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>> this week on the communicators, we focus on the future of television. this past year, we attended the cable show and spoke with espn resident john skipper and pat esser, the president of medication. that was followed by our -- the ofsident of communication -- cox communications. >> what is the biggest competition for espn? and five years -- five years from now, what do you see as the competition for espn? the lease of their own networks. right now, there is a lot of attention being played because one.ill go digital sports nbc lost the channel a couple of years ago. network.a conference

turner, cbs, plenty of competition and it is mostly a competition for programming rights, more talent for advertising dollars and .ltimately for eyeballs >> so where does it go from here? >> hi think you just get more public internet and more competitive. everybody understands that sports is the sweet spot of media. it is almost the only thing that you have to watch live. that has increased its value and i think everybody is seeing that now, whether they be social media types that are partnering with us to do tweeting about sports or tissue sports as we , other facebook networks, other cable networks, the league -- i think everybody understand that sports rights are quite valuable. >> when it comes to espn sports, is espn available on all

devices? >> yes, it is. the perfect question for me because answer is yes. it is available on all devices. it goes back to live, right? if you have to watch her game live, it is best to be in your -- watch your game live, it is best to be in your living room. if you are at a picnic while your baseball game is playing, you watch it on your tablet. if you are in a business meeting, you can look down at your smart phone and watch the game there. first, espn, espn2, espn all available 24/7 on any device you wanted to watch wherever you wanted to watch. >> what about the potential deal with verizon that espn has talked about where you could have live streaming but it wouldn't count against your cap?

>> that was really a nation and we are always looking to be on top of technology doing new things -- that was really an exploration. we are always looking to be on top of technology doing new things. we don't anticipate doing anything imminent. it is really making sure that our products are available to our fans. >> is there a price point where people will say, no, i don't want sports. i cannot afford to pay for sports anymore? ofwe are highly cognizant providing as much value to fans as possible. the new college football jim budget will be on espn. all of wimbledon is on espn. all of the u.s. open tennis will be in espn in 2015. championships, sunday

night baseball, monday night football, there is a lot of value and you can watch it on any device and you can check scores on your sports center at. -- app. we think it is appropriately priced and, generally, we serve fans and talk to our distributor partners and they think that it be an appropriate price as well. >> what you say about senator mccain who has talked about anàa la carte deal. is that, ofse course, highly respectful for what he has done in this country. but in this case, he is very wrong. à la carte will not lead to less expense for consumers. it will lead to more expense for consumers because systems will be forced to raise their prices per channel. hmo will go out of business.

it will not work. myth is another perpetuated in this discussion, that there is an awful lot of people out there not watching espn. last week, 100 13 million people logged on our listened to or watched espn. 38 or send the ball households get as -- get espn and watch espn. we are not a niche channel. panel, airport, dorm room, espn is on. it is the backdrop for what is happening around the country because there is a lot of sports. so we are not a niche channel. that is just wrong. about a better user interface, simpler, more intuitive. seenteresting way to products in a window pane that brings up content in a much more progressive way that our customers love. in december of this last year,

december 2012, we put inside of that a recommendation engine that drives what you consume as a customer. or can life -- you can like dislike. you can turn it off if you want it turned out. level, notindividual the household level, it knows what you like and it gathers and gives back to you a recommendation engine. video-on-e time, demand has 25 hours of storage. 40.oubled that to we are bringing to the market and ip video gateway, which is your device in your home that two terabytes of storage, and connected to the internet and access your television set that is important to you and relevant to you. customers want us to think of the second string in their life

