kevin brady. 8:45, representative when more. -- gwen moore. >> on this vote the eyes are 100 32, -- are 332. the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. ♪ with that vote, the house finished its work for 2013, it is now up to the senate to debate the budget agreement. this morning on "washington journal" we want to get your reaction. the house passing a two-year budget agreement last night.

the numbers -- you can also participate via social media. there will be a facebook conversation going on that you can participate in, facebook.com/speak -- facebook.com/c-span. morning, the house budget passes budget accord. voted 332-94 to approve a two-year budget outline that would reduce the chance of another government shutdown and and the cycle of crisis budgeting that has been the scourge of washington for much of the past three years. the budget approval --

that legislation will head next week to the senate -- you and you and you

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-- $1.012.2 trillion trillion. it eliminates the threat of another government shutdown and saved 28 lien dollars over 10 anrs, it does not include extension of unemployment benefits, and replaces $63 billion in sequester cuts with other savings. comes from john, a democrat from pittsburgh. i think it is great the budget he'll finally got past. it is extremely disappointing that they left out people that are forced to be on unemployment at this time.

my first question is, i would like somebody to a dress -- if they had a person on unemployment that was about to run out, what with a suggests this person do you go my second question would be when is the infrastructure going to be dealt with? like it would create millions of jobs right there. the federal government built the interstate would -- the interstate highway system and it makes sense that we should put something together to get them back into shape. i will take my answer off-line. if host: we appreciate your comments. 32 democrats refused to swallow budget is the headline on this article. hill" newspaper is this article --

nancy pelosi spoke about be buttered yesterday, here is a little bit about what she had to say. [video clip] growth iste jobs and to pass the on employment insurance. the republicans said no. getting rid of sequestration was -- it was thats one goal and that one point of our recommendation of the house democratic budget, which works -- we fought it to a drop. let's get it off the table. let's move on to addressing specific issues. raising the minimum wage, passing an immigration bill, passing the background check

theseation, and all of things have overwhelming support, not only in the general public but among strong support among republicans. timothy is calling from north carolina on our independent line. what is your thoughts on this budget agreement? caller: the first thing obama can get -- we don't want another government shutdown. this should be telling the american people they need to get out and vote and put the people in their. span and a lot of agencies are not pointing out that -- not pointing out what people should see. they need to send the money back your tax-free.

they don't want to close the loopholes for the rich. they can put it back into society for the economy. cut foodt want to stamps, which we need to keep the economy going. wants andobama infrastructure job bill. we need to look at what each and which side is for the american people. it's really a shame. neither side will address the real issue. the real issue is the gas prices. ever since the republicans first -- gas went up.

this allay up to -- gs to us and host: thank you for your point. debbie is calling in. glad to see the are doing something together. -- the republicans and democrats are doing something together. andsh the democrats republicans would take a good look at all of their candidates. the town hall meetings, question them, what are their beliefs, what will they do for them? friends --e your,

then vote your conscience. this tweet says -- here is the vote itself, this is from "the washington post" -- here are some of the no votes create -- no votes --

the democratic whip voted against the budget agreement. a tea party conservative and kansas voted against it. sam johnson, in other conservative. lee, a well-known progress in california, sander -- on the wayse and means committee, voted against the agreement as well. a democrat from maine voted against it. democrat from new orleans the, against. steve scully's, chair of the republican study committee voted against it. announced he is going to run against john cornman in

texas. he voted against it. indiana -- those are some of the notes. our two guests are coming up, kevin brady, chair of the joint economic committee. and the manager -- and a member of the budget committee voted for the agreement. from "wall street journal" this morning --

next call comes from rob in arizona. what do you think about the house bill? good morning america. my name is rob from arizona. what i would like to say is --tly to do with percentages corporate taxes may be up to 23% will we have to get out of the budget he'll.

ii, when kennedy put the corporate rate down to -- basically it is all about the taxes. if there is a big political -- from the the no national and corporate network to buy a more government -- that is a very important item. when the republicans cause ,rashes and everything else because they want to manipulate everything and have their power, what it means is that the next upcoming bubble, they are going to buy off more but -- more government. host: the senate is due to take

up this budget agreement. let's say they do not pass it. here are some key dates that could impact us next year. 15, the current continuing resolution expires, the one that was passed to and the government shutdown. in the second year of sequestration officially begins that they -- that they, too. day, two. date can behat pushed a little bit. it has already been pushed off -- some reports have said until the summer. front page of "washington times" this morning --

sarah for massachusetts, republican, good morning. caller: my question is in this new budget that has been passed, being a government employee and not having a raise for the past four years, sustaining and administrative for low this past summer, initially set to be 22 days then ramped down to 10 with

a final of six days -- having not received a raise for the past four years and withstand the administrative furlough, i was of -- i was fortunately not low --d by the last for the last furlough. what is the projection for the budget for government employees you don't -- employees? they have taken out the provisions for a routine eye exam. what are the projections for the federal employee? thank you for your call to "washington journal." doris is in chicago, democrat. i can answer the lady's question. i went to the senate and read their bill. federalpunishing the

workers. and that is because they have this irrational hatred of the american government. any times you see we have democrats capitulating everything the republicans want -- to the crowds got nothing out of this budget. we have five dollar increase in , we have theees federal girl -- the federal workers receiving less because they have to pay more, and defense has got more money. this is the second time the defense department has gotten more money. got -- i thinke we lost doris. we are going to move to gym in delaware on the republican line. the house passed a budget deal last night, what do you think? caller: today's last two federal workers, i say boo-hoo, welcome to the world of the private

sector. has beenhe way it going for people who create stuff instead of just take, like the people who work for the federal government. this is rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. mr. weiner says we should just go a little bit slower toward that iceberg. ashes to boehner says we should just go a little bit slower toward that iceberg. we are heading for a crash. the senate and the congress and the house are playing smoke and mirrors. --ent to washington it washington a couple of weeks ago. it looked like shane high because there are careens and construction and all kinds of stuff going on. because washington is sucking the life out of america. it is a shame they are playing these charades with the american people right now. >> that is jim in delaware.

