didn't listen. we are still to this day trying to shift u.s. policy to focus on diplomacy and less on war. namey did you change your to medea? >> that was a long time ago. i was 18 years old. i went to college. i started reading the greek myths. every month i would ask my friends to call me something different. my name was susan and i like the name medea. she was a powerful woman. i thought, aha. i will recover that name. i think it is convenient. >> we have watched you for years on this network at hearings. what you do at hearings? >> well, first the issue is getting into the hearings. i lived in san francisco. i lived in washington, d.c. for years ago. i never knew hearings were public.

i do not think a lot of people know the hearings are public. the first is, how do get into them? most of the time it is a question of standing in line. i did a of standing in line. i was really exciting that there were such a thing as c-span that lets as here these hearings. what is exciting is going to these hearings. many come to washington and get into one of those hearings. it gives you tremendous insight into how our government works and how it does not work. >> let's go back to 2007. we will run a tape showing what your organization does and get you to tell us why and how. here is 2007. [video clip] >> i think no one really knows what the duration of the

presence would be. i suspect the contracts operate under the coalition provisional order 17 that says the non-iraqi contractors are immune from legal processes if there accept pursuant to the terms and conditions of their contract. >> my upbringing tells me that sexual activity outside the bonds of marriage between a man and a woman is immoral. that is what i was taught. that is what i believe. >> the hearing is adjourned. [gavel] >> thou shall not kill. thou shall not kill. >> clear the room. we have had enough of this. clear the room. clear the room. clear the room.

[gavel] that is enough of this. i have tolerated all i can. i stopped it before you were ever born. get out of this place. let's go. >> what did you see? were you there? >> yes, i was there. it is a fact that we are really anguished over what our government has been doing. we go to the region and we go to iraq and afghanistan and iran. we go to egypt, gaza, and we see things for ourselves. we come back and see our government is in a different reality. the american people thought saddam hussein was responsible for the attacks at the world trade center. we went there and we saw people

who said there were no weapons of mass destruction. there is no reason to go to war. we try to get into the halls of our government and into their offices. we are trying to tell them we should not go to war against a country that has not attacked us. we tried to go to other venues. some of those venues are congressional hearings. it is one of the few places where we can see our elected officials and get our message across. we get arrested all the time at these hearings. it is not fun. we do not take that lightly. i got arrested in a hearing of a judiciary committee for going like this -- for holding up a peace sign. we do not do this because we like to. do this because we fill obligated as u.s. citizens. >> how many were in the room? >> about 25 people.

>> who are they? your friends? >> many of them are people who have gone on these trips with us to these places and come back with this sense of obligation. others are people we have gone out and talk to over the years and empowered them to make their voices heard. many of them come from places around the country where they go into their congressional offices regularly and try to have meetings and do sittings in the offices. they sometimes get arrested in the congressional offices. they are people who feel as passionate as i do that the government has been doing a lot of bad things that have led to the deaths of many innocent people. we mourn the lives of everyone who was killed on 9/11. we mourn the lives of innocent people in other countries who have been killed as a result of

our actions post-9/11. >> how much in advance do you plan these? >> sometimes we plan than the evening before. often times we do not know what are the hearings that are coming up. sometimes you get advanced notice and we will have a couple of days to plan. they are pretty spontaneous. >> let's look at a hearing on september 18, 2002. this is the secretary of defense. [video clip] >> inspection, not war! inspection, not war! inspection, not war! >> thank you, ladies. mr. secretary, we will put them down as undecided.

[laughter] [applause] >> mr. chairman, as i listened to those comments, it struck me what a wonderful thing free speech is. of course, it is not the united states are the nations, but iraq that threw the inspectors out. they threw them out and rejected 16 resolutions of the united nations and its stipulations, but of course people like that are not able to go into iraq and make demonstrations like that because they do not have free speech. >> i'm really glad you found that clip. that was the first hearing i ever went to post it was in san francisco with my colleague who flew in from texas.