. it presents you in three separate window panes your library, your live content, and your on-demand content. it is all centered around you, those that you like, those nine shows that are there live that are most relevant to you, those that are in your library content, dvr content, what you prefer. even in dod, it brings online a year's library and brings this to the top 10 immediately, you have it -- to the top. immediately, you have at your fingertips. want tooying it and i sit on a bigger screen so you can send it to your tv. when you set down the tablet, the next person in your household can pick it up and say i am pat and it immediately tells me what pat likes. and he goes on to the next user. . cool. -- very cool. >> all the cable companies have been losing market share for years. is peoplefferent now

have been talking of this for 10 years but it hasn't shown up in. when the numbers until 2010. people first at a talk him out in the first half of 2003. but in 2010, there was a watershed moment where the rate of subscription growth dropped below the development of household formation. it was weakness coming out of the great recession. but paid tv growth was even lower than that. --d tv since fiction gross pay-tv subscription growth was even lower than that. now, the pay-tv universes actually contracting in nominal terms. pay-tv that the whole subscriber is contracting at about 3/10 of one percent per year. that will probably continue to accelerate even if new household

formation continues to improve. problemave a genuine that you are no longer seeing unit growth. in fact, you are seeing unit decline. the cable companies share losses ae moderating that in streaking tie. so the numbers cannot get much better in the video subscriber side. >> is a people going wireless? >> the unit growth in the industry is cord cutting. i would suggest it is not the way that people think of cord cutting. i think the stereotype of the cord cutter is some thirtysomething master of the universe where they toured the computer and access to all the digital content in the world at their fingertips. the reality of the cord cutter is quite different. it is a lower bank -- a lower income americans who may not have a broadband subscription looking at the pay-tv's inscription as -- pay-tv

subscription as a necessary cost . and they are not looking so much at netflix envelope but switching back to regular tv because it is what they can afford. you are seeing an affordability crisis, not so much a technology revolution. >> when you think about the future of tv, what comes to mind? >> you used the phrase "the future of tv." i'm not sure that tv is the right phrasing more. it is the future of video consumption. i suspect that the old adage in technology is that everything changes less in five years and more intent than you would ever expect. five years from now, we will still be looking at a world that is dominated by the pay-tv

packages, our people have waited for years to see the pay-tv package blow apart. requires a that willful ignorance of the economics of ecosystems to think that that will happen anytime soon. it is starting to happen. you are storing to see euros and around the edges. not to some seismic change in the business model or technology, but through the leakage of people out of the system but at a very slow and accumulating rate. aer 10 years, that will be very large audience that programmers and the entertainment industry will have to address and have to serve. i think you're somewhere in that five-to-10 year range that well accelerate as the traditional bundle starts to come apart. >> you're watching "the communicators" on c-span. focus on communications, policy and leaders. this week, we are looking at the future of television. will hearinue, we

from brian roberts, chairman and ceo of comcast corporation followed by robert marcus, president and ceo of time warner cable. after that, our discussion with matt woke up to my president of the american cable association. >> you said that television will change, tv, video more in five years than in the last 50. what are some exhibits of that? >> we truly take on demand. so we started with some content on a tv set. we now have 40,000 shows on demand. we have 30 billion downloads of on-demand in 10 years. good two tablets and phones and we want to be able to integrate the web as well as tv, as well as ratings and twitter and facebook and social media. it is just exploding because of the technology options we have as consumers and different

generations of consumers have different passions. so we have to keep it really .imple we have to recognize that we are not all the same. so why do we just give one experience? of the a program guide show today versus one guide and give six guys. when just for kids. one just for sports. when just for movies. -- one just for kids. one just for sports. one just for movies. and parents know that for their 10-year-old, this is the shows that media recommends for 10- year-olds. do we say good luck for you and your kids to do that or do we have information available? if you want to take your xfinity home products, which is home security and energy management , you wantng control to do that with a click of your remote while you're watching tv right at the bottom, you can do that, too. you could do that just a few years ago. that is the kind of change we

are excited about. >> john mccain has talked again about the à la carte. >> i don't think that we would have the diversity of channels. i don't think there would be a c-span if people would literally just by one channel at a time. yet how many americans are aware of c-span and have come upon it? you buy a newspaper, you can't say i don't want the business section. a magazine, you read every article. --re are many businesses should we have more packaging flexibility and options for consumers? that is something that i think we are hopeful and we have done more packages than we have ever before. finally the question is is this the government's role in negotiation between content companies and distributors? my view this -- my view is that in business served