this is from "the hill" newspaper. penny, democrat, san diego, you are on "washington journal." i am very concerned, i spent a lot of time with people who have very low income. i see the focus is to cut these programs from people for jobless , andits, for food stamps you have no idea how much people suffered because of it. at the same time we have these corporations that take their jobs overseas.

fundingo not have the that we would get from that resource. that would be a better avenue than taking resources from people who desperately need them. >> thank you. from the independent line. caller: i think it was a good thing that aynor and ryan finally stood up to some of these divisive cruise. i find it a travesty how we cannot extend unemployment benefits. don opines in "the washington times" this morning --

this is anthony, a republican, from garfield new jersey. are you with us? yes.r: topic from is off the budget situation. wanted to comment on the house committee hearing yesterday about the obama care bill. ifas very pleased to see handle of medical professionals rather than legislatures, politicians, government

we got to hear from the medical professionals off of the front lines of the industry and the people who were seeing firsthand the, other than the patient's, the people are seeing firsthand what this law is doing to them. we are talking about the house passing the budget deal last night. here is "the l.a. times" -- peter is a democrat in kentucky. caller: good morning. i feel like the budget being passed is another win for the democrats. my comment would be -- i feel the republicans should give more of what they want to get to.

i think it was too much of a win on the democratic side. republicans need to have more of a complete -- more of a compromise. host: "the star-ledger" -- and diane is coming from connecticut. caller: good morning. now that speaker boehner feels the house is being divided, is the division from within making such a problem that he wants to get a visit from the tea party. the democrats do not want them. the republicans scoop them up.

now that they are ruining it, he is starting to feel like maybe he should not have done that. is he feeling like how can he get rid of them or is he stuck with them or is there going to be more problems because of them? how is he going to go about this now. somehow he should not have accepted them. is it worth the risk in having them or getting rid of them? [video clip] >> i think they are misleading their followers. frankly i think they have lost all credibility.

us in the slate to defund obamacare and shut down the government. that wasn't exactly the strategy i had in mind. as you recall, the day before the government real, one of these groups stood up and said they did not think it would work. are you kidding me? i said, you all know me. i say what i mean and i mean what i say. i am as conservative as anybody around this place. done overings we have the three years i have been speaker has not violated any conservative principle, not once. linda from maryland on our democrats line. what do you think? i watched so much of c- span and i have watched so many

hearings. when they talk about the american people, he is talking about me and republicans and democrats that are out of work. to have no savings, we have gone -- i have no family so what happens? i use the place i rented? i am just as angry at the democratic party. crucial.eally i think they are a disgrace. i don't quite understand what we are going through. and was told i was

the best cook in the archdiocese. when you work for the archdiocese, even though 100 other people wanted to hire me, you cannot once you leave one directory or one church. i went through the benefits of my unemployment. host: how long have you been unemployed? caller: since april 30. i went to the genesis of all the brightview.rgers -- i have a waiting list of people. it is the only thing that can stop me from getting genesis on five interviews. they needed a chef that has more skills. that wasn't a problem at the first interview.

got a smart phone with everything i can on that it. they're cutting somebody off, especially people like me. i lost money, my social security would be nothing. my 40's, not my 60's. there is no place to go. i'm going to a job fair at 12:30 today. i'm going to ask them to help , instead ofine going in person. i am up to date on everything. nothing has come through for me. i am broken hearted. i have never used my vacation money.

that only got me through two months. just regular gas and car insurance, i drive a 10-year-old i used to thatnd the first two months and then i got unemployment. the unemployment did nothing. how much do you get in unemployment? caller: $383 per week. that is pretty good considering. whatever the rest i had of whenke up each month i did not have to pay my bills. now i am going to be bad on my credit card for the first time

after 40 years. i'm going to have to go bankrupt. been here 12 years. -- i have been here 12 years and i'm going to lose my house. people.e arrogant the nancy pelosi grew up where we are. she looked like an idiot on television yesterday, she should not have voted for it. they should at least get 13 weeks, at least a month of unemployment to these people. i'm sorry. host: linda from parkville, maryland calling them. of from "the political ledger" --

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they go on to say what the agreement increases spending in it only contains $6.5 billion worth of deficit reducing offsets during those years. years that really matter. only 10% of the new spending in these early years is offset in real time. that is from heritage action. joshua writes --

that is from freedom works. richmond virginia, good morning, you are on the washington journal. caller: i am proud of what john boehner has done. if he is going to criticize people for being republican, what i have to say is it depends on america and she depends on -- lifestyle and the ability

they're people who depend on our government to have something. they really don't know what to do. man and i don't know how to get out of the hustle and do things. paul ryan, i really did not like him. i have to control the money i spent. you put money out and things started cost a lot more. be -- i014 is going to do not like the tea party.

it is a 40 year or 50 year thing. all these people went over to the republican party. it has changed. money really try to keep their money. some of these people are really not that intelligent and do not understand. the society has to have money and you have to have money to spend. -- the federal service. -- i am civil

i retired in 1992 and civil service. we need to bring this to a conclusion. caller: we got to spend more money on people that need money and we got to put more money in the federal retirement system for people. kevin is in texas, democrat, hello. want to sympathize with linda from maryland. i know there are a lot of people out there like that. to put into perspective for extending the unemployment benefits for these 1.3 billion -- they set to expire say the average is $1000 per month for these unemployment that would bed about $1.3 billion. we are talking about a $23 billion budget deficit reduction