it was two of us at the time. that was a hearing where he was making the justification for attacking iraq. we had just got back from iraq. the inspectors were not kicked out. they were there. they said there were no weapons of destruction. we were fair years to come back and hear the lies that were being given. what we did not hear the clip which were questions, how much money would they make from this work? how many u.s. soldiers would be killed in this war? i would like those questions answered now. everyone laughed in the room. it was like we were fools, we were freaks. we were right. many people suffered. my heart breaks for the families for the american soldiers that were killed in that war. my heart breaks for the iraqi

people. it is a country with a lot of educated people despite sanctions. yes, saddam hussein was a dictator, but they had free education. iraq is a former shadow of itself now. i feel the american people need to know what state iraq is in and what we did to that country. >> what auspices were you under when you went to iraq? how did you get in? >> we were a group of women. we put out a call to people around the country saying, who would like to go? we did not know if we would get in or if the u.s. would bomb at the time. it was a scary time to go. we got a group of about 11 or 12

of us. we flew into jordan. we do not know if we would get into iraq. we drove across the desert. i'm jewish. we got to the border and a border guard took my passport and said, benjamin, is that jewish? i started shaking like a leaf. i thought, uh-oh. i'm in trouble. the tensions between iraq and israel were very high. a half hour i was waiting and waiting and he came back huffing and puffing and said, i brought my notebook. i have been studying hebrew. i was wondering if you could correct my grammar. that was the border guard. i asked, why are you standing here? when we were at war with iran, i studied farsi. now that we are at war with

israel, i'm studying hebrew. we should learn to communicate with enemies. at was the first iraqi i met. we got into baghdad and we met a woman. she said, i love black women poets. who is your favorite? she started telling me hers. it is an educated country with wonderful people. >> how many on that first trip? >> 12. >> who paid? >> everyone paid for themself. we had people from the jewish community. everyone pays their own expenses on the entire trip. >> where did you get the name "codepink" and why? >> we were on a retreat and we took a break.

we were joking about yellow lines and red. we do not know what we were supposed to do if the alert change from one to another. without we need another code alert. that is how we came up with it. >> these hearing rooms, they see with pink. what did they say to you when you come into the room? >> the guards see us and they speak into their walkie-talkies, codepink is here. it is kind of silly, but they know us and that we are committed to peace. the thing we do is maybe hold up a little sign. they try sometimes to stop us from getting into hearings.

just recently i was in the judiciaries and they try to stop the line. i said, you can't do this. this is a public hearing. when they let me in, they tried to put me in the back room. i said, you cannot do this. this is the united states of america. we had to fight to get our way into the room and often times we get pulled out by doing something as simple as holding up a sign that says, stop funding war, or something like that. >> here is 2004. may 7. secretary of defense again. [video clip] >> within the constraints imposed upon us, i have a few additional orders.

>> fire, rumsfeld! fire, rumsfeld! fire, rumsfeld!

[gavel] >> the committee will resume its hearing, mr. secretary. first, beyond the abuse of -- >> what do you think the impact of that is? >> i think the impact is that it shows people who are watching c- span either in the u.s. or around the world that there are americans who are very passionate about these issues and do not like the government invading other countries that we should not in. at that point we were really trying to get out -- and the u.s. was torturing prisoners. this was before the scandal broke. we had been to iraq. we had talked to people who had been tortured. we had talked to women who are crying and telling us what happened to their sons. we came back to the united

states trying to meet with our congress people and people in the white house and in the pentagon and saying, how could we be doing this? the doors slam on us all the time. this is the one time we get our voices out there. some people see us and say, those stupid women and all bc there are men with us. they pretty see it. people overseas are watching c- span and are seeing that people are willing to speak out and risk arrest doing it. >> when did you get this political feeling in july? >> growing up during the days of the vietnam war. i was a high school student. my sister is two years older than me. her boyfriend was drafted and went off to war. he was a lovely young man before he was taken off to vietnam. a couple of months after, he sent her back a present.

it was an ear of a viet cong and it was a souvenir for her to put around her neck oh stop i was horrified that this nice young men had turned into what i considered at that time a monster. to think that something like the human ear is something that you would wear around your neck. that change me for life. it really made me feel like we have to do everything we can to stop killing each other. we have to avoid wars that are avoidable like the war in vietnam. we have to speak out on behalf of looking for other ways, non-- violent ways, to resolve conflict. >> what did your parents do? >> they were your typical, suburban family. mostly republican.

they said, hey, that is the way things are. >> what kind of business were they in? >> my father was in real estate. >> and mom? >> a stay-at-home mom. >> can you remember the first time that you protested? >> before i protested, i do remember that one of the things we would do as a family every year was when it was hanukkah time and christmas time is to look at the needy families and i remember going with my dad to the store to buy presents for people. you do not give away old stuff. you buy the stuff that you really want and give it to other people. in terms of protest, i formed a peace group in my school. we learned protest songs and we sang them.