relationships not in government mandates. it is an important subject and one that we want to be a part of the dialogue. that has the areas been a focus of time, attention, financial resources for us is improving our navigation experience. for a long time, we have had a very broad video offering. hundreds of linear channels and thousands of hours of on-demand content. the challenge has been enabling customers to easily find that content. what we are demoing here in the show is the next generation navigation platform, which really is a quantum leap forward in terms of discovery of the great content that we have always offered. rich --uide uses very

value-added metadata that allow customers to learn more about the shows they are watching, and intuitive layout, a great search capability. what i think is pretty cool is that, based on the show you may be watching, and recommendations of other shows you may be interested in. so it is a commendation of those features that take your video experience to a different level than we have had before. and maybe as interesting is that the guide, the user interface, is hosted in a cloud. in addition, it is written in a programming lies -- programming lenders that are standard. in the past, a lot of the cable software was proprietary to the cable industry. that imposedn that on us was that development had to be done within the four walls of time or cable. time warnerby cable. by using standard language, we have development that is occurring outside of time warner cable.

there are really smart people out there developing cool apps that might make the experience of viewing video much better. i think that is very promising. the fact that it is hosted in a cloud is relevant in that we can make modifications, make updates and respond to consumer feedback overnight with the stroke of a couple of keys on a keyboard. in the past, we had to make a major software push to literally 17 million set-top boxes in our conference. not very flushable. so the new guide, the user interface really holds a lot of promise for what the video experience will be going forward. among other things we are demoing is the latest iteration of our twc tv apps. ago, weyear or so for originally ios platforms, ipads and iphones, which enables customers

to view now 300 linear channels of live video. and about 4000 hours of dod vodent -- of dod -- of content, which is pretty cool for the guestroom where you don't necessarily have a tv permanently installed. or if you are in the bathroom and you have an ipad installed there, it is very cool. launched several weeks ago is a subset of that content that i just described and is available to customers outside the home, on their iowa's devices. devices.ir ios this is really the subject of rights conversations we are having with programmers. and about a thousand hours of vod content that is available for customers on the go. what we are working on now is that the video below tory regime

goes back to the 1992 cable act. the world has changed quite a bit. so the level of competition we face is very different. the role that local broadcast ways in the overall social ecosystem has changed somewhat. and we think it is time to take a fresh look. while we don't have any specific proposals that we are advocating at this point in time, we think that it is time for a renewed look at the overall revelatory landscape as it relates to video. lastly the key, which is a fundamental principle, we think it is critical that any regulation or lack thereof keeps in mind that we need to be incentivized to continue to invest in the is a goal infrastructure that is the core of every product we deliver. worldare going to be a leader in the delivery of high- speed data, if we are going to

have the fastest speed, the most capable wi-fi access point, it is key that the revelatory environment in which we operate actually fosters, as opposed to inhibits, further investment in that plan. misconceptionmmon is that, once the plant is built, we are done and it is there for the taking. continual. be year after year after year, we have to continually augment the capacity of our plan so that it can handle ever-increasing amounts of traffic and an ever- increasing demand for more speed. >> so are you taking of a copper hence of rewrite of the telecom act? >> i think we definitely need to take a look at many elephants -- many elements of the telecom act. the ones that do survive are the ones that are reflective of the current environment, which are very different from what existed

at a time it was written. >> what is the future of video services for your company? >> that is a good question when you look at the many problems that occur in the marketplace today. as i said, our members businesses are focused ahead on broadband. the services we provide will be broadband-based. consumers will want to consume more video through broadband, through online services as we see now. in fact, we have many members who are engaging in allowing their customers to see more online viewing the other broadband plan. their broadband land. -- broadband plan. from our members perspective, we believe that the video marketplace is broken. you can look at any number of disputes that are occurring today in the news, whether it is cbs, time warner, or any other