. why couldn't they throw in a couple of extra million dollars? these people, they deserve this. when corporations and the right- are shifting all our -- our jobs overseas for cheap labor and paying no taxes, why can't they give a little bit to the little guy? here is an e-mail from mark in washington --

from national review online -- finally, from "the nation closed "uote newsnet -- "the nation

newsmagazine. what do you think about this budget agreement? caller: you hear me?

my problem is [indiscernible] i just found out that the medicare plan, when you move , theyne state to another docked me $400. and then i went to the local social service to find out what was wrong. time in 10 first years that this has ever happened. the people that over to their -- i'm trying to limit my budget on medicare and security.

what about christmas? what i am crying about is if you buy a house and you can't afford -- thank you for your time. host: some tweets. a ridiculously small deal, something for congress 2.2 -- to point to.ss we just need senate to work the same way.

those are some of the tweets we have received. coming up, to guests. one is a democrat from wisconsin. up next is kevin brady, who serves on the ways and means committee and is chair of the economic committee. we will be right back with mr. brady. ♪

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these are high-stakes. host >> talks continue on freezing of iran's nuclear program. two's booktv, dick cheney and his longtime cardiologist talk about the president's former history with heart disease and recent advances in cardiology. tv, a american history look at the free african american men and slaves who fought for the union, sunday at 11 a.m. eastern. representative kevin brady, how did you vote last night? guest: i supported the agreement. the biggest bust we have is the affordable care act. i think it is important we not distract the country's attention from a very distressing bill.

secondly, i want to support the sequester but i want to redesign it, especially on the defense side. i think provided relief for military was important. every time we get a chance to reduce the deficit, my car votes yes to. that my card votes yes. >> a lot of the conservative groups are very critical of the agreement. they say the spending is up front but the savings is on the backend. guest: when i first saw the grimmett i thought i would not like this. and then i realized these were real cuts on the mandatory side. they may not be big but they were real. on the discretionary side, spending comes first. mending takes a while to build up those savings. budget, they year

are more real. host: what did you think of speaker boehner's criticism? i had the same impression to begin with. as you dug into it it was a real agreement. conservatives, we are not funding the government the way we were four years ago, which is what we were today is what we do today. it gives the divided government a chance to focus on principles and the appropriations. i thought it was important. unemployment benefits is the first thing he is going to bring up in january. guest: we have yet to hear the white house talk about the need for this.

president has been giving speeches, telling us the economy is improving. benefits arecy designed for when unemployment is high and going up. that is not the case and states. it certainly has not been a priority for the president. i think the senate and harry reid ought to pick up one of the 150 jobs bills we have sent to them. 202 is the area code. texasa republican from chairman of the ways and mean's committee. the numbers -- you can also participate from twitter or e-mail.

unemployment benefits -- if unemployment benefits have been included, how would you have voted? under law, they have gone beyond what their purpose is. the focus is how we get these folks back to work. almost every report shows that the longer you are out of work, the less chance you get back to work. two years ago, when we reached an agreement to extend unemployment, the white house is agreed to extend unemployment programs, match local workers every state has been pushed off. i don't think there's the trust level they are serious about, doing what needs to be done to get folks back into jobs. $12.6 billion in security

fees for new airline passengers. is this a new task? i believe this was included in the house conservatives budget. pay the share of the securities that go with it. i do not like to pay higher passenger fees. i know they are there because i am there. my mom cannot travel anymore. host: chris in west virginia, you are on with representative kevin brady from texas. are you with us? caller: i'm here. there is going to be no extension of unemployment?

the job market went south on us. host: actually there is. are unemployed can receive 26 weeks from unemployment in the state. rising, they qualify for another 20 weeks of unemployment. washington, especially the white house, has played a role in losing the jobs because of their focus on removing calls as an affordable source of energy. i think our focus ought to be helping people who are out of work. that is the best help we can provide. does this budget deal throw in the towel for republicans on the affordable care act? sense that it funds it and it is not a d funding

mechanism. a lot of groups argue to vote against it so that it would be a the funding mechanism. i think the house has successfully defunded about 55 alien dollars. long -- the is the wrong solution for health care. is that wee learned can bring the american people along with us. the more they see the impact of this law and on local businesses, the better opportunity we have to make the changes we would like to see. the budget agreement made sure -- the american public actually seeing this new health care law. host: did the shutdown hurt the

american brandon? guest: it did. it took the american public that agreed with us and into an a half weeks increased approval ratings. conservatives, obamacare continues. of and troll of the government over to the president. for us, that is not much leverage. next call is chuck from saint augustine, florida. comment onanted to the successful rogue ramming in congress that really has worked in the last five years. we give them their bonuses, we

give them their tax cuts. socialized banking stairs is right in the face. socialized banking stairs us right in the face. i would like your comments on that. i agree with you. i think the bailout was necessary to stop some of these prices that were reaching across the world. i did not want the mistakes of --l street and washington certainly the legislation that was passed and the dodd frank bill gives a wrong solution via i think it institutionalized our government. big banks have gotten bigger. community banks have been in place for 20 years. are-run community leaders

struggling. i don't know of these banks will survive. i think the dodd frank legislation, i think it has been very damaging to our community banks. >> we are hearing from --host: we are hearing from our conservative twitters, who may or may not be tea party followers. he says you are no conservative. james says resign with dignity, representative brady, before we tar and feather you. are you hearing this sentiment from members of the tea party and some members of the right? guest: back home, we visit a lot with the tea party. we are a conservative state. the principle of limited government, more responsibility i agree with.s, for the most part, we're not hearing that.

their frustration is they would like washington and i would like washington to tackle the biggest budget issues, not just the health care law, but social security and medicare are in deep trouble and everybody knows it. we know what to do to solve it for the long term. their frustration is get a backbone, congress. i am ready to. our republican conference in the tose of all stripes is ready tackle how we pay social security and medicare. siteed the president to down with us and figure out how to do that. from the next call comes chuck. independent from florida. caller: i was just on the air. host: i am sorry. i should pay more attention.

