed. it is now in order to consider number 5 printed in part b of house report 113-271. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from texas seek recognition? ms. jackson lee: i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 5 printed in part b of house report 113-271 offered by ms.
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jackson lee of texas. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 419, the gentlewoman from texas, ms. jackson lee, and a member opposed will each control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from texas. ms. jackson lee: i will in a second, yield to the distinguished chairman, but just in a sentence, the jackson lee amendment is simple and will provide an annual review of any and all hydraulic fracturing activity and submit a report to congress. now i would like to yield to the chairman, chairman hastings, for the purposes of entertaining a question. mr. hastings: i thank the gentlelady for her amendment and thank her for yield to me for purposes of entering a colloquy. the text of the gentlelady's amendment requires the secretary of the interior to conduct an annual review on all state hydraulic fracturing
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activity. my concern is that this provision appears to be very broad. i would be delighted to work with the gentlelady as this bill works its way through the legislative process to consider some additional conditions to ensure that the broad review is targeted at those areas subject to the jurisdiction of the committee and the results in the report to congress as meaningful and productive. to that end, would the gentlelady be willing to work with me to clarify that her amendment is intended to apply to state permitting of hydraulic fracturing on federal lands? and i will yield back to the gentlelady. ms. jackson lee: i thank the chairman for yielding and thank him for working with me on this matter. i appreciate your willingness to work with me. i want to achieve what the ultimate intent was and that is to have this amendment pertain to federal lands. my response is that i do not
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object to a modification of the amendment to make clear that the review and report required of the secretary shall be limited to state permitting on federal lands which will provide this congress with necessary information on these processes. i yield to the chairman. mr. hastings: if that is the clarification, the gentlelady would work with me that this is subject to federal lands, with that clarification and the review and report required by the secretary should be limited to state permitting of hydraulic fracturing of lands, i am willing to accept the gentlelady's amendment and i thank her for her work on that and i'll yield back to the gentlelady. ms. jackson lee: i thank the mr. an and if i might, chairman, ask how much time is left. the chair: two and a half minutes. ms. jackson lee: thank you. i just want to briefly talk about the issues, i thank the gentleman for yielding. i want to indicate that we have the opportunity to do a number
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of things, create jobs, energy independence, preserve and create a strong economy and protect our environment. i am interested in seeing the opportunity for low-income families to be able to be helped in the cold of the winter and the heat of the summer, to be able to find relief from energy costs that we have talked about so often and i would hope that as we move forward with the legislation, we will be able to work together. i believe that the 2.1 million jobs that are created and that ' increase of the consumers household dollars and the amounts of money going into government treasury really should bring us together and my amendment is clarified by the chairman and my discussion and the colloquy is to give congress that oversight pertaining to those federal lands. i thank the chairman for his clarification and looking
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forward to working with him and maintaining the language in the bill, however, with the understanding that we will get that review for federal lands and that that will come if the secretary of the interior to the united states congress. with that, mr. chairman, i am we ing back and i believe have an accepted amendment. the chair: the gentlelady yields back. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from texas. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair the ayes have it. he amendment is agreed to. pursuant to clause 6 of rule 1, proceedings will now resume on those amendments printed in part b of house report 113-271 on which further proceedings were postponed in the following order. amendment number one by mr.
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holt of new jersey, amendment number four by mr. defazio of oregon. the chair will reduce to two minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote after the first vote in the series. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number one printed in part b of house report 113-271 by the gentleman from new jersey. mr. -- by the gentleman from new jersey, mr. holt, on which further proceedings were postponed, on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number one printed in house report 113-271 offered by mr. holt of new jersey. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the
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the chair asks that the committee now observe a moment of silence in remembrance of our briff men and women in uniform who have given their lives in service of our nation in iraq and afghanistan and their families and of all who serve our armed forces and their families. the chair: without objection, two-minute voting will continue. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 4 printed in rt b of house report 113-271 by the gentleman from oregon, mr. defazio, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 4 printed in part b of house report 113-271 offered by mr.