programming disputes. i just saw something the other day where amc was claiming that several smaller cable operators were going to be dropped from some of their services because the smaller cable operators unnamed were not agreeing to the prices that amc demanded. and it comes down to consolidation and bundling. it really does. and consumers are starting to move more to online viewing because they say i don't have any choice as a cable or satellite subscriber and i want more choice. we as cable and broadband providers want to give consumers those choices. so we are trying to work with them and give them the choices that they want. but it is a huge issue, one that is not resolved. it is only getting worse. frankly, i can suspect in 1992 when congress first implemented the region's mission consent rules and i can draw a line from that through the beginning of to an hour we have

a situation that exists where these four major content companies across the country tie in bundles services. they pay exorbitant amounts for sports rights, for the right to provide sports that every consumer has to pay for whether they watch or not. our members tell us that only about 30% of their customers are real sports fans, real diehards that would pay for it. yet 70% could take it or leave it. they tell us. why do i have to take all this content? isis a problem that continuing. many have predicted the demise of the video industry, the way it is today with wholesale probably armorers, -- and wholesale programmers. there will only be one party to blame and that is those who own the content. "theis week on communicators," we are focusing on the future of television. international show in las vegas earlier this year, we

caught up with joseph taylor, ceo and chairman of panasonic. we also spoke with david steele, the executive vice president of samsung. those two interviews are next. your tv is the latest innovation. content thetheir way they want it when they wanted. they want to be able to communicate with each other. they want to use twitter. they want to see you too. they want to shop. -- they want to see youtube. they want to shop. we use facial recognition and voice recognition. you walk into a room and say my tv and immediately the screen shows your homepage. it really is the coolest thing. >> is it on the market? >> it will be this spring. four k. what does that mean? >> it is four times the

resolution of what you have on your ac tv at home. it has the same qualities as digital cinemas that you have been visiting around the world. and you go see a movie, that is 4 k resolution. we can bring that to your home. it is another technology for displays. .o we had crts for any years those were the big old boxes. then the next one was plasma, led, lcd. -- will be ole db ed. it is literally paperthin. you'll have to go to our booth and see it. we use phosphorous rather than semiconductors as an acting agent. so it is much greener. than any otherr in the market. >> what happened to 3-d?

was all theon richer last year. >> it is still developing. -- 3-d television was all the rage last year. >> it is still developing. as 4 k develops, i think the glassesless -- that doesn't even sound right. tv without glasses will be more imminent. tv means whatof it has meant the last two years, which is getting bigger. and it used to be that we would say that 40 inch was the home. now we see the top of the market is 60 and 10 above an. inch and high0 definition tv.

consumers have wanted the scale of tv and entertainment. ,vs used to be separate unconnected devices with an antenna or a cable connection. now increasingly they are internet-connected. that means the tv becomes a connected part of the home. access to all of your video services through apps. access to other content to devices in your home. so you can link your tv to your smartphone or your tablet and social media. yourt back watching on couch, you can get your social media on your tv. certainly in the next few years, we will see big growth in smart television. >> a lot of tough though about tablets and wireless and tv

everywhere. how does samson fit in that picture? >> -- samsung fit in that picture? television, computers, appliances, one area that we are investing a lot in is multiscreen connectivity. you are on your couch watching tv, but you are also texting on your phone or also looking at the internet on your tablet emma something like that. tablet, something like that. so how do we link those devices and link them to the internet can one good example -- to the internet. one good example is the galaxy camera. threera now built in with g and four g connectivity. you can instantly upload them to a website or social media.

bringing wireless connectivity to a camera. linking products like that, linking them to the internet, to each other is a big opportunity for us. you have you have been watching the communicators on c-span. we have been showing you short portions of interviews that we have done. if you would like to see the full discussions from this program or other interviews that we have done, go to our website, ators..org/communic [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> c-span, brought to you as a public service by your cable television provider. weingarten is our guest on newsmakers. here is a preview.