alan. south carolina. go ahead. caller: good morning, gentlemen. i would like to say thank you to representative brady for attempting to show he has a conservative viewpoint on the banking issue. my concern is congress has for a number of years hampered with trying to figure out which of the economic symptoms are the most important, and has never yet addressed what the disease is, and the disease is they continue to borrow hundreds of billions of dollars every year from privately owned central banks. that has to stop. if you do not stop that, the disease is going to kill us, and it looks like the disease is getting rapid. i will take my answer off of the air. that. i appreciate

this budget agreement, very modest, no question about it. both the white house, democrats, republicans, they are not tackling the biggest issues we have. rather than the discretionary, or the big autopilot spending programs we have, we have avoided the tough issues facing the country and as a result we continue to far more than we can afford. right now, interest rates are extremely low. -- when those go back to normal, the government will feel the full payment of theborrowing -- pain of borrowing and over-spending we are doing. we need to act now because the future does not look right in that area. host: where is your district? guest: it is north of houston, nine counties.

a changed in redistricting. it is a mixture of suburban, technology, health care. host: what is the unemployment situation? guest: thankfully, texas is doing well. we are overall around 6% and we are in one of the boom areas of the country with energy and trade doing well. health care is stagnant because of the changes in the law but we are very fortunate. host: chester in dayton, ohio. democrats. guest: good morning. representative brady, i would like this question also post to representative moore -- i would like to see a constitutional -- separatingrate out social setting its -- safety net.

guest: for what purpose? safety i want to see the nets separated for people that want to participate in them, as it would allow people to raise funds. people that do not want to participate, get out of the way, really. you can raise funds. in times like this, the unemployed, we could be putting moneyo work, and have the for people that want to participate in the programs. guest: that is the first time that i heard that idea, but i agree that we need not just government help, but community help in the maximum use of local workers with local jobs. we have a lot of emphasis here in washington on compassion on how long you extend benefits, rather than how soon you get people back into a job and back on their feet. -- the same thing

with minimum wage. the goal should not be to raise them wage, but to get people off of it. often times in washington we miss the real goal of what these programs should be. host: morning file clerk on twitter -- do we need a budget at all what we have done well living off of cr's? guest: we have not done well. just the opposite. essentially say let's fund the government the way it was. for nearlye that four years. do you fund your family the way it looked four years ago, your business? the answer is absolutely not, it is crazy. federalat at the government level. it is allowed lawmakers to sure responsibilities. in that area, what paul ryan and

wastor murray achieved forcing congress to get back and do their job. host: let's say the senate passes this budget next week, it goes to the president and he signs it, what is the next up? these are top-level numbers. guest: it is important to have the top-level numbers that we have not had in a long time. i am not an appropriator, but i assume they will go to work over the holidays, taking the bills that have been asked in the house, debated in the senate, and put together a coordinated spending bill before january, and then begin the work after that to fund the government the correct way the next year, moving the appropriations bills forward. as ill not be as smooth just described, but it is night and day better than what we had. host: if the senate passes this bill next week, what happens to

them january 15 cr running out? they will have to write bills for a topline number. they will not have the holiday that i am having. they have a lot of work to do. it will be refreshing to see that. host: there is no threat of a government shutdown on january 15? guest: no. host: mike. kentucky. just fine.m doing can you hear me ok? host: we are listening. caller: i'm a retired military. themy neighbors that form combat brigade -- when you're doing 1% reduction on combat troops, and you understand only one in a of those guys sign up

-- that sign up at age 18 or 20 actually make it to retirement, and if they retire at 42, and 62, forks in until age most of them, that is over $100,000. spread that over 20 years, and that is $5,000 a year, and i any no idea if you have idea how much they make, but it is not much. pay, none of that other stuff added on. most of the wives and a few husbands who have wives in anniston, are not telling their -- in afghanistan are telling their husbands to get out. theyast comment i have is really thought that congress had their back because they are out there dying for you. they are now in their 13th year of combat. world war ii lasted three years.

will all right, mike, we get a response from congressman brady. caller: hang on -- guest: let me start with this. my brother is active duty. much they make in the military, and you are right, it is not much, but i do think you mischaracterize this agreement. . took a hard look at that area he will retire while he can still work another job. two things -- the sequester left in place without this budget agreement, would have done tremendous damage on our military, including that combat brigade you are referencing. it is critically important to our defense, especially our men and women, support for their families -- it was critical that this agreement redesigns the sequester and protects those men and women.

it was a major reason i supported this. secondly, the cost of living in retirement will continue to occur, but for those that are working age, those that require will see before 62 full retirement benefits, a cost-of-living increase. it will be slightly smaller of 62,hey get to the age and then it catches up and they get full cost-of-living after that in their retirement age when they need it the most. at the end, using those resources to support the active men and women today, i think that is critical. host: kevin brady, you supported the sequester early this year. was it not working? guest: i think it was working modestly, but we have seen the first two years in a half- century with a total budget for the government actually shrunk a

little. i do not want to over-cell that, but it started in the right direction. we were asking the 500 pound government to lose 10 pounds. that is what the sequester did, and we will continue to do that, but my frustration is defense cuts and we are missing the bigger picture -- what we need to do on social security and medicare. we have to act now. there are reasonable, good ideas to move forward. everyone says it is the wrong time, there is an election, but we have to tackle that point. i think the sequester ms. d 800 pound gorilla we need to address. the sequester missed the hundred pound gorilla we need to address. host: james is asking if the addresses will need to address? lot, thes, but not a