we organized protests at the high school. >> have a diverse time you organized in a professional way. what was the first that you joined or lead? >> i decided i wanted to dedicate my life to people who were poor. i thought if i went to school and studied nutrition, i could do that kind of positive work. i did that and i got a degree in public health nutrition. i went to africa and worked in some of the poorest villages with people who are really struggling to feed their families. the company nestlé was selling powdered milk to women who did not have enough money to buy the milk. children were literally dying in my arms because of the false advertising of a company like

nestlé. i got involved in the international campaign and it became the first campaign that successfully got international code of conduct against companies that were producing baby formula to stop them from doing such things as false advertising in poor places like africa. >> nestlé? >> the swiss company. >> it was was your first protest against a non-american company. >> they would send people into the build is just as doctors and nurses when they were not. it was a code of conduct of stuff they were not allowed to do that anymore. that affected a number of corporations. >> we have watched you for a

number of years on c-span when we see the hearings. how much of the analyzed where we are in the room? the science and some of them are so precise that you seem to know exactly where the cameras will be. >> we did for a while try to position ourselves where we thought the cameras were. we figured it out. we had people who stay at home and watch c-span and say, move a little to the left or move a little to the right. what happens now is that the c- span camera seems to be just a on a close shot on the one person testifying and we do not get those opportunities very much anymore. >> you think we are manipulating the cameras? >> we feel that the cameras used to give more of a view of what was happening in a room. we thought that was important. we thought that was part of what a public hearing was. if they have a little button

that says, war, it would be nice to do a little span of the room. i do not see c-span doing that anymore. >> if you could speak with one of the directors in the room, what would you say? >> i would focus on go is not only testifying, but who is in the room? who cares about this issue? why might they be there? you have seen clips where we have gotten really rowdy. most of the time we are sitting there quietly. we might have a little sign. they might say that you can only hold the site as shoulder length see you are not blocking the view of anyone else. i think it is nice or c-span to look around the room and see who else is there. >> how do you know when you vocally protest in the room? >> a lot of the times we want to

hear what is happening in the room. if there are good questions and good answers, we might sit there quietly. if they do not ask good questions or the answers are terrible, we might be compelled to get up out of our seats. i go to hearings quite often. most of the time we are sitting there learning in those hearings. >> valerie was testifying. this was in '07. [video clip] >> i said the united states loyally as a covert operational officer for the central intelligence agency. i work on behalf a national security of our country and on behalf of the people of the united states until my name entry affiliation were exposed

in the national media july 14, 2003, after a leak by administration officials. how then can the president make the most important decision of all about the security of our country? i do feel passionately about that. you have to get the politics out of the policy process. >> i appreciate that. >> someone who is in the military was very upset about the invasion of iraq and came to spend some time in washington. she was very upset about george bush taking us into a war that she considered lies. she wanted to get her message across. >> the t-shirt said? >> impeach bush. she wrote on her shirt.

>> when did you learn you could not have any signs? >> somewhere online. >> how much do people on capitol hill, either the police or the staff of the committee or members, talk to you ever? >> we have meetings all the time with people on the hill. even today when i leave here, i will be going to meetings on the hill. we have been doing that regularly. we believe in and inside and outside policy. you do as much as you can inside talking to people and trying to get good pieces of legislation and senators and congressmen to sign onto good legislation. i think the system is quite broken. you also have to work outside the system. mobilize hundreds of thousands of people in the street. thousands and thousands of phone

calls and the petitions. the same thing is happening under president obama as well when we feel we have to do other kinds of outside action. >> you ran for office once? >> i did. i ran against senator feinstein on the green party ticket. >> why? >> i felt like she had become part of the machine. i felt it was an opportunity to get my voice out in a different venue. >> we will show a clip of senator feinstein. this is a fairly recent one. were you in the room for this? >> i don't know. >> are you usually the room for

these demonstrations? >> usually. >> do you meet as a group before you come to the hearing? >> sometimes we meet in line. it depends. >> what determines whether you will stay all night? how often will they allow you to do that? >> there are some things illegal that happens at all hearings. people pay for other people to stand in line for them. that is wrong. if you want to get into the hearing, you get there yourself. >> lobbyists. >> right. they pay other people to get there the night before and take up all the space. they do not allow us citizens to get into. sometimes we have to go there to be the line standers. we have to get there before they do.