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defazio of oregon. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise nd be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. that will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 142. the nays are 276. he amendment is not adopted. there being no further amendments, the committee rises. the speaker pro tempore: mr. chairman. the chair: mr. speaker, the committee of the whole house on the state of the union having had under consideration h.r. 2728 and pursuant to house
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resolution 417, i report the amended endmented -- -- the speaker pro tempore: the chair of the committee of the whole house on the state of the union reports the committee has had under consideration the bill h.r. 2728 and pursuant to house resolution 419 reports the bill as amended by that resolution back to the house with sundry further amendments adopted in the committee of the whole. under the rule, the previous question is ordered. is there a separate vote demanded on any further amendment reported from the committee of the whole? if not, the chair will put them en gross. the question is on adoption of the amendment. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the amendments are adopted. the question is on engrossment and third reading of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. third reading. the clerk: a bill to recognize
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states' authority to regulate oil and gas operations and promote american energy, security, development and job creation. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. he gentleman will suspend. the house will be in order. the chair would ask members to please take their seats, would ask to please take your onversations from the floor. the chair would ask members on both sides of the aisle, please take their seats, remove their onversations from the floor. for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> i have a motion to recommit
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at the desk. the speaker pro tempore: is the gentleman opposed to the bill? mr. lowenthal: i am opposed in its current form. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman qualifies. the clerk will report the motion. the clerk: mr. lowenthal of california moves to recommit the bill h.r. 2728 to the committee on natural resources with instructions to report the same back to the house forth itwith following amendments, age 1, line 14, strike the and insert accept as provided in subsection c the. insert accept as provided in subsection c, the. page 2, after line 11, insert e following -- the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? >> i ask to dispense with reading. the speaker pro tempore: is there objection? without objection, so ordered. the house will be in order. . the speaker pro tempore: members, please take your seats
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and staff, please remove your conversations from the floor. the gentleman from california is recognized for five minutes. mrs. lowey: this is the final mendment to -- mr. lowenthal: this will not kill the bill. mr. speaker, transparency and public disclosure ingredients to successful public policy and i would dare say so -- > the house is not in order. the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california eserves to be heard. the gentleman from california. mr. lowenthal: my amendment would provide just that,
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transparency and public disclosure of the hydraulic fracturing operations that are now prolific in so many states. do t now, our communities not have reliable or complete formation about fracking operations. communities have the right to know. if the public has the right to know what ingredients are in their food, don't our communities need to know what they are going to pump past their drinking water. don't our communities have the right to know where the oil and gas industry is going to store these millions of gallons of unknown chemicals and constam natured slurry. does the public have the right to know about public land use changes, doesn't the communities have the right to know when the
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oil and gas industry is going to start fracking next door, with s truck traffic, noise and derricks. i hope transparency and public disclosure would be a bipartisan issue. i certainly hear about transparency from the majority when this chamber is talking about other federal programs. we should be consistent and make sure that people in our communities also have a right to know about fracking chemicals injected below their back yards, their schools, their farms and their parks. and to those who would resist providing the community a right to know about fracking operations, i would warn that you prevent transparency at the oil and gas industry's own peril. to develop our resources responsibly and to harness the
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benefits of the shale gas boom, we need the public's trust and industry will not earn it if they hide the facts. when the oil and gas industry refused to disclose the facts, it's natural for the public to ask then, why won't the industry tell us what chemicals they're using? what are they hiding? when the oil and gas industry hides the facts, it erodes the public's trust and breeds suspicion. hiding the facts prevents first responders and health workers from understanding how to appropriately treat exposed individuals after a fracking accident. hiding the facts prevents emergency officials from understanding how to properly contain and clean up a chemical spill after a fracking accident. hiding the facts prevents the public from knowing which chemicals to test for in their drinking water before, during
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and after fracking. hiding the facts prevents researchers who conduct chemical transport studies from understanding the prevalence, the movement and the longivity of fracking chemicals in the subsurface environment. hiding the facts prevents the public from verifying the oil and gas industry's assertion that hydraulic fracturing is safe. don't hide the facts. our communities have a right to know. vote yes on the motion to ecommit. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? mr. flores: i rise in opposition to the motion to recommit. the speaker pro tempore: is the gentleman opposed? mr. flores: i'm opposed to the motion. mr. speaker, this should be pretty easy.