cuts are real. when i first voted for the budget control act in sequester, we were told then these are not real cuts, they will never materialize. they were. i look at these, and they are even more real. if we could cut the deficit and we designed this for our military and force congress back .o work, i think that works host: sandy beach follows up -- isn't it true that all of the savings negotiated by mr. ryan are backloaded? can you promise that democrats will not reneged on them? guest: i cannot promise, but these are changes in law the way this bill is signed, but the difference is the way you spend a dollar today, the mandatory programs that have the savings them,them, -- savings in

they take a while to build up. they start slowly. start a nature, they little slow, but these are real cuts. host: jeff is in texas. republican line. jeff, go ahead with your question or comment for kevin brady. guest: a, mr. brady, how are you doing? hey, mr. beatty, how are you doing? guest: how is taxes? -- how is texas? caller: it is a little cold, but we are ok. when i was young my mother and father were besides themselves because i did not keep one job. i always switch jobs, and now people that are 46 have problems

finding a job, that i will not have a problem finding a job. i will not have to have a job at mcdonald's. andou are 40 years old working at mcdonald's, it is not my fault. it is your fault and regardless of the government or whatever. if you did not see 20 years ago that there were going to be problems with holding just one job, you are shortsighted, and it comes back to not looking far enough ahead to plan. now, all of us that did are now paying for all of those that did not. you could pick up any paper in the country and find coming jobs, construction jobs. these people are not willing to get off of unemployment and go get them because they are making $300, $40 a week of unemployment. -- $400 a week off of unemployment. and guest: you have a great attitude, a great work ethic.

we are fortunate in texas to be a state with lower taxes, balanced regulations, and an energy industry driving the need for new jobs. some that have lost their jobs like, coal mining, where this government has put a target on their back, they have put -- .ad it tougher go of this in the regions that have not recovered, we have to do more to cannotjobs, but we also continue to spend unemployment forever because the longer you are out of the workforce the tougher it is to get back in. that is why our focus ought to be not to keep you on unemployment, but to get you into the job. host: and on our democrat line, chris in georgia. caller: hello.

guest: hi, chris. how are you doing? have a question about budgetary spending. i am curious, a few months ago you said something about tackling the biggest budget problems. with you been a member of the economic committee, what is the percentage, the highest that is in the budget that we spend money on? guest: well, our biggest what some call entitlements because you are in them, and you are entitled to them. social security, our retirement program, safety net for seniors, care for health seniors, medicaid, help for the very poor, including nursing homes. we have the interest on our debt in other mandatory programs, but social security, the care, and

medicaid would be a safe bet for our biggest budget challenges. on twitter -- why didn't the budget deal tackle the corporate tax loopholes? guest: i am glad he did not because it would have been a mistake. we are doing a major rewrite of the tax code. we spent one half years to do that. closed to cut and corporate loopholes, not to spend more, but to lower taxes for everybody to read cherry picking a few, spending it away wrath -- everybody read rather than cherry picking a few and spending it away, we need a flat tax code. host: we have heard about tax reform. will that be a reality? guest: i hope so because the tax

code is so complex, costly, that it is unfair. we do not compete well. what we have done in the ways and means committee in a bipartisan way is really tackle the biggest challenges of our tax code word -- tax code. thisman camp has worked on rewrite. we are very close to a complete draft, the first one since president reagan did it, to start the process of have a national discussion on fixing the broken code. i am ready to do it tomorrow, but we have issues we have to work through before that happens. host: what do you think of the chances of that draft being put out there for debate on the floor in 2014? see it. would love to i do not know the timing of all of this, but i would love to see that discussion. we have gone through thousands of special provisions asking simple questions -- is that

provision for some more rateswth than lowering for everyone? are, many are not. i would love to have that debate. anti-gay would jumpstart our economy. host: part -- i think it would jumpstart our economy. host: karo. michigan. we go to arlington every december, and washington is enormous. i cannot believe the buildings and the people. the afternoone in with lanes and lanes of traffic leaving town. government is enormous. tell me where i am wrong -- i thek we are not getting information we need. the enemy within, the media, is not telling us what is going on. they blame everything on bush.

what something -- something everyone fails to say is the last two years of bush, he did not have the senate, did not have the house. we do not talk about this. the enormous spending for all of these programs going on is totally out of control. there is no free lunch, but washington thinks there is. i know people on unemployment and they do not have any intention of finding another job because they have two years of freebies. i live in detroit, and i have lived here in -- four 76 years. what happens in washington is inng on -- is what went on detroit and we will end up the same way. guest: i am very fearful of the direction we are headed in the overspending that we are doing, and it is not just that, but the role in the of government in our daily lives. clearly, the policies we have going have hampered this

economic recovery, the weakest in more than 50 years. i think it has discouraged people from getting back to work . it is certainly discouraged our local businesses from hiring more workers. so, unless we want to stay the course as a country, which i do not think most americans -- certainly our communities, i live back home in texas, and i hear it every day about how discouraged they are. we have to give them hope in turning the economy around, tackling the challenges that face washington, getting our job done. brady, aresentative you guys going to come back and try to repeal obamacare for the 50th time? guest: i would be glad to try to repeal it for the 100th time. i think it is the wrong solution for this country. we have seen back home families that were picked out of their insurance, forced into the president's new health care law.