>> on a normal day, how early do you get there? >> 7 a.m. when the building opens. >> this is the john brennan hearing for cia director. [video clip] >> i'm very pleased to be joined by my wife and -- >> in yemen, pakistan, somalia >> please remove that woman. please, if you could please expedite the removal. >> pakistan and yemen -- do your job. world peace depends on it.

>> please proceed. i'm going to ask that the room be cleared and that codepink not be permitted to come back in. you have done this five times and five times are enough. >> you had your hand with the sign. >> yes. i would like to explain the two women there. they had just returned. we had a group of 34 people who had gone to pakistan. we went to the tribal areas with the u.s. drones are killing so many people. one woman came from san francisco to washington, d.c. right after being in pakistan. she wanted to have the chance to

say that brennan is the mastermind of this program that is so inhumane. it is killing many innocent people and causing the u.s. to be seen as the enemy for millions of pakistanis. the second woman who got up and spoke was from indianapolis. she had also just got back. she was holding a list of names of children who had been killed with the drone strikes. we feel that we are the voice of conscience of the united states. we wanted to tell the people of pakistan that we do not agree with the drone program where our government plays the judge, jury, and executor. we are not even acknowledging what are doing that. the women that you saw and the others that went with us to pakistan, i think they should be getting a medal for having

spoken out against such an inhumane government program. >> what do you say -- and you know by now that people watching they say to you, they harbored osama bin laden. he was responsible for killing 3000 americans plus. this is the price that pakistan of harboring osama bin laden and all the other all qaeda people over there. >> it is a tribal area. no were near where he was. there are constant drone strikes that have been going on mostly since obama came into office. it is killing people that we are calling militant and the u.s. is defining that by any male of military age.

that is a lot a people. we are killing families. we met with these families. they tell us there is no one in their family that has to do with al qaeda or the taliban. they also tell us that the drones are circling in the villages, day and night. children are afraid to go to sleep and afraid to go to school. you are terrorizing an entire population. that is called collective punishment. that is not right. >> did he deserve it? why would he want to kill innocent children? >> you can see that we have been protesting under george bush and now we are protesting under barack obama. we feel he did not deserve the nobel peace prize. he is shrouded in secrecy with this drone program. it is so anti-democratic. we are not allowed to see the

memos that allow these drones. it is conducted by the cia. it is not a military organization. it is a civilian organization. it should not be in the hands of the cia. they come up with every tuesday in the white house -- they have given the cia the right for strikes for suspicious behavior. you have drone pilots pressing a button and killing people 8000 miles away that they think are suspicious. >> did you go? >> yes. we met with people who came in to talk to us about what happened to them and to tell us their stories about how they lost their sons and daughters and their wives and their

husbands. we took a caravan and try to get up in the tribal areas. we had more meetings of people from the region. we had a rally. we had been told by our government that the taliban would kill us and we should not go into that area. when we got up there, people were waiting for us, thousands of people. we went out onto a stage and we heard them yelling, welcome, welcome. we want peace. we are the first americans may have seen in 10 years. we are the only americans they have been saying that your children are precious as our children. we do not want to kill your children. we did more for the positive image of the united states than our government has been giving. the people were so happy to see americans who cared about their lives. >> back in 2007, this is another

hearing. general petraeus is testifying. do you remember this hearing? >> probably. >> how many hearings do you think you have been in the room over the last 10 years? >> oh, probably about 100. >> why did you move to washington four years ago? >> so i could be here where our government is making these decisions. at that when obama came in, we would have a chance to end the wars and not getting into drone wars in such a big way. i want to have more influence. >> did you vote for president obama? >> i voted for the green party candidate. [video clip] >> all americans should be proud of their sons and daughters serving in iraq today. thank you.