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in my earlier amendment that was approved by voice vote we addressed the concerns raised by the gentleman from california so let's move on down the road and vote for american jobs and american energy. vote is to regain the in the world's position, a product of the shale energy boon. middle class energy jobs are returning to the u.s. after generations of decline. our nation's production is a huge blow to unstable and unfriendly areas like russia and the middle east who previously dictated the world's supply of energy. shale energy supported 2.1 million jobs. turning our backs on the shale energy boon would cause the federal government to lose billions of dollars in the next decade and a half. the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. house is not in order.
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the chair would ask all members to take their conversations from the floor and take their seats. mr. flores: i would repeat the issue that was raised was already in my amendment that was passed by voice vote earlier today. lower energy costs for american families, a cleaner environment, increase in american manufacturing jobs and domestic energy security would all be lost without the underlying bill. i urge my colleagues to oppose this motion to recommit and support abundant, safe and clean energy through the protecting states' rights. vote yes for american jobs. thank you, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. without objection, the previous question is ordered on the motion to recommit. the question is on the motion to recommit. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the noes have it. mr. lowenthal: i demand a recorded vote.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. the speaker pro tempore: a recorded vote is requested. those favoring a recorded vote will rise, a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is -- pursuant to clause 9 of rule 20, this is a five-minute vote on the motion to rechit and will be followed by a five-minute vote on passage of the bill, if ordered. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of epresentatives.]
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 188. the nays are 233. the motion is not adopted. pardon. the yeas are 188 and the nays is 232 and the motion is not adopted. the question is on final passage of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. the gentleman from new jersey. mr. holt: i ask for a recorded vote. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman asks for a recorded vote. a recorded vote is requested. those favoring a recorded vote will rise and remain standing. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 23 5. the nays are 187. the bill is passed. without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that when the house adjourns today it adjourn to meet at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. the chair lays before the house the following enrolled bill. the clerk: h.r. 1848, an act to ensure that the federal
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aviation administration advances the safety of small airplanes and the continued development of the general aviation history and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will now entertain requests for one-minute speeches. for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? mr. thompson: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. thompson: mr. speaker, i rise today to celebrate the life of jim holden, a resident of franklin. an outdoor enthusiast who's tirelessly promoted recreation and tourism in pennsylvania, he passed away at the age of 93. the co-founder of the allegeny trails association, jim was instrumental in the rails to trails movement, an effort in the early 1990's, to take abandoned railways for the public to access and enjoy.