one worker, a single dad, raising a child with special needs, his premiums almost tripled. he does not know how he can afford it. one of our big pushes has been -- look, this thing needs to be optional. do not force people into a law they do not want to be part of. some people will use it. let them. for others, especially local businesses that would like to continue offering health care, we ought to make it as a first step option because it is not ready for prime time. you: politically, because voted for this budget, and several of your colleagues, joe barton, sam johnson, voted against it, will you face codexis and -- criticism back in your district? you do on almost

every bill, but most of the criticism because -- comes because of the strategy. we work very well together. we are all headed in the same direction, but the difference is how do we get there -- what is the best path? commentsohn boehner's focus the group saying our goals are the same, let's not fight over the strategy. until we unite on those targets, we will not be as effective as we should be. sees aas delegation difference chatterjee on how to get there, we are very close, on then -- difference trajectory on how to get there, but we are very close, very conservative. host: what you think about your colleague challenging? guest: it was a surprise. we did not know steve was looking at that race, and keeping a secret stuff. we have a primary that is very

quick. early voting starts in mid february. i think this'll be a short, intense primary. i have loved working with the senator. he is a conservative, does a great job. they have to weigh out what the differences are and how he can represent our state better. he is a short time. host: when is the actual primary? guest: march 1, early voting for two weeks ahead of that. after the holidays, not much time. host: have you endorsed either? guest: i have not. i let people decide. he ted cruz doing? guest: he is making a huge impact in this country. he won overwhelmingly in texas, and he is a tireless conservative and a very articulate advocate.

to see rickyou like perry run for president again? guest: that is his call. he took that first race, where the right place for those primaries. i think he has learned a lot from that. home, our you, back economy is doing very well. his policies have been hugely instrumental, lowering taxes, a great business climate, balanced regulations, a can't-do stay -- i think the country should look at that model and the role he can-do date, and i think the country should look at that model and the role he played. host: kevin, you are on "washington journal."

caller: i have been in a few businesses, and it is difficult to hire anyone anymore because i cannot do the paperwork and i am afraid of the paperwork and doing something wrong. you are like the roman empire, where if we are not part of you, we will lose. you will see us as a lesser human being and that you have to help us, but the truth is you feed off of us. when you get rid of us, you guys are going, just like the romans. thank you. just tell you the way i work in my district i am hired every two years to work for the people in my district. it is not my job. it belongs to them. i am interviewing again to work for them for the next two years. i know i work for. i live back home. i commute to work and stay close to those that i work for.

meetings aown hall year and if people disagree, they have a chance to tell me to my face their views. i hope we never go down the road you just painted. our strength is not in washington. the solutions are not here. they are back home. host: mike. arkansas. independent line. go ahead with your question for representative kevin brady. caller: hello? host: we are listening. caller: there is some feedback, noise in the background, and i will make this statement. host: sir, we are listening. go ahead. caller: what is your feeling about raising the minimum wage? guest: i do not think it is a smart idea and you will lose a lot of local jobs.

when you for small businesses to pay five dollars more for every worker when they can barely make ends meet as it is, you will see fewer jobs. host: follow-up? caller: yes. my neighbor is a staunch republican. posterl has the romney in his front yard. plant.ges a dairy he came home and we were talking about taxes, and he said he was tired about his money feeding lazy people that will not get a job, and he said even his employees are on food stamps. said what, and he said they are on food stamps, and i said why don't you raise their salaries and he said it was a corporate-level decision. your company is doing very well in the stock market, as is mcdonald's, etc., but the

problem is our tax money is going to pay your employees you're stingye -- employer will not pay them a wage they can live on. you are against food stamps and raising the minimum wage, why are you allowing tax money to subsidize corporations that will not pay their employees that will not -- enough money to live on so that they are on food stamps. wish, andell you, i maybe you have run a small business for yourself, but you ought to put yourself in the shoes of these small business money, spentisk years, decades, building their business -- every day is a fight, every month is a fight, and if they are lucky, they will make enough to give themselves some salary through the end of the year. that is the truth of most of our small businesses.

when the government says we will decide for you what you want to pay your workers regardless of whether you can afford it -- we're not going to give you more money, not send you more customers, you will simply pay your workers more. the consequences are local businesses cut hours, cut jobs, they do not hire more workers, as, again, i think our goal a government should not be to raise the salary. it ought to be to get people off of the minimum wage into a job they can raise a family on. host: kevin brady, do you foresee next year any proposals to change medicare, medicaid, and social security? guest: no, and i wish i could say yes because i do not think enough lawmakers are serious about solving and saving those programs. i think we have an opportunity, though, this week.

both the house and senate, republicans and democrats, the ways and means committee and the finance committee took up a weposal to solve the way reimburse local doctors in medicare, and that is critical because more and more seniors need health care, fewer and fewer dollars can -- doctors can see them. we're getting closer to a permanent solution both parties can agree on. i say that because we cannot really save medicare for the first solve,il we in a good way, how we pay our doctors to see our seniors. we are seeing real progress, and i anticipate that permanent solution next year. middletown, new jersey, democrats find. caller: good morning, gentlemen. guest: good morning. congressman brady, i agree with you. the affordable health care act

solution. perfect it is complicated, and it was taken right out of the heritage foundation playbook, based on fair market, and giving an opportunity for health insurance business.to have more there is a very simple solution, and not only would it be better for the people of this nation who go bankrupt because they cannot afford health care -- we have the best health care in the world, except we cannot afford it -- how about medicare for all? that would broaden the pool, bring down the cost because we would have healthy, young people in the program. solution, done. social security, there is an easy solution, not very .omplicated, raise the cap i am in a situation where i would be paying more money, but i would be glad to so that old

people do not have to live on the street, and young people like my daughter would not have to worry about supporting elderly parents. that would be great for the economy, two, and, there is a lot more. guest: i wish it were that simple. i appreciate your concern about medicare and social security because we need more of that in the country, but a couple of thoughts -- medicare, its main trust fund is going bankrupt in 12 years. trying to make that problem bigger without addressing the real problems of it will crater that program. medicare for all is a really bad solution for most families. secondly, social security, this country had to borrow $150 billion last year from investors around the world, from china, the federal reserve, just to pay benefits. you can raise the cap all you want, but he will have very little impact on social security. i am on the social security