[indiscernible shouting] >> please remove them. >> no! no. >> throughout the remaining of this hearing you will be

prosecuted in the district of columbia and will prosecute them under the law. >> who is that woman they were pulling out? >> she had never been in a hearing in her life. she had loved ones in the military. many of the people who come to these hearings are people who have lost children in the iraq or afghanistan. they are very emotional. she was scared to death being pulled out. she has never been arrested in her life. most of these people have never been arrested in their lives. they're doing this because they have a deep, versatile connection to these issues. often times it is a family member. >> i will read this and ask about it.

to allow abusive language or engage in a disorderly or disruptive conduct that any plays upon the u.s. capitol grounds are within the capitol buildings, with intent to impede, dish outcome or disturb the orderly conduct of any session of congress or either house thereof, or the orderly conduct with any such to parade, demonstrate, or picking within any of the capitol buildings. were you prosecuted after that? >> yes. the women who are arrested. >> what happened? >> the often spend the night in jail and have to go before a judge. they are sometimes given a fine of community service. it depends on the individual cases and if they have a history. it is a lot of expense for people to keep coming back.

>> do you support them legally, your organization? >> there is a firm that gives them pro bono help. >> have you been in jail? >> many times. we do not like going to jails. i do not think we should go to jail for this. i think we should be escorted out of the hearing and just be told we cannot be going back in. that would be punishment enough. >> what is your reaction when you see the chairman of the committee reacting the way they do, both conservatives and liberals? >> sometimes they are very nice. there are many times we are just sitting there with our signs. sometimes they will say, can you lower your signs? you're obstructing the view. that is what happens in most of the hearings. >> do they ever invite you to

testify? >> i have testified only once. most of the time they do not invite us to testify. most of the time i must say i do not think they have good witnesses testifying on these issues. on the drones, they have only had one public hearing on that. that was recently. i do not know if i can ask you a question, but do you think it is appropriate waiting from a drone victim at a hearing? >> we would be glad to have anyone like that on any of our shows so they can explain that. we do not tell congress how to do their business. >> we wanted to get people to tell their stories, but we could not get visas for them. you get a very small range of messages out there.

they do not allow people like myself to testify. they do not allow victims themselves to testify. at the hearings that i went to, the drones the first one they had, i could not believe the narrow range of witnesses arranged. i'm very disappointed on how most of these public hearings are conducted. >> condoleezza rice testified in 2007. here is a minute of what happened in that hearing. [video clip] >> that man needs to be removed without delay. the woman across the aisle. >> yes, sir. >> yes. >> it is a public hearing.

>> thank you, mr. chairman. madame secretary -- >> what did the policeman say to you when they came to get you? >> the capitol police are very nice. in the beginning when we started, there was a lot of friction. they thought they were dangerous. now they understand. they are extremely professional and nice to us. i think they appreciate that there are people like us who are so passionate about these issues that we go to these hearings and that we are sometimes willing to risk the risks. i must amend them for being extremely professional and not hurting us.

they take us out. they respect us. >> here is more from this very same hearing. [video clip] >> war criminal! [woman yelling] >> you are hurting me. what are you doing? >> what do you notice?

she was off talking to someone else and not paying attention. >> first, the police behavior, they have been criticized for that. they do not do it like that anymore. they are much more gentle. >> didn't you go limp? >> it is a tactic. they have changed tactic. they try not to hurt us. >> what about the woman charged with the hands? >> this is a librarian. she is a wonderful and committed activist. very passionate about this issue. she also has people who have

been in the military in the family and has been very upset about the invasion of iraq and the needless killings of so many american soldiers. she went to the hearing of condoleezza rice. the pictures that came out of that, those pictures went around the world. to this day when we travel around the world, they say, aha. i remember that picture of the woman who went up with the bloody hand and said, the blood of the iraqi people are on your hands. they appreciate that. they liked that they went to jail for that. she is proud that she had a chance to speak up and say to someone like condoleezza rice something that we feel very passionately that the blood of the iraqi people are on your hands. >> people on a different thought process from you would say that you are --

>> i would say that i am passionate. i love that i can go. there are many things about the constitution that i love. i feel that it is my obligation as a patriotic american to do this kind of work. let's remember people like benjamin franklin. >> what is the global exchange? what is your relationship to that? >> it is another organization that i co-founded. we started it as a way to get americans involved in global issues. without that there are too few americans who have the opportunity to travel over seas. if you could help facilitate people to get other experiences like going to mexico or someplace like central america

or wherever, seeing how other people live and seeing things through the eyes of other people, it is an important opportunity. >> how many years did you live in cuba? >> i went to live in cuba and fell in love with a man from cuba. i love the music and that great spirit of the people and the culture. i had some bad run-ins with the government and ended up getting deported from cuba. >> what did you think of that? >> i thought it was a place that has a lot of positive things like the free healthcare system and education and the culture, and a lot of negative things like no free speech, no freedom of assembly, things that i treasure highly. when i try to use my free speech