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franklin's newspaper stated the following upon jim's passing. larningly unrealized is how holden's impact impacted the economy hard hit over the loss of blue-collared manufacturing jobs which made the region the most prosperous in all of the country. his passing will leave some mighty big hiking shoes to fill. he knew our recreational resources could be better utilized to the betterment of the community and economy. he spent his life making his vision a reality. our thoughts and prayers are with jim holden and his family. he surely did leave big boots to fill but also an enduring legacy for us to cherish and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the entleman from maryland rise? california. without objection. mr. speaker, some of my colleagues want to go back to
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the old way of doing business on health insurance. mr. huffman: we can't go back to the days with people with pre-existing conditions were denied coverage and women were asked to pay more simply because they're women. we know the a.c.a. rollout has not been perfect. we knew all along a reform of this magnitude would require some adaptive management. it happened with social security and medicare, but we worked together to improve those cornerstones of our social safety net, not tear them down. so let's work to fix the problems of the a.c.a., but let's tell the whole story, including the good parts of this law. in california, we are on track to meet our enrollment goals. tens of thousands of people already enrolled. i'm hearing countless good news stories about the a.c.a. a mom whose son was hospitalized with a brain tumor who would have hit a lifetime cap but now they have coverage and they can focus on that child's recovery. a constituent in trinity county he and his wife emailed me they're buying a car with the savings they're achieving
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thanks to the a.c.a. and dozen and dozen more success stories because of this law. i hope my republican colleagues will join in fixing the problems with this law and giving it a chance to work. there are too many good things happening because of health care reform to go back to the old way of doing business. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from minnesota rise? mr. paulsen: during the month of november, we celebrate adoption, being national adoption month of the last year american parents proudly adopted over 135 children at birth from foster homes and overseas. i would like to bring special attention to the american families that are no longer to adopt from guatemala and russia. i signed on two separate letters with members from both the house and senate to ask these two
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governments to resume adoption cases for american families. we should not be limited by the country they are born into. let's create effective strategies to work towards the day when every child has the opportunity to be in a safe and loving home. and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from missouri rise? >> request permission to address the house and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> someone said to the new e.p.a. administrator that she wasn't living in the real world with regard to climate change. my question today is that those who are questioning whether she lives in the real world would say the same thing to survivors
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of the typhoon of biblical proportions that just devastated the philippines where 4,000 people have been impacted. cleaver kwleefer this was the strong -- mr. cleaver:, this was the strongest typhoon on record. and i wonder if she would tell the people who were hit with tornadoes this weekend. 60 tornadoes were reported, eight people were killed and damage estimated to be at least $1 billion. weather-related losses and damages have risen from $50 billion to $200 billion annually. putting our heads in the sand will not stop the reality that our climate is changing and human beings are part of the reason. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois rise? >> request unanimous consent to
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revise and stepped my remarks and address the house. mr. shimkus: on october 27, i was honored to observe the recent presidential elections in the republic of georgia in which the new president was elected. it was calm and was a substantial reduction of complaints filed with the election commission. the president was elected with 62% vote in an election that was described as an important milestone in georgia's democratic development. in keeping with his promise to step down, the prime minister appointed a successor on november 2. he was most recently the minister of interior appointed by the prime minister after the georgia's dream coalition. prior to his work in government,
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he headed the charitable organization and holds a graduate degree from the university of paris and i was pleased to visit the republic of georgia and be involved in the democratic process. with that, mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. are there any members who wish to give additional one-minute speeches? we will move to special orders. under the speaker's announced policy ofian 3, 2013, the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. capuano is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader. mr. capuano: tonight, several members wanted to discuss the retirement of a very good friend of ours who deserves our recognition and with that, i'm going -- because there are so many people with busy schedules, m going to yield to minority whip, mr. hoyer. as long as you want, steny.
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don't worry. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, we bring the house to order. there are some people from massachusetts causing a disturbance. capuano, who r. represents a famous area of america, south boston, a wonderful area of our country. as every member of this house knows, we rely on an outstanding group of professionals who manage the floor and the party cloak rooms. this is true for democrats and republicans. on the democratic side, we have been incredibly fortunate to have been served with great ability by a devoted public servant with a wonderful sense of humor, a sense of this house, a sense of history, a sense of