subcommittee. i think that only extends the life about six years. that is not the solution either. i know the heritage playbook on health care. the affordable care act is not it by any stretch. host: the last call for representative brady comes from charles in charlotte, north carolina, a republican. caller: i'm a fan of yours. i like your common sense, and thank you for your service. guest: thank you. caller: the question i have is when the government screws up, when the fbi goes after certain groups, you have the benghazi issue, the affordable care act website issues, none of it works, and all you hear is we are sorry, we will spend more money, we will make improvements, and at some point we will be fine and nobody gets fired. on the flipside, i had the opportunity to talk to some of

the leaders in health care and banking in charlotte, here, and they tell me the regulations -- if they miss a regulation with they do something wrong, there is no "i am sorry, i am trying to do better." fines.ve it is just attacking business. i see this lawsuit the justice department and filing against joes, and if the outcome of publications does not come out racially as to who is applied -- does not comens out racially as who is applied, they are being fined. downadministration will go as the most anti-business in the history of this country. guest: i agree with your points. the most frustrating part is government is never held accountable, but if you make a

mistake in paying your taxes, the irs is absolutely unforgiving. you make a mistake, ms. your payroll taxes -- ms. your theyll taxes, following gag lines, government -- vague guidelines, the government is unforgiving. we try to hold every white house accountable, do it with legislation, but in any divided the dysfunction keeps us, i think, from holding every white house accountable. host: kevin brady, let's finish where we started -- why did you vote in support of the budget agreement yesterday? guest: i thought it was important not to distract the american public from the rollout of the affordable care act, the secondly,is doing, redesigning the sequester,

restoring military strength was radical. it keeps 92% of the sequester in deficit. cuts the those are conservative principles i can support. brady, member of the ways and means committee where he chairs the health subcommittee, thank you for being on "washington journal." guest: thank you. host: we will continue this conversation with representative gwen moore, democrat of wisconsin. ♪

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of the budget committee, a member of the financial services committee. i did you vote yesterday on the budget deal -- how did you vote yesterday on the budget deal? guest: i voted yes. host: why? guest: i think many of my colleagues have learned a lesson about digging in, not wanting to compromise. we saw the government shutdown, harm done to our country, our constituents, be they democrats or republicans, they are our constituents, and i think many of us learned a lesson about being dug in ideologically and democracy calls for, and that is finding common ground. i do want to laud representative paul ryan and senator murray because they really did some hard work coming to this deal and really standing up to their various conferences because there is much to be criticized

about the deal. host: walking into the vote, had you made up your mind, or could you have switched your vote at the last minute? guest: i had pretty much made up my mind. i was inspired to do so, on a plane coming from south africa to memorialize president nelson mandela, and started getting scant reports, given the limited wi-fi availability of this 20- 20-hour ride in ch brothers and all -oriented entities were coming out of -- against the deal, and that was something to look at, and without even peeling back the layers, they decided it was not good, so i

saw paul ryan being defensive about it, and then told me right away that my colleague from wisconsin was taking some of the blows and this is worth looking into. left, 32 democrat voted against the bill, including colleagues like karen bass, judy chu, sander levin, ranking number of the ways and ,eans committee, roll grijalva how much swaying was done inside of the democratic party? guest: actually, there was no within on the part of the progressive caucus, but i had a talk with keith ellison, and i do not vote them for voting against the deal. there were no benefits for extended unemployment benefits. there are over one million people that are going to lose

starting december 31, and it is going to wreak havoc .n our economy these people will not have, not only money to sustain themselves, but they will not have money to put back into the economy. , ihave extended unemployment cannot count the number of times, since the 1960's, without any offset. is cruel, and at christmas toe, very scrooge-like not have done this, and again, we are dinging federal employees once again. buyers will find the federal pension contribution -- new hires will find the federal pension contribution taken away from them. i hope that we will not suffer

in our ability to recruit the kind of talented staff that both democrats and republicans enjoyed in federal government. recall,e out there will when we had natural disasters, social security benefits being determined, i think people, during some of our major crises have seen the importance of competent government. for those people who believe government has no role in their lives, they were very surprised during the shutdown the extent to which federal government plays an important role in our lifestyle and our safety in the united states. moore, ifesentative the senate does not pass what the house passed last night, what happens? what is the next step? does it go back to the budget committee, the house?

what if the senate and unemployment extension -- adds unemployment extension? guest: i guess it will be called back. we will have a couple of more weeks to work. i certainly brought the new year chagrin of mye daughter who was born on january 1, and she said it was the first time i had not been there on her birthday, and i would be happy to return for such a vote. to calls, ande go the numbers will be on the screen if you want to continue to participate in the conversation, there are news --orts that on that trip for back from south africa, you sat next to senator ted cruz of texas. is that true?

guest: it is only half true. i sat with him 20 hours to south so it was 40ack, hours. we even slept, there, together, side-by-side. he is a been the -- he has a very friendly person, and we had discussions about very many things, school choice, school vouchers. of course, i held from wisconsin, aware that -- where that program emanated and we talked about health care, and, of course, our disagreements very predicable, candid, blunt and many joined the discussion. disappointed, a little bit, with just how, as one of my colleagues observed during the

discussion, that no matter how much sense you make, when people have their ideological's pants -- ideological stance, they will not be persuaded. we had good conversations about his family, his kids, and my kids. he is a pleasant person, and i can see why people might have voted for him. host: does a conversation like that, time spent like that, but that at some point lead to cooperation up there? these photoshink are very important for building these kinds of relationships. at the end of the trip he asked me if i was ready to convert to being a republican, and i said they would have to change a lot for me to do that. .ost: gwen moore is our guest the first call for her comes from joe who is a democrat in the bronx. caller: good morning, peter. ms. gwen moore, how are you?

guest: i am doing great. whenever i call i usually say i am joe the counselor from the bronx, not joe the plumber, because i am. community,ocial work just like president obama, so i deal with helping people that are less fortunate, so to speak. what i really wanted to do was talk to the cumbersome and that -- congressman that was before you, but i did not get the opportunity, so i had to wait, but one of the things i wanted but i will leave it alone as i'm just talking to you a little bit now, is when we look at the republicans when they talk about unemployment being not the way it is supposed 6%,e, it is supposed to be

health, it comes to these people are talking from both sides of their mouth. we need tobout what talk about his unemployment, everybody going back to work. they're going back to work is the keystone pipeline. the keystone pipeline is not going to help the people that need to work. that is just a few jobs for their friends that will give them money every two years, every four years, every six years. host: joe, what would you like to see done? caller: what i would like to see done, really, is to pass all of -- employment at the past the president has come up with. host: joe, thank you, sir. guest: you have made some good points -- everybody will not be second and -- sector

like the keystone pipeline. you make points like the jobs bill that the president together, that would spread the benefit across the country, and of course we've not been able to get the house to pick up that legislation at all. we have had over 40 votes to repeal the affordable care act, but we cannot get the jobs bill on the floor. so, i am glad that you raised that point. with regards to unemployment being at 16%, that would be catastrophic, more than a depression. where we are now, is as much as we can tolerate, and a threshold where we should be looking at extending unemployment benefits. not workingot because they are lazy bums they do not want to work. as a matter of fact, if i could speak for some republicans,

their argument is there is so much uncertainty in the economy, and people do not want to invest, people do not want to create new jobs, and if trillions of dollars sitting on the sideline. these are dollars that could, would, and ought to be spent to employ people. people are not unemployed because they want to be unemployed. we do not have a jobs package. itloyers are not doing because of uncertainty, we are in a recession. deserve, especially at this time of year, some decent treatment. it is interesting in this budget deal that we passed we were concerned about not driving fix and thehe doc benefits they receive at the higher end of the income spectrum, but for those unemployed, we are leaving them in the lurch. thank you for calling, joe.

this is peter john boehner talking about health care. i want to get your reaction. [video clip] >> we spent the last year trying to protect the american people from the consequences of this health care law, and next year we will continue to look for ways to protect the american people from what is happening out there, but as you have seen, the house has acted 50 times over the last couple of years to try to protect the american people. none of these bills have moved to the united states senate. veto threatsrew from the white house. elections have consequences. moore?epresentative guest: i noticed the speaker used protecting and consequences several times. protecting the american people from this health care law? the laughnot pass

test. the affordable care act, like it or not, with all of the mess, and the horrific rollout and i want to know what happened that it is so awful, but even given that, you find that millions of people are flocking to the website. found out they are eligible for medicaid, they have four timese have had the number of people in november that signed up compared to october. we have 40 million people. this proves to me it is a commodity that people need. take about it, the number one cause of bankruptcy in this country was people's health care. think about it -- starting in 2014, with those 17 million children that cannot be denied health care is a week -- preconditioning -- pre-existing

conditions. this was preventing -- this was increasing the mortality rate. i know women that have shown up in the emergency room with fourth stage breast cancer because they did not have a job, and not have health insurance, and either had no insurance or these horrific plans with $1500 deductibles, so they waited until they were too sick to be helped. has to stop. this is a commodity that is not only going to save money, but lives. he is protecting us from that? you, mr. speaker, and elections do have consequences. i tell you, if by some miracle democrats kept hold of the united states senate, and we see that united states senate go, and the white house go, we will not only see the affordable care , even, but republicans

with this deal, are lamenting over the fact that they have not been able to decrease benefits for social security than -- recipients, and they have not been able to decrease benefits for medicare recipients. you will see medicare and social security, under the ax along with food stamps and all of the other so-called mandatory entitlement programs. this is the heartthrob of the republican party and their billionaire supporters -- to downsize or eliminate these programs. him on that,with he elections have consequences, and thank god we were able to reelect president obama and keep the united states senate. politically, health care has not been good to the democrats, has it? is it damaging? guest: well, of course, the

rollout -- it is more than an embarrassment. the millions of dollars that on the contractors, i wish i had that contract. i could not have been worse. despite that, that has not discouraged 40 million people from looking at it. i cannot believe they are all iti-obama folks that visited or they are people that really need health care, and for the first time in their lives they will not be facing bankruptcy. is in the taste, and people are tasting this. gwen moore, from twitter -- what are you telling the unemployed in your district after voting not to extend benefits? vote not to not

extend benefits. i voted to get $63 billion in sequester really for my constituents. i care very deeply about the unemployed. i care about the children that have lost slots, the head start children, the educational programs that have been defunded as a result of the sequester -- many, many people have suffered. there will be $63 billion in relief from the sequester, and $63 billion is a big chunk of change that has harmed people across the economic spectrum, including unemployed people because it is unemployed people that have had a double hit. the of kids in head start, for example, and they are unemployed -- they have kids in head start, for example, and they are unemployed. i appreciate that the unemployed are going to suffer in the short

term, but we can come back in january, before december 31, and backfill. chairman ryan left the door open in a comment that he made to the press yesterday that impressed me, saying he was willing to talk about it. ifis willing to look at it people bring him a deal. i hope those back channels will continue to work through this break. the wife or the call. -- thank you for the call. host: the last time you are on, you talked about flying back to wisconsin with paul ryan. you do a lot of work on airplanes. guest: the big difference that i see in paul ryan as opposed to some of his other colleagues is the while he has been fed ideology of the far right, he also can think, and sometimes you can break through with the person that actually thinks things through instead of

forming and ossified, -- taking an ideological stance. i am relying on that right now. andy is in pennsylvania. caller: hello, representative. obama calling him the education president when he and with allfice, of the education -- the quality of education, the cost of the universities for drupal in -- quadrupling across the nation, and education in the united 25tes dropping to number across everywhere across the