in cuba, that is when i got myself in trouble. >> when did you marry and what did he do? >> kevin and i co-founded global exchange. one of the main things we did was to import this label of fair trade label that you see now on coffee and on tea and chocolate to try to improve labor conditions overseas and in the u.s. we worked on a very successful campaign to get companies like nike and adidas and reebok and abercrombie & fitch to increase the ways that they were using labor in places like vietnam, china. i have been very involved in those kinds of issues and i have kevin to improve conditions. >> did you marry?

>> we are separated. >> there is an article from another point of view. i want to get you to respond. "codepink are not pacifists. they are revolutionary." >> we would be speaking with british accents if we were not revolutionary. revolution means -- there are a lot of people who would agree with me that our system is not working well. we could use a little revolution. >> "they are not dedicated to peace. they are dedicated to turmoil." >> we have a two-party system that got us into wars that we should not have been in. they are using drone strikes.

>> "they are not feminists in the ordinary sense of the term." do you remember saying this? >> we get a lot of criticism. >> "women who have left in the kitchen for the street on behalf of peace. they are political operatives on a radical mission." >> we have a staff of about three people. i do not know how well organized we are. >> "they are marxists and communists." >> if you want to be codepink, you can do that. you do not have to wear pink.

as long as you believe that we need to live in a more peaceful way, you can join us in codepink. >> here is another example of how you protested in a group. this is in december 2012. you'll see what i am talking about. it is a press conference of wayne lapierre. [video clip] >> our children, we as a society, leave them utterly defenseless everyday. the monsters and the predators he he of the world know it and exploit it. that must change now. the truth is --

>> nra, stop killing our children. >> the media demonizes gun owners. >> reckless behavior coming from the nra. the nra has a blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. ban assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> let us face -- the media has

demonized lawful gun owners. >> where did you get that big voice for a little person? [laughter] >> the first person holding that sign up is my partner now. we should not have the kind of violence that is happening to our children and communities. we want to live in peace. >> why interrupt someone else's speech? >> nra is a big bully. they are powerful lobbyists that are congress has been afraid to stand up to. they put so much money into the system. they take out people who do not vote the way they want to. we think it is important to stand up to big bullies.

the >> when you look back on attack ask you have used, what works the best for you? we will be there from beginning to end. what works? what did you learn? >> mass movements -- >> you are known around the world as codepink. something has worked. >> this is only a tiny part of a a tactic trying to change policy. it can be assault weapons on the street. this is a tiny piece that inspires people to say, yes. i'm glad that someone is standing up to the bully. let's contact our congress person. or stopping the use of the drone program. we want someone to stand up to say we do not want the government deciding in secret to kill anyone they want.

>> i have a book in my hand called "drone warfare: killing by remote control" by medea benjamin. published by or books. so are they? >> a small publishing firm. >> do you feel like you are getting your voice heard? >> i'm going out and speaking at universities and churchgoers and community organizations, and my colleagues are doing that. right now there is a big movement that has been growing against this covert, lethal drone attack. we are getting the word out. >> do you feel like the government has infiltrated your group? >> i know the government has infiltrated. when we get documents long time

afterwards, we find out that the government has infiltrated our group. >> among you with the codepink t-shirts on? >> sometimes they do things that make us look the worst. sometimes there are government infiltrators. i do not really care. what we do is open and non- violent. i do not think the government should be using my taxpayer money to infiltrate my group. >> what do not like what your group does from time to time? >> sometimes the language gets negative. i go to a place of anger. sometimes we start singing.

that calms us down. i didn't like it when we get too angry. >> which national leader or official in the government has been the nicest to you all? >> well, there are congress people that has been a great ally to us. one that i admire tremendously is congresswoman barbara lee. >> what about someone you have attacked? >> senator dianne feinstein. we camp outside her home quite often to see her. she often stops and talks to us. i find that her and her staff are quite open to talking to us. we appreciate that.

>> medea benjamin. she runs codepink. >> thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> for a dvd copy of this program, call 1-877-662-7726. "q&a" programs are also available as c-span podcasts. >> i think radio is the longest and best form of media left. right now isoing hour long conversations c-span doesd on

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