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decency and a sense of how to help members greatly. he has managed our cloakroom for the past 33 years. that man devoted to the smooth running of the people's house day in and day out is barry sullivan. and as he prepares to retire from service, i want to join not only those from massachusetts who are justifiably very proud of him as a brother from their own state, but also all of those in the house, on both sides of the aisle, but particularly on our side of the aisle, who have been advantaged by his service, by his good humor and by his caring. barry, a native of south boston came in 1980 to work as a sergeant--in-arms as a door kepper. he was manager of the democratic
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cloakroom and has been reapointed. his father, leo, had beven a massachusetts state senator and a boston police commissioner. he never thought he would stay in washington for more than a couple of years, but the call to serve this house and his country proved too strong. and his country and each of us and this institution have been advantaged by his staying. so barry brought a little bit of boston to the capitol. i'm not -- i'm not sure that is accurate, he brought a lot of boston, a shrine to the boston red sox and place of homecoming for massachusetts members. every time our members' beepers would announce votes, it was his accent that came across the air waves to tell us what was going on. barry has made the cloakroom feel like a home, a home away
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for all of us and he will be missed dearly and greatly who came to cherish his friendship and comradeship. barry who sits with us on the floor, barry, we wish you all the best in retirement, both to you and to your lovely bride barbara, whom i had the opportunity of knowing very well almost as long as i have known you. she was a special person and had a special connection to this house, because she was the daughter of our former colleague, bill hughes of new jersey. bill hughes represented the people of new jersey well and i served along side him on the financial services committee. now as the sunny shores of cape farewell him, we bid
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which will be missed both on and off this floor. barry, thank you and god speed. and i yield back to the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. capuano: thank you, mr. hoyer. mr. speaker, i would like to yield as much time as he may consume to the dean of the massachusetts delegation, mr. neal. mr. neal: i thank mr. capuano and i thank mike capuano for organizing this event. barry sullivan is a reminder of the men and women who serve this institution to make sure it runs as efficiently as it possibly can. we depend here on accurate data and information and to call barry sullivan any time of the day or night, you could get the best information that was available at that moment. beyond that, an individual of
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great humor, the ability to laugh at himself, the ability to chuckle with all of us. i recall with some humor, he was in a great state of did youres nd that was he had delivered chairmanerry muffin to moakley. i saw barry. he said, if i get anything else accomplished, i will get a second blueberry muffin. day in and day out, these individuals make us look good. they oversee a complex process in that cloakroom of trying to adhere to the rules of the house and at the same time making sure that the members of congress again are well positioned not only in terms of time, but in terms of time management. and it's been a pleasure for me. he welcomed me here in 1988, one
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of the first people i met, there were others in the massachusetts delegation, nick comes to mind ds and we were always proud of barry sullivan and we got to know barry as well. i wish him well and we could all take great confidence from the fact that he was a student of this institution and held the highest regard for it. he was resee him blens of . akley and o'nil who referred mr. capuano: i yield time to the former head of the democratic , mr. larson.
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mr. larson: both steny and rich have said it well. everything that's rich about public service is embodied in the service provided by barry sullivan. as rich pointed out, to have come here with tip and joe, puts you in the stars of new england. i would point out to mr. capuano, rich neal is not only the dean of the massachusetts delegation but the dean of the new england delegation and barry sullivan is new england through and through. he's irish, he's catholic, he's red sox, celtic, bruin and patriots and he gets us through the day.
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my first encounter with him came over in the pennsylvania corner where he would be summoned on a regular basis. i thought he was jack murta's personal valet. i didn't know there was a white button that they would press but he would appear out of the back room and would assure mr. murtha things would be right. what time we would get out of here and all the essentials that members need. the wonderful thing about barry, his three sons and barbara is that he apit mieses class. he is such a gentleman, even among the most tense of situations, he's there for all of us, most notably to remind you to vote and stick your card in and adhere to the rules of the floor here. but it's that class and the
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professionalism that he brings to the job. the elevation of public service is something that another man from massachusetts provided to public , to elevate life whether as an elected official or in the service of your country or whether it's being a clerk in this house, whether it's running the democratic caucus or whether it's being in the peace corps, john fitzgerald kennedy made it elevated the whole notion of public service. barry, you ex emapply file the know built that kennedy ushered the d gave credence to public of service. god bless you, barry and your entire family.
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mr. keating: thank you, mr. speaker, i will now yield to the phenomenal representative of mr. sullivan, who will be joining countless people as we have already seen from representatives from maryland, representatives we'll hear from from vermont, new york, california and new jersey, all envious of being associated with massachusetts officials and mr. sullivan. we understand the humility. and i yield my time to the gentleman from virginia, mr. connolly. . . mr. connolly: i thank my colleague. i assure him it bonet be -- it won't be lengthy. when i first heard that barry sullivan was retiring, my reaction was, say it ain't so